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seriously. >> host: longtime democratic operative thomas reston is the author of the book "soul of a democrat" the seven core ideals that made our party - and our country - great. thanks for joining us on booktv. >> thanks an awful lot. appreciate it.
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>> host: welcome.there sebastian gorka we are delighted to have you here today and congratulations on your book. i also understand in addition to your other accomplishments that you also have a new one in the queue that you are the host of the america first on radio telenetwork and am i correct in saying that? >> guest: absolutely. it's the newest radio show from california to d.c.. i guess i've become a culture warrior finally. if i had time for every time someone said you should have a radio show, well now i do. >> host: that's fantastic. what about twitter. should we stick that in? >> guest: just go to court
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that on twitter and we have a brand-new web site that goes with a radio program gorkov.com. it has all kinds of material in it. >> host: the book is "why we fight." why did you write the book? tell our viewers what inspired you to write this book and what is your message? >> guest: the important thing is the dash that i owe to my publisher margie redgrave who is a genius but i came to the white house thinking i was going to work on issues because that was the main tang then i became a general bill o'reilly called me to utility infielder of national security at the white house. i realized when to have the clearances in you read the classified reports terrorism is an issue we will manage. we will suppressive the there there threats and i want to give
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an account to americans who are more edge did and what the strategic challenges are that we face today from china and north korea and russia and all of the nonstate actors as well. what i got from margie is why defeating america's enemies where we have the ideological driven policy. let's not forget the last commander-in-chief almost began his presidency by traveling the world on the so-called apology tour from cairo to ever were all saying whatever the issue is whether its poverty inequality terrorism we are the problem and as such he built the national security strategy. this is a stunning thing, concepts of leading from behind which means they withdrawing of america from the international stage and as such active but --
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actors like vladimir putin exploited that vacuum with the invasion of ukraine we saw isis grow from a little ranch is branch of al qaeda into the most successful modern insurgency so this book is about being proud of our judeo-christian heritage giving a strategic overview of the threats we face in what donald trump's doing about them. lastly to re-instill in americans their pride for who we are with four stories. people who have given their all for this country going back to stephen decatur after the founding right up to whittaker chambers to remind people that yes this is who we are and this is what people have done for their country. >> host: by the way we are going to get to the policy side of your look but you mention the
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story. i want to tackle a little bit about your personal story and that of your heritage, your parents but we need to get into those four heroes because it's very striking the way you we their stories into the policies that you are putting forward in the book. it was actually a very special part in a memorable part of the book. let's start with this. your first chapter focuses on what it means to be a freedom fighter. there really tells the story in a book about your father. please tell us what does it mean to be a freedom fighter and the impact that your father and parents haven't you in your own world view. >> guest: i am the product of my parents. my parents were children in world war ii when hungary was taken over by a regime and they
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lived through that oppression. my father actually assisted and protected his jewish classmates on their way to school to make sure they weren't -- by the forces and of the 18-year-old the great hope. he occurred at the great man had sat down promised democracy and freedom for the occupied countries of central europe like hungary. you know better than anybody given your career and your expertise those hopes were dashed. by 1948 when we became a team the, the fascist have been replaced with the stalinist regime of the soviet union of the kremlin. as a patriot and a man who believed in the judeo-christian values of this country he decided to resist but not with a gun or a lawn.
