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[inaudible conversations] good afternoon thanks for coming down in this great to see you. and i am one of the total owed -- colors along with my husband and if you do have this sulfone on or a deviceone n to make an unwelcome sound pleased greatly silence thathavq
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also please come to the microphone if you have a question you're videotaping this also with c-span2 end it is helpful if they can hear the question and alsothe to not fall that your chairs for usually ask you to the we have other evens today. i think you have seen the book we have plenty of copies i hope you will buy it. and those who missed the coffee shop under motivation derek is a temporary coffee cart if you are desperately in need at any point please feel free to go downstairs to buy some coffee and tea and pastries.
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i just have to say it is a personal pleasure to introduce not only a terrific author but a friend and former colleague weme worked together at the state department undersecretary hillary clinton and the first time i met him i realized he was a force of nature that consult tellsou you how diplomacy has changed and to envision the way the internet social media could be used on behalf of foreign policy and i am complete the prehistoric i am sure those
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details are so he goes to the democratic report -- of condo in those that are suffering in the worst way but what about women with a cellphone that they could take pictures of the perpetrators and increased crime with the choice of simple technology? to get the weather and the of market reports but the couple of guys with one of talk in to go on and on.ly eighteen think if he had - - helped to craft his agenda and has advised the government leaders around
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the world on technology innovations strategy's and also is a distinguished fellow at johns hopkinst more t university. border to the point he puts all of his ideas on paper in a book to be as cool as i am but we both know robotic said genetics like the ninear state actors change and may live and work andd communicate so what is the real ramifications? and this is part of the work gets state also personally important how smart they were for political social good?
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this is what he poses in his book and i have to say thatr having watched him in action all of his energy and creativity in any innovative ideas will serve him well in this house and unfolds now into the future so please join me to welcome our author. [applause] >> this is my first reading the book came out on tuesday i am so excited to do it here this is absolutely the place i wanted to do theou first one and first of all, i hope you all by the industries of the future if you don't just buy something while you are here because
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bookstores are very rare one of the things that they do understand is digitization and picassos said it best every act of creation begins with an act of destruction so has spent difficult for those independent bookstores to make it they do things like these types of readings for free. by ab industries but another book will also. >> i want to read from the introduction and then talk about why a wrote the book then read another section we did serve together as diplomats but so please feel
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free to in is 3:00 a.m. negative key charleston'sco self virginia and just after refreshment year in college college, with well-offdoing fa during a fancy internship of commerce i if the charleston six and pound negative six didn't center it is worse than in july if you want the work to be beginning of the day or the end? i would wake up at 10:00 and eat breakfast work midnight trade:00 in the morning they
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goaded bed around 3:00. the other five were tough they were good guys but beaten down. one carried it in his bat -- back product a scraggly red head between one the ages theaters in their 40's and 50's and what shed have been the peak and that people drink way too much. the success with the efflorescent blue capitals wheno when poured on the concrete floor, the last wave of innovation and globalization produced winners and losers one group was investors and entrepreneurs congregating
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around inventions but there were more than 1 billion people into the middle-class because the low-cost labor was in a vintage once they became part of the global economy. the losers were in a high-cost labor reckitt and the skills cannot keep up with change to globalize the market's.in lar they were the losers because the job they could have gotten in a cool blame bush's job they could have gotten had moved to mexico or india. for these men to be a midnight janitor was not just a summer job like it was to me but one of the only jobs.
