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i was surprised to find out he was extremely gracious, extremely welcoming, wanted to have the interview, seemed genuinely glad to see us, that cnn was there to do the interview and there was a lot of give-and-take in the interview and a lot of pushing back but it was an interesting interview to do, the night he was in the republican debate so on one hand, for me having covered democrats, not having a ton of exposure on that level to donald
trump going in and seeing as far as the reporter experience, pretty easy. >> no question, pretty classic republicans and democrats for that matter to go after the media. it happens every time. he took us to a new level, when we got into this race, i interviewed him the day he announced his running which looking back, i certainly at the time did not think we would end up here, after he gave -- he and milani aa talked about immigrants, we went to his office in trump tower and it was a similar experience. let me show you around, like one of shack's shoes in his office,
wanted to show that off. he had sought -- scott walker, he won his reelection, sign it and put it in a frame. it says a lot about how trump himself understands the way the media landscape works. going forward, how does that continue, to approach or urging him to approach the media in a different way. twitter and the fact he can interact directly, and in the white house briefing should and often resistance to putting a presidential address on the air
in prime time at 9:00, pretty lucrative and put up, i doubt somehow if trump wants to do that, we will see. >> in the summer of 2015, want to talk to donald trump, we call you in ten minutes. to realize we have interviewed the incoming president of the united states, it is an incredible thing. that happened with hillary clinton but donald trump was famous for calling into control rooms, executive directors and nbc itself, if you want to talk about that experience, you never get a phone call from donald
trump complaining about the press or something. >> i have not gotten those phone calls and not sure those phone calls exist. i would like to think it didn't change how we approached interviewing donald trump on meet the press but he has people's phone numbers and uses his phone and he will call the number he wants and i am going to leave that at that. >> one other note i wanted to make, we are all still human. especially being women, we have our own events we are dealing with. all four of us have either gotten engaged or married in the last year and a half or so. i hope you will say something about what it is like to be so busy as we have been, while having a personal life.
>> personal life? what is that? >> we try on wedding dresses. >> we did. we were shooting part of our girls on the bus series. getting engaged, getting married in a few weeks. i had a bizarre experience which is pretty normal until may and my mom died unexpectedly in the middle of the campaign. the primaries were wrapping up, we were close to the california primary where the family lives but for everyone who covers the campaign, it is all about the campaign, not what would define it. all of a sudden this thing happened that made me realize. the campaign in the end from my
year was a supporting role. my year has been very different than people who had the year defined by their campaign. in may i was actually -- i would have the normalcy of covering campaign events because they were in california. otherwise i would have been off the trail for a month so i go to a campaign event in california, spend the night to spend time with my dad and definitely had some time off which was weird at a time when everyone was working but also put into perspective as we go through this experience. a lot of people have different careers, periods of time where it is so intense. this year brought that home, talking about crying, don't even
care, give how many places, woken up reporters crying in my hotel room, cried in public on the convention floor, had a weird year. in that regard, people didn't know what was going on. >> that is why, there is a real life outside what we do. what we do is important but putting things in perspective is good to keep in mind. we run out of time, i will sit here forever for cocktails but we really appreciate it. [applause]
>> i am going -- we introduce and a polymer for the next conversation. >> thank you. back on stage here with kellyanne conway. [applause] >> a few housekeeping notes. online hashtag women will if you are tweeting about the event this morning, we will keep this conversation, hardly need an introduction to this crowd who knows you but kellyanne conway is president and ceo of the polling company, on the cable news circuit and gained notoriety as the first woman campaign manager. let's jump in, talking backstage a little bit about this being a
historic campaign. one thing we were talking about is the country is not women for a woman president or a hillary clinton issue? >> thanks for having me. we looked at that question early on. i've studied women in politics for decades and as a republican consultant i find myself with candidates running against a female on the democratic side and in recent years we had more occasion to work for a female candidate which has been really nice. in this case the answer is very clear. the question for voters we thought early on was not would you vote for a woman but would you vote for that woman? for most voters it was not hypothetical, that came with many advantages. look at the end of her campaign, she was able to campaign with a
popular sitting president much more popular than she is, former president who happens to be her husband campaigning with her. that is pretty good and she had a resume, typical dc resume, not animating to all voters but a very respectable resume as first lady of the united states, first lady of arkansas, senator from new york, secretary of state and two time presidential candidate. we are breathing rarefied air when that is your resume and hillary in many ways is an atypical woman in politics because she was able to ascend to so many levels and so many positions and deserves respect for having done so. at the same time it was a negative part of hillary clinton. the never-ending scandal of the
clintons that bothered many voters, butted heads with 70% plus of americans who wanted change, in new and different directions. she found herself as somebody who needed to overcome, never truly did those barriers, everybody's polling data with strong majorities of americans saying they did not trust her or find her to be honest and trustworthy. they don't think she is honest. it is really big and that mattered to voters. women in politics. but also very significant to hillary clinton when i look at female candidates, all things being equal. the dynamics of the campaign.
