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tv   Campaign 2018 Colorado Governors Debate  CSPAN  October 8, 2018 8:35pm-9:35pm EDT

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five topics included economic development in rural areas transportation public schools health care in illegal immigration. >> welcome to colorado macy university in grand junction with a debate between the gubernatorial candidates. we have jared polis for the
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second congressional district and republican walker stapleton who is currently the state treasurer. i am managing editor at rocky mountain lb questioning the candidates tonight and a veteran political reporter spending years covering the legislature and the former executive editor now adjunct lecturer here advisor for the student newspaper tonight's debate will focus on issues important to rural colorado the candidates have agreed to the following rules each will have one minute to answer the questions and to respond to the opponent if necessary moderators have the option to ask the follow-up question each candidate has 30 seconds for the follow-up the timekeeper will signal with ten seconds remaining the candidate can finish the sentence but the moderator
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will interrupt when the time is up. each candidate has 90 seconds for a closing statement. they can have notes but no props. we have invited guest and we ask if you were in the hall you refrain from participating in the debate. you are to listen not to applaud or cheer or voice approval or disapproval so prior to the debate we solicited questions from around the state and you will hear some of those tonight and my previous toss of the coin mister stapleton will be asked the first question. economic development and rural area with the front range urban core door is getting richer by the rural core doors are getting poorer. two thirds of earl counties are designated as economically distressed and eligible for incentives but taxpayer-funded incentives to attract companies to the states are focused on the front range.
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if elected which new and specific steps would you take to increase incentives for companies to relocate in rural colorado and be specific. >>stapleton: i am glad to - - pleased to be here in grand junction and plan to be back moore's governor the next governor of colorado needs to be an economic plan to put colorado first you don't just put the metro area first but all of colorado i will work with the governor's office of economic development to be sure that businesses are given that opportunity to locate here on the western slope to the eastern plains and that is why i was one of the earliest supporters of the president's economic plan with more than 120 economic bills or economic opportunities creating for the state of colorado half of those are in rural areas of colorado. this is in sharp contrast to my opponent who entered
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federal legislation a few months ago to repeal the tax plan to take those economic opportunities away from colorado. he represents the most extreme candidate in history. >> host: your one minute is up. >>polis: thank you president foster and go mavericks. also the daily sentinel and rocky mountain pbs also the needed rain that is needed here. with a state wide economic development plan as part of the challenge to make sure no matter where you live in colorado you create opportunities we have a plan for rural broadband and connectivity to have independent employment not just high skilled jobs but also high school degrees in entrepreneurs and architects to work in those communities in protecting the industries by protecting public lands we
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are in western colorado to make sure that every child has access to the educational opportunity to prepare them for success whether for your college or two years or the apprenticeship. >> host: a follow up. i heard you both talk about broad generalities but i haven't heard you say what initiative you would envision specifically to bring economic development to rural areas. >>stapleton: one of the things i would focus on is the jordan project which is a program to bring enough natural gas into the basin to power california for the next 50 years in the project that has the support of governor hickenlooper and those senators that he has refusing to support this project it would be transformational and this is another example why he is extreme not mainstream.
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>>polis: i will not use the project in oregon not to have a western colorado strategy there may be a few more jobs here but that is not an excuse not to act now. i cofounded a boot camp to help veterans get bills to start jobs but also in a co- working space here in grand junction also capital formation and the mentor ships to help companies start right here in rural colorado. >> everyone in colorado needs water it is a bipartisan issue in the current state water plan calls for more than $100 million in spending just for storage and conservation. how does that balance the need of farmers and ranchers in western colorado with urban growth on the front range? how do you go about to pay for that and please be specific.
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>>polis: the estate took care of this with a step forward with governor hickenlooper efforts to put our very first water plant. as a matter of principle representing the western slope communities i will oppose any transmountain diversion and i support water storage as an overall solution from conservation was suburban and urban areas as well as those incentives to profit from conserving water. we all need to work together to ensure we have the water infrastructure not just where our state is today but in ten years and 20 years not just the agricultural heritage but family farmers and the growing metropolitan areas.