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growing up i thought life unless virginia was representative of life everywhere. but the phenomenon that was witnessing its made sense only as they traveled the world to see other regions rising as lester, jr. was falling. >> so my point of departure to write this book is like a public school kid working during the summers as a midnight janitor. but since my time working on as a janitor have been very fortunate. >> allow me to work for the secretary of state like word cat johns hopkins to advise
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the leaders around the world. i try not to forget the experience growing up in the community like guided that floundered rift globalization and i ask myself a question that said if the last 20 years were shaped in significant measure through the rise of the internet and large scale globalization what is next?f a the industry is the future is those who have done research about what is next. is a net optimistic book los to write about the future
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tends to be utopian the day, are written from the position. think the book is a littlet different that i consider myself a realistic idealist's that our lives tried to indescribable the world to come in realistic terms it is possible. so some of the with machine larry and robotics and i do believe that is the reality but the combination the of the mathematical break through which both had very
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complex items for robots and that may seem straightforward but that is difficult mathematically but the breakthroughs combined with cloud robotics 58 dia they do not have to have hundreds of thousands of dollars but it could be a low-cost lightweight the advice means that automation specifically can go from doing things that are manual entry pete and. >> canned the last way it one negative last week ing up, n will mocking it up the worst
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my father but to serve a country lawyer bet he mostly does real-estate closings that you sign for half an hour 30 times but it does require cognition but also a lot of reputation.hat have some of the jobs displaced largely rooted to give strength falkland to somebodies shoulders but is the kind the of work that my father did white caller often repetitive.the once the focus on is the
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commercialization economics. last billion dollar industry was created out of computer code the next disaster genetic code. we you're 15 years past the mapping of the human genome and finally at the point we are three years away from personalized men descend in a way that is unrecognizable that we get prescriptions in the past but president obamas made this his signature and initiative and now want to read a passage from the books t and lucas is the cash i bet you do pipe from negative impress entices you which urals to see but in cancer
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research now taking place in the life science lab.th and to speak with of men -- midwestern affability. sofas news of him and his dog cassell. the 30 year-old is to share his remarkable life. he works on the cutting the dais steadied leukemia in negative. even more remarkable coming he bottled is a cool cool, incidence that end i
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think that you could just by looking at the of blood smear there is somethinglo very satisfying to be in this position to diagnose just by taking care of patients but then to complete but a possible at this residency but they also saved his life against all of lines some survival rates are slim and dead double relapsed is not even exist. said developing for the third time no known
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treatment but his colleagues said the odds were against because they do anything to save their colleagues. something never done before the dna and rna from the cancer cells pet is from the skin samples as well to combine with the help he so soon leukemia cells. does dna becomes damaged over time or other environmental factors like cigarette smoke.ut teefour with cancer the mutated dna and rna, which generally work . .
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copying machine from the 1980s that takes up half the mailroom. the sequencing machines found the culprit and it turned out that one of the normal genes was producing large quantities of
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the protein that was ultimately spurring his cancerous growth. the genome sequencing can be a bad end end or even when they can pinpoint the affecting genetic mutation. in their case it was good news. the pharmaceutical giant had recently released a drug that could inhibit. it was intended for treating kidney cancer but because of the sequencing, that would be the first person.he was i within two weeks of taking the drug he was in remission. soon after he was in good shape to ensure the cancer wouldn't come back in a mutated form. form. four years later the cancer hasn't returned. he's had side effects and its
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mouth infections but as he makes clear it's a small price to payo terry at his doctor characterizes the prognosis meaning the eventual outcome is now unknown and the condition will remain monitor. he's lived as long as he has been to the intensive genetic sequencing. i don't have any doubt about that at all. the story is rare but it's the beginning of the genomics. it will someday be ordinary, someday soon. in the book as i described the promise and peril. it is to draw out some of the advances that are taking place in the world scientifically.
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there is the unintended consequences of some of the downsides of the commercialization for example with the knowledge that we will be able to acquire about who and what we are, the choices that will be available to us for example with the genetic selection we will soon know between four to eight weeks instead of just it's going to be a boy or girl, very soon we will know. he's probably going to be
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between 5-foot seven and five at nine and have a 12% chance of getting parkinson's, 9% chance of being an alcoholic. he's going to have this affinity in the back and with the new information it's going to be interesting to see the kind of human decisions that we make inn the face of this scientific information. so it is an ambitious book the industries of the future. instead of the 400 page book about genomics or debate data or 400 page book about robotics i try to take the use an keys ande topics and pull them aller together and in one place that is accessible and story driven though it does have data and research behind it. again it is an optimistic work and with that, what i would welcome is some questions on any topic related to this or myy
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service at the state department. all i would ask is if you code for the television cameras ask your question from the microphone here in the front can you tell us about how you got t go to 41 countries because the reason that's interesting as japan and south korea and many of these countries are doingh advanced research in the future industries. i would like to know how did you get that opportunity and what did you discover in some of these more advanced countries. >> while i was at the state department and the trouble to close to 196 countries on planet earth and my assistant did me a disservice and totaled up the
