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iran's secret not very well kept is out in public. what the world knows about a secret nuclear facility and how the u.s. and allies are reacting. vice president biden takes stock of georgia's flood zone. an expert says china's endangered pandas should be allowed to die off. what do you think of that? i'm chuck roberts. a new recording purportly from osama bin laden has just hit the internet. he threatens america allies in europe and asked europeans how do you think you'll fare after
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america pulls out referring to afghanistan? we can't confirm it is bin laden. al qaeda is threatening attacks in germany where voters are headed to the polls on sunday. after years of denial, iran is coming clean about a second uranium enrichment plant. iran said the program is for peaceful purposes. tehran made the admission after learning that u.s. and french officials were aware of it and now world leaders threatening a strong response in iran continues to "break the rules" in terms of nuclear development. >> iran is making rules that all nations must follow. denying its own people access to the opportunity they deserve and threatening the stability and security of the region and the world. >> the u.s. has been aware of the second facility for several years. the obama administration recently shared intelligence
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about the plant with both china and russia in an attempt to get their support for sanctions on iran. we're keeping an eye on two unrelated terror plots targeting two u.s. cities. federal agents say the suspects in both were ready to pull the trigger. arrests were made in illinois and texas. investigators say neither case is connected though with the alleged plot uncovered in colorado and new york. first in springfield, illinois, fbi agents arrested 29-year-old michael finton on wednesday. he's also known as student of islam. he's charged with trying to detonate a truck bomb outside a federal building. finton tried to blow it up with a remote control device. he was arrested as he pushed the button. an undercover agent posed a ed
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low level al qaeda operative. he parked the van outside of the federal courthouse in springfield and tried to detonate it with a cell phone. according to the federal affidavit, finton is an ex-con who converted to islam in prison. he talked about wanting to go around and train as a jihadist but people that work with him at a restaurant say they never saw that side of him. >> i'm very shocked to hear this about him because from what i know about him, this isn't in his character at all. this element of what's on the news about him, this is -- i don't really -- i didn't know him to be that kind of guy. this could be a mistake. >> authorities say it's no mistake. they say finton idoled another man. another man will make his first court appearance today charging with using a weapons of mass destruction. agents say he first got on their radar by posting violent comments in an extremist chat
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room. then undercover officers contacted him posing him as an al qaeda sleep eer cell. they gave him what he thought was a bomb and drove it to a tower and trite to detonate it with a cell phone. people that work there are glad it's not real. >> very alarming. yeah. that's my safety. i work on the 21st floor. if anything happens, i'm gone. yeah. it's alarming. >> my stomach flipped. it turned. it was scary. you hear about it but you never think it will happen to you. >> that skyscraper houses wells fargo bank. the 19-year-old originally from jordan. entered the u.s. illegally. people he knew said he seemed like a standup guy. >> he was really good friends with a lot of people. none of us had nothing bad to say about him. this comes as a very surprising
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shock to us. >> he worked. went home. hung out with just friends. i knew that he would call his family in jordan and that's about it. >> this is video of his neighborhood. the area is well known for those dome houses you see there. in another terror plot, the one that reached from colorado to new york, a federal judge in denver has taken the first step to send an afghan immigrant to new york to face charges. najibullah zazi is charged with conspiracy to use weapons of mass destruction. he was in court today with a judge dismissing the lesser charge of lying to federal authorities. in this exclusive surveillance video obtained by cnn, you can see according to the fbi this is zazi appearing to buy large quantities of hydrogen peroxide. here is more on his suspicious
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shopping spree. >> reporter: the first clip, the fbi says on this day he bought a big amount of hydrogen peroxide. you see a man with a beard wearing a baseball cap backwards putting one bottle of six for a cashier. he takes out his wallet and pays for everything. in the second video dated august 28th, you see what appears to be the same man in an aisle of this big store. he has a cart. he bends over. picks up a dozen bottles of hydrogen peroxide and pushes it down the aisle to the cashier. he rented a hotel suite with a stove nearby and again about two weeks ago the authorities found residue above that stove. >> this is one of the most serious threats to emerge since 9/11. vice president joe biden is in georgia today touring flood damage and meeting with families
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left homeless by the deadly storms. the people you see here are staying at the civic center for the time being converted to a shelter for flood victims. >> the truth of the matter is for someone who has lost their home, it is katrina. for someone who is in a situation the people here in the shelter, it is katrina. it's not katrina in its scope by any stretch of the imagination but the impact on their lives on your lives we understand it is katrina. on a beautiful sunny day like today, the worst part of it all is i know from experience the tragedy of what happened to you is sinking in. >> biden's visit comes the day after president obama issued a disaster declaration which gives federal assistance to some of the hardest hit areas and more rain is forecast for this weekend. the weather service issued a flash flood watch from metro atlanta to the north georgia mountains. there are still many unanswered questions surrounding the death of that census worker found hanging from a tree in
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welcome back. jipt panndas might be adorable but one man thinks they should be left to die with dignity. too much money is spend on pandas that can't survive on their own. they're mostly confined to mountains of china where they are threatened by agriculture, logging and the population growth. the millions spent on panda conservation could be used to save other animals. one conservationist calls that reasonable irresponsible saying pandas adapt to where they live. we've been asking what you think about this. should tax dollars be spent on panda conservation? should we let nature take its course? let's go to the phones and say hi to darla. what are your thoughts?
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>> caller: i say absolutely save the panda. i have been obsessed with pandas since i was a little girl. they're such beautiful creatures. what's forgotten is a huge reason the pandas are becoming extinct is because of illegal poaching in china. panda bears adapt to where they are. i say go ahead and save them. i don't think we should let them go just to save something else. if we're going to save something, let's save all of the animals. >> do you think they could survive on their own? >> caller: if illegal poaching would stop. that would make a difference. >> phil is up next in cambridge, ohio. how are you doing? >> caller: i'm fine. >> what do you think? >> caller: don't believe that logging, agriculture and overpopulation is natural causes. >> that's an interesting thought. it's man-made. that's the problem. it's not a natural occurrence. it's not evolution in its natural state. >> caller: exactly.
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man is intruding and that's why they retreated to the mountain tops. >> this is a text from a viewer who writes -- at a time e-mail us -- elizabeth writes -- we've got a facebook post. mark writes -- rehn ae-mailed -- mike writes --
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>> we would love to hear from you. should tax dollars be spent on  panda conservation or should nature take its course? call us at 877-tell-hln or e-mail us at cnn.com/hln or text views to hlntv. standard text rates apply. we have an exciting addition coming next week. "the joy behar show" will be coming. >> you know, unless you're a professional kick boxer or a traveling salesman, there's no real reason for an adult to engage in spanking. a new study says there are parents who are spanking a 1-year-old child. what could a 1 year old probably
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do to deserve being spanked? come home drunk after date? lose the family fortune playing the ponies. start a war under false pretenses? in my opinion there's nothing a child can do that warrants parents spanking them. young children pee, poop, cry and throw food. okay. so does my uncle louie at olive garden. that's another story. he drinks. that's what children do. that's their job. it's the parents job to teach them right from wrong and not bruise physically or psychologically. he didn't say i spank therefore i am. he said i think therefore i am. when your children start carrying on and screaming and yelling and driving you crazy, don't lift your hand to them. lift your mind. think it through. spanking your children won't make them love and respect you. they will fear you.
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i believe that spanking is abuse. hopefully that's not just me. >> don't miss "the joy behar show." you can check it out right now on cnn.com/joy. ring ring ring ring
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a teenager born in jordan is in federal custody in texas charged with planning to build a dallas skyscraper. sean callebs is outside the courthouse with more on charges this teen is facing. >> reporter: we can tell you that hosam maher husein smadi had his first court appearance here in downtown dallas. half of the 20-minute court appearance was taken up with the federal magistrate in the case talking with his defense attorney saying does he understand the charges? english clearly not his first language. some concern at how well he really does grasp the english language. the attorney in this case, richard anderson, says he understands enough to know this is very serious.
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smadi wore a black shirt and black pants. looked nervous. looked down quite a bit. he waived what is called a right to a detention hearing. we'll have a probable cause hearing coming up. federal authorities began monitoring smadi, a jordanian teen right now in the country illegally, about a year ago when they noticed some very violent themed e-mails coming through the internet. they began a discussion with him. now this ten-page arrest warrant details what the genesis of that was. smadi says he was in the united states because he wanted to wage a holy war against america. federal authorities kept talking with him determining how serious he was. it got to the point where the federal undercover officers posing as al qaeda operatives gave him a vehicle that they said was loaded with ammonia
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nitrate, blasting caps and c-4. smadi drove it two blocks from where we are to one of the ic iconic buildings in downtown dallas that does have a wells fargo branch inside of it. he parked it at the base. he used a cell phone that authorities gave him to try to detonate it from a remote area. it turned out he was calling a federal authority and that's when he was taken into custody. chuck? >> i understand he has almost no arrest record? nothing that would give you any indication that anything was amiss. thank you very much. we appreciate it. teenager from jordan is in custody in a federal courthouse. all right. we could find out soon when a former sunday school teacher will stand trial for the murder of her 8-year-old neighbor. right now melissa huckaby is back in court. you recall sandra cantu's body was found in a suitcase at the bottom of a retention pond.
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prosecutors push for a speedy trial. younger witnesses scheduled to testify may have a tough time remembering specific details. huckaby has pleaded not guilty. a u.s. census worker died of asphyxiation. that's the preliminary cause of death according to state police william sparkman had a rope around his neck tied to a tree but his body was touching the ground. the local coroner says the word fed was scrawled across his chest with a felt tip pen. the fbi is investigating whether foul play was involved or whether his death was related to his census work. firefighters have stepped up their effort to contain that wildfire. the hot, dry santa ana winds have been hampering their effort but they have died down and there's a break in the heat and lower humidity so the flames are slowly going down. this fire began tuesday near a mulch pile in the city of moore park. three strangers ripped steel bars off a window to save an
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elderly woman trapped in her burning home. san diego fire officials say the 93-year-old woman was surrounded in thick smoke. men who happened to be nearby and smelled smoke broke into the house and found her upstairs. >> turned around an came back. i didn't think too much about it. jumped out of my van. >> i was just trying to gain entry into the house to see if there was anybody in there. >> firefighters say an electrical short in the air conditioning unit started that fire. supreme court associate justice ruth bader ginsburg is out of the hospital and plans to be back at work this afternoon. she fell ill in her chambers yesterday and spent the night at the hospital as a precaution. she became light-headed and fatigued after receiving treatment for anemia. she underwent surgery in february for pancreatic cancer. u.s. airlines are making big bucks. today's "usa today" reports that airlines raked in $3.8 billion
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a new recording purportedly from osama bin laden has emerged on the internet in which he threatens america's allies. we can't confirm it is bin laden but people are trying to make that determination. al qaeda is threatening attacks in germany. voters head to the polls in germany on sunday. federal agents say suspects in terror plots were ready to pull the trigger. the arrests were made in illinois and texas. counterterrorism authorities say
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the plots were unrelated and neither is connected with the third alleged plot based in colorado, the one we've been talking about for more than a week. in springfield, illinois, michael finton is charged with trying to detonate a truck bomb outside a federal building. the justice department says he tried to blow it up with a remote control. he was arrested as he pushed the button. agents were tracking finton for two years. he was given a van supposedly filled with one ton of explosives. there were no bombs of course in the van. finton didn't know it. agents arrested him yesterday after they say he parked outside of the federal courthouse in springfield and tried to blow it up with a cell phone. the federal affidavit says finton is an ex-con that converted to islam in prison. he wanted to go abroad and train as a jihadist but people that worked with him at a restaurant say they never saw that side of
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him. >> i'm shocked to hear this about him. from what i know about him this isn't in his character at all. this element of what's on the news about him, i don't really -- didn't know him to be that kind of guy. this could be a mistake. >> authorities say it was no mistake. they say finton told agents he idolized john walker lindh and even wrote to him in prison. a man accused of trying to blow up a dallas describe skyscraper appeared in court today he was on their radar posting comments in an extremist chat room and agents contacted him posing as an al qaeda sleeper cell. he drove to the parking garage under the fountain place tower and tried to detonate a bomb with a cell phone. people who work there are glad it wasn't real. >> it's very alarming yeah.
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yeah. that's my safety. i work on the 21st floor. if anything happens, i'm gone. yeah. it's alarming. >> my stomach flipped. it turned. it's scary. you hear about it. you never think it will happen to you. >> that 60-story skyscraper houses wells fargo bank. for more on how federal authorities stopped this alleged terror plot, a retired special agent in charge of the dallas office is on the phone right now from texas. thank you. you were an fbi certified bomb agent technician for many years. how big was this device this theory? >> ink to put it in perspective if you remember the first world trade center bombing back in 1993 and damage and devastation that that caused, i think that would probably be something relative in size and effect if this would have been a real explosive device. >> you made the complaint. was this teenager acting alone
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or was he part of a cell? >> i don't know if could you really tell that. there's no question that i'm sure that the federal law enforcement authorities and joint terrorism task force will go through every part of his life and matrix out all of his activities to see if there were any other associates or other people that were compliant. >> an undercover agent discovered him in an online chat room. did the sting takes weeks or months to develop? how long was it in progress? >> by the sounds of with regard to the complaint itself, three or four-month investigation. the one problem that i can see where just the expenditures of resources for the fbi and for that task force had to be great because once a person has it in his mind that they're going to conduct that type of activity, you want to make sure they don't go somewhere else and achieve it
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themselves without making sure that you have total due diligence and watch over them. >> you were in charge of that office for years. are undercover agents native arab speakers must be an invaluable asset? >> culturally the fbi is trying to and has to make itself look like the rest of the community and i know when i was there and i know still today, they have great care and concern in making sure that they have a great community outreach program with all aspects of life within the north texas area. >> a lot of bomb plots being uncovered at once. should this make us feel relieved or worried? >> i'm not so sure worried as much as it should be an additional wake-up call for the public because law enforcement itself can't counteract all of terrorism. so it takes the entire community and the public if they see something that is unusual or
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extreme or something that gives them a really bad feeling, it just pretty well goes to show that you need to notify law enforcement and contact them and they will give you the proper reaction. >> you guys and your former colleagues deserve all of our thanks. there are more jihadist in our midst than we can imagine. former special agent in charge, thank you for your time. appreciate it. >> fbi in dallas is a great office. >> absolutely. thank you. in another terror plot the one that reached from colorado to new york a federal judge in denver took the first step to send an afghan immigrant, 24 year old, to new york to face charges. that's najibullah zazi charged with conspiracy to use weapons of mass destruction. in this exclusive surveillance, this is videotape obtained by our sister network cnn. the fbi says zazi appears to be buying large quantities of hydrogen peroxide at a beauty
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supply shop in denver. allegedly he was trying to obtain or harvest bomb making ingredients. we spoke with the ceo of the beauty supply store where he apparently shopped. >> at the time it wouldn't be a red flag because who would think that hydrogen peroxide, something you find at the grocery store or at many different retail stores would be a cause for alarm. not in my wildest dreams did i think that we would be sitting here a week later and watching the arrest of this gentleman on television. it's horrifying. >> you saw this man on the videotape. he appears to be the same man that's currently under arrest. what do you think about the fact that this man chose your store to walk into to buy all of this hydrogen peroxide. >> he definitely picked the wrong store to go into. with 48 cameras covering every square inch of that store, we've
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got him on several different angles. >> investigators say it's one of the worst terror threats in the u.s. since neighbor ni9/11. some terrible movies get clumped into so terrible it's good. now the worst films of the decade is out. any guesses? ever worn your clothes in the shower? if you're using other moisturizing body washes, you might as well be. you see, their moisturizer sits on top of skin, almost as if you're wearing it. only new dove deep moisture has nutriummoisture, a breakthrough formula with natural moisturizers...
