tv Laura Ingraham Billionaire at the Barricades CSPAN November 11, 2017 8:01am-9:01am EST
muslim-american federal agent tamar discusses his experiences fighting domestic terrorism in america. he's interviewed by michael german. also this weekend brian kilmeade provides a history of the war of 1812's battle of new orleans and the life of andrew jackson. amy knight. johanna noiman recounts the suffrage movement, and the before columbus foundation hosts the american book awards that recognizes outstanding literary achievement from the entire spectrum of america's diverse literary community. that's all this weekend on booktv on c-span2. 48 hours of nonfiction authors and books, television for serious readers. first up, fox news host laura ingraham discusses donald trump's appeal to the populist
movement and shares her thoughts on how to move the president's agenda forward. [applause] >> now to the main event. it's now my pleasure to introduce today's key note speaker, america's most listened to woman in political talk radio, laura ingram. she can be heard between 10 and 12 on am 850. laura is a former white collar defense attorney and supreme court law clerk. her nationally syndicated talk show is ranked in the nation's top ten rated shows and heard coast to coast in nearly 250 markets. she's the editor-in-chief and cofounder of lifedebt.com and the author of several new york times bestsellers including the
obama diaries, power to the people, shut up and sing and the hillary trap. laura has been a guest host on many of fox news channel's programs as well as a contributor to abc's this week. it was also recently announced that she would be headlining fox news' new prime time tv show which will debut in the 10:00 hour one week from today. [applause] fox news has said that laura aims to cut through the washington chatter to speak directly with unexpected voices and the actual people who are impacted by the news of the day. during today's speech we look forward to her bringing this same candor as she details how president trump remade the reagan revolution in his own
imaeg, attracting a new coalition of voters. previously unreported details behind the president's victory and the possible pitfalls that lay ahead for his ambitious agenda. topics found in her new book, "billionaire at the barricades," which is on sale in the library thanks to our partnership with the palm beach bookstore. so without further ado, ladies and gentlemen, laura ingram. laura ingraham. [applause] >> thank you, everybody, i really appreciate it. [applause] i want to thank everybody here at the forum. amazing group. it's great to sell out, and i just want to say it's good to be with the little people in palm beach area. [laughter] the regular people. apparently this just came in,
you guys are busy, so maybe you didn't see this. apparently, my kids are looking for halloween costumes. i have a 12-year-old, a 9-year-old and a 7-year-old at home. and apparently, there's been a run on rhinestone cowboy hats, have you seen that? [laughter] i don't know what they're talking about. apparently, they've different colors -- they're different colors, green, blue, red. it's kind of like that homeland security code system. [laughter] but those rhinestones fall off easily, so be careful about those. you know it's bad for the american media and for politics, i guess you could say both, when former president of the united states jimmy carter gives an interview, and the title of the piece after his interview -- it was in "the new york times" with maureen dowd -- the title of the piece in the business insider today is jimmy carter defends trump in wide-ranging interview.
[laughter] i thought literally, i was, like, did i wake up on april fool's? how can this possibly be the title of a piece today when i was getting ready for radio this morning over at wftl. and, indeed, president carter at age 93 has an enormous amount of perspective and wisdom, and i would say, you know, he has, he has some pragmatism in how he's looking at the united states now and the rest of the world. i don't agree with president carter probably on a lot, but i thought it was so heartening to have him give an interview to "the new york times" and say that, and i'm paraphrasing, but in his lifetime he hasn't seen an american president treated in
the way that donald trump has been treated. hadn't seen it. i -- he went on to burst "the new york times"' bubble by saying he didn't think russia changed the outcome of the election, nor did he see any evidence of any type of collusion with russia. and he went on to say that china and russia and japan are on the rise and that the united states is being challenged, really challenged. he said that our standing in the world had taken a hit, had been diminished, and that decline had preceded donald trump. now, i guess "the new york times" and the lame stream media -- [laughter] i guess they could just say this is part of the right-wing, the vast right-wing conspiracy that hillary is still talking about. by the way, will that book tour
of hers ever end? [laughter] oh, my god. she was giving an interview to a ham radio host in berlin yesterday. i was like -- [laughter] i mean, look, my book was -- by the way, my book is now officially a new york times bestseller. i just found out. [applause] but to quote hillary, what difference does it make? you're all here. [laughter] but hillary's the kind of -- she's on this book tour, and it reminds me of those oriental rug stores, you know, they're always going out of business. lost our lease, going out of business. real, final sale. that or the cher farewell tour, it never ends. lo and behold, $500 for a ticket in vegas to see her. so she was out there, hillary, yesterday. and she said in an interview with a radio host in the united
kingdom, she said that she was on the platform at the inaugural. and, remember, it was kind of a misty day in washington. i was up on the riser on the platform, so i was maybe 25 yards, 30 yards. i was up here on the side, and they were here, obviously, the president, president trump is giving his address. he's sworn into office, hand up, then he speaks. hillary said that she was sitting there, and donald trump was talking about what had happened to the country and how things had, you know, flatlined, median income had actually declined in real dollar terms and that people wanted a new approach to the border, to these trade deals, etc. and hillary says that george w. bush looked at her and said, this is the craziest, weirdest bunch of horse hockey that i've
ever heard. like that, laughing to hillary. and, you know, the media loved that. you know, they love when a republican like george w. bush or pick your republican, john mccain, lindsey graham, jeff flake, go on and on. they love it when a republican trashes a conservative populist, especially a republican president in office like donald trump. and i thought to myself that kind of really does, that little vignette of bush snickering with hillary, laughing at donald trump, that explains this. trump didn't come out of nowhere. he didn't kind of just pop out of, you know, a vacuum, and he didn't win, by the way, because of jim comey or the russians.