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travel and apparently come it is the equivalent of two round trips to the moon with a side trip to new zealand, over a million miles of travel. but, look what i saw was remarkable. you mentioned japan and south korea. and i write in particular a lot of those in robotics. japan for example in the same way it reinvented electronicsrs and cars in the past and i write here about how they are reimagining robotics and it said it could interesting how they are coming out of asia. a lot of it has to do with culture.o do in in the united states and western culture, we have sort of deeply ingrained biases against bringing things to life that perhaps ought not be brought to
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life from waxwings to frankenstein. eastern cultures are not burdened with that mythology and in japan for example where 80% of the population practices, there's a beliethere is a beliem that all objects have souls so it's interesting as there are inventions and robotics and innovations taking place that we would have more of a headwind in the united states. so one of the examples i writerv about art caregiving robots. japan has the oldest citizens on a per capita basis and they are growing older and because of the relatively small number of restrictive immigration practices there are not enough t young japanese people to take care of the grandparents as they age and become feeble so one of the stories i tell is about
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toyota and honda creating robots that do things like lift up the. aging parents can play the violin, get food, it'sn. remarkable. on the opposite end of the spectrum at least stereotypically is a lot of what i saw in sub-saharan africa. a lot of people think of it as a development of conflict that as you will read i take it wildly optimistic view of most of sub-saharan africa from a purely economic standpoint over the next ten years. since it's benefited from internet connectivity for the last five or six years, as we see happening in much of africa now as communities that were historically very isolated economically that are now connecting to the global markets in ways that will previously be unimaginable so there's a lot of
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content here about africa.i'm te >> i'm with buchanan group strategic communications and i'm supposed to say hello. so, i have two questions.talk first do you talk about the injection of ethics because there's a lot of discussion about ethical considerations anh second, do you talk about the possibility of some of these technologies being weaponize inn the future? >> the answer to both questionst is yes. one of the things that's going to create pushback from my friends in silicon valley as i do insist on talking about some of the ethical questions that have to be asked and answered because of the development of the technologies. i spend a lot of time in silicon valley and there is a
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libertarian egos that says the upward march of technology and t science ought not to benology a scrutinized by anything other than other scientists and technologists and i think thati is a really fast view of things so in nearly every chapter, andp it's why it's the dystopian but i try to examine what are the upside and what are the downsides. so the same way in which genomics will add years of life as we get personalized medicine and we are able to fight cancero early in stage one a the stage s opposed to three and four because we are able to get more genetic information. so i say okay but if the bees are not brought to term because they don't match up to a parents ideal? so it's important to have both
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eyes open. in terms of the weaponization of these things there's a chapterhl of the cybersecurity and i believe it is the most significant development since the weaponization of the fissile material difference being creating a nuclear weapon requires access to the scarce talent where there is a lower barrier to entry. >> i want to start with a short personal note. thank you for writing this book and for being such a great storyteller. your italian roots as a storyteller, i'm enjoying a lot
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of the buck and my question you mentioned in the introduction of your book so i wanted to know if you have any remark. >> in the last stage of globalization we were able to make sweeping statements. asia is going to do this coming europe is going to do that, south america is going to do this. it's in the next stage of globalization that we will see fragmentation so instead of saying south america is going to go up, down or sideways, i think that we are going to see different countries within the south america doing exceedingly well and different countrieste stagnate and others do poorly. chile is one of the ones i'm the most optimistic. so it's the pacific states in south america. chile and colombia are best positioned for the next ten years and it's because in many respects what they've done is thrown off a lot of the neo- market gets thrown off brazil and other states and they
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haven't tried to create a hybrid social capitalist model. they pivoted part of the syste systems. >> i wondered in your book if you made any mention of space technology and where that's going. >> i focus a little bit more on the drones. they rode space technology will change more in ten years than it has been 40 to 50 years. a lot of people have chosen to make this the next great
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frontier. the best example of that because others like planet lab and others thinking outside the box on the aerospace technology. there's another one called vapoi loop out there right nowu can ca thinking about guess you could call the aerospace technology that help to transport people and goods in a way that sounds straight out of science fictionn commercialization and turning the idea into a product takes a. lot longer. my na >> i was wondering what you see about the future of work is a distributed mechanism at
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critical. >> there is no more important question right now being asked on the hot topics is the future of the work as we see the nature of the work changing as it goes from being dominantly employer-based to project-based so as we see these wild labor patterns among the millennial's i'm 44-years-old and they are working with different work patterns so there's the money markets and trust. as we increasingly developed marketplaces, digital marketplaces for labor it's
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going to dramatically change the future of work. we have seen in the so-called sharing economy because nobody's sharing anything. it's the sharing economy but don't forget your credit card. we see the possibility of using the applications to distribute the labor and leaves and goods in ways that were not previously possible. so that which has been done is going to be done with new forms of labor and i think it's going to have significant impacts. again as is the case i write about.me >> i think the balance in the
