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billion. i would take the money and say, florida, you want to create your early literacy program? then take the money, no rules, you go do it, we just want better outcomes. transportation, epa should delegate authority back to the states as it relates to managing water and air. making sure that the outcomes are there so that, you know, you're serious about this, but that would save billions of dollars and it would be the best means by which to deal with these unfunded mandates. if you eliminate the mandate and allow states to create it no one can be complaining. i will be a tenth amendment president. our bill of rights is a package deal, by the way. if you like the first then you kind of have to go along with the fourth and second and tebt and all the rest of them, too. >> before we take the next question if you are parked on the street coming into the country club you are parked in a fire zone and you need to move your car immediately so that we can get deliveries in and we
don't have a life safety issue, please. last question. mary atwood. >> sorry. it's just my tendency to do that. i apologize. >> governor, i have two sons in the military, the oldest is a graduate of the naval academy, he will be doing his internship this summer at walter reed. >> yeah. >> i introduced you to my baby. >> yeah. >> who will be a graduate of the naval academy in 2020. >> congratulations. >> so i'm asking this question not only as a citizen, but also as a mom. >> uh-huh. >> what are you going to do to give our military and the leadership the tools that they need to keep our country safe? >> great question and it's one that has been at the core of my campaign to be honest with you. i had a chance to give a speech at the citadel which is a
phenomenal school in charleston, south carolina, where i laid out a strategy of eliminating the sequester first and foremost. it is devastating. the cuts that have taken place in the sequester are disproportionately hitting the military and it's short term so people can't plan. we are not long range planning anymore in the department of defense, they're using contingen contingency moneys to fill gaps but there is no strategic investing going on over the long haul. eliminating the squesing, rebuilding the army. one of the challenges of someone who is ready to enlist, you are four years out but as an officer you will know this, is the deployments are too long, whether you are a reservist or guard member or enlisted, the deployments are too long, it puts real strains on family life because as we cut the kmil tear the mission still exists and the support and training subsides, the equipment gets older, but the mission still exists and we're putting people in harm's
way for an extended period of time. building the marine levels back up to where they were and the army back to 490,000 is the first step. secondly we need major procurement reform but we need to start procuring. we have airplanes that are older than the pilots, a lot older. the b-52 was yawing rated during harry truman's time. talk about nicks in the china and kids eyes glaze over. mention harry true man and you're talking about their grandparents. that's the challenge, we are not modernizing the equipment necessary to fight fiercely and to fight in a way that protects the troops so that has to happen as well. donald trump really in one of the great moments of one of the debates was asked about the nuclear triad and he clearly had no clue what he was talking about. it was obvious beyond belief. it's a little scary because we need to modernize that capability for a deterrent effect as well. across the spectrum we need to rebuild the military, then we need to have a commander in chief that won't impose
political considerations on top of department of defense. in return for reform and modernization, which is essential, we ought to have the backs of the military. the commander in chief should not try to politicizer things, centralize power inside the national security council. when i'm president i will have the backs of the military and i will ask for options. you don't outsource this and say the military said this, you accept responsibility, but you are there to provide support. all the support necessary to achieve the mission. and i think we need to be very strategic about when we use force. it can't be at the drop of a hat, but it can't be never. there has to be some feeling that the united states will act in its security interests and today there's doubts about that. we talk a good game but then we don't back it up. so if you're looking for someone maybe who is less verbose, who won't talk about red lines without backing it up or talk about russia being a regional power and allow ukraine to be invaded 30 days later or talks
about isis being the jv team. that didn't work out so well. maybe less talk but an assurance that our friends know we have their back and our enemies fear us a bit. that's how you create stability and security. the greatest victory would be that your son in service to his country, which he will be an extraordinary officer of the greatest fighting force known to man, that he's never engaged in that battle. that's the -- that would be the ultimate measurement of success. not because we cut and run, bau because we were so strong and sure of america's leadership in the world that others feared us when it was appropriate to fear us and our friends knew that we had their back. we've got to get back to that. it's called peace through strength and it's not a cliché. it used to be the bipartisan consensus in this country and i hope we get back to that. finally, the best way to assure that you have the support of the troops outside of the military context is to reform the department of veterans affairs. it is unconscionable that we've
allowed that it to run down. the best way to start that process of reform other than career civil service reform where you fire incompetent people is to also give veterans choice cards, choices so they can go to their private doctor or private clinic or a hospital here in nashua instead of having to go down to boston. in these town hall meetings i've heard so many stories of people that are getting the run around including two days ago in bedford i think it was, 700 people and the last question, thank god i asked this woman and she said i've got a complicated story but i have to tell it. my dad who is here had a -- i got a bill eight years after he had a procedure for $2,000 more i think she said than what we paid before. so eight years later they get an invoice and shortly thereafter they get a death certificate. her dad apparently according to the department of veterans affairs is dead. he's there, i promise you he was
there. and the benefits outside of the department of veterans affairs get caught off like social security, maybe medicare and others, they stop, but the benefits inside the department of veterans affairs continue, which is, you know -- it's like one bad -- it's like a nightmare after a nightmare. it took them nine months to fix it. this is a real story here in new hampshire. i can promise you the best way to show respect outside of rebuilding our military to men and women in uniform is to fix that mess as fast as i can. that's it? thank you. they're kicking me out the door. they're kicking me out the door. >> governor, thank you very much for joining us today. i believe your schedule has a hard stop. there are more than a million rotarians around this globe and we all share four tests that
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>> thank you and god bless you. >> in iowa c-span brought you candidate speeches. >> thank you all very much. >> thank you, folks. >> meet and greets, town halls and live caucus coverage. this week c-span is on the ground in new hampshire following the candidates, leading up to the first in the nation primary. live election coverage starts tuesday at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span, c-span radio and cspan.org. i'm currently on the fence between hillary and bernie and the most important issue to me in this election is education, i'm a high school and elementary schoolteacher and i want to know where their stance is on the common core and what they want to do with that. >> and what's most important to me is our national debt because it's going to effect us teens. what i find most important is not who you are voting for because i'm not endorsing
anyone. i want you to just get out to the polls, use your voice because your vote is your voice. use it. >> my number one issue in this campaign is getting big money out of politics. citizens united needs to be overturned. until we address that in our politics everything else is just going to keep gets worse and worse. very small number of people are making decisions about what even comes before our -- the rest of the population. for that reason i'm supporting bernie sanders. >> i believe that it's every american citizen's duty to be politically active and to vote in elections. as a first-time voter i'm trying to figure out what i like. i'm bouncing from candidate to candidate, campaign to campaign events and i'm here at marco rubio's pancake breakfast. i believe there is a candidate for everyone and i'm really excited to find out who i like and who i will vote for.
republican presidential candidate donald trump held a campaign rally in manchester, new hampshire today, that on the eve of the state's first in the nation presidential primary. he talked about his plans and goals for his potential presidency then took questions. this is about an hour. some weather, huh? hi, al, how are you doing? you are in television. i saw al on television today. it was great. thank you all for being here. this is really amazing. i mean, we're coming to the end of a beautiful, beautiful journey. i hear we're going to do well but the snow is out there. what effect will the snow have? will it have an effect? it can't have an effect. we can handle the snow. but it's going to be, i think, something special. tomorrow is a very big day, it's going to be a very big day for the nation and it's going to be a vote that i think people if i believe everything i'm reading we're going to do very well and we're going to see. what do you think, we're going to do well? make america great again.