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box office. all three are featured among the worst films of the decades. virginia cha has the list. >> this is not the a list but more like the b list as in bad movie list. the list comes from rotten tomatoes.com. it compiles all movie reviews. the list is based on how many positive reviews a movie got. they looked at all reviews and the worst movie of the decade -- i just want to say that it received a grand total of zero positive reviews. that's out of more than 100. not one found any redeeming value in this movie. it cost $70 million to make. it only earned $14 million domestically. one reviewer wrote i'm guessing the director is a magician. he took three minutes of dialogue, 3 seconds of plot and
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turned it into a movie that feels five hours long. you can see clips of the 25 worst at cnn.com/showbiz. >> all right. you know, for all of the buzz it's getting, twitter isn't a great business model. it's not making a ton of money but people are still investing in it? >> can you make money off buzz or popularity? twitter is not a publicly traded company. it's hard to get a good gauge on its value. one group of investors is reportedly going big. twitter says it plans to raise $100 million based on a $1 billion valuation of this company. now, much of the money is coming from major investment companies and it is a bit of a gamble as you point out because some experts wonder if the site will be a money maker. twitter said they will release money making plans sometime this year and advertising will not be part of that plan at least not for 2009. also, a quick mention by the
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way. another popular story i want to get to you before we run out of time. did you know that alcohol may protect the brain in an accident? yeah. a study of 38,000 people with traumatic brain injuries found those who had alcohol in their blood at the time of their injury had a lower chance of dying than those who were sober. of course we understand then you probably figured this out, researchers say in many cases alcohol was responsible for the injuries in the first place. possibly explanations for this alcohol may lessen the impact of hormones and it may lower body temperature which would delay swelling and cell death but one surgeon says the alcohol benefit may be severely limited and not to mention there's a separate study that shows it may help with survival but increase the risk of complications. it sounds complicated. to get the facts go to cnn.com/health. that story will sort it out for you. >> no one should be encouraged. >> i don't think that's the take away from this. >> it's not. all great stories.
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appreciate it. who do you turn to if you're a victim of domestic violence and afraid to reach out for help? a new york woman is raising awareness of the problem especially in the islamic community. meet our hero of the week. >> abuse cuts across race, religion, culture. i was born and raised in pakistan. i migrated to new york in 1990. within the muslim community there's a lot of denial about the issue. if we witness injustice, we're required to speak up. i'm helping muslim women end abuse in their lives. we do a lot of community outreach. a lot of our sisters are being abused. this affects all of us.
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we need to talk about it. >> i was afraid to my life. i didn't have a place to go. my family would disown me. my father even said to me that you're lucky you live in america because if you lived back home you would have been dead by now. there are religious issues. >> our duty is to protect ourselves. we tell them how to get into a shelter. what their rights are. >> she really made me understand that i'm not alone. >> we're here whenever you want to come to us. >> i told my friend about you. >> when it's the right time. there have been threats to my safety. but i know that god is protecting me because i'm doing the right thing. >> indeed. learn more about the great work or that of any cnn hero by going to cnn.com/heros and next
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after years of denial, iran is coming clean about a second uranium enrichment plant. it says it has another plant to enrich uranium. iran claims the program is for peaceful purposes. it made the admission after learning u.s. and french officials were aware of it. world leaders threat an strong response if iran continues to break the rules in terms of nuclear development. >> iran is breaking rules that all nations must follow. denying its own people access to the opportunity they deserve and threatening the stability and security of the region and the
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world. >> the u.s. has been aware of this second facility for many years or several years. the obama administration recently shared intelligence about the plant with china and russia in an attempt to get their support for sanctions on iran. police in omaha who found themselves outgunned took the drastic step of buying they are own assault rifles to match the firepower of the criminals on the street. here's todd andrews from ta tka with more. >> reporter: for those opd officers, this gun can make all of the difference in the line of duty. >> it's something you almost can't do without. >> reporter: that something is the ar-15. a powerful light weight semiautomatic rifle. a civilian version of a u.s. military weapon and a standard of police s.w.a.t. teams nationwide. they get special training on it here. >> we require officers to go through a four-day certification course before they are permitted
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to carry the ar-15 rifle. >> reporter: after a day in the classroom, members lead 24 trainees from everything from position tactics -- to 100-i can't remember marksmanship. >> the dynamic dozen change with a long gun. the rifles have a lot more power than a handgun. >> the power officers say is increasingly important to many ever changing threats they face on duty. >> tugly fact is we're outgun. >> we have incidents like the l.a. bank shootout, columbine. >> reporter: so important that these office here otherwise would not have them opted to pay for the rifles themselves. they're not cheap. >> some of these guys out here are spending over $2,000. >> reporter: plus more and more of these men and women are putting up their own money to help increase public safety with some 300 officers now equipped with the ar-15. >> it's important to, at the very least, match up what we're going out to face.
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>> got to settle the equation there. our thanks to todd andrews, ketv in omaha for that. giant pandas may be adorable but a naturalist thinks they should be left to die with dignity. chris says too much money is given to pandas who can't survive on their own. they've gone down an evolutionary cul-de-sac. they are threatened by the chinese population growth best of my recollection logging and agriculture. he says the millions spent on panda conservation could be used to save other animals. one conservationist call that reasoning irresponsible. he says pandas have adapted to where they live. is it unthinkable to let them die out?÷ is conservation worst the money spent on it? what do you think? standard text rates apply. a car tire, a tuna, maybe a
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has osama bin laden release ad new message to the west warning of an attack in europe? what analysts are saying about a new audio recording. and we're learning more about the mysterious death of a census worker in kentucky. his body was found hanging from a tree with fed written on his chest. plus this. >> it's important to at the very least match up what we're going to face. some police officer in nebraska say the bad guys have bigger and better weapons. what the officers are doing to even things up. and yes, they are cute and cuddly. these guys, we're talking about.
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one naturalist says the animals should die out. is it time to pull the plug on the pandas? we want to hear from you on this. good friday to you. i hope you're having a good one so far. we have some breaking news now off the top. a new recording purportedly from osama bin laden has just hit the internet and in it, the al qaeda leader threatens american allies in europe. he asks european, how do you think you will fare after america pull out? we can't could not ferm it is bin laden. al qaeda is threatening attacks in germany where voters are headed to the polls on sunday. we're keeping an eye on two unrelated terror plots targeting two u.s. cities. federal agents say the suspect in both were ready to pull the trigger. arrests were made in illinois. also texas. investigators say neither case is connected with the alleged plot uncovered in colorado and new york. the one we've been telling but in the past week now. first, to springfield, illinois where this man, twain-year-old michael was arrested on
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wednesday by fbi agents. his name means student of islam. he is charged with trying to detonate a truck bomb outside a federal building. the justice department that he tried to blow it one the remote control. he was arrested as he pushed the button. agents have been tracking him for two years but this sting operation started back in february. according to the fbi affidavit, an undercover agent posed as a low level al qaeda operative. then he gave him a van supposedly filled with tons of explosives. the bombs were fake but he didn't know that. agents arrested him after parked the van outside a federal courthouse in springfield and tried to detonate it with a cell phone. and a man accused of trying to blow up a dallas skyscraper made his first court appearance today. we're talking about 9-year-old hosam maher husein smadi. he is charge with attempting to use a weapon of mass destruction. that is the courtroom sketch of him. he said very little during the 20 minute hearing. his attorney said the jordanian
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born teen understood the gravity of the charge against him. the judge set a probable cause hearing for october 5. agents say smady first got on their radar by posting violent comments in an extremist chat room. then undercover officers contacted him posing as an al qaeda sleeper cell. they gave him what he thought was a bomb. then they say he drove it into the parking garage under dallas fountain place tower and tried to detonate it with a cell phone. people who worked there are glad it wasn't real, of course. >> it is very alarming, yeah. that's may safety. i work on the 21st floor. if anything happens, i'm gone. yeah. it is alarming. >> my stomach flipped. it turned. it's scarey. you hear about it but you never think it will happen to you. >> the skyscraper also houses wells fargo bank. to georgia, vice president biden is touring the flood damaged areas today.
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the people you see here staying at the cobb county civic center which was converted to a shelter for flood victims. >> the truth of the matter is, for someone who has lost their home, it is katrina. for someone who is in the situation the people here in this shelter, it is katrina. it is not katrina in its scope by any stretch of the imagination. but the impact on their lives, on your lives, we understand, it is katrina. and on a beautiful sunny day like today, the worst part of it all is, i know from experience, the tragedy, what that to you, is sinking in. >> biden's visit come one day after president obama issued a disaster declaration which gives federal assistance to some of the hardest hit counties. more rain is forecasted in georgia. the national weather service has issued a flood watch. several aid organizations are helping the victims of this flooding to find out how you can pitch in, what you can do, go to
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cnn.com/impact. you can find a list of agencies providing aid to those in need. the mystery surrounding the death of a census worker found hanging from a twree the word fed scrawled across his chest leaves his friends and colleague wanting answers. jamie weiss from kentucky has the story. >> the big question. why would someone hurt mr. sparkman? >> reporter: friends and colleague of 51-year-old bill sparkman say they are shocked by the mysterious death of the well liked scout master and substitute teacher. >> he was so motivated and loved being around the kids so much that he went back to school and got his degree. >> i basically landed in london, kentucky. >> reporter: this is video of him for western university in salt lake city. friend and retired state worker said he knew when sparkman didn't show up for work, something was wrong. >> mr. sparkman was always where he was supposed to be when he
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was supposed to be. >> reporter: he said he was going door to door for the census bureau in rural clay county. acharredo warned him to be carele. >> we did some looking but when he hadn't showed up, we called the state police and they went right to work. >> reporter: sparkman was found hacking in a tree in a remote area of the daniel boone national forest. the word "fed" was scrawl on his chest. the fbi was called. >> we're working with the state police to determine the nature of his death and whether it was related to his employment with the census bureau. >> reporter: the fbi now knows how he died. but isn't sure who is responsible. >> he was found with a rope around his neck. and that rope was looped over a tree. his feet were on the ground. so he did die of asphyxiation. we do know that. how that came about, we're not sure. there are three possibilities, obviously. it could be accidental, it could be suicide or a murder.
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>> reporter: sparkman's friends say it is a tragic end to his life, especially because he recently suffer with nonhodgkin's lymphoma but was in remission and had been very hopeful lately. >> everybody loved him. the kids loved him and the staff loved him as well. >> our thanks to jamey wise for that report. an update from california. firefighters have stepped up their efforts to contain a wildfire in ventura county. the hot dry winds hampering their efforts have died down and a break in the heat and low humidity also helped slow the flames. the fair started tuesday near a mulch pile in the stiff moorpark. it is about 75% surround asked firefighters say they will have it fully contained by tomorrow. supreme court justice ruth bader ginsburg is out of the hospital and plan to be back at work today, this afternoon. the 76-year-old fell ill in her chambers yesterday and spent the night in a d.c. hospital just as a precaution. the court that she became light head asked fatigued after
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receiving treatment for anemia. she underwent surgery for pancreatic cancer back in february. there is no questioning that giant pandas are adored, kind of like big teddy bears. why would someone say their time is up? it may surprise you to hear why one naturalist wants to pull the drug on the species. what do you think? you've wanted to quit smoking so many times, but those days came and went,. but today's a new day. and a few simple steps can make a real difference in your next quit... things like starting with a plan to quit smoking... getting support... and talking to your doctor about how prescription treatments can help you.
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thought about this. should tax dollars be spent on panda conservation or should we let nature take its course? we go to the phone lines now. thanks for calling in. what is your view? >> caller: i want to say hello and thank you for having me, susan. my view is, it's not because of their own cause that they are dying now. it is because of us. we're tearing down their environment and their habitat. so i think that maybe the people that are tearing down their trees and their habitats should put in a percentage for the profit that they are making off them. i do definitely think that we should keep up the support and the profit to help them come back and don't let them die out. >> that's a new perspective. thanks so much. valerie in paradise, california. what do you think? you're on the line. are we spending too much or not enough? >> caller: well, i think preserving a species like the pandas is very important. so i think we have to do
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whatever we have to do. i don't think that china should pull the plug on their pandas and maybe we can make a deal with them like increase tourism to their panda preserves or donate money to the panda research center. >> a good idea. valerie, thank you from california. bri in california. what do you think about this? too much money? >> caller: actually, i don't think it is too much money. my 3-year-old daughter adores pandas and i couldn't imagine telling her, they all became extinct because humans are too irresponsible to fix what they caused. >> it is hard not to agree with your child. looking at this video, it is hard to not have love for these creatures. thank you for calling. in we're getting a lot of e-mails. this text from a viewer saying, save the pandas. they are the only animal with no natural known enemy. and rene emailed, we humans have allowed too many animals on our plan tote die out. we have a responsibility to save all the species that we can.
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and terry says this. we should let nature take its course with pannas like it did with the creatures that walked the earth million of years ago. why continue to waste money on something we have no control over? we want to hear from you. should tax dollars be spent on pandas or should we let them die out? businesses have been shattered left and right. one detroit landmark since the 940s,burg anburgers are keeping it alive. they got a taste for assignment detroit. >> we get into recession.
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you can help when unemployment comes in. business picks up whenever the social security checks come in. business picks up. >> 95 cents for a cheese burger. >> we do it on volume. that's a whole system. >> why do you set the prices this way? >> number one, i want everybody to be able to eat, anyone that wants to eat. if you have 85 cents and you've got 35 cents for a cup of coffee, you can still get something to eat. i would rather do a lot of business and not make as much money, do a little business and make a lot of money. i've had customers over there, 80 something years old and been coming there for 50 years. in detroit, i tell you the truth. they think it is their home. >> i've been here longer than he's been here. >> we get used to seeing them every morning.
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it is like clock work. guaranteed, someone will be here by 8:00. if they're not here at 8:00, pushing 10:00, you're looking for them. hey, he didn't show up. >> the other part is the workers. we treat them like family. everyone of them. if one of them gets in a financial situation, we all try to help them out. >> talk about an old school diner. poppy seem like such a great guy and he treats his employees so well. >> he does. this is earl owens. he is 79 years old. he says he'll work as long as he can. his son and grandson also work at the diner. you see them there. and earl gets up at 3:30 every day to go to work. what this is representative of in detroit is generation after generation, folks working at the same place just like in the auto industry. a very interesting company that is selling 85 cent hamburgers so of course it will beat the recession. one of the stories of our special assignment detroit.
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you can find more at cnnmoney.com/detroit. a neat little story. a little slice of what's going to in detroit. >> maybe he has the secret to a successful business. >> exactly. sure. police in omaha take drastic measures to combat violent criminals on the streets. see why heavier fire power is leaving some officiary little lighter in the wallet. we'll explain. 90s slacker hip-hop. ♪ singer: buckle up, everybody 'cause pu're taking a ride ♪ ♪ that can strain your relationships and hurt your pride ♪ ♪t's the credit roller aster ♪ ♪ and as you can see it kinda bites! ♪ ♪ so sing the lyrics with me: ♪ when your debt goes up your score goes down ♪ ♪ when you pay a little off it goes the other way 'round ♪ ♪ it's just the same for everybody, every boy and girl ♪ ♪ the credit roller coaster makes you wanna hurl ♪ ♪ so throw your hands in the air, and wave 'em around ♪ ♪ like a wanna-be frat boy trying to get down ♪ ♪ then bring 'em right back to where your laptop's at... ♪ ♪ log on to free credit report dot com - stat! ♪ vo: free credit score and report with enrollment in triple advantage.
