tv Governor Kasich on GOP Health Care Bill Sometimes My Party Asks Too Much CSPAN June 27, 2017 9:18pm-9:59pm EDT
thank you. republican governor of ohio and the democratic governor john hagan latehicken lippard talkedo reporters about their opposition to the healthcare wall replacement bill in its current form. they called on republicans and democrats to work together to craft a new bill. the remarks came before the
come right up here. we went to the leadership activities a few years ago and john is an entrepreneur and a commonsense guy. i like him from the time i met him and we have been able to get together to do something here and that is to try to create a health care bill that will make sure it is affordable, sustainable and people can keep their coverage and that can lead us to transition to something that would allow us to control healthcare costs you can't have them going through the roof. the cbo data and analysis yesterday. i'm not just thinking about the impact on ohio wireline governor because i'm only there for 18 more months but i'm thinking about the overall impact and the
long-term impact and there are a number of things, three points s in particular that have me deeply concerned. number one is the loss of coverage for millions of americans and who would lose this coverage, the chronically ill i believe these are people that need to have coverage and one thing we need to have about medicaid expansion is when people get on that the it via rn it for about 18 non- us. they try to get a job and some of them have problems i don't know how many of you are aware of the problems that are connected to drug abuse and how hard it is for somebody to get clean and stay clean at the same issue is with the mentally ill who need a constant treatment if they suffer from severe illnesses and of course the chronically ill and need to be covered as well. if you don't have a system that does that, you have a problem so
you have a loss of coverage of millions of people and the funding they are putting in as a whole is even less. it wasn't adequate. we may have been able to struggle through with it if we had a flexibility including the ability to exclude pharmaceutical companies from being able to put high-priced drugs on the formulary tha but e were not given a flexibility than they reduced the amount in the budget. on the exchange side one thing that has been shocking to me is there's not enough funding over there as well so here you have a situation with the house that appears, and we don't have half of the analysis but it has more money for the tax credits to support those on the exchange.
the problem is have those tax credits not been big enough to get primary care, the deductibles would be sky high. these three things that are fundamentally where the resources pull short would leave people in a difficult situation. i want everybody in the country to put themselves in the shoes of people who are trying to better their lives. if you don't have good healthcare, if you are sick you can't work. it is unlikely you will be able to work. what we are trying to do is have a system that encourages people to work and improve their lives and health their families and i think the bill is inadequate. i've had a number of conversations in the last 24 hours of people calling in and here's what i would suggest. today, i would call on
democratic senators to hold a press conference and state that they are willing to sit and work to constructively engage with republicans in coming up with a sustainable solution, something that can be sustained over a period of years, a sustainable solution that can make right the situation and improve the bill even if they have to start over again that's fine. there are elements they can keep some of the democratic senators should stand and challenge the republicans to negotiate with them. if they don't want to participate that way, shame on them if they are playing party over what's good for the nation but i think if both parties can get together i have little doubt in my mind they can come up with a workable solution and we have seen it with contentious issues whether it is a civil rights, whether it's the negotiations between tip o'neill and ronald reagan on social security or
negotiations i was involved in on balancing the federal budget in the clinton administration. it's on insurance at the same time beginning the discussion about what we can do for the rising cost of health care. this can be done and should be done not in a partisan way that a bipartisan way. that is the weight you can do this it isn't good enough to just shove it in the closet somewhere because there are challenges in this bill. finally, no one should think that i have any joy in being able to work against the leadership of my own party and this legislation. but maybe jfk said it best. sometimes my party asks too much. in the course of being able to solve the problems any time i will deviate from what i'm saying now people will be upset
with me like when i said i don't oppose a gradual phaseout of the enhanced medicaid expansion people got all worked up. i love the way he thinks it the way he does his job as governor. isn't it great to realize republicans and democrats can stand on the same podium on a very tough issue and get along this is the way it used to be. we can get this done. i can't express how they've been working on this for a long time
and the notion that the senate is going to do a bill in a short amount of time is a bad joke. we've been calling this the own health care bill just because there is no improvement. it takes an amount of courage and the others who had serious conversations about these bills, that courage this isn't a political decision, it is a moral issue. i have looked at some of the numbers colorado would see with
188,000 people in colorado. more than half of them would be in rural parts of the state. that is the place it's harder to get more medical coverage as it is. there's 50,000 people right now through the private exchanges by not giving them stability we are going to end up cutting coverage, and again it is not improving anything. at a certain point if it went through as it is, you would have a level of 100,000 deaths over the next ten years to allocate resources you don't have the coverage and ultimately, the governor and i are not going to agree on everything and we had to spend a lot of work realizing how to get to that place that we agreed we have the rise in
