tv Women and the Conservative Movement CSPAN June 25, 2012 4:00am-6:00am EDT
>> the third thing. let me spend 01 minutes on it. you need someone to help you carry the ball. republicans will say that obama did this. nobody says anything. that is the end of the story. that is the end. but if the media picks up and runs with it, if they get excited about this, then you have enormous momentum. day in and day out. you can get the country to start considering the proposition to take a look at it. that is what the media has done for the democrats. they do it continually.
i have always known that the media was on the left. that is for the lean. you always have a disadvantage. i never considered it a disadvantage, but in the sense that there would be more against you than they would never before you. he would not give a fair opportunity to make your case. you always knew that. we have lots of radio shows. we are well aware of the disadvantage. always have been. however, the media, by definition, is supposed to be an institution that keeps honesty with elected officials and candidates and movements to make sure they're honest and people are getting the facts. way is what they're going
overboard. this is ridiculous. this war on women, for instance. this is what happened. there is a federal assault on religious freedom. forced to pay be for abortion and contraception, things against their religious beliefs. there is no way this will survive the supreme court challenge. but they were adamant that they were going to do this. of course, the feminists would love it and the women would love it. there would rally around the president. we made it the case. well, within a few days, we thought this was terrific. within a few days, we had a war
on women. we were going after their contraception. this is outrageous. and i thought, how did i get from here to here in a matter of days. there is no discussion. others would talk about religious freedom. that is boring. let's talk a war on women. he had an interview with john mccain. he said, and you think there is something among a war on women against republicans. not, there is a suggestion among democrats. let's ask them how they can make this case. no. let's make the presumption and have the republicans defend themselves. we are out there defending ourselves. what a ridiculous debate. we lost it days. there were winning that one.
one reason. we're not talking about the most important thing to women. and that is the key. that is the key. this is the politics. they need of the women to win in november. and women tend to go more for democrats. they need to not only win, they are hurting with a man badly. they need to win big. they decide, ok. we have to go to the women and strip them of the republican vote. this is key to us. and so, they came up with this war on women. make the republicans look outrageous. that is where they went. now, i want to take a little credit for something. i was one television to talk to of the first amendment. now i am saying, 30 years, i've
never had any woman say to me, why are you taking my contraception? i know you're talking about. i'm having a hard time making this case. and then the romney campaign called me because they had some new information. they're talking about some research they had done. of all these people, more people have lost jobs, 93% of those who had lost jobs are women. i said, excuse me. did you just a 93%? they said, yes. at 92% of jobs lost are women. this is a beautiful thing -- not but i want to see women losing jobs, but this and that it would turn women around quite nicely. the next erratic conference call. -- of the next day we had a conference call. there were three of us. the former senator spoke first.
i said, if you want to have a discussion about a war on women, you should go to the white house. not only do they have proms without a pay the women in the white house, the white house staff, but the second point is that women account for 93% of the jobs lost. under barack obama and his policies, women are losing jobs. well, then some local elected officials spoke on the phone call. every single question of the media, and we had nbc, cbs, the new york times ron, said to me? what was the number? do i think this is an exaggeration? threat to the have established a word? of course not. but if you recall war on women, that is the economy. of the jobs. what you think women care about
most? i was a single mom. making sure we will be able to provide for them. likewise, married women. t think they want to see their husbands lose jobs? -- do you think they want to see their husbands lose jobs? you don't think they are concerned? in addition to that, they have huge debt. you don't telling there are concerned? they are undermining -- they basically show enormous disrespect for women if they think women are more worried about some phony war on their contraception more than the economy. they have at all wrong. that is the key. they know they have a problem with the economy. they know women are suffering. they know that small business women cannot stay alive if they have their taxes going up.
they know they are in trouble. they need to be listed -- to be able to take care of themselves and their families. that is where the argument goes. respect women. of the polls are overwhelming. it is the economy. the jobs. the spending in washington. a obamacare. those of the things they are worried about. if we win on those -- today, i saw an ad. i will close with this. the new obama and is on women. he comes out. there's a very attractive picture of the president -- son of a single mom, father to two daughters. and he cares about women. the first thing he did was sign this bill that gives equal pay to women.
