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>> yes. my brother is from philadelphia and my other brother is from korea. i consider my real family. i actually don't have any desire to go back and find my roots. i would like to go to korea. it seemed like a great country. but my family is my family. so i am content with that. >> what is your current job? >> i am senior political reporter at "the huffington post." basically i spend most of my time reporting. but i also help said the editorial direction of the politics team. they don't have a beat here and so campaigns, congress, whatever
is going on, i have an idea or scoop onto my right about that. >> i read somewhere where you are evil. [laughter] what's that all about? one of the most dangerous in america -- one of the most dangerous woman in america. that is know what about. >> it is from the security matters group. >> i don't remember what it was about. but if you are spending your time before the huntington post to my was at the center for mac and i was working on a blog "think progress." it was a progressive blog. we would rebuff what politicians and pundits were saying and we didn't always make people happy.
>> i looked at some of the advisors on family security matters. a lot of names i didn't recognize. your 10th on the list good to want to show you some video that was recorded a few months ago and longtime veteran reporter for cbs and 60 minutes, basically talking about old media versus new media and the meet your take on this. [video clip] citizen and journalism. you need to work within certain discipline. i think many of these others give the real thing a very bad
name. because now everybody is on the internet. one of the problems i have with in terms of reading -- everything looks as valid as "the new york times," whether it is the typeface or the way it is , whether you are someone who believes aliens are out to get him or reading something from the opted pages of "the new york times," it all has the same look and makes the same visual sense. >> does he have a point? i talked with a lot of people who say that they are worried about the state of journalism now. i find it very saying to be in journalism now and it is a great
time for young people to be getting involved in journalism and groups of people who normally wouldn't have been involved in journalism. again, i grew up in a very small town. we had our local paper her. if we were lucky, we get the buffalo news. that was out -- that was about it. school, i was listening to npr and looking online and i have all of these of the resources because of the internet and because of new media. morehat started to get me interested in journalism. i have always wanted to come to washington. i saw this more as a possibility. agree, when you go on the internet, everything looks the same. i think that readers and new media consumers have become a lot more discerning. you read faces you trust. that is why a lot of times the articles we write, we do our own reporting, but maybe i will use a quotehat someone gave reuters were the washington post
and i will link to reuters or the washington post and give them credit for. byyou can read an article your favorite authors. they might say hey, good to andrew cell of an and see what is on his blog. your youhat i like start to figure out who you trust. absolutely, there are things i read on the internet, a blog i have never seen come i don't really know whether or not i should trust it. so i usually look into it a bit more myself. but that is what i like about new media. readers become more savvy and become more intelligent and it is a process of discovering and a much more assertive and interactive way of getting the news. >> who owns "the huffington post"? believe she owns it and we have part of aol. >> doesn't matter to you that
she owns it or runs runs it or at least she started it? >> she is still involved in the site and she's not one of those people who started a site and stepped back. workingeally like about with ariana and working at "the it isgton post" is that not driven by what will be popular or what will get cliques in the stories this -- will get clicks. doing storiesare on black america, stories that may not get all the clicks, but to that we feel are portant. people who are being pushed under in this new economy and are having trouble getting their food stamps, getting back on their feet after they left their jobs. like the freedom we are given at "the huffington post." you can write longer stories.