health care at all levels and certainly in terms of the private exchanges and medicaid we have to make sure we do not roll back coverage. that is a in in moral. there is $230 billion for the highest earners and people that have a large amount. i talked to a couple dozen of them and asked does it matter when you're making $2 million a year or a friend who he and his wife make 300,000 would save several thousand, they don't care. it's not something they are asking for. every single high earner wealthy individual in the country there will be less than 4 million people that receive these tax benefits. most of them are not asking for
it so why are we making this cut in the services we offer to the public same thing with insurance companies. they are all against the bill. i hope that we are able to take this bill and put it aside and start over and get -- i would be proud to work with republican and democratic senators and we worked across party lines every time. somehow the virus that's in washington just hasn't gotten to the ecosystem yet but it's
certainly looking around the margins. it probably takes six or eight months to realize what a good book would look like and how we get there. >> [inaudible conversations] i think the politics of today's politics and people we cover in my state 700,000 people who are drug addicted and mentally ill and chronically ill. they don't have much
disagreement. there may be some philosophical kind of textbook this agreement, but when you sit in a room with people and say should we strip coverage from someone that is mentally ill, i've never heard anybody say yes. we've heard about the drug problem in the country and we knonever takes as much as four r five times sometimes for people to be able to escape their addiction and sometimes they don't. the same is true with the chronically ill should they be in the emergency room driving up the cost or should we get them some primary care. i've never had anybody argue that with me so if they want to repeal it my sense was expansion should have gone up to 100% of poverty and we could have taken them and put them on the exchange as it is adequately
funded but under this bill it is not. his campaign promises and all that's a. by china to make promises i can't keep it if i make one that i think does not measure up i'm a big enough person to say i'm looking at it in a different way to. but i don't think it made sense in america today and even though we are talking about the poor overtime, these kind of actions will impact the middle class. we want people to have a bigger income who can join the middle class where they are on the edges of the middle class and could be hurt if they are not funded appropriately. i'm going to say one final thing. i am a conservative. i balanced our budgets than any of the people that are criticizing.
i am with teddy roosevelt i'm not sitting on the outside writing a paper somewhere so to me everybody should have a chance and what does conservatism means it means that everybody should have an opportunity to realize their hopes and dreams and without adequate health care is virtually impossible and i sure wouldn't want any of these folks that are so highly critical to find themselves in a position where it could affect their family. one last thing, i went to a newspaper into somebody sits next to me. the paper has been critical of the a loalot of thethe a lot ofe stuff. a lady next to me said can i speak to you after the meeting and she whispered after everybody left the room. thank god you expanded medicaid
because if you haven't, my cousin would have died. it made me kind of shocked and almost knocked me off my chair. i think there are things we here in politics and things that go on, but the reality of the matter is we better pay attention to people many of whom feel very disenfranchised in this country, and if that doesn't lead to a healthy america not just a healthy person. >> [inaudible] there is no resources. john spoke eloquently about the fact what you've done is given a lot of money to people that are already wealthy and denied the resources to run the program. there is no resources here so they have to put everything back.
i talk about a seven-year phaseout that would give a lot of flexibility. i think john and i can agree or disagree whether you need to go to 13841 trick and i would rather get more people into the exchange. the deductibles are so high they have to sell their home if they even have one there's ways to do this. we submitted plans and letters and we can get this done i have no doubt about it. there's the political promises and then ultimately, we have to deal with the problem of rising health-care costs anhealth carea lot of thoughts about that. one final thing. every governor would like to have the leverage on the pharmaceutical firm if they have high prices for drugs we don't
have to include them in the formulary. the minute we have that, we will get better prices but it doesn't seem anybody wants to do that. we just want to be in the position we can have some leverage and a good negotiation and end up with somebody. he certainly is looking at it very seriously if he understands the importance i talk to him a couple of months ago he was very focused on trying to figure out a way to make sure it doesn't get pulled back so i had to call into them now and my hope is that he is someone who is a very conservative republican but he also doesn't think that it means putting hundreds of thousands of people at risk i will get a hold
of him before there is a vote. i will camp out on the doorsteps if i have to. >> he understands this is a question that is in your dna if you are in the game for the right reason. they will look back and finish these jobs five or ten years from now. cutting $230 billion for the wealthiest people in america how many of them, the vast majority are supporters of republicans. it's going to be used to lobby and attack whoever. right now they have a million
dollars and that's why it takes courage to step up. i'm very hopeful and he certainly knows how important this is to me. i look at it as one of the bestt issues he's going to define himself by. they grew up on the plains of colorado and built his life with his own two hands. this bill would punish people in colorado. we have a friend who is a geologist in the west slope of colorado he would end up paying $25,000 a year.