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a family member is casting doubt on mac kenny phillips' story of incest. she is saying she had a ten-year sexual relationship with her father john phillips. she appeared on oprah this week and charge her deceased father with raping her when she was 19. she said the sex became consensual and stretched over a
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decade. now her half sister has issued a statement saying mackenzie told her that story years ago, but later told her it wasn't true. she says this. and we're quoting here. to nebraska where some omaha cops are buying their own guns. they are the emergency response
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units and for s.w.a.t. teams nationwide. now more rank and file officer are buying the high power weapon to keep one the bad guys. >> tugly fact is that we're outgunned. >> we have incidents like l.a. bank shootout, columbine. some of these guys and gals out here are spending over $2,000. >> not only are the guns expensive, the ammunition costs a lot too. $450 for 1,000 rounds. the ar-15 is a civilized version of a military gun, civilian, that is. five coffee shop workers are accused of serving up some skin. police in everett, washington, north of seattle say the women were charged, customers charging up to $80 to take off their clothes while fixing orders. officer spent two months in an undercover investigation. >> for extra money, these women would expose their entire body. they would take forecast they were wearing a bikini, they would eat take it off or at
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least lower it. there were some allegation, complaints from our citizens that they were performing whip cream shows between two of the women. >> the shop owner will local media that employees signed a policy prohibiting the alleged behavior. this may be a first. a california man is accused of stalking his girlfriend by air. by airplane. police say several people called to complain about a low flying plane over their concord neighborhood in the past few weeks. once the plane dropped leaflets referencing a person and included racial slurs. when the plane was over the neighbor wednesday night, neighbors called the police. >> psycho boyfriend is about it. >> it is a little loud. just sounded like a small engine on an airplane that was buzzing the neighborhood a little bit. >> police found the pilot after he had landed the plane. he was arrested on suspicion of stalking and violating a restraining order. wildlife official are pretty
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a new recording purportly from osama bin laden has hit the internet. in it he threatens american allies in europe. he asks europeans, how do you think you will fare after america pulls out? referring to afghanistan there. and we can't confirm that it is in fact bin laden. al qaeda is threatening attacks in germany where voters are headed to the polls on sunday. iran's president is responding to president obama's criticism of that country's newest nuclear enrichment facility. mahmoud ahmadinejad says the facility won't be operational for 18 months and does not violate the rule of the u.n. nuclear agency. he says president obama will regret his comments.
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earlier today, president obama called for the united nations to investigate the new plant and the u.s. and britain and france threatened with new sanctions. a u.s. census worker whose body was found near a kentucky cemetery died of asphyxiation. that is the preliminary cause of death. according to state police, william sparkman had a rope tied around his neck that was tied to a tree but his body was touching the ground. the local coroner said the word "fed" was written across his chest with a felt tip pen. the fbi is investigating whether foul play was involved and whether his death was related to his census work or not. in georgia, vice president joe biden is touring the flood damaged areas today and meeting with families left homeless by the storms. the people you see here around him are staying at the cobb familiar civic center. >> the truth of the matter is, for someone who has lost their home, it is katrina. for someone in the situation the
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people here in this shelter, it is katrina. it is not katrina in its scope by any stretch of the imagination. but the impact on their lives, on your lives, we understand, it is katrina. and on a beautiful sunny day like today, the worst part of it all is, i know from experience, the tragedy, what happened to you, is sinking in. >> his visit come one day after president obama gave a declaration which gives assistance to some of the hardest hit families. more rain is expected this weekend in atlanta from metro atlanta to the north georgia mountains. if you are wondering what do you know to help out, several aid organizations are helping. go to cnn.com/impact. you can find a list of agencies providing aid to those in need. a family member is casting doubt on mackenzie phillips' tale of incest. she has written a book alleging that she had a ten-year sexual
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relationship with her own father, singer john phillips. she appeared on oprah's show this week and charged her dad with raping her when she was 19. she said the second became consensual and stretched over a decade. well, now her half sister, bijou phillips has issued a statement saying mackenzie told her the story years ago but later will her it wasn't true. she said this.
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mac kenny phillips told oprah despite the fire sform erupted since her interview, she said she doesn't regret writing her memoir, "high on arrival." a clearwater woman is lucky to be alive after escaping the jaws of an eight-foot long alligator. it is the first time someone has been attacked by a gator in that county in more than three years. the victim's father described what happened to his daughter. >> walking with one of our dogs near the water's edge when she noticed a squirrel in the water, she turned to leave. and it was up a small bank. she slipped and fell. the dog she was with ran up the bank. she came out of the water and grab her by the left calf. and tried to pull her back into the lake. >> it was a close call. the woman suffered bites on her calf and hand shelf gouged the
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alligator's eye with her thumb until it let go. she managed to drive herself to the hospital. she said she appeal the okay but is still a bit sore. wildlife authorities caught the gator three days later. we're keeping an eye today on two unrelated terror plots targeting two u.s. cities. the suspects in both were ready to pull the trigger. arrests were made in illinois and also in texas. investigators say neither case is connected with an alleged plot uncovered. first we want to tell but the one in springfield, illinois where fbi agents arrested this man. 29-year-old michael finton on wednesday. his name means student of islam. he is charge with trying to detonate a truck bomb outside a federal building. the justice department said he trade to blow it up with a remote control. he was arrested as he pushed the button. agents have been tracking him for two years but this sting operation started back in february. according to the fbi affidavit, an undercover agent posed as a
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low level al qaeda operative. then he apparently gave finton a van supposedly filled with one-ton explosives. the bombs were fake but he didn't know that. agents arrested him after he parked the van outside the federal courthouse in springfield and tried to detonate it with a cell phone. according to a federal affidavit, he is an ex-con who converted to islam in prison. he talked about wanting to go abroad to train as a jihadist. the people who work with him in a restaurant said they never saw that side of him. >> i'm very shocked to hear this about him. from what i know about him, this isn't in his character at all. this element of what's on the news about him, this is, i don't really, didn't know him to be that kind of guy. and this could be a mistake. >> authorities say it is no miss taefl they say he told agents he idolized john walker lind, an american captured for fighting with the taliban.
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also a man accused of trying to blow up a dallas skyscraper is in court today. he will remain behind bars. a probable cause hearing has been set for october 5th. he is charged with attempting to use a weapon of mass destruction. agents say smadi first got on their radar with violent comments in a chat room. then they contact him posing as a sleeper cell themselves gave him what he thought was a bomb. then they say he drove it into the parking garage under dallas's fountain place tower. tried to detonate it with a cell phone. people who work there are relieved, of course. they say they're glad it wasn't real. >> it's really alarming. yeah. oh, yeah. i work on the 21st floor. so if anything happens, i'm gone. it is alarming. >> my stomach flipped. it turned. it is scarey. it's like you hear about it but you never think it will happen to you.
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>> the skyscraper also houses wells fargo bank. the 19-year-old is originally from jordan. this is what we know about him. he entered the u.s. illegally and was living in texas. people he knew there said he seemed like a stand-up guy. >> he was really good friends with a lot of people. and none of us have nothing bad to say about him. this comes as a very surprising shock to us. >> he worked, went home, hung out with just friends and knew he would call his family in jordan and that's about it. >> this is video of smadi's neighborhood. the areas well known for those dome homes you see there. we're switching gears. we're talking about giant pandas. they're adorable but a london naturalist thinks they should be left to die with dignity. chris packham said they can't survive on their own. he puts it, they've gone down an evolutionary cul-de-sac. they are mostly confined to the
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mountains. he said the million spent on panda conservation could be used to save other animals. but one conservationist call that reasoning irresponsible. he said pandas have adapted to where they live at the time. we want to know, what do you think about this? should tax dollars be spent on panda conservation? or should we let them die out naturally? we want your view. you can e-mail us. cnn.com/hln and you can tex. plus your comments and name. standard text rates apply. we all know high school kids can certainly be mean. at a new jersey high school, they have made it an annual ve tradition. how freshman girls get hassled.m chest came back- i knew i had to see my doctor. he told me i had choices in controller medicines. we chose symbicort. symbicort starts to improve my lung function within 15 minutes. that's important to me because i know the two medicines in symbicort are beginning to treat my symptoms and helping me take control of my asthma.
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firefighters have stepped up their efforts to contain a while fire in ventura county, california. the flame have died down. some good news here. a break in the heat and low humidity helped slow down those flame. the fire started tuesday near a mulch pile in the city of moorpark. it is about 75% surrounded. firefighters say they will have it fully contained by tomorrow. an amazing story here. three strangers rip steel bars off a window to save an elderly woman trapped in her burning home. san diego fire officials say the 93-year-old woman was surrounded in thick smoke. men who happened to be nearby and smelled the smoke broke into the home and found her upstairs. >> i turned around, came back. i didn't think too much about it. jumped out of my van. >> he was trying to gain entry into the house to see if there was anybody in there. >> they made the right move. they did save that woman.
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firefighters say an electrical short in the electrical unit started that fire. if there is a trial, jaycee dugard will testify against the couple accused of kidnapping her when she was 11 and holding her captive for 18 years. she will testify. yesterday, her attorney spoke about her captivity. >> she has had children in that environment. so it is really, it is what she has known. really in essence for her life. so that is one competing emotion. on the other side, there is no question that she knows that terrible and wrong things were done to her. >> police say dugard was held in the backyard of phillip garrido's home. he raped her and kept her there. he and his wife have pleaded not guilty. we could find out soon when a federal sun school teacher will stand trial for the murder of her 8-year-old murder. melissa huckaby.
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you may remember the girl's body was found stuck in a suitcase at the bottom of a pond. investigators are seeking the death penalty in this case. they're pushing for a speedy trial. they say younger witnesses scheduled to testify may have a tough time remembering specific details in the case. huckaby has pleaded not guilty. the first day of class can be pretty tough for freshman girl at one new jersey high school. you could say. that senior girl in essex county hazed them. that includes shoving and harassing. some girl are made to wear embarrassing badges and their name are put on a slut list. take a listen. >> it is, it almost seems like the senior girl get together and try to think of the most abhorrent things they can say about anybody. and then they attach a freshman name to it. >> school officials say most students laugh off that annual tradition. this is pretty shocking.
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drinking water at many u.s. schools contains levels of lead and pesticides and an investigation found kids in all 50 states have been exposed to it in the last ten years. many schools aren't fixing the old pipes because providing bottled water is cheaper. the number investigations has spiked in the last decade because of strirkt standards. love is in the air. literally. maybe one sided though. a woman accuse her ex-boyfriend of going to new heights to stalk her. we'll have this unbelievable story. ♪ well i was shopping for a new car, ♪
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dozens of people have been arrested at the g-20 summit going on in pittsburgh. riot police put out rubber bullets in what became this. a riot. demonstrators were breaking windows and crashing dumpsters into barricades. >> head down. sideways.
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>> cnn's brian todd was caught in pepper spray. he is trying to get it out of his eyes. he reports it was effective. he said most of the crowds scattered after that and brian is doing okay. g-20 leaders gathered in pittsburgh. they're focused on fostering a healthy recovery. that is point. it is their third summit in less than a year. european here's are pushing for limits on bankers' bonuses and the group has agreed to give asian and latin american member more influence. much of this morning's business was upstaged by the revelation that iran has been operating a secret nuclear facility. the u.s., france and britain are threatening new sanctions as well. i'm jane velez-mitchell and here's my issue. what really went down between mackenzie phillips and her father? she claims she had incest use
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sex with her dad. her stepmom claims, you lie. mackenzie's dad can't fight back. he's been dead for eight years. i have no idea if these allegations are true. i do question her timing. she says she is sober but it has been just over a year since her arrest on drug charges. as a recovering alcoholic with 14 years, continuing first year of sobriety is not the time to jump into the spotlight. so why now? these allegations impact mackenzie and her entire family. she should have talked this out in family group therapy before she spilled it on oprah. i'm jane velez-mitchell. that's my issue. >> don't miss issues tonight. she talks about the claim of incest. watch issues with jane velez-mitchell at 7:00 eastern. don't miss it. this may be a first. a california woman accuses her ex-boyfriend of stalking her. how he allegedly chose to do it is incredibly unbelievable.
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from afit affiliate in san francisco has the story. >> reporter: isn't it how it always works? love is in the air when thing are good. when things fall pair, oh, boy, things turn south pretty quickly. in thisnorth. above. in the sky. police say this pilot harassed his ex-girlfriend by flying his airplane low. over her house. not only bothered the ex but also her neighbors. >> it's a little odd, but, you know, just sounded like a small engine on an airplane that was buzzing the neighborhood a bit. >> reporter: despite the complaints to police that didn't stop tom huey from flying his plane over this concord neighborhood. investigators say he dropped flyers into the ex-girlfriend's neighborhood calling her names. >> psycho boyfriend's about it. >> reporter: the police served huey with a restraining order wednesday telling him to stay away from his ex. that apparently still didn't
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stop him. a couple hours later neighbors saw the same plane again flying above their neighborhood. they even took toe toes of it. see how low it's flying. they have video of it, too. after a number of complaints police took action. police came here to buchanan field airport and arrested huey. investigators believe huey has been harassing his ex-girlfriend using the same method for a year now. the victim's neighbors have this advice. >> get therapy. >> get on with your life. she's not interested. do something else. >> good advice. thanks to dave lynn from affiliate kron for that story. a woman in indonesia has given birth to a baby boy most folks would have a hard time picking up. this 19 pound bundle of joy. the giant baby was delivered by c-section. he didn't set the world record. it's held by a 23 pound baby
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born in 1879. a hollywood couple free on bail today. what sent actor randy quaid and his wife to a texas jail.
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vice president biden takes stock of georgia's flood zone. why he says it's like hurricane katrina again. dramatic twist in the disappearance of haleigh cummings. this tape catches a woman dropping off a letter at a florida newspaper with a possible tip that could be volatile. here's something we're not used to hearing. an expert says china's endangered pandas should be able to die off. happy friday one and all. a wildfire burning in ventura county, california, 75% contained due do to a stepped up effort by firefighters who were added to the scene and who were aided by a break.
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heat and low humidity. that is, it's the humidity that is lower and the heat is lower. the hot and dry wins fanning the flames died off as well. this fire began tuesday near a mulch pile in moore park. vice president biden touring flood damage in georgia today and meeting with families left homeless by the storms. the people you see here are staying at the cobb county civic center, which has been converted into a shelter for flood victims. >> the truth of the matter is for someone who's lost their home, it is katrina. for someone who is in a situation people here in this shelter, it is katrina. it is not katrina in the scope in any imagination, but the impact an their lives, your lives, it is katrina. on a beautiful sunny day like today the worst part of it is all is i know from experience the tragedy what happened to you is sinking in. >> biden's one-day visit comes after the president issued a
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disaster declaration, assistance to the hardest hit areas. more rain forecast this weekend. national weather issued a flash flood watch from metro atlanta to the tennessee and north carolina borders. aid organizations are helping flood victims. go to cnn.com/impact to help. you'll get a list of the agencies providing urgent aid. we could find out soon when a former sunday school teacher will stand trial for the murder of her 8-year-old murder. melissa huckaby returns to court today. she's charged with kidnapping, raping and killing sandra cantu. the girl's body was found stuffed in a suitcase at the bottom of a retention pond. prosecutors are seeking the death penalty and pushing for a speedy trial. younger witnesses scheduled to testify may have a tough time remembering specifics of this case. pleaded not guilty. if there is trial jaycee
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dugard will testify against the couple accused of kidnapping her and holding her captive fur 18 years. dugard's attorney talked about her years in captivity. >> she's had children in that environment. so it's really -- it's what she has known really in essence for her life. so that's one competing emotion. on the other side, there's no question that she knows that terrible and wrong things were done to her. >> dugard was held ba the backyard of phillip garrido's home and he raped her and fathered her two children. investigators are looking for a woman who may know something about the february disappearance of haleigh cummings. dropped off a letter at a st. augustine newspaper that had a tip about the missing girl. wtlv has the latest. >> reporter: it took a few seconds for this blond woman in blue scrubs to drop off a letter with purported information about
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what happened to haleigh cummings. >> my name and the paper's name and address was on the envelope, sealed. >> reporter: richard prior is the associate editor for "the st. augustine record." >> it could go a long way toward solving. >> reporter: he made a copy of the letter which a woman handed to the newspaper receptionist wednesday afternoon and gave the original to the putnam county sheriff's office. >> they're looking at the letter and envelope. >> reporter: prior can't say what the letter details but says it's one paragraph long, typed and has three letters at the bottom that resemble initials. >> if the information is accurate, it's going to be pretty volatile. >> reporter: the putnam county sheriff's office is not commenting on the letter but did release the surveillance video to us so we could ask the public to take a closer look to see if they recognize the woman wearing sunglasses. richard prior, meanwhile, has his own message for her. >> the person needs to contact
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the putnam county sheriff's office so they can determine whether or not there's any ville lidty to the information. >> thanks to our affiliate for the latest on the haleigh cummings disappearance. the sheriff is not releasing the contents. investigators say if the information is true it could be helpful in solving this case. after years of denial, iran is coming clean about a second uranium enrichment plant. tehran says it has another facility to enrich uranium. iran claims its uranium enrichment program is for peaceful purposes. made the admission after learning u.s. and french officials are aware of it. world leaders are threatening a strong response if iran continues to break the rules in terms of mi s of nuclear develo >> iran is breaking all rules all nations must follow. denying its own people access to the opportunity they deserve. and threatening the stability
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and security of the region and the world. >> u.s. apparently has been aware of the second facility for several years. the obama administration recently shared the intelligence with china and russia in an attempt to get their support for sanctions on iran. five more u.s. service members have been killed in afghanistan in separate incidents. three killed according to the military by a road side bomb. another shot and the other was killed on patrol. all this happened yesterday in the southern part of the country where american and nato forces stepped up operations against the taliban. new recording from osama bin laden hit the internet today. in it the al qaeda leader threatens american allies in europe. how do you think you'll fair after america pulls out, referring to afghanistan? the validity of the tape has not been confirmed of bin laden. al qaeda threatening attacks in germany where voters are headed to the polls sunday. a terror plot, the one that
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reached from colorado to new york. an afghan immigrant, 24-year-old, en route to new york. nauj ja bull la zazi, he was in a courtroom in colorado earlier where the judge dismissed the lesser. in this surveillance video obtained by cnn, the fbi says zazi appears to be buying large quantities of hydrogen peroxide as a beauty supply shop in denver, intended to be used as a bomb-making ingredient. investigators say this is one of the most serious terror threats to the country since 9/11. authorities make dhiling allegations, not one but two suspectsed terrorists sets up what they thought were bomb. who are these men? what authorities say they were targeting. dramatic details of how they were caught in the act. al ♪ the place that inspires her to go faster... ♪
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two alleged terror plots targeting two u.s. cities. federal agents say suspects in
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both were ready to pull the trigger. the arrests in illinois and texas. unrelated to each other. springfield, illinois, the capital, michael finton arrested wednesday. finton, talid islam, which means student of islam, charged with trying to ignite a truck outside a builds. he was arrested as he pushed the button. agents have been tracking him two years. the sting operation started in february. according to the fbi affidavit, an undercover agent posed as a low-level al qaeda operative, gave finton a van filled with one ton of explosives. bombs were fake. finton didn't know that. agents arrested him after he parked the van outside the federal courthouse in springfield and tried to detonate it with a cell phone. according to a federal affidavit, finton is an ex-con who converted to islam in prison. he called himself talid islam and wanted to go abroad to train as a jihadist.