you can go more in depth gave you can combine that with video and new media. and give the reader a more full package. >> i have my ipad and it has "the huffington post" appear and a headline with one of your trademarks. this is a couple of weeks ago. what advice do you have -- there is so much information -- from page, politics, tech, media, world, healthy living, lifestyle -- how would you advise people on how to deal with this website? >> i remember when i first went to "the huffington post," i felt the same way. how do they navigated? a lot of people look at the front page and click on the stories from there. some people look at the top and say i am interested in politics or sports and maybe entertainment. finding and more, i am
people go on facebook and looking at what links there see. see -- their friends they will click on the story and then they discover "huffington post," through social media. >> i'm going to lunch this button here that says live. this is your television effort. what can you tell us about your television effort? how much are you doing with live television? >> it is basically streaming on our site all day long. much every topic, just like "huffington post," politics, sports, entertainment, the environment, everything. and you have posts in new york and l.a. ndc and we have reporters going on and note where the guests. but what is unique about it is that it is all done through
google hangouts. so we have community members, two. they can join in the conversation and asked conversations and get their thoughts as well. >> i am looking at something right now, for someone who hasn't heard of a glue will hang out, how does it work? >> you have a command that you have a camera on your -- so you have a camera on your computer and you have an account on google hangouts. >> it says you to be an honored guest. >> es. -- yes. >> what do you look at yourself? >> i try to look everywhere. my morning starts when i get the print version of the washington post. i still enjoy getting the print version of the paper because i
find that reading the newspaper you tend to read more. beyond that, i listen to talk radio and i'm watching c-span and cable news. i am going to as many new , looking at topics and people i'm following and interested in covering. so i am looking at twitter and facebook, everywhere. >> what is the number one issue you are interested in? >> i think that changes on a daily basis. right now, i am covering sequestration. it touches the country and the economy in some a different ways and i hear from a lot of people who being furloughed, who can i -- isone thing i researched
that something dominates next to your name almost all through the process. msnbc storyn old and get you to explain this. >> jesse waters and a cameraman ambushed her just after she checked into a hotel on vacation in winchester, virginia. they surmise that the two men must have stayed at her apartment and followed her car for two hours to the date -- to vacation destination. they asked her about her three- week told post. >> he wrote a blog of -- you wrote a blog about though andilly and you attack him the foundation and you brought a lot of pain and suffering to this group and what is your reaction? >> i was highlighting a comment that bill o'reilly had said. i don't remember attacking the foundation. >> what did bill o'reilly say?
>> i can't remember exactly what he said because it was a high ago. but i remember it was something having to do with he had talked about a rape victim and in a derogatory way that placed the blame of the rate on the victim. >> what else do you want to say about this event? >> that was march 2009. i was in winchester, virginia coming couple of hours away from washington, d.c. i never got an explanation for how they tracked me down. we tried contacting fox news and we never got an answer. on retrospect, my boyfriend and i remember seeing a car following is the entire time. thing is that they found my apartment and thought we were going to the store and followed us across state lines at virginia. was an unfortunate episode, i think, sort of a love for journalism. i had linked to a blog post by
another blog -- sort of a low point for journalism. i had linked to a blog post by another blog. i heard that he had said remarks about rape victims. i had never mentioned the organization. they never asked me for comment. a ambushed me when i was on vacation. i did not remember what i had written three weeks ago. the result was basically this. it rot a lot of attention. -- it brought a lot of attention. orn you're described as evil hurting rape victims, you don't know what attention that will bring. example, myor office locked its doors. they weren't sure what would happen. it ended up being fine. in part, i think it is because we knew that bill o'reilly said it would air monday evening.
i put up a post and got got a lot of attention and it wasn't just from other progressive loggers. it was from a lot of insert of bloggers who said that what he did was inappropriate. -- a lot of conservative loggers who said that what he did was an approach rape and -- what he did was inappropriate. so i don't think it went well for o'reilly. >> were you at the center for mac in progress? >> yes. i was a little-known known blogger and got a lot of attention for that. at the time, keith olbermann and bill o'reilly were in a few. keith oberman had me on his show . so i got a lot of exposure from that. the residual lasted for a couple of years were people say, oh, i remember you. i saw you on bill o'reilly show. i think that has died down but it did start a conversation
whether this kind of ambush journalism was acceptable. >> what is a lesson for you about all this? i think there have been seven different shows on this or seven different pieces. and bill o'reilly and keith oberman were calling each other names during the whole process. people watch it. >> yes, people watch it. from my perspective, is a good for journalism? i don't think it's a good when you don't like someone, what they write, that you go track them down without any warning to its not like i had been ignoring their calls. they never contacted me for, and. they never contact me to be on the show. -- they never contacted me for comment. they never contacted me to be on the show. it wasn't journalism. they want tried to get a real response from a. they were trying to -- from me.