wycherley was not equal pay to women. that already existed. it was to give the ability to sue easily in the workplace. and then, obama believes in fairness for women. like we do not? excuse me. is is not a war on women. it is fairness for women. that is where they will go. there will pull back on the war and go to the fairness. women out there trying to make a living, tried to take care of themselves, trying to skip their hopes and dreams, be able to have those hopes and dreams. that is where we go. let me tell you. this is going to be some tough of five months because they need those women. you can expect every possible accusation against republicans at every single stage. that we indeed want to undermine
and suppress the freedoms and rights. so far i believe the have overplayed their hand. i think we can play them one on one. hit it. we will be able to help women for the next four years. you'll be able to go forward to the future. thank you. [applause] >> we have time for questions and answers right now. please go to the microphone. you can line up right there. that is fine. please see your name before you ask questions. ok? >> i have a question for cristina. i am an intern. my question has to do with the
-- acts. i was wondering if you have any insight into that. >> well, this act was introduced four years ago. it is about fairness. it is predicated on the assumption that the reason women earn less than men in the workplace is because of unscrupulous employers. it dismays me to meet -- to see this sort of language in the bill. there is no evidence for that. an irresponsible economists who look at the wage gap sees there are innocent explanations that have nothing to do with meanspirited and unscrupulous employers. so, what does the bill ask for?
as they said, we already have laws. we have had losses since the 1960's against wage discrimination. if you try to pay jill 76 cents and you give jack same job for $1, jill can take you into court. the paycheck fairness act is about the women's groups say that the reason women are paid less for certain jobs is because of the legacy of discrimination. in the bill it says that employers are not only irresponsible for not discriminating, but they cannot pay it if it is a legacy of discrimination. what does that mean? employers have no idea. i know what it means having been a student of feminist economics for many years. some of the activists in washington think, let's say, universities will paid
professors in the law school more than they pay purposes in the school of social work. there will pay professors of engineers more the new paper festers of education. there are more men in engineering than in the schools of education,. some will say it is market driven. if he not pay engineers that can get some much more in the private force. it is impossible to attract them about salaries. women will say, isn't this part of the legacy? were nurturing jobs are given less about you than jobs in business? the can go into court and try to make this case. get employers'll wanting to settle the case and not go to court because it is so expensive. it's made it easier to sue.
of when you first came to the united states? can you give me some of your memories of when you first came here? a and >> the first apartment rented we would hide. but then america was good. this was a moment when the economy was good. all the people and the churches helped us. we got ahead. i was the first person in my family to marry an american. my mother used to say, you took a risk.
my children said, would you mean, a risk? later on, the good news is we did really well. my brother became the mayor of miami. he was the mayor three times. my son alex got elected to be a state senator at age 27. i'm looking at all of you, and in a couple of years you could all be state senators. at the same time iambs torn by thinking that if you were in cuba, you would have been part of that culture where the family thinks of you as someone who could bring money. let me leave you with that idea. i see you're young faces. the pain of coming from a country where this is accepted.
the mentality of cuba would put you in a different situation. thank you. >> i am from the university of regina. i am an intern. my question is in regards to religious women. i think i remember reading that women tend to be more religious than men or it tends to be an important part, including myself. it feels like the left has projected the concerns of religious women. and don't want to finance the sexually promiscuous choices of other women.
i just wondered if you all would speak to that. >> i recently wrote a book about the history of conservative feminism. believe it or not, there is a tradition. it is a kind of lost continent. the women's are not celebrated in women's history month, but they were there. they played a critical role in women's emancipation. of course, we think of temperance has a very outdated cause. at the time, it was a feminist issue. it was implicated in family violence and desertion.
but frances willard was able to attract a lot of religious women. initially, this was not a popular cause. it wasn't that men were against it -- many were. but many women were against suffrage. for complicate reasons i will not go into. if you just appeal to them and abstract ideals, they were unmoved. what frances willard did is show that with the home -- with the votes, she attracted mainstream religious women into the movement. there is a wonderful sociologist who has shown how women made their greatest progress when there is a conservative and progressive wing in the movement and worked together. i think that is a big problem today. we don't have a conservative wing. we don't even have a moderate wing.