see that hat. that's my guy, huh? and it's going to be very exciting. i want to thank al. i saw him all over television today. there's nobody that loves the vets more than al, right? [ applause ] >> and we're going to take care of the vets. we're going to take care of the vets. al goes to the speeches of many of the candidates, all of the candidates essentially and he has settled with trump because i know the issues and i really know the issues and it seems like with the vets we almost have unanimous support because we know what to do and we know -- they've been so poorly treated, they've been so badly treated. so, al, you're going to make sure i keep that perfectly, right? we're going to have a lot of fun and we're going to take care of a lot of people. they're our greatest people and we are not taking care of -- we have illegal immigrants that are taken care of better than our vets. so we're going to stop in terms of trade we're going to stop the craziness that's going on, we're going to stop so much in terms
of purchasing. you know, when our country purchases drugs, we are the largest drug purchaser in the world, i'm talking about prescription drugs, all kinds of drugs, drugs to make you better, we barely even negotiate with the drug companies. the reason we don't negotiate is because the people that i'm running against are all getting money from the drug companies. i get no money from anybody. i feel a little bit like am i foolish? i'm self-funding my campaign. i'm the only one on either side and -- well, thank you. but i often wonder does it make a difference because do people really know it, i think some people don't but some don't, they don't even know the difference. when woody johnson as an example of johnson & johnson is self-funding a guy like jeb bush, jeb is not going anywhere, total stiff, but -- now here is a guy spent -- think of it, spent $110 million and he is
just going nowhere. but woody johnson is the head of his campaign to raise money and woody johnson is johnson & johnson. then you wonder why we don't negotiate with the drug companies. okay? who? >> johnson can't win a football game. >> well, he is a nice guy, woody is actually a friend of mine, he is a nice guy. but when you look at that and see what's happening, hundreds of billions of dollars in saving if we do anything, if we negotiate. that's one out of many. you have defense contractors the same thing, you have so many. so there's so much fat in this budget, there's so much fat in the way we purchase, it's going to be a thing of beauty, we're going to do much better than even i've been saying. i'm telling you, much better than even i've been saying. so you know one of the things with new hampshire it amazes me because you come through this idea lick setting this beautiful with the trees and the beautiful roads winding up to the hill like where we are right now in this little area and i say, wow,
isn't this beautiful. and yet every time i'm with the folks from new hampshire and i've been here long before the political stuff because i have a lot of friends, some in this room, i've been here long before the political stuff so i know new hampshire very well and i love it and i love the people, they really are amazing people. but i always hear -- thank you, honey. who said that? >> who said that? thank you. i know she's voting. thank you, darling. but i've always heard -- and it amazing me -- heroin and the drug problem. and i don't see it with new hampshire. you know, you don't see it, but the people of new hampshire it's like the first question i always get is what are you going to do about the drug problem? so who's better than me on the border? the drugs are pouring in across the southern border for the most part heroin and all sorts of drugs, i'm talking country wide, it's country wide, but they're pouring, pouring, pouring through and i'm going to build a wall and you know that and i'm going to have mexico pay for the wall and the reason they're going to pay -- thank you. and these other guys don't even understand. six months ago they said what do you mean you're going to build a
wall. well, the great wall of china is 13,000 miles, by the way, that's a serious wall, too. it's 13,000 miles. this wall is 2,000 of which we need 1,000 because we have a lot of natural barriers which are frankly great. but we would need about 1,000, 1,000 miles. china can do 13,0002,000 years ago and we can't do 1,000 today with brand new caterpillar tractors? we don't use co mat sue. so we're going to have a great border. and people can come into the country but they have to come in legally, they have to go through the process, we have to come in legally and that border is very important. immigration is so important. when you look at isis, i don't know if you heard just before i got here there was a big attack in europe where they have many isis people in different countries attacking in germa germany -- i just heard it two seconds ago. i was actually on a show and they interrupted me for this attack and i said, wow. that's bad.
you know, you've got to interrupt for attack, that's an attack, but it's pretty bad. and it's isis -- supposedly it's isis. just happened two minutes ago on cnn. it's isis and it's a lot of people in europe. what are we doing? we can't do this anymore. they want to let please people come in, we have no idea where they're from. the migration -- i have a bigger heart than anybody but we have to be smart. we have no idea where they come from. it could be the great trojan horse. look at what's going on in germany. look at what's going on in sweden last week. sweden where there's going to be a revolution, who ever heard of this in sweden, it never happened before and they're having tremendous crime and tremendous problems. we have enough problems, folks. we will get a safe zone. i will get the gulf states to pay for it. i don't want to pay for it. we owe $19 trillion. like a business, if we had a business you'd say the same thing, i don't want to pay for it. right. we just made a deal with iran, we gave them $150 billion. okay?
i would have said we don't have the money. sorry. sorry. we can't do it. we don't have the money. so we're not going to do it anymore. we're not going to do it anymore, we're not going to be the stupid people anymore, we're not going to have the stupid leaders anymore. we have the greatest businesspeople in the world right here. we're going to have our great business leaders, carl icahn he just endorsed me and other people are endorsing me, but we are going to have these great business leaders negotiate our deals with china and japan, japan sends cars in here like it's candy, cars, cars, by the millions. we give them practically nothing. we have to have balance, we have to have fair trade. i'm a free trader by the way 100% but we have to have fair trade and smart trade. last year it was $505 billion with china, one country. okay? trade imbalance. i mean, we're losing a fortune. we can't do it.
at some point we can't do it. and we don't have the right people negotiating. we have people -- as i said, they're political hacks, we have hacks negotiating. so we're going to have great borders, we're going to have strong borders, we're going to be careful with who we let into the country. we can't allow people that are going to cause trouble. we have enough problems without nor trouble. when i announced on june 16th i went down stairs in trump tower, it's like the academy awards with these guys, with the press, and i started talking about illegal immigration and everyone went crazy and two weeks later everybody started saying, you know, maybe trump has a point. and then four weeks later -- right? and then -- and then four weeks later they were saying bah, bah, and they started coming to me and saying we're just as tough as him. they're not. in fact, sheriff joe from arizona, he endorsed me last week, sheriff palin endorsed me.
when sheriff joe endorses you you have the toughest on immigration, but what is funny and i laugh because even during the debate somebody said over the last week or so i've been hearing and we're going to build a wall. i said, whoa. and my wife said it to me last week, i won't mention the name of the person but he was talking about we will build a wall at the border and my wife kept, darling, did he just said going to build a wall? first time we've heard that. look, these are politicians, okay? i heard jeb bush who is a total lightweight i heard jeb bush say before, yes, marco rubio is a very, very good friend of mine. i said he is not a friend of yours, he is not a end from. he hates him. why does he have to say he is a friend of mine? he just said it on wolf blitzer, i was listening. marco is a friend of mine mine. he is a dear friend. this is political stuff, folks. we've got to get out of it. we've got to get out of it. not friends, you know, not friends. and they lie and they lie so much. it's just incredible.
we have to get away from these politicians and we have to bring sanity to this country. the nice part about me is because i'm not being taken care of by the oil companies and drug companies and by all of the other companies and by countries, by countries because you have not only companies you have companies and countries that have lobbyists and that debate the other night, which everybody did say i won but i won't say that, you know, in the -- [ applause ] >> "time magazine" did a poll, now, i have zero influence over "time magazine" so they did a poll, almost 70% said i won the debate and i think next -- next was 6 or 7%. so that's pretty good. but, no, i love doing t but i listen to the whole thing and then i had to point out to the audience the crowd was all donors. in fact, i needed some tickets and we called the rnc and they said, oh, i'm sorry, we don't have any, they were all bought up by the donors. they actually mean the donors,
special interests and lobbyists. they don't want to say that. right? i said what do you mean? that's not fair to me i'm the only one that doesn't have any donors, that means the room was stacked. i had 1,000 people in the room, most of whom were donors to these other guys and people would say something that was like, you know, nothing and you would hear clapping. that's because they're desperate to have these people elected. so it was sort of funny but i had to point it out. who else would point it out? i said this room is stacked with donors. no, i wanted to do it because if i won the debate and i think i did, i mean, i know the points like anybody else but i won the debate but when somebody else has things that are really bad and they get applause they're only getting applause because these people have total control over your local politician and federal politician and national politicians. i will tell you we're going to change it around. we're going to change it around. we have -- we have a big day coming up tomorrow. it's really important.