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currencies is one of the variables. yes sir. >> i'm happy to be here. i started following you not that long ago when i saw the book wae coming. company currently i have a consultinghe company based here in. but high-tech companies, big business and outsourcing, china etc.. for the fourth resolution, and do you think that's going to increase even more, and i mean you mentioned sub-saharan that protect the example. we all have cell phones now. do you think companies are going to shift these highly skilled and very high-paying jobs from
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traditionally easter northwestern countries like the u.s. or europe and spend less money to train these people to do the same job and get the same productivity for an even greater value but less money than paying somebody here?ery optimi >> i'm glad you asked that question because i get to give an optimistic answer about it. one of the stories i tell him this book is about a company that goes into places and sub-saharan africa where there's a lot of people like nairobi kenya for places with lots of population that benefited in recent years from connectivity into the thesis is that if you identify sort of the top 1% of
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talent in these places and if you train them, they could be good enough to work for google. because of conductivity, they don't have to leave they goes or nairobi so they have essentially built a marketplace out of that where they are taking these spectacularly brilliant young nigerians and kenyans and they are putting them through the toughest kind of technology training and they then createpl essentially a marketplace where they can go work for google. what that means is the capitalist flowing to sub-saharan africa and you are able to build human capital in the countries that is going to be a lasting so this is a case
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where i am wildly optimistic. >> is there anybody else out there doing that right now? >> it's the beginning of a larger trend we will read about in the book. i'm going to answer the questions. i've only got six or seven more minutes, so i'm going to answer quickly.ink th >> i happen to think the mosts important thing that's going to change our world is business structure. we own the data and we have created essentially a hybrid of cooperatives that use the capitalist dynamics like the way words and investment, entrepreneurship, accumulation of capital to build the cooperative model and i tried to
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launch it in boston between mit and harvard and got nowhere until i went to the midwest. they are a big thing in the midwest and the reception wasane exactly 100% different. i want an idea of what you saw and found. you have been around the world in a lot of countries where they are vitally important. i want to get an idea of what your evaluation of the acceptance and possibilities of that model is in those countries. in the >> the thesis in the book is that land was the role material of the agricultural age. i hear was the role material in the industrial age and the data is of the information age. he who controlled the land or earned the land and agricultural age of the political and economic power. he who owns the factory thenho controlled access to the natural
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resources in the industrial age and had the political and economic power. he or she who owns the data control of the data in the information age and have the political and economic power. so the co-op model can be viable anywhere so long as what you are able to do is build a business models where you are able to control data and build models around controlling the data. >> so with silicon valley has done for us is organized. we can do that alternatively were by ourselves using the capital restraints. >> the thesis is the big data instead of having to be domiciled in the silicon valley platform it will be increasingly commoditized. >> two more questions.yizes. >> my question is a political question. you work for hillary clinton. what is your impression?s in a h
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i hope she's in a hotel room. with c-span on and listening. i think given what i've studied at the industries of the future i think it is pretty clear that we need a competent and intelligent person who understands and is passionate about the well-being of parts of the working class who are going to be stretched and streamed by the development in theseand industries, and i think she is perfectly suited to do it not just because she cares. i think bernie sanders cares about the working middle class and marco rubio cares about the working middle class but as a practical matter, you have to be able to come up with policies sp that somehow position people to be able to compete and succeed in having worked at the elbow for four years in muscatineour r
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worked for far longer she had that kind othe kind of disciplid of intellectual rigor to unpack the complexity in these industries independent figure out what public policies need to flowie from it. >> i use left very often and what i find depressing is often the guy that's driving is very l highly qualified but because of the operational what you are talking about how do you get people educated so they don't become the janitors, they becomt citizens in this new. >> i thought about that in the last chapter of the book. [laughter] it's cold the most important job
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you'll ever have.. the most important job you'll ever have is being a parent. p i wouldn't prepare to be a parenting guru and my children two of whom are here today woul. remind the. that's what i do is take the places and perspectives of the people from the book and i ask them the same questions what are the skills and attributes to kids need to make it in the economy and there is a full treatment of that. of course that doesn't relate to today's driver. for today's driver for people that are in the workforce to do needs to be retooled, the observation is humans are not as to update software. we are not. and the market forces can be ruthless. in the face of the ruthless market forces, we have to have similarly ruthless public
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policies that pivot people to what will be very substantial areas of job creation and wealth creation in the future which you can read about in the industries of the future. thank you all. if you have additional questions please ask them if you come up for the book signing now. i want to thank you again and remind you all buy an ibook but also by another book while you are here. thank you. ' the
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most people in america have never really been on a farm. they go to the county fair but they don't know what it is to be a farmer which is not a romance. so there is a kind of romantic view of agriculture fisheye find exasperating because it makes it impossible to think about agriculture clearly. >> fox news anchor megan kelly talks about her life and career as a journalist in her book settle for more. she spoke with presenter. at 5:15 p.m., they discuss their book a torch kept lit which
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>> steven johnson's book wonderland of the history of entertainment and has driven scientific and technological progress. we talked to the author of this year's miami book fair. >> joining us here on our booktv set is offered steven johnson. before we get into the most recent book, you've are listeninlistening pretty intento what james click had to say.sc >> athis was the first book that got me thinking i couldd potentially be a science

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