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secret so you have no idea, recorded voting committees, subcommittees and committees of whole house through most of the 1960s so congress was a pretty closed process, pretty elitist process dominated by a group that increasingly was out of touch and out of step with the very group that was the majority, the democratic caucus. ..ern california next to the c-span bus and we want to introduce you to the author roger simon. he's written a series of novels and turning right at hollywood and vine and the perils of coming out conservative in tinseltown and here is his most recent book called i know best how moral how northerly narcissism is destroying our republic if it hasn't already. i want to let you know also that roger l. simon is a hollywood screenwriter, busted loose, came
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out with richard pryor, scenes from a mall with bet midler and woody allen and nominated for an oscar for enemies and a love story and the cofounder and ceo of pj media. roger simon what is pj media it was pajamas media when we started it the early part of the century i can say, and it was a amalgamation of blocks that -- of blogs formed in response to dan ratherrers lying but a the bush national guard situation. then i guess he was managing editor or supervising editor of cbs. called us all amateurs in our pajamas for attacking this
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dishoney overate of rathers. we wouldn't am ma tours but he done bother to look it up before he attacked. that's what most people do they just attack. so, that's what happened. then evolved over the years, and now it's a -- it was originally intend when i was helping form it as a media company on the right and left with dialogue between both sides. but that fell apart in part because the people on the left side wanted more money. this sort of much like you wonder how much someone like juan williams is paid by fox news no represent the left. we couldn't afford to negotiate so it became more of a center right, a lot of libertarians. consider myself i guess
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libertarian. i don't like definitions much. because they sort of hem you in, but that's what happened, now it's a media company, reporting and giving opinion and all of the things that national review does and et cetera. >> host: would a lot of people consider it so-called conservative news site. >> guest: i think that is fair to say, yes. despite the oddest innings e intention or trying to do the impossible which doesn't exist in our cull sure you have written a book called "turning right of hollywood and vine, the perils of coming out conservative in tinseltown." were you not always a conservative/lickber tarean. >> guest: not at all. mart of fact you're looking at one of he original financiers of the black panther party. i was pretty far on the left when i was young man, as many
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are. might be the living embodiment of that quote, a tributeed to churchill, a -- if man is no a liberal at 20 he has no heart and is not a conservative at 30 he has no brain. whenever that quote was given issue it was given when people lived shorter. but you get the idea. i'm more of a 9/11 person who came over around then. >> host: so 9/11 impacted your politics. >> guest: great deal. >> host: walk us through it. >> host: actual. >> guest: my politics has been slightly impact bid the oj trial. the oj trial in l.a. was a gigantic deal. it took over the city as people who were alive then remember. and i went to the trial and i was an ex-civil rights worker frontal the south, and
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started -- it disturbed me to see someone obviously guilty getting off for racial reasons, because back in the days when i was in the civil rights movement, i believed that integration but it was a kind of a return to tribalism, essentially tribalism that got oj off. and that didn't change me that much. just disturbed me. and then when 9/11 hit, i kind of flip over a lot. not entirely. to this day i'm pro gay marriage, as an example. i don't have any problem with -- marry whatever you want, just have a good lawyer. but-so at that point i switched over and i had started blogging at the same time, because i'm kind of an early adopter. my father was radiologist and i
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grew round tech stop. so astarted blogging and i had a novel coming out by simon & schuster, one of my detective series, and i noticed that simon & schuster wasn't promoting the book very much and i hate been an author long enough you can smell when they likeddor book or didn't. didn't take a rocket scientist cycle decided to blog to push the book, not just one of these status -- static author sites, look what publisher's weekly said. not very interesting. i started to blog my opinions, and the blog took off like crazy but the book didn't sell. nevertheless, something happened. but the blog took off because i was going through this political change, and i was just being honest about it. a lot of people at that time were talking 2003 and -- were going through a change like that. if you remember the media --