he didn't win because he's a celebrity, because he was self-financed, he didn't win because of facebook ads. donald trump won this election because americans in the critical states that make up our electoral college were kind of sick of being snickered at. they were tired of being laughed at. they were tired of being told one thing in the campaign season and having governance as another thing. [applause] and the bipartisan establishment that i write about in "billionaire at the barricades" had for about 25 years or so kicked the people that i come from to curb. where do i come from? i come from a middle class town, i grew up in a middle class neighborhood in connecticut. not in greenwich, not in, you know, one of the fancier areas of connecticut. i had a -- don't get me wrong, i
loved my public school, loved my community. but i come from working people. and i don't like calling them ordinary americans, by the way. i have to stop myself. reagan never liked that either. or average americans. because my mother waited tables until she couldn't carry the trays any longer. she couldn't carry a tray any longer at age 74 because her hand had such terrible arthritis. she was someone who didn't take a penny from the government because she didn't believe that people who had two hands and two feet and a mind should do anything but work. she taught me that there is dignity in every job, there is respect for everybody who puts in the effort to work every day. at every level of society. my father ran a car wash. he worked for a time at a pratt and whitney aircraft engine in
east hartford. it was a really important manufacturing firm. still is, smaller, in connecticut. my mom didn't go to college. she was very smart, very street smart. she would have loved trump, because she had kind of a twinkle in her eye and a lot of fight. she was about five feet tall. parents were polish immigrants. man, she didn't take a lot of guff from people. i think that's where i got it from, my mother. but she is with me today. she animates what i do on a daily basis. like -- i was a lawyer, i was working at a big law firm, and it was a good life. don't get me wrong, it was great. i enjoyed it. i'm glad i had that experience clerking for justice thomas on the circuit court of appeals in manhattan and then at a big litigation firm. it taught me a lot. big, working for a big law firm taught me a lot, what i wanted
to do, what i didn't want to do. but i think in the end i ended up making my way in kind of a circuitous path to what i'm doing now because i tried to hold on to where i came from. my mother, when she was really sick back in 1999, she had lung cancer, she said never, ever forget where you came from. it was when i just started in the media. i just began my television show back then, believe it or not, for msnbc in the morning. [laughter] yeah. my show was called "watch it." apparently, not enough people did. [laughter] well, learned a lot since then. i learned a lot from being fired. you learn a lot from being fired, don't you? i learned a lot from losing a couple of jobs, and what i was good at, what i wasn't so good at. but she really never let me forget that. like, i worked in a -- she's like i worked in a thread
factory, we grew up with a stove in the kitchen, and we all had to sleep in there. you grew up in a rambler house with six people and one little bathroom. three boys slept in one room, you slept in the den. that's what you grew up in, and that's what you need to take with you every day. not that she didn't want me to be successful, you bet she did. she's watching us right now. she wanted me to be successful. but you know what she wanted me to remember and what i try to do every day -- i don't always succeed, but i really try -- that this country is such a blessing to us. our freedom -- [applause] our liberty, our independence, the ability of a man or a woman regardless of where you came from, what your political party is, your race to make a decent
living even if you didn't get to go to a good school or a college, but you could actually support a family. i mean, we could support a family in the 19, you know, i was a little kid in the 1960s, 1970s. you could support a family by being a waitress -- jobs that americans will do, by the way -- being a waitress, owning a little, small business, putting your nose to the grindstone. your kids will mow lawns, that's what we did. they'll pick fruit. that's what i did. we deliver newspapers, that's what all my brothers did. we babysat. anything we needed to do to make money to save to have a better life. we did it not thinking we were middle class or poor or lower middle -- we just did it. that's what you do. this is america. you don't wait for someone else to do the job, you do it. kind of pragmatic thinking.