so i don't want your money. a lot of these guys come and they ask for money. can you believe it? i don't want any money. i don't need money. i built a great company like one of the great companies, i have some of the greatest assets in the world, very little debt, great -- i don't need that. and the only reason i mention that is because that's the kind of thinking we need in the country. enough with these stupid people, that's the kind of thinking we need in the country. i wouldn't mention that. you know, it takes guts to run for president, it does. i told you the story when i was coming down the escalator i took a deep breath i said to my wife, let's go, but i took a deep, deep breath because it does, it's something -- i have never done this before and i'm enjoining it, but we have to bring sanity, i'm not doing it because of that. as much as i love you people, i could be on a beach someplace, it's not so bad, right? we could be someplace else. the fact is i love the end result what's going to be. we're going to have a phenomenal strong powerful rich country
again. >> one woman came up to me, a wonderful woman she said, you know, mr. trump, i'm supporting you and i really like you but i don't like one thing, you say you're going to make our country rich. i said, you know, i can't help it. if we don't make it rich, i see that hat, if we don't make it rich we can't make it great. we need money. we're no different than a person, we're no different than a company, we have to be rich and we can be rich. we're being drained by all of these devaluations and these other countries that are run by smarter people than our people to put it mildly, they're smarter people and they don't have the same influence, we're influenced by all of the money. when you see these pacs, when you see a guy like jeb, a guy that is an average guy or less than average guy where they give him $128 million to waste and he takes ads against me, i think he spent $25 million on negative
ads against me and my poll numbers went up. it's incredible. you see him on television, he wants to raise taxes, he doesn't like the second amendment, he -- all the things that i say exactly the opposite. i'm doing the biggest tax cut, in fact, i just talked to larry kud low the great economist and he was saying trump has the best tax plan, but then i have a politician, this guy and he's on television saying that i want to raise taxes and i don't like the second amendment. i'm the strongest -- you have heard me talk. i'm the strongest person on the second amendment that exists of these candidates. not even close. so when you hear a guy talking about he wants to do harm to the second amendment, i just hope people don't believe these things. these are lying people, these are lying bad people. so we are going to do something that's going to be spectacular and you're going to be there and this is a very special group of people and that's why i wanted to do a do over. believe it or not, i couldn't
get the plane in. i took a little heat for that for the snow and now it snows again, i said there's no way i'm going to -- i said -- i said i don't care if i have to come through the yukon, there's no way. [ applause ] >> and i thought -- with that i think what we'll do is we'll take a few questions so go ahead. anybody have any questions. yeah, go ahead. go ahead had a. in the back. do you have a question? yeah. go ahead. [ inaudible ]. >> very powerful. >> first, mr. trump, thank you for visiting the great town of you here. >> thank you. >> we have a lot of economic development going on in this town, probably more than any other town in new hampshire right now, but what will you do as a country to make us more economically competitive in the future? >> we're going to bring our jobs back. you know, i passed some of the
factories and i passed some of the old factories, some empty and some with senior citizen housing and different housing. the housing is all great and all the senior citizen stuff but we need jobs, not just a place to stay. we need jobs. they used to be booming and now they're empty or they were converted into in many cases senior citizen housing. we need right now in this country we need jobs. that's what we need. and the jobs have gone. they've gone to mexico. i mean, for this area what's happened to you with mexico with people that don't know what they're doing with grade agreements, it's incredible. i'm going to bring the jobs back and they will come back here but they're going to come back all over the country. it's important. we love the country. i want the automobile industry to come, let them come back to michigan. ford is building a $2.5 billion plant in mexico and then they will sell cars and sell them into this country for no tax, no nothing. what do we get out of it? how does it help us when ford is
building this plant, $2.5 billion. do you know how big this thing is? they're going to make thousands and millions of cars and trucks and parts. how does it help us it's in mexico -- how does it help us that they're going to make these cars and sell many of them into the united states along with trucks and parts? where is it good for us? you know that they closed factories in the united states in order to do this so i went to the wharton school of finance, you went to your own schools. whether you went to school or not, it's no good. okay? it's no good. i tell it all the time i would say, folks, if you're going to go there we're charging you a tax. if you want to leave us, make cars and sell them back you have to pay a big tax. you do that they're not doing that, they're going to stay right here. 100% they're going to stay right here. and so we're going to do things. and first of all, congratulations, i hear you do a great job so congratulations.
really. but unfortunately 99% of the country has got problems. when you hear about the 5% unemployment rate it's sad that they can even get away with it because the real rate to be 25, some people think it's 42%, but you have tens of millions of people that have given up looking for a job and honestly i go to dallas, i go to all these places, i have 20,000 people filling an arena, tonight you are all invited by the way over to the verizon. who is going tonight? are you all going? i hope you're going to go because we're going to have an amazing event there tonight. and again the snow, but i think we'll still have it and it will still be a great event. it's going to be amazing. much more important don't go tonight if it's going to hold back your vote tomorrow. tomorrow is more important than tonight. but you know we have to do something, we have to do something fast. most of the country is in turmoil and when i get these massive people, 35,000 people recently in mobile, alabama, and
they show up 35,000 people. when i get all of these people, that's because we don't have jobs. and the stock market today is down, by the way, almost 350 points. is anybody getting killed in the stock market with your money? yeah. this guy. well, it will come back. let me get in. you have a conflict of interest, i'll get it up. but the stock market is absolutely being killed. what is it? >> 384. >> 384. wow. that's a big hit. the stock market is the worst in its history for the first month. in its history for the first period. let's see what happens. that was our only vest i think of hope because the stock market was good but everything else was bad. i kept saying, don't worry, the stock market will follow and that's what happened. okay. how are you? >> hi. yes or no, will you return the contribution that you received from white nationalist william daniel johnson? >> who are they?
i don't know who he is. never heard of him. >> he gave you a contribution. >> who is it? so a white nationalist. >> i would certainly return it if you think it's appropriate. i know nothing about him. >> you've been asked to return it. >> i have. okay. then i would return it. don't be so angry. have had a rung and z the
disease for the moose are up. >> it's interesting. you know, my sons are hunters and they love hunting and they know all about your moose up here. they told me about -- they were actually telling me that. is that mostly disease. >> wow. that's amazing. i will look at that. that's incredible. yeah, about go ahead. >> do you support the death penalty for convicted drug dealers that are convicted of causing a death? >> well, i'm a big -- i do support the death penalty, i would have to be a little bit careful with that. if somebody kills somebody i support the death penalty and i support the death penalty for policemen that get killed when they go -- we had a case in new york they go into the car, they
put the gun to an officer's head and pull the trigger. death penalty all the way. i've always supported the death penalty. i've always supported the death penalty. i don't even understand people that don't. you have cases that are so egregious where a guy will come up to an 85-year-old woman, punch her in the face, shoot her in the head, rape her, kill her and then they put him in jail for 25 years. how you can even think of that? and i have friends that are good people and they say, no, no, it's cruel and unusual punishment. what is that? it's like the other day during the debate they talked about the whole thing with water boarding and they said to actually ted cruz, good guy, they were talking to him about it and you could see he was hedging, he didn't want to get involved too much. well, i don't know. you know, you could see t i mean, i understand because maybe they feel it's politically incorrect to talk about water
boarding. water boarding is sort of the least form of for tour if it's torture, some people think it's not torture but it's sort of a minimal form. they talked to him and he was tentative to put it mildly. they say, what do you think? i said i'm totally in favor of water boarding but i'm also in favor of far worse than water boarding because people are chopping off the heads of our people. they're shoppichopping off the . i don't know. maybe i lose votes if i say that. i don't really care. you have to be yourself. one of the reasons i'm doing so well, i don't have pollsters, these guys can't speak. when bush was asked a question when he first started about is water in iraq good. i was opposed to it and i'm a militaristic person, our military is going to be so big, so strong, so powerful nobody will mess with us and i don't want to use it, but you have to know. they asked him was the war in iraq good or bad. well, i don't know. remember that, five days, six days he gave one answer,
another, he went back and forth. it is a guy who is pathetic. and then finally the pollsters told him what to say and he said it was bad. of course it was bad. we spent $2 trillion. we got nothing. thousands of lives. wounded warriors who i love all over the place. got nothing. and now iran has taken over iraq. that's the only deal they made that's better than the $150 billion. i always say the 150 -- that was one of the greatest deals i have ever seen. the greatest deal was we gave them iraq and iraq has the second largest oil reserves in the world, iran is doing that. now they're taking over yemen, they want saudi arabia, they will go and take over saudi arabia. and then saudi arabia we defend them for practically nothing. we have bases where we pay rent. we pay rent in saudi arabia. now, i like the saudis, i do business with them, they're great. why are we paying rent in saudi arabia? they were making a billion dollars a day before the oil went down now they're making half. okay?