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immediate post 9/11 period there was a great del of unanimity in the country and then people reverted to where they are before. but somehow i didn't. it's a mystery to me. even though i wrote "turning right at hollywood and vine" to explain myself, i didn't fully explain myself because is think people are mysterious why they believe what they do. it's a complex issue. i think it's -- the theme of me life and work going forward, whether in fiction, film, or nonfiction as i've done. >> host: so, did you lose friendships when you came out at commit hollywood? >> guest: absolutely. >> host: did you lose work. >> guest: i lost friendships, alienate parts of my family. it's a terrible thing. it's gone on in this country all over the place. i mean, thanksgiving is not what it used to be. >> host: describe what happened here in hollywood, being a
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comfort in hollywood. well, took me a while to realize how bad it was. i had an early title to the book "black lifting mist," a ryer title and the publisher changed it to "turk right at hollywood and vine," but either way, -- at the beginning, i think that writers just should express what they feel. otherwise what is the point of writing go manufacture ball bearings or something. writing is about expression of where you're at. so i didn't think at the beginning people would be so offended, naive that i am. this age of twitter. where everybody wants to bite each other's head off. it's crazy. at that point it took me a while to realize what happened it and took me a while to hear back from my agent and manager and people like that, roger, you're
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losing money. and it was interesting because in case of a manager there, he was fairly sympathetic to what i was say, but like a lot of people in hollywood there was what the mafia refers to a code of silence. you don't say your opinion if you're -- unless of course you're clint eastwood in which case you're so famous so what are they going to do to you? most people are not that and almost all writers are not that. writers are in the ol' parlance of hollywood, schmucks with underwoods. now they're schmucks with apples. >> host: is the a cadre of conservatives in hollywood? oh, yeah. not entirely underground. there was an organization call the i friends of abe for a while that was very underground and
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then funnily underground. they had an event which 900 people went to the party it's was a secret. can you imagine in hollywood a big bash and a fancy house with 900 people being a secret? ridiculous. there will always a certain number of people -- in the old days of hollywood, not just ronald reagan but measurety and a whole bunch of others were conservatives. the original impulse of the hollywood movie was often conservative. i mean, i'm a yankee doodle dandy, on and on. it's not monolithic, and in the trump era there's strange dowd doubts gone ago so ail though trump is hated like poison ivy or worse, at the same time they realize there's a giant audience that is alienated.
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stockholders should be a little annoyed. >> host: sense you have been identified and self-identified as a conservative/lib be tarean or -- libertarian, as you put in your book, i know best. i'm a libertarian neocon. what? i resolved the contradiction this way, i'm a libertarian, mostly or often dong e domestically, and ann interventionist mostly or often internationally. >> guest: the think about becomes is the lag time. and i would say that i'm less of an interventionist than when i wrote that, although i think that, for example, i think trump did the right thing in syria. the didn't go very far which is go, but made it clear that we're america and we don't like people gassing people. hello. but domestically i'm very much on the libertarian camp because i think that change comes from
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the people themselves and from pulling themselves um. the really important stuff. that's what made this country great. >> host: since you have come out as a conservative, how has your work changed? what kind -- are you still doing screen plays, still working with the same producers. >> guest: no. i'm old enough -- a lot of the people i work with die. i mean, my great co lan operation with paul masirski is over because paul is over. a wonderful man but he would say to our friends, oh, god, i don't know what happened to roger, i think he's dead. i know he didn't mean it because he loved me, but is was a kind of jewish humor from new york that the practices was way of his expressing, i feel disappointed in you. but i was there the night -- the day he died as cedar sinai, i was with him in the room. not exactly when it happened but
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an hour or two before. and we are very close. but some people are not able to get past that. i mean, it's a across our culture, not just hollywood. something very bad has happened and it's very weird because i onthink of freud's famous narcissism of small differences. what is -- trump -- people don't like trump because the is a loud mouth, he tweets, insults people, blah blah blah. what has he actually done? he lowered taxes a little bit. he is negotiating with north korea for the first time. that's pretty good. the reality of it and what people attack him for are like different planet. but that's not to say the right is pure. they're not. but we are living in the bifurcated culture and you look around here, the l.a. festival
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of books this beautiful environment at usc and everybody is well-clothed and eating well. in the history of civilization, things couldn't be better. and yet we're going -- i mean, it's pretty strange. >> host: good afternoon and welcome to l.a., this is our last segment from "the los angeles times" book festival. our guest, screenwriter, author, founder of pj media, roger l. simon. we'll talk to him for a little longer but we want to put the phone lines up so you can participate in our from as well. 202 -- talk about conservatives and hollywood and political opinions and we're going to explore his a little bit more as well. 202-748-8200 if you live in the east and central time zone. 748-8201 for those of you in the mountain and pacific time zone. now, mr. simon, your most recent book is "i know best, how moral