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>>stapleton: the water future is the lifeblood that all of us want to have we went to put our water plants first we fully support the water plant it will cost approximately $100 million per year to prioritize that as a budget item that we will focus on during my time as governor. this is another issue where we have vast differences with jared polis and i expressed my desire he said he wanted to look at alternative storage i am not sure where and i said we needed to clean out existing areas. i also recognize the contributions of the largest provider of water conservation efforts in the past history for fracking with that revenue source to put that in jeopardy that is a water plant that the governor himself is called radical.
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>> next question. the displaced water from rural to urban has been going on for years because of the rapid growth on the front range without consideration for water resources so when farmers and ranchers cannot continue to operate they sell water rights to others including the front range without water the land goes dry in the stretches where the buy and dry cycle so where do you work to stop this practice and how would you do that? >>stapleton: transfer has worked for a lot of farmers in the colorado farm bureau decided to endorse me to bring $40 billion of economic development annually to provide 170,000 jobs. we need to harness the power of technology when it comes to water storage. i don't want to do what congressman polis want to do run the industry out of colorado to cost us 230,000 collective jobs and $32 billion of economic and - - impact he chose a couple
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years ago to bankroll the setback of 2000 feet against the energy industry the governor had to plead with him not to do that that is why he called it radical you cannot have a water future in colorado without a collaborative industry to put colorado first. >>polis: you will hear the words radical a lot from mister stapleton i am focused on bipartisan issues water and energy is not republican or democratic it is hard to align over time relying on commodities pricing with international markets so yes it is an important funding source yes i strongly opposed 112 want to make sure we have a thriving industry but also a diverse economy in western colorado. water is incredibly important
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it's great for farmers to have alternatives to avoid having to sell water rights and lease on a short-term basis or encourage best practices to make sure there is more water efficiency at the same time with alternative crops and new technology and some are looking right here. >> as a follow-up so if you stop that practice what would you do? . >> it's up to individual farmers will i force them? of course, not i want alternative vehicles they can recognize from reducing water usage to use it or lose it concept creates a perverse incentive for farmers to use more water even if it doesn't
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increase their sufficiency we can support family farms better to make sure they are rewarded for best practices. >> one of the ways you help water in colorado is support the northern integrated supply project the most important in northern colorado with bipartisan support with a ten year environmental review and congressman polis steadfastly refuses to support that and i don't know why you should join the bipartisan leadership team to join the project it is another example not in the mainstream not putting colorado first but putting washington first. >> host: next question mister stapleton, talk about the jordan cove project that is to export liquefied natural gas from oregon to the asian
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markets that brings a lot of money into colorado and other parts of the country grand junction resident asks do you support that project including considering increased water issues? that is one element of local impact do you support this and how should it be managed? . >> >>stapleton: absolutely support this project it will be transformational from western colorado. we have a great bipartisan leadership team i invite congressman polis to join. we have enough natural gas reserves to power the state of california the next 50 years one of the four companies that have signed up for this project i have met with
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leaders in asia and the demand is there but this will raise all boats economically in colorado. congressman polis issues are pretty radical as governor hickenlooper has said out of the mainstream of his party and will not put western colorado values first. i hope he will change his mind tonight be here steadfastly refused even though it has been studied and greenlighted by the federal government. >>polis: i have the most moderate voting record from all three democrats if you never vote for one you might not vote for me but if you want one with a business background creating hundreds of jobs, other start companies, helping colorado work for everybody i'm your candidate. this is where the integrated supply project my role as a congressman and as a governor it will be that it benefits colorado not just oregon i want to make sure those were
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created in colorado it is shortsighted to give away your negotiating leverage as a cheerleader when you can help mold the project to make sure we don't have work crews coming in from other states but to employ coloradans for those jobs but most importantly that cannot be seen as an excuse not to have a strategy. i have one and we will make western colorado work for you. >> host: follow up. talk about local impact as one element. neither of you have address that what measures would you support that local communities have a voice in this development? >>polis: i have been very outspoken to make sure those decisions have local inputs we shape them on the ground there is a big difference between walker stapleton and i. i oppose amendment 74 to put