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in college he started secret russian underground association that would spy on the soviets collect sensitive information about how they were stealing that national treasures of hungary and how they were reneging on the requirements and smuggle that information out to the west. for eight months they have curried out the information to be an opponent fortunately they found a nation interested in that information. it was the mi-6 intelligence agency of the uk. of course it ended up landing on the desk of none other than ken philby. ken philby if you're a history buff was one of the 5 deadliest traders to the west we have ever seen and apostles were recruiting by the soviets who penetrated the highest british
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establishments intelligence community and the commonwealth office. fill the collected these reports to identify every single person i was in my father's group so he could tournament to the hungarian secret police sprayed my father was arrested tortured in the basement of secret police headquarters in budapest subjected to a show trial and given a life sentence at the age of 20. he spent two years in solitary two years in a prison coal mine and was eventually liberated in the glorious 11 days of freedom that was the hungarian revolution of 1956. with the 17 held daughter and the political prisoner my father literally crawled across a minefield enter free oster as refugees and eventually settled in the uk and that is where i was born and raised. in fact in my family that rented
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my gene code there's a moment i describe in the book where i knew very little of this as a child. i went to school and learned english but there was a moment you can sometimes find moments when your life changes. one day my father who is an amazing app weight you love to swim. he comes out of the ocean and i'm eight or nine your soul. i see these white lines on his wrist. he's far too young to be wrinkled and i said to him what's that? with no emotion he just said that is where the secret police bound by wrists together with wire behind my back so they could hang me from the ceiling in the torture chamber. that changes your outlook and as such from a very early age understood that freedom is as
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fragile as it is precious. sooner or later ronald reagan was always correct when he said sooner or later the loss of liberty is always that one generation away whether it's in world war ii or the soviets of the cold war or the jihadis. they are all connected. they worship different focal points of their ideology but we always have to be prepared for the next totalitarian and that's another reason why. >> host: i have to say it was very gripping and very memorable in terms of the description and how that impacted your life and how you began that way in terms of what does it mean to be a freedom fighter and used the example of your father in that context. you go wanting you argue that
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the most important for victory is the will to win. that is greater than your enemy. that to me was really one of these schematic and her paintings of the book. you basically say too often we forget the eternal truth. please tour viewership talk about this because this is the crucial aspect to "why we fight." >> guest: this is an sebastian gorka comment this is the western strategic thought and there's a reason why some for example say the ultimate victory is to win without fighting. what does that mean? it means your will is so great that you communicate your will
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is so powerful that you say i'm not even going to try to do psych out the opposition. there's a reason why he uses some very symbolic images in his writing on the wall when he says it's about two human beings. it can be to people playing cards with each other but at the end of the day it's about one imposing his will on the other. the point is a very simple one most powerful nation the world has ever seen by any measure. right now the u.s. economy under donald trump's the largest it's ever been. we are exporting energy which is incredible. we are not just a superpower and i agree with the french author who says we are a hyperpower. we have known it can pettinger's when you look at the measurement of state power. does that mean we can to beat whoever we want?
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we have the best soldiers come the best marines that as technology and the best training okay. that's a good vietnam and let's look at afghanistan. in the first six years of award for most -- was an iud. not exactly high-tech periods and artillery share -- artillery shell with wires sticking out of it. we have a serious problem with people who are using premodern technology to fight us tells you what you need to know. if you have the will to win at all costs than its sometimes neutralizes the technological at dances the financial and -- financial advantage. this book is as much about the will to win and think because we have a commander-in-chief who is demonstrating that amply. >> host: we are going to get to that more in depth but i want to take the viewership through to things because of your book.
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they are very focused pieces. you refer to history and you look at the number of threats and why we fight and why it matters. on this issue about ideas but they also go to another area that you have focused on that is interrelated and very much connected to the battle ideas. you also mention quote without an america of heroes ready to fight and win basically we will fall into the hands of the totality is -- totalitarian regime. let's talk about the issue of the fight against terrorism in this regard and to go to summon the heroes and their stories and how it's interrelated. the kind of challenge and threat that the united states is facing we have assets but where do the ideas come into play in terms of the fight against terrorism?
