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next on american history three women are placed on their experiences working on the apollo space program, sharing how they overcame challenges and their roles with nasa, this program was hosted by the national air and space museum law, you know we feel strongly that with the right inspiration and support one of our visitors could go on and change the world, in fact we know that the first person will have stepped through our doors first and maybe she will come back here to give a lecture of iran some day, before introducing our speakers i'm really excited to also let you know that we have a special guest he was able to join us at the last moment, her name is marianne johnson, like
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the women featured in the movie she was one of the space program's hidden figures, she was an engineer at the nasa special center in huntsville and alabama working for the sponsor tonight's event, she worker on a team that determine the path if the rocket fell back, their work was vital for safety planning in after a successful career in technology she now teaches for the next generation of computer workers, please join me and recognizing and welcoming this marion lead johnson. (applause) but liz johnson tonight speaker certainly knows what it's like to blaze trails and defy expectations. throughout this year 50th and a victory
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celebrations of the apollo 11th mission, i've been moved by those stories that i finally find a spotlight on the inspiring woman who helped make our exploration of space possible. we were lucky to have three of them today on the panel with us tonight. a space engineer, engineer popular guy and medical researcher tactics carolyn. each of our speakers tell us about her journey and will have a time for audience questions afterwards. joanna i'm start with you. john moore to launch control at kennedy space center was the only woman in the firing room during the launch of apollo 11. it faces the coming familiar d.c. which i love. she was also the first woman senior executive at kennedy space center and i scientists advocacy for women in science engineering spans five decades. drawn welcome. >> thank you. (applause) well first i want to
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thank you and also dr. neil valerie is sterling in and boeing for sponsoring something like this. this is so unexpected in my life, 50 years after i did something all of a sudden it's important. actually i knew at the time of apollo 11 i was working on something incredibly important i was a kid in florida and i was lucky enough to see, explore, who won, our countries for a satellite launch. the satellite itself sponsored by jp a discovered the radiation belts. at 17, in my mind, i thought this is profound new knowledge for everybody on our planet. this whole launching business and
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going to space and putting satellites up there. it will change the world i'm living in and i am getting in on it. i applied for a job as an engineer right out of a high school. i've been accepted until university of florida and i was and he didn't adequately is in high school -- thank goodness the ad set student and they heard one boy in me. i wouldn't even apply. i had to call the standard and supervision. i had a wonderful immediately -- looked everybody know this is not a coffee grown. she's going to be an engineer sunday. we are giving an engineer job. i had a to provide success that me down the path of my career. what are we putting a photo and i wanted to tell you a few facts about women in 1969. 400,000 people
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across this great country who worked on the apollo 11 mission to make it happen. there was no infrastructure in space. everything is on the ground. you know what that meant to her old enough. tons of paper. procedures. we have to write everything by hand and to calculations by hand. women were there at kennedy space center. we had 24,000 people that year. 1969. 500 of the nasa team, which were about 10%, for 2000 of those twentysomethings battles and, only 20 of those women were technical. i knew each one of them, i'll tell each of us were set in their front rooms. i was
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in the launch control. she was a guidance engineer looking at a computer. i truly shannon burger who is over there helping buzz aldrin when he suited up and her friend and montgomery. we were sprinkled around just one here and there and yet somehow or another we were part of a team and that apollo 11 was just such a great team and so unified and i think one of the most inspiring things to me and watching in every time i see it again the landing itself i think of not only where we in this country unified but people all around the planet. they were watching the landing. i was watching him with my husband and i had a holiday i was on the gulf of mexico with him and we saw these kinds of hearings people in japan australia and around
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the world. people caring so much. i thought it was wonderful. actually that launch launched my career. it was my first to launch. i think there are working that they did not let me sit there and lift off. there was always a man at that council and my thoughts went to bed i got permission for me to sit there. all of a sudden it made a difference. i got seen by everybody and she said she's been working her for ten years isn't it about time? it's a little bit about my story. it's great to be here with you. (applause) >> she began her career and areas with as a human a country that was pretty quickly promoted to engineer working in mission control a johnson space center underway turn to its