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huge liabilities on cities and counties just for doing their work and integrating communities to formalize the degree of local control and those perimeters around extraction and industrialized activities that a lot of it exist in a gray area. >> host: your time is up mister stapleton. the initiative to get local communities a voice. >>stapleton: you are darn right we have a voice. i supported every energy policy that every governor has supported collaboratively in a bipartisan way. western colorado is in awesome example of outdoor industry working with energy to bring projects to colorado we achieved more work putting colorado first and then to battle that industr
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industry. >> you have said you went all power to come from renewable energy sources by 2040 but no oil or gas sources. mister stapleton you have not specified with the energy goal should be. what would each of you do to set aside the rhetoric and the politics to take specific steps that our reasonable and realistic goals for colorado and how do you reach across the aisle and focus on the point how do you reach across to focus on this? . >> i am the only candidate with all of the above energy policy wind, solar, natural gas and oil but congressman polis envisions a colorado with zero fossil fuel. and i was born that was
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83 percent of energy and now today it is 83 percent of energy production if you talk to the experts they will tell you once you get to 65 or 70 percent renewables, it is a lot of diminishing returns the capital invested cannot compensate for the fact that the sun does not shine 247 if though brenda does not blow i am not for mandates that he would put those for heating their homes and turning on the lights tat is misrepresenting my plans more than he talks about his own i have never supported 100 percent mandate but to do that we will reach across the aisle with a conservative republican making it on federal land and to make it easier on the state land to
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expedite the red tape so let's raise the cap on the solar gardens with make sure people are compensated to enable them to invest let's work with utilities commission 100 percent renewable to reduce the savings for all consumers it will take 20 percent less to build a wind energy more than existing coal right now. >> i appreciate you restating your platforms but how do you reach across the aisle is the question and make the policy to be accepted by everybody? >>polis: again, i have. worked with the most conservative republicans of the united states congress and i supported a bill like from
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loveland that is one aspect of my plan and governor hickenlooper already signed we have ten more to go mostar bipartisan cutting red tape and reducing costs to make sure those renewable energy projects have cheaper clean energy and to do our part on climate. >> during the last congressional testimony voted 94 percent of the time with nancy pelosi. i need a governor that's more than 6 percent bipartisan but governor hickenlooper and the governor before him supported and also governor hickenlooper the 1000-foot setback would cost the energy energy policy $45 billion that is 60 percent of the entire budget. >> but you have the extreme radical energy position.
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>> and the state budget increase funding for education is against the need for transportation. the proposed amendment 73 with more than one and a half billion dollars annually to support programs for education. do you support it and why? . >> i do not supported it is a progressive tax and as the father of three kids and want to make sure every dollar we ask coloradans to invest in education lines up in the classroom where it belongs and then to be siphoned off to prepare those obligations and the pension system and if you look across the school district we find the number of students has grown by 6 percent. the number of teachers by 8 percent and until we get the
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problem under control with transparency and accountability we all need investors in the future education system we don't just ask taxpayers for the increase it is wrong and misguided congressman polis has no way to find the obligations in the future because he will bankrupt colorado's economy. >>polis: not only created businesses and hundreds of jobs but also superintendent of a successful charter school and three schools that have expanded into new mexico i bring the expertise to having chaired a bipartisan school also helping to write the law and then to give more flexibility so congratulations to mesa county voters for passing that last year. taking a position on 73 and
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that is up to the voters. and have investment in the public schools as a top priority for expenditures to make sure every child has access to preschool and kindergarten. to have a radical idea if it's not too radical for oklahoma i think we deserve that for colorado. . >> each of you have a different vision of public education. congressman polis you said hundreds of millions of dollars on preschool and kindergarten for all colorado children. mister stapleton talks about school vouchers and charter schools so essentially we have enough money for education we just need to spend it more wisely yet no one is convinced the legislature to take either position once again how do you reach across the aisle for the stalemate? please me as specific as you
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ca can. >>polis: preschool and kindergarten funding is not partisan if you have a four -year-old or five -year-old all we have is half day kindergarten in a wealthy state like colorado and a number of other states do but the public private partnerships like westminster school district has implemented universal kindergarten and half-day preschool for all of their kids today. me as preschool and kindergarten result in lower special education rates and lower grade reputation --dash rates. right now we only have half-day kindergarten. guess what if you are very low income we have just a few preschool spots if you are wealthy we can afford that for our kids a guess who was left behind? the middle class know that the middle class first in colorado. >>stapleton: i'm so glad you
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mentioned pay for success that is a program that i worked on with the treasurer's office in a bipartisan way to get through a republican-controlled senate. . . . .