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>> they are central. they are absolutely central. the threats we face are always couched by the other side in terms of an ideology again whether it's fascist communists, whether it's iran and the mullahs or whether his eyes as. they have to have a framework in which they'd justify their strategy. it was this fascist ideology that said we are going to blame the minorities and blame the. we must exterminate them on them will be great again. for the communists it was the capitalist people exploiting the working class. we must have a global revolution in create this working paradise. for the jihadists it's their interpretation of the religion that they see as being the only religion. when a terrorist in the uk when they say allah aqua bar doesn't
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necessarily mean allah is great. it's a supremacist ideology. i feel a little embarrassed that i'm sitting there with you paula and i'm going to talk about the cold war. if anybody knows the role of ideas, when did we start to understand the cold war? you can mock it -- market on a diary. george kennan writes in 14 page classified long telegram when washington says to him look what's up with uncle joe? we thought you who is their friend and this man had been steeped in russian history and the ideas of the soviet revolution sat down and explained it to everybody. it's ideology socialism cannot peacefully call it democracy. only logical for them they must enslave or destroy anyone who is
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not a socialist. that point because of the extrication of the ideas finally the truman administration understood this as an existential threat. we get to nsc-68 and we have a grand strategy in response that threat. it's like a doctor. you can't diagnose the ailment you will not be able to heal that person. diagnosing ailments begins with understanding your enemy and what they believe. >> host: you well document everything that you have mentioned but you also dive deep into the reagan administration of which i was a part of and had the privilege of serving on the national security council staff in a very striking moment in history and the document how the ideology should did from the containment to rollback. what do you think is the best
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way forward? has there have been a complacency internationally? i'm not speaking about the united states but internationally from her view that some in europe have taken the position that while we are in a post-cold war perry and yes there are challenges that we have for structures and we have her institutions. is there a complacency? how can we when in the battle of ideas packs. >> guest: absolutely complacency air vents and lack of expertise. i talk a lot to my friends in the uk. do people understand totalitarian eyelet g.? they don't work at 10 downing street. they have the way to shape the strategic culture of that nation here with john bolton way fun of somebody who understands who is
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at the top of the system at the national security counsel. h.r. met master wanted tanks in the big footprint in afghanistan. let me try and explain what the challenge here is. fukuyama could have been more wrong if he tried. it's really quite a parody. it's quite a parody in the 1990s it was shape by two -- it was a debate between huntington the class of civilization and fukuyama. he didn't say was that clash of civilizations but a marginal era between civilization. ideology is dead. to relevant. democracy is one of the future of mankind is going to be fine-tuning the graphic equalizer of democracy. it's a marxist argument. the materialistic argument that
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goes back to the ideas of hagel. the idea of the dialectic trap. ask mature as the mullahs and the people suffering under the regime of north korea read the ideology is dead. if coors ideology is what motivates people. ideology can translate for me french word meaning a set of beliefs that informs action. wenner believes going to start being relevant. we have been in the malaise. the last time america was strategic was under the u.n. administration under president reagan. that's only understood this. we have an administration that thinks an act strategically. i think the national security
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strategy that was penned by nadia shatt lois the first since the reagan administration that deserves to use the adjective strategic and you are right we were searching for the snooze button for 30 years. >> host: indeed and by the way i must comment on that national security strategy. truly it is strategic. it is well articulated and dr. shuck low did an incredible work. let me go to something you have that began to be interrelated to your opening comments. you argue we need to adjust their system to deal with the resurgence of the more traditional types of conflicts. at the same time you argue the need or maintaining our readiness. you also point out how information technology have
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changed the very practice of how the public talked about it. explain this and also want to even because you have those wonderful vignettes. you have after this particular section of book is truly phenomenal in terms of history being the youngest captain never and just what you did to leave that story into your response to my question. >> guest: before i came to the white house i had the company. i did 20,000 miles a month traveling from military base to military base doing briefings on isis and irregular warfare and the one shot that i used to always got the greatest attention in the dod and elsewhere was from an article i wrote masking the last hundred years of warfare.
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the something at the university of pennsylvania called the war projects. we applied it taxonomy to it and we took those wars and separated them into conventional bores were nations fight each other like world war i and wars in which there was an unconventional nonstate actor and insurgent terrorist group and we found something stunning. in the last 200 years 80% of all conflicts in the world has been unconventional. less than 20% was the kind of thing we think of when we say world war ii. tanks fighting tanks, dog fights with jet fighters. 80% of all warfare is fighting a nonstate actor and horse i'm not talking about vietnam or the taliban. i'm talking about the founding of our country. we are warned in irregular warfare. the colonialists running around in red coats.
