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human sacrifice come between her and her goal she was a determined woman and did talk about mr. lincoln's role of entering the white house. she was someone who was a true political partner. >> as we continue our conversation on first ladies, we hear from historians and authors. about the role of the first lady and how it it has changed. monday night at 9:00 eastern on c-span. next, prime minister's questions with her dish prime minister david cameron. recession, an exchange between the prime minister and ed miller brent on political campaign funds. john glen: if he will list his official engagements for wednesday 10 july.
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the prime minister: before listing my engagements, i am sure the whole house, and indeed the whole country, will wish to join me in congratulating andy murray on his historic wimbledon success. to become the first british player to win wimbledon for 77 years is a fantastic achievement and will rightly go down in our history books.
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this morning, i had meetings with ministerial colleagues and others, and in addition to my duties in the house, i shall have further such meetings later today. john glen: today, the government are setting out plans to modernize royal mail and to allow hard-working --
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mr. speaker: order. the hon. gentleman asked a serious question, and the secretary of state is trying to answer, but there is far too much noise in the chamber. let us hear the right hon. lady. mrs. villiers: the package includes top-ups for the peace iv programme and structural funds -- the retention of 100% assisted area status -- a major g8 conference in october -- measures to boost lending to business -- a 20 million investment plan for research and development -- agreement on the potential mechanism for taking forward further work on corporation tax devolution -- a commitment to a new way forward on enterprise zones -- a potential visa waiver pilot -- and a number of other measures. john glen: if he will list his official engagements for wednesday 10 july. the prime minister: before listing my engagements, i am sure the whole house, and indeed the whole country, will wish to join me in congratulating andy murray on his historic wimbledon success. to become the first british player to win wimbledon for 77 years is a fantastic achievement and will rightly go down in our history books. this morning, i had meetings with ministerial colleagues and others, and in addition to my duties in the house, i shall have further such meetings later today. john glen: today, the government are setting out plans to modernize royal mail and to allow hard-working -- mr. speaker: order. this is exceptionally discourteous. we have question 1. the hon. gentleman will ask the question and that question, and the answer to it, will be heard. john glen: today, the government are setting out plans to modernize royal mail and to allow hard-working postmen and women to own 10% of the shares. will the prime minister tell us what support he is expecting to see for this measure? the prime minister: i thank my hon. friend for his question. i think there will be widespread
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support around the country for modernizing this great public service, for getting new capital into the service and for ensuring that 10% of the shares go to the people who work for royal mail. remarkably, it was proposed by the labour party when it was in government, but of course, because the trade unions now oppose it, labour has to oppose it too -- fresh evidence today that it is still in the pockets of its trade union paymasters. edward miliband: let me first join the prime minister in paying tribute to andy murray for his fantastic victory -- following virginia wade's victory in 1977. it was a fantastic achievement -- he showed extraordinary determination, and the whole country is incredibly proud of him. as the government consider party funding reform, will the prime minister tell the house how much his party has received in donations from hedge funds? the prime minister: i am not surprised -- mr. speaker: order. the prime minister, i know, will want to answer the question put to him, and we must hear him do so. the prime minister: i am not surprised that the right hon. gentleman has this sudden interest in party funding. let us be frank: every donation to the conservative party is fully set out and public. let us be clear what this real scandal is about -- it is about trade union fixing of political appointments to this house, so when he gets to his feet, let us hope he addresses the 40 seats that unite has fiddled, and let us also hope he publishes the falkirk report and tells us hon. members: answer the question! the prime minister: labour members do not want to hear -- mr. speaker: order. i am always concerned about the rights of back-bench members, and they will be heard -- and if we run over for the purpose, because of this sort of conduct, so be it. they will be heard. please, let us have a bit of order and some
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answers.
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the prime minister: the problem is, they're paid to shout and they're doing nothing about it. edward miliband: i do not think the prime minister wanted to answer the question, did he?
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so let us give him the answer: the conservative party has received 25 million from hedge funds. now, next question. in the budget, the chancellor gave hedge funds a 145 million tax cut. can the prime minister tell us: was it just a coincidence? the prime minister: the top tax rate under this government is going to be higher than it ever was under the right honorable gentleman's government, but let me tell him this important point. there is a big difference between donations to the conservative party and donations to the labour party, and the difference is this: donations to the labour party buy votes at your conference, buy candidates and mps in this house, and pay for the votes that gave him his job. they paid their money, they bought their votes, they put him in his place, and that has not changed a thing. edward miliband: i will tell him what the difference is: 6p a week in affiliation fees from ordinary people up and down this country, against a party funded by a few millionaires at the top. and what is -- mr. speaker: order. mr. ellis, you find it so difficult to control yourself. i am sure you did not when you were practicing at the bar. calm it, man! get a grip of the situation! edward miliband: what is shameful about it is that the prime minister does not even know about the extra tax cut he gave to hedge funds. he says he wants reform, so i have a proposal for him. i am willing, as i have said before, to have a 5,000 limit on donations from trade unions, businesses and individuals, as part of a fundamental reform in the way our parties are funded. is he willing to do that? the prime minister: first of all, let me deal with -- honorable members: answer! the prime minister: i will answer. let me deal with 6p a week -- mr. speaker: order. we have got to listen in order to hear. the prime minister: let me deal with 6p a week. here are the figures since the right honorable gentleman became leader: 8 million from unite, 4 million from gmb and 4 million from unison. they have bought the policies, they have bought the candidates and they bought the leader.