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democratic controlled legislature to hire private-sector companies and part of the compensation was based on the cost savings they brought to the school districts in colorado. this is a bipartisan provide was involved with as treasurer and i will continue to find bipartisan ways to make sure we have more dollars in the classroom and improve the teacher ratio. >> goowith the example you gaves to reach across the aisle? >> every student succeeds act replaced no child left behind and passed overwhelmingly with a majority of republicans and democrats. i chaired the bipartisan state board of education is evenly
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divided between democrats and republicans. they chose the vice chair and chair of the board to represent. schooschool board and superintet doesn't mean they are not political but they are not partisan. allocating 40% of the money to local governments and proposition 109 up to $1.3 billion of bonds which would be on the front range and require them to apply $260 million a year to the bonds the last 20 years. what proposal if either would you support and why?
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>> i'm strongly against 109 which walker was the unit creates billions of dollars for the state and the western colorado residents in the funding for education and window state enters a recession to be absolutely devastating to every other budget priority. 110 is a legitimate effort by many other groups to find a dedicated funding mechanism. if they fail to look forward to building a statewide coalition of republicans, democrats, business communities and rural colorado for a cohesive approach to meeting our infrastructure needs across the entire state. >> i support 109 because the onus of responsibility should be on state government. we have the dollars in the fund and i want t wanted the responsy
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in the next governor's hand for finding the need to take the economy forward to the 21st century without soaking the taxpayers for another tax increase. the other reason i don't support 110. they utilize the public transit which i think are totally cool and i am a biker myself. for the bridges and roads he has no way to pay for it. i do. thank you. >> as a follow-up. where do you put the
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$260 million a year to pay for it lacks >> i talk about three different dedicated sources of revenue i want to bring to transportation. number one is my support for the federal tax plan because federal tax plan we were able to appropriate $225 millio $225 mie general fund. there is a 50 billion-dollar industry with 15%. number three, i talked about the broken medical marijuana system that has a 15% security. >> you are out of time now. >> i think we can find money. >> even if colorado gaming work to produce the same revenue as it would take 600 years for the revenue infrastructure. if they want to change that, they can but it's not enough revenue for the road.
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if those initiatives fail this november you are going to need a governor who can conven convenid people together and unite. not somebody interested i in name-calling with somebody that unites people so that we can solve the issue. we spend a lot of time in colorado talking about the north and south corridor and its importance for the state and particularly for the central area commuters. what about the east and west corner door or highway 50. these and others are the lifeline and as governor, what would you do to strengthen the infrastructure between eastern and western colorado? >> i was able to work with scott to stand o send on the last fils the mate highway 70 west of the divide all the way to utah as a high priority opening up the
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judicial funding streams. i also worked to get the funding for domestic fire suppression system and the eisenhower tunnel having represented communities on both sides. highway 70 is not just a critical for those who live here but it's one of the most important economic arteries in the entire communities and many jobs in grand junction depend on highway 70. i'm committed to make sure we use what we can the best we can with reversible lanes for the high-traffic areas during peak. as well as making sure we work to get funding for the federal government to make sure we can make the improvements we need to make it more manageable. i think it's important colorado have a governor that recognizes i 25 and i 70 are the lifeblood of colorado. congressman polis, his view is 36 connecting denver and boulder. my view is licensing the goes far beyond and we need to fund i
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70 and 25. i didn't have time to say this in the last question that one of the things we worked on that is in an office as opposed to the others about six to eight other mountain states, we found out that if we can spend with the other six mountain states around us to spend on maintenance and other costs per mile, we have an extra $60 million approximately. this is a creative idea that takes leadership from the governor's office in the past promising things with no way to pay for them, loading up the stage with debt and empty government promises like he wants to do. he proposed $90 million tripling the obligations it doesn't have a single way to pay for it. >> one more follow-up on transportation. both of those ballot measures do not have come as you may well know the legislature put another measure on next year's ballot, 2012019, to issue up to
