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back with you in a moment. please, again, give a big hand to the prime minister. [ applause ]
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all right, ladies and gentlemen, i want to pivot the conversation to hear from our australian counterparts. our commitment to working together beyond this dialogue is critical to the growth and development of our state economies. increasingly, across our two countries we are seeing hurdles and opportunities to this economic growth created by new innovations. today with my fellow governors and the australian premiers and chief ministers we are hoping to learn from our peers on the different approaches to these shared challenges and what innovative policies have been developed in the face of these fast-pace changes. so now i want to turn to the queensland premier who i had the pleasure of meeting during my
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travels to australia. the premier will tell us about what's driving queen land's innovation economy and what role do you see the united states playing in that. good morning, premier. >> good morning and thank you very much, governor, it's a pleasure to be here with all of our counterparts, lovely to hear from our prime minister. i think we've got a lot of opportunities to work cleverly together and to share ideas. in fact, this is my fourth visit to the united states as premier and every time i try to visit a new state and a lot of the ideas i pick up i take back to queensland. we have a very diversified economy and we have a program called advanced queensland which is a $450 million fund which woe ear investing in business development, in industry attraction, in scholarships, especially for women to allow women to stay involved in rez j
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research and i'm proud in my cabinet we have 50% women as well. so it's a world first. [ applause ] we've been able to achieve that for two terms. we know we need to continue to diversify from some of the traditional areas of agriculture and resources and the prime minister was talking about being export driven. >> we've increasing d our exports to $70 billion and being so close to asia we believe there's a great opportunity for u.s. companies to use us as a foot in the door to get into those kmeesz beieconomies being and within the shared time zone. so i honestly believe that in terms of renewable energy there's great opportunities for us to share our latest technologies, but also to -- if you're going to prepare people for the jobs of the future, you need to look at your education systems as well and i would be interested to hear from other
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governors, we have coding and robotics starting at prep in all of our schools. i believe that gives us the opportunity to really prepare our children for the future. we have great governor sandoval will be signing a sister state relationship later on today, looking at allowing an exchange of students from your state to my state. but also to look at where that innovation is happening in other areas that we can promote. so our advanced queensland fund has created more than 9,000 jobs already in queensland. it's only been operating for a couple of years, but we firmly believe that through innovation you can create those jobs of the future, but you have to, in my state, i'm very hands-on, i get out, i meat with people, i look at opportunities, i connect them with people, and i think if you
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work collaboratively together it can lead to great outcomes. so thank you very much for the opportunity to share those thoughts today. [ applause ] >> thank you. i'd like to now introduce the premier of australia's most populous state -- >> popular? >> i'm not going there, premier. new south wales premier. your state has taken an innovative approach to investment. new south wales is known for leveraging a unique infrastructure financing model and now you've become a leader in social impact investment. if you would please elaborate on both of those. and welcome. >> thank you, governor sandoval. it's my absolute pleasure to be here and to share some of the different things we've been doing in new south wales. our innovative approach to
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financial management has put our budget in a very strong position and our economy is growing pastor than about 30 oecd nations. what we call asset repsyching. we looked at what assets the government had and could we involve the private sector more in owning those assets or leasing them over a period of time. in so doing, we've raised net more than $30 billion in the last three or four years. in addition to that, it's really strengthened our budget position. that's meant we've been able to invest that into our infrastructure pipelines. we have no government debt on our books. a growing balance sheet of over 40% over the -- an industry pipeline of $80 billion worth for a state of 8 billion people. we're building a new metro in greater sidney. major roads, schools, hospitals because of our financial approach. in addition, we're seeing innovative approaches to
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infrastructure because we're building so much at the one time. we're really learning how to manage that growth. and i'd be interested to share -- to share experiences of other states because i know infrastructure is very topical at the moment in the states. we'd be really happy to share that. in relation to social impact investment, we've been able to collaborate with the nongovernment sector, community organizations and private investors in areas of -- in child protection, in areas like dealing with recidivism for people who leave prisons. allowing collaboration between the three sectors. the private sector gets a return on their investment by purchasing bonds. the government gets social cohesion in getting greater outcomes. we've seen as a government the more we involve the private sector and the community sector, emo the more we've improved. we've used technology to improve the customer experience. we now have a shop front where
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you can do 850 transactions either online or in person, ranging from getting a license to government information to any other information. your touch point in government is a one stop shop now in new south wales and we're trying to increase that platform through technology. the new message is we're excited about our investment in infrastructure of $80 billion over the next four years. many american companies are helping us build that infrastructure, we can't do it on our owns. so thank you for the opportunity. >> well-said. [ applause ] >> thank you, premier, and congratulations on all of your success. now i'm pleased to introduce for the remarks the premier of new south wales' neighboring state, victoria, and introduce victoria premier andrews. i had the pleasure of meeting with premier andrews in melbourne, where i saw