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people who worked with him at a restaurant say they never saw that side of him. >> i'm shocked to hear this about him. from what i know about him, this isn't in his character as all. this element of what's on the news about him, this is -- i didn't know him to be that kind of guy. should be could be a mistake. >> authorities ait's no mistake. they say finton told the agency he idolized john walker lynn, an american captured for fighting with the taliban. man accused of trying to blow up a dallas sky scaper made a court appearance. hosam smadi will remain in jail. she in the country illegally. a probable cause hearing has been set for october 5th. he is charged with attempting to use a weapon of mass destruction. agents say he got on their radar by posting violent comments in an extremist chat room. undercover officers contacted him posing as an al qaeda sleeper cell. they gave smadi what he thought was the bomb and drove it into
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the parking garage under the fountain place tower in dallas and tried to detonate it with a cell phone. people who work there are glad it's not real. >> it's very alarming. oh, yeah. that's my safety. i work on the 21st floor. if anything happens then i'm gone. yeah, it is alarming. >> my stomach flipped. it turned. it's scary. it's like you hear about it but never think it's going to happen to you. >> the skyscraper houses wells fargo bank. the 19-year-old's originally from jordan. authorities say he entered the u.s. illegally, living north of dallas in italy, texas. people he knew there said he seemed like a standup guy. >> he was really good friends with a lot of people. none of us had nothing bad to say about him. this coming as a very surprising shock to us. >> he worked, went home, hung out with just friends and knew he would call his family in jordan. about it. >> they knew him as sam. here's video of his
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a family member is casting doubt on mckenzie phillip's sorted tale of invest. the former sitcom star wrote a book alleging she had a ten year sexual relationship with her father, singer john phillips. on the oprah winfrey show she charged her deseized dad with raping her when she was 18. her half sister has issued a statement says she's heard this story before but says mackenzie recanted. she says, we quote, when i was 13 mackenzie told me she had a consensual sexual relationship with our father. this news was confusing and scary. i lived alone with my father since i was 3. i didn't know what to believe
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it. didn't help shortly thereafter mckenzie told us it didn't happen. mckenzie's history with our father is hers but also clouded with years of drug abuse. i understand mackenzie's need to come clean with a history she feels will help others. it's devastating to have the world watch when we try to mend broken fences when the man in question isn't hire to defend himself. jane talks with the widow of mackenzie's claims of incent. don't miss "issues" on hln. drinking water at many u.s. schools contains toxic levels of lead and pesticides. an associated press investigation found kids in all 50 states have been exposed to this water for at least ten years. many schools aren't fixing old pipes because providing bottled water is cheaper. the number of safety violations has spiked in last decade because of stricter standards. three strangers rip steel
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bars off a window to save an elderly woman trapped in her burning home. the 93-year-old woman was surrounded in thick smoke. men who happened to be nearby smelled the smoke, broke into the house and found her upstairs. >> turned around, came back. i didn't think too much about it. jumped out of my van. >> i was just trying to gain entry into the house to see if there was anybody in there. >> firefighters say an electrical short in the air-conditioning unit started the fire. five coffee shop workers accused of serving up skin. police in everett, washington, north of seattle say the woman were charging customers up to 80 bucks to take off their clothes while fixing orders. officers spent two months in an undercover probe. >> extra money, these woman would expose their entire body. they would take, if they were wearing a bikini they would either take it off or at least
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lower it. there were allegations, kplantss from citizens that they were performing whip cream shows between two of the women. >> the shopper owner told local media employees sign a policy prohibiting this behavior. many people get sick to their stomach when it comes to taxes. chicago cabbies are asking for a 22% hike in fares and $50 fee for passengers who throw up in their rides. drivers say it costs them money and two hours of time to get their cars cleaned. chicago mayor says there's no way this will happen in a bad economy. though fewer people are flying, u.s. airlines are making big bucks. "usa today" reports u.s. airlines collected $3.8 billion from extra fees in the first six months of the year. those include the fees were checked bags, canceling or rebooking flights, carrying pets, assigning seat. helps the worst downturn in travel since the 9/11 say tacks.
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hln money expert warns card issuerers are still finding ways to get around the new reforms. here's clark. >> i've had so many calls from people who are just absolutely fit to be tied by the notices they're gets from their credit card companies. credit card companies are racing new legislation that takes full effect in february of next year that restricts when a credit card company can raise interest rates an you and when they can change terms and conditions on you as well. they have to give you longer notices. that's already happened. what kind of things are credit card companies doing in advance? well, number one, they're switching how your interest rate is calculated on your credit card, moving from fixed rate offerings to variable rates. why is that significant to you? here's the deal. the rate that the variables work off of is something known as a prime rate. prime rate is extra low right now. when the prime rate rises your
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interest rate will rise on your credit card as well. how do you fight back against the changing interest rate? pay off your balances then they can't charge you. i am clark howard. for more ways for you to pack a punch in your wallet, go to cnn.com/clarkhoward. the weekend is here almost. get great advice from clark saturday and sunday at noon and 4:00 eastern. clark howard on hln will help you save more, spend less and avoid getting ripped off. pictures from capitol hill live from the floor of the senate. ceremony is about to begin. paul kirk is there ready to be sworn in as the newest u.s. senator. the ju junior senator from massachusetts. picked yesterday as an interim replacement of ted kennedy who died a month ago f brain cancer. republicans lost an attempt to delay this swearing in. argued the governor exceeded his authority by appointing kirk.
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kirk will hold the office until a special election in january is conducted. pandas may be adorable. a londening naturalist says too much money is spent on trying to save pandas who can't survive on their own. pandas have gone down an evolutionary cul-de-sac, confined to the mountains of china where they're threatened by logging, agriculture. millions spent on panda conservation could be used to save other animals. one conservationist calls that reasoning irresponsible sayi ii pandas have adapted to where they live. should tax dollars be spent on panda conservation? are we tampering with nature? should we let them just die out? call us now. toll free. 877-835-5456. e-mail us, cnn.com/hln. text views and your comment and name to hln tv. standard text rates apply. we're going to hear your
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two alleged terror plots target two u.s. cities and federal agents say the smts in both were ready to pull the trigger. arrests made in illinois and texas. counterterrorism authorities say the plots were unrelated and neither case is connected to a third alleged plot based in colorado we've been talking about all week. ted rowlands in springfield, illinois, more on the suspect in the case, 21-year-old michael finton, accused of trying to detonate a truck bomb outside a federal building. >> reporter: this is an incredible scenario laid out by federal authorities. wednesday morning here in downtown springfield. just before noon. investigators say the
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29-year-old michael finton drove a van right here on the streets of springfield and stopped it here. in that fan, finton believed he had enough explosives to take out a city block. got out of the van, locked it and got into his partner's car with the intent of detonating this van of explosives from a spot a couple streets away. take a look how close this parking spot is to the federal courthouse here in springfield. authorities say finton wanted to blow this building up, even though he knew that by doing so he would be killing innocent people inside. michael finton know while trying to detonate the truck bomb with a cell phone a few blocks away was that the explosives were fake and his partner was really an undercover fbi agent. >> the joint terrorism task force and fbi have been monitoring finton for almost two years, and as a result the public was never at risk. >> reporter: according to a
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federal affidavit finton, an ex-con, who converted to islam in prison, desperately wanted to fight as a jihadist. idolizing john walker lynn, the american caught fighting for the taliban after 9/11. after an informant tipped off authorities, finton was introduced to an fbi undercover agent posing as a low-level member of al qaeda. >> appeared finton was on the verge of taking some kind of action, so it was decided that the fbi and the joint terrorism task force and the other laurmts law enforcement agencies involved in the los angeles provipr the opportunity. >> finton who called himself student of islam worked as a part-time cook. co-workers described him as a regular guy with a good sense of himer. >> i'm very shocked to hear this about him because from what i know about him, this isn't in
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his character at all. this element of what's on the news about him, this is, i don't really know him to be that kind of guy. this could be a mistake. >> reporter: authorities say there's no mistake and finton, if given the charngs could have been extremely dangerous. finton did make a brief court appearance in the building he tried to blow up yesterday. in that appearance he waived his right to a detention building. across the street from the courthouse is the offices of congressman aaron schock. according to the fbi agent that was posing as finton's partner, finton told him he was hoping the congressman would be in his office at the time of the explosion. basically intent on blowing up the federal building and also hoping that he could also hurt the congressman as well. one thing we should note is that at this point there's no evidence that finton had any real ties to any organized terrorist group around the world. ted rowlands, cnn, springfield, illinois. well, a man accused of
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trying to blow up a dallas skyscraper made a court appearance today. hosam smadi waived his right to an immigration hearing and will stay in jail. probable cause hearing set for october 5th. smadi got on radar posting comments in an extremist chat room. undercover agents contacted him posing as a sleeper cell. they gave smauzsy what he thought was a bomb and drove it to the tower, 60 stories high and tried to detonate it with a cell phone. people who work there are awfully glad it isn't real. >> it's very alarming. yeah. i work on the 21st floor. if anything happens then i'm gone. yeah. it is alarming. >> my stomach flipped. it turned. it was scary. it's like you hear about it but you never think it's going to happen to you. >> the skyscraper houses among other businesses wells fargo
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bank. after years of denial iran is coming clean about a second uranium enrichment plant. it has another facility to enrich uranium, a process used to make nuclear weapons. iran claims its uranium enrichment program is for peaceful purposes. u.s. and french officials were aware of it. world leaders are threatening a strong response if iran continues to, in their words, break the rules in terms of its nuclear development. >> iran is breaking rules that all nations must follow. endangering the global nonproliferation regime, denying its own people access to the opportunity they deserve and threatening the stability and security of the region and the world. >> the u.s. apparently has been aware of the second facility for several years. obama administration recently shared intelligence about the plant with china and russia in an attempt to get their support for sanctions on iran. vice president biden is touring flood damage in georgia
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today meeting with families left homeless by the deadly storms. people here are staying at the cobb county civic center, converted into a shelter. the president issued a disaster declaration which gives federal assistant for the hardest hit communities. the national weather service is out with a flash flood watch from metro atlanta to the north georgia mountens, tennessee and north carolina. aide groups are helping flood victims. go to cnn.com/impact. find a whole list of agencies providing aid. if there's a trial, jaycee dugard will testify against the couple accused of kidnapping her when she was 11 and holding her captive 18 years. dugard's attorney talked about her years in captivity. >> she's had children in that environment. so it's really what she has known, really in essence for her life. so that's one competing emotion.
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on the other side there's no question that she knows terrible and wrong things were done to her. >> dugard was held in the backyard of phillip garrido's home. garrido and his wife, nancy, pleaded not guilty. parent,s, help make your teens safer drivers. what simple things you can do to rev up their driving skills. ring ring ring ring. progresso. your chicken tuscany says it has fiber in it. yep. four tasty new soups with 28% of your daily fiber. but i like this chicken tuscany., i like it too. but it has fiber in it. that's right. fiber? yeah. but i like it. (announcer) progresso. you gotta taste this soup.
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vegas their cul-de-sac, mostly confined to china's population growth. packman says the millions spent on panda conservation could be used to save other animals. one conservationist argues that reasoning is irresponsible. pandas have adapted to where they live. what are your thoughts? should tax dollars be spent on panda conservation? should nature be allowed to take its course? let's go the phones and talk first to pete. in elizabeth town, kentucky. hi, pete. >> caller: yeah, of course, we should. i think it's sad when one of god's creatures lives is in the hands of the other. it's quick to say let's not do anything about it, throw it away. if the tables were turned i would hope the pandas would save the humans. >> interesting. thanks. eric in marion, virginia. you're up, what do you think? >> caller: let them go peacefully. god made them. i mean, figure it's his call to
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let them go. i mean, up to him. >> yeah. you don't think we should interfere? >> caller: no. >> let nature take over? >> caller: yes. >> all right. appreciate it. don is in charlotte, donna, how are you doing? >> caller: i think it's irresponsible to say let nature take its course because it's actually humans taking their course. humans destroyed their habitat. it's our responsibility to restructure it. >> all right. so if we made their living space inhospitable then we should be the ones to protect them, right? >> caller: exactly. it's our responsibility. >> i appreciate it. have a good weekend. we're getting texts and e-mails. richard e-mailed this. if we can give millions of dollars yearly to other countries to bribe them to like us, i'd rather see money save the pandas. we should let nature take the course as it did with the creatures that walked this earth billions of years ago. why continue to waste money on something we don't have control over? tom disagrees.
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pandas are a unique link to our environment and world. they inspire millions and are a symbol of our commitment to preservation. spend whatever is necessary. kit writes this. yes, let's save the panda. too bad we don't feel so warm and cuddly about poor americans. take care of serious seniors and children first. rene e-mailed us, we humans have already allowed too many life forms on our planet to die out. with have an urgent responsibility to save always species we can. interesting topic. thanks, everybody for weighing in. we appreciate it. parents play a significant role on putting brakes on teen drivers. bad ones. teens with parents who are actively involved in setting rules and boundaries cut the risk of drinking and driving by 70%. teens are less likely to get in a crash if they don't have their own car. an excitie ining addition t primetime lineup. "the joy behar show" will air
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tuesday and every weeknight at 9:00 eastern on hln. here's a little taste of what you'll get. it's her "moment of joy" commentary. >> you know, unless you're a professional kick boxer or a traveling salesman with a fetish, there is no real reason for an adult to ever engage in spanking. a new study says there are actually parents who are spanking a 1-year-old child. now, what could a 1-year-old possibly do to deserve being spanked? come home drunk after a date? lose the family fortune playing the ponies? start a war under false pretenses? in my opinion, there's nothing a child can do that warrants parents spanking them. young children pee, poop, cry and throw food. okay, so does my uncle louie at the olive garden but that's another story because he drinks. that's what children do. that's their job. it's the parent's job to raise them, teach them right from wrong and communicate in a manner that doesn't involve
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bruising physically or philosophy. the philosopher didn't say i spank, therefore i am, he said i think therefore i am. when your children start carrying on and screaming and yelling and driving you crazy, don't lift your hand to them. lift your mind. think it through. spanking your children won't make them love or respect you. it will make them fear and resent you. do you want to be a parent or network executive? i believe spanking is abuse. hopefully that is not just me. >> joy behar premieres tuesday hln. check it out right now, cnn.com/joy. learning more about the death of a census worker in kentucky. police have released a cause of death and details that raise more questions.