not even all that political, but pragmatic. so when i hear people talk about, well, you know, trump is like he tweets too much, or he's, he takes things too personally or he fights with everybody, i say to myself what the heck did both political parties do to this country over the last 25 years? what happened to america as the sole military superpower unrivaledded after world war ii? what gradually happened since about 1988 onward? how did china develop the largest standing military in the world? people understand that? they have 2.3 million standing army, china. how does it that china has a $360 billion, with a b, trade
surplus with the united states last year? how did that happen? how did it happen that china has a plan called the made in china 2025 plan? do you know what that is? it's not as exciting as what frederica wilson overheard on the phone, i realize -- [laughter] not as exciting as that, but it's really important. because guess what china is planning to do? dominate every major industry in the world. "wall street journal" piece today, china pushes domestic electric car batteries. seems like, well, so big deal. last month beijing began requiring all automakers, foreign and domestic, to begin making electric and other alternative energy vehicles by 2019. while china hopes to clear its polluted skies, its primary objective is to help its domestic industry leapfrog foreign rivals by creating a large, captive market for their
products, analysts say. electric vehicle production is one of the ten high-tech industries that beijing is prioritizing through its flagship made in china 2025 strategy. trade and other economic experts in the united states are saying this is protectionist, it's blatant, their rules are blatantly favoring chinese domestic companies. that's shocking. [laughter] that a country would try to protect its manufacturing base. laura, this is a free market, this is great. this is all the free market. china's -- well, right? okay. guess what donald trump is doing? you know, he doesn't get the, doesn't get the publicity. going back to this piece for a moment. u.s. trade representative -- this is donald trump's cabinet -- bob lite heiser launched an information into
chinese -- investigation into chinese companies forcing american companies to risk their -- he's expected to examine chinese rules requiring many foreign companies including auto companies to form local joint ventures to be allowed, in order to be allowed to operate in china potentially, what? jeopardizing their intellectual property. boeing, one of the most important american companies, in a joint venture -- well, in china on commercial aviation. donald trump, bob lighthizer, they think it's important to actually look at these deals really carefully. what happens if america is eclipsed in commercial aviation manufacturing? what do you think happens to seattle? do we care? do we care what happens to american manufacturing, or do we think everybody can write code? [laughter] your alternative is to, like,
work at dsw i shoe warehouse or be some type of hedge fund guy or write code? is that really -- it may be working whatever shopping malls are left in the united states. that can't be. so when people say, laura, you're a protectionist, no, no, no, no. there is a trade war being waged right now, and we're losing it. we're losing it because until donald trump came along we had, we had a number of presidents who, frankly, were asleep at the switch, who were not examining the key question. the key question for me is what type of country do we want to live in. do we want a country where we have super rich and is everybody else? -- and everybody else? i think we've seen how that's worked out in south america. it's been -- that's a pretty tough deal. doesn't work too well for too long. our middle class, the so-called
ordinary americans, had been ignored and derided and kicked to the curb year after year after year from 2000 to 2008, our last two-term republican president who had a lot on his plate and had a lot to deal with, it was difficult. but you can't expect things to go well for your party when you start off with 53,000 median income in the united states, 57,000, um, -- excuse me, and ed at 53,000 when you finish. is that sustainable? i mean, last time i checked our incomes are supposed to be going like this. but, of course, there are a lot of big companies and big corporations who, you know, they don't lose sleep over flatlining becames. but i can tell you -- wages. but i can tell you the people i come from do. can't put a kid through college today, can't do it with any
sense of ease without huge anxiety if you have wages that in real terms are actually going down. so donald trump comes along in 2016 not out of a vacuum or, you know, not because he's brash. yeah, he can be brash, sure. but i think for the first time in a long time people thought, well, maybe we need kind of a bully to beat back the bullies. we're not deplorable, we're not irredeemable, we don't cling to our guns and our religion -- well, maybe we do cling to the guns. [laughter] sometimes that's okay. but this is america. we're proud of who we are. and it's okay to conserve what is good about america. i'm a conservative. conserving is good. the philosophy of conservativism
taken to its, in its purist form, libertarians will say we just want open borders, open markets. they keep repeating. hillary said in this that private speech she gave to goldman sachs, open borders, open markets. to what end is that? an open border in the age of al-qaeda and isis, ms-13, human trafficking, really? open markets. well, i guess. how's that working out for us? we have special trade status right now with mexico and canada. it's great, they're great allies, but it's come at a huge price. the vast rust belt of the united states rose up in 2016, and and i had -- i think i don't -- other than adopting my first child i don't think, i think it's probably -- i think other
than adopting maria in guatemala nine years ago, i think the most fun i've had was on election night. [laughter] [applause] because all of these people who are paid to know what's going to happen -- [laughter] who were, like, two hours earlier they were in the fox hallway, the pollsters who were telling me doesn't look good for your guy, doesn't look good. i'd say about 410 electoral votes for hillary. 399, 400. i said, ooh, that's bad. that's bad for trump. well -- then they just start repeating the old, well, pennsylvania's going to be his waterloo. how many times did you hear that? leading up to election night? and let me tell you when i for sure knew that donald trump was going to win.