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victoria's innovation in biotechnology and infrastructure. premier andrews, would you please describe how you have developed those sectors and what role international engagement has played in that. >> it's a great honor and privilege for us to be here today and to hear from our prime minister but also to share thoughts and do some listening and learning from the experience of so many of our sovereign subnational colleagues here at the nga. last night at the embassy we talked a lot about the fact that we had shared values and a shared experience in terms of sacrifice, but also a shared positivity, a shared hopefulness about the way in which our partnership and relationship can become stronger and stronger for the mutual benefit of both citizens and taxpayers in our jurisdictions and right across the united states as well. part of that is not taking the relationship for granted, so it is great to see us doing new things and committing ourselves to even further strengthening of
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that important partnership. you've prompted me to talk about infrastructure. the prime minister already began that conversation by pointing to asset recycling and victoria has a very good example of that. our port, the busiest container port in our nation, we sold that. this is basically a left of center government, a democrat government from your point of view. selling one of our biggest public assets because it served no purpose having it on our books. it would be a lazy balance sheet to rethat asset. we got a record price and invested that in the biggest road and rail infrastructure plan the state has ever seen. that is driving jobs, economic opportunities, skills atainment. we simply couldn't be doing it without so many of our u.s. partners and friends. that's true asset recycling, putting to use capital that has no real use being on our books. beyond that, in terms of public/private partnerships, which i know is very much part of that national conversation
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that president trump wants to have around the infrastructure task. we've got a lot to offer, i think, there. always things to learn, too, but in victoria we've got away some 31 of those public/private partnerships, everything from parcels of schools, valuing as little as $200 million. up to toll roads that are 15, 16, $17 billion in scope. i think there is a lot that we can share and there are a lot of opportunities from a professional services point of view. in terms of innovation, melbourne and victoria has always been well-known for really, really good science biotechnological and medical devices. assisted by research and learning here in the united states. and in terms of taking products to market, those linkages are really very, very important and highly valued by us. we're pivoting, i think, to to becoming not just a hub to the region or a launching pad to our asia-pacific region in biotechnology and medical
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research, increasingly in the tech sector and particularly the cyber security sector, we're becoming a think a leader in our nation and an opportunity for our partners and our better partners in our endeavors than our oldest and trusted friends which, of course, are the people and there are representishes here in the united states. it's a great hoerp fnor for us here. but also to learn and to commit ourselves to an even stronger partnership as we look to the future. thank you so much, governor. [ applause ] >> thank you, premier andrews. now we'd love to hear from premier mcgowan, from western australia, which covers 1/3 of australia's mainland. please share a few words on the innovations in your state, sir. >> thanks, governor. just so you underwestern australia, it's 35% of the
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nation's land mass, the same size as texas, alaska and california put together. and we have a very strong history and relationship with the united states of america, particularly because in the second world war, the largest submarine base in the southern hemisphere was in perth, our capital, at our port freemantle. in fact, it was the second biggest submarine base in the world in the second world war. senator john mccain's father, admiral mccain, was based in freemantle for a number of years during the second world war and the mccain family has a strong memory of our city. our city is also -- our state is also the place of origin of people you might have heard of, heath ledger and same worthington. hugh jackman did acting training in western australia, and one very longstanding connection between the united states and western australia is your president herbert hoover, the 31st president of the united states of america, from '28 to
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'32, we worked as a mining engineer in our gold fields in the late 1800s for around three years where he ran a range of gold mines there. one of the hotels in the local towns is called the white house as a consequence. he left australia following a torrid experience with a bar maid, consequently and headed back to the united states. our state is a very strong mining province. chevron has invested in oil and gas in western australia over the course of the last eight or so years, around 80 billion australian dollars. we have strong gold mining and other industries. but we're far more than that. the thing that i think is most appealing to the united states, apart from our shared history, is the fact that we're located
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in the same time zone as 60% of the world's population to our north, china, japan, all the countries of asia. it's an ideal place for headquarters for american companies that want to interact with the region to our north and it's also an ideal location for industries like defense and u.s. ship repair and maintenance and u.s. ship visits and the like. so we actually do have a range of companies headquartered in western australia. it's an ideal place to do business. it's located in the right part of the world and there is that strong shared connection and shared history between western australia and the united states. so thanks very much for having me here. i look forward to today's events. [ applause ] >> thanks you, mr. mere mcgowan, for your insights. that's a lot of land. continuing on this conversation, we'd love to hear again from australia capital territory
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premier chief minister barr. chief minister barr, as you represent your country's capital, and we are in ours, we'd love to hear more about what the australian capital territories and international engagement strategy is. good morning and welcome, sir. >> thank you. as australia's national capital, canberra takes our -- through our international engagement strategy we as a small, open economy seek to attract new capital and new investment into our city. canberra is home to australia's best educated, wealthiest, healthiest, longest living and happiest australians. [ laughter ] and as the national capital, we are, of course, home to the australian government, and one in three of my constituents works for the prime minister, and that brings considerable benefits, both in our relationship with the united
