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people of iceland. but it sits right astride the greenland iceland uk gap. and it's -- as i say, i can't imagine a more strategic place. i hope we can focus some attention there. the facility is amazing. and i think it would be one that would be -- we would do well to do some concentrating on. >> i agree with your concern and i agree with the importance of the location and our capabilities in that gap that you described. >> mr. chairman. >> look forward to moving your nominations through the united states senate. this hearing is adjourned. >> thank you, chairman. >> thank you chairman.
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the republican national comm committee is holding its spring
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meeting in florida. coming up at 12:30 p.m. eastern. florida governor rick scott addressing the gathering. at 2:00 p.m. eastern the rnc standing committee on rules meets to discuss the rules for this summer's national convention. you can see that meeting live here on cspan 3 at 2:00 p.m. eastern. american history tv on cspan 3 this weekend. saturday evening at 6:00 on the civil war. a historian discusses the book the myth of the lost cause. he examines post war arguments made by former confederates seeking to justify their split from the union. among the disputes, including the reason it started and how it ended. >> suoutherners were dead, not
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justcologi casualies were dead result of the civil war. >> sunday morn aing at 10:00, t campaign of gary hart, we begin with the senator announcing his candidacy in denver and a new hampshire news conference where he faced questions about an alleged affair and then his announcement to withdraw from the race. sunday evening at 6:00. al smithsonian national portrait gallery, on the farm workers movement. >> growers will just beg the union to send anyone but her to negotiate contracts. she was at the forefront of that effort for a reason. her name evolved. which is interesting, because among many of the participants
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of the farm workers movement, when you interview them and hear about them they also talk about her. >> at 8:00 on the presidency. >> he said those son of a bitches, did any of them invite me to play golf at their fancy country clubs or invite me to their clubs. it goes on and on. >> his lip was quivering. that's one of the few times in all those three and a half plus years that i was so close to him that he was a very well-contained disciplined man. very disciplined. and he knew how to keep this in. he erupted then when he was talking to don. and he was just saying not a god damn time. >> former nixon deputy assistant and washington post reporter reflect on the former president's personality and policies from watergate to
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vietnam. for the complete american history tv weekend schedule go to cspan.org. president obama delivers his last speech at the white house correspondents' dinner a week from saturday. and coming up this saturday, cspan takes a look at some of his previous speeches from past dinners. >> no one is prouder to put this birth certificate matter to rest than the donald. and that's because he can finally get back to focusing on the issues that matter. like did we fake the moon landing? what really happened in roswell? and where are big e and tupac? [ applause ]
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all kidding aside, obviously we all know about your credentials and breadth of experience. for example, seriously, just recently in an episode of "celebrity apprentice," at the steakhouse, the men's cooking team did not impress the judges from omaha steaks. and there was a lot of blame to go around. but you, mr. trump, recognize that the real problem was a lack of leadership. and so ultimately you didn't blame little john or meatloaf. you fired gary buse y. these are the kind of decisions that would keep me up at night. >> cspan's look at the president's past speeches from the white house correspondent's dinner is saturday night on cspan at 10:00 eastern.
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back at our table this morning, senator carden democrat of maryland. he sits on the environment and public work committees. the top democrat in the foreign relations committee. i want to begin with the news out of flint. three are charged in the flint water crisis. the attorney general says there are more charges to come. no one is off the table. what's your reaction to this? and about future charges? >> i think there needs to be accountability. there is clearly actions not taken that could have been taken that could have saved children from the exposure to lead. i'm not familiar with the specifics, but it seems to me those that were in charge took action or didn't take action they should have to protect children for 100 hours a day. the bottom line problem here is to make sure we have the resources in this country for safe drinking water, clean water. we don't do that today, this is a national problem, not just flint. my city of baltimore the water
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fountains and schools haven't been operating for a long time because of lead exposure. we need a stronger effort yesterday i introduced legislation with many of my colleagues, comprehensive bill, true leadership that will provide the resources and provide the modernizing our laws on lead so we can make a major change in water infrastructure in america. >> what will those laws change? i mean, how would it be a major change? >> builds on the current systems of providing resources to local governments for clean water and for safe drinking water, it tripled the dollars that are available. it provides grants to low income families so they can deal with the pipes that lead into their homes that contain lead. it provides help to our schools so they can make sure the water the children are drinking are safe. it updates the laws of the environmental protection agency as it relates to the standards for lead. and public notice, so it's a
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comprehensive bill that deals with both water infrastructure and dealing with lead poisoning. >> is it bipartisan? >> it will be. i'm confident the environmental public works committee, senator imof has been a strong champion. we're working with him. in appropriations process. we're working with republicans. we hope we will be able to move significant parts of this bill this year. flint was a wakeup call. it was a tragedy in michigan. but it's a problem nationwide. >> would this legislation then deal with the aging water infrastructure nationwide? and if so, what's the cost and how many years? >> it would deal with the national problem. it would -- the cost of this will be within the budget. we're not going to add to the overall budget agreements that we made. we believe this must be a priority. the problem with water infrastructure for many it's ouout
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of sight out of mind. you don't see the pipes underneath the streets until they broke. when river road became a river they had to close the beltway. we need to make sure we modernize our water infrastructure. >> when do you suspect this could get to the floor and get a vote? >> in the environment of public works committee we expect to take up the next couple weeks the water resources development act. we hope parts of that will be included in the water resources development act. we already are considering the appropriations for next year. we hope part of this will be in the appropriations bill. >> let's go to foreign relations. president obama in saudi arabia had a two hour meeting with the king there. some say this is unprecedented for him to sit down and talk for that long. why do you think he did? what's going on with u.s. saudi relation? >> i think the relationship between saudi arabia and the united states is very important to both countries. the ggc countries, the gulf countries are critically important in our campaign against isil, against extremists forces. i was in saudi arabia a couple
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weeks ago with some of my colleag colleagues. i met with the king. we had a chance to talk. we've had our differences. we've certainly had our differences on syria, we've had our differences on iran. but we share a common mission, and that is to prevent iran from destabilizing the neighboring states whether had it's syria, yemen, libya. when they create a vacuum, isil comes in and causes huge problems for the region. saudi arabia understands that. they understand that the relationship with the united states is important in order to stop that. >> president obama called saudi arabia free riders. do you agree with that assessment? >> i think all the countries can do more. the united states, obviously, has made major commitments of resources. the united states leadership is indispensable. but the countries in the middle east need to do more themselves.