he understands the hardships. of the thing is, words matter so much more than they ever have we can have a good floor debate and now if you look at somebody the wrong way, this tome is dysfunctional. i am hopeful look i think if these democratic senators come out and d you get five, six, sen of them and they say we are willing to sit down and work
together. what do the republicans say? we are not interested, drop dead? i don't think so. there are contentious issues when we put the letter together, we try to take on things we can agree on and that is the way that we negotiate. you pick things to agree on anything you get into the details and the authority of the subjects had work it out. listen, i've been involved in more negotiations whether it involves the b-2 bomber or the balanced budget. when people have a common purpose, they always figure out a way to be successful. and at the same is true in my state. the fact is there's people of
goodwill and intentions to get it done. what you have to think about when you leave washington or any elected position, do you lead people in the position they felt respected, lifted and given an opportunity or did you just look at lines on a piece of paper and make a position because you see the lines are flesh and blood. it's written in ink and print. but underlying all of that is the flash and blood of the impact. if they don't want to improve the comment and i am optimistic. john and i being here they didn't just do this because we want to talk to all of you i have a meeting i've been invited to talk to the board in my state. we are here because we actually feel strongly about this. the last thing i want to do is be hoisted on my own self-righteousness, but for some reason it's been deep in my
heart to think that these people that don't have much and those that were trying to have much and better their lives, i don't want to deal them a blow as they prosper. it's time for the republican and democratic party to realize we are a potential meltdown and the division between the rich and middle class who are coming more divided from the rich. we have to work together. america is the strongest when we believe in one another and there is a fairness that is what we need to achieve. >> [inaudible] >> i told him how important i think this is. i do not cast his vote. we will see what happens when the card goes in th car goes inr
however they vote in the senate. >> you said that there needed to be a bipartisan solution but they said the only way they will get to the table is that republican take the repealing of obamacare off and that means you are not in favor of repealing obamacare. i've always been in favor of bringing the changes to the health care system that works. so here's the thing. they've run around bashing obamacare and now they don't know what to do. there's 22, 23 million americans who lose health insurance and they think that's great, are you kidding me? why don't we have those folks go live under medicaid for a while, have them live under the exchange where they can get two, three, $4,000 to cover the health insurance cost. there is all this rhetoric. i had a democrat called me yesterday and say let's kill the
[inaudible] they were not included so how dare them and now here we are and we don't have to listen to them. it's all parties. of course i want the republicans to stand up. my staff has been trying to get people to sign on to a simple letter. a few billion dollars on the opiate opioids, repealing the expansion $4 billion a year it's like spitting in the ocean and everything in america is critical.
there should be protection for as long as i have been alive. i would be the first to talk about that and criticized them but let' what if both sides movg forward and see where we are. we act like we are in the fifth grade, actually in the congress of the united states. we are not in the fifth grade. even my girls don't do that we are boys for that matter. not like joey took my skateboard on my smart phone.
the. states have to assume the responsibility and as best as i can tell them i'm not sure how it works why am i concerned about this i talked to joe on about this because they are running they'rerunning a debt lt easy% of our gdp. there's nothing but slow growth look at great britain and japan. i don't know how it works but it does make sense the idea that we should have flexibility that makes sense both on medicaid and also on the exchange but there are some things that just ought to be mandated with more flexibility.
i like what the senate did getting them out of the insurance business with the ratio. i think that is a good thing. i happen to believe it can be 138 and over on the exchange and you can have a per capita grant i support that. in other words there is many things, you know what it goes down to, the resources. the problem is the resources have been cut. i think senator portman actually had an amendment he wanted to get through that would have left the revenues in place for a period of time to get this stabilized.
i remember talking to lamar alexander how will you have the dollars to fund this thing. there are ways to get it done. it's a fundamental aspect to run the system are simply not there. we need to guarantee all americans pre-existing conditions will never result in them losing health insurance. there's nobody thathere is nobot agree with them. if they are somewhere i don't know where they are because i've never met them thank you for allowing us to be here let's see where it all goes. thank you.
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