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that's irregular warfare. not only that there is a reason the marine corps anthem has the line the shores of tripoli and it and it isn't because the devil dogs like to go on holiday in north africa. >> as one of the first ever covert missions of this nation was 120 marines traveled with warships into the north african arena to recapture excess a test of the uss philadelphia taken hostage by the barbary pilots and the kingdom of tripoli. because we had no navy afterward founded our ships were prey to the barbary pirates who were muslim jihad is. for years we had to pay tribute. americans were captured and enslaved until a man named thomas jefferson became commander-in-chief and he said we are will take back our ships and it did play that tiny
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flotilla with his young officer the man who under disguise leads his band of rains into the shores of tripoli into the harbor to capture the uss philadelphia. he can recapture zoe scuffled it and which was recognized by the pope is the greatest act of any nation in western seoul-based -- civilization in recent times to this day the youngest ever in history. the whole point of this beyond heroes is to illustrate that our war with the jihadi movement did not begin on december 11 or -- the gia august is almost as old as their public. >> host: it's amazing in the way you roll that story in and the message that is sent. let me also go, we discussed a bit also the recurring theme in the book about how quote war
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isn't just about guns and bombs when ideas kill. one of the important messages, you have it peppered through and how it was the war in a battle of wits. you point out the propaganda matters. here the cold war, we touched upon that. what is a winning strategy and maybe in propaganda. describe that. what do you think is a winning strategy? it. >> guest: i don't want to sound like a broken record but i grew up under ronald reagan and there is a petri dish case of how to do it correctly. that is the working group from the reagan administration. i truly believe that small is
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beautiful. giant for our christie's, no. you have a small band of people who have the support of the president who are a cross between the nfc the staffers on the hill to intelligence community voice of america and they come together what do they do? >> create an entity which is going to shine a bright light on the lives of the enemies. one of the best example the united states at ford dietrich created aids in ways used to target ethnic minorities. this is out there in the conspiracy theory domain. there was this idea that america is using biological warfare against minorities. what did the working measure
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group do? >> trace that story back to an african journalist who was the first person ever to come up with the idea that age is artificial. they talk to this journalist in what they find out that they asked him what his source was. he said oh i was in reception and the soviet diplomat gave me that information. it's propaganda. that is the essence of pop again the shaping the propaganda environment pdf to delegitimize the purveyor of the lie and show the lie for what they are. i've said for years now with the global jihadi movement we have a work with their arab and muslim allies. the jordanians and the egyptians to help them undermine the ideology jihadiism. we can kill as many jihadis as we like. the pentagon told me a few years
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ago if i know where high-value target is and i have the secretary of defense and the presidential signoff we can kill him in 72 hours wherever he is the world. we can reach out with jsoc the uac and we will kill them. okay but what happens if the day a few drone that person 20 jihadis volunteer tour place him. he just created a cycle. describe it as exquisite whack-a-mole. if you want to win you win without fighting. the ultimate victory in the war of ideas is when the ideology of becoming a jihadi is no longer. it's no longer attractive. when the dust and act as a magnet for young women and men around the world and that can only be done with counterpropaganda. >> host: you cite in this section another hero in this hero is lewis fuller. i understand he is the only
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american awarded the u.s. army navy crossed five times. take a moment and tell the story of fuller and how that is exemplified or brings out the various thesis that you describe guess who i spent two and a half years teaching at the marine -- in quantico. this is a man who tried without his parents permission to join the army at the age of 16 or 17. finally he enrolled in cmi when he was 18 and adept in the marine corps as a corporal. multiple, multiple and gauge mensah oversees that the story i tell in the book is the story of guadalcanal and henderson field. ..
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to reinforce organically from the core. a battle that lasted three days in which the japanese, not only bombed and shelled the field from the sea but literal waves against combatives against summaries. this is the commander who never swayed in his capacity to keep his men's morale high. making sure they were clean-shaven, making sure that any man wanted to have a service, a kaplan partisan service. as such i think the figures i
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recall two and half thousand japanese with two dozen marines were killed. this is just an example of how leadership had detectable can have a strategic effect and how one airfield in the asia-pacific turned around the war for us in a way that is unimaginable in terms of the over technologist way that we look at work today. it is an attempt to illustrate the importance of leadership. >> excellent, you also in one of the chapters, you really focus quite a bit on what you need to know about war. you do mention the nature, you do know about the nature of our enemies. whether the long-term
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adjunctive's, what are the specific threats to the united states at home or abroad, and do we have the right tools to keep our nation safe? let's dive deeper into that. this is a crucial part also of your book because it is a strategy and there also basics that you need to have to define your strategy. >> let me start by quoting my professor at harvard. he talks about this committee that he was asked to attend. he was part of this group that was looking at the national interest of the united states. after the final meeting the party had lifted a hundred and three interest to america. he says in his lecture, when you have a hundred and three interest you have none. being strategic means privatize a solution. you have to know the enemy. people forget the first part of