that didn't apply beer. and we will see in down ballot races. this was an ethical scandal and people see women as not making backroom deals. and nepotism and special interests. third for female candidates, whatever candidates held office, with consensus builders and excellent negotiators, interested in what the other side of the aisle believes. she wasn't necessarily seen that way fairly or unfairly by broad swath of the electorate to see her as more combative or partisan, something she said, that is the nature of politics today including the presidential level but i also saw early on she was not going to benefit him
those attributes that are worth a point or two or three. >> one of these things, hillary clinton number 60% of women in the cabinet appointing them. donald trump has done that in terms of appointing lynn chow, nikki haley, how important is it that he had women in the most powerful positions? >> donald trump has always had women in powerful positions. that is true in his corporation, his campaign, always elevated women, i know the women in the trump corporation. let the record reflect donald trump elevated the first female in republican presidential candidates be at successfully, in the campaign he stewarded.
we were sitting in a meeting, he looked at me, 5 or 6 of us, are you the first woman to run a presidential campaign? the guys in the room said republican women, i think about susan estrich, and respect him enormously, and i said on the first republican -- this was probably two weeks after. never said i won't do well among women or really want this to be cool and do. it was he had seen me on the job, he asked me if i could run and so, promoted for merit, bringing to bear extra special characteristics. >> talk about that a little bit.
running anything of this scale before. you took the job differently, a lot of scandal, how did you approach the job? >> very patiently and methodically. i am a data person. i can't draw or decorate anything. i am all math and science. i am a data person, look at data and think about how to make the data work within the campaign structure and whatever is helpful to me, upholsterer analyst, pollsters today and politics today putting everybody in boxes, you are a woman, you are african-american, who we are demographically, those are immutable characteristics,
gender and age, the year you were born never will. and that affects the circumstance. a deeper look than that which a fantastic team small but scrappy and entrepreneurial and resourceful and victorious. instead of putting people who might work with consumer america, the idea that i don't look at people as voters, if you feel you were affected negatively by the affordable care act, does it matter what your immutable characteristic was to vote on that? may be my management style is completely different, i ended up being mother hen to a lot of
campaign staffers was i look at the birthdays, that aspect of it, donald trump has diminished very comfortable and familiar with having women in leadership positions was the other thing that helps is i don't sugarcoat anything, very deferential and respectful. i told them from the beginning i am not your peer, won't call you by your first name. at the same time i think it helps me deliver the good, the bad and the ugly, it helped a great deal to be very honest and candid and respected in return by not sugarcoating things, being tough or what -- with a big smile. >> a lot of speculation what role you will play in the white house, the west wing, the latest
superstructure. it is not in most job descriptions. >> my children are 12, 8 and 7 which is bad idea, bad idea, bad idea. i had this conversation. the semester abroad. i went from that -- from greece to italy. i went home last night, on the road one night a week and the adult absorbing community time and lack of sleep which everyone can relate to. that is what we do and who we are. to help the sixth-grade math homework, to make sure that was there. i used to laugh at the motion of quality time. i am all in and absolutely believe it but they have to come
first and in terms of going to the west wing, i will do whatever the president-elect and vice president-elect, they believe are the best seats for them. i know the relationship will be the same so i am not worried about it, somebody said that recently, i fully support the administration and think they will do a lot of great things. the excuse of divided government is over, they have state legislature, majority of governors and that is exciting which the lesson also is the opportunities out there for women increasingly in politics and public policy and government affairs in washington, we have to make choices. there are limits, when discussing my role with other senior campaign folks, you have four kids, there is nothing that
comes after the bus that makes sense to me. eat cheerios or brush their teeth? i do politely mention the question is not would you take the job in the white house, the question is would you want your wife to? and would you want the mother of your children -- they wouldn't want their wife to take that job so it is all good. very cutting. >> in terms of that there are challenges, time management and being with your family, a lot of challenge did not have mothers in the white house. >> mothers and unmarried women and married women are all welcome in the trump white house and he made that clear to me, nothing but gracious and a gentleman and a wonderful mentor and boss to me and other women.