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$2.6 billion. maybe it was less than that. it would automatically go to the ballot next year. one of you with the governor. would you try to support that or change that, mr. stapleton? >> more transportation blacks know, it's not going to be enough and that is why we need more to come up with the general fund. he hasn't come up with a single one. i will make the funding transportation permit colorado the number one priority of my administration and one way will be finding more attainable housing. i say attainable versus affordable because what may be affordable for somebody in the metro may not be affordable for somebody in western colorado. both are linked to have a plan to the colorado first -- >> thank you. >> i find it ironic that walker accuses me when he's the only one supporting the initiative to put the state $3 billion more in depth without more revenue. i would like to find a better deal working with republicans
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and democrats. we need to find why 109 and 110 failed. we need to figure out a plan. there's the low hanging fruit to have the traffic going eastward, people that can fly into the airport with improvements from california and texas to visit the high country there's therea whole another corridor with great potential. >> now we are going to switch gears over to healthcare. we have a specific question for each of you and i will ask the first one of mr. polis. you've advocated for the single-payer system such as medicare for everyone in the state and the country. how would colorado taxpayers foot the bill to cost hundreds of millions of dollars, mr. polis? >> i've supported health. we've covered over most costly, high cost populations were elderly. we should have a basic level of care for everybody. my golden healthcare is to save color out of money. i started companies have created
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hundreds of jobs. as i listed the small businesses across the state it's usually one of the first for second things out of their mouth, the high cost of healthcare. we have a plan to address that and we want to model medicaid after systems like arkansas which have been proven to reduce cost by 20 to 30%. we want to create a plan for the highest cost pieces to prevent them from driving up the business individuals. we have a plan to address the price disparity is ravaging western colorado. sometimes 30, 40, 50% more by reconfiguring the pricing zones to make sure we have close. we have a 100 day plan to work with republicans and democrats to save money on healthcare andd expand coverage. >> mr. stapleton. >> i couldn't disagree. one of the bipartisan things i've done in proud of is i worked with a democratic governor to defeat an amendment 69, government led healthcare. we worked across party lines
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because we understood the associated payroll tax was going to need 10% or more on all business and the cost was going to be at least $25 billion in because it would result in even less rural area doctors and pervasive underpayment to doctors and physicians assistants. now less than two years later, congressman polis is proposing an extreme and radical form of healthcare that the former governor of colorado and i worked to defeat feverishly less than two years ago. his health-care plan is more expensive for colorado and it will result in longer lines for the people that can least afford it. we've already had 70% premium increases over the last three years and it isn't compassionate, is cruel and it will make it worse in colorado. >> mr. stapleton, you talked about reducing 1.4 million people who oversee the benefits because it's taking money away from schools and roads. how would you reduce the state paid medicaid benefits without endangering the hospitals and health-care providers,
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particularly in rural areas that depend on this program to keep their doors open and provide services to those that otherwise couldn't afford it? how can you cut these benefits have been hurt rural colorado? >> i never settling for reducing the medicaid will pay 1.4 million people. we have a moral obligation for medicaid because half of the medicaid population are kids even though they only represent about a quarter of the cost. so what i would do is i would work with companies like this with federal state government agencies, with dhs, which is the regulatory system for healthcare nonprofits to actually do a better job of administering medicaid rollout. we've had issues with fraud and abuse and people that qualified bishop and qualify. the only way we are going to fix this is to have all of the agencies involved collaboratively work on the front lines of how to make the system better for young people to mold people come as a people,
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that is the plan i want to enact. i don't want to drive the medicare off the cliff and i said i would never support 1.4 million people being taken off the medicaid rolls. >> mr. polis. >> a playeapparently the plan is allowing colorado families to have healthcare. he mentioned bill ritter four times, was a supporter of me and is campaigning for me. he mentioned vacantly purring with supporting me and is campaigning for me. we need to reduce the cost in colorado anandcolorado and yes h defending what we have. we need to defend the medicaid expansion. if the medicaid expansion were eliminated and walker talked about phasing it out, not only does that go up to 400,000 often in healthealthcare they have tot it drives up the cost for the rest of us because we are meeting the high cost of the uncompensated characters of the cost shifting. we are paying more. so yes we will use the bundled payment systems which have been proven in states like arkansas