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trajectory. her presence and mission control to the incident of the media and placed her in the public eye making her and inspiration to young boys and girls around the world. poppy. >> unlike john, i did not have this big plans to be in the space program. i graduated from the university of texas with a degree in mathematics and want to look for a job. i'm from houston. i found a job as a computer us (laughs) that really was the job title. as a computer choice computress which was a contractor from nasa. i never worked for nasa worked for a contractor. most of the people who worked on the space program worked for contractors. boeing was a
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contractor. many contractors were off the. i thought a gendered computer, what is this? i have never heard such a title in my life. since then i found a lot of history about it. many of you learned that this woman was called computress this as well. the job title goes further back in that when women were used as cipher breakers and they too were curled computers or computresses. i was very fortunate and worked my butt off okay? but i got promoted and became a member of the technical staff which was our word for being an engineer and then by chance, i ended up being the first woman in
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operation of support around in mission control during the flight to apollo aides. what i worked with the development of a return to eight capability. that is the trajectory calculating the trajectory to bring the spacecraft back to the road from the moon. i am very specialized. lunar operations was what i worked on. not bringing them back from earth. lunar. expected to be on the control center but the exhilarated the schedule in apollo aides and we were a mission critical function for obvious reasons. if you are going to the moon you do want to come back. (laughs) but they accelerated the schedule and that meant that we were all sort of that is to get our program into the real time
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computer complex. people have been there. it was a complex program for the time and there were the computers. we didn't calculate the stuff by hand. maybe they did at lodge control but we did not. if you're going to the moon you do not calculated by hand. more coming back. you might miss the earth if you try to do that. not a good plan. the coming back to the guard from the moon is so different and coming back from earth orbit that the ritual officers and the people in the control center were not experienced so using the program and so we were asked, the people who developed a program, to sit in the control center to help on that. i was privileged to be over there for apollo aides. that was my first answer me the most exciting mission because it was new. ten,
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11, 12 and yes, 13. my workers used in every one of the. it was a very interesting time and a very exciting time and i'm so happy to see all of these young women in the room because people think that were inspirations. i'm inspired by you. i hope that you will not hidden figures. i hope you will be out and about and screaming you're name to encourage other women to go into this exciting area. >> thank you papi. (applause) >> the current at the center leading the study of how the human body adapts to space flight. in 1994. she became the
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first woman to serve as director of johnson space center. carolyn. >> thank you. thank you allen and thank boeing for their support of this extra serious and of course to pay tribute to john gland. this year is named after. he was a hero for all of us and it is nice to be at the lecture. i went to the johnson space center the national research council research associate you could say, the experiment i proposed, it was accepted, western study the changes in the fluid electromagnets absolutism. on loan all control, and space flight crews. you've got an experiment you can go to it. that was expecting it was just
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the beginning. getting the crews to participate on the people to get involved like we needed for the trainers as well as other medical people that was a big tried to do but we did it. i have studied at the college of medicine with researchers who had worked on the john i program, and that was the first time that we had done actual measurements on astronauts from space. we brought back you're in and blood sandals and food sandals and sandals and the idea was to study in great depth backer of the german i guess because we wanted to make sure that we kept sending a polo crew members to the moon and back without any problem. we worked
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on that frigid 90 did a great job. i came very interested in it so when i have the opportunity to get down ten to continue the studies, with a poll, of course i jumped at the chance to do that. there was a small medical group, tremendous people, we worked long hours and hard hours. i was the only woman in the group, except for a couple of technical attacks and we also had as it would happen we had a nice support from the center management. this was all of nasa, not necessarily the great support from the astronaut office because they want medical people working but i work that. we had the opportunity at that time most unusual studies. they have that hadn't not exist anywhere else in the world. not even in russia. no one was