that would be my personal choice. a friends made it a fascinating suggestion to me, that maybe -- he will see me on morning shows by 2:00, it is not a full day, the white house, maybe i can go home and see the kids and angle back, that will work. suggesting maybe i can help american women in terms of feeling less guilty about balancing life and career and skypeing or faithtimeing, i always felt it was a family-friendly workplace at the trump campaign that i went out many years ago, i am a lawyer, married to a lawyer, when i was
a lawyer i looked around at the female partners many years ago, they were lovely and had different life circumstances in that wanted position but none of them had children. for all kinds of reasons. the most important thing, and the decision, every woman should be respected for making her choice. and there would have been more kind coverage. and the wrong party to have done fat, the wrong candidate. it referred to me as political.
it happens a lot with female journalists. i saw that with hillary clinton and sarah palin in 2008. and to have the supports on their way there. >> talking about mike pence and long-term relationship which and what role he is playing or talking chairman brady and directing phone calls and taxes and healthcare. what do you think, knowing him so well, his signature issue, the thing that will focus his energy? >> the vice president-elect is a
fascinating man. start early on in donald trump, the way mike pence has been it is easy to recognize they saw nothing like it and their race is running. he has an opportunity, very active and successful vice president because he spent 12 years in congress and we 10 years in the foreign affairs committee, number 3 in the house, republican conference in the face of the party before he left to run for governor four years ago and all the relationships with past colleagues and sitting members and has the trust of the president to execute on the legislative agenda, the 100 day plan, you can agree or disagree, read and see it which is good for everyone in the democracy, it is very solution based and transparent so the vice president mike pence will be tasked with executing different
pieces of that and he has been on capitol hill doing that head of the transition, he is interfacing personally with the cabinet. >> he is not going to be the energy -- >> even their 100 day plan includes energy and infrastructure and healthcare, childcare and elder care, taxes and spending and regulations, manufacturing. he will be tasked with any number -- he has been incredibly supportive, he and his wife karen are good match, one of the untold stories is how much it mattered to a campaign that deliberately went after the blue wall in the midwest, very deliberately to have the governor of indiana bring manufacturing jobs back, cut the unemployment rate in half, had increased charter, helped to
have somebody in that region. this is great to have somebody. >> one of the big issues of the campaign have been swirling a lot, pizzagate, guns charged a couple days ago. when is enough enough to give does donald trump have to stand up and say something about this? >> he asked general flynn is no longer part of the transition and apart that i will tell you is donald trump's campaign manager and someone who loves democracy and the freedom of this country, the false move was corrosive through the campaign which is different from fake. your paper or many others return on a cable station and here story after story, the path is
closed, the race is over, donald trump will bring down the entire house and senate with him, he will -- hillary clinton is not mentioning his name anymore, the race is over. it is harmful and false. >> the rnc two days before the election, giving off the record briefings about how it wasn't their fault. >> i am well aware. >> not coming out of the ether. >> in michigan. in any event, i was very public about what our numbers showed, lots of briefings, on tv every day, protecting core 4, florida, ohio and iowa, isn't easy, and only one of those had the republican infrastructure for him in terms of elected
officials and everyone, nevada, new hampshire and maine too. for all the talk about popular risk, donald trump named four times, hundreds of thousands of dollars to get one delegate, that is how you win. all the graphics i saw, 270 were not the road to the popular vote so there is that and we were able to have additional risks i would talk about -- and outside philadelphia. they kept sending trump and pens to pennsylvania and tiffany trump and milania trump and a team on the ground in pennsylvania and michigan, wisconsin, we were out there showing everybody how we would win but there was a conclusion in the search for evidence and