i mean, i had a pretty good sense just because on the radio you get an instant focus group every day. the radio is so valuable. i could hear what, you know, what was on people's minds. they were discounting all the chatter, all the side issues that were keeping the press busy. it was sunday night right, you know, sunday before the election, and i get a call at about -- this must have been 5:00 in the afternoon. i was sitting down for late -- we have a sunday dinner at my house with my surrogate parents, and we were sitting, laughing, having a good time. and i get a phone call. and it was someone from the campaign. they said, what are you doing? i said, having dipper, what are you doing -- dinner, what are you doing? they were like, do you want to come to lees burg, virginia? what's going on there? well, donald trump's going to make a final stop in virginia, and he's in five states today,
and he's going to wind up in virginia at 9:00. and i'm like, okay, it's like an hour and a half or so drive. i said, definitely i'm going, hello, yeah. you want to speak? of course i'll speak. pile a bunch of friends in the car, grab my daughter. school night, who cares, this is history. [laughter] put on an extra jacket, maria, we'll be fine. we all pile in the car, we drive up there, and i'm thinking this is a last minute thing which could be a total disaster in politics, right? you just never know what's going to happen. so we pull up and i'm, like, why am i doing this? i'm already exhausted, it's late, it was one of those really cold november nights. and so i'm like what is this backup? i'm looking, oh, my god, there must be an accident. we rolled down our window, and the police officer said who are you, where are you going? i said, well, i'm supposed to speak tonight. he's like, there's like a 14,000 people trying to get into a place that holds 1900 people.
[laughter] [applause] so i don't know if you're going to get in. i don't even know if you're going to get in. so we find this back road through the woods, and we drive, and i am not kidding you, people with kids on their shoulders, blankets, coolers, american flags, little, you know, down coats, babies had blankets, plaid blankets, veterans with their caps on, korean war, vietnam war. and i got out of the car and i felt so bad because i knew these people wouldn't get in to the event. and i said -- i jumped out of the car and a bunch of people came up to me and i said, guys, you guys, it's freezing. go back, you're not going to get in. the event's already full. it was an amphitheater, a covered area. and one after the other said we don't care.
we want to be there. one after the other. finally make it to the venue, and the line, just the individual line is snaking -- in the dark, mind you -- snaking, snaking, snaking all the way up this hillside. so i went up with my producer, and i was talking to people. this is where you get the real story. and we walked and walked and walked. people quiet, people seemed so patient. and pitch black. and i finally, there was an older gentleman, maybe he was in his, i don't know, late 70s, early 80s, and he was in a wheelchair. and he had a usa cap on. and i asked his, looked like his daughter, i said do you do you e to bring you guys to the front? i'll get you in, but he shouldn't be out here in the cold. i can't stand it when people let
elderly women wait in line, i'll bring you to the front. and he looked at me and without skipping a beat he said, ma'am, where i come from people don't cut in line. [laughter] like that. [applause] and i said, okay, how are those redskins? [laughter] he had cut me to the quick. and that kind of summed it up. that little vignette about the goodness of america. i think a lot of people last night thought it was the last stand for the country. the traditions that they loved, belief in america first that our policies from domestic to trade to spending, immigration, foreign policy, the policies are for the peoplement the government -- the people. the government works for us, not the other way around.