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the quote, if you want to win you have to know your enemy, know if you wish to and all the battles you must know yourself and why you're fighting. as well as know the enemy. people for some reason forget that. this is why we have the strategic malaise of the last 20 to 25 years. we haven't really looked at what we are and what is important to us. afghanistan, when we deployed to afghanistan in october 2,000 and one, there was one strategic mission, it wasn't building hospitals, it wasn't ring building around the corporal that even the soviets did manage to finish, one reason alone, that piece of real estate in central asia must never ever again be used to launch fast casualty attacks on american soil. in the first mission we had in
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the militaries was absolutely stunning of conventional warfare. there is 300 guys on donkeys with real time equipment we leverage more than 20000 northern alliance not only to take out the al qaeda training facilities but to take down the telegram. this is followed by what? seventeen years of mission we are going to turn this country into functioning democracy is going have economic growth, there's going to be freedom of liberty for women and minorities, without understanding that is our strategic goal, why don't they matter to america? my parents lived under a dictatorship. i want everybody to be free, i want women to go to school, i want music to be legal, but at the end of the day strategy is
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unemotional. the ana is then trained afghanistan is important and must never again be used to a launching pad of a mass casualty attacks against america. the capacity to think and act strategically and not to make what we see in the last 20 years which is a laundry list. we're going to do everything, we're going to save the whale, make sure the icecap doesn't mail, two wars at the same time, no. to be strategic you must know who you are and what you're fighting for. on that point i must make the most important speech is given today, there is a reason that he holds that speech in some fancy for call downtown. we wanted the president of the united states to stand next to the statue of the warsaw uprising. to send a people around the world this is who we are and that speech is about one thing. america is back and we are proud
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and we will stand shoulder to shoulder with any nation that shares our values for israel via anybody else. the homework of the strategist always begins at home. >> graham allison, professor harber, i am not surprised by the clarity of broad. i am not heard that one. but it is wonderful. secondly, i had to be there and warsaw when president trump delivered that speech. it was quite riveting and the message was extremely clear. you well documented in the book the whole case of afghanistan. and as you just articulated that here today. one of your current heroes comes up in this context, this one is eugene red mcdaniel. an american hero who never gave in. >> this is the chapter i've had
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grown men tell me that makes them cry. i am not surprised. i have met captain mcdaniel, a man three years ago. he is not well known, he sent his autobiography of stars & stripes, it's an incredible tale. he is a naval aviator that has flown dozens of missions over vietnam. he was back shortly before being able to be shipped back home and he gets shot down. in what is called wino canales of his last mission. seriously injured, captured by the locals, eugene red mcdaniel spent six and half years in the handle hilton. in the story is remarkable because this is a man he had a simplistic undedicated faith. but in the faith, the identity
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of his creator and finally understood the message of the new testament and the meaningful of suffering when he was lying there with his shoulder out of his socket separating souls on his legs and costly being interrogated. they brought another downed pilot who was even worse off than him. and he suddenly realized that it is not about me it is about helping my fellow americans. he became the minister and he held bible studies from what he could remember from his time back in the united states. in a remarkable story is that he helped the covert administrati administration, the most important thing was to know that
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his fellow man was on the other side of that war and not alone. that is what kept people life. in a group of inmates planned an escape and he was not a part of the actor it was spoiled he was interrogated. eugene mcdaniel in order to save his fellow men who he knew would die if they were interrogated because the state they were in, he took the responsibility upon himself, he said the breakout game was his and he took their suffering onto himself just as our lord did. and it is a remarkable story in a great ending to the story. eventually he is reunited with his wife, his children and worked for the u.s. navy and put them back in uniform and given his own ship to command and he serves again in the u.s. navy. this is of the great nation and there's a moment from his biography where he said the one thing i never doubted was my country or my mission.
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>> amazing story. let's go now to the present. now in the trump administration. applying the very purpose of the book and messages that you articulate throughout and really looking at where the administration is on why we fight. what it means, and he referred to earlier the national security strategy document. in that document it articulates very clearly that we have geopolitical competitors. it cites china, insights russia, there is also well articulated the hope issue of global economy is in. so let us take what you said and apply it to what is happening. what is the administration doing in these different areas? in applying it practically? >> i think the easiest way of
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two quick bumper stickers is a piece of string, that is our first and the second one that i applied when i was in the white house all the time is not an accident that we had three very senior marines in the administration of chief of staff and interestingly they went just three marines that come from the same division in the marine corps, and that division has a very telling motto, their motto is no better friend, no worse enemy. i said that could be the bumper sticker for the trump administration. american leadership is back in if you wish to be your friend will stand by you and if your enemy watch out. when it comes to the threats that are listed in the book or the nss and ff, i will be very clear here. we can deal with all the threats that we face.