for americans who rely on complete fair coverage, did voters a disservice. look at these undergraduates who weren't prepared in a divided country that maybe the other one of the two candidates in a divided country could possibly win. >> in terms of the divided country we put out a poll with morning consult, questions about donald trump's deal with carrier, do you support it or not and everyone in washington, insiders in the hill and congress are opposed to this kind of policy but it is popular in the country. to you think donald trump will be like ronald reagan and go to the public and sway public opinion on this or is there an overall divide happening with washington elite and people in the country? >> i saw that paul and i saw how does this change your opinion of
donald trump, i saw 74% of republicans, 40% of democrats, 50% of independents said it made him more favorable, americans like progress and the idea of things getting done before you are inaugurated as the president-elect, you make good on your campaign promises so you elevated the whole idea of bringing jobs back to the country from mexico or china or preventing them from leaving in the first place in the moment you get the opportunity to execute on that you are there, not like i got to wait or have a commission and there are 1100 employees or so who benefited from that. americans like progress. a lot of great ideas go to capitol hill to die, i'm not surprised there is natural resistance there but the one thing i promise you, two things i promise about president trump, one, he is going to try anyway
to execute on these promises very quickly, 2, to answer your question is somebody who on the campaign consistently took his message directly to the people and tried to cut through the noise or silence or whatever the case was. another thing that was totally pooh-pooh toed by the press, anybody can fill in amphitheater. tim kane was getting 15, 20, 200 people, like a second wedding where i come from and this guy, trump is packing in thousands and thousands of people and it mattered from enthusiasm and positive local coverage you didn't see because of that county. donald trump that you see taking his case directly to the people is the donald trump you will see as president, he definitely always cared what the public
thinks, ronald reagan's pollster many years ago taught me something that a young age i always which is president reagan used paul's not to find out what he believed the which way to go. he used paul's to make sure the message he intended to convey. and why is he doing this? even though he explained it, hasn't reached you where you live literally, the way you like to receive information, he wantss to make sure the public, there is public opinion, public knowledge and being transparent. >> at these eventss we pull back the layer a little bit, how you got to the position you are in talking backstage, when you grew up, your grandma lives with you, your sisters. >> south jersey version of the
golden girls, the house goes and everything. >> how does that impact you in terms of your role models, what lessons do you take from growing into this role? >> it is the gift that keeps on giving, i was raised in an unconventional household, the fourth sister was married close by. my father left when i was very young. the impact it had on me long-term is to be grateful. have a grateful heart because it is so easy to complain about everything today. i catch myself doing that too often. i remind myself of all the blessings and gifts and opportunities. i think about my mom as a single mom in the 1970s and i am astonished how she did that. i love my husband, tell him on
his worst day, you have a drivers license, he can foresee real in a ball even on his first day and he is pretty great otherwise. hats off to them but i grew up in a house that was half irish, half italian, labor union, no women in college, catholic, everything points to the democratic party but we never had a single political conversation i can recall. everything was faith and family, grew up in a family of small business owners where you worked hard, gave, didn't take. the negative side all that is i spent a lot of my life being a self-denying person and catch myself being that now too, we don't go for or ask what we think we deserve and when i was first starting out many years ago i was on cnn as a political analyst 20 years ago, i got a call from the polling company,
had a nice company for 21 years, very young and somebody from the speaker, and the gentleman said there is this industry group, democratic pollster, come and speak on september 28th at the mayflower hotel, you will speak 20 minutes and take questions, welcome to come for lunch or stay for the conference, you work with an agent. i asked my mom what she thinks, what is your speaking fee? i froze because i knew no matter what i said it would be a self-denying girl in a house of women and the giver, not the taker. it wouldn't be his fault, he asked me, what is your worth, what is your speaking fee? i really panicked.