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narcissism is destroying our republic. ", you spend quite a bit of time identifying what you believe is moral narcissism. >> guest: it is how so many people, largely, to be honest, on the left, but some on the right, too, identify themselves as being good because of what they believe. not because of what they do. in other words, as long as you say the right things, or what is culturally accepted as the right thing, whether the results of those are good or bad are immaterial. they're not even known. you see that everywhere and you see -- we have a country that has chose up sides, and we have so american moral narcissists. lately governor cuomo on television last night, i'm an
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undocumented worker. baloney. he's a son of a rich man and he has got more documents in the life than thomas jefferson. what he hell is he talking about? that's moral narcissism. now, after i wrote the book, people came up with the term called virtue signaling, which is similar but virtual signaling is what a moral narcissist does. they signal virtuous they are because they're moral mass cyst. in my -- narcissist. the nomen was the name, those people who lived high up in the soviet society, stalin was called comrade, filing cabinet because he has a list of all the
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people in the know know nomenclatura and -- who always thing the same way ordinarying could what they're supposed to think and therefore become part of that class. they're moral mass cysts. the entire russia collusion event, which happened while -- after the book, is a moral narcissistic idea because they all wanted their collusion but there was no collusion. if there were collusion, they're the worst detectives on the history of the planet. this is has been going on -- feels like it's been going on for a century with no evidence of collusion whatsoever. when obama included with russia, we all saw it on television. he went over to medvedev and said, tell vladimir after the election i'll be easier on missiles. it was on video. everybody so saw it.
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there's no evidence that trump included with russia. that's a lot of bad things to say about trump but that's not one of them. but moral narcissism meant you had to think a certain way there the entire media, cnn, cmbc, "new york times," "washington post," the front pages of "the wall street journal" spent the last year taking leaks and investigating something that wasn't in existence. it's not there. but it's more narcissism because you're part of the club, you're part of -- you're a respected person if you believe this. i use this -- an interesting line in the book from oscar hammerstein, a great writer, richard rogers and one of the greatest things is -- a song in pick niksch one line is, nothing so bad for a woman as man who thinks he is good. and then he chorus goes, taint
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so, and then, it's true. it is true. the minute you start to think you're good, you're not good, and this whole thing is us a these people think they're good and trump is bad. they're all the same. >> host: what are the other issues nat your view liberals believe that perhaps you disagree with? >> guest: that i can support -- >> host: that you disagree with. >> guest: i think as an ex-civil rights worker, i think that the approach to race has been dead wrong. i have a portion of that in -- >> host: i saw that. >> guest: there was an interview back in 2006 with morgan freeman, by wallace on "60 minutes." and he said to morgan freeman, what are you doing for black
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history month? and morgan freeman said, nothing. and he said what are you doing for american history month? and wallace says, nothing. and he said i'm jewish. he said what about jewish history month? want there to be jewish history month? and mike wallace said, no. so, then -- but then mike wallace says what do we do about race sim? and more began freeson said, how but you call me morgan and i call you mike. when i saw that, chills went down my -- all the years i was on demonstrating, that's the answer. but what happened in the recent years is we went back because people have nostalgia, i hate to use that word -- nostalgia for that's need to feel self-righteous but, oh, this is
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bad, and this is good. but the only open answer to racism is forget about it. people who -- when i say that to so people they say you can't forget, look at this and this and this. the more you talk about it, the more you create it. it's been interesting phenomenon. whereas if you just say, look at the city is, this disnothing more mull few cultural than los angeles. -- multicultural than los angeles. you can see it in the crowd around it. so who cares, forget about immigrant when i see "black lives matter" i recoil. why? that's not helping anything. it's really not. and the whole thing about there being a return of the klan. know how many people that is? 250. you know how big this country is? 330 million. will there always be 250 idiots like that? for sure. how do coo there not be. i mean, it's the human race.