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i have long supported caps on donations. i think we should have caps on donations, and they should apply to trade unions, to businesses and to individuals, but let me say this. there is a -- mr. speaker: order. there is still too far much shouting, on both sides of the chamber. the prime minister i think is concluding his answer. the prime minister: let me be frank with the right honorable gentleman. there is a problem with a 5,000 cap, and it is this. it would imply a massive amount of taxpayer support for political parties -- and frankly, mr. speaker, i do not see why the result of a trade union scandal should be every taxpayer in the country paying for labour. edward miliband: so there we have the truth -- mr. speaker: order. edward miliband: so there we have the truth: the prime minister is ducking funding reform. he does not want it to happen. let us test his willingness to reform in this house. current rules allow mps to take on paid directorships and consultancies, as long as they are declared in the register of members' financial interests, and members on both sides of the house abide by those rules. i say: in the next parliament -- this will affect both sides of this house -- mps should not be able to take on new paid directorships and consultancies. does he agree? the prime minister: i think that what matters is that everything is transparent and open. those are the rules we agreed. the right honorable gentleman made me an offer -- mr. speaker: order. i said a moment ago that the leader of the opposition must be heard, and he must be. the prime minister must also be heard. the prime minister: the right honorable gentleman made me an offer. let me make him an offer. if he wants change, there is a bill coming to the house of commons next week that will cover trade unions. if he wants to legislate to move from opting out to opting in, if he wants to give union members a chance to choose whether to donate and to vote on whether they should give to labour, we will legislate. will he accept that offer of legislation? yes or no? edward miliband: i have to say that the right honorable gentleman will have to do a lot better than that. he must answer the question on second jobs -- let me tell him and all the members opposite that between now and the general election, they will be subject to this test: do they support second jobs, new directorships and
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consultancies -- yes or no? that is the test. let us try the right honorable gentleman with another test. i say -- mr. speaker: order. the question must be heard, and the people whom i might have thought about calling to ask a question who are shouting from a sedentary position might just as well leave the chamber. edward miliband: as well as ending new directorships and consultancies, there should be a limit in the next parliament on how much people can earn on top of their mp's salary, as happens in other countries. the public would expect nothing less. what does the prime minister say? the prime minister: what is interesting is that the right honorable gentleman does not want to talk about the trade unions stitching up parliamentary selections. he does not want to address that, but that is what this scandal is about. let us ask what has actually changed since yesterday. will the unions still have the biggest vote at the conference? yes. will they still be able to determine the party's policy? yes. will they still have the decisive vote in choosing the labour leader? yes. those are the facts: they own you lock, stock and block vote. edward miliband: this is a man owned by a few millionaires at the top of society, and everyone knows it. here is the difference between him and me: i want action on second jobs -- he does not. i want party funding reform -- he does not. i am proud that we have links with ordinary working people -- he is bankrolled by a few millionaires. the party of the people. the party of privilege. the prime minister: it is not the party of the people -- it is the party of len mccluskey. that is the fact -- mr. speaker: order. we cannot just have a wall of noise. we need questions and answers. the prime minister: it is not the party of the people -- it is the party of len mccluskey. they buy the candidates, they buy the policies and they buy the leader. what is labour's policy on royal mail?
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it is determined by the communication workers union. what is its policy on health? it is determined by unison. what is its policy on party funding? it is determined by unite. it is no wonder that that the right honorable gentleman thinks like buddha: he wants to be reincarnated and come back as a proper leader. dr julian huppert: three quarters of a million british people suffer from heart failure, a condition -- mr. speaker: order. however long it takes, the question will be heard. dr huppert: thank you very much, mr.