only a radical wing. the official voice of women is coming from the left wing and feminists. the women's group talk about women having been marginalized into silence. they turn around and found a movement that marginalized the majority of their sisters. that's why we encourage you to begin to organize around women's issues to support groups. demand a place in the women's center that you be heard. and there is a battle. take back feminism from the feminists. is too important to be left in their hands. >> let me just mention -- add on to that. i grew them if it -- i agree with everything. if you look modern feminism
today, the whole movement is driven by self. did he do what is best for them. if i'm not ready to have a child, that it is my right to decide when. if i am pregnant, i should be able to abort the child. i should have opportunities. it plays into this whole idea that if you're a mother, you heard it from one effeminacy a couple months ago. you never worked a day of life. they don't respect the home. it is all about me getting more knowledge, more information, more opportunities, in the professional fields. then if you look at religion, it is about service. that is where they say the real happiness comes from. you're there to make life easier for them.
pregnant, it is unexpected, not time, you put your child first. it is two different philosophies. once you recognize that, you listen to those feminists. i was on television when i was a single mom of three kids. i stay here femina said the unit to find time for yourself. i think, on space? i take a shower and kids come in. but you talking about? there is no own time. you're part of a family now. that is your time. i think you'll constantly see a very selfish theme run through most of their arguments. that is where the religion fights it. >> thank you.
i'm going to my senior year. recently i read a book called manning up. it was interesting because everything they wanted has succeeded. there are actually making more money than men. you have more women graduating from college than men. it's sad to see this. i was wondering if you had any thoughts. it is hard to be equal.
i am just wondering what your thoughts are. what is the best path? >> i think a big challenge for many of you, college-educated young women is to find a man as educated as you are. the new women's movement has succeeded. i became concerned about how we are treating boys. i lifted classrooms across the country. there is a lot of policies that come out of schools of education. the tree masculinity as toxic. if you look at the way boys
play. classrooms, it is a bit of an exaggeration, not much. they're mostly run by women for girls. we see they are further and further behind. they bear the brunt of a lot of bad policy. we have a network of women's organizations like you have never seen. a juggernaut marching in sister solidarity. they are there. what do the boys have? there is this juggernaut. where are the organizations?
we have good efforts to strengthen math and science. where are the initiatives to strengthen boys in reading, writing, and attendance. they are nowhere. , is to try to impose them, they say you're just trying to take away what they gave to women. they are champions for the women. most women do not see the world that way. we have sons. male friends. husbands. their future is our future. if we had more moderate and conservative women, we would assert that connection. but the lack of our voice led to this complete and balance. >> i am going to be a senior.
[unintelligible] my question is, where would you start in trying to convince them? [unintelligible] perhaps you have friends of eurozone, women leaders. maybe there is a book or something. where did you start? >> first of all, you have to become very bold and assertive in your expression of what you believe.
you cannot let the fact that you're basically a minority on a college campus and be intimidated by that. you have to live your life as a woman who truly believes in this country and all of the opportunities available to you. but also believe in family, if you are religious. you have a value sent to live them. you live them boldly. the sick, i may -- i'm an american. -- you say, i am an american. i found that i have given many speeches on college campuses. i get e-mail's for people say 10 years ago i laughed issue, but now we are mothers. and you know what? you were right. that is not all bad. that is would you can do.
the sale, is the best in the world, and guess what? 400,000 women lost jobs with him. you think that is good? make them think. challenge to them. don't let them intimidate you. then they become someone you remember. and the taxes are unbelievable. my son is a law student and he got a bonus. they made at nothing. he is a father of two children. they live on loans. it was $10,000. he was excited. the-$4,500. the rest went to taxes. he made no money. it is a dividend for something. she is devastated. that will happen to a few left
wingers and then they will become conservative when it comes to fiscal issues in a matter of short time. you guys have to be your own leaders. and then you go from there and you'll become stronger if you really are determined to be someone who speaks for those diaries that mean something to you -- for those principles that means something to you. >> [unintelligible] what is the current path in popularizing the conservative movement? what approach? >> what is the approach?