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the answer is not give them attention. that exacerbates it. that's why the recent starbucks incident is -- no. let this stuff go away because most people are very good will about it. i know speaking for myself, when i was running pj media and hiring people, every person of color, minority or gay person or whatever came in, i was happy. i wanted to feel like good guy to hire them. that's perhaps unfair to the other guy really. i understand that. but that is the way most people are. and it should be accepted rather than dish mean, this old politics. was on the left. i was in every one of these things. knew everybody in the chicago seven. they were my friends. but it's over. forget about it. that was then. this is now. anyway, end of sermon. >> host: before we run out of time we want to make sure we get
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some calls in. we have some waiting for you. keith from delware, you're on with author and screen writer author simon. >> caller: mr. simon, thank you for appearing today on booktv you make any mention in your book "i know best" anything about david and charles koch and their views on things and libertarianism and so forth? >> host: what do you think of their viewed, keith? >> caller: um, i work for one of their companies for five years. and i don't particularly -- i'm not particularly in agreement with the way they see things. >> host: thank you, sir. >> guest: as i have said on the show already, and as our host has mentioned, too, i am
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libertarian. don't believe in any ideology completely because i think that's dangerous. you let hung by it. i think the koch brothers are very often misunderstood and it's interesting that they favor the gay marriage for a long time, and when i -- in liberal circles and they start attacking the koch brothers, say say to them they for gay marriage years and years before obama and there's a shocked look on their face and they don't believe me. i say go to google and look it up. >> host: mike is calling from north arlington, new jersey. good afternoon, mike. >> caller: good afternoon. my question has to do with political correctness. what is roger's opinion about political correctness and its effect on our culture, particularly in our universities
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and in as far as having intellectual dialogue of any worth? how does the feel about political correctness. >> guest: well, okay. i'll answer that very -- >> host: a big top good luck "i know best." >> guest: you bring up the university. i'm not going to get into it heavily but my wife and i are starting a company that in part deals with political correctness in the university. political correctness in the university issuant thought. the university is a place where chairman mao should rule. i know i'm being sarcastic, because chairman mao said let 100 schools of thought contend. and 100 flowers bloom and in our universities today only one school of thought contends. that's not good for education as i'm sure you would agree. >> host: you write about higher education, and moral narcissism. social science and humanities
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faculties are largely a collection of morally narcissistic yes men and women, students are forced to comply with their views in order to succeed or they do so automatically, assuming that is is fruitless to resist. >> guest: well, that's what i believe. i went to two august ivy league universities that i have visited again lately and they're not the same place is went. to i was a student protester. so go figure. something is odd. >> host: i don't know if you saw recently that reed college in portland, oregon, i dropping a lot of their year-long humanities classics course because it's too focused on white men. >> guest: yes, i know. it's awful. , los angeles not far from where we're sitting right now, you no longer have to read shakespeare or milton to get a degree in
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english. >> host: why is that a bad thing. >> guest: because there is such a thing as good and bad work. i hate to say it. the politically correct people don't agree but i would say that william shakespeare is probably the most talent human being whoer lived. i'm a writer and a little prejudiced and if you study literature and leave not read shakespeare, nor a nincompoop. it's like studying religion and not reading the bible. it's about that extreme. and i don't know. i mean, because he was a white man so what? i don't care. i think it's very interesting to read eugene -- written by a black russian. so i don't care whether they're white or black. i am a follower of xi ping, who
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said i don't care every cat is black or white, i only care if it catches mice. >> mentioned you're a scree jeter for bust n loose, what other kind of work did you do in hollywood? >> guest: i dade lot of work in hollywood that never got made. >> host: is that typical in hollywood. >> guest: very, very typical. particularly in the period i came here. one of the ones that did get made was rewritten slightly, a film called "a bert life" --" "a better life" that just came out and the lead actor was nominated for the academy award, and for this purposes i wrote it 20 years ago, under the title of the o'gardner," an american latino version of "the bicycle