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couple dozens anarchists carried peace signs. one that read no bailout, no capitalism. the thomas murton center sponsored the march. rally included folk singers on various topics. g-20 leaders focused on a healthy global recovery. third summit in less than a year. european leaders pushing for limits on bankers bonuses and groups agreed to give asian and latin american members more influence. much of this morning's business was upstaged by the revelation iran has been operating a secret nuclear facility. the u.s., france and britain threatening sanctions. the u.s. census workers whose body was found near a kentucky cemetery died of asphyxiati asphyxiation. william sharkman had a rope around his necktie e tied to a . the word "fed" was written across his chest with a felt tip pen. whether foul play was involved
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and whether sparkman's death was related to his census work. in a town where businesses have been shuttered level left and right, one detroit landmark has been thriving since the '40s. bargain burgers are keeping the tellway diner alive. poppy harlow got a taste for "assignment detroit." >> can i take your order? >> you get in the recession. you can tell when unemployment comes in. the business picks up or whenever the social security checks come in, the business picks up. >> 95 cents for a cheeseburger. how on earth can you make money, earl? >> well, we do it on volume. that's the whole system is volume. >> why do you set the prices
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this way? >> number one, i want anybody to be able to eat. anyone who wants to eat. if you've got 85 cents and 35 cents for a cup of coffee you can still get something to eat. i'd rather do a lot of business not make as much money than do a little business make a lot of money. i've had customers over there that's 80-something years old and been coming here for 50 years. in detroit, they think it's their home. >> i've been here longer than you've been here. >> we get used to seeing them every morning. it's like clock work. guaranteed somebody is going to be here by 8:00. pushing 10:00, you're looking for him, like, he didn't show up. >> the other part is the workers. we treat them like family. every one of them. if one of them gets in a financial situation, we all try to help them out. >> i bet that's a great place to
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eat. i bet everybody calls you hon in there, too. tell us about earl the owner. >> he is a character. he's 79 years old and plans to work as long as he can. his son, allen, his his grands mark, they're going to take over the business. they say their pop gets up at 3:30 a.m. every day to go to work. this is sort of what you saw at the automakers for a long time. generation after generation working at these businesses in detroit. this one, unlike the automakers, thriving despite the recession. it's been around since the 1940s. just a little slice of "assignment detroit." more right there at cnnmoney.com/detroit. we would love to hear what you think. >> i think it's great. i've loved the series. thanks. much more of the business news up to the minute right there at cnnmoney.com. let's check stocks. a little lower today. it's not been a real good week. probably because of disappointing reports on manufacturing and housing, but the dow had been down more than this. it's down around 30 points, just
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before the close. make it 24. analysts say investors were likely disappointed when durable goods orders fell nearly 2.5% last month. new home sales fell short of economists expectations. they were rising, those sales, but a little short of what they thought. a major prayer event in washington. hundreds of muslims converged in front of the capitol building after lunch to pray. the event was meant to inspire national leaders, but one christian leader called that an attempt to islamcise americans. supreme court justice route baird ginsburg out of the hospital and back at work. the 76-year-old fell ill in her chambers last night and spent the night in a d.c. hospital as a precaution. she became light headed and fatigued after getting treatment for anemia. she underwent surgery for
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pancreatic cancer back in february. and the 61-year-old atkins has died. he was denied parole just this month for her role in the brutal manson murders. a hollywood couple is free on bail. see what sent actor randy quaid and his wife to a texas jail. óó
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has osama bin laden released a new message to the west warning of an attack in europe? what analysts are saying about a new audio recording. the vice president takes stock of georgia's flood zone. why he says it's like hurricane katrina all over again. and here's something we're not used to hearing. an expert says china's endangered pandas should be allowed to die off. what do you think about that? the latest on hln news and views. i'm richelle carey. thanks, as always, for your time. well, a new recording, reportedly from osama bin laden, has just hit the internet. in this recording, the al qaeda
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leader threatens american allies in europe. he asks europeans, this is what he says, how do you think you will fare after america pulls out, referring to afghanistan. we cannot confirm it is bin laden. al qaeda is threatening attacks in germany, where voters are headed to the polls on sunday. we are keeping an eye on two unrelated terror plots targeting two u.s. cities. federal agents say the suspects in both were ready to pull the trigger. there were arrests in illinois and texas. investigators say neither case is connected with the alleged plot undercovered -- uncovered, rather, in colorado or new york. first, let's tell you what happened in springfield, illinois, where fbi arrested arrested 29-year-old michael finton on wednesday. finton is also known as talib islam, which means "student of islam." he's charged with trying to detonate a truck bomb outside a federal building. the justice department says finton actually tried to blow it up with a remote control. he was arrested as he pushed the
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button. agents have actually been tracking him for two years, but the sting operation started in february. according to the fbi affidavit, an undercover agent posed as a low-level al qaeda operative, then he gave finton a van, supposedly filled with a ton of explosives. they were all fake. finton didn't know that, though. agents arrested him after they say he parked the van outside the federal courthouse in springfield and tried to detonate. again, all fake, but tried to detonate it with a cell phone. and a man accused of trying to blow up a dallas skyscraper made his first court appearance today. hosam smadi waived his right to a bond hearing. he's charged with attempting to use a weapon of mass destruction. the fbi says he first got on their radar by posting extremist comments on a chat room. then they contacted him posing
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as a sleeper cell. they gave smadi what he thought was a bomb. then he drove it into the parking garage under dallas' fountain place tower and tried to detonate it with a cell phone. people who live there are glad it's not real. >> very alarming. i work on the 25th floor, so if anything happens, i go. yeah, it is alarming. >> my stomach flipped, or it turned. it's scary. it's like, you hear about it, but never think it's going to happen to you. >> the skyscraper houses the wells fargo bank. a pretty big build there. now to a terror plot that reached from colorado to new york. we've been following this one for days now. an afghan immigrant is on his way to new york this hour to face charges. this is a 24-year-old terror suspect, najibullah zazi. he is charged with conspiracy to use weapons of mass destruction in the u.s. he was in court today where the judge dismissed a lesser charge
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of lying to federal authorities. and this exclusive surveillance video obtained by our sister network, cnn, the fbi says zazi appears to be buying large quantities of hydrogen peroxide at beauty supply shops all around denver, allegedly as a bomb-making ingredient. our susan candiotti has more on his suspicious shopping spree. >> the first video clip, dated july 25th, the fbi says on this day, najibullah zazi bought a big amount of hydrogen peroxide. you see a man with a beard and wearing a baseball cap backwards at the counter, putting one of six bottles there for the cashier, and other items democr, including rollers, clips, and a shower cap. and then in the second video, you see what appears to be the same man in an aisle of this big store. he has a cart, bends over and picks up a dozen bottles of hydrogen peroxide product, loads them into his cart and pushes it
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down the aisle to the cashier. that very same day, the fbi says zazi rented a hotel suite with a stove nearby. and again about two weeks ago, the authorities found acetone residue in the vent above that stove. >> investigators say this is one of the most serious terror threats to the country since 9/11. a family member is casting doubt on mackenzie phillips' claim of incest. the former sitcom star has written a book alleging that she had a ten-year sexual relationship with her father, singer john phillips. we've been talking about this for a few days now. on "the oprah winfrey show" this week, she claimed her now-deceased father started raping her when she was 19. she said that sex became consensual and stretched over a decade. well, now her half-sister, the actress has issued a statement saying, she's heard this story before, but she says that mackenzie recanted.
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this is what she says. when i was 13, mackenzie told me that she had a consensual sexual relationship with our father. this news was confusing and scary as i lived alone with my father since i was 3. i didn't know what to believe and it didn't help that shortly thereafter, mackenzie told me it didn't happen. mackenzie's history with our father is hers, but also clouded with 30 years of drug abuse. i hope she can come to terms with this and find peace. i understand mackenzie's need to come clean with the history she feels will help others, but it's devastating to have the world watch as we try and mend broken fences, especially when the man in question isn't here to defend himself. so don't miss "issues" tonight. jane is going to talk to the widow of john phillips about mackenzie's claims of incest. watch "issues with jane velez-mitchell" at 7:00 eastern time right here on hln. vice president biden toured flood-damaged areas in georgia today and met with families left
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homeless by these deadly storms. the people that you see here are staying at the cobb county civic center, which was converted to a shelter for some of these flood victims. >> the truth of the matter is, for someone who's lost their home, it is katrina. for someone who is in a situation that the people here in this shelter, it is katrina. it is not katrina in its scope by any stretch of the imagination, but the impact on their lives, on your lives, we understand, it is katrina. and on a beautiful, sunny day like today, the worst part of it all is, i know from experience, the tragedy of what happened to you is sinking in. >> biden's visit comes one day after president obama issued a disaster declaration, which gives federal assistance to some of the hardest-hit counties. more rain, yes, more rain is in the forecast for this weekend. the national weather service has issued a flash flood watch from metro atlanta to the north georgia mountains. several aid organizations
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giant pandas, they're adorable. they just are. but a london naturalist thinks they should be left to die with dignity. okay, just hear me out. chris patman says too many money's being spent on trying to save pandas who can't survive on their own. as he puts it, pandas have gone down an evolutionary cul-de-sac. they are mostly confined to the mountains of china, where they are threatened by logging, agriculture, and china's population growth.
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packman says the money spent to save pandas could be used to save other animals. but others say, that's unreasonable. we want to know what young. should tax dollars be spent on panda conservation? let's get to mindy calling from tennessee. min mindy, what do you think? >> caller: i think it's terrible that pandas have been losing their habitats due to mankind tearing down trees and clearing out the land and now they have a very limited area that they can live, so really it's our fault and it's our responsibility to save the few that we have left. and also, i'm not one to e advocate tattoos, but when i was 35, i actually got a panda th
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tattoo for awareness. and i'm 43, and now i haven't ever even see a real panda. >> mindy, thank you for your phone call. let's get to chattanooga. tiffany on the phone. i bet you don't have a tattoo, but tell me how you feel about this. >> caller: well, i don't feel that this guy should have the right to say we need to section off one area of species and just let it die off so we can focus on others. >> let me ask you, though, did you stop to listen to his logic at all? i'm not saying i agree one way or another, did you stop to think at all, or did you immediately reacted because pandas are so cute? >> caller: i immediately reacted because i'm an animal lover and love every kind of animal and i don't think we should decide to kill off one species or let it die off because we're losing funding. and i think it's important for our kids to be able to see what we can do as taking care of the
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species that we have left. i mean, it won't be fair to them whenever they get to be my age, i'm 22, and they won't get to see anything like that. like mindy said, she's 43 and still hasn't seen a panda. >> think it's our responsibility, regardless of the cost, it's our responsibility. >> it is our responsibility, because we are getting -- we're moving into their territory. and it's only right that we take the responsibility to take care of them. because they're defenseless. you know, they don't have a voice. they can't say, hey, you're killing us off. we don't have anywhere to live. >> tiffany, thank you for your phone call. i appreciate it. let's get to some comments on my facebook page. got pretty good response. appreciate that. this is what valerie wrote. "how can it really be -- how hard can it really be to keep some pandas in captivity and let them reproduce? pandas are so cute." rhonda feels this way, "nothing against pandas or any other
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species, but can any of that money be put towards humans? what about homeless people and hungry children?" there were a few people that agreed with rhonda on this point. patrick says this, "we need to keep pandas in captivity, because in the wild, they are being hunted. that's why there are so few of them. they don't harm anyone. they keep to themselves." and alexia feels this way, "well, aren't we getting benefits from kicking the pandas off their natural habitats and killing their ability to survive? once we've done that, we've already disrupted their natural course." the overwhelming number of people felt like it was our responsibility to continue to try to keep pandas around. thanks for all the e-mails, phone calls, facebook comments. "prime news" starts at the top of the hour. a car tire, maybe a huge cat, i mean, a big cat, those are a few of the things that might balance the scales with this big, big newborn. he's a giant. t 28% of your daily fiber.
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paul kirk is now the new junior senator from massachusetts. he was sworn in this afternoon, just literally a few minutes ago by vice president joe biden. kirk was chosen as the interim replacement for the late senator ted kennedy. he died just about a month ago of brain cancer. republicans lost an attempt to delay the swearing in. they had argued that the massachusetts governor exceeded his authority by naming a successor. senator kirk will hold this position not for very long, just until that special election. and that's supposed to happen in january. iran's president is responding to president obama's criticism of that country's latest nuclear enrichment facility. mahmoud ahmadinejad says the facility will not be operational for 18 months and does not violate the rules of the u.n. nuclear agency. he says president obama will regret his comments.
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earlier today, president obama called for the united nations to investigate this new plant. >> iran is breaking rules that all nations must follow, endangering the global nonproliferation regime, denying its own people access to the opportunity they deserve, and threatening the stability and security of the region and the world. >> the u.s., britain, and france have all threatened iran with new sanctions. the u.s. apparently has been aware of this second facility for several years. the obama administration recently shared intelligence about the plant with china and russia in an attempt to get their support for more sanctions on iran. police in omaha, nebraska, found themselves outgunned. they took a drastic step of buying their own assault rifles to match the firepower of criminals on the street. here's todd anderson affiliate ketv with this story.
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>> reporter: for these opd officers, this gun can make all the difference in the line of duty. >> it's something you almost can't do without. >> reporter: that something, the ar-15, a powerful lightweight semiautomatic rifle. a civilized version of a u.s. military weapon and a standard of police s.w.a.t. teams nationwide. here, rank and file opd officers get special training on it. >> we require officers to go through a four-day certification course before they're permitted to carry the ar-15 rifle. >> reporter: after a day in the classroom, training officer lieutenant scott gray and s.w.a.t. team members lead 24 trainees through everything from positioning tactics to 100-yard marksmanship. >> the dynamic do change with a long gun. obviously, the rifles have a lot more power than say a handgun. >> reporter: power, officers say, is increasing important, amid the ever-changing facts.