we pay rent for military bases we protect them. why are we paying rent? they should pay a lot of money if we're going to protect them. south korea we protect. i ordered thousands and thousands of televisions and all sorts of things, air conditioners, i order thousands and thousands of them, they all come through south korea. they make a fortune. so when north korea acts up with this maniac, this he act up, we start the ships, we this, we that, what do we get? we get nothing. we get peanuts. a fraction of the real cost. a fraction. and they're good, i have buildings in south korea, but do you know what, we've got to be taken care of. we're not a nation that has to do this. we protect germany. nobody even knows that. we protect as an example japan. we have a treaty with japan. if japan gets attacked we have to go to their defense start world war 3. right? if we get attacked japan doesn't
have to do anything. no, these are the deals that we have. so we get attacked, we get attacked, japan -- oh, that's too bad you got attacked. bye-bye. have fun. enjoy yourself. they get attacked we have to go to war. i say who makes these deals? politicians. crooked politicians. in many cases not stupid politicians. they have people from japan that take care of them through the lobbyists, through special interests, for other reasons, a lot of industry. so, you know, those days are gone. if i get in you will be so prouproud of our country. and we're using our smartest people. we are not going to use the dumb dwrees, we're going to use the great geniuses many of whom built great fortunes and would love to do it. they don't want money. you look like a rough guy even with a bad leg. looks like a tough cookie this guy. i wouldn't mess around with him even with that. right? anyway. so we -- we have to get smart
and we have to get tough and we have to be vigilant. when i talked about the muslims everybody -- same thing when i talked about illegal immigration and mexico, oh, the heat. then i talked about the muslims. we have a problem. everybody wanted to say -- we have a president that won't talk about radicular islamic terrorism. won't talk about it. he won't mention t i mean, when it's 100% like in paris. 100%. in california the 14 people that were killed, 100%. we have a president that won't even talk about it. if you can't talk about it you can't even use the name you're never going to solve the problem. when i said we have to have a moratorium and a ban until we find out what's going on, it's temporary but it's got to be a ban. i took a tremendous amount of heat and now everyone is sort of saying trump is right. he's right. look at what's going on in the world. look at germany, look at swieden, look at these places, look at what's happening in the world. so i will tell you we have to do
what's right. and in my case i'd do something that's a little different. if it's votes i don't go to a pollster, i didn't go to a pollster and said can you tell me how it will be if i tell the truth about what's going on with radical islamic terrorism. i didn't say to a poll ter these people, they pay so much money, they can't function without a pollster. they can't function. everything is polled. that's our politicians. i have much more money than them but i don't have a pollster. i don't want a pollster. i say the truth. most of the people in here understand what the truth is and they get it and many times it's probably bad for me but i don't care. if it means i lose because i say the truth i'd rather lose. does that make sense? yes, go ahead. [ applause ] >> i'm are from conway. 15 years ago i lost my 19-year-old son to a prescription drug overdose and i've been fighting this fight for a long time, talking to a
lot of the so-called politicians, i heard you speak yesterday up in plymouth, took me two hours to drive down by the way, i beat your hour and a half. the situation -- >> did you like what i had to say? >> you did, you said one thing that's wrong, though, you are not a politician, you are a public servant. a public servant -- we need -- we need a leader that's going to really tackle this problem. i think the last time this this country took the drug issue seriously was when ronald reagan and george h.w. bush were in office. we had nancy reagan just say no. a lot of people thought that was trivial but it really wasn't. this was my boy. >> beautiful. >> this is my boy. >> beautiful. >> that passed away. >> and with prescription. so what happened? he had -- >> well, he was a so-called weekend warrior as i called him, a lot of kids start off with marijuana and think it's no big
deal and today's drug culture all the drugs have come together. when we look at, you know, obviously heroin came all about because of the prescription drug problem, it created a vacuum. you know, we had a methamphetamine problem when sued fred driven was locked down we had a meth problems, mexicans jumped on that, too. the majority of the heroin coming across the border is coming from mexico and south america. we need a president and leader that really will take this on. i'd love to have your wife -- there's many, many family groups like mine that are out there and i think tapping into that effort and tapping into that energy can make a difference in our country. i mean, i could go on and on, but -- >> i can see that. no, but -- no, but i can see that. no, the love of your son is incredible and i can see that. you should want to. i'd be in the same position. >> i mean, i'd love to get your
wife and ivanka be part of the new power group. when you get to the white house i will reach out. >> you let us know and we will. you know the guys, you call the mayor or somebody and i would do that in two seconds. no, because i see the passion. i see the passion and you're right. it's things that could have been avoided and they start on the heroin because it's so cheap. there's so much of it. you know, people from here they say how cheap it is and that's the problem. it's so cheap and it's so readily available that everybody starts it and that's where it starts and frankly a lot of times that's where it ends because it's got such power. when i say politician i always say i hate calling myself a politician because i know the politicians too well and i do. i usually don't even say the word politician because i hate calling myself a politician i guess probably by definition over the last six or seven months that's who i'm but i refuse so say i'm a politician. go ahead. >> my mind is going a million miles an hour here.