we're not the servants. [applause] and so no one left. the venue was full, and they all stayed. and they weren't complaining like i probably would have been complaining. they weren't. i thought, wow, this is incredible. trump was supposed to show up at nine, okay? jerry falwell jr. was speaking, we were all -- they're like stretching, stretching as long as possible. he's not here. at about midnight we're in the back of this pavilion, and i'm getting updates. he's not going to make it. he's been in minnesota, pennsylvania, ohio, you know, hopscotch across the country. then you see the line of the suvs rolling up the hill, right? so they let me stand out in back
with my daughter. somehow i thought a little girl from an orphanage in guatemala meeting who i thought was going to be the future president of the united states, like, i know it's selfish, but i wanted to see that. because i've known donald trump for a long time. i know what's in his heart. stood there, he hopped out of the suv. he's exhausted. i mean, 70 years old, five states. he gets out and he looks at me, he's like, ingraham, you're really late. [laughter] i said, nice try. really funny. and then he said you didn't think i was going to win until tonight, isn't that right? he said you -- he said you see that crowd? because he likes the crowd. you see that crowd? i said, it's unbelievable. i said, you are going to win. and he's like, let's go. he hops out on stage. and there was, and before he jumps on the stage he said, and he sees maria and a few other
kids that were back there, and secret service is like let's go, let's go, let's go. they have handlers, they've got to keep him on schedule, i understand that. and he stopped everything, walked over to where the kids were, and i got a photo of my daughter -- which i wish i had, i would have put it up on the screen -- which i think goes down as one, i don't think i've ever seen him look happier, and i don't think i've ever seen her look happier. and it was i awesome. it was just a great moment, loved it. [applause] the country was waiting for someone unconventional, someone who would hold up a mirror to the failures both parties and someone who would put the interests of, quote, ordinary americans first. donald trump has done that. [applause] in ten months without
republicans passing obamacare repeal, voting accept times to do it -- seven times to do it when it didn't matter, and when they finally could do it, they couldn't. unbelievable. unbelievable. i mean, i think he was truly shocked by that. they can't pass obamacare repeal. he does keystone pipeline, he gets neil gorsuch on the supreme court, he's nominated dozens and dozens of phenomenal appellate court and district court judges. he's already begun to untangle unnecessary federal regulation from small and medium-sized businesses. of course they're on their way to passing tax reform. we have growth that is stunning right now. in the market we finally have more than 3% gdp, just revised upward. we have the lowest unemployment rate in 17 years. if this were a democrat president and those were the statistics in october of his first year, what do you think
the media would be saying about that president? what do you think the media would be saying today after maxine waters, congresswoman, said over the weekend that she was going to, quote, take trump out? this after barack obama, george w. bush, hillary clinton and pretty much everyone else who was in the resist trump movement said that words matter. this is after las vegas, horrific shooting, this is after steve scalise. people forget about what happened to steve scalise. horrific. words do matter. we all can do better. i certainly can, always. the -- but the country, people say, well, we want the country united. you know when the country was united? for a short time after 9/11, we were united. and for about two years after pearl harbor, we were united. america is a place where people argue. big debates should happen.
we should really lock horns not on the personalities so much, but on the substance. i think what happens and what has happened until trump is that the media and the political powers that be, they loved having these side disputes because it allowed them to go behind closed doors and cut deals with each other without the american people really being clued in at all. for that we got, like, trans-pacific partnership, remember they couldn't reveal what was in that until the last minute? we got the stimulus bill, we have obamacare, all these things behind closed doors. we had the gang of eight amnesty bill behind closed doors. and then suddenly they announce these things, and it turns out they're not very popular, are they? turns out that americans want policies that actually redound to their benefit. real growth, real accountability, real borders, a
foreign policy that puts america's interests first while respecting, of course, our allies, military interventionism? i don't know, you know, we talk about exporting democracy abroad, but the same people who talk about exporting democracy aced broad never seem to mention china. there's a lot that donald trump has to overcome. some of his wounds can be self-inflicted. he's not perfect. some of all of our wounds are self-inflicted, aren't they? over the course of our lives. but the barricades that i write about in this book are some of the same barricades that my old boss, ron reagan, had to clear. a big media apparatus that was almost, i think almost all of it was aligned against him. they called him stupid, they said he slept during the or day, they said he was just an actor. they called him ronnie raygun. they ridiculed him at every
turn. i know because i was there. he had to clear that, and he did. he had to clear a democrat party that to -- that occasional hi would work with him but often times didn't. and ronald reagan had to clear the other barricade from 1976ing of course of course, until 1980 which was called the old gop establishment. more globalist than he was and more big spending than he was. now, how did reagan do that? he did that by keeping his eye trained on the american people. if i could give donald trump any advice -- and i'm sure on my new fox show occasionally i will -- it would be to remember that. that long after he's gone, these issues and these debates will continue. this movement, this conservative populist movement that wants to return more power to the people at every level, this movement