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including saudi arabia. so yes, we would like to see countries step up and provide more soldiers, more resources in our campaign against isil. >> what are they not doing? >> i think it's a question of a coordinated plan. the saudis have been focused more on yemen, which is their neighbor. they have been providing considerable military operations in that region. that region now has a cease-fire. we're now in the process, we hope, of getting a peace process between the government. if we can do that, we would expect the saudis would take some of their military commitment they have used and focus that more on the problems with isil and syria. that's what we'd like to see. >> yesterday in the papers, it said u that the goal here is to convince saudi arabia that there could be a cold peace between them and iran. do you think that's achievable
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and what would that mean? >> i think iran is a dangerous country. i think it's naive to think they will adhere to some type of a cold peace. they are aggressive today and interfering in other countries. iran is clearly involved in syria. they are clearly involved in libya. so i think it's naive to think they are all of a sudden going to change their ways. they have supported extremists. they have supported terrorists. and they sort of don't care whether a government is stable or not. so i think you u can't be naive and think iran is just going to be quiet. >> this is from this morning. the next two days will be an effort to set the relationship with the saudis on my solid ground and common interests. the obama administration has sold the saudis more than $95
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billion in military hardware. and saudi intelligence has been essential to the counterterrorism fight against al qaeda and the islamic state. take a look at this headline on the same issue. president obama looks to reassure allies in the middle east. the top buyers of u.s. arms in 2015. saudi arabia followed by australia, uae, iraq, taiwan, egypt, qatar, mexico, indonesia. these are the top suppliers of crude oil. canada and then saudi arabia. talk about that relationship. >> we have a very broad relationship with the gulf countries. they like our weapons. remember, there are other sources that they can get weapons from. they can get weapons from china. they can get weapons from russia. they can get weapons from europe. there are other sources available to them in order to get arms. they would rather deal with the united states for two reasons.
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one, we have the best weapons. secondly, we have the best training. and they know that we're reliable. we also share the same mission as far as stability in the middle east. recognize there are differences between our countries. we have major problems with the saudis as they relate to human rights and women's issues and deals with foreign labor. so we have to make sure we don't lose sight of the fact we have a strategic partnership with these countries. we have to make sure whatever we do furthers our interest. >> krystal, you're up first. >> caller: i live in hastings, nebraska. several years ago or last year actually the epa tamed the water. back in 1994 a woman passed away
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at the age of 50 from the water as well as others do here. and her husband opened up a clean water place for people to get free clean water and this was dedicated to his wife. how can it be that the epa would not allow them to test it? i don't understand how they cannot have epa test the water? >> i'm not familiar and obligation to make sure that our water supplies are safe. not only our safe drinking water, there's clean water. they are responsible for the implementation of the clean water act and it was passed in the 1970s. that includes testing. part of the legislation i filed yesterday.
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a broader testing to make sure children are safe in regards to lead in water. if there's any problems at all, there's a public notification. it also provides u for a greater immediate response including the use of fema if we have a major problem. i agree with you that epa needs to know. they need to know the status in order to ensure we have clean and safe water, they need to know and be able to test. they are not getting that access that's wrong and they need to have that authority. >> morgantown, democrat. >> caller: good morning. my question is simple. the effects of the children i've been drinking this water. who is going to pay for it and is this not a call? i know that's not going to happen because any time that comes up, they say where are we
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going to get the money. when they needed $700 billion to bail out the banks, there was no problem. thank you. >> you raise a valid point. no lead is acceptable level in children today. it robs them of their full potential. it's tragic. the cost of this is astronomical. let me just give you one example that's personal to those of us in maryland. that's the case of freddie grey. people know about tragic circumstances that have happened one year ago this month in which we had unrest in baltimore. freddie gray was robbed of his full potential because of the engagement with law enforcement, but also because as a youngster he had lead poisopoisoning. it denied him full opportunity and caused him problems throughout his life. we risk at our own peril the cost that factors if it we do not deal with the lead issue.
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it's not only the humanitarian right thing to do to make sure that everyone is safe. it's also a tremendous cost to society. the obligation to the federal government to make sure our children are safe. >> three have been charged in the flint water crisis. does anyone seriously believe that governor rick snyder will be indict ed by a republican attorney general? >> i know there's an independent investigation being done. we also know that the u.s. attorney is looking into the criminal matters. i am not up to date on the specifics of a criminal investigation. but i know there are investigations ongoing. >> maryland, john, republican. >> caller: good morning. senator, were you the guy that sponsored this treaty or iranian arrangement where we gave them back money that was in escrow and now you're talking about
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iran being involved in all kinds of terrorism, sponsors of terrorism. why did you make that available of the president to force this agreement? >> we're going to get the senator's response. hang up and listen on your tv. >> i'm not sure which legislation you're referring to. the iran agreement was subject to approval -- by review by congress. there was a resolution of disapproval. i voted against the resolution. against approving the iran agreement. it is now the law. i want u to make sure that iran never becomes a nuclear weapons state. what i was able to get done as the ranking democrat on the senate foreign relations committee working with senator corker, the chairman, is to make congress engaged in this. we had a review process. we had more transparency. we had more committee hearings. we have more public knowledge.
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as a result of what senator corker and i were able to do, there was a closer review during the negotiation process. i think we got a stronger agreement, better ways of enforcing an agreement and we'll continue to do that in congress. the president acted under his authority. there was not enough votes in congress to override what he had done. i didn't think it was the best agreement moving forward. it's done. now it's time to make sure it's enforced. now it's time for congress to work with the administration and the international community to make sure not only iran never becomes a nuclear weapons state, but to take action for its other nefarious actions such as ballistic missile testing, violation of human rights. we have to be very strong in our campaign to make sure that iran is held accountable for these actions. >> has this nuclear deal changed
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our relationship with saudi arabia? the headline in the washington tooims is saudis deliver snub on the tarmac. saudi state television showed the king personally greeting senior officials from other gulf nations arriving at an air base. the arrival was not shone live on saudi state television. >> i think you're reading too much into those issues. saudi arabia understands that it's most important appliance is with the united states. they understand how important their relationship is. there were disagreements on what we did in syria. there was dis agreements on the iranian negotiations.
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it will be long lasting beyond one administration and they recognize the importance of this visit of the president to saudi arabia. >> should the families of the 9/11 attacks be able to hold the saudi government accountable and sue them for their role in september 11th and did they have a role in the september 11th attacks? >> the victims should have a path towards compensation. i think that's the key point. those who were victimized that there should be accountability and should be able to get relief. the issues as to how that can be done is a matter that we have a bill pend iing in the united states senate. the administration has voiced strong objections to it. the saudis have voiced strong objection to it. it has to do with the issues of sovereign immunity and accountabili accountability. we're trying to understand the administration's concerns to see
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whether there is a path forward to accomplish our objective, what we're trying to do and that is to give a way the victims can be compensated. >> what about the 28 pages of the report in the investigation into what happened, what happened on september 11th that people have called for the release of them to the public. >> the 28 pages is part of a report issued after 9/11. it's being reviewed by the administration to see whether it will be released to the public. parts of it will be redacted. as a senior democrat on the foreign relations committee have reviewed those in a classified setting so i can't comment on it under my oath of office. but i support as much transparency as we can make. the more we can make public, the better off we are. >> what would the public learn
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from those 28 pages? i u know you can't talk specifics, can you talk in general? >> i don't think i can go down that path to comment as to what would be in the reports. >> does the decision by the supreme court yesterday let'ses terrorism survivors get assets. the supreme court cleared the way for victims of terrorism u to collect $2 billion in seized assets but not without a warning from the chief justice that the court was undermining its authority. the justices ruled they had not violated the separation of powers making it easier for 1300 people to collect money on behalf of those killed in the bombing of a u.s. marine core bar risks and other attacks blamed on iran. >> i have not read the specifics, but i have read the news accounts of the supreme court decision. i think it's good news. i think it's saying that the congress is the legislative branch of government.