there was something i wanted to say and i went blank. i'm sorry, folks. but the border is important and i understand what we need to do and there's a lot of parents out there that want to get those parent groups back started again. i know what i wanted to talk about, the 6,000 drug dealers that were let out of jail, hopefully we won't have a repeat of that. >> of the 6,000 almost every single one of them will be back selling drugs. okay? these people are babies that think differently and a lot of them don't even think differently they just don't care. i don't think they care. it's almost like they don't like the country. out of those 6,000 every single one of them will be back selling drugs. it will be rare for one that doesn't. it's a tough situation. i'm sorry about your son and we will -- mary, you remember that, you bring a group -- if we win you're going to come to the white house, i will bring a group. >> i will absolutely make sure. >> i can learn much more from steve than i can learn from these consultants that get paid
millions of dollars, you know. >> thank you kindly. >> i can learn -- honestly -- so much more from steve than i can from these consultants that get paid millions and millions of dollars by the governments and all of the different groups that hire them. he knows more on his one hand than they know. now, as far as the wall is concerned, mexico in all fairness, mexico could stop this stuff. they're tough as hell. they could stop it. they could stop people from coming across the border. they have no respect for our country. they have no respect. they could stop it in one day before the wall. the wall is going up, folks. i don't care. no. no. the wall is going up. [ applause ] >> but mexico -- the mexican government could stop that. they could stop it in two minutes. do you know in mexico, a friend of mine was in mexico, they were on a vacation and he overstayed for two days and he gets a knock on the door from the police, why are you here? you're not supposed to be here. questioning him. this is a business guy, he
didn't know what was going on. by the way, that's the right thing, why are you here? you are supposed to have left the country. can you imagine us doing that in our country? they just walk right through. our anchor babies. try having an anchor baby in mexico. just try it. they'll laugh at you. they wouldn't even know what you're talking about. go ahead, man. >> thank you very much for running for president. we really need a better president than we have now. me rand my husband we are small business owners, we have been in business for 43 years and i would like to know what you're going to do for the people that have been here struggling to stay in business and trying to provide for the people in this area. we are at the point where we don't know how long -- >> well, part of the problem you have is regulation, right? the regulations are so brutal on small businesses and we will be getting rid of so many of those regulations. we may go back 20 years. but they have put regulations on us and all it does is
bureaucracy. it's like common core. i'm totally opposed to common core. you have to see the department of education. [ applause ] >> you know, guys like -- guys like jeb bush are totally in favor of common core. they want your kids educated from washington and they're weak on immigration. remember they come as an act of love. that was jeb bush. they come as an act of love. give me a break they come as an act of love. you can't have that. with the small businesses and businesses generally including large businesses the regulations are so onerous you can't survive. go ahead. >> the fees that the government imposes on us. >> the fees, that's right. >> but the other thing the common core is a very important one for me because we hire people that can't even subtract and add and do percentages and i have to do it myself. >> and they've been through the whole thing. >> they're college students. >> nothing like education being locally based. i've seen it, i've watched it. i'm a big believer in education, i've had a great education, it
helped me a lot. i will tell you education is so important. common core is a disaster. it's good for the people in washington, but it's a disaster. we're going to have education -- and just to put it -- so in the world we're number 30. 30 in the world in education. we're number one on cost per pupil but number 30 in the world. not going to happen anymore, folks, common core will be out of here. yeah, go ahead had a. >> i drove 500 miles to meet you, mr. trump, to ask for your help in education. i remember when our country was great again and i believe it can be great again. >> i agree. >> our middle class, lower middle class family, i'm the first person in my family to go to college, i went to penn, graduated cum laude. another alum. so i went back to rural pennsylvania and i started a nonprofit based -- o focused on literacy and education, for four years i've been giving free books away, we have given 75,000
worth of books to kids in northwestern rural pennsylvania in our county, but we need a different kind of school, i came here to ask for your help in raising funds for what i call the first equal opportunity school. >> give me some stuff. give it to him. >> great. >> thank you. thank you. very interesting. yes, go ahead. >> okay. [ inaudible ] >> the national debt was $10 trillion and now it's -- >> it's -- yeah. it's going up so fast. go ahead. >> okay. it went up a lot. >> yeah, to put it mildly. >> in the last eight years. >> it's going to go up another $2 trillion very soon because of the new budget they approved. >> how did this happen and what do we do? >> it happened because we have incompetent politicians, it happened because we have crooked politicians, it happened because we have politicians getting massive campaign contributions and they're protecting companies
and countries and with me none of that's going to happen. don't worry, we will get it down. >> how do we do that? >> it's called competition. i told you the story about the drug companies, in the military you have the same thing, in education you have the same thing. you have the same thing everywhere. no competition. it's going to go down tremendously, it's going to go down. okay. yes. >> what is your exact plan to stop isis? [ applause ] >> you have no idea how many people ask that question. you know, in one way you
to iraq and syria and sending 50 soldiers. big news conference. why are we telling people this? why are we telling people this? now these 50 young beautiful people have targets on their back. everyone is looking for them. if he wouldn't have said that, he wouldn't know. he wants the publicity. it's not a good thing to say. what are you doing with 50 people. why do you say this? when they say what are you going to do with isis? i want to take it away. i want to do it.
they have banking circuits that are sophisticated. i have a chance of winning. you have to get out and vote tomorrow. if i win, i'm not going to be talking and saying, i use the expression general george patton. these were great semi modern day generals. they didn't talk. can you imagine general george patton being asked sitting on a television show talking about what he's going do. he likes smacking people in the face. he would smack the anchor in the face. i don't want to be talking about things like this. we will win. we will hit him very, very hard.
go ahead. >> i was curious as to your thoughts for the congressman and their lifelong payment. i don't know of any job in the world like that. >> i'm absolutely okay with term limits. to me it's not the most important thing. i will be honest. the term limit are the voters. you will vote them out. i viewed that as the term limits. i am okay with term limits. they are protective of themselves. they don't have to take obamacare. little things like that. you tell me how good is obamacare. how good is obamacare when they don't have to take it. they don't have to take it. we have to take it, they don't. that tells you everything. i'm okay with getting rid of the term. okay? maybe one more and we will go out.
who has a good interesting question. he's a rough looking good. go ahead, darling. go ahead. >> i'm a flight attendant with united airlines. >> a young flight attendant. >> in watching the news, i saw my airplane with my friends on flight 175. they were young and good kids. good kids. two of them just amy and her boyfriend, ted, had just goddtt engaged the week before. >> you were on that flight
before? >> 24 hours. they were good kids. young. i could have been their mom. a lot of survival guilt and when i got back on the airplane towards the trip, i was so proud. i was not afraid. i was looking for them and i don't know what i would have done. i was so angry and sad. together it was tough to function. >> and angry is okay, you know. being angry is okay. we will make you happy again, but being angry is okay. go ahead. >> but the two together, if i had to walk away and i loved my job. i know the world has changed.
>> the world is a different place. and we allowed it to become a different place. it's not that it should be different. we allowed it through weakness to be a different place. it's an interesting word that she uses. she talks about anger and i like that you talked about that word. are you finished? >> i was going to say i haven't walked away from my job. a lot of -- they are so young, why not me. this little girl asked about isis. i asked governor christie and governor bush what they would do to protect my family and my friends. north korea to go knocking on the door at the white house and
saying you gave iran $150 million. what are you going to give me? >> i understand what you are going through. recently before the previous debate, the one i missed i am happy with. i raised $6 million for the vets. i'm happy with that. good or bad, i raised $6 million. last week it was an amazing story. recently as you know, she made a speech. and she talked about it because she was being hit. we are angry at the stupidity of our government.
the fact that we had the weakness of our leaders. and they asked me about anger. as per what she was saying. i'm really not angry. i thought to myself, i am angry and a lot of people are angry. we are not angry people. i'm not an angry person. we are angry at the level of incompetence and stupidity we see in our government and until we correct it, we will continue to be angry and i'm damn angry and so are the people that show up by the thousands. there is nothing wrong with being angry and we will get that straightened out. it's interesting that nicky said donald trump is my friend and it's a different thing. the truth is and i'm not knocking her. i'm saying certainly the tone
changed. we are angry and not angry people. when we see the stupidity we see and they get five killers when we give iran $150 billion, they get nothing. if the money was passed, yeah, we are angry. hopefully not for long. when we see the stupidity and incompetence, nothing wrong with being angry. i hope you are angry enough to vote tomorrow. thank you.