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to save 20 to 30% and we will pass the savings along to you and save your famil take your fn healthcare. >> a follow-up here, do you support production of medicaid extension? is that true? >> i support making the current system better so that we can improve access and affordability to the system that we have. i support getting a federal waiver from the federal government so the young people can have plans with high deductibles and less premiums because they are healthy more often. they don't support as the congressman polis's plan to make access to lifesaving drugs for critically ill people and children. i have a friend who lives right here in grand junction with a daughter whose shots cost $10,000 of recorder under congressman polis's plan she wouldn't have access to the medication. that is cruel and it will result in less quality care in colorado. >> thank you. my time is the opposite of everything he said. we want to take on the colorado drug companies because we are tired of being ripped off on
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prescription drugs. your friend, walker, and my friends shouldn't be forced to pay five to ten times as much as our friends in canada or germany or other countries. we support allowing reimportation of drugs, preventing price gouging for the drug companies, taking on the big pharmaceuticals to save you money on healthcare. >> may i respond to that, please? >> we are going onto the next question. on the immigration rules and economic development, the current federal government cuts down on a number of temporary visas for agricultural and service workers known as h2 a. and h. two b.. how can u.s. governor knowing this is a federal issue how can you tourism business as gifts the legal workers they need to do the job that few americans won't? mr. polis is up. >> i am a strong supporter had worked with the agricultural industry and i worked with scott tipton and others on making sure we have a strong h2b program
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people can get back workers become seasonally. of course we need an overall fix with regards to the broken system. in the meantime we shouldn't make small businesses, farmers and the construction industry and others pay the price. as governor i will make sure i stand for all of colorado and make sure we have an immigration policy that reflects the fact that we are a nation of immigrants and a nation of law. the two are and must be reconciled in the federal level. as governor, i will stand up for all coloradans and that the president of either party know that we need to put colorado first in the picture we have access to the people we know to help grow our economy and help coloradans must just get by, but thrive. >> mr. stapleton. >> we need to have a colorado that is welcoming to immigrants. it is why i said that i support the dreamers. it's a federal issue that needs to be resolved. i support the visas that are important for the agricultural industry and i also support the
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ja one visas that allow students from south american countries to come to colorado primarily for 90 to 120 days and a lot of them end up working in the ski industry where there's a chronic housing shortage or 90 or 120 day period that is a 50,000-dollar, 50 million-dollar -- 50 million -- i got it. i feel like a kid in a spelling bee. and so i think that colorado wants a governor that is going to work with the president when it benefits colorado and is going to stand up on the misguided federal policy. >> thank you mr. stapleton. >> mr. stapleton, when the federal government reduces the number of the legal foreign worker visas, it very well could force employers to seek illegal help the farmers and ranchers need to stay in business.
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would you cooperate with the current administration to seek out undocumented workers and areas for deportation? >> no, i will not. that is in the jo isn't the jobe governor, that is the job of the government. we had a broken policy that has existed many times. congressman polis has been in washington for ten years and republicans and democrats are complicit in not fixing the policy. i disagree with congressman polis on the party platform in this election making colorado a sanctuary state. i define a sanctuary city as somebody who has entered this country illegally and committed a felony, and i don't think law and order officials should be facing legal jeopardy for trying to keep people in jail to keep their communities safe like they are doing right now because we don't have a good foreign policy that has the support that we should have four sheriffs and first responders and those on the frontlines of keeping the community safe. >> mr. polis. >> first of all, i'm not for
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colorado being a sanctuary state, even during the democratic primary none of the democrats running for governor were for that. what im for is empowering local wall enforcement to keep communities safe. i respect local control through sheriffs office and police departments and we need to make sure with limited resources they have, they are able to keep us safe command of the present those that have large immigrant communities so the crimes were reported and prosecuted rather than hit him becaus hitting bect quotation beneath the -- deportation. i will stand up to this present or any president in washington who wants to commandeer the local law enforcement to enforce their broken washington policies rather than the local community priorities. >> mr. polis, just so i understand and this is yes or no. i understood mr. stapleton said he wouldn't support seeking undocumented workers in areas for deportation. >> correct, that is not the job of the --