continues. they could get rid of trump tomorrow. they could do something, they could try to impeach him, maybe they beat him in 2020, i don't know. we'll see how it goes. but these issues are big issues. what will the world look like if china is a dominant superpower? what will the world be like if we lose another major manufacturing sector to asia or beyond? what will the world look like if we decide that maybe it's time to really change the way we think of citizenship in the united states? maybe non-citizens should vote. is that what we want in the country? is that the kind of country we want? the it's up to the people to decide. but these issues that he first raised when he started to discuss his running for president, these are the big issues of the day. we've got north korea, we have still a challenge from russia, china on the rise, we have
unbelievable problems in the african continent which, again, in today's press obsessed with frederica wilson they're not going to really talk about those issues. but it will go on. so i would say to donald trump focus on the fact that you're a temporary occupant of this white house. always keep it focused on the american people. ronald reagan famously said in 1980 when he was running, he was reminded that, you know, he kind of had a thin budget early on in the campaign, and john connolly who was running against him, one of his advisers said connolly's got tons of money from new york and manhattan, and, you know, he's got a lot of dough. and reagan famously said, i'm not worried about that. i'd much rather have main street on my side than wall street. [applause] trump said the same thing. [applause]
so trump or clears all these barricades in front of him, and he returns on his promise to drain the swamp, returns power back to the people, we continue to see this economy doing as well as it is and better which i think it's going to do after this tax reform passes, and i think this conservative populist movement will have just started. i think this is -- other than reagan in 1980, i haven't seen anything like this. and it is no wonder that the obamas, the clintons, the bushes -- sorry to chamber of commerce -- all the big media outlets, they're all aligned against us. ask yourself why. a lot of them have gotten fat and happy off the status quo.
i was on my way to law school. i didn't even know he knew my name. this is a very short ride we all have in this country. we're going to be gone in the blink of an eye. what kind of country do we want to leave behind? i'm going to try to make it matter on fox every night. i'm going to, i hope, make you laugh at the end of the night. we want to make you laugh, we want to surprise you. we want to tell you what's going on, the story behind the story. not just the headlines, not just the shiny object that the rest of the media wants you to pay attention to. but i'm really looking forward to it. it's a new chapter for me. i hope you'll all tune in, and i hope this book puts a historical frame from reagan to buchanan to ross perot all the way to the tea party movement and donald trump. i hope you understand after reading this what happened and why it happened and why it will continue long, long past donald
>> he often speaks without one. >> well, i find that refreshing. [laughter] frankly. [applause] you know, i write in the end of book about message discipline. in the reagan era, we had almost a message a day. so if the focus of the week was, let's say it was a tax cut. obviously early on the reagan administration pushed major tax reform. any cabinet department that had anything to do with tax cutting was onboard, and everybody or in their own way was amplifying the message. that really worked well. it was really well coordinated. it was -- but i gotta say this is a different world. when people say, well, can you
tell them to stop tweeting, i say, well, tell the sun not to come up in the morning. he's going to tweet. he's not going to stop tweeting. and i think in his own way which, again, is up conventional -- unconventional, but he won unconventionally, remember, he manages to hold up the mirror to where we are in the culture of politics at any given time. and there's value in that. now, at times it's a little bit of a roller coaster, and it's true, it can be a little like, whoa. however, i think when you think about him down in alabama a couple weeks ago, remember when he went down there for that rally for luther strange who was the kind of establishment pick, he went with the establishment guy against this guy roy moore for jeff sessions' old senate sheet. he's down there on stage.
i guess he had a teleprompter for some of his remarks, but i think he pretty much knew luther strange wasn't going to win because he saw a lot of roy moore supporters in the crowd. i think half the crowd was roy moore. and they love trump. so he's in an odd situation there. he's there for luther strange, the crowd, half of them probably is for roy moore. he got advised to go down this by bob corker. he's now gone, right? [laughter] so trump's up there, and he has such good political instincts. he's up there and he's like, well, what about that nfl? [laughter] what about these players who can't stand for the national anthem? i started getting all these tweets, texts from people, excuse me. can you believe -- trump's off on a separate topic. this doesn't make any sense, why is he talking about the nfl? i think it was unplanned, but it was showing his political instincts. these value issues that he
raises -- media unfairness, standing for the national anthem -- i think those are actually really important issues. and i think we've seen all the people that day go back and look at what twitter was saying about donald trump that day. he's off message, he lost his train of thought. no, he didn't. he saw what was happening. he wants to be popular. and he knew that if he brought this issue up of the nfl, that the country would rally to the flag and to patriotism, to civic pride. and what happened? again yesterday the nfl had among its lowest ratings. [applause] and i'm glad. [applause] so, i mean, is that -- is it traditional message discipline? no, it's not. is it trump? yeah. and he did that on the campaign trail. and it's the way people speak. it's the way people are.