>> election day is always exciting. we will begin and we will be live in new hampshire and will be showing our viewers what's happening at the polling placing in a couple of key parts in the manchester area. since 1992, we had a good partnership with wmur in manchester, new hampshire. this year as we have done in the past, a chance to show a national audience how this is unfolding through the eyes of the local media. we will have the results and showing the speeches, but we will be showing them in their entirety. our talking heads will be the viewers as we hear from them and take calls and tweets and get a sense of what they are saying about this race. >> republican presidential candidate marco rubio campaigns in new hampshire ahead of the primary with a rally in nash wa. we have it live at 6:30 eastern.
we take you to a campaign with bernie sanders speaking to reporters in durham, new hampshire at about 8:00 eastern live on c-span. >> joining us from new hampsh e hampshire, manchester. the pollster and director of the political research center at suffolk, university here to talk about the final poll heading into tomorrow's primary. let's look at the boston globe. they did this for the boston globe and headlined the new poll shows rubio closing in on trump. trump had the lead for the last few weeks heading into new hampshire, but rubio is making ground. explain what's going on. >> he the lead for the last 70 polls taken. an incredible streak. he has maintained the lead because there so many viable candidates in the second tier. if there were only one or two,
it might be different. again, this poll closed prior to the republican debate and rubio had surged into second place at 19%, kasich at 13%. many other viable candidates like jeb bush and chris christie and ted cruise. the anti-trump vote is split up by a multiple of good candidates in new hampshire and that made trump's 29% or 30% stand tall. it's not a skyscraper of a percentage. it towers over the other opponents and he maintained his lead. >> donald trump to cnn yesterday sort of tried to diminish expectations. but then he said i want to win. is it looking like he is going to win. he was the first in iowa, but the polls were wrong there. >> that are is true. but the dynamic is different with the viability of the second
tier candidates. you can have a kasich or a christie surge, but they have to surge past two others in the poll. or more. i wouldn't count jeb bush out either. he was at 10% and some had him at single digits. if you are looking at 10 to 15% among five candidates, that consumes 50 to 75% of the vote and trump has the other 30. it's going to take an all or nothing movement behind one or two of the other candidates for trump to lose. >> what about the voters in new hampshire waking up yesterday morning to this headline in the boston herald after saturday's gop debate. choke. with marco rubio on the front. just had he needs to be strong, rubio wilts under christie attack. what impact do you think they will have? >> the headline doesn't surprise me. my friends at the herald, we were partners prior to us
partnering with the globe. they tend to utilize in a word or two and splash format what resulted from this event. we did not perform well. the question is how many undecideds will move against him because he was winning undecideds was he winning in our poll. also second choice votes. an interesting piece of this for rubio is rubio was the second choice of all of the candidates. that's an important indicator because it informs us that the voters say as candidates dropout like mike huckabee and others who stayed in, those are rotating to marco rubio. that may change or may have changed since the debate and we will see tomorrow. >> the new hampshire union
leader endorsed chris christie and they said christy is the real deal in the editorial by the publisher. how might he do? there is a path there and that's going to take the others freezing and him accelerating towards trump. i'm not saying it won't happen, but given the dynamics and he is up against strong candidates. >> the boston globe in their editions cites the poll that you did. some 33% of republicans and they still may change their minds. >> there two pieces that are important for new hampshire.
the voters from christie, kasich, and bush. they are all the time with their profile from the republican party. as votes rotate among those three, candidate goes up and it's like whack a mole. they go up and down and so on. that's the first piece. the second is the interparty entrance of independence. we screen out everybody. we screen out people who say they are 50-50 or somewhat likely to vote because we want to report only those people who are absolutely going to vote. but people who may be somewhat likely to vote could be very likely in the republican primary yesterday. that's what drives them crazy. the interplay of independence that may be voting strategically
in either party. >> what happened in the past? why is it that they seem to make up their mind at the last minute and also sort of used a strategy and might break or decide i'm going to go to the republican primary. in mass we call them unenrolled. you have less loyalty. they are not loyal to anybody except a person or pro or anti-government, whatever that might be. they don't like the infrastructure and they hold out until the end. until the last day an empty who might be a likely voter in one party could say the race is closing and i would like to vote in the other party.
they try to use screening and voter intensity. teak her gardner said the turn out will be more than it ever have been. the campaigns have to adjust in terms of getting out the vote operations. taking your questions and comments, they want to hear from you this morning. then how do you candidates strategize?
you were talking about these independents to try to get the voters to come to your primary and vote for you? >> it comes down to voter identification by calling and door knocking. are they voters and are they strong or soft orleaners or neutral. charming them and trying to do anything they can to get them on the side of the candidates and then the most important thing is drawing them out on election day. do you need a ride or a baby-sitter? what do you need if the operation in both campaigns had operations in play a month ago. do you need an absentee ballot? they are obviously a big part of new hampshire voting.
these are the nuts and bolts operations that make the difference between a one-point margin or a 10-point margin. >> let's talk about female voters. we were asking the viewers how important is it to have the first female president? female voters in new hampshire, what are they saying some. >> in our polling on the democratic side, we had hillary clinton winning among women voters. that disagrees with the polls that said bernie sanders is leading hillary clinton with women voters. there is a divide with the younger voter who is tend to be with sanders. you mentioned the "new york times" article. and older voters tend to be with hillary clinton. that's what's going on. if you are thinking about operations, hillary is going to be either pulling out the people who are absolutely strongly supporting her by virtue of voter identification or doing a
blind poll that is a get out the vote operation or a blind poll of older women knowing the polling that she leads among that demographic. >> what. >> is she gaining ground first of all and what could make this competitive or possibly she wins in new hampshire. we had this a nine-point race when others had it a 25 or 30 point race. we had most recently at a nine-point race. we are not showing anything but a close single digit race and have been. if you look at the clear politics, the numbers have come down. the clear politics was 21 or 22 for sanders's lead and now it's down to 15 and the lay polls that came out after this suffolk
poll have shown what we have shown all along. this is going to be a close race. depending on the storm, voter turn out. anything can happen when you have a single digit race. >> let's get to elizabeth, a republican. thanks for hanging on the line. >> good morning. i watch you every morning. >> glad you do. thank you. >> i like politics. i am from -- excuse my accent. i am from romania and when i came here i was 53. i learned from place i work. how much i can do english. our country is too destroyed
now. that the money from china is terrible. mr. trump, he is interested for money because he has money and he supports his money. his interest is for our country. >> okay, elizabeth. is that what is resonating with new hampshire voters up there? >> it's amazing. she is your first caller and i was going to say donald trump has the most loyal base that i can measure in new hampshire when we ask the question about is your mind made up or could you change. there some candidates whose voters are saying 35 or 40% or higher they can change. in trump's case it's in the teens and low 20s. his votes are solid. people who like him, they are voting for him.
whether they turn out or not is a different question depending on that. they are decided and they are voting for him. that told me he is poised to win. >> chris, a democrat, good morning. >> my question, i was going to ask if you thought that hillary could come back given her previous polls and showing her well behind. it seems like you generally answer that question. a lot of people like mr mr. sanders's strong showing as being geographically close to his home state, but i'm also reading that many, many months ago he was far behind mrs. clinton in that state.
he should have been doing stronger earlier on. do you agree and think that there other reasons beyond the closeness of vermont that might be leading to mr. sanders's search. >> that's a terrific question. i would tell you this and to your point, the polls that were coming out that shows sanders trailing, he was losing the two biggest counties. in the counties that align, he was still winning those. i do believe that there is a geographical advantage in those four counties. if you go to a map of new hampshire, you go right up the vermont border. those four counties even when
sanders was losing, there is a geographical advantage and i wouldn't discount that argument. to your point, sanders's advantage is demographic in terms of independence versus democrats. he does well with independents. younger voters are iffy. we are hearing differences about whether younger voters will turn out. men, some are conservative to hurt hillary clinton, but there is an advantage there. i would say there has been an advantage. those four counties that i am talking about are not the lion's chair of the vote. they have 50% of the vote. it was an advantage. >> let me ask you about bill clinton.