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within certain parameters, they are permitted to act on issues of compensation. so in this regard, congress passed a law to provide relief in regards to a certain issue involving iran. and the supreme court has upheld congressional power to provide that type of avenue for relief. >> were they not related? >> they could be related. it very much could be. we have to read the specifics of the case. the concern being raised by the administration and by the saudis may not necessarily be the constitutional power of the congress. i'm not sure about that. there is comedy between countries. one of the fears that had been expressed that if the congress does this that could compromise u.s. interest in saudi arabia. those are responsible and need
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to be held accountable. congress has a right to move in that direction and work with the administration to figure out a way to get this done. >> st. louis, missouri, a democrat, good morning. >> caller: good morning, how are you? i was just wondering i'm watching the program this morning and you listed the number of countries that were receiving american arms and how much they will receive. you left out one country that received the majority of military hardware and that country is israel. i was just curious why wasn't israel mentioned? >> this is the list put together by "the wall street journal." you can see the list there for yourself. can you explain, senator? >> there's different -- we're talking here about arm sales. arm sales are the saudis are the
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number one. they purchased united states weapons and it goes through a notification process and there's involvement to make sure it's acceptable. it's not a nato country. it goes through different scrutinies. so that's the arm sales. there is also foreign military assistance budgets that involve israel and other countries in which the united states is providing help. >> senator, do you feel there's going around with the sunnis and shiites working together like they were at once? >> it's very interesting. when i was in saudi arabia, i asked the king and i u asked the crown prince the question was asked. now there was a leader elected
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in syria from one of the religious parties. could that person represent all the religious parties. and the answer was we don't care. we have shiites in our country that are part of our society in government. it's not a matter of whether it's a sunni or shia. it's someone who will represent all the people of that country. so we're looking at in syria is a leader that will represent all of the ethnic communities of syria and has the confidence of the people that will defend their u communities. so we have to stop the battling. that's the key to stability in the region. that's the type of leadership we need in syria. ? an effort to get the stir up the minority in countries to cause
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military problems or stability problems leading to isil's ability to retract and recruit fighters. >> does that leader exist in syria? >> i u don't know. i really don't know. assad has to leave. there can be no peace in syria. so assad has no acredibility in that region. we need a new person. it can be a shiite or sunni. the question is whether it's a person to represent. >> what kind of credibility does president obama have in the region? >> it's the united states. they look at the united states as the most important single player leadership in that region. and under president obama, the united states has strengthened its ties to that region from the
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point of our involvement. we have been directly u involved in syria and iraq. we have been engaged in libya. they look at the united states as a key partner in their desire to create stable regimes representing all of their citizens not creating voids for extremists. they want to get rid of the extremist extremists. they look at the united states and president obama as a key partner in accomplishing those objectiv objectives. >> does that mean having a presence at all times in these regions so that extremist us, as we have seen when americans withdraw and extremists come in? >> let me define that. the united states must be engaged in the middle east. there's no question about it. we do not want to see american boots on the ground. that would be counterproductive. i remember the conversation. we don't want this to be a
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western crusade. the people of the region must defend themselves. the challenge as we see today in iraq and syria is whether the sunni tribes can be protected by a government that has had its challenges in getting government forces to protect. they are not dpoing to be accepted. it's going to have to be a national force. so i think the challenges that develop that type of security in the region, the united states is critically important. yes, it's our military. it's our air force, our technical training that can help provide that climate. it will be for an extended period of time, but ultimately it's going to be up to the syrians, the iraqis, saudis to defend themselves. >> dave, a democrat, good morning. >> caller: are you a climate
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change denier? >> no, i will be giving a speech on the floor of the senate today. tomorrow is earth day u. and president obama in new york will see many countries sign the top 21 agreement for 196 countries, 98% of the global missions of the world will sign a commitment towards working together to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. i was in france during the negotiations. i'm a strong supporter of u.s. leadership globally and in this country to dramatically reduce our emissions. >> did you hear senator inhofe on the floor? >> i have heard the senator. >> caller: those 192 countries going to be disapointed? how do you work with somebody like that? >> i have known jim inhofe ever
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since i came to congress. we came in the same year in 1987. he's a good person. he's just wrong on climate. totally wrong. and the way i answer that is is let's let the scientists determine what we need to do to keep our globe healthy. what can we do in order to protect our environment and future generations? the scientists tell us what we need to do. overwhelming opinion of scientists is that the activities of us here on this earth is affecting climate and we have an ability to change for the better. >> wednesday passed the first broad energy bill since the george w. bush administration. a bipartisan measure to better align the oil and gas systems
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with the changing ways that power is produced in the united states. it was approved 58-12. >> i mixed them up. >> we have been working for five years to get this done. it contains many provisions we have been working on. the main goal is to increase our energy supply, particularly r u renewable and noncarbon source energy supplies. we'll deal with a friendlier environment. it deals with energy conservation so we use less energy. it's a major bill. we also included in that bill u some of our major environmental programs are being reauthorized. i was proud that was included. there are bills i had filed to
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get into this legislation. so it's a major bill. >> the new york city times says it needs some fixes. >> i was disappointed we didn't get the tax sections into this bill that would have provided for the renewables that have the same advantages that the fossil fuel industries have. very dus apointed that didn't get into it. >> let's go to central virginia, independent caller, the house is going to be gaveling in at 9:00. we'll go there. but go ahead with with your question or comment for the senator. >> caller: good morning, my question was we are a country that fights for human rights, fights against aggressors and oppressors. so the question is why aren't we doing anything against the aggression that saudi arabia is
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doing. in bahrain they have the army going into another country. they are demonstrating against the government. they don't have any arms or anything. they are being killed every day. nothing has been said about that. saudi arabia is funding boko haram, al shabaab and all the other groups all over the world. 19 of the people who flew planes into the world trade center were saudis. the only country that was against the 9/11 bill was the saudis. we don't say anything about that. all we say is you're on this, on that. so i wanted to know what your comments are about that, sir. >> we do say that. i already said on this show our objections in the way that iran handles human rights, handle women, handle foreign labor,
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you're correct in the -- we have been aggressive in changing that behavior. and in some meetings that i held in the region a couple weeks ago. i'm sure the president is following up in his visit. we have gotten their cooperation to change their behavior. the they have shared information about their banking system so we can track to make sure it doesn't get to extremist hands and terrorist groups. we're getting better cooperation, but is it where we want it to be, you're right. it's not. too much of the resources from people in their country is going to terrorist organizations. it's complicated. what do i mean by that? the royal family in saudi arabia
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is huge. huge. but there's a lot of arms to the royal family. and yes, some we think are doing things against our interests and we will very much be vocal about that. >> that word has different connotations now. president obama speaking to the gulf nations right now at this summit. not just with saudi arabia le leade leaders, but others as well. earlier we told you that the campaign manager for senator bernie sanders said he's a democrat for life. even post election if he doesn't win in the presidential primary. but this from a reporter for the washington free beacon that he's already filed for reelection in the senate as an independent. there's the paperwork at the top of that tweet for the 2016 committee information. friends of bernie sanders that he's filing as an independent to
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run two years from now for his seat in vermont. we asked our viewers earlier if the nominating process if it's dividing the party. but for democrats, do you think that bernie sanders in his campaign given the gap right now needs to tone it down? >> first of all, i think the campaign has been healthy for the the democrats and it's going to help hillary clinton to be our nominee and the next president of the united states. >> you have endorsed her. >> i have endorsed her. senator sanders is a good friend. he's done a -- the issues he's raised have been very important. he's in the heat of a campaign. there are going to be days i u wish things were handled differently. there's no question about that. i think overall the campaign has been healthy for the democratic party and healthy for our country. >> should he stay in this race all the way to july? >> that's his decision. i can't tell bernie sanders what he should do. he has to make that judgment based upon the way that he's
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running his campaign, his supporters, how he thinks it's best to manage the remaining days before the nomination. >> your colleague retiring. there's quite a primary u race underway for her seat. you are not endorsing in that primary. why not? >> this is the last day of early voting. you can vote until 8:00 tonight. early voting and if you haven't voted by today, tuesday, the polls open. please make sure you vote on tuesday. i believe we have two good people running. it's up to our democrats to make that judgment as to who would be the best. i'm proud both people are running. >> donna edwards, african-american woman, she's making the case that it should be a woman and it should be an african-american that represents maryland, not another white man.