again, as i said, the first thing, number one, is that you know a few issues. you don't have to love them all. just a few that are important to you and start debating them. i am talking about how you do this. and then you speak about it. you constantly make points. you look for opportunities. make your case. you have it wrong. everytime a child's life is taken. they will beat the blazes out of the. you will be unprepared. that is why you keep coming back. some conservatives disagree with me on this, but i believe, i am not an in-your-face kind of person. i will take you on and hold my own. but i have a sense of humor and a sense of respect. it goes a great deal and a great distance. you see then the next day. you lost the primary, didn't
you? laugh about it. boy, you knock us off our game plan yesterday. you know what i mean? whether it be local politics on campus or issues that are happening or presidential. don't take yourself too seriously. recognize that the issues you hold dear are taken seriously. don't let anybody get away with this missing them or ridiculing them. come right back, even if you're not sure what you're going to say. your intensity and your beliefs, that sells. that person seriously believes this. they will consider what you said. you can make a difference. that is how you sell conservatives -- conservatism in
my opinion. and by the way, it sells are really well because we are right. [laughter] >> [unintelligible] >> i will tell you a story. i had a friend who told me -- it was nighttime. all that day, all he had was a potato. so, he looked to the potato. as he was going to cook it, he thought about the next day. so, he cut it in half and he ate half. one of the things that most journalists but fails to see, they fail to see the way food
controls everybody -- a lack of food. many times, when you do not have any food to offer to your child, you take a little bit of sugar, you take it in the water, you shake it, this is your milk for the day. and this is your meal for tomorrow. and i'm doing a demonstration because we go a lot of abstract thoughts here. i like you to remember this. you put the sugar in water. this is your meal for today. as mrs. buchanan says, we are the women and we are responsible for our children's of food. a heartbreaking thing is that it is difficult to see how they control you. i'll give you one example.
is a well-known an magazine. when it comes to food, to you know what it says? six months ago, it said that all the cubans have a ration card. it says the government subsidizes food. and you are like, how can a journalist to be so awful? this is what has been done all over the world. all over the world people think that the health is good in cuba. medicines are good in cuba. you know what i take for presence to my friends when i go to cuba? as a block with an aspirin. this is what i give them as gifts. there is no aspirin.
how do you think the republicans will go about by fixing it? >> right. i cannot speak for the legislators. i can say what i think we are hoping to see. when congress passed this law, they dealt with the coverage issue and not the cost issue. as for the small business owners i represent, even if we win, we still want reform that will drive down costs. you alluded to some of these solutions out there. just like with life insurance, you should be able to buy health insurance across state lines. it should be truly affordable period. i think it has increasingly become the case that people are tied to their employer through their insurance. if we could all this be treated the same under the tax system so
it does not matter if you get your insurance through your employer or not, you get tax- free dollars, then it does become affordable. one other thing i would say that is a problem with this lot is all of the mandates. it is not just from having insurance. it is what kind of insurance you have. this came out from the chief justice. a lot of people are never going to need substance abuse treatment. under this law, all of us will have to buy a policy that includes that, which means we are paying extra for something that we may never need. we want more flexibility. people to be able to pick. a lot of people i represent to not need pre-paid medical expenses. they can pay to go to the doctor. they need true insurance that helps if you get hit by the
proverbial rock. that is of the government keeps coming to. the rest of us have to pay their bills. under this law, that type of catastrophic coverage is illegal. you cannot buy a policy under this law that would just cover those types of illnesses. many of my members, that is all they need, that is all they want. we want more choice. not less like we have now. and the coal tax treatment. >> thank you. >> i am president of the students for life group. my question is more for miss somers. among my peers, i have noticed this idea that in order to be a woman in the career field to almost has to become a man in that we are expected to sterilize ourselves.