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doing what i was doing at the time so i sort of had to find my own way but i had to support from many great mentors. i like to pay homage to those guys because they treated me with respects as well as encouraged my work and supported what i was doing. but i think is very important aspect of anyone's job and i try to do that and pass it on people because i grew up in the management system and nasa that's the way they did apollo, notation dan and i came to washington many years later and i would be in meetings and people would bring up how they did things during apollo and i said you are there, how did you
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know? >> but it became a reputation and you all know that for sure but the things that i would mention have stuck with me is with a team building that we did with apollo and i do that with my work all the way through the years and i were to nasa and it's not just the people there all the space center but also the people from academia, and we brought in experts from all over the world to help us on issues that we had, we also brought in people from the industry that helped us a great deal in building and creating technical things that we needed for the spacecraft to do our medical experiences and work, so team building was i think a very important aspect of the apollo way of doing things, we also set very high goals, we decided we were going to go to the moon and we did,
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we decided we are going to learn as much as we heard about humans and we set high goals, we also did, i want to mention we contracted to carry out things that we did not know had to do, we work with many people around the country to learn to do things and who is not an easy task, some of the things we had but we've got how do we weren't afraid to ask for how, we weren't afraid to ask after we got the, help we were on average have things reviewed and they were and afraid to have things criticize, and think that is part of the way we learn to do business, the other thing i would mention is that we had a way of doing things, looking at the way work was stand and the configuration control, once things got a locked in, the waiting things with nasa and apollo we kept
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them under my control and things do not get changed unless you justify the changes to high-level committee, this help me for the rest of my career because i learned about getting a rate and keeping it right and keeping it under control and not making a lot of changes, i mentioned that we had several other women in the medical group and their only a few engineers at the time and we all eventually crossed paths and became friends, i think the big issue about having so few women at the time is that they did not know that they could go to work, and as soon as an asset decided to advertised and bring women and and bring them a research associates and college students at all and women took a bigger role and of course years later we decided
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to select in train women astronauts in that really opened the doors for women to come and work there, so that also is not very helpful. >> thank you., (applause) i'm gonna stand so i can see well better, i'm gonna ask a few questions but were gonna leave a ton of time for both people here and in the planetarium to ask questions, please be thinking of questions that you would like to ask these amazing questions, just start out, you talked about working on the return to earth and obviously this is a silly question because no one had returned to earth from the moon before, so what was the most challenging part is the answer, i think has not ever done it before but i'm curious how you even start, well you start
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early, you start early and you work really hard but, you don't have much time because the whole decision is made in august. >> he had been working on. and >> we had been working on, and we have been developing the return to earth program for several years but to just give you an example of how far you have to go, when we started working on, developing their return to earth program, people may not understand, they always landed in the middle of the pacific ocean, if you remember that far, that is picard because the mist distance was bigger than the atlantic ocean mom. now by the time they were flying they were landing on the ship, but what we are doing is we were perfecting the solution
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to the problem, is not a closed farm solution and, the big challenges that you had to do a lot of optimization because you had to meet the reentry card or you burn out, you have to minimize fuel and time, so on it's just a tremendous amount of working on computers and improving you are targeting and always trying to get better, but the last few months were a gigantic crash as we try to find every bug, you can't have bugs when you're flying to them, it's too critical, we just had india, india just had a lunar mission and on i'm still hoping that they're going to be in contact with their lander but the tiniest little era is
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magnified tremendously when you're talking about distances, especially distances to the moon so it's super important that quality control is just everything on. >> go ahead. >> i just want to follow up on that, the folks in houston and mission control, we had 23 critical events to go to the moon and returned safely, for the launch team only five is what we have to worry about, we practice all five, we practice them on apollo eight and nine and ten, marshall where mr. johnson was, practiced engine testing, we rehearsed and rehearsed for five years, they didn't get to practice lift off the moon, landing on the moon, they had to do it perfectly the