so when you have obama on a teleprompter, the president, president obama, i don't find him particularly to be an enthralling speaker. yeah, he's magnetic, he has a magnetic presence on stage. but when he's on a teleprompter, is it exciting? i don't know. reagan was phenomenal on a teleprompter. it takes a -- believe me, i can read a teleprompter. it's hard. it takes some practice. it's kind of an art. but speaking off the cuff is much more compelling, i think. and i think obama, if you're a democrat, obama was great on the stump off the cuff. so trump is a different cat, he's a different kind of cat. he's going to do it his own way. so i don't think the old rules, the old rules of, well, you have to spend a certain amount of money in pennsylvania to win. you can't win florida unless you do media buys up and down the state. i think those old rules are gone. i think they're gone, and i think good riddance, frankly.
[applause] you're going to view trump like i viewed reagan. you might not think it now. watch. you're going to view the next four years, next eight years -- if i had to guess right now, you people are going to look back, you're going to look back 20, 30 years, and you're going to say, you're going to say trump republican. you're not going to say you're a bush republican, i can tell you that. [laughter] you're going to say you're a trump republican. i say i'm a reagan republican. trump continues the conservative populist position. but, i mean, i don't see anyone else on the horizon fighting for the american people like he is. thank you, honey. thank you for being here. [applause] >> the second student from the academy is ready, please introduce yourself. m. >> it's all students, i love that. the adults get no play. isn't that great? it's their future. >> hi. my name is -- [inaudible] i'm a junior -- [inaudible] student transition program. my question is who is one of
your contemporaries who holds opposing viewpoints from your own that you truly admire and respect and why. [laughter] [applause] >> let me buy a vowel. no, i've actually addressed this before. it's a great question. and i've actually reached out to her on a few occasions and suggested that we do a little, some things across the country for, just for good, just good mojo and maybe some stuff for charity. and don't you, any of you gasp when i say this, but rachel maddow on msnbc. now, why do i say that? why to i say that? i think you've asked a really good question. why do i say that? number one, she puts on a nightly show that she writes,
she believes it, she's pushing for the agenda for america that she thinks is the right agenda, and she's fighting every night. i mean, it's -- i don't know, a lot of you guys don't watch it. i dip in, i like to see what other people are doing. but i think that's what it's all about. i like mixing it up with people. it's a big country. and i think it's good for us to listen to different angles. you sharpen your own arguments by talking to others and listening to others. i think when i was younger i didn't probably listen enough to other people. you know, this was always going to be right. and i get, in my view, i improve my own delivery in my own approach by watching and listening other people. understanding where they come from. it's interesting that people come from different points of view, same issues. completely 180 different point of i view.