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>> we're out gunned. >> we have l.a. bank shoot-out, columbine, von maur. >> reporter: so important that these officers who otherwise would not have them opted to pay for the rifles themselves. and they're not cheap. >> some of these guys and gals out here are spending over $2,000. >> reporter: plus, more and more of these men and women are putting up their own money to help increase public safety, with some 300 officers now equipped with the ar-15. >> it's important to, at the very least, match up what we're going out to face. >> reporter: our thanks to todd andrews from affiliate ketv for that report. firefighters stepped up efforts to contain a wildfire. this one is burning in ventura county, california. their efforts are paying off. right now it's 75% contained and they hope they will have surrounded by tomorrow. the hot, dry winds hampered their efforts, but those are dying down and a break in the
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heat and humidity also helped to slow the flames. a bumpy week on wall street as investors reacted to a bunch of mixed economic reports. stephanie elam joins us from new york to tell us if stocks ended the week in the green. because it's the overall picture, right, stephanie? >> right, but it doesn't matter. for the day, for the week, we're down. not crazy down, but we are down. numbers on new home sales, consumer sentiment, and orders for big ticket items kept investors cautious about an economic recovery. all the major averages finished in the red for the third session in the row. the dow losing 42 points. nasdaq off 16 points and the s&p 500 gave up almost two-thirds of a president. shares of research in motion tumbled 17% today. the maker of blackberry's smartphones posted a 4% decline in profits. the company also gave a disappointing outlook for the current quarter, sparking fears that it's losing the battle with apple's iphone and other rivals. and the housing market, sales up on new single family homes up
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a new recording reportedly from osama bin laden has hit the internet. and in this recording, the al qaeda leader threatens american allies in europe. he asks europeans, this is what he says, how do you think you will fare after america pulls out? referring to afghanistan. we cannot confirm this is bin laden. al qaeda is threatening attacks in germany, where voters are headed to the polls sunday. paul kirk is now the new junior senator from massachusetts. this happened a few minutes ago. he was sworn in by vice president joe biden. kirk was chosen as the interim replacement for the late senator ted kennedy who died a month ago
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of brain cancer. republicans lost an attempt to delay the swearing in. they argued that the massachusetts governor exceeded his authority by naming a successor. senator kirk will hold this position just for a little while, because there's going to be a special election in january. more than a thousand demonstrators are marching outside the g-20 summit. it's happening in pittsburgh. organizers of the people's march promise a peaceful protest to demand solutions to the economic and environmental crisis. they claim the g-20 countries created dozens of people have been arrested since the summit began. yesterday, demonstrators broke windows and broke through barricades that led to clashes with riot police, they used pepper spray and rubber bullets to disperse the crowd. iran's president is responding to president obama's criticism of that country's newest nuclear enrichment facility. mahmoud ahmadinejad says the facility will not be operational for 18 months and does not
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violate the rules of the u.n. nuclear agency. and he says president obama will regret his comments. earlier today, president obama called for the united nations to investigate this new plant. >> iran is breaking rules that all nations must follow. endangering the global nonproliferation regime, denying its own people access to the opportunity they deserve, and threatening the stability and security of the region and the world. the u.s., britain, and france have threatened iran with new sanctions. the u.s. apparently has been aware of the second facility for several years. the obama administration recently shared intelligence about this plant with china and russia in an effort to get their support for sanctions on iran. important evidence related to the murder case of caylee antony may have been destroyed by an fbi test.
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orlando affiliate has more on what could have gone wrong. >> reporter: it was one of those jaw-dropping disclosures in the case against casey anthony, that on the duct tape wrapped around caylee's mouth and nose area, someone placed a heart-shaped sticker. sheriff's detective yuri mel itch used that fbi claim in a search warrant to see stickers and other items from casey's arts and crafts closet, but local 6 has obtained this laboratory communication log revealing the lab destroyed any traces of a heart outline on the duct tape. so it can neve be compared to the hearts recovered from casey's home or an a piece of cardboard found 30 to 50 feet away from caylee's skull. the key document was not included in 8,000 pages of discovery released to the public, but local six has obtained before its official release page 93-16 of the discovery. and it reveals why no one else will ever see the outline of a heart on the duct tape.
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december 13th, 2008. two days after caylee's body was found, it reveals that latent print examiner elizabeth fontaine reported a heart-shaped/outline was noticed on tape. but it goes on to reveal that any outline was obliterated in the fingerprint testing process. unable to see it after powder process. the fbi could have taken a photo of the shape before it tried and failed to find fingerprints on the duct tape, but it didn't. no photo of image, the lab notes on december 13th. two days later, back at the serge site, the notes reveal fbi agents wanted more, to know if the teu, the trace evidence unit at the fbi law saw anything on tape. per teu, no, didn't see any heart-shaped item. >> and thanks to tony of orlando affiliate kng for that report. and by the way, he says his call to the fbi fingerprint analyst
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was not returned. we are keeping an eye on two unrelated terror plots targeting two u.s. cities. federal agents say the suspects in both were ready to pull the trigger. there were arrests in texas and illinois. investigators say neither case is connected, but the allege plot uncovered in colorado and new york. first, let's get to springfield, illinois, where fbi agents arrested 29-year-old michael finson wednesday. finton is also known as talib islam, which means "student of islam." he is accused of trying to detonate a truck bomb outside a federal build. the justice department says fin actually tried to blow it up with the remote control and was arrested as he pushed that button. agents have been tracking him for about two years, but this sting operation started back in february. according to the fbi affidavit, an undercover agent posed as a low-level al qaeda operative and then gave finton a van supposedly filled with a ton of
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explosives. the bombs were fake. finton did not know that. agents arrested him after they say he parked the van outside the federal courthouse in springfield and tried to detonate it with a cell phone. now, a man accused of trying to blow up a dallas skyscraper made his first court appearance today. hosam smadi waived his rights to an immigration hearing. he's going to remain in jail. a probable cause hearing has been set for october 5th. he's charged with attempting to use a weapon of mass destruction. agents say smadi first got on their radar by posting violent comments in an extremist chat room. then undercover officers contacted him, posing as an al qaeda sleeper cell. they gave him what he thought was a bomb. then they say he drove into the parking garage under the fountain place tower in dallas and tried to detonate it with a cell phone. people who work there are just glad that it wasn't a real bomb. >> it's very alarming, yeah.
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oh, yeah. i work on the 21st floor, so if anything happens, then i'm gone. yeah. it is alarming. >> my stomach flipped, it turned. it's scary. it's like, you hear about it, but you never think it's going to happen to you. >> wells fargo bank is what's in that building. the mystery surrounding the death of a census worker found hanging from a tree with the word "fed" scrawled across his chest is leaving his friends and colleagues wanting some answers. jamie wise from affiliate welx in kentucky has the story. >> why would someone hurt mr. sparkman? >> reporter: friends and colleagues of 51-year-old bill sparkman says they are shocked by the mysterious death of the well-liked scout master and substitute teacher. >> he loved being around the children so much, he went back to school and got his degree. >> reporter: this is video of sparkman taking part in a commencement address in 2008 for
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western governors university in salt lake city. friend and retired state trooper gilbert acharto says he knew when sparkman didn't show up for work, something was wrong. >> mr. sparkman was always where he was supposed to be, when he was supposed to be. >> reporter: he says sparkman was going door to door for the census bureau in a drug-ridden area of rural county. >> we did some checking ourselves, but the following morning, we called state police and they went right to work on it for us. >> sparkman was found hanging in a tree in a remote area of the daniel boone national forest. the word "fed" was scrawled on his chest. the fbi was called. >> we're working with the state police to determine the nature of his death and whether it was related to his employment with the census bureau. >> reporter: the fbi now knows how he dies, but isn't sure who is responsible. >> he was found with a rope around his neck and that rope was looped over a tree and his
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feet were on the ground, so he did die of asphyxiation. we do know that. how that came about, we're not sure. there are three possibilities, obviously, could be accidental, could be suicide, or it could be a murder. >> reporter: sparkman's friends say it's a tragic end to his life, especially because he recently suffered with non-hodgkin's lymphoma, but was in remission and had been very hopeful lately. >> everybody loved him. the kids loved him and the staff loved him as well. >> our thanks to jamie wise from affiliate welx for that report. a family member is casting doubt on mackenzie phillips' claims of incest. the former sitcom star, as you know, she's written this book, everyone's been talking about this. in this book, she alleges that she had a ten-year sexual relationship with her father, singer john phillips. on "the oprah winfrey show" this week, she claims her now-deceased dad started raping her when she was 19. she said the sex became
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consensual and stretched over a decade. now her half-sister, actress bijou phillips has issued a statement saying, she's heard this story before, but she says mackenzie recanted. this is what she released, her statement. "when i was 13, mackenzie told me she had a consensual sexual relationship with our father. this news was confusing and scary, as i lived alone with my father since i was 3. i didn't know what to believe and it didn't help that shortly thereafter, mackenzie told me it didn't happen. mackenzie's history with our father is hers, but also clouded with 30 years of drug abuse. i hope she can come to terms with this and find peace. i understand mackenzie's need to come clean with the history she feels will help others, but it's devastating to have the world watch as we try and mend broken fences, especially when the man in question isn't here to defend himself." mackenzie phillips told oprah winfrey despite the firestorm that erupted since her interview, she says she doesn't regret writing her memoir, "high
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on arrival." and people have been talking, there has been a firestorm. okay. let's lighten things up. actually, there's been a firestorm about this too. giant pandas are adored like big teddy bears, so why would someone say their time is up? why one naturalist wants to pull the plug on the species. ♪ you're the one
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hazmat crews are monitori ining chemicals in the air and are advising people that live nearby to keep doors and windows shut. vice president joe biden toured flood damage in germaorg today. he met with families that are homeless now because of the deadly storm. some people are staying in the cobb county civic center that have been converted to a shelter for these flood victims. yesterday president obama issued a disaster declaration that gives federal assistance to some of the hardest-hit counties. more rain is in the forecast for this weekend. a flash flood watch from the metro atlanta to the north georgia mountains is in effect. and several aid organizations are helping the victims of all this flooding. to find out how you can help, go to cnn.com/impact and there's a list of agencies providing help. giant pandas, i mean, they're so adorable. but a london naturalist thinks
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they should be left to die with dignity. chris packman says that too much money is being spent on trying to save pandas who can't survive on their own. as he puts it, pandas have gone down an evolutionary cul-de-sac. they are mostly confined to the mountains of china, where they are threatened by logging, agriculture, and china's population growth. packman says that the millions spent on panda conservation could be used to save other animals. but one conservationist calls that reasoning irresponsible. he says pandas have adapted to where they live. we put this question to you. there i am. what do you think? should tax dollars be spent on panda conservation or should we let nature take its course? picked a few comments from my facebook page. you were pretty fired up, but kind of ticked up. some put it this way. the pandas dying are not
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nature's course. it's man destroying their habitat. mark feels this way. it would be natural to let the pandas alone. why let an innocent living species die out. all pandas do is eat bamboo. keith wants this question. do we want a world without these and other endangered species. we can sit back while we destroy habitats and watch all animals become instinct, but is that the world we want to live in? keith's trying to put a question to us. nice technique. robin says this, i hope they don't let them die out. i love pandas. i had a little toy stuffed panda when i was little and i wished that it was real. i think we probably all did. and patricia says, to all those people letti inting nature take course, if you were to get cancer, are you going to let nature take its course or are you going to fight? there were a few people, a few people who agreed with this particular naturalist, but i've got to be honest, not a lot of
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coming up in just a few minutes here's a preview of what's coming up at the top of the hour. startling developments in the search for haleigh cummings, explosive allegations from her step-mom's friend that haleigh is dead. plus a courageous move from jaycee dugard. her attorney says she has agreed to testify against the couple accused of kidnapping and raping her. and a bittersweet moment for an ohio woman impregnated with the wrong embryo. we've been telling you about this story. she's just given birth to a healthy baby boy. we'll take your calls
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1-877-tell-hln. some omaha, nebraska -- nebraska cops, rather, are buying their own guns. the ar-15 rifle is standard for the city's emergency response units and for s.w.a.t. teams nationwide. now rank and file officers are buying the high-powered weapons to keep up with the bad guys. not only are the guns expensive, the ammunition costs 450 bucks for a thousand rounds. the ar-15 is a civilian version of a military gun. a woman in indonesia has given birth to a baby boy most folks would have a tough time picking up. look at him. 19 pounds. that's a normal baby -- normal-size baby, rather, he was next to. nothing not normal about him. don't get mad at me. the record was back in 1879.
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athletes, and we want them to know that they can be more than a singer, dancer, or football player. we have another program for which comcast is our media partner on young ambassadors. we try to teach young adults to navigate life. we teach conflict resolution, about vocations, and about going to school, the importance of time management, discipline, that kind of thing. >> thou, you have an anniversary awards luncheon coming up. you recognize numerous women for their wonderful accomplishments. when is the luncheon? >> sunday, september 27th. people remember it by the sunday morning following the congressional black caucus. it's at 11:00 this year, which is a change of time. >> where is it located? >> this year at the united states naval yard, sixth and m street southeast.
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we're looking forward to having a wonderful time. there's a beautiful view of the water there. >> and in celebrating your 25th anniversary, congratulations, by the way. >> thank youia who are some of our honorees? there's an extensive list. >> we always honor first our founding chairs and fathers. we want to salute them first. janet lange heart corn, we have several other women, we always honor the newly elected blank congresswomen. that will be marsha fudge this year. we have a judge from michigan, judge denise langhart mars, and
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i'm sure we have a couple of more, a general manager of a car dealer, ms. craft from the area, and of course, our wonderful chair, president of the northern verge urban league laverne chapman. regina kelly, the subject of the movie american violet. >> you have an extensive list of women that touch us in so many areas of our lives. >> we have a good mother award. this year it's being received by peter harvey. we are honoring him, because as an attorney general, he worked very hard on domestic violence. that's one of our projects. we honored him. last year we were honored that have kami brown.
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>> thank you for honoring him. >> we are probably the only organization in town that has a $75 fundraising ticket. that's the general admission. there are corporate tickets, member tickets, and general membership tickets, general public tickets. they are selling pretty fast this year. when they hear about the honorees, people want to bring their young children, especially young women to meet these people. they can meet the young lady that flew across the country. >> thank you for joining me. >> we hope to see you there this year. >> my pleasure, definitely. my guest has been dr. faye williams national chair of the national congress of black women. if you're interested in what comcast is doing in your area, go to on demand and click local.
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an explosive tip that night haleigh cummings vanished reports step-mom misty took little haleigh to a drug-filled party. a letter from an inmate says she overdosed on the powerful narcotic oxycontin. friends panicked. could this be true? they've just put out a felony warrant for her arrest. a woman carried a child for nine months and just gave birth and now must give him up. today, new insights on what caused this mortifying mistake.
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an important part of the show. call us, 1-877-tell-hln. our e-mail is at cnn.com/primenews. or text us at hlntv and start your message with the word "prime." this is your chance to be heard. >> controversy, opinion, your point of view. this is "prime news." welcome to "prime news." i'm jim moret from "inside edition" for mike galanos. jaw-dropping developments. step-mom misty the last to see her. now explosive allegations from misty's friend. is it true that little hague leigh was taken to a drug-fueled party, overdosed on oxycontin and died? we have the friend's letter written from behind bars plus an arrest warrant now out for misty's mochl. are cops putting the squeeze on misty's family? remember, this woman has had doubts about her own daughter from day one. >> deep down in my heart, yes, i think my daughter's holding
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something back will i think them both are holding something back. that's just in my heart. >> i'm going to tell her i love her and if you know anything at all, please tell me. we can work through it. i'll be right there by your side. we'll get through it, but just please tell me whatever you're holding back. >> joining me now vido goluchi, jr., former police detective and t.j. hart from wsky, 97.3 f.m. gainesville, florida. thanks both for joining us. first, tj, bring us up to date with the latest. >> first of all you heard about that letter and that letter was all it is a letter from jail but the letter from jail also reveals something that was in a signed statement and in that signed affidavit that was given to law officers they were led to believe according to the writer of that affidavit, haleigh was at a party with misty, her party pal who wrote the letter to her boyfriend, also junior and a couple other people.