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>> each candidate brings certain strengths and certain weaknesses to the campaign. i want the marylanders to nominate the person who they believe would be the best to represent their interests in the united states senate. we have senator mikulski, what an incredible leader she's been. >> senator, thank you very much for your time this morning. saturday, april 23rd is the 400th anniversary of william shakespeare's death. on that day, the library here in washington, d.c., which has the largest collection of shai shakespeare documents and memorabilia in the world will be hosting an event commemorating his life and impact on our literature, our language, our politics and our history. book tv will be covering that event live. afterwards, we'll have a live nationwide call in with
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shakespeare call so you can join in the conversation as well. so he and his wife spent many years and many dollars collecting shakespeare artifac s artifacts, memorabilia. it's the largest collection of shakespeare-related documents. so join us on saturday, april 23rd. we'll be live beginning at noon from the fol engineer library for 400 years of shakespeare on book tv. >> madame secretary, we proudly give 72 of our delegate votes to the next president of the united states.
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the republican national committee is holding its spring meeting in hollywood, florida. coming up live here on c span 3 shortly at 12:30 p.m. eastern time we'll hear from florida governor rick scott as he addresses the gathering. and then at 2:00 p.m. eastern the rnc's standing committee on rules meets to discuss the rules for this summer's republican national convention. you can see that meeting live on our companion network c-span at 2:00 p.m. eastern time. now we learn more about the rnc meeting from today's washington journal. >> alex, reporter for politico,
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to talk about this gathering. what has happened so far? what's on the agenda for today? >> well, look, yesterday people started having the meetings here at the rnc. ted cruz came in. his aids spent the entire day here pretty much. a few big items. the rules committee is going to hear about how they can change things for the convention. it can make suggestions and separate rules committee that's going to be meeting at the convention. so one of the things they are going to be talking about today is whether to move from the parliament through the convention from the parliamentarian rules at the house of representatives to a different set of rules called rules of order. the other thing that's going to happen is you're going to see a
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bunch of top aids from donald trump inclucoming in embracing members of the rnc for about 90 minutes. you're not expected to see donald trump come in, but this is still a big deal. >> we're going to be covering tr rules meeting at 2:00 p.m. eastern time today. that's on c-span 3. now tell our viewers, who are going to be tuning in to this, this is going to reair at 8:00 p.m. on c-span. what's the difference between the roberts rules and the parliamentarian rules? >> sure, so let's boil this down a little bit.
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u.s. house rules is what's been used for decades really. what it basically does is gives a lot of power for residing officers. the first to overrun the convention. that's a role that we have played by house speaker paul ryan. it gives to gavel things in to control the proceedings of the floor to say do the ayes have it or nays have it. so what the rule does is flips that. it gives more power to individual delegate who is are on the floor.
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if they have any issue they want to bring up. if they disagree how a vote is being called they can raise a point of order and they have to be recognized. they have to be called by the residing officer. so the the people want to change this rule and put this proposal into place. they say at a time when there's going to be incredible in the eyes are going to be on the republican national convention this summer. this rule. >> the rnc is going to hear from the florida governor rick scott and he will be addressing the republican national committee then. we'll have coverage of it on c-span 3 at 12:30 p.m. eastern time. so what do these campaigns want out of these meetings? you said senator ted cruz, john kasich, they showed up in
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person. donald trump is sending top aids. what do each of them want out of these meetings? >> they want to start making headway with these rnc members. all 116 members of the republican national committee are all going to be dug at the convention. so even though we don't know how things are going to turn out given we don't know the final delegate tallietallies, these c have real power. it's interesting to see how all this is going to play out. >> and because these folks will have sway on if there's a contested convention, some of them by state rules will have to vote for the candidate who won their state. but some of the freed up to vote for who they want to vote for.
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>> they are going to be bound to support on the first ballot whoever it is that won their u state. on the second ballot if they hit the magic number of delegates oven the first ballot, that's free to vote for whoever they want. >> and what are these insiders staying about who they might pick u. >> they are keeping the cards close to the vest. it's clear if it you look around the country that ted cruz has an advantage when it comes to the insider delegate game. he's done a much better job organizing, winning over delegates, getting slates of delegates that support him u out to vote.
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but donald trump is trying to make him work. he's taking the process more seriously. >> okay, alex, covering that rnc meeting, thank you for spelling it all out for us, appreciate it. >> thank you. we're live in hollywood, florida, for the spring meeting. an address from rick scott. he should be addressing the gathering here in a few minutes. then at 2:00 eastern time our coverage will continue over on our con pannon network c-span.
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the stand iing committee will b meeting to talk about the rules for the republican national convention. that coming up at 2:00 eastern time. that will be on c-span. here on c-span 3, it's florida governor rick scott addressing the spring meeting of the republican national committee in just a few moments. fox news reporting on this meeting. the republican national committee holding its final scheduled meeting this week before the party's national convention in july. officials were under pressure to steer clear of convention rules changed, the rnc chair says he wa wants no significant rules changes from the group and its 168 members. all of whom are delegates at the annual spring meeting. . that from fox news. we're live in hollywood, florida. governor rick scott of florida with remarks to this luncheon gathering. our live coverage on c-span 3.