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states, exemplified through partnerships in the space industry, for example, where the world saw neil armstrong walk on the moon courtesy of the honeysuckle creek deep space tracking center in canberra. those first images were beamed around the world from canberra, reflecting our very strong space industry and partnerships with nasa. as the prime minister mentioned, wi-fi technology was developed in australia, it was developed by the commonwealth scientific and industrial research organization. so it's home to five universities. the canberra institute of technology. we are australia's education capital. we are a small city of 420,000 people. so we need new investment in order to grow, but we have the great advantage, and in my role as both governor and mayor of
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the city of canberra to be the most innovative government in australia, to be able to quickly implement new public policy and we've done so through many different programs and projects, including infrastructure investment, public/private partnerships, tax increment finance, land value capture, all of the best examples of public policy that we've heard around the table today. it can be implemented in canberra, australia's capital and we seek to lead our nation through the good implementation of public policy. thank you for the opportunity to say those words today. >> thank you, chief minister barr, truly appreciate your attendance today. and lastly, chief minister gunner, will you close out these remarks by discussing how the northern territory is using new innovations to revitalize its rural economy, workforce and defense systems? good morning, sir. >> thank you, governor sandoval.
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most americans will know the northern territory as home of the rock, and the setting of the crocodile dundy movies. we're obviously very supportive of australia's push to get more americans to visit our great country. i actually want to start with a thank you. i call darvin the capital of the northern territory home. this week, 19th, monday, we commemorated the bombing of darwin. 76 years ago, the same fleet that bombed pearl harbor bombed us and 235 people died that day. nearly half were americans. i call darwin home still. because of the sacrifices of young australians and young americans. and i just want to say on behalf of the people of the northern territory, thank you for defending our country in world war ii. [ applause ]
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just as america realized the strategic value of darwin then, you do today, and we obviously have the u.s. marine rotations through the northern territory and we have enhanced air cooperation that is existing between our two countries as well. darwin is right at the top of australia, and it is easier for us to get to indonesia, vietnam, the philippines, singapore, than it is for us to travel to our nation's capital. we are engaged with asia. we are a huge land mass. we're twice the size of texas, but with only 1% of texas' population. the prime minister and governor sandoval both mentioned trade, and i do a lot of work through the asian region, particularly to sell the economic opportunities of investment in the northern territory and australia, and a constant message i receive, and this
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shouldn't be saying we -- people want it to be easier to invest across state boundaries. they want greater certainty of how we work together within australia. i'm not sure if you get the same message here in america. and so i've taken that on board and we've had the first ever joint cabinet meeting in australia. so my government sat down with the south australian cabinet and we met and we sorted out some of those issues that cross state borders. i put the same offer on the table to our fellow premiers, catching up with andrew barr and anastasia, very interested in doing something similar so we can sell our country properly. and the investment opportunities are easier for companies. and i think that's a really important message for us to take on board. that's what i'm hearing. and so we're trying to inonovat in how we do government to make it even easier for people to invest. thank you. [ applause ]
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>> thank you, chief minister gunner. now is an opportunity for the governors to have an exchange and a dialogue with the premiers. so i was going to ask my vice chair governor bullock to ask the first question. >> great. again, each of you, thank you for being here. this is both significant and i recognize that it's historical. as well to have the prime minister here. for any of you as we talk about the opportunities that we have as a -- at a subnational level, certainly that we have 50 diverse states, but all afford opportunities for enhanced relationship with each of you. in addition, though, as we signed, like, a memorandum of agreement between our respective organizations, what suggestions
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do you have to further enhance either the state or the subnational relationships between where you govern and where we govern? >> i might chime in, governor bullock. i think in terms of really deepening our relationships, if there is a particular policy idea or initiative we see a state doing, i'd like to have a buddy system where we can spend time in other people's jurisdictions where we can deep dive into a particular policy or delivery method we think we can apply for our own jurisdictions. think today is a start of deepening that relationship in order to have true partnerships into the future. i'd like to see us progress that potentially with having buddy states in areas of policy or cooperation that we think we can improve the lives of our citizens. >> just if i can say from a west
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australian point of view, western australia has sister state relationships with provinces in japan, china, italy, and indonesia. we don't have any sister state relationship with any state in the united states, and i think those sorts of arrangements do seen to -- they do enhance that cooperation and exchange of ideas and exchange of cultural and social activity and educational cooperation which students from which jurisdiction go to which state. those are things i'm interested in. i've had a conversation with the governor of texas, about texas, which is 1/3 the size of western australia. and joining in a sister state relationship. those sorts of things i think are very beneficial, and so -- i know queensland's organizing one -- i heard in your speech, premier, so that's the sort of thing that western australia thinks would help. >> thank you.