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speaker. three quarters of a million british people suffer from heart failure, a condition that uses 1 million hospital beds every year. recent research funded by the british heart foundation has found that even low levels of air pollution can significantly increase the risk. will the prime minister commit to meeting european standards on
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air quality? if implemented, such a commitment could increase life expectancy by up to eight months. the prime minister: my honorable friend makes an important point about air quality. we have seen real improvements in recent years, and that makes a genuine difference to public health. important discussions are ongoing in the european union at the moment, particularly about car emissions, and i will perhaps write to him about our conclusions on those issues. paul blomfield: the government have diverted eu regeneration funds intended for south yorkshire to benefit wealthier parts of the uk. the chair of sheffield city region local enterprise partnership has said that the arguments of local business have been ignored, and that the decision will have a hugely negative impact on jobs and growth. why has the prime minister ignored local business leaders, and how can he justify allocating 34% more per head to cheshire than to south
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yorkshire? do not this government always have the wrong priorities and stand up for the wrong people? the prime minister: we have done a very fair assessment not only between the regions of the united kingdom, but between the nations of the united kingdom about how to distribute this money. we have distributed it in a fair way. if we look at yorkshire and humber, we see employment up by 11,000 this quarter and 86,000 since the election, but as the honorable gentleman is a member of unite, it is not surprising that he does not mention that fact. mr. mark spencer: does the prime minister welcome last friday's vote to give the british people a say on their relationship with europe -- a vote with a stark contrast, in that those in the labour party chose to stay away and squabble with themselves over fixing within the unions? the prime minister: i congratulate my honorable friend the member for stockton south on how he presented his bill on a referendum in the european union. there was unanimous support on this side of the house from the conservative party. what was noticeable is that although there was a 19-page briefing from the labour party like every other bit of paper nowadays, we find it lying around the house of commons -- labour members could not make up their mind which way to vote.
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nic dakin: does the prime minister agree with a former conservative treasurer that the money received from asil nadir is tainted and that the conservatives have a moral duty to give it back? when will he return that money? the prime minister: the honorable gentleman should start with the fact that his party has taken 1.6 million -- not a 5,000 cap -- from mr. mills and advised him how to dodge the tax. laura sandys: under the last government, communities such as thanet were left and abandoned on benefits. was my right honorable friend impressed by the thousands of jobs created in sandwich, london array and our jobs fair? this government are putting people back into work. the prime minister: my honorable friend is absolutely right. i was impressed on visiting thanet to see the jobs being created by the london array. it is providing jobs in shipping for seamen, jobs in engineering, apprenticeships -- it is a really important investment for this country, and we hope to see many more like it in the future. mr. geoffrey robinson: is the prime minister aware that there is widespread agreement in this house about the importance of investment in infrastructure and indeed widespread agreements about its job-creating potential? can he therefore tell us why, after three years in office, employment in the construction sector has fallen by 84,000 people?
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the prime minister: employment in construction is currently rising, and the recent news on construction has been very good. that is because we have an infrastructure plan, a fifth of the projects are under way and we have road building at far higher levels than it ever was under the labour government. whereas labour electrified literally five miles of railway line, we are going to electrify hundreds of miles of railway line. i note that the honorable gentleman does not mention the fact that he has been paying rent to unite in his constituency. normally, it is money from unite to labour -- in this case, it is from -- mr. speaker: order. i call mr. rees-mogg. jacob rees-mogg: is my right honorable friend aware that after yesterday's surrender of powers by the home office to the european union by bringing the
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european court of justice into the arrest warrant, the commission has welcomed it as pragmatic? has pragmatism overtaken the prime minister's popular desire to repatriate powers? the prime minister: the home secretary's announcement yesterday represents the repatriation to the uk of 98 powers. there were 133 items on the justice and home affairs list, which is a massive transfer of power back here to the uk. i think my honorable friend should welcome that. alison seabeck: a carer and her husband who has parkinson's disease were moved to a two- bedroomed property because she found it impossible to sleep when they were sharing a room. the cumulative effect of this government's welfare changes means that she is going to have to find an additional 1,000 a year. carers uk has published evidence showing that the discretionary payment scheme is benefiting only one in 10 people. that is the scheme that government ministers frequently pray in aid.
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was it the prime minister's intention that nine out of 10 carers should face eviction, debt arrears and bailiffs? the prime minister: let me make it clear that disability living allowance, the main benefit received by disabled people, is being uprated by inflation and excluded from the welfare cap. when it comes to the spare room subsidy, anyone who needs to have a carer sleeping in another bedroom is exempt from it. there is also the discretionary payment. [interruption.] labour members shake their heads, but the fact is that they have opposed each and every one of our welfare savings, and it is now labour's policy to adopt our spending plans. they cannot go on accepting the plans but criticising them at the same time. pauline latham: it is one year since the government suspended aid money that goes directly to the kagame regime in rwanda over the role that the regime played in supporting warlords and militia gangs in the congo.