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again, we're live on c-span 3 in hollywood, florida, where the republican national committee is holding its spring meeting. in a few moments, we'll hear from rick scott addressing the gathering at their luncheon today. later on, our coverage will continue at 2:00 eastern time today as the rnc's standing committee on rules meets to talk about the rules for this summer's republican national convention in cleveland. again, that's on c-span at 2:00 this afternoon eastern time as our road to the white house coverage continues. speaking of that convention and this meeting, andrew to brb acr as writing, the international rules recently the subject of attention and intrigue will
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continue their time in the limelight. members of the rnc gathering in hollywood, florida, for the spring meeting to debate whether to change the rules for the convention. the rules could have a huge impact on how a contested convention could play out and which candidate would e emerge as the nominee in cleveland. reince priebus has lobbied against any changes, which would require approval of the majority of the delegates this july. but a proposal to overhaul the procedure for the convention nonetheless has stoked controversy over the past week. again, that from a story u in cleveland.com. we're live in florida for the republican national committee spring meeting. a speech coming up here from florida governor rick scott in a few moments.
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ladies and gentlemen, please take your seats. ladies and gentlemen, please take your seats. lunch will begin shortly. please take your seats.
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good afternoon, everyone. we have to do this moment, right? good afternoon to all our members and our guests and our fellow rnc members. welcome to our annual spring quarterly meeting and our luncheon today. we're proud and honored to have as our guest speaker my own
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governor rick scott. he's a friend, a great lead er for our party, a great governor for our state and very honored to have you here joining us today. it is now absolutely -- please. it is now my honor to call rosy trip to the stage. she's a committee woman from new mexico to share with us the invocation. >> please bow your heads. thank you, god, for this glorious day. a day filled with opportunities to serve you and to express our love for you, others and ourselves. we come before you with grateful hearts as we ask for your blessing for strength and wisdom this week. we look to you, o lord, for guidance in our thoughts, our
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decisions, our actions and most of all our words. our hearts are filled with gratitude for those who have answered the call to serve and protect our country. we honor them for their service. bless this food that we are about to partake. may we use it to the nourishment of our bodies. we ask you to bless those who have prepared it and those who serve it. we ask this in your holy name, amen. >> now if henry barber, the national committee man from the great state of mississippi would please join us and lead us in the pledge of allegiance. >> i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america. and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
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>> thank you, both. now this will, again, please enjoy your lunch. enjoy the friendship at your table as we can prepare to get ready for the rest of the program right after lunch. thank you, god bless.
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again, we're live on c-span 3 in holding it spring meeting. we expect to hear from florida governor rick scott shortly. he's addressing the luncheon today. and later on today at about 2:00 p.m. eastern time, the rnc standing committee on rules will be meeting to talk about rules for this summer's republican national convention. that will be live on our companion network, c-span. again, at about 2:00 p.m. eastern time today. while we wait to hear from florida governor rick scott, we'll show you a portion of today's "washington journal." >> here to talk about education and work force training is freshman republican congressman ry ryan costello, represents pennsylvania and the district in pennsylvania. also the co-chair of the 21st century skills caucus. what is this caucus and what's the goal?
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>> good morning. the goal is to align our educational system and institutions with career and workforce training, so that when students in high school move on to either college or even potentially trade school, that they're garnering the skills that are needed in order to compete for the jobs available in the new economy. >> what are these 21st century skills that they need? >> well, a great question. and just yesterday, the wall street journal profiled the u.s. occupation at the greatest risk of a labor shortage. everything from occupational therapists to those particularly fields that require math and science, engineers, and the other big one, i think, in term fz of our health care system is nursing. some of those professions don't require a college degree. so what are we doing during a student high school years and even before then to create career awareness and make sure that there's curriculum
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available so they can get the skills needed to enter the workforce and be valuable members of society, and our employers out there are continuing to call for those skills and that type of curriculum so they're trained and ready to work. >> there's also been stories that the fastest growing jobs in the american economy are ones that are going to be paying low wages. service type jobs, retail, home assistance, those sort of things. don't require a college education. they don't pay very well. so how do you balance that with the economy is demanding and the type of jobs people would like to get? >> i do think obviously as the labor -- as things compress, and more employees are needed, that will naturally lift wages. the other thing is with a lot of these jobs, they are starter jobs or jobs once you get into a particular field, you can move up to become a supervisor and ultimately a manager. i think that that, i mean, i
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don't think anyone expects at the age of 21 or 22 when they enter the work force that they would make when they're 30, 40, 50. >> what are schools doing or not doing? >> in pennsylvania in particular, we have what are known as intermediate units or iu units or vocational high schools. and so if you are not on a college-bound trajectory, what you may choose to do with your public education is go into the iu space, or the intermediate units. there, you can learn everything on how to be a machinist, esthetician, hvac repair, auto mechanic, trucking. there's a lot out there in terms of what you do with your hands. advanced manufacturing is increasingly requires some computer science skills. but nevertheless, that's where employers are indicating that there is a gap. >> that's happening in pennsylvania.
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is it happening elsewhere? go ahead. >> all across the country. >> is the federal government playing a role or is this a state initiative? >> the federal government plays a role with the work force development dollars that flow down to states and ultimately down to regional authorities or economic development counsels who then provide the work force development programming. what i and many others feel is extremely important is to further involve local industry, you know, the businesses and industries in my town may be different than yours or the callers who may call in. and so you want to make sure that industry in that region is playing a very active role in saying these are the skills that we need. let's make sure that our curriculum and i should also say even adult workers on the retraining side, let's make sure curriculum and training reflects what our need is present day because the point obviously of getting an education and work force development training is to make sure there's a job
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available for you. >> ryan costello here to take your questions and comments about the issue of the right training, the right education for today's work force. democrats, 2027488000. start dialing in now. so congressman, the every student succeeds act just passed to replace no child left behind. you played a role in that. what does that do to address the having the skillset for the 21st century? >> it does a lot of good things. first, what we have done is reduced the federal role in our public educational system. everything from teacher evaluations done much more at the state level without federal mandates. curriculum, state driven, not federal driven. testing, we have reduced the mandates associated with federal testing and devolved that to the state. i think most parents, students, teachers, administrators feel
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there is more than enough student testing and we don't need the federal government adding an additional layer of testing on top of that. i had an amendment which did just that to reduce the mandatory testing at the federal level. and then the other reason why that's important is when a student takes a test, the objective of the test should be a measurement of what that student's achievement is and what the weaknesses are. some of that curriculum can be designed by the teacher, by the local school board, to help improve what those weaknesses are so that the student is continuing to progress and improve academically through high school. that, i think, then shifts into what are the strengths of that student, are they college-bound? should they -- and i would also add, back to the career awareness issue, making sure that students know what opportunities are available for them as they graduate and what kind of training and academic studies should they pursue while they're in the educational
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system so they are prepared. >> so then what's the role for community colleges, vocational training? how do they get the right students that they need to get for, and how do they impact this whole process of getting kids these skill sets? >> excellent question. i was just at the montgomery county community college in my district on monday. they just opened up an innovation hub for everything from aqua culture to allot of roly emerging industries and business models that are cutting edge and that are changing year by year. and in many respects, the community colleges are really innovation hubs. both for two-year degrees, to then push folks right into careers, as well as a situation where whether you're an adult going back to school or maybe you don't know if you want to pursue a four-year degree or you may not have the grades to go right to a four-year degree. the community colleges provide that value. and it gives you another two
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years to nurture your skills and to determine where you want to head next. >> how many kids go to four-year colleges? >> initially? i get concerned about that. i think everybody who wants to pursue a college education should. and we should encourage that. at the same point in time, we shouldn't create a stigma that if you don't want to go to college, that there is not a worthwhile career out there and you can't be a productive member of society and get a job that pays a morgtgage and raises a family. you can go on vacation and you can have a savings account. so i worry about that, and i don't mean in any way to suggest we shouldn't encourage college. i just mean to suggest that we need to make sure that we are amenable to students wanting to go in different directions in life and that we want to provide the support and the tools so they can make that choice. >> tyrone has been waiting in new york, a democrat. you're up first. >> caller: yes -- >> a quick programming note that our coverage of the republican
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national committee and the speech by florida governor rick scott will be seen on our companion network c-span here on c-span3, we continue with "washington journal." >> caller: -- putting it in the aspect of the government deals with most of the educational needs of the citizens of this country. and because the government is the one that basically deals with most of us, we should have a more patriotic stance on voting. and changing the whole dynamic of this country. and that -- >> sorry. i thought we were finished. my apologies. did you want to respond? >> tyrone was mentioning he would like to see mandatory voting. i don't know how that -- one would enforce that even if we were to do that. >> yeah. >> i appreciate his call. >> curt, waco, texas, republican. again, apologies. go ahead, curt. >> caller: representative costello, thank you for the
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opportunity to call in. i do appreciate your service to our nation. >> thank you. >> caller: i have always been a proponent that not everybody fits college. some people really benefit technical school. because of their skills. but i just want to make sure that you're aware that work force development boards have a list of targeted occupations. >> yes. >> caller: that are specific to work force development board area. what can the government do or what would the government do to push down, if you will, those targeted occupations to the high school level? so that we can capture those young minds thinking about tech school, not simply focusing only on baylor university, u.t., et cetera, to help those guys out? once again, i appreciate your service to the nation. and thank you for the opportunity to speak. good day. >> that's an excellent question.