the top academics such as law and medicine have high investments in turerm of time. by the time you get residents you -- your peak years are over. at the same time, i might not want to make -- wait until i'm done with medical school to start dating. i am wondering if you have any advice on how to balance that? >> these are very big questions. it would be nice if we had a women's movement that was responsive to them. but, in fact, from the beginning, the second wave of feminism has been good at telling children to not have children and granting the right to abort them if you get pregnant. they're very good about that. what about women that want to
have children and want to be with them? what are the policies that they encouraged to make that possible? i do not see them. i think that is a huge problem. it is not responsive to where women are. . women are high- powered careers. they are the height of success and are very devoted. 20% of women just want to stay home. they might if they have to if some misfortune the falls them. about 60% of us are in the middle. the women in the middle behave more like the stay-at-home women and the tourists.
there is an article today that just came out in the atlantic. it caused a stir in the front page of the new york times. she was a high-powered official. and she ended up leaving her job and not pursuing any more in washington. she just wanted to be home. she had a cooperative husband. you find it is not the same period during a 12-year-old boy who is skipping school and the husband was trying to handle it. she knew that she had to be there. women are very distracted by children. it is not easy to put them in day care and not think about them. a lot of men can do that. they find it possible. we need a women's movement that is responsive to that need, that
reality. i cannot refer you to organizations that are responding to this issue. there are a few, but they're very small. they are convinced that gender is just arbitrary. it is cultural socialization. there's no difference. if you just give little girls trucks we could socialize them. your problems would be solved because we would be a gender- neutral population. it is a feminist fairy tale from the 1970's. mother nature appears to be not that politically correct. there are differences. it is causing a stir because it makes feminists' very nervous when women admit they have some special attraction to the domestic beer. it is all about getting women
out in the public sphere. most women want to be in both spheres. forman, it is very different. >> that was an excellent question, as all of them have been, i might add. specifically, i think would you have to come to grips with, one of the ladies said it is hard to be equal. it is not hard to be equal as long as you recognize you're not the same. we're not the same as men. why would we want to be? we got the better end of the deal. we have enormous talents and abilities. they're going to want to pursue them. if you want to be a doctor, go for it. it doesn't mean you postpone dating or a family.
it means, this is what you're doing right now. the key is to keep your minds open to other possibilities. as you're going through school, you meet somebody, you marry, maybe you will work full-time or the corporate route. you have all kinds of choices available to you. don't not get the education. you don't know it will conflict. go as fast and as hard as you walked when it comes to education. enjoy life. if the opportunity comes to be married grasp it. i know so many professional women who tried to do all things. one was an attorney climbing the corporate ladder.
and then the kids came and they were not happy. they wanted to be available for school places they get older. they're constantly thinking of the kids. it was not working. and it will not. you cannot have all things. one said, finally, go become a prosecutor. and forget this corporate ladder your on. so, she became a prosecutor. it is nine to five work. and then she became a judge. it is a wonderful profession. she is top notch in the legal profession. the doctor decided to become an emergency room doctor and works nights while the husband is home with the kids. she kept her hands and it a number of years.
that is where your options are. keep your mind open to any variation. now they are first, what can i do to make certain they are there when they need me. it is up to you, it is of your husband how you work out what is best for your family. do not think that the best thing is to wait 20 years and then hope you have a family band. if you believe that, you might want to read some of those silly magazines in the line of the safeway where everybody is trying to have babies at 40 and spending huge sums of money. there were sold a bill of goods. they realize, what do i have? a profession? an empty nest? they want to have a family around them. that is the bill of goods. there is nothing better than
being a wife and a mother in a family that is harmonious and works together to move in the interest of all ahead. >> and that does want to add, when you hear some of the things we say, i don't want you to take it as an encouraging oil problem. it is an opportunity. some will go to graduate school. you can change things. especially conservative women. there is a desperate need for your presence in the shaping of policies. journalist, writing the articles that appear at influence young women. right now, i can tell you we need a major correction. the women's movement is dysfunctional. they have a monopoly on the knowledge about women.
that knowledge is not trustworthy. i cannot encourage you and not to pursue careers were you can change the way we talk about men and women. it does not have to be a center of a feminist with odd a theories about the world. they should not have a monopoly on how we think about ourselves. thank you. >> this is our last one. we only have time for one more. >> i am a senior. my question is as a woman in college and of being active, a lot of my friends, my feminist friends think that i am anti- woman. they think i am posing as a woman, not really a woman.