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thief," a classic italian movie. i was going to direct it. i was standing on the set one day and in the money never showed. a typical story in hollywood. if you bemoan it then you're just kind of like a victimologist, and i think that is a very bad thing to be because people who come to hollywood and then complain about hollywood, where were they? didn't they read f scott films jerald residents the last tike con. -- tycoon. it's always been the same. >> host: like how. >> i have my -- i wrote enemies and people were saying it was the best adaptation ever and -- blah blah blah. i made a million dollars but
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part of me was saying, -- it lasted 20 minutes, and then an earlier investigation of that when i wrote "the big fix" and wrote the screen adaptation of my own book, it was a burst of that. i worked with richard pryor and unless your name is steven spielberg, it is not -- nowhere near as glammous as it used to be. now it's more drill industrialized. >> host: when your wildfire was starting a new company, higher education, political correctness, share your politics? >> guest: yes. we couldn't do that at the other university. definitely not a marriage made in heaven. it's not politically correct per
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se. it's a company that is going to try to open up the higher educational system through a variety of ideas. everybody should study marx, and anybody who has not read marx is uneducated and you have to -- make your judgment. >> host: bert from st. paul, minnesota, 0 go ahead. >> caller: hello. thank you for taking my call. can you hear me okay? >> host: go ahead. >> caller: i'm glad you can hear me. mr. simon, you said some very interesting things. i was a bit in a quandary about the title of the book bass moral narcissism can't imagine a bert example of being a moral narcissist than being a
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libertarian. that's about as morally narcissistic as i could possibly imagine. that's just one. another one. >> host: very quickly. >> guest: i understand a little bit. >> host: okay. go ahead. >> caller: okay. then the other one is, do you -- moral change for you, you say was 9/11. to me it was, too. now, i'm not going to get into a big argument about culpable and conspiracies. i just want to ask you, mr. simon, did you ever consider that the bush administration might have had some come miss any 9/11? i'll hang up and listen to what you have to say. >> host: libertarians as a moral narcissist. >> guest: first on lynnber
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tareanism. there's an element of moral narcissism in everything and i when i say i'm a libber tearian, i'm half a libertarian. i don't believe as i've written that adhering 100 force any ideology is not smart. there's a lot to learn from a lot of things. i really want -- want to nail me as a libertarian, go ahead. asking me whether the bushes were guilty about 9/11, i think absolutely not. and i think that conspiracy stuff, okay -- >> host: we'll try allen san mateo, california. >> caller: thank you, mr. simon. i have the inprogression, though i haven't read a lot of books is that movies and books depict
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both siding are right and left, and criticize the other side, and perhaps there are movies or books that don't do this, but given your bipartisan background, perhaps we need an author or movie author to produce some sort of fiction or nonfiction movie that actually has people who together or found a way to come together or think about coming together rather than to always emphasize fighting the other guy to death. thank you. >> guest: couldn't agree with you more. great quotes in the french filmmaker, and the quote is, everybody has his reasons.
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i've always believed that's true and the great fiction writing, all the characters have their reasons for being who they are. i think if we understand that, a lot of what you're talk us bit comes through. matter of fact, i'm always working on a book and i'm writing a novel now, and the novel could never be as -- >> host: from your book, i know best, political elitism -- see a situation that isn't there that they wish would be that would be continue with your world views and the fake news. >> i could be talking about the russian collusion. that's exactly what happened. i think in general, political elites have also -- here and
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everywhere, their primary -- >> guest: it's almost comical but it's sad. a lot of time and money was waisted. >> host: what was your ronald reagan contemporaneously and what is your opinion of him today? >> that's a great question.
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new original thought hi was a terrible right-winger and then i did -- i whoopee in hi hollywood press corps and i was never on the red carpet and i was walk welcomed into the press room by reagan's then- -- what is his name.