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recently, the un confirmed that rwandan army officers are still involved in such activities. does my right honorable friend agree with me that those actions are unacceptable for a commonwealth nation? will he work with his international counterparts to ensure that those committing war crimes are brought to justice? the prime minister: those committing war crimes should always be brought to justice. i have raised the issue of support for the m23 with president kagame on a number of occasions. we need to bear that in mind in looking at our aid programme, as my right honorable friend the secretary of state for international development has done. i think we should also recognise this goes across parties in this house -- that british investment in aid in rwanda has created one
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of the great success stories of african development over the last decade. we should continue to invest in that success and lift people out of poverty while delivering a very clear message to president kagame at the same time. phil wilson: prime minister, how many jobs should an mp have? the prime minister: all members of parliament have the clearest possible duty to their constituents. let me make this point. do i think the house of commons benefits from people like the right honorable member for blackburn and his experience? do i think the house of commons benefits from the right honorable member for sheffield, brightside and hillsborough, who comes to this house with his experience? i think we do benefit. i am not sure that we benefit from my immediate predecessor, but there are opposition members who give good service to this house. greg mulholland: we are all celebrating andy murray's historic victory this week. the prime minister may not know that history was also made in 1954, when dave valentine, a scotsman, was the first man to lift the rugby league world cup trophy for great britain.
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the 14th rugby league world cup is happening this year -- the first major sporting tournament on these shores since last year's wonderful london 2012 olympics and paralympics. will the prime minister give it full support and will he come to one of the games? the prime minister: i was not aware of that important piece of history and i am very grateful to my honorable friend for bringing me up to date. i strongly support the fact that we are holding this tournament and will give it all the support i can. obviously, between now and then we have the small issue of the ashes, and it is important that we hold that as well. andy sawford: when the prime minister entertained the hedge fund owners of circle health, the private hospital company, to a dinner for donors in downing street, what did he promise in return for their 863,000 donation to the tory party? the prime minister: let me just give the honorable gentleman the
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figures: 8 million from unite -- 4 million from gmb -- and 4 million from unison. the difference is this. those donations -- they buy your leader, they buy your policy, they buy -- mr. speaker: order. i call jonathan lord. jonathan lord: does the prime minister agree -- mr. speaker: order. mr. lord's question must be heard. jonathan lord: does the prime minister agree with me that it is welcome that 2,500 out-of- work households in london can no longer claim more than the average working family earns -- a welfare reform opposed by the labour party at the behest of its union barons? the prime minister: the labour party has opposed every single welfare change that we have made 86 billion in total. people in this country,
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including trade union members, will find it inexplicable why the labour party thinks you are better off on benefits than you are in work. that shows that not only does it have the wrong relationship with the unions -- it has the wrong values, too. cathy jamieson: can the prime minister tell -- mr. speaker: order. basic manners would suggest that the question be heard. just as i said about mr. lord, so, too, i say that cathy jamieson will be heard. cathy jamieson: perhaps the prime minister can tell the house whether mr. aidan heavey's donations to the conservative party had any influence on the foreign secretary's intervention in his company's tax dispute? the prime minister: as i said, the donations to the conservative party do not buy votes at our party conference -- they do not buy votes for our leader -- they do not mean donors can select candidates. that is the unhealthy
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relationship in british politics, and the opposition can bluster all they want, but they have been found out in falkirk and they are being found out across the country. daniel kawczynski: every shropshire child receives 4,612 per annum for their education. in other parts of the country that figure is as high as 7,000, 8,000 or 9,000. this funding mechanism is completely unjust and puts shrewsbury children at a disadvantage. will the prime minister do everything in his power to help the education secretary change this funding mechanism before the unions try to block it? the prime minister: we agree that the current system is unfair, and my honorable friend gave the figures. we have committed to consulting on how best to introduce a national funding formula for 2015-16. we will consult widely with all the interested parties to get this right.
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that will obviously include all members of parliament, and i know he will campaign very hard on that issue. helen goodman: the tory chair of the treasury select committee has described the government's banking reforms as "falling short" and in some respects "virtually useless". is this the pay-off for all the millions the banks have poured into the tory coffers? the prime minister: it is this government who commissioned the vickers report. it is this government who committed to a ring fence around retail banks. it is this government who are legislating to have criminal sanctions against bankers. what did the last government do? what did those two do when they were sitting in the treasury when northern rock was handing out 110% mortgages? they were knighting fred goodwin and watching while rome burned. mr. david nuttall: on friday the town centre of bury will fall silent as the people of bury lead the nation in paying respects to drummer lee rigby,
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who was so horrifically murdered on the streets of woolwich. will the prime minister join me in paying tribute to all his family and friends and his comrades in the fusiliers for their calm and dignified response to their loss, and thank all those in the church, our armed forces, the police and public services who have been engaged in the planning and preparation for the funeral? created a calm and dignified response to their loss. the police and public services have been engaged in the demonstrations at the funeral. my honorable friend speak for the whole country and the whole house when he speaks about these issues. we should all pay tribute for his service to the country. i heard about it. i'm sure it will be a fitting service. the whole country will be morning with them.

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