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were there any other premiers who wished to respond? >> i was just going to add to governor bullock's question, we have a significant in market presence with officers and staff in boston, new york, washington and san francisco, and i may have missed one along the way, but it's a significant in market presence, and i think that's geared more towards relationships between service providers, investors, business-to-business, maybe picking up the point gladys has made, maybe there is a better opportunity for us to have better government-to-government relationships principally through those in-market trade staff who are about making deals. maybe we can make some good policy exchanges as well through that. we'd certainly be very pleased to do that. >> governor bevin? >> i'm intrigued by the comments that some of you have made about the privatation of certain public assets. this is something that has been
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talked about in large measure in the u.s. but there's not been much progress made on this front. think we could learn a lot from you. if you could either one of you -- a couple of you in particular spoke about it, although perhaps all of you have some experience. any of you that could give us some insight to when did this process begin? who were the strongest advocates for? who were the greatest opponents of? and more critically, are there any restrictions as it we would relate to who the acquirers of certain assets might be? any advice or insight, even at 30,000 feet might be helpful. >> certainly. i might sepp in first, if that's okay. in new south wales, we started the process in earnest five or six years ago. the biggest challenge is bringing the community with you. what we said to the community, instead of owning a telegraph pole, you can own a school, hospital, new railway line, a new road. it was about explaining to the
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community having an asset which the private sector could run better was no use to the community. we would be better off taking that capital up front and investing in the things the community needed. that was our way of winning them over -- my predecessor took that policy to an election. we had a mandate to do that. we've managed to recycle assets in relation oh our electricity distribution network, our land titles ports, a pension fund, which we -- government shouldn't be running. so what we did, however, is make sure that government is a strong regulator. the community needs to know at the end of the day the government has responsibility for making sure that all our essential services and infrastructure run properly. so long as you can assure the community you have a strong regulatory framework in place and that this investment, the capital you're reaping from the long -- we have long-term leases we set a 99-year lease or a 35-year lease depends on the asset. we said to the community, well,
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we're better off using that capital up front to invest in things you need. that's now allowed us to deliver a pipeline of $80 billion worth of infrastructure. and our economy's growing really fast. people are starting to see the benefits and they're excited that they get a new school, a new hospital, a new road, as opposed to lack of visibility on asset which just sat on our balance sheet. >> i would love to get to yours as well, premier andrews. was it predetermined that the resulting -- >> yes. >> sale. -- >> the proceeds would be plowed back in to infrastructure? >> absolutely. >> was that done legislatively then? >> it wasn't done legislatively, but we took it to an election. and the important thing is, we used to hear in other jurisdictions around the world where people or governments use to recycle assets to retire debt, that doesn't work. you need to reinvest it into the community and grow the community and the balance sheet, which is
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what we've done, and our net worth as a state is going to grow by 40% because of the investment in infrastructure has really triggered a lot of private investment. the business community is excited about what we're doing so they're also investing and it's really allowing our state to have the biggest boom in infrastructure we've ever had. thank you. >> governor bevin, our experience is very similar to the new south wales experience. if you own an asset that has a significant capital value and there is no good public policy reason for it to be in public hands then that money is essential being wasted. it can be repurposed, retasked. provided you get the regulatory framework right and the labor relations right. provided you don't compromise the core purpose of that asset, then you can put that money to much, much better use. this debate for us is a little bit like borrowing as well. money's cheap at the moment. capital's very mobile and there is a great urgency, there is an
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impatience in the citizenry to get things built. people want progress. they want development. whether it's infrastructure at a local scale, a school, a hospital, or better transport connections. the only way to get that done is to borrow more. and we do that in a mature way, but we all guard jealously the credit ratings we have, at least we do -- i'm sure all of us do. that means there are limits to how much you can borrow. if you have assets that really don't need to be on the books, we had a public debate, we took this policy to the election, we were not in government at the time and received that coming to government mandate to do it. we got a very good price and very clear about where the proceeds would go. it's part of an infrastructure agenda that's got 65,000vict rans 65,000vict 65,000vict -- >> one final quick follow-up. if the government of china or a