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>> so you agree. we have another follow-up. we have had the federal government talk about financial sanctions and sanctions against cities and agencies who don't help federal immigration authorities. what you support that, mr. stapleton? >> i would support a governor's ability to end sanctuary cities in colorado. so we had a uniform policy that has the back of sheriffs and police officers that are trying so desperately to keep communities safe. we shouldn't have said they did commit a felony that entered illegally be released from jail in less than 12 hours that doesn't make sense. even though congressman polis said he agrees with me on this, his party's platform is to make colorado a sanctuary state. so if you felt so strongly about it i think you a lift to the law enforcement to have the party change its party platform. >> that is the difference between us you might beholden to the party but i am an independent thinker, job creator and someone that is going to take on both parties to get
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things right. you have even attacked me for supporting or i'm sorry, opposing efforts that would penalize the cities for their own law enforcement decisions. of course i'm against the federal government coming after legal marijuana and finding cities. i'm against washington, d.c. extending their power and that is why i'm running for governor. i support an independent colorado and i'm willing to take on both parties. >> we are running out of time so i want to give you 30 seconds on each. this is a mental health question. sheriffs in colorado will tell you the large percentage of the populations annually have significanpopulation's annuallye significant mental health issues and that is especially true in rural areas. a reader asks what is your plan to movement of the ill persons out of jail and into treatment and how do you pay for it. >> that is an important issue when i hear from many sheriffs across the state. i was talking to a major county sheriff couple months ago who said about a third of the intake in the prison system or people
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who needed treatment for drug abuse and mental health issues. and you know, our prison system isn't the best of the most cost efficient way to do it. it's not cost efficient for taxpayers, and it's also got the most effective in terms of treating somebody with a mental health issue or substance abuse issue, which often is the offshoot of an undiagnosed or untreated mental health issue. we want to expand access to mental health, part of the plan to bring it and make it more affordable. >> how do you get them out of jail and into mental health treatment? >> last week i had to high schootwo highschool students iny in toronto commits suicide. we have chronically underfunded issues at the state and municipal level. i will be a governor that puts mental health first when it comes to health care. we have massively increased the department of corrections budget and have not spent the money on mental health that we need. we need to invest in rehabilitative treatment, and we need to better coordinate the
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municipal and state responses. >> thank you mr. stapleton. now, i would like for each of you to ask a question of your opponent. this should be a question that shows the voters what you believe is your highest priority. you will each have one minute to answer coming an, and i believe mr. stapleton is going to go first. >> congressman polis, i ask you this question last night coming and you didn't answer the question. so i'm going to ask you again. i have a friend who has been here for ten years, he's an immigrant from mexico but is now a u.s. citizen. he's been working in the energy industry and provided him a happy life. he got his first house a couple years ago when his future is bright, but you are working against him. you talk to the colorado in which his job wouldn't exist. he worked on anti-fracking and anti-pipeline initiatives and talked about bringing the game for the 100% renewable future where his job would be obsolete. how will you bring his job to colorado in the renewables don't come flooding back and you can't
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have a colorado because you wrecked the economy and busted the budget of the state? to martin last night coming hopefully i burned his vote. boat. i'm talking to him again now. back in supported by many of the federal workers at the pipefitters and the electrical workers. many of the men and women who work in gas because they know that i will put workers and safeties first. i'm proud of governor hicken luper's efforts to make sure pipelines are safe and i look forward to taking the next step to make sure you have a bright future for you and your family by saving money on healthcare. if you have younger kids making sure they have access to preschool and kindergarten and yes making sure you have a part of colorado's future because we are going to have a lot of oil and gas jobs to depend on the price of gas. we will make colorado even more of a net energy exporter and as we shift to renewable energy i want to make sure you have every opportunity in advanced manufacturing to make more money