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sunny say, my god, he's good. he was wonderful with those kids. and the kid loved him. and i was going, wait a minute, something wrong here. this isn't the monster who said if you seen one red, you've seen it all, blah blah, and i realized that he was making a deal with gorbachev and the wall was coming down, and i got confused. now i -- you know, what's interesting but my life story than other people is, i'm willing to change. i was willing to change -- i'm willing to change back, if you can convince me i'm wrong again. it would be hearder but could i
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do it. >> host: frederick, port charlotte, florida, thank you for holding. you're on we author roger l. simon. >> caller: yes. i wanted to know what you think about the jim comey problem they're having right now and whether he is the insurance policy that lisa page and robert talk to were talking about in their tess -- text messages. >> guest: well, i've been follow that very carefully and been writing about it for pj media and real clear politics as well, and it's one of the interesting detectives -- ex-detective story writer it's one of the great detective stories of our time. why i won't read james comey's book. he he's got it right there. >> host: this is your column from pj media and with a quote up here at the top, absolutely
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nothing -- >> guest: i still believe that is true. except the -- i could learn a little bit more but the psychopathology about james comby. a very strange human being. it's interesting that people that strange can rise to those -- being the director of the fbi is a pretty powerful position in our country, as we know from days of j. edgar hoover, a very strength person. i don't think the man is honest. >> host: how did you get to hollywood? >> guest: earlier marriage, mary a girl from here who was a playwright with me at the yale school of drama. i wrote a novel while i was a student that was published much to the consternation of my fellow students. bought by the movies and almost
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made into a movie by alfred hitch cook, whichty age of 22 would have been a rather strange -- i'll tell you an amazing experience up i never read a screen play but hired to write them. this could never happen now. they just liked the dialogue in the novel. it is a very different place now. >> host: you came out their hollywood. >> guest: never left. >> host: you are going to stay here? >> guest: no. the time has come to leave. that doesn't mean i'm going to stop writing movies, books. i mean, i'm a writer to the core. it's my dna but you can do that anywhere on the planet. i think if you stay in one place for too long, you get a little stultified, and my wife and i are moving to nashville but i'm not going to become a country
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singer, i promise. >> host: when is this happening? should -- shortly. >> host: are you moving to tennessee because politically clear more intuned with people in tennessee. >> guest: i think to some extent to be honest, and i'll be honest on c-span, why not. i've lived here at odds with many of my neighbors for quite a while. i am doing it more for -- deeper reasons than that. it's a straining compare -- strange comparison, they say after years after using the mouse with your right hand, use your left hand my neural pathways here are circumdescribed forreses and that happens to people when they grow older and just want to break it up. nashville is a go-go place. it's not exclusively -- it's very mixed politically.
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but very go go and i like that. i like action. the part but a l.a. i like is the action of l.a. >> host: greg from illinois. go laid. >> caller: hi, roger. i'm a big fan of pj immediate mayor it's my go-to site every morning. so it's a real pleasure to speak with you. >> guest: thank you. >> to be honest with you i've gotten very bored with hollywood. there's nothing to see that's new. the movies are predictable, they're boring, the gci stuff is boring to no end. books these days are somewhat of the same category, many of them are formula writtenment you know what's going to happen before you read it. the characters may change. circumstances may change.
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but the plot remains the same sort of a thing. anyway, one of my -- you're talk us about the rich probe. one guy has been doing a really good job on this is lee something i. anyway, who some of your favorite authors you like to read? thank you. >> host: thanks. greg in illinois. >> guest: well, i have to say that i share your admiration for lee smith, who is a friend of mine. i think he is writing some of the most interesting political material in the country today no question. on the other larger issue of movies and books getting repetitive boring, if the -- i don't think it's entirely true. some truth. but the other problemes us a you grow older dish know this for myself. i ahead to admit it. i've seen so many movies now that when i -- i know what's going to happen because i've
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been down the road myself so many times, i'm the worst critic. when people ask me, should i see this movie, i say, don't ask me. i get them all because i'm a member of the example they come every year in dvd form to all academy members to vote, and it's like the sorcerer's apprentice. certain days, the doorbell will jung the fedex guy has 30 movies and i don't want to see them anymore. of course you call your friends and you say, is this one worth seeing? because nobody watches them all. i can't believe if they do. >> host: are you a voting member of the academy?the came award -- the academy awards and oscars have in the news bus of of political correctness. >> guest: oscar is so white.