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now, according to the affidavit mentioned in the letter, this is only according to it, that hague leigh ate some oxycontin, died, was placed in a plastic bag. one of the men in the party put her in a pond. that's all in the letter. is haleigh dead, no, we are still looking for a live girl at this point because there is really no evidence that has turned up a body at this point but this is just the letter and it does throw shocking insight into what people are telling police, especially in a signed sworn affidavit. >> t.j., stay on the line. vido, as a former detective, when you get a letter like this, how much credence do you give it given the fact the letter does have some specifics and there, apparently some, corroborating evidence, isn't there? >> there is. >> yeah, you know, there is. but, jim, i'm having trouble with this because all thee months have gone by and the police have not develop ad lead on this party, with all the people that would know about this? no one dropped the dime, no one told their friend? i mean, if there was this party,
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then i can't understand the police work involved in this, i'll be very honest with you. >> are you suggesting -- t.j., what's your take on this? because vito has a good point. this is months and months ago no one has mentioned a party until this letter. why now? >> that's the odd part. you see there was a party situation where misty participated with several people mentioned in that letter. a couple days from when the child went missing, in fact a couple days on end of a non-stop party. what would one more day be in the case of some people? one thing that was mentioned, the child was dropped in a bag and then into a pond. now, that letter was dated 9-18. the night of 9-18, memory serves me correctly they started draining a pond. whether or not that has anything to to do with the statement in the letter i don't know but there is irony there. >> a phone call from sabrina in
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kentucky. you're on the air. >> caller: hi, jim. do you a great job. >> thank you. >> caller: my question is about misty's brother. the night he was supposed to go over there and claims he banged on the door, i was wondering if it's possible he could have coursed that little girl to open the door and maybe he took her and maybe that's why he's waited so long to tell investigators that he was there that night? >> vito, what's your take on that caller's comment? >> it's a good point she's making but, you know, i'm not buying this whole thing, you know, misty and ron know a lot more than what's coming out. you know, the police, the first thing you are going to do as a good cop, okay, you don't have time to open up a crime book 101 and learn this stuff you're going to talk to everyone that knows this family, everyone that knows misty and him, and ron. okay? somebody would have told you. you get the least culpable person, you give them immunity if they're not involved in any of this kind of stu. this case should have been solved months ago, i hate to say it. but this is not good police work going on in this, i'll tell you that much. >> vito, after all these months
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to make this sharp left turn and get this information suggesting there was a party, a drug overdose then hiding this child's body, it's very disturbing to have this so long and deep into this investigation. >> especially as a cop and you have a girl, misty, that keeps coming into headquarters for you and, you know, voice analysis, polygraphs against her lawyer's wishes, come on that's a dream for a police officer. a lead investigator on a case like this. and you can't solve this? this woman is in and out of your police department. something's not going right here, i tell you that much. >> t.j. hart and vito golucchi, jrmts, thank you for joining us. a big announcements from jaycee dugard, kidnapped 18 years ago may soon face her accused captors in court. her lawyer says she has agreed to take the stand. a man now coming forward claiming to be jaycee's biological father and he wants a paternity test. give me a call, 1-877-tell-hln. stay with us.
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two big developments in the traumatic kidnapping and rape of jaycee dugard. just finding out dugard will testify against her accused kidnappers phillip and nancy ga ree do. her lawyer says she's agreed to face the couple charged with keeping her in a secret backyard compound, an 18-year-long ordeal. her lawyer says she understands the magnitude of what happened to her. >> she's had children in that environment. so, it's really what she has known, really, in essence, for her life. so, that's one competing
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emotion. on the other side, there's no question that she knows that terrible and wrong things were done to her. >> plus a man jaycee never knew now coming forward claiming to be her biological father. he wants a reunion, a relationship. will this be too much for her to handle? we're taking your calls, 1-877-tell-hln. joining me robin sachs, former prosecutor who specializes in sex crimes and psychologist cooper lawrence author of the cult of celebrity. thanks both for joining us. robin, first to you as a prosecutor when you hear that a victim an alleged victim will testify against the accused that's got to give you a great feeling going into the case. >> oh, absolutely, as a prosecutor, when you know that your victim stands behind the decision, wants to go forward and prosecute and is in that position, that's a wonderful feeling. but, also, when i think about this, i want -- i think it's an opportunity to educate the public that it's not the worst thing in the world for a victim
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to go through a prosecution. it actually can turn out to be a very empowering and wonderful experience. >> cooper, this case is problematic on so many levels, though. i was surprised when i heard jaycee agreed to testify because we had heard about the stockholm syndrome, the idea you bond with your captors and after 18 years, does it surprise you after such a short time being free that she understands what was done to her? >> well, you have to understand stockholm syndrome isn't about being friends with your captors and wanting to pal around with them but finding a way to cope and realize there are human beings that are abusiving but you don't want to go on. how do you find the humanity to figure out how not to get hit or abused. it is not about being friendly but survival. if she is somebody interested in surviv survival, i mean, testifying is the best thing she could do. this is taking back her life. this is her own humanity that
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she's finally worried about. >> but, cooper, don't you get a sense that given the fact that she was seen in public and worked for -- for the publishing, the printing company, seen by other people that she somehow identified with her captor and had two children with him? >> the identification is not -- first of all, she was very young when she was taken, at a time you are trying to figure out who you are, what is my identity,. if your identity is wrapped up in this other person's psychosis, you don't know what to believe and just follow along because you are a child and don't know how to behave and you want to stay safe. like i said a lot is about survival, not about bonding, or identifying in a positive way, it's a negative association because most kids come out of this and they have post-traumatic stress disorder. they don't have wonderful relationships. they have depression. so, her testifying is the first step to her taking back who she is and taking back an opportunity to maybe change her future. >> robin sax, what kind of witness do you think jaycee
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could prove to be on the stand? >> i think that someone who can go and recount what happened and someone who is having the support of the family, her family, which she absolutely has right now, she's going to -- you can't predict how she's going to actually perform, but she's going to be at least in the best possible position to relay what happened to her. >> how do you prepare a witness like this psychologically? you must work, robin, with a psychologist so that you're not, in effect, beating up on her and making her re-live so much of the nightmare but still want to impart to the jury what happened. >> well, usually in sexual assault investigations, as hear in california and i'm sure no doubt happened in antioch was it's a multi-disciplinary team approach. what that means is that there are a whole team of people who are working together to make sure to maximize prosecution and minimize trauma. that includes having social workers on board, therapists on
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board, doctors, and advocates, prosecutors, law enforcement all working together in their different areas to ensure justice is being done and no doubt that's what's going on in this case. you see collection of organizations coming together to make it so that this will be, you know, the best possible prosecution. >> and, cooper, we have 30 seconds before the break. but, going into this case, how difficult, what kind of delicate balance do you have to strike when you prepare someone like jaycee to take the stand? >> it's going to be difficult because these are the people she lived with and identified with so long and now realizing she was in a bad situation. i think the best approach go with the facts not try to dwell on the emotional aspect because my guess is she's probably still very confused about that. >> we have much more ahead on jaycee dugard and the man coming forward claiming to be her biological dad. he even wants a paternity test. we're taking your calls, 1-877-tell-hln. revered luxury sedan.'s mt
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welcome back to "prime news." back now taking your calls on jaycee dugard, the woman kidnapped 18 years ago. now a man is coming forward claiming to be her biological dad. jaycee is 29. this man was not in her life for the first 11 years before she was kidnapped. does he have a right to be in it now? call 1-877-tell-hln. and let's listen to that man, ken slaten, who claims to be the biological father of jaycee dugard. >> i believe that jaycee lee is my daughter. i've reached this conclusion based on the fact that the fbi told me that jaycee lee's mother had identified me as the father and the eldorado sheriff
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department treated me as the father. also, jaycee lee has the same middle name as me and my two daughters brittany and sara lee. my friend told me that susan had the baby and the baby even looked like me. >> back to our guests robin sax, prosecutor and author. former da specializing in sex crimes and psychologist author of "cult of celebrity" cooper lawrence. to both of you, let me give you a background. i did speak with this man, ken slayton. he claims he had a brief relationship a month relationship with jay krooe's mom, they broke up, he didn't even know she was pregnant. she never contacted him. he didn't know about jaycee until the fbi came to his house when she was kidnapped and said you're a potential suspect. we want your dna. he was more than willing to and, in fact, gave his dna. he's never heard back from them, never heard that jaycee was found. so, robin sax, from a legal
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standpoint, what do you think this man should do? he's coming forward. he's willing to take a dna test. >> well, being willing to take a dna test and asserting parental rights and wanting a reunification are two different aspects here we have to look at in this case. and i, from wanting to know if he's the father and being -- having that knowledge is one thing but then to all of a sudden right at this point of reemergence back into society this man now, even if se the biological father wants to come forward and add that bit of trauma to her life? i question that. >> so, you think it's a bad idea? >> i do. i do think it is a bad idea. i think it's a bad idea at this time, at least. i think -- and to make this a media issue is not the way that i think you're going to really show you that want to assert your interest in being a good parent instead of trying to deal with this at the appropriate time. >> i have to cut you off. much more on jaycee dugard. remember you are an important part of this show.
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1-877-tell-hln. first, let's meet this week's cnn hero helping muslim women protect themselves against abuse. take a look. >> this is cnnheroes. >> abuse cuts across race, religion, culture. i'm a muslim, born and raised in pakistan. migrated it new york in 1990. within the muslim community, there's a lot of denial about the issue. i was -- koran condemns abusive behavior of women. if we witness injustice, we're required to speak up. i'm rabina nez helping muslim women end abuse in their lives. we do a lot of community outreach, a lot of our sisters are being abused. this affects one of us. we need to talk about it.
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>> i was afraid for my life. i didn't have a place to go. my family would disown me. my father even said to me you're lucky you live in america because if you lived back home, you would have been dead by now. rabina understand the cultural nuances and all of the religious issues. >> our first duty is to protect ourselves. we tell them how to get into a shelter, what their rights are. >> she really made me understand that i'm not alone. >> we are here whenever you want to come to us. >> i told my friend about you. >> when it's the right time. >> there have been threats to my safety. but, i know that god is protecting me, because i'm doing the right thing.
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welcome back to "prime news." a huge mix-up at fertility clinic it actually implanted and embryo into the wrong woman's womb. carolyn savage just gave birth to someone else's baby. it was carolyn's last chance to carry her own child. she never thought she would suddenly be a surrogate for complete strangers. well, the baby boy, just arrived and he's going home with his biological parents. both of these families have been put through so much. what's next? here's what the biological mother told nbc's "today show." >> we've talked about, um,
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having e-mail contact and so forth but we'll see how we all feel. we'll at least keep in contact but we have no expectations of them and they don't have of us so the nice thing has been we've been able to work together on this and, unfortunately this has been a terrible thing and happened to two good families but we are doing the best we can for the health of this baby. >> and back with us former prosecutor robin sax and psychologist cooper lawrence. cooper, wow, i can't even imagine, i know some people who have been through the sur gacy program, others who have adopted. this is a nightmare in anybody's language. how do you deal with this? >> well, there's a lot to deal with because, you know, the normal milestones you go through as a mother, the pregnancy, the apgar score, every aspect of it, you know, has been robbed of these people. even though they are technically the biological parents, she didn't go through the process so
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i think on an emotional level it will be difficult for her. there has been research it is hard to bond with the child initially and may take her more time to bond with the child although technically she's the biological mother. she didn't go through the process of actually having the baby. that's neither here nor there because a lot of times women do recover from that. the bigger picture is if they're going to keep both families in this child's life. i think that is much more confusing. >> and what would you suggest, briefly? >> i just don't see any reason for it. i think, you know, for a child, a lot of the research that we have now, the new empirical research on adoption is not good, not that adoption isn't good, i want to be clear about that, but we have found that children that are adopted that spend time with what we consider adoptive parents or parents not their biological parents have a harder time at school, a hard harderly and more psychological problems so why even open the door for that. >> robin, from a legal standpoint, this is a mess and
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clearly there is potential legal action here. of what would you suggest or, in the -- in the spirit of healing, would you leave it alone? >> well, there's a lot of different potential legal issues here, first of all, you have a potential civil lawsuit by both families that could sue the fertility clinic and that's going to have, you know, potentially consequences on how fertility clinics do, you know, business in the future. and that would be the place where both of those families should go for financial reward. they're not likely to sue each other because this was a mistake on behalf of the clinic. and then the other aspect is the does the family court become involved in this type of case, where all of a sudden you're going to see, probably the worst fear of the biological family right now is that the surrogate family is going to, at some point, end up trying to assert some sort of custody rights. >> well, it does seem, both families, incidentally have previous children and it seems that the surrogate family considered this a gift or a
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blessing and were kind enough to step aside with no -- with no hassles. robin, you're suggesting they may have second thoughts down the road or that's the fear of the biological family? >> yeah. i don't think -- i have no reason to believe that that's necessarily going to happen in this particular case but i'm sure that is a fear from the biological standpoint. when we look at a case like this, you start wondering if you are setting up a time to visit and create that relationship when it's not healthy and in the best interests of the child and you've made a decision to make a gift, why else you would do it? >> and, cooper, i know that many people enlist and become surrogates but these folks were unwitting sur gats and you go through an entire pregnancy and having had children, it's a wonderful time in your family's life to experience that pregnancy, along with the mom-to-be. this family was really short-changed in a horrible way. >> they were. and they're going to go through some emotional turmoil as a result. they may not want to have children for a while. they may feel very angry and
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hurt. but, the bottom line is, isn't this about this child and what's best for this child? so, in a way, i mean, if anybody just had a surrogate unwittingly or not, the idea of a surrogate is somebody to carry the baby for you and they have no other connection other than that and the baby goes and lives with the family and the siblings and develops the way any other child would develop. so, i think it's -- yes, it's very difficult on these people and i recommend they go through therapy because all those months of pregnancy and the expectations, i can't even imagine what that woman is going through at the moment. but, the bottom line is, what's best for the child? what's best for the child is being with the biological family. >> cooper, we only have about 10 seconds but when you talked about the biological mom not yet having a bond, isn't it really similar to an adoption situation, an adoptive parent doesn't really have the bond you experience during pregnancy but you form one later? >> some do, some don't. what's really interesting a recent study that says age is the factor. so, the younger the mom, the less likely they're going to
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bond. so it really matters the age of the mother. >> robin, sax, former prosecutor author "predator and child moo lesters" and cooper lawrence author of "cult of celebrity" thank you both for joining us. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> nasty words directed at president obama. some critics mouthing off to his face. is it his policy or is this racism? everyone from president jimmy carter to bill cosby has jumped in on this. but, it's the next debate you won't want to miss. a programming note for you, hln is excited to welcome joy behar to our prime time lineup next week "the joy behar show" premieres tuesdays 9:00 p.m. eastern. check her out right now, ng cnn.com/joy.no why don't you wait until this show is over and then check her out. be right back. the interior "positively oozes class," raves "car magazine." "slick and sensuous," boasts "the washington times." "the most striking vw in recent memory," declares-- okay, i get it already.
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the president because he's african-american? is it a huge national debate, which really took off after former president jimmy carter made this statement. >> and i think people that are guilty of that kind of personal attack are against obama have been influenced, to a major degree, by a belief that he should not be president because he happens to be african-american. it's a racist attitude. >> the president kind of tried to lighten things up. he joked about it with david letterman earlier this week. >> first of all, i think it's important to realize that i was actually black before the election. so -- [ laughter ] so -- >> really? this is true? >> this is true. >> and how long have you bean
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black man. >> that's pretty good. i've been black a long time myself, too. but all jokes aside, this debate has created a lot of tension across the country so joining me now tim weiss, author -- and joe hicks national advisory council member of project 21. all right, gentlemen let's talk about this. first, let's talk about what. carter said. joe, first i want to know, do you agree with any of what former president jimmy carter said? >> it's good to see tim again. i don't agree with what jimmy carter said. he's trying to get inside of a lot of people's heads. it might be the kind of view he has of the world. you know, he may be reflecting on some old segregationist views he once held before he became president. but, it's not fair to try to get inside the heads of white people. >> you did just call jimmy carter a racist, joe? >> no, i didn't. what i said -- >> you said -- >> early -- undeniable early in
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his life he was linked to segregation views. i don't suggest he is a bigot or racist now so let's be clear what i'm saying here. >> okay. >> what i'm arguing is he's trying to get inside the heads of a lot of good white americans and claim they are viewing this president and the situation through racist eyes. i think the president was right in diffusing it by saying clearly the implication was of i was black before the election. a lot of white voters in fact voted for me. so, what does that say? >> tim, your take. >> let's talk about what president carter said. he didn't say all the opposition or even most of it was about race but some of the most vitriolic over-the-top rhetoric. so for example if you carry posters and many were with the president dressed as an african-witch doctor that is racism and what carter was talking about. if you have a sign that says go back to kenya, that's racism and what he was talking about. of us who have raised this issue
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pointed out some of the rhetoric from the top of the conservative food chain -- -- beck saying the health care bill is really about rep pa rations for black people, it is obviously nonsense but a good way to provoke white racial anger. that doesn't mean every white person opposed to obama is responding to the racism perpetrated but that rhetoric is out there and that's what president carter was talking about and he was right. >> tim, i hear what you're saying and i hear what you're saying specifically about what president carter said but the way some people took it, let me read a statement that michael steele made, chairman of the republican national committee. this is how he and a lot of people took it. he said characterizing americans' disapproval of president obama's policies as being based on race is an outrage and a troubling sign about the lengths democrats will go to disparage all who disagree with them. playing the race card shows that democrats are willing to deal from the bottom of the deck.