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first time, that is the miracle of apollo 11. >> that's a good point. >> i'm also really curious, you said that being in the firing room changed when you're boss advocated for you to go, and you are actually in their, it changed how people treated you, but i'm curious today change how you felt about yourself and your role and, or was it purely how people -- did you change knowing you were there? >> possibly i did an may have the height of an alligator on the tenacity of a, football dog, i didn't like, oh they were stuck with me, but i felt more confidence in myself that i really was accepted because the doctor was sitting up there on the top around and the chief
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engineer and all these important people and i was good enough to be in the room with them and so that belt a lot of confidence and so after that i was sort of unstoppable and i not only had that tough hide and tenacity but i got to be a little bossy to them. >> carolyn, obviously what we have learned over the years about the effects of micro gravity on the human body has been enormous, i'm curious from your perspective, the research that you did and were involved in, what has been some of the most interesting things the you've learned from this as a physical effect of spaceflight? >> yes, you're right we've done trade a bit of work and they work began back in the fifties on if you may recall that is when they decided when they would send people into space because it would be too hard on the moon, so the research
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started then and some of the authority flights with mammals followed that before our crews went, so each step of the way we talked about what we understood and what our fear was to a space flight for the crew members but by the time we got to the apollo program we were pretty sure that we weren't going to have any big problems that we were not aware of and there are some things they came up and we worked on them, it was really interesting, one of the interesting things that was the electoral problem which was my specialty so i got to go into the meetings and talk about what would happen if we didn't get that under control so that was an anomaly and the thing that i'm most proud of i guess what is the team that we built that the work to take the crews healthy on the ground and get them in space and keep them how the
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entering the space flight and brief and we were able to start collecting and flight data when we started flying and then of course the space shuttle missions with more experience and we learned about various enzymes and hormones and how they worked in the body if. >> it's fascinating stuff it's one of the things that we are talking about human spaceflight we are really going to talk about this especially on the international space station but there is a huge body of accumulated knowledge and a question for all of you and then were going to go to the audience you know in a sense i would be shocked if you all have encountered obstacles along the way a man telling you you're a woman and you can do that and i'm curious did all of you have some incidents like that and i certainly dead and
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i'd like to say that some of the young woman are never going to encounter it but i doubt it so i'm curious how you handled it and think about the girls when you answer to give them some. >> you want me to go first now i know that we have the skin of a crocodile well first of all i can to say the primates new the two monkeys they were where i worked as a college student and i never had a chance to tell you i had something happen to me it was on the apollo one admission and the first time i went and my director had said
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no run just handsome and i had my procedure and i went into around the test in the house for the complex where apollo one was put in my head said and the adviser came down and literally whacked me on the back i mean it hurt and the third we don't have women in here and i thought i have this german and telling me go run this test i have this guy who i think is ex beating me on the back and so i called quickly and i said to my director, i said the name and he said they don't have women in a year. >> he said plug in your headset i want the test results by 4:30, so i use my chain of command and they responded, phone call after phone call but nobody made me get out, i want to work
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and i did my job, later apollo 11, i'm sitting at my console is the tradition for them is this test supervisor, the same man who had wiped me on the back one hand out cigars to the worker, so apollo 11, he came down and gave me a cigar. i thought this is pretty ironic, that was one of the confidence boosters for me but there is even incidents that happen to be everything from i've seen from polls and things following minister well or whatever they like to do behind you and i thought that was like mosquitoes that we have a lot of mosquitoes in florida and if you just bought them and you're done i think it and you may
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kill that but it's mosquitoes. >> how about you? >> i never had someone say you cannot do about this society as a whole message you couldn't do it so why do you need in the region able to tell you that when this society as a whole tell you you can't, but i guess i didn't really appropriately get the message, okay because i came in i worked there, i was doing peoples, crunching numbers for these engineers and about two or three months and i just looked around the room and i said i'm mesmerized these guys, okay, but they are making a lot more money than me and i decided that i was going to become a member of the technical staff, and engineers what they call, them some had physics series, some engineering, but we are all