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>> host: what do you think of that. >> guest: it's a system of -- a stomp of our times. -- symptom of our times. everybody has become like that. i'm just bored. hate to say that. if someone wants to attack my for my white skin privileges, this finger was broken in the silverado rights movement. all right. what did you do? i think it's all counterproductive. because as long as i've been a member of the academy, which is actually since 1985, it's been opening to minorities. no want more of a hero to the academy than sidney portier. who doesn't want that. i mean, it a great talent but the idea of putting quotas on how many -- what race is in the
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academy, it's stupid. why not just make it but who made a good movie last year. that's what it's supposed to be about and if it's all black people, great. if it's all white people, great. if it's all chinese, great. let it be. it is -- we're living in this situation where we're obsessed with this stuff. >> host: roger simon's books, turning right at hollywood and vine, and i know best, and carl is in joshua tree, california. and you're on booktv. >> guest: are you camping? >> caller: i've been really -- enjoying this, and i just -- i would like to know, mr. simon's definition of what political correctness is, this term that's been thrown around for decades, and yet nobody can really tell
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me what it is it seems to me that politically correct is not insulting people. i'll take the answer off the air. >> host: good question. >> guest: good question. first of all, if that's politically correct, i'm not for it because i think it's fine to insult people like bashar al-assad or hitler. i'm note going to insult you, nor die want to insult peter. i think politically -- what people react against in political correctness is the sort of enforce thought. it's the thought police. you can't say one thing because it's not the right thing, in quote is. not right wing but the right thing this way, and that's not good. that's the enemy of the truth.
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assuming there is a truth. i'm not getting into that. but we can get closer to the truth, and the truth of the matter is, political correctness is the enemy of it. just enforced like to out of orwell, my favorite writer after shakespeare. >> host: stewart, mechanics mechanicsville, georgia. go ahead . >> was reading a book and also watching you at the same time. i put down my book. i'm smoking a pipe so that's not correct, either. but i've been listening to you, and by the way, i spent some time at fort campbell, kentucky. hop, skip and a jump from nashville. you'll enjoy nashville. but -- >> guest: thank you. >> caller: here's my point, sir. obviously i'm a male, i'm white, and i speak with a southern accent.
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when i call into program is think 90% of the public already assume i'm a racist and that's the furthest thing from the truth. do you think that is -- >> guest: i'm really -- >> caller: excuse me? >> guest: i say that's very sad they do that. i'll say something else itches was in the civil rights movement in south carolina in the '60s, and i went back to south carolina more recently, covering the political campaigns for pj media. i was in charleston and i was struck by something rather amazing. i saw more mixed couples in the bar in charleston than i saginaw l.a. and new york. i think it's interesting. i think the south has more -- made more racial peace than the north. i don't know how that happened but it did. i think part of it is that
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people knew each other better. >> host: all right. charles, lexton, virginia. you have 30 seconds. you get the last. >> caller: thank you. mr. simon, a quick question. i think at been true of hollywood since the days of d.w. griffith, people on all end the political spectrum, left and right, strongly articulating their viewpoint. what happened in the last 20 for years that the conservative side of that spectrum has largely differ appeared. why don't we hear from the conservatives anymore? >> host: in hollywood. >> guest: yep. >> host: thank you, charles. >> guest: my generation, we're at fault. i tell you why. it's 1968 was a seminal year in a lot of people's thinking and since '68, hollywood gradually switched over to becoming a left-wing mouthpiece, and it was a product of my generation.