i took a look at the mayflower hotel outside the office window where the speech would be, i can walk half a block, took a line out of when harry met sally, i will have what he is having, true story, she said what? i said as mark and i are going to do the same thing i will just -- 1996, mark requested $3500. i said that will be fine and hug up the phone and fell to the floor, so exciting. >> it is a privilege, i can't wait to hear mark. why not give mark my speaking fee too? you need to learn to navigate both ways. on balance i think it is a great time to be a woman in america. the product of our choices, not
just circumstances, very independent thinkers. it took a special time. >> crowd source this question that i ask a lot of people, stayed with you one on one. what is the thing of this election people wanted to hear, understand? one of the most controversial was access hollywood video coming out with donald trump when that happens. it was the low point of the campaign. what was the first thing you did? >> first thing we did was tell him about it. along with a couple other people. anyway, without getting into that, he apologized to everyone. it was a heartfelt apology he wrote and put out and people had to dissect it? he meant it. or he wouldn't have said it. that is the thing about donald
trump. two days later was the second state. a couple lessons to learn from that, as a pollster, the difference between what offends you and what affects you, way too much credence given if not expectation given to people who are going to vote according to that tape or this statement or this false accuser or this, had you asked me, i repeated this many times. had you asked me to write 50 people close to me, even if they were all women, you ask need to write 50 or 75 men and women close to me in business, in life and i had to mark down whether they would be dealbreaker, not a dealbreaker, i would conclude a fail, no rhyme or reason to how people reacted. people reacted differently to that, you saw across the country
that people made their opinions, polls went down. >> how quickly did you go to the polls? >> consistently in the field, no national polls, no point to it which i didn't think there was a point to national polls even ones we were winning because it was 270, not the popular vote so we were in the 12 or 14 states we were trying to compete. you saw everybody's polls, we took a hit in the polls. people who wanted him to drop out wanted him to drop out and not run by and large. he is someone who took his message directly to the people, back on the campaign trail and did something politicians and people, corporate executives often don't do, took response ability and apologized. you don't always see that with people. people asked what i thought you my reaction was a combination of
gracious gentleman. i have never seen, witnessed or heard anything from younger staffers otherwise and felt very beholden, people that the campaign, this is their first foray into politics. some took a semester off, delayed a better paying job because they believed in this and when to see it through. >> host: what are you going to do next? >> guest: this is outsize superstructure, close advisor to president obama stayed outside, david axelrod switched so it is a matter of sequence but in the short term, surroundsound superstructure, political operation that you need somebody with the president's trust, a total mystery so don't ask that.
somebody who graduates capitol hill so we can play offense when it comes to supporting his nominees for the cabinet or the supreme court or federal judiciary, also to make sure we get the message out to people about how they will be directly impacted by infrastructure investments for the jobs created of between 10 years or how we are going to protect 20 million people who rely on the affordable care act, millions of others feel they have gotten the role and their opinions too high and choice and access and quality are diminished. that is an important -- >> the whisper. >> a great relationship with the president, totally supportive of what they are trying to do. i could tell by the reception i
got when it comes to him, he is our president, it is a very non-political house where they vote, i am sure it would've been democratic and i was always raised to respect the office of the presidency and its current occupant and i think i have done that over the course of my adult life but i will go with president obama on this where he has been incredibly supportive and gracious, in wanting a peaceful transfer of power in our great democracy and giving it a chance, we need to come together as americans and recognize this is the decision those who voted, this is the president at a fraud time in our country where something could go one way or another and it would be fabulous to have more support among the population. what donald trump said
november 9th, absolutely true. he said i'm going to be the president for all americans, not just those who voted for me, i will be the president of those who did not support me and there were a few of you. he is aware of that. we are a divided country. and aware that he has put forth proposals that some folks embracing wholesale, at the same time i am anxious to see what happens, to have people support. >> coming down here today. we will turn to the fantastic table ambassadors, conversations around the table, and after that the marketplace, take part and enjoy and we will be back with
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