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functioning and as engineers and i just took stuff home and reverse engineered it and i didn't pay attention to the law. i disobeyed the laws, the laws where that women at that time if they were hourly workers, i was, were not supposed to work for an employer for more than nine hours a day or 54 hours a week, i view to that as really the law you are and going to get paid by an employer, your employer couldn't require you to do this, i pay no attention at all said that, my supervisor would tell me, it's time to go, home it's 6:00 but i recognized that in order to be accepted as a member of the team, in order to be thought of as the equal of these guys i was going to have to work the same way these guys were whether i got paid or not, so i just persisted in
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that and i think because of that i became accepted as a member of the team, that was really key that i was not thought of as different although ones i was in the control center that was a little different experience okay, because i'm sitting there and apollo 11 is sometimes into the chatter as we would here three or, four, five channels at once and i kept hearing a particular channel being mentioned, someone say, hey have you seen what's on channel whatever, i would hear this on and off and i finally thought what's on that channel and i tuned in and who is in me. it was a camera, there were cameras all over the place but there, there is supposed to be in the room and this camera -- and no idea how long it had been on me, i didn't say anything about it, we didn't
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even know the terms sexual harassment and there's two different ways to think about that. one is that it's a little voyeuristic on the part of the dunes watching you, it is sort of harassing and uncomfortable but at the other way of thinking about it is so what, let them all now, let everybody who's not in this room know that there is a woman here, i'm here, get used to it. gerald and how are you? >> i think i was pretty fortunate. that there was the timing that i went to the place which was then the man space center. i was very fortunate that there was so much work to be done that if you were willing to work, and not come clean, and stay late, and go on trips, and come in late, and
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bring in samples, and all of that stuff. if you are willing to do that, they will let you do it. they would've loved to have had ten more like me i guess. from that point, but i was not difficult in that sense. personally, i have people say unpleasant things to me like i'd like to get him promoted because he deserves it and not because -- those kinds of things. as i have mentioned earlier, or should have mentioned, i outlasted those people. i stayed. they retired, they died, they live to work somewhere else. i stayed. >> our son. i'd like to open it up to the audience for questions. over here. >> both nasa and boeing have really strong -- for all students of our grades, i was
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wondering if you guys had that anger is cool and growing up? >> the question is, because we are videotaping this also, the question was the boeing and the usonian focus a lot on some education programs photos, and so the question was whether any kinds of programs like that for you, any of you? >> should i go first? >> sure. >> no there were zero programs when i was in elementary, junior high, high school. however, i had great teachers. my math teacher, second year algebra, was also the basketball coach, saw me doing my homework and class while he is teaching that chapter. he looked at that and i don't -- i never know whether they made a mad what you just thought he'd could this go more work, he
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would go over five chapters, we ran chapter three, he go over and say john your homework is all the problems and chapter eight. i'm thinking i'm getting ahead, doing my homework so i have to do it on the school bus riding to florida but i had all this other homework. but i had to do. teachers like the, ideology teacher who let me and my sister dissected armadillo instead of a cat or dog, we went to dissect the cat or dog, we went out and got a armadillo. they were a lot in the orange, sadly for us when we dissect it had seven perfectly formed to babies, so we were in lab crying because we were murderous is but for me, the teachers and our parents. my dad gave me a chemistry set in for the great and it was the
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best way i had in my life. i grew up the concrete on our patio. my mom and dad didn't fuss. is it how to do that? between wonderful parents and great teachers, we didn't have a special program so when i think probably all three of us might have been lucky in that because we were a generation that had a wonderful quality teaches. was the teachers free that sort of mentored you, bobby, and encouraged you? >> no i don't think i had any mentors, in fact on the whole expectation for women that i recall was that we were expected if we went to college, to either be a teacher, a nurse or an executive secretary. even after the company wrote for featured me in the national advertising around apollo eight, poppy north keeps bringing