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and precisely that is what we're doing with the caucus that i cochair, and i would just further add that every region in this country is a little different. by enabling the private, number one, by making the dollars flexible so as you mentioned pushed down. there are certain industries i think, nursing shortage, occupational therapy, those careers that are rooted in s.t.e.m. that's a nationwide need. but there are also certain regions that have certain industries that are much more prevalent in their region. and so by making sure that private industry plays a role in the workforce development board, i used to be a county commissioner. we used to appoint folks to our work force investment board and making sure that private industry is as involved as possible and participates in the shaping of the curriculum. i think that's the real sweet sauce, and that's how you make
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sure that the federal dollars and state dollars that flow down to the local level are working for the individuals getting the training and simultaneously aligning with the needs of the industries in that marketplace. thank you for your question. >> wayne in harrisburg, pennsylvania, democrat. >> caller: how are you doing? >> good. >> caller: for jobs, right, they take you to all these interviews, right, in the '50s and '60s and '70s, whatever job you went for, they taught you how to do it. now, today, you know, you have to go to school. and another thing, why is it that some jobs even run a credit check on you, knowing that most of the minorities have bad credit? and records? why is that? >> well, sure, thank you for your question. i want to give a shout out, we're both commonwealth of
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pennsylvanians here. two things, one, i don't know how to respond with why an employer runs a credit check. but i can say that you are right about what employers expect on day one when you start a job. and i wasn't around in the '50s and '60s. c i was born in 1976. in today's marketplace, a company, the notion that they're going to train you on the job is much reduced. and so the need to get that training while you're in high school, while you're in voc tech school, while you're in community college is needed. we spend a lot of money educating children and young adults in our country. there is a substantial amount of loan and grants provided to college students and the workforce development dollars i mentioned. we just need to make sure they're working so that the training does take place so that
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employers want to hire you. obviously, there's going to be some on-the-job training, but your question is precisely why i think this issue is so critical for this country. >> john in new jersey, independent caller, welcome to the conversation. >> caller: yes, i say we should tear up every trade deal that was done, and also, you know, the credit check is because they go by credit to make sure you're responsible. that's how they judge it. and that's unfair. that should be taken out. we have to get these companies back. there won't be any jobs if they keep going overseas. there's no more steel being made. they're shutting down. you have these visas, all of this, a big problem. you want to put americans to work, get rid of the foreign workers coming in and tell the companies, look, you have to be patriotic to your country. >> congressman, do you agree? >> i mean, i don't know if we're going to vote on tpp this year or not, but obviously, there's a lot of frustration, and it's
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manifesting itself in the presidential election on both sides. the belief that trade deals lead to displaced workers and a loss of jobs. the other side of that is a trade deal is supposed to open up markets and create more export opportunities, which could lead to more manufacturing, allow our agricultural products and what we do do on the automotive manufacturing side to be exported. what has not yet happened is the u.s. trade representative has not released its findings on the economic impact on tpp, but the gentleman who just called in is voicing a frustration that is shared by a lot of people in this country. >> that's the transpacific partnership trade deal with 12 other nations. vietnam, malaysia, et cetera. >> and canada. >> and canada, okay. >> somehow it made its way in there. >> we'll go to steve in pennsylvania. reading, pennsylvania. a republican. >> caller: good morning, c-span, and good morning, ryan.
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and my comment is, are they bringing in people from the private sector, instructors for like five weeks in a semester to relate them to the course that the professor is teaching so that they can line themselves up into the private sector of the students? >> yes. >> caller: so they get the first-hand information and related courses to the jobs at hand so the students know which direction will provide them the best experience when they finish the course? >> sure, excellent question. and reading, pennsylvania, you're probably in my congressional district. although i don't know that for certain because reading is a little carved up.
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but burks technical institute, i visited two facilities, both of them do precisely what you said. east penn manufacturing, which recycles used car batteries, carpenter technology, penske trucking, there are a lot of large employers, particularly in burks county where you're from, and i represent part of the county, that do just that. i also think, you know, part of being a member of congress is learning about what the challenges are and what policies we can do to make things better. part of it is applying things that work at the local level and sharing those ideas with other members of congress, particularly those in the caucus i cochair to take best practices and apply them nationwide. excellent question, great points your caller made. >> mike in new philadelphia, ohio, independent caller. >> i didn't know there was a philadelphia in ohio. >> new philadelphia. >> there's a philadelphia in pennsylvania, as everybody knows. >> go ahead, mike. >> caller: this is new philadelphia, ohio. i graduated high school in 1966.