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major chinese player wanted to buy one of your ports, what would preclude that? >> perhaps i should talk about that. >> bad example, good example. >> i provide lessons learned. we did sell our port and a chinese company bought it. i got licked off the back of that. i was in opposition when the port was sold -- port leased. what we've done to provide confidence in that strategic asset in how it is used and used properly is the company still carries 100% of the costs and they get 100% of the profits, but we've now got a 20% stake in the port and we have a direct appointment over the say of the ceo, the cfo, the coo. if they make any changes, we essentially get a say in the board makeup, so we've got much greater say in the decision-making. so that provides a lot more
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confidence and also wove got the utilities commissioner and the regime around pricing and that regulatory side, but we've found with those changes, we've had a lot more confidence to people who were worried about how the port was being managed. sometimes you've got to retain some level of stake as a government. but we sold it -- sorry, leased it, and got the money so the returns that premier andrews are talking about we still got, but you've got to have that level of -- >> governor, just to give you a degree of confidence, in australia, the states are responsible obviously for managing the assets and building the infrastructure, but our foreign investment review board, which the national government runs, has a strategic responsibility to tick any foreign investment in a strategic asset. so before we actually lease the asset, it has to go through the foreign investment review board. if they're local players, it doesn't. some of our assets, local pension funds, australian-based.
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local moms and dads are investing in this road. if it's a strategic investment with foreign investment, the national body has the tick-off, so that gives our community confidence that there is that framework in place. >> to end on a positive note, the china sovereign wealth fund is a significant part of the concordi consortium. that purchased australia's largest port. i think it does deliver good outcomes. there are others who would have different views, but we get the job done. sorry? >> do you have a stake in it? >> no, we would be consulted, perhaps, but nothing more than that. it's run against a whole lot of strategic and imperatives that have to be run at a national level. >> any other questions from governors for our premiers? >> i suppose i'll ask one.
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you know, i've been impressed with the fact that australia's enjoyed 25-plus years of prosperity without a recession, and so i'm curious as to what you attribute that to and what is your biggest challenge in each of your respective states. >> thank you, governor sandoval. the biggest challenge for us is sustaining our growth and preparing future employees, the job skills and training. and so generally speaking, our infrastructure pipeline, our asset recycling, our strong budget position, allows us to be in a position to continue to grow, but our biggest challenge and making sure we have the skills, the right skills, and that we have an eye to the jobs of the future. 11, 12 and 13-year-olds will be working in jobs we haven't thought about yet.
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we've focused on skills and educational development. that has sustained our economy. being early adopters of technology. being first movers in a lot of ways. definitely my state is focussing on jobs and skills and attracting that investment to continue to grow our economy. we also managed to reduce taxes in the last two budgets. we've allowed the business community to really flourish as well. but i think the biggest challenge for us moving forward is jobs and skills in education. >> just to attribute our states -- our nation's success over the last 27 years, what happened in the 1980s, we had a very reformist national government, and it removed the trade barriers that australia had built up over many years. it deregulated a whole range of sectors of the economy, but in particular the banking sector, and it floated the australian dollar. so from that point forward, our economy boomed in areas that
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we're essentially good at. in western australia, my state, the mining industry in particular, did extraordinarily well. so now we have some very, very successful miners on a world scale that export not only to the region but principally to the region but around the world as well. if i was to say the one thing that is the biggest issue for me, sort of the flip side of that, which is our state's economy is very focused on one industry, as important as it is, but we also need to make sure we diversify our economy into other areas. so whilst i'm here and i'm talking to people about tourism or definite investment or all the other sectors of the economy, innovation, all the other sectors of the economy that western australia has the skills base for, which are primarily engaged in mining but we'd like to see a broadening of our state's economy base. so if you have investment that you want to put into a very successful place with a very nice lifestyle and you want to
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send your staff somewhere where they don't want to ever come home again, send them to western australia and you'll be able to divest yourself of staff that might be problematic and -- [ laughter ] and create a business in a very welcoming and very decent place to live. >> thanks, governor. i would observe the success in the australian economy has been a large degree of bipartisanship on key economic settings over three decades now. and although different sides of politics will have many things to argue about, where there has been consistency for australia has been in pursuit of free trade. in establishing consistent regulatory policy settings in so many sectors of our economy. and in spite of some of the competitive federalism that you've seen around the table today, it's mostly been in good