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we can contain iran, north korea seems to be going in the right direction. north russia is not a strategic threat, it wants to destabilize as many in the world to benefit. if you look at the democracy, and economics this is a country that is losing 600,000 people a year that are dying in russia than being born. this is a one horse town that runs on gas and oil exports, they are not a superpower. they can seriously be stabilized but they are not a superpower. as such, there is one strategic level threat that we face and that is china. china, your viewers are going to have to take my word for it, go to your favorite search engine and type in one belt one row.
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that is the chinese communist parties of a strategic plan to displace america by the 100th anniversary of the chinese resolution for 2049 and to become the world's most powerful. and they were doing it on all instruments of national power. building these military bases in the south china sea, using economic warfare for magana stan, whether it's in africa, and the minerals. or whether it's with espionage in the u.s. that is costing us billions of dollars every day or go back to political warfare propaganda, confucius institutes across the country, they are not propagating a fundamentally ended christian of ideology to the unwitting people. good news, the president said their money is green too so nonetheless. we gave him top-secret briefings
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on what china is really doing in america and he very rapidly came around and he now understands and that's why we have the terrorist, the 303 investigation, and understands the threat to america and is dealing with it. >> in this section you bring in whitaker chairman. as you cite you say the "one man against the world". tell briefly his story and how that relates literally to this whole theme of why we went. >> i didn't know it at the time when i wrote the book because i am not a soothsayer but what came to the conclusion has a lot to do with politics today especially because the kavanaugh hearing. for those of the you that aren't familiar with them he wrote the book witness, a real life-changing book. he had been a soviet agent before world war ii and he took
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information from african america and smuggled into the soviet union. he was a middleman for everyone in the east coast. during world war ii after the he saw the light. he said how can the system i've so adored now work with hitler. and he left the communist party and went underground, he say for his life and took his family with him. but he kept all the documentation of his work for the soviet union. after the war ended, he had found jesus, he found the love for his country and said he has a duty to help the true administration know the moles inside the u.s. government and the east coast. nobody was interested, the white house was interested, the fbi was interested until richard
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nixon of capitol hill was very interested. as such whitaker chambers became the man who testified for the third time ever in life hearings on capitol hill. i am a former communist, and one of them is that man over there, he had the act halter and had to be the highest man in the u.s. administration who was on the left. he was a darling and all the left foundations, writing all the right articles, he denied it, and he was championed by the left and because he was so adored by the democrats, what did they do to whitaker chambers, they accused him of everything under the sun. they accused him of being a homosexual, alcoholic and of his brother's death. what did he do, he never gave up. he said despite him actually
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believing the soviet union would eventually destroy us he had a dark expectation of the future. he thought we lost our will to fight, he said i don't care what it cost me. i'm going to tell the truth. so if you're surprised that what happened to judge kavanaugh, don't be because we have seen this come from the left since 1948 to the 1950s. this is been going on for half a century. and the point about whitaker chambers is alger hits with two to prison not for being a mold for imprisoning himself. we found the conclusive proof that he was in fact an agent of the gremlin. just one example of this human
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portage that somehow stood up to the truth in whatever cost them personally. >> thank you for this interview and i am delighted that we can take a bit of time and go through those four heroes that you cite in the book. because i found it truly most interesting not only because you connect them to the points that you try to get across but also just the stories in themselves. it is very rich and very moving. one of the things coming back to the current administration. one of the things that you pose is america safe? so is america say? >> metrics matter. metrics really, really matter. we haven't had a mass casualty attack on u.s. soil in the last 18 years. that must be launched out. but on other metrics we have seen war, we have seen china grow in such a rate thanks in large part to us, there's a very
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disturbing trend happening right now. especially in silicon valley. google, not only decided to build its first world casts artificial intelligence facility in china, google the most powerful information management platform we have ever seen, google now is assisting the common used raging in beijing and censuring information from its own people. this administration is not about raising chains. but we understand that our foreign policies must be informed by a moral compass. we don't invade our countries to change a version of ourselves but if they are founding in 1776 of the declaration of