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astronauts home. my father's remark after that was that he was really proud of me. the only thing that could make a more proud was if he saw my engagement announcing and a local newspaper. (laughs) i was a self motivator. >> what about you carroll? >> that same group as joe and i had tremendous teachers. a small high school in louisiana back into winter small college. look at those places i have teachers who like what they were teaching and they taught us the same way. i had a very supportive family. and the youngest of six children so each one of them thought they had to tell me what i was going to do in life. they worked out very well. i had a lot of support. more questions. hector. >> at the time what was the
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most challenging free sugar specialties? looking to double technology how it's progressed, did you look back and say boy i wish i had this. whether it was computers or something that things you could be caught i didn't have this. working now we had an iphone or we had something like a computer with a have advanced whatever you were working on regarding today that you are trying to get? >> so the question is, with all the changes in technology from 1969 to the 19 from today. what technology do we have today that would've made your lives and your career is much easier? carolyn what we saw with you. >> obviously with the medical science and research that we are doing, so many of the sensors and computer technology.
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we could've used that a lot in spacecraft as we are getting and making sure it was safe for the group to be there. the other thing is medical testing. today we know how to determine down to the chromosome jean level of things, that back then we are very proud that we got a drop of blood to do a sugar on or something. technology has advanced, it has advanced in the state. you're doing more in the international space station that we ever did 50 years ago. >> the miniature isolation of computers i think it's just an incredible advanced and would've made a lot of difference. on board of the spacecraft, something you may not appreciate, a hadn't on board computer, but that computer did not have as much computing power as you have in an ordinary greeting card you say hi mom hope you have a --
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so they were basically limited computer power on board that now they have tremendous computer power. >> my favorite example of that is your key fog for your car has more computing power dental fortunes face craft -- john how about you? >> what i see is today we have such a rich space some technology. compared to 50 years ago we had to do our on whether protection. we had to create our own coils to national lightning. the complexity of doing groundwork when you're having to build a new devices to measure environmental around you are about position and the propellant line are vibration which we need to understand what the first firing of those engines. now so much is
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observation from space, communication, data transfer, whether navigation and all of that happens to be done with this massive amounts of paper. the computers were tools but having it's in space where when i have to look at all on the ground, that was what took 400,000 people. it was a lot of the stuff i had to be done on the ground. now we don't have to do that. that is why going beyond the moon is such a feasible thing. we have infrastructure. we have a weather satellite around morris. there are things we can do now because space technology. >> one more question from and here and then we'll see if we have a question in the planetarium. i have to take a question from our young astronaut here at the front. >> i want to be an astronaut. can you give me some advice for
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girls who might be astronauts airspace engineers? >> after the show you have to meet a woman named serena who is tourist behind you who might give you some advice. she wants to be an astronaut. for the same advice that you can give it her? she's ten years old. >> i'll take that question. for carroll. having kind recommend that you studied very hard in school. and you participate in sports. whatever your choices. going to be on teams with people. when you get a high school and college, chemical to agree that specialize and something that you really are excited about. whether it is madison or -- do something that really excites you. when you apply to be an astronaut economist junior application it comes to doing your interview
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that you're doing something you want to do. you have to study how to make it great. >> do we have a question from the planetarium? >> yes we do. a she rose. thank you for your service. i noticed in all the language you use so much scientific jargon but i also heard you say bring them home and that is not scientific. it's the concept of bringing our astronauts home, is that how everybody in mission control looked at this? or is that something unique to you and your point of view? >> poppy. >> i don't know whether anyone in any thought about that. certainly that was a major concern, but i worked on a program that was returned to earth. every day every thought
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was bring them home. tell me people that plot at the landing and there is all the celebration. landed on the moon, together because when i smashed out. no matter how successful everything else is, it's not a success unless you get them home. that was always top of mind. let's take one last question from in here over here. do you have some behind the scenes stories or to their friends apollo mission be other than or 13? >> here we get a quick study from each one of you, some kind of behind the scenes to each of you. carolyn? >> apollo 13 was a prosecutor frightening mission for all of us. we're working at the center at the time. we did our jobs.