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to support your family. >> mr. stapleton. >> with soon-to-be justice kavanaugh on the supreme court it is ruby wade will be overturned. for the strict abortions in the state of colorado, somebody that said they would be a pro-life governor and somebody that said they picked a running mate but t supported a radical personhood and they would've been banned many forms of birth control would you sign a bill that eliminated the rights of their own bodies here in colorado. >> let me translate to your response to the question of what yowhatyou said was i'm supportey the unions have you still don't have a job. i would be a pro-life governor because it is a matter of my seat. i also accept roe v. wade is being the wall of the land and i'm not going to speculate when i raised my hand to become governor of colorado, i don't raise my hand to accept just
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some of the constitution. i accept all of it. it's not an à la cart offering. i'm not to speculat good to spen whether it is going to be overturned because the two most recent justices to the supreme court work and speculate during the time of the confirmation hearing. what i will tell you if i'm going to enforce the constitution as well and it has been embedded in the colorado constitution that we shouldn't use the state taxpayer funds for abortion related services. >> thank you both. the candidates will now have 90 seconds for a closing statement. coin toss earlier gives mr. stapleton the opportunity to begin his final statement. >> thank you very much to colorado for having me. i'm running for governor for threesome with important reasons. craig is ten, coco was seven in bolivia is for. i'm running for the future in colorado because i have a heart for service and the colorado i want is going to be one that
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will be filled with abundant economic opportunity not just for them, but for all of our kids in colorado. i have a demonstrated track record of working with democrats on pragmatic solutions, working with and stupid colorado first. we can achieve all of our goals and hopes and dreams in colorado with the will to do that and the leadership from the governor's office that i plan to provide. i've done it as treasurer and i will do it again. none of this would be possible though if we make the mistake of electing the congressman is our next governor. he represents the most radical extreme governor in colorado history if he were to win. and i'm sorry to be the town crier on this, but somebody has to be honest to your record. if you promised $90 billion of spending to the energy and education, that would triple the budget obligations in colorado and you haven't told anybody how you plan to pay for it. 90 billion is 90 billion don't think of colorado and would result in empty government promises and it's not the future that i want to have for my kids
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or your kids are any colorado kids. thank you very much for having me. >> mr. polis. >> you hear these words tossed around, the extreme radical. these are fundamentally i am a uniter. i worked with republicans and democrats nationally to pass the landmark federal education legislation. i'm ready to roll up my sleeves in colorado to get things done in a bipartisan way to bring people together. i'm not for the name-calling. i might have differences of opinion inside areas, and i'm sure i agree with him on others but i value what he said. i was proud to sponsor a bill with cory gardener to bring them right here to grand junction in western colorado. even taking on some embers of his own party to do it. i'm running for governor because i believe in the future of the state. i've run schools and served on the state board of education. we have a plan to end a decade.
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i'm running because coloradans are tired of getting ripped off on healthcare costs, whether it's prescription drugs or insurance. we have a 100 day action plan to help save you money so you have more of the end of the month to enjoy the colorado that you love. we are going to take on the loophole in tax subsidies and tax code to pass the savings along to you in the form of reducing the tax in colorado families. i'm running for governor because i have a background in business creating hundreds of jobs in the private sector and empowering other entrepreneurs to succeed. i won't colorado to be a statewide success story no matter where you live in our great state. >> mr. polis. >> thank you to both a few candidates. we appreciate your remarks tonight. i think we learned something. and we think the grand junction daily sentinel, colorado mesa university, rocky mountain pbs and the moderators '-end-single-quote you in the audience tonight. we hope that this is giving you information that will help you make your decision about who should be the next governor. regardless of your view, we urge
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you to vote. it's a bright come a privilege,d an obligation to ensure our democratic freedom. to review the debate and other information we invite you to check the website at and we thank you for joining us tonight. good night.
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washington state junior senator maria cantwell debates with republican challenger suzanne hutchison at the pacific lutheran university in tacoma. senatotacoma. senator cantwell held the seat since 2000. this is courtesy of the coalition. >> hello and welcome to the center of thcenter of the pacifn university in tacoma and the first debate in the 2018 race for u.s. senate. i'm alongside the ethics 13 fox. organized by the coalition was founded by the seattle city's club to enhance access to those who hold the state's highest elected offices. financial support has been provided by the sponsors, aarp is washingtoof washington on thd melinda gates foundation and ruthless foundation. we also want to thank lutheran university along with the baffle franklin pierce and the tacoma


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