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independence is to mean something, there must be more contents of our foreign policy. there are very serious strategic threats from the left. china today -- why is is declassified in the house in the midwest that we pick up a chinese agent in a cornfield stealing corn from a plantation? why, the current plantation question work because it is genetically modified corn that has been developed by an american company at the cost of millions, maybe billions in the chinese agent who was arrested and prosecuted was stealing samples of that product that intellectual properties to take back to china to reverse engineering. how many americans know that we have chinese agents running around and farms of america stealing properties. on one hand we are safer, and i'll say one thing on the tier history a personal request, there is a frontline in the war today. when it comes to global jihadist
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in. the front line is when you leave your house in the morning. whether you're going to a christmas party in san bernardino or whether you're going to a night club in florida, the frontline is in you leave the door of your home every morning. all americans need to be slightly more aware, have your head on a swivel. you could be the person who spots the next threat and you could save some lives if you tell the authorities when you see something is suspicious. >> with trevor to more questions. we really covered a lot of ground. and really hit upon a lot of your points conveyed in the book. >> it's delightful to meet somebody who is interviewing the hasn't read the book. >> i think that is important to read the book. we began, i asked you what your message was, we almost concluded
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the interview what message do you want to convey to the viewership? >> very simple. it is very simple, there is only one nation in human history that was on the principle of individual of liberty of freedom. that is our nation. dynastic royalty and ethnic group. some kind of local work, no, here we are based on the principle that we are all made in god's image and that is where innate human dignity comes from. the words in the word create is with a c-uppercase-letter is in our founding documents. number one, this is the greatest nation in god's earth and we are different. we need to return what ronald reagan called us, shining city on the hill.
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in my second messages finally after eight years of self-loathing and self hatreds and blaming the americans, under president donald j trump we are finally returning to that place to the shining city on the hill. >> i still have one last question. here there viewership, again your tweet, twitter account and the fact that you're going to be on the radio every day is a host. but tell your tweet. >> it is the abbreviation s db gor ka in eastern time at 36 on the radio network and you can listen to us 247 on my new website seb gu arche.com. in the show is called america fest. we began with their father.
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>> and we are very moved by reading that section. i knew some pieces about your background but it was very, very moving. i was also moved by just your own inspirational words about you. and at the very end of the book you talk about how you felt coming into the white house and then you get to see her own story. let's conclude on that note. what about did that mean to you. it certainly also jumped out to me if i may say, i felt with great privilege during my time there when i worked on the nfc south and during the reagan administration and there is nothing like it. it is undescribable. sure that with her viewership. >> i met candidate trump in the summer of 16 when i got from his then campaign manager saying we have a debate in mr. trump like to meet with you. so i flew to new york and sat down in mr. trump's office and
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he was closer to me than you are and we have this 40 minute blue sky, discussion on national security from the civil war up to isis, nuclear weapons, this man was very interested in these issues. in a classic trump style halfway in the conversation he stopped and said i like this guy let's hire him. so i became the advisor on the outside to candidate trump. and then got to know his team, got to know mike flynn, the my wife and i were invited on the transition team before the election. i was on the nfc branch, and then i was invited week of the inauguration, stu said i you are coming to work with me. and then the day of the operation it was a saturday, i now govern the employee. so i worked in the white house and the unmarked van driven by a
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young black female army driver. arrived at the eisenhower building. get my blue pass, walking to west wing that is empty at 8:00 a.m. the day after the inauguration. and i asked the secret service uniform agent at the door, so where am i allowed to go. and she said you better blue badge wherever you want. >> there is me in illegal interbrand and the united states working in the white house. only in america. >> status sebastian gorka. thank you so much for coming his book is, why we fight to seeing america's enemies with no apologies. thank you again and congratulations. >> thank you. >> thank you.
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how do you find a hacker story, it is a simple explanation is obvious all of us, it was a play date. i was picking my daughter up from preschool a few years ago, a classmate of hers ran over and they started playing together. it was the beginning of the school year, i started talking to the mom, she said 0 what you do, and i thought i wanted to be the interesting person in this conversation. i am a writer, write articles, write books, i talk about for ten minutes about myself. what you do? she said 0 tomorrow morning i have to break into the bank. and i said 0 really. thus a little bit more. >> you can watch this in any of our programs in their entirety booktv.org. type the authors name in the search bar at the top of the page. >> coming up public tv on c-span2. white house reporter april ryan,
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