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and every high school at that time had industrial arts courses, vocational classes for men -- boys and girls, and shortly after i graduated, i know in cincinnati, these vocational high schools started up. they had four of them around cincinnati called scarlet oaks. every county now in the state of ohio has at least one of those type of schools. my boy, my youngest son, went to buckeye career center where he learned a trade. the problem that you've got right now is we build out the automotive industry, and as a thank you, gm is building a $5 billion plant in mexico. ford is building two, $1.3 billion plants in mexico. mer merck, the american express, sisco, and several other
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companies a couple years ago fired an average of 23,000 people that were qualified, and they were in this program. and they wanted congress to pass hb1 visas so they could replace them with people who would work for practically nothing. my brother, who was disabled at work, went back to college, got his mechanical engineering degree at age 61. he can't find a job anywhere. and when the company that he worked for found out that he had a degree, he therefore is now eligible to work, so they terminated him. so he's stuck with no disability payments, and he's stuck with over $100,000 debt in education. you guys got to stop letting these companies fire american workers that are qualified with the skills and bring them in,
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and the programs you're suggesting have been around for 40 years. boy, way to reinvent the wheel. have a nice day. >> i hope that you have a nice day, too. and rather than reinventing the wheel, what we're trying to do is make sure that the programs work. again, i think you're voicing a lot of the same frustration that the caller previously mentioned. that there's something else that i think we should talk about. that is our tax code. it's anti-competitive. i cannot speak to the business reason why any of the particular companies you mentioned move jobs elsewhere, but i can say this. an american company that has overseas operations that generates a profit overseas gets taxed overseas, and if they want to bring the money home, they get taxed again. so there are trillions of dollars sitting offshore. american-held profits that if we would reform our tax code to simplify it and lower rates, we could get a lot of that money back. we would be building new plants here, hiring more workers here, rather than firing workers and
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shifting jobs overseas. i understand what you're saying. i think that we're here to talk about workforce development training, in part, you're mentioning why jobs are leaving. i think some of that is our tax code and our regulatory environment, which we could also speak about. >> twitter wants to know, there are schools, educators failing students, taxpayers. they're spending two times as much with less than average results. >> i don't want to say teachers are failing or students are failing. i think that as if every government program and how our country works, from time to time, we just need to make sure we're reforming, that we're simplifying, that we're using best practices. that's what i'm looking to do here. i think frankly by the nature of some of the calls, there's a frustration because there's the feeling we can be doing better and should be doing better, and part of what i try to do day in and day out, just like members here who are republicans and
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democrats, is do the right thing. sometimes we disagree, but we're trying to work together and make things better. >> i'm suspecting you're not going to be critical of teachers given you're the son of two public school teachers. >> yeah, that's true. >> and is mom listening? >> they probably are listening. mom and dad are both retired. brother is a teacher. >> that might be the reason why. right? >> yeah. yeah. there's a lot -- look, there's a lot of -- everyone who is listening here today can point to that one teacher who made a difference, who was either a mentor or a role model or taught them something, taught that student something about themselves that they didn't previously know. we have challenges in our public education system, but, you know, we are where we are as a country as a result of it, and we're the greatest country that civilization has ever known. while we have problems and we have challenges and we're frustrated, i think it's also important to look at why we are a great country. >> hillary is next in manassas,
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virginia. democrat. you're on the air, hillary. >> caller: hi. i just wanted to highlight the importance of unions and unionization. you know, certainly with the high demand in, you know, lower-paying jobs in the future, retail service, unions can, you know, make these jobs profitable. they can allow people to have retirements and to work with a standard that they can raise families with. and certainly, you know, increasing the opportunities for trade schools, i also think it is important. i think that there seems to be a lot of discouragement for unions. it seems to be a lot of kind of corporate and private sector favoritism, and i think that we have to kind of reverse that trend. >> okay. congressman? >> i respect her opinion. obviously, there's the right to
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collectively bargain. >> do you agree that unions have a role in boosting wages? >> they're certainly part of the campaign to lift wages. i think obviously, i think senator sanders is on the $15 an hour theme. i think we would lose a lot of jobs in this country if we were to raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour. >> let's talk about the presidential campaign. pennsylvania gets to vote next week. explain how republicans elect delegates, how that all works in pennsylvania. you're running to be one of those delegates. talk about that as well. >> sure. so every state in the country and the state political party, republican, needs to submit their plan to the rnc by i think october of last year. the rnc then sanctions the delegate process in that particular state. pennsylvania has historically and continues to elect delegates as follows. we have 18 congressional districts so there will be three delegates elected in each one of
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those 18 districts. that's 54. then there are 17 at-large delegates. the 17 at-large delegates that are appointed by the state party have to vote for the winner of the popular vote on the first ballot. thereafter, they can vote for whomever they like. the 54 that comprise the 18 congressional districts can vote however they would like. they are unbound, unpledged. and there's nothing they can say or do that would require that they vote for a particular candidate on the first ballot. and so that's what i think creates a heightened importance about pennsylvania heading into the convention, assuming that no candidate gets 1,237. at this point, there's only one candidate who can get 1,237. there's a lot of people running for delegates. candidly, i ran for delegate, i made the decision back in january because i felt that in my congressional district, what i didn't want to see happen is a delegate candidate run for
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delegate, get elected and have already made their mind up on who they're going to vote for and be unwilling to vote for anyone else. and with all due respect to congressman -- then-congressman paul in 2012, you know, there was oftentimes some candidates recruit delegates and they're like, i'm for candidate a and i'm never going to move. and i think delegate candidates should reflect the will of their voters and also if there's a subsequent ballot, look at things such as who is the strongest candidate in the general election. how do they perform in their state? in pennsylvania, and how are they doing in the battleground states across the country? that's a perfectly reasonable approach, so i trust my judgment, and i would also note that there's also a slate of alternate delegates. if a delegate then doesn't go to the convention, they would then be an alternate would then be put in their place. >> which candidates right now ticks off all those boxes that you just mentioned?
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>> well, i think if you look at polls in the battleground states across this country, john kasich is the only republican candidate that beats hillary clinton in the battleground states. i think number one, a republican candidate for president needs to in every state that mitt romney won. then you need to look at ohio, virginia, pennsylvania, colorado, florida. and there's four or five others. i mean, that's the presidential election, given the electorate college. it's going to come down to ten states. which candidate assuming we're on a second or third ballot, which republican candidate performs best in those states. i think that's a very, very relevant question on a second ballot. >> okay. that means if you become a delegate and when is that -- >> tuesday. tuesday, the election. same as the presidential. >> so people also will decide whether or not you get to be a delegate. you're saying on the first ballot, if your district volts for donald trump, you're going to vote for donald trump. ted cruz is saying there's
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definitely going to be a contested convention. on the second ballot, you would vote for john kasich. >> on the first ballot as a delegate, i think the delegate or the alternative delegate should reflect the will of the voters in their congressional district, and on a subsequent ballot, a lot of other factors come in. you have to weigh what happens on the first ballot, but you also need to look at who is the strongest candidate to beat hillary clinton. an interesting article this morning, i think it was in the "wall street journal." the 1,237 number means something. it's a majority of all the delegates. and if you don't get a majority of all the delegatedelegates, y only gotten a plurality, there we go, greta, which means on the second ballot, other factors become relevant. and president abraham lincoln, as we know him, would not have been president abraham lincoln were it not for a contested convention and the need to go to a second ballot because on the first ballot, no candidate got a
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majority of the delegates. >> this article in the "wall street journal" let's get this straight about the convention. as we're in a position to know, majority rule always has, always will guide the republican gathering. so for all of you that are confused or interested in how this is all going to work, this is in the "wall street journal." this morning. >> or angry. >> or angry. >> your question earlier this morning i thought was a brilliant question. is the republican party more divided or more energized? i think the answer is both. we have had historic turnout across i think every single state in the country thus far. we have a very energized party. we're divided, but we're at a moment in time where obviously every contrast between the candidates is being accentuated, and there are a lot of emotional
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voters right now. that's perfectly natural, perfectly understandable. my hope, and my belief is that by the time that the convention rolls around, and as we leave convention, we'll be a unified party with a nominee who we feel is capable of winning the general election. because just to remind every republican voter out there, and i think you agree with me, the objective has to be to nominate the strongest candidate to win in the general election. and i understand i'm talking to some democrats out there who may be voting for hillary clinton, buzz as a republican, i would like to see the republican nominee defeat hillary clinton in november, and the role of the delegate and all republican voters is to go through the evaluative process to determine who the candidate is. >> have you heard from all three republican candidates? >> i have not. i have heard from emissaries of their campaigns. operatives. >> you have heard from all three? because there's lots of talk about donald trump not reaching out to the delegates. >> by your use of the word here, i mean to say i have gotten e-mails or phone calls from
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people associated with the campaigns. >> all right. back to calls. thomas in kane, pennsylvania. republican. >> caller: yes. representative costello, and good morning, gretchen. i think you're definitely spot on as far as the vocational training in the schools. but here's my question. >> mm-hmm. >> caller: a part of the school districts in pennsylvania's budget, a large portion of it, goes to paying for pension plans in the state of pennsylvania. what can you do, and the federal representatives at the federal level, help the state representatives fix the pension plan problem in the state of pennsylvania so we can allocate more of our money to these vocational job training programs? >> sure. great question. i hate to be the bearer of bad news but i can't do anything because that is the state employees retirement system.