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humor. all has been in good humor. we are able to work together effectively to achieve a range of national ends. and the challenges that most of us are facing now are the pains of growth. they say economics is a dismal science, and there is always a downside to where your economy is at, but for many of us it's challenges of near full employment, skill shortages, but in some instances it's needing to attract capital into certain industries that are needed to diversify our economy. our situation is the complete opposite of western australia, in that we have no natural resources. we are entirely a service-based economy, but yet that represents a wonderful opportunity for us, and although we are only about 1.7% of australia's population, we now generate nearly 3% of our nation's service exports. so that open approach and
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export-focused approach is what's generating jobs in our city, and, of course, being home to the australian government is a wonderful boost for us. >> governor? >> i want to again thank all the premiers for being here, and as the prime minister alluded to, i had the great honor and privilege of serving as chairman of an australian-based software company which had the distinction of being the fastest growing software company in australia. started by two mates from the university. now as a market cap of over $12 billion and employs close to 3,000 people. my question for the premiers, because it was alluded to about the importance of skills and workforce and the digital
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transformation, but maybe want to go a few clicks deeper on things or ideas that you might have for us in terms of how you're billing out the appropriate skills and recruiting and retaining talent because i know that when we were building, we were constantly challenged by having the right kinds of senior skill sets there. but also i want to say condprgr to your university system. they decided to start this company right out of university. and what a job they've done. >> absolutely. making great contribution to new south wales australia and the world. what we've done as a government is actually put in seed funding to adopt premises in the heart of our cbd to encourage greater collaboration between our i.t. sector and our incubator hubs. we recently set one up in new south wales, in greater sidney, 11 floors, and we're seeing a lot of start-up community
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members now adopt that place. and essentially any person in our state who has an idea comes and makes their pitch to a global brand. microsoft chose sidney as the eighth place in the world to set up in this particular hub as well because of the innovative way we've done that. that's one way we're doing that. another ways is we're using the intellectual property that exists in those organizations to help us reduce our back office cost in government. we've consolidated a lot of our back office, so we can invest money on the front lines. leveraging people in the private sector to drive down our costs and create greater services as well. thank you. >> any other questions from our governors. ladies and gentlemen, please join me in thanking our premiers and chief ministers for joining us today. [ applause ] coming up here on c-span3,
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discussions by the nation's governors on issues facing their states. we begin with a conversation about food and agriculture policy. followed by how states are handling opioid addiction and treatment. then some of this year's state of the state addresses. we have speeches from west virginia, maine, connecticut, wyoming and new hampshire. liberty con is taking place this weekend in washington, d.c. it's a series of speakers, panels and workshops about public policy, hosted by a libertarian student organization called students for liberty. our live coverage begins at 6:30 p.m. eastern on c-span2, with the conversation between political commentator dave ruber and reason tv chief editor nick gillespie. tonight, listen to the supreme court oral arguments over whether government workers have to pay union dues if their job is represented by a union.
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that is tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span. monday on c-span's "landmark cases." we'll explore the civil rights cases of 1883. the supreme court decision that struck down the civil rights act of 1875, a federal law that granted all people access to public accommodations like trains and theaters, regardless of race. justice john marshall harlan known as the lone dissenter. eclipsed the legacy of the majority decision. explore this case with danielle holly-walker. and attorney and a member of the u.s. commission on civil rights. watch "landmark cases" live monday at 9:00 eastern, on c-span, or listen with the free c-span radio app. for background on each case
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while you watch, order your cop of the companion book, available for $8.95 plus shipping and handling at a link on our website to the national constitution center's interactive constitution. more now from the national governor's association winter meeting. we're switching topics to food and agriculture policy. the issues including expanding u.s. trade, land grants for research and encouraging more young people to enter agriculture industry. the forum is led by wyoming governor matt meade. >> good afternoon, everybody. thank you so much for being here. we've got some more governors coming. my name is matt meade. i'm the governing of wyoming. i'm pleased to have with me governor bullock. this is a session many of


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