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>> but what -- >> some people just see it, tim. >> sure. >> he just played the race card, period. and now, no one can criticize president obama without being seen as a racist. plain an simple. >> the problem, is white folks also have and black conservatives assist in this, have a race kartd of their own, the ace of denial and trumps whatever race cards folks of color have and secondly remember i think they are deliberately missbirpting the statements. i've been on several cnn shows and talked about this. every time the first sentence out of my mouth is, as follows, i realize not all the opposition to the president is about racism. and yet, i will receive literally hundreds of e-mails from people who ignore that part and only want to assume that i called them all racist or that president carter did. their intentionally misrepresenting what we say. >> joe, i want you to respond to that. >> tim -- >> go ahead. >> tim, you are starting to irritate me a bit and i like you. i used to run the southern christian leadership conference -- marching in the
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streets for years of this country. i don't want anybody to tell me i'm naive about racism. the fact is this notion of trying to look at people who are in the street protesting politics and trying to imbue them with racism is the height of the kind of excesses the left is going to to try to left up rocks and prop up their agenda claiming racism still exists in every white heart in america. tim, i guess a lot of people look at you and argue are you an unconscious racism that's an argument a lot on the left make. you would agree with that. >> great discussion. clearly we'll have to give you two more time when i book both of you. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> coming up mackenzie phil lips' sickening stories of incest. her shocking tell-all is so ugly now her little sister is coming forward. what she says may floor you. welcome to our mcdonald's.
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a legendary show buzz family torn apart new backlash over revolting allegations of incest saying she had consensual sex with her own father. today, her sister -- came forward saying her father would never be capable of doing such things. here's what started it all. phillips on oprah to promote her tell-all book. >> i woke up that night from a blackout to find myself having sex with my own father. your father is supposed to protect you. your father is supposed to protect you. not [ bleep ] you. >> oprah invited her back on her show today. she showed up with her supportive sister china. joining us bill kleary a life-long friend of john phillips and jane
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velez-mitchell. thanks both of you for joining us. mr. cleary, first to you. you knew john phillips well for many years. >> extremely well, extremely well, since he was 3 years old. >> when you heard these allegations made by mackenzie phillips on national television, what went through your mind. >> i was just totally shocked. this is just something crazy and insane. i don't know anyone that -- any junkie i've ever known has ever told the truth t. kind of goes back to that. i think mackenzie has probably been in rehab about ten times, the type of thing she never gets clean. she just goes in and learns a few quick phrases and comes back out. >> mr. cleary, did you ever see their interaction, did you know mackenzie well and see them together. >> in my arms the day she was born. i've seen them together my whole life and her whole life and john's whole life. >> so, her allegations went
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beyond the sexual molestation or relationship, i guess, she called it. she said that her father was the first person to inject her with drugs. do you believe that? >> she's been saying that for years and i have nothing to to on, that i can say that that's correct or incorrect. i don't know. i know john used drugs and i know john was using heroin at one point in his life. i think he started using it when he was about 32 or 33 when he went to new york to work on a broadway show that he had written. other than that, i don't know what went on between them, as far as drug usage. >> jane velez-mitchell from the standpoint of a recovering alcoholic, when you come clean, so to speak, and you make these revelations, many people will say, i don't believe you. which is what we're hearing here. what's your take on this? >> my take is, if she's not actually clean and sober, as the gentleman who was just on said, it is very, very likely she
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could be lying, because addicts lie. they make big lies. and they lie all the time. however, if she is clean and sober, she may be telling the truth. but here's my problem with it. it was just over a year ago that she was arrested on pretty serious drug charges involving cocaine and heroin. if she's sober, she's very newly sober, perhaps at the very most a year. this is not the kind of thing you're supposed to be doing in early sobriety. you're not supposed to do anything that's very high-profile or dramatic or bring attention to yourself because you're supposed to be focused on staying sober. so i question that. i question why this isn't being done in some kind of private behind closed doors therapeutic family therapy session. and the other thing i question is motive. yes, she has a book out. yes, she's doing a tv show. but there's a deeper motive perhaps, and that is the anger, the rage that the child of the alcoholic or the addict feels toward the alcoholic addict parent. i describe this in my book. >> we're going to get to this in a minute. )d)d)d)d)d)d)d)d)d)d)d@
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an explosive tip the night haleigh cummings vanished. that misty took little haleigh to a drug-fueled party. a letter from a jail inmate says haleigh overdosed on the powerful narcotic oxycontin. friends panicked.@@ haleigh died.@@ could this be true? perhaps the police can ask misty's own mother because they just put out a felony warrant for her arrest. a mix-up at a fertility clin irk, a woman carried the child for nine months.@@ she just gave birth and must give him up. new insights on what caused this mortifying mistake.
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you're an important part of the shoef. call us, 1-877-tell-hln. our e-mail is at cnn.com/primenews. or text us at hlntv, and start your message with the word prime. this is your chance to be heard. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com welcome to "prime news." i'm jim mon ra from "inside edition," in for mike galanos. stepmom misty was the last one to see her. now explosive allegations from misty's friend. is it true that little haleigh was taken to a drug raged fuel party, overdosed on oxycontin and died? we have the friend's letter written from behind bars. an arrest warrant is now out for misty's mom. are the cops putting the squeeze on misty's family.@@ remember, this woman has had doubts about her own daughter from day one. >> yes, i think my heart was
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holding something back. i think they're both holding something back. that's just in my heart. i'm going to tell her i love her. if you know anything at all, please tell me. we can work it through. i'll be right there by your side. we'll get through it.úú but just please tell me whateve@ you're holding back. >> joining me now, vito, a former police detective. and t.j. hart, program and news director for wsky, 97.3 fm in gainesville, florida. thank you both for joining us. let's go to t.j. hart, bring us up to date with the latest, t.j. >> you heard about that letter. and the letter is all it is, a letter from jail. but the letter from jail also reveals something that was in a signed statement, and in that signed affidavit that was given to law officers that were led to believe, according to the writer of that affidavit, haleigh was at a party with misty, her party pal who wrote the letter to her boyfriend, also junior and a couple of other people.
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now, according to the affidavit mentioned in the letter, and this is only according to it, that haleigh ate some oxycontin, died, was placed in a plastic bag. one of the men at the party put her in a pond. that's all in the letter. is haleigh dead? no, we're still looking for a live girl at this point because there's really no evidence they've turned up a body at this point. but this letter has shocking insight into what people are telling police. especially in a signed sworn affidavit. >> t.j., stay on the line. vito, as a former detective, when you get a letter like this, how much credence do you give it, given the fact the letter does have some specifics. and there is apparently some corroborating evidence, isn't there? >> there is. you know, there is. but jim, i'm having trouble with this. because all these months have gone by, and the police have not developed a lead on this party? with all the people knowing about this? no one dropped a dime?
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no one told their friend? if there was this party, i can't believe the police work involveú in this, i'll be honest with you. >> t.j., what's your take on this? because vito has a good point. this is months and months ago, no one's mentioned a party until this letter. why now? >> that's the odd part. there was a party situation where misty participated with several people mentioned in that letter. a couple of days after the child went missing. a couple of days of nonstop partying. what would one more day be, in the case of some people. now, one thing that was mentioned is the child was dropped in a bag and into a pond. now, that letter was dated 9-18. the night of 9-18, they started draining a pond southwest of placket. whether that has anything to do with that statement, mentioned in the letter, i don't know. but there is some kind of irony there. >> we have a foun call from sabrina in kentucky. you're on the air.
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>> caller: hi, john, you do a great job. >> thank you. >> caller: my question is about misty's brother, the night he was supposed to go over there and claims he beat and banged on the door. i was wondering if it was possible he could have coerced the little girl to open the door and he took her and that's why he waited so long to tell investigators he was there that night. >> vito, what's your take on that caller's comment? >> it's a good point she's making. but i'm not buying this whole thing. misty and ron know a lot more than what's coming out. you know, the police, the first thing you're going to do as a good cop, you don't have time to open up a crime book 101 and learn this stuff. you're going to talk to everyone that knows this family. everyone that knows misty and him. and ron. okay? somebody would have told you. you get the least culpable person. you give them immunity if they're not involved in any of this kind of stuff. and this case should have been solved months ago, i hate to say it. but this is not good police work going on in this, i'll tell you that much. >> vito, after all of these
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months to make this sharp left turn and get this information suggesting there was a party, a drug overdose and then hiding this child's body, it's very disturbing to have this so long and deep into this investigation. >> special live as a cop, and you have a girl, misty, that keeps coming into headquarters for you. and voice analysis, polygraphs, against her lawyer's wishes. come on, that's a dream for a police officer, a lead investigator on a case like this. and you can't solve this? this woman is in and out of your police department. something's not going right here, i'll tell you that much. >> t.j. hart and vito, thank you both for joining us. a big announcement from jaycee dugard, the woman @@ kidnapped 18 years ago may soon@ face her accused captors in court. jaycee's lawyer says she has agreed to take the stand. plus a man is coming forward claiming to jaycee's biological father and he wants a paternity@ test. give me a call, 1-877-tell-hln.@ % have some fun with that truck.
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two big developments right now in the traumatic kidnapping and rape of jaycee dugard. we're just finding out dugard will testify against her accused kidnappers, phillip and nancy garrido. her lawyers said she's agreed to face the couple keeping her in ú backyard secret compound in an 18-year-long ordeal. her lawyer said she understands the magnitude of what happened to her. >> she's had children in that environment. so it's really what she has known, really, in essence for her life. so that's one competing emotion@
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on the other side, there's no question that she knows the terrible and wrong things were done to her. >> plus, a man jaycee never knew is now coming forward claiming to be her biological father. he wants a reunion, a relationship. will this be too much for her t@ handle? we're taking@@ your calls, 1-877-tell-hln. joining me, robin sachs, a former prosecutor who specializes in sex crimes. and psychologist, cooper lawrence, author of the cult of celebrity. thanks to both of you for joining us. robin, first to you, as a prosecutor, when you hear an alleged victim will testify against the accused, that's got to give you a great feeling going into the case. >> oh, absolutely, as a prosecutor, when you know that your victim stands behind the decision, wants to go forward and prosecute, and is in that position, that's a wonderful feeling. but also, when i think about this, i want -- i think it's an opportunity to educate the public that it's not the worst thing in the world for a victim
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to go through a prosecution. it actually can turn out to be a very empowering and wonderful experience. >> cooper, this case is problematic on so many levels. i was surprised when i heard that jaycee had agreed to testify. because we had heard about the stockholm syndrome, this idea that you bond with your captors. and after 18 years, does it surprise you that after such a short time of being free, that she understands what was done to her? >> well, you have to understand, stockholm syndrome isn't about being friends with your captors and wanting to pal around with them. it's about finding a way to cope. it's about finding a way to realize there are human beings who are abusive but you want to make sure the abuse does not go on. how do i find the humanity how not to get hit, not get abused. it's not really about being friendly, it's just about survival. >> but do you get a sense -- >> testifying is the best thing she could to. because this is taking back her life. this is her own humanity she's
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finally worried about. >> cooper, don't you get a sense that given the fact she was seen in public and worked for the printing company, and was seen by other people, that she somehow identified with her captor, and had two children with him? >> but the identification is not -- first of all, she was very young when she was taken. she was taken at a time when you're trying to figure out who you are, what is my identity. if you're wrapped up in this other person's psychosis, you follow along because you're a child and you don't know how to behave and you want to stay safe. like i said, a lot of it is about survival. it's not about bonding, or identifying in a positive way. it's a negative association. because most kids come out of this and they have post-traumatic stress disorder. they don't have wonderful relationships. they have depression. her testifying is the first step to her taking back who she is, and taking back an opportunity to maybe change her future. >> robin sax what kind of
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witness do you think jaycee could prove to be on the stand? >> i think that someone who can go and recount what happened and someone who is having the support of her family, which she absolutely has right now, she's going to -- you can't predict how she's going to actually perform, but she's going to be at least in the best possible position to relay what happened to her. >> how do you prepare a witness like this psychologically? you must work, robin, with a psychologist, so that you're not in effect beating up on her and making her relive so much of the nightmare. but you still want to impart to the jury what happened. >> well, usually in sexual assault investigations, as here in california, and i'm sure no doubt have been in antioch, it's a multi-disciplinary team approach. what that means is that there are a whole team of people who are working together to make sure, to maximize prosecution, and minimize trauma. that includes having social workers on board, therapists on
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board, doctors, and advocates, prosecutors, law enforcement, all working together in their different areas to ensure that justice is being done. there's no doubt that that's what's going on in this case. you see a collection of organizations coming together to make it so that this will be, you know, the best possible prosecution. >> cooper, we have 30 seconds before the break. but going into this case, how difficult, what kind of delicate balance do you have to strike when you prepare someone like xx jaycee to take the stand? >> it's going to be difficult. these are the people she did live with and identify with for so long. now she's realizing that she was in a bad situation. so i think the best approach is to just go with the facts, try not to dwell too much on the emotional aspect. because my guess is she's still probably very confused about that. >> we have much more ahead on jaycee dugard, and the man coming forward claiming to be her biological dad. he even wants a paternity test.@ we're taking your calls, 1-877-tell-hln.@@me on , i had e other things
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welcome back to "prime news." i'm jim moret from "inside edition" in for mike galanos. taking your calls on jaycee dugard, the woman kidnapped 18 years ago. now a man is coming forward claiming to be her biological dad. jaycee is 29. this man was not in her life for the first 11 years before she was kidnapped. does he have the right to be in@ it now?@@ call 1-877-tell-hln. let's listen to that man, who claims to be the biological father of jaycee dugard. >> i believe that jaycee lee is my daughter. i've reached this conclusion based on the facts that the fbi told me that jaycee lee's mother had identified me as the father. and the el dorado sheriff's
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department treat me as the father. also, jaycee lee has the same middle name as me, as lee, and my two daughters brittany and úú sarah le. my friend told me that susan had the baby, and the baby even looked like me. >> let's go back to our guest, robin sax, former d.a. who specializes in sex crimes. and cooper lawrence. to both of you, let me give you background. i did speak with this man, ken slayton. he claims he had a brief relationship, a month-relationship with jaycee's mom. they broke up. he didn't even know she was pregnant. he never contacted him. he didn't know about jaycee until the fbi came to his house, when she was kidnapped and said, you're a potential suspect. we want your dna. he was more than willing to, in fact, gave his dna. he's never heard back from them. never heard that jaycee was found. so robin sax, from a legal
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standpoint, what do you think this man should do? he's coming clean to take a dna test. >> be willing to take a dna test and asserting parental rights and wanting a reyun fi indication are two different aspects here that we have to look at in this case. from wanting to know if he's the father, and being -- having that knowledge is one thing. but to all of a sudden right at this point of reemergence back into society, this man now, even if he is the biological father, wants to come forward and add that bit of trauma to her life? i question that. >> so you think it's a bad idea? >> i do. i do think it is a bad idea. i think it's a bad idea at this time at least. i think -- and to make this a media issue is not the way that i think you're going to really show that you want to assert your interest in being a good parent instead of trying to deal with this at the proappropriate time. >> more on jaycee dugard. remember, you are an important part of this show.
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let's meet this week's cnn hero. she's helping muslim women protect themselves against abuse. take a look. >> abuse cuts across race, religion, culture. i'm a muslim, born and raised in pakistan. i emigrated to new york in 1990. winston cup the muslim community, there's a lot of denial about the issue. koran condemns abusive behavior of women. we are required to speak up. i'm robina and i'm helping muslim women and abuse in their lives. we do a lot of community outreach. a lot of our sisters are being abused. this affects all of us. we need to talk about it. >> i was afraid for my life.
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i didn't have a place to go. my family would disown me. my father even said to me, you're lucky you live in america, because if you lived back home, you would have been dead by now. rabina understood the cultural nuances and all the religious issues. >> islam is our first duty is to protect ourselves. the important thing -- >> we tell them how to get into a shelter. what their rights are. >> she really made me understand that i'm not alone. >> we are here whenever you want to come to us. i told my friend about you. when it's the right time. there have been threats to my safety. but i know that god is protecting me. because i'm doing the right thing.
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