there is a double-edged sword for that. bill clinton has been popular. >> i was just going to make a comment. that's the area that the ladies said were criminals. a lot of people are writing about george bush and the problem they have when that happened. they are blaming obama for everything that is going and actually i think obama is being
manipulated by the republicans. >> okay, victor. i think he was talking about the immigration issue and that was part of the debate saturday night. >> how people are not engaged at all. i think that's true. if you go back to the 2012. we poled people who are not likely voters or registered voters. there 100 million people that won't vote. it will be higher this time around. think about that. citizens, americans who are eligible to vote and over 100 million people don't vote. and the gentlemen say more and
more people are just going to vote. that's a very big problem that both the political parties and we have to address. >> gregory in alabama. it is bess emmer, alabama? you are on the air. >> i'm from the heart of dixie and i'm a democratic person. from my point of view, the prejudice that goes on in this nation this divide and conquer is shameful. i have been around and i'm 52 years of age. i just hope that we can overcome all of this prejudice and animosity towards blacks and whites and women and men and for
us to be called the united states of america, that's a laugh. i feel like we can be a better nation than we are now. >> we as pollsters don't help matters quite frankly. we report our results and people want to know. what were the numbers among blacks and hispanics and whites. we feed into that. it's not just race. it's geography and gender and age and political party and philosophy. you name it. it's probably not going to be better. even within the democratic
party. it's a unifier in terms of race relations. go to south carolina and the other states, the discussion will be how is hillary clinton going to perform versus bernie sanders? that juxtaposition doesn't help in terms of that conversation. >> what are about this demographic. the pollsters should ask the deciding question. are you employed. the 92 million jobless will be voting for trump. you seek employment or have you given up? >> one of the voter polls in the massive americans, there was a higher percentage of people on disability who has given up. a high percentage of people who don't like other parties. like they have in other
countries. >> my comment is i feel that the media is -- the free media is distorting a lot of election results and a lot of the polls that you seem to, you know, be in that business. why do you think that the media has a disproportionate amount of influence over the electorate? >> i can only talk about my partnership. i have been partners at one point or another with 7 news in boston. with the boston globe and "usa
today." i have never nor would i tolerate someone saying to me that we need to ask this question this way. i won't do it. if it's not a fair question or unbiassed question, they may say they would like to test the waters on guns and gun control. we would like to test the waters on -- i may allow them to suggest the question, but we have a responsibility to ask a fair and unbiassed question. >> let's talk about senator ted cruz. what happened in iowa, he claims and he apologized, but he claims there was a mix up with him learning from cnn that ben carson was going back to florida and he apologized. >> i don't think, but it starts a narrative.
ted cruz needs to be careful if something happens tomorrow with the robo calling incident. you have two data points. if he finishes third or worse, the only person on the republican side that will finish first or second in iowa will be donald trump. i finished second in iowa and i finished first or second. i am not seeing that in the polling. he does have a path. even rubio who is going in and
had good and a double-digit standing. >> let me go through the headlines. first the "new york times." they tested rivals and since vulnerabilities and then you go to "the washington post" and have the headline. rivals exploit rubio's slip up with a field that may be delayed in new hampshire. you also have this from the "wall street journal." rubio aims to move past his debate set back is how they frame it in the "wall street journal". they see his vulnerabilities. lengthy story about them and his rivals going after marco rubio.
the narrative going in if he does finish second before the debate and gets close to donald trump, republicans will say they threw everything at this guy. everyone turned on him and ganged up on him in the debate and he had a credible showing. what i am saying is if he exceeds expectations, he is in a more powerful position. he would be the first to say i am giving my best performance and going on to south carolina. if he exceeds expectations, it could benefit him. >> how many tickets are there out of new hampshire? >> i think they are 3.5. >> you have to explain that. >> i see trump is prevailing.
i'm not sure about that. rubio, i still believe he is going to be someplace in that top three unless kasich and bush or christie pass him. cruz has a solid percentage, but the percentages might be so fine, i say 3.5. it might be so fine that there might be an additional path. i can only think back to big iowa winners in the past. they came into new hampshire and they hit a brick wall. cruz might do better because the votes are being split up in the moderate path and even in the conservative path less so. donald trump is more of a pop lift. i am not sure i see cruz at 20%. i could be dead wrong. >> we will go to louisiana.
an independent. >> good morning. i would like to say i am a disabled veteran and i am going to support and vote for hillary clinton because bernie, he has a good platform and i like what he is saying, but we have to be realistic. it will never happen what he is trying to do. what he really wants. i think hillary is more rounded for foreign affairs and domestic and she knows what it takes. with ted and rubio -- >> that's the argument she is making. she is more pragmatic.
what do you think? >> i agree with that and i was thinking of the cross tabs in new hampshire among people who say favorable to sanders and hillary clinton. there people who say excited for both and like both. you have to wonder whether or not voters in new hampshire though they would vote for hillary and be excited for her, they want to send a message and want to keep bernie sanders's momentum alive in new hampshire going forward to advance the progressive agenda. she is going to attack and away from the progressive comments and policies that bernie sanders has talked about. a lot of voters are afraid of that.
you might have people voting for sanders for just that reason even though they like both. >> on the line for democrats, good morning. >> guests mentioned fair and unbiassed questions, i'm sure it's something he takes seriously and a core value. i would like to have a question. i read some reports on line and i don't know if it has been picked up in the mainstream yet. the clinton campaign has been doing push pulling against bernie sanders and the report i read was for nevada specifically and hillary clinton did push pulling against barack obama in 2008. >> the calls, they start out by asking normal unbiassed
questions that they would think it's a polling activity. they inject negative aspects. to provide a respondent that they do not have or is aware of and to measure the corresponding difference between where they were before and where they were after. the text book said that push pulling is not a bad thing if you are providing additional information that they don't know for a measurement tool. they get a negative rap when they imply or give the respondent information that is not true or confirmed.
and using that as a tool to impact their choice. as a pollster back in another life, there were clients who came to me and said my opponent is this or that. i said show me the documentation. they have some personal issue or whatever. the key is, it's fair game if you provide them. all campaigns do it. it's not just hillary clinton. it's to provide additional information. you may have information on bernie sanders that you think is damaging and the population that you are polling doesn't change or doesn't believe it is. the only way to measure that and make an informed decision is to actually conduct the polling and provide the information.
>> let's go to ann, independent. >> thank you for letting me on. i am a progressive independent unaffiliated in rhode island and i'm calling because i want to clarify bernie sanders's term, revolution. this is about the people of america participating more heavily in the political process and also getting more progressive senators and governors elected. the participation in a level in american politics is well below most nations and that means that
people are letting somebody else decide what's in their best interest. it works against them. i have examples. i think obama had very many good ideas and intents, but has been very stymied. not just because the senate and congress became more republican as well as governorships, but also we have other examples. we have senator fine gold in wisconsin fighting now to take back his position from ron johnson. >> i'm going to take those two examples and get a response. >> yeah. it's a great point. it goes to my earlier point.
think about it. barack obama you mentioned hope and change, big turn out. it appeared that more people were getting engaged. he was getting 60, 65 million votes depending on the election you look at, beating the republican by five or ten million. 100 million people on the same day who were eligible to vote didn't vote. that's an issue that we were taking it very seriously. the people need to know that. we think that a big win, but there is another america. 100 million people who just said forget it. it's gone. it can't be repaired and my vote doesn't matter. those people are not engaged at all. i am seeing the trend getting worse. i think you might see 120 million people in america who
won't vote in november. >> hampton, virginia, john, welcome to the conversation. >> thank you very much. my question is about methodology. given the number of gen-xors who are moving away from having home phones to a cell phone specifically, what impact does that have on polls and how is it being addressed? >> great question and everyone has a different methodology. some pollsters can't use cell phones who do the ivr method. that's interactive voice recording. the robo calling basically. that doesn't mean it's not accurate. some are quite accurate. then you have what we do which is live calls. we want a live person so we can screen them properly. the question of proportion. what percentage is cell phones.