they were trying to intimidate me during so for -- intimidate me. for a woman living alone and having two guys ambush her, it had anyshow that he sympathy for women who had been victims of rape. they did make me more aware and more careful. and when i speak to a lot of young journalists, young women journalists, i tell them that you should be aware. you should be careful. i monitor a lot of the e-mails i get, the hate mail -- i think getting hate mail is something that probably every journalist gets. but i keep track of them. if anything starts to repeat come i keep track of them and i tell young journalists that they should, too. >> you have a twitter account and a facebook account. any other ways that you communicate with people? >> twitter, facebook, e-mail, and my stories.
that is pretty much my remain -- my main ways. who is behind -- >> it is hilarious. it has nothing to do with me. fake person who is always angry at everything. >> and they seem to love to use a lot of language. >> you can't read it all on air. >> i can. where the f is this baby. just spoke to the royal baby. it wants to tell you you are unloved and you should f-ing die . and you know who the people are that are doing this. >> i do her. i knew when they were starting it, they pulled my picture and i said that was fine. it has honestly been hilarious. i have a lot of people now who
refer to me as turkel rage. a lot of people think that is my real twitter account. but that's not me. i am not angry all the time. looked i lock -- when i at it, but she must be behind it. >> now. it is very clever and angry. >> you want to tell us who is doing it? >> no, it's a secret. rage.t go into a i get worked up and i am passionate about the news and politics, but i am not like that. >> how we -- how do we know when you're being passionate? >> a comes across in my writing. again, i don't use that sort of language in my writing. but there is a lot going on. there are a lot of issues going on the people care about. hopefully, when we highlight those things, people are moved . journalism shouldn't be so removed are distant.
if society is wrong or lying, they should be called out. i don't think they should be given equal time with the truth. so hopefully that comes across in the writing. >> act to your roots at home, what did your parents do? >> my dad was a photographer. andid family portraits things like that. and he worked at the school as a teacher's aide for a. my mother works for what was a long time a local chevrolet dealership, in the office. >> where did you get your interest in politics? >> i don't know. grandfather, who passed away before i was born, was involved in politics. but i don't think it came from there because i never knew him. looked aboutme, i -- i thought it would be a high school he was teacher. but i took a field trip to washington and i really enjoyed eating in washington, being in politics. -- enjoyed being in washington,
being in politics. school, wein high had politicians come to our school and talk. so i went to those. so by the time i went to college, i knew i would be a political science major. washington inspired me. hopefully, it still does for some people. i don't know if it still does these days. >> how old are you? >> i was in eighth grade. >> what do you remember from that trip? >> a lot of it was fuzzy. we did a lot of the tourist attractions. we went to the white house, the capital, but i think just being around all this -- i ended up going back in my senior year for of the class trip and then i did a program called residential classroom which brought a lot of young people who are interested in politics -- called presidential classroom which brought a lot of young people who are interested in politics together. for me, it was really energizing. cemented itof what
for me. >> would you call yourself a journalist now or an activist? >> i am a journalist now. when i was at the center for mac and progress, it was a unique data center for american progress, it was a unique job. it was a nice mix. better -- but i really like the journalism part. i love talking to people, going to events, so when "huffington post kos quote had an opening for a reporter, i was very interested in that -- "huffington post" had an opening for a reporter, i was very interested in that. i now get to report and help edit and manage and i love it. >> do you know how many people come to "huffington post" every day? >> i don't. i luckily don't have to concern myself with that too much. >> recently, you were on a panel
ge 2000.id for activistsroup and bloggers, but there aren't as many bloggers. i was there on a panel. i was also there covering some speakers and events going on. i was there covering it, but i was also doing a panel. topeople understand how watch this news when they are activists and are involved. on the panel was with you for "emily's list." >> that is a pro-choice organization that is for women who run for office and are democrats. she is talking about the ability for people like her to influence the liberal press, let's watch which he says. [video clip]
>> progressive leaning, they are not part as an allies at all. there is no chance that i can call up anybody at mother jones to kill a story that was against democrats or pitch a story that was crap. those outlets have a reputation, but the journalism is absolutely solid and not slanted at all. and i think that is understood and respected by other journalists. >> should people watching believer? >> -- believe her? >> yes, absolutely. we have comments from harry reid, but we also have comments from mitch mcconnell's office. we have republican members who talk to us all the time. the same on the democratic side could we have people on both sides to hate us here in -- hate us. so we let the reporting speak for itself durin. there are many people i have run
into at tea party rallies who don't trust "the new york times." but if you really are reporting, it speaks for itself. on the screen -- you didn't see it -- a headline from earlier today on "huffington post." you see the two leaders there. who writes those? >> we have a team of people who writes them. usually, it is crowd source. they will say that here are some ideas. does anybody else have any ideas? but we have a team of people who run the front page and a team of people who run the politics page and they are responsible for coming up with headlines and making sure we have the breaking news emma making sure that all the pictures look great and writing headlines is an art that takes a long time to master here . >> if you write an article, can you write the headlines for it?