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i'm a '68 guy who went south on '68. for a long time i was a '68 guy, and we all came to take over hollywood. that's how it happened. >> host: roger l. simon has been our guest. his most recent book ex-"i know best: how moral narcissism is destroying our republic if it hasn't already." thank you were being on booktv. >> guest: great fun. thank you. >> this weekend the c-span cities tour takes you to tyler, texas. today at noon eastern on booktv. author robert stirkin discusses his book but the life of former texas governor and state senator, bill ratliff. >> everything he did in the senate was in a problem-solving mode how to fix this fog for
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texans, make this better. he did that without ideology getting in the way. without partisanship getting in in the way. that made him well -- greatly loved in austin. he was dish mean, hand down, both parties, he was person people could work with. >> on sunday, at 2:00 p.m. eastern, on american history tv. we visit with bobby evans, former engineer for the tyler district, texas department of transportation, and the father of the adopt-a-highway program. >> 1984 we took a trip to south dakota in a highway meeting and i had to gave speech to a civic cub, already club, and i said i challenge you adopt a highway to get rid of the obscenity of litter. of course that was just a part of my speech and i didn't expect nobody jump up and do anything, but the more i thought about that, that might be something we
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could try. >> then we'll visit the smith county historical society to hear about the history of race at robert e. lee high school. >> the school board, all white, decided to name the school robert e. lee high school which the white community says this is to honor our past, our history, and tyler has a rich history tied to the confederacy but in black community, this was a thumb in their eye and a gesture of defiance. >> watch c-span's cities tour of tyler, texas, today at noon eastern on c-span 2's booktv. and sudden, at 2:00 p.m., on american history tv on c-span3. working with our cable affiliates as we explore america. >> so much of it is about how
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wimper severe differently than -- women persevere differently than men. we are get out together. how do we turn that into a strategic advantage and make it more bad-assing my instead of a burden. >> i hadn't thought about it -- i hadn't thought about that at a metta level. i have certainly experienced in this has year and a half women having each other's backs in a way that's like remarkable. people used to say, oh, women's -- how can you -- >> in the bleep grabber, right? >> evidently it is, but nikole has been a good friend of mine.
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-- when president obama had to go back to iraq because of isis, nikole reached out and said, let me explain to you, here's the people you have to call every day so somebody doesn't say something crazy in the hallway when casey hunt checks in with them at a standup. and nicolle could have said, president obama didn't take care of iraq. sure talked about it a lot. just like the same situation i'm in and let me reach out and help you. that is like what i love about women, and what i find now in my experience with this book, every single woman i said, can you help me. it was like, yes, how can i help your wendy davis who ran for governor in texas, she's, i'm doing this, can you help me? yes. you should be connected with this person or that person. a main -- amanda whether itman
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started one for something, recruiting millenials, and what do we need doo to help amanda. i find women are all in it in a way, and there's no, like, my project or -- this is explain that -- don't touch it or it's just people are like, what can we do to support each other and what can we do to fight back, and it's like remarkably -- you have this sense that the workplace can be competitive maybe because it's always been dominated by men, and women are more collaborative in a world like we are in today, that is so globally connect. and collaboration is in cooperation is more and more important. i hope we have a woman president but i feel like it's different and that's what is happening with women. >> seems like men are onboard, too, and you don't exclude them from part of your story of success, and i --
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>> yeah. >> -- elevated more women than i think any news norths the -- organization in the country and they're more afraid of us because we're -- well, we're women. so, do you feel -- just want to end on what can hang on to. >> i feel -- i did feel that -- i have had in my own life, i had amazing male bosses and male mentors and friends and particularly in the clinton white house, which i was younger and the guys in charge were older than me and really helped me a lot, but i just feel that in this -- i thought we had equality issue thought we were good, so i'm disappointed to see we have more work to do, but it's so inspiring to see it can be not just what we hoped women could achieve. it's like actually something more interesting because we're
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doing it in a different way and doing it our way. so, that means politics is going to be different and i think -- and how we engage with the other community is different and not something i had seen or expected so might take a little longer but it's going to be i think ultimately for men and women both, going to be more fulfilling. >> you can watch them and other programs online at >> for nearly 20 years, "in depth" has feature the nation's best known nonfiction writers for live conversations about their books. this year is a special project, we're featuring best-selling writers for "in depth" fiction. we have the book "the fallen." other novels include end game,
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the fix, absolute power, which became major motion picture. plus over 30 novels. written six novels for younger readers which include the finisher, the keeper, and the width of the world. during the program we'll be take your phone called, tweets and facebook messages. ... >> located 100 miles southeast of dallas, tyler is known as the rose capital of america with a population of about 105,000. as we traveled around the city, we'll visit the university of texas at tyler where we'll hear from an author who shares the story of texas lieutenant governor and state senator bill ratliff. >> his stature rests on


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