some do and some add internet polling. the object is to collect a random sample of people who are on election day and on game day are going to vote. you can't exclude any demographic or age group. it is difficult to collect it and it's a changing model. what worked four years ago does not work today. you always have the ability to wake or to assign quotas. they are trying to do the same thing. there is no political agenda. it's terrific in terms of reporting objective unbiassed polls. we are thankfully one of those.
they take a look at the polling and they have their first pollster out there, but in total, it's a crazy tough business, but we do the best we can given the changing dynamics of young people and mobile phones. >> if the viewers want to dig into the numbers from suffolk university, the gop debate on saturday, go to suffolk.edu. >> come to our website. >> dig into how they ask the questions and the results. >> alice, a republican. after new hampshire, a lot of media and attention coming your way. good morning. >> thank you for taking my call. i am 100% for donald trump. he has a backbone and he knows how to get things done. my god, you don't become a
billionaire and not know nothing. there is clinton, she turned her backs on the boys fighting for our country. they give their life for our country and she didn't send no help and she got on the phone with her husband and said it's a terrorist attack and told the news people that oh, it wasn't a terrorist attack. >> alice, we will leave your comments there. dan, as we wrap up the conversation with you, what are you looking for tomorrow night? what could surprise you and others watching? >> the turn out and where independents play. the majority will play in the republican primary versus the democratic primary and the impact of the storm. i would say for your viewers, there a couple of towns in new hampshire and i can't tell you which they are, but if you want to learn about it, get the boston globe tomorrow or boston.com. i do this analysis of bell
weather analysis that actually shows you towns that reflect how the statewide vote will go. when we are getting the returns tomorrow night, check out those towns on the follow how those towns vote. might give you a little bit of a heads up in terms of how the statewide vote will go on the democratic and republican sides. >> will you be doing that live for "the boston globe"? >> no. i'll be on wbgh live tomorrow and you can see the towns and the track record in "the globe" tomorrow. >> okay. well, david, we appreciate you coming on. pollster for suffolk university. thank you very much for your insight. >> my pleasure. >> we preview the new hampshire primary vote with political reporter of dan tuohy and tlen william o'brien, co-chair of the
ted cruz presidential campaign. later, a conversation with sarah audelo about the youth vote in the 2016 campaign. "washington journal" live every morning on c-span 7:00 eastern and join the conversation by phone or facebook or twitter. ♪ i'm currently on the fence between hilary and bernie. and the most important issue to me in this election is education. i'm a high school teacher and elementary school teacher. and i want the know where their stance is on the common core and what they want to do with that. >> what's most important to me is our national debt because it's going to affect us teens and what i find most important is not who you're voting for. i'm not endorsing anyone. i want you to get out to the polls. use your voice. your vote is your voice. >> my number one issue in this campaign is getting big money out of politics.
citizens united needs to be overturned. until we address that in our politics everything else is just going to keep getting worse and worse, very small number of people are making decisions about what comes before our -- the rest of the population. and for what reason i'm supporting bernie sanders. >> i believe that it's every american citizens' duty to be politically active and vote in elections. as a first-time voter i'm trying to figure out what i like. i'm bouncing from candidate to candidate, campaign to campaign events and i'm here at marco rubio pancake breakfast. i believe there's a candidate for everyone and i'm really excited to find out who i like and who i'll vote for. democratic presidential candidate hillary clinton was joined my her husband and daughter today at a campaign event in new hampshire. they each spoke to supporters at manchester community college.
this is just over an hour. >> ladies and gentlemen, please welcome president of the united states bill clinton and chelsea clinton. ♪ >> thank you. >> hi! hello! hello! oh, thank you for that enthusiastic welcome. we are so excited and grateful to be here in manchester with all of you. i want to thank everyone at manchester community college who's let us all frankly invade today. thank you for your hospitality. i want to thank the governor and senator shaheen today and there's nowhere else i would be
today except new hampshire with my mom. so i am deeply proud to be my mother's daughter. i certainly hope that my 16-month-old daughter charlotte feels the same way about me some day that i feel about my mom. and yet, as much as i stand here as a proud daughter i stand here first and foremost now as a mother myself. my daughter charlotte is just over a year old and i hope that my husband and i will be able to safely and happily welcome her little brother or sister this summer. so -- for me, this election is so fundamentally important because it is the first presidential election that i will vote in as a mom. and now, not surprisingly in my family, it was impossible to not have known who was running for public office and holding public office was really important. some of my earliest memories are going to rallies and events like this and waving american flags
in support of my dad running for governorful i'm very biassed towards my dad, too. feel free to applaud for him, as well. yet, somehow in election feels that much more crucial because whomever we elect as our next president will help steward the country and the world that my children will grow up in. and i could not imagine admittedly a better grandchildren for my children than my mom but i also couldn't imagine a better president. partly for the reasons you heard from the governor and the senator. i want to know that our next president can keep our country safe. i want the know that our next president has a consistent record of standing up against the gun lobby and fighting for smart, sensible gun control. it matters to me that my mother has been fighting for the rights of all children since before i was born. and it matters that my mother
always talks about a woman's right to choose and thank to planned parenthood for being here. and those are just a few reasons why i'm so proud to be here. because i want my children to grow up in a world where they're going to be valued and respected for whomever they are. and whomever they love and whatever choices they feel like they have to make for themselves and their families. so i am just grateful to feel the enthusiasm here and i'm so grateful to be sharing a stage with probably the only person here who arguably knows my mother better than i do. i've known my mommy whole life but my father's clearly known her by definition for longer. i also think my dad knows a little bit about what it takes to be an effective president for our country. so -- since i've shared a bit
about why i'm so strongly supporting my mom, i now want to ask my dad who i think probably has a pretty well-informed opinion himself about why he's so proud to be standing here with me in support of my mom, our next president, hillary clinton. please welcome my father, bill clinton. >> thank you. whoa. thank you. thank you. first of all, i want to thank all of you who have been out working, knocking on doors, walking the streets. and i -- i want to ask you to just keep on doing it until the polls open. i want to thank the governor and senator shaheen. long-time friends for standing up for her. i went to serejevo to celebrate
the massacre and the end of the boss kneeian war where more innocent people were killed in a place because of their faith and ethnicity than any other place in europe since the end of world war ii. and jeanne shaheen the taking the lead that they continue to be a strong ally of freedom and of the united states. i want to thank did governor. one thing our foundation works on is trying to stop the epidemic of prescription drug and heroin abuse and she became one of the first people in the united states to make sure that everybody in new hampshire could have access to the miracle drug bringing kids back and keeping them from dying. now, i want to thank mayor watts from boston who is exhibit "a" of the working person's politici politician.
and has brought a lot of people from massachusetts up here to help us. thank you, former representative carol shay porter. thank you. thank you executive counselor chris pappas. thanks to our forever friend state senator and state senator donna susi. thank you. and i'm almost done. thank you, randy winegarten, president of american fed case of teachers. and the national education association executive committee is here. and thank you dr. susan hewitt, the president of this community college. i saved her for last because hilary basically believes the country ought to operate the way a community college does. it's open to all. nobody graduates saddled with debt. they're prepared for the future. where they can get a decent job and have a decent life.
and there's a lot of diversity in a community college. a lot of difference of opinion but you don't get condemned because of your differences. we embrace it. we debate. we discuss things. we try to figure out how to do it. i was the first president ever to commit at a community college commencement and it was in new hampshire. so -- here's what i want to say. the hottest this election gets, the more i wish i were just the former president and just for a few months not the spouse of the next one. because, you know, i'd be careful what i say. and i'm so happy all the time because of our granddaughter and grandchild-to-be that i'm not mad at everybody but i respect the anger, the apprehension and the anxiety that so many americans have. i understand