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it's governed entirely by state law. that would be for your state rep, state senator, and for the governor. it's one of those areas where public education is designed to be a local issue with the department of education at the state level being sort of the organizing umbrella. i'm not able to do anything. >> we'll go to bill in texas. independent caller. hi, bill. >> caller: good morning, representative costello and gretchen. i think we need a paradigm shift in the way public education is structured in the country. what we should do, in my opinion, is shift the money that's being spent on pre-k education into a 13th and 14th grade, which you have the option of taking an academic route or a vocational route. because i think parents are abdicated their responsibility,
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they're dropping off their kids, pre-k, it's baby-sitting is all it is. and we should shift that money to the 13th and 14th grade. we should make it mandatory 13th and 14th grade. paid by the school districts. free education. and then the states should provide the last two years, if you want to go on to the academic route. >> okay, bill, we have to run because we're running out of time with the congressman. >> pre-k is a school district by school district decision. obviously, the gentleman is proposing getting rid of pre-k, which is a local school district decision and adding two years at the end, which it would be expensive. and it's going to -- it would ultimately be a state determination. >> we have to end the conversation there. the house is gaveling in early this morning at 9:00 a.m. eastern time. congressman, thank you. come back again and talk to our viewers. >> this is a wonderful program. i like to watch it as much as i can, and i appreciate the
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opportunity to be here. >> great. come back. >> madam secretary. we proud ly give 72 of our delegates votes to the next president of the united states. >> the supreme court on monday heard a case about the president's plan to halt deportations for some undocumented immigrants with children who are in the country legally. the supreme court releases audio of the oral argument on friday. and you can hear it friday night
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on c-span at 8:00 p.m. eastern. >> president obama delivers his last speech at the white house correspondents' dinner a week from saturday. and coming up this saturday, c-span takes a look at some of his previous speeches from past dinners. >> no one is prouder to put this birth certificate matter to rest than the donald. and that's because he can finally get back to focusing on the issues that matter, like did we fake the moon landing? what really happened in roswell? and where are biggy and tupac?
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all kidding aside, obviously, we all know about your credentials and breadth of experience. for example, seriously, just recently in an episode of "celebrity apprentice" at the steakhouse, the men's cooking team did not impress the judges from omaha steaks. and there was a lot of blame to go around, but you, mr. trump, recognized that the real problem was a lack of leadership and so ultimately, you didn't blame lil jon or meatloaf. you fired gary busey. and these are the kinds of decisions that would keep me up at night. >> c-span's look at the president's past speeches from the white house correspondents' dinner is saturday night on c-span at 10:00 eastern.
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a house financial services subcommittee earlier this week held a hearing on how isis is profiting from its theft and looting of antiquities, artifacts, and other cultural materials. michael fitzpatrick chaired this two-hour hearing. >> the title of today's task force hearing is preventing cultural genocide, countering the plunder and sale of priceless cultural antiquities by isis. without objection, the chair is authorized to announce a recess of the chair at any time, and without objection, they will have five legislative days to
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submit extraneous materials for inclusion in the record. members of the full committee who are not members of the task force may participate in today's hearing for the purpose of making an opening statement and questioning the witnesses. the chair now recognizes himself for three minutes for an opening statement. i want to thank everyone for joining us today for the eighth hearing of the house financial services committee task force to investigate terrorism financing. again, i would like to thank chairman hen selling and waters as well as my colleagues here for their unwavering support as we continue to investigate the threat of terror finance. since it has surfaced, isis has remained substantially different than many terror organizations in its ability to self-finance due to its diverse revenue streams, pulling in funds from ransoms to oil production. one of the mostiscusses methods is the exploitation of art from syria and iraq.
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iraqi officials believe that i.s. could be generating as much as $100 million from the sale and trafficking of antiquities alone. recent events have attributed this elicit practices exclusively to i.s., but the plunder of art and antiquities has been used by transnational groups operating around the world. it's been estimated that the profit of the traffic and sale of these cultural properties may range between anywhere from $3.4 and $6.3 billion annually. this crime has and will continue to be a global problem which requires a coordinated international effort to combat. furthermore, this issue hits close to home. the fbi has credible reports that u.s. persons have been offered cultural property that has appeared to have been removed from syria. the united states must do its part in curbing the demand for these cultural and artistic pieces by taking another look at customer due diligence and improving coordination with our
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international partners. this is a revenue stream exploited by illicit actors around the world, and it cannot continue unabated. i believe that today's hearing with this expert panel of witnesses will help illustrate the scale and severity of this issue as well as offer measured to best combat and diminish this despicable practice. at this time, i would like to recognize the task force's ranking member, mr. lynch from massachusetts, for four minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i also want to thank chairman hen selling and waters as well for holding the hearing and i would like to welcome and thank our distinguished panel of experts for helping the task force with this important work. today's hearing will focus on how the united states can counter the plunder and sale of priceless cultural antiquities by the islamic state and others. other relevant themes of today's hearing, while focused on
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antiquities are analogous to what we have seen throughout our task force hearings, especially those concerns related to trade based money laundering. to cut off the flow of financing to terrorist organizations, we need better information sharing on all fronts, and this includes improvements in information sharing between government agencies, between countries, and with the private sector. we also need to be able to track the true owners of property, whether that property is an ancient artifact or a high-rise apartment building. we need to cut off tride routes than organizations funnel illicit goods. thus, the same strategies can be used in a broader strategy to combat isis. in a previous hearing in trade based money laundering, they discussed the routes isis used to smuggle territory in

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