[unintelligible] what can you say, what can i say to my friends that would convince them or even a showcase that conservatives and republicans really are pro woman? >> well, i am thinking about some young women who invited me. i was part of conservative coming out week. it is scary to come out as a republican as opposed to a gay. there are very welcoming with whatever is your sexual identity, but when it comes to your politics. they approached it as -- actually, the other students were pretty cool about it.
they realized they were being intolerant. they don't like to be accused of being intolerant. it is one way to tell them that they are practicing a kind of bigotry and closed at mindedness that they disapprove of. it is almost as if they dehumanize you if you're a conservative. they overlook the you are a human being with opinions. they have to be more open- minded. i would use that language. of the language of tolerance and inclusiveness. see how it works. it is tough out there. we think everybody here in the panel has probably experience, over the years, some kind of
indication that you were on the wrong side. you're trying to hold us back. you're not there for us. and then there you all feel it enormously. i have had any number of stories told to me about what you do experience when you take a pro- life position or a conservative position on a social issue. i learned something from my dad was a coach of for years in every imaginable sport, but mostly basketball. he always said the best defense is a strong offense. i have taken that to heart and politics. as soon as you feel that you're in a defensive posture, then they are moving you. that is outrageous. don't let people make you feel that way unless you are wrong about something. but we're talking about your beliefs about those things you
hold dear, though let anybody ever make you feel that way. the way to get around that, that i have a found, is go right to them. put it back on them. if it is pro-life, i mentioned earlier. how can you possibly do that? you're taking women's rights away. it is a constitutional right. i say, what about the life of your child? become very passionate about the child. or lookit the second victim. have you not talk to women or read about women that have had abortions? do you even know what you're doing? make them stop and be on the defense. you get an enormous amount of energy as you defend those things you believe. they may throw questions you that you don't know the answers. that is not a problem. we've all been there. that is how we got the answers.
it is no difference than anything other than a sport. you practice, you practice. the moment you start feeling defensive and hesitant, you know that you're not ready for this battle. you better get ready. you can change lives. you can move people to make better decisions in their own lives. you can make a difference in your family, your community. if you speak out with confidence and clarity. if you do not speak, you cannot do any of the above. you'll be a follower. you can be quite and content to say, they are wrong, i am right. so, start now. the moment i feel has attended and uncomfortable, -- i feel
hesitant and uncomfortable, no i am not ready. i will not have people make me feel like i should not say something i believe because i don't know the answer to their questions. i will find them. i will study it and i am coming back. i will keep coming back until nobody makes me feel this way again. then you can change of things. too many conservatives have been hesitant and quiet. that is my position. we need u.s. leaders. we cannot meet u.s. of followers. get in line, a game. get in line. [applause] >> thank you all very much. thanks to our panelists. i know there were other questions.
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on c-span. >> this week on"q &a ," chief correspondent for the washington post covering his years in politics and actress questions from purdue university students. >> dan balz, what is the difference in reporting today for newspapers and back in 1972 when tim krause wrote his book, "boys on the bus." >> i not think of ourselves as being newspaper people anymore. the world has changed so dramatically that we are posting online, in print, doing video, doing so many different things today and doing it around the clock. i think it is a totally
transformed the business in that sense. sometimes i will refer to that i work at the paper but in fact, i have to remind myself that is not really the case. that is only one way that we are disseminated information. is a much more competitive world, much more fast-paced, there is less time for reflection and sometimes less time for reporting events which are moving so much faster. >> how would you compare the information we have today to back then? >> we know as much as we ever did and in some ways more. one of the challenges is to sort out what is important information to know and what is trivial. one of the things i worry about in the way we move so rapidly today is that it is hard to separate teh wheat from the chafe. sometimes people who obsess about this hour by