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one after the other. anything you are asked to do you didn't matter how long it's like because we have to get their guys around the border back home, when ireland remembrance of apollo 13 out quickly tell you about is i was a senate director when it was filmed at the johnson space center the movie and i got to meet the guys that were playing the astronauts in the movie and actually did it all defending for the movie in the case he won 3:35. we saw quite a bit of them. it was nice to see that nice to see how they wanted to get it right. poppy. i saw the launch for apollo 13 because i would not go to work until they were getting close to the moon. i had about two days after a launch where i am not working. i haven't seen a lot before and i really wanted to see one. i
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paid my weights of florida. when i arrived, i wasn't sure if they were going to do a launch or not, because one of the astronauts had been exposed to measles. the mission was being held. it was on hold and nobody knew. are they going to go or not go. finally decided that they were going to go and they substituted for that astronaut. it was delayed. i kept on a plane and i come back home and i think i'm going to get to relax so i'm just i'm not paying that much attention to what's going on i got a phone call from a journalist. the journalist is the one who tells me there's been this explosion. he wants to know,
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are they going to have to fly around the moon or can they turn around and come back? so i just ask him, how far out they were and i was able to answer the question. i hung up the phone and i thought that is weird. he would think that somebody would've called me, the size journalists. i am an unlisted number. i decided to go into work. i put on my clothes and go over there. the people that are at my console, there just really happy to see me because they say they did not know how to reach. i go over to the council that there is a glass top on it and i point. there is a large science sitting there that says my name and my phone number. i guess they were a little distracted. >> joanne. >> my behind the scenes
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taillight is one of the john young and i had launched with labor johnson. the first lady of ireland. she came and she was in a beautification of america tour and she brought her daughter down the kennedy space center, and donna had just come back from his loop around the moon on apollo ten i think it was. he didn't wants to do photography but they gave him this fancy specially modified camera and he had to make pictures with the moon. they didn't land but he went toronto he made these pictures. he was a nervous wreck about having lunch with ladybird on sense or he sat on the end of the table and i was here. ladybirds next to me. i think it was blocked cutting hands, on the other side of the first
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lady, the white house protocol officer had come down and given us a little briefing and he said joanne weir from alabama. the first lady is from alabama so i think you will be able to understand each other and everybody knew what that meant. she's not second across so wealth and drama these two acts astronauts she's not technical. don't say anything technical we started with our lunch and i found that nobody is saying anything we just sitting here should be and over and said we were here and i said yes i do i work in large control and john young just came back from making wonderful photographs of looping around the moon and she said i love photography. i hate
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having a white house photographer i got john young labor johnson talking about photography. i was very proud of myself and i diplomacy. i was also glad the first lady got to have a sincere interaction with an astronaut. which was where you were all eating lunch together. >> you have given us so much to think about in this is so hard because frankly if we could i would keep doing this for another few hours. i'm sure many people have a lot of questions and reflections, based on these three incredibly amazing woman. thank you for sharing your story with us, we hugely appreciate and thank you for joining us tonight. (applause) i think boeing once
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again from making tonight electric possible. a celebration of apollo continues next month with another great panel discussion on october 22nd. i graphology evasion and i will be all about the u.s. hornet and the recovery of the apollo 11 astronauts and spacecraft. you hope to see their. we will have no stargazing tonight on. very sorry the clouds have been rolling in and out. yes, no, it is not. we can to do stargazing. you have clouds. sorry about that. thank you so much for coming here tonight and please exit through the rear doors theater. thank you all. (applause) and i can see the
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