why? and sometimes it's good to do that. so, yeah, i respect her. i respect the fact that she's out there fighting. it's -- doing a nightly show is, it seems kind of glamorous. it's a great opportunity, it's a great privilege, but it's a lot of work. and she's a woman doing it in prime time and totally opposite me, i hope i do kind of a back and forth with her at some point. maybe we can do it for one of our mutual favorite charities or something. hope that answers it. [applause] thank you. >> do you see president trump emulating reagan's model for working with tip o'neill as a legislative model for moving the people's agenda forward? >> i think donald trump is going to work with anyone who'll advance his agenda. and i think that's what the country wants. i was happy to see him work with the democrats on a temporary lifting of the debt ceiling. i thought that was a really smart thing to do especially
after the republicans couldn't get their act together on obamacare. so trump's looking around going, okay, i tried to work with you on this for months and months and months, you guys are the experts. i'm going to work with these guys because i want to put pressure on the republicans to get this tax reform done before the end of the year. boy, suddenly he got everybody's attention. he got everybody's attention with that. the reagan/tip o'neill analogy is a little worn. and historically it sounds better as we're describing it now than it was. reagan was a warrior for conservativism. he was a warrior against the old washington way. and it didn't happen overnight that he was able to transform america. and he was ridiculed and reviled by all the elites until they really realized, whoa, this guy
won in a near landslide, then he won in a landslide in 1984. and by the way, speaking to someone close to the president the other day, i said, well, what's your goal here? my goal is that this conservative populist movement continue and that the trump agenda is advanced and passed in large part, and my goal to make that come to fruition, my goal has to be a landslide for trump in 2020. like, a landslide. like, he should go everywhere in the country and sell conservative populism. i'd go to california, upstate new york, massachusetts, i'd go everywhere. go to the parts of the country where republicans and conservatives aren't popular. reagan did that. he was in the bronx i think two weeks before the 1980 election. he was in the bronx. i love that. go everywhere. spread the gospel. it's hard for the antifa crowd there, they're some unsavory characters, but i think there's an enormous amount of running
room for this agenda of better trade deals, smart immigration, law and order, power to the people, get america back on track, american businesses first. i just think there is a huge upside. and beyond identity politics too. [applause] >> laura, everybody would like an opportunity to perhaps get a picture with you, so we're going to wrap up the q&a. we thank you very much for -- >> i actually have a cardboard cutout of rachel mad i dow. she'll be standing in for me. >> we thank candace cohen from the palm beach bookstore -- >> thank you, everybody. [applause] >> miami book fair takes place in downtown miami at the wilson campus of miami-dade college. this year we have a little over 525 authors representing every genre, anything that you can think of we're representing at miami book fair. >> join booktv for the miami
book fair live from miami-dade college saturday and sunday november 18th and 19th on c-span2. >> here's a look at some authors recently feature on booktv's "after words," our weekly author interview program. former face the nation host bob schieffer examined the role of the media today. former fox news anchor gretchen carlson talked about the challenges of women who had been sexually harassed in the would be place. and craig shirley discussed the life of newt gingrich. in theing weeks, daily caller news foundation christopher bedford will explore the leadership skills of president trump. christopher scalia, the son of the late supreme court justice antonin scalia, will share selections from his father's speeches. new york times best selling author -- [inaudible] will report on the work of her grandfather, manhattan project scientist james bryan.
and this weekend, an fbi agent details his experience fighting terrorism as a muslim-american. >> was or is a brilliant scientist. iq off the charts, on the precipice of curing infectious diseases. and he goes from that, being able to be such a gift to humanity, in two years' time, in less than two years' time ends up one step removed from aymanal al-zawahiri, the leader of al-qaeda. and that story fascinating me because of the fact that i'm a counterterrorism operative, but i think the world should understand why he did what he did, how he did what he did. and i think that's, again, part of the deep dive into that terrorist mindset, and it's a first step for all of us to really understand our enemy. >> "after words" airs on
booktv every saturday at 10 p.m. eastern and sunday at 9 p.m. eastern and pacific. >> this morning watch the wisconsin book festival starting at noon eastern featuring best selling historian doug stanton and pulitzer prize-winning journalist david maraniss discussing the 1968 tet offensive. washington post staff writer amy goldstein on the fallout from the closing of a gm plant in janesville, wisconsin. pulitzer prize-winning journalist daniel golden will discuss how national security agencies established espionage rings at more than united statessers, and jessica bruder looks at the lives of migrant workers in the united states. watch the wisconsin book festival this morning starting at noon eastern on c-span2's booktv. >> booktv tapes hundreds of author programs throughout the country all year long.
here's a look at some of the events we'll be covering this week. on monday we'll be in new york city at the new school for history professor steven stoll's history of the appalachian region. tuesday we're off to smu in dallas to hear jeffrey engel's talk about president bush george h.w.'s -- president george h.w. bush's foreign policy. wednesday, back in new york for the book awards. also that evening we'll be at miami-dade college where donna brazile will reflect on the russian hacking of the dnc and the 2016 election. thursday we're back at miami-dade college with former first daughters barbara pearce bush and jenna bush hager who will share their experiences growing up in the political spotlight. that same evening in princeton, new jersey, amanda -- [inaudible] will give a behind the scenes look at former first lady michelle obama's life in the white house. and in austin on thursday, a
presidential historian will discuss the relationship and political careers of presidents george h.w. bush and george w. bush. finally this week on saturday and sunday we'll be live at the 2017 miami book fair featuring senator al franken, best selling biographer walter isaacson, nbc news' katie, the ur and several others. many of these events are open for the public. look for them to air in the near future on booktv on c-span2. >> and now booktv's monthly "in depth" program with best selling author michael lewis. mr. lewis has written many books including liars' poker, moneyball, the big short and most recently, "the undoing project: a friendship that changed our minds." ..