>> yes. sometimes they will change them. we know our stories better than anyone else. they may change them and accept them, but ultimately they -- but ultimately, it is our story. in the d.c. office, most of the staff is -- most of the staff is in new york. but in the d.c. office, there are about six people. moving instand you're this timeframe, but this will give people an idea of what it looks like up close. why do journalists sit so close together without any separation, without a cubicle, and how can you think when you are writing? >> we feed off of gathers energy. on -- we are iming each other. >> what does that mean?
>> we send messages to each other. but we also like to shout out ideas to each other. we like to talk. i could work from home, but it is more useful when i am in the office because i hear what everyone else's thinking and what everybody else is saying and i disney better ideas. i get betternd ideas. >> what is the average age of the people in that room? >> i don't know. it is a very young office. work in media who tend to be very young. it is what they have grown up with. even for me, i feel like i am getting a little older for it. people who are just graduating from college, they have only known social media and media online stuff. we don't have to teach them. they just know it.
>> here is video of you at that nation session where you're talking about video journalism. [video clip] >> if you go to your local members town hall and you get a great clip and you think "the huffington post was cooked with love that. post" would love that. send as much of the clip as you can. if you said here is something that a politician is saying something crazy put it up, i'm not going to put it up. i don't want to receive blowback and have a lawmaker saying that i am taking it out of context and i have no respect. >>@people than what you want them to do, send you the whole clip? >> i think people are learning. journalismd citizen and matt drudge at the drudge
report. i think those are different things. i wouldn't call matt drudge a citizen journalist. a citizen journalist is just people, not journalists. they are out and they see something interesting and the capture it on their phone and then they send it to reporters, and a lot of outlets, like "huffington post" and "cnn." you can write up something that accompanies it. you don't know who the citizen journalists are so you probably don't trust them. but if they have video proof, it makes it that much more compelling. -- if you sendt 10 seconds of what a congressman said and it sounds crazy, i don't think anyone will trust you. andif you have a town hall it shows what the congressman said and it is controversial, i think the media will take notice. or thehe front page homepage of "huffington post," here are all things ariana.
her upcoming schedule, tv appearances -- can get on there and find out almost anything that she has talked about in the last several months. why do you have that on their? >> people -- on there? >> people love ariana. she is sort of a social media wizard, i ache. -- i think. she has a great instagram account, twitter account, facebook account. people follow her. people are interested in what she is doing. she is always doing interesting things. she has interesting things to say. that is a way for people to stay updated with her. >> what gets the most attention? >> i think it depends on certain topics that tend to be popular with our audiences. things on guantánamo bay very popular with our audiences,
stories on drones, stories on ron paul, actually. i think there are a lot of ron paul fans out there looking for ron paul news. online, news about marijuana tends to be very popular. and i think that is why come up you see the president, for questions from people online, there is always a question in there about pot. they like reading -- mitt romney was obviously very popular during the election, things about obama and things about michelle obama. >> here is some video of mitt .omney that you will recognize everybody will recognize it. i will ask what you think of this kind of thing -- of what this kind of thing does to the whole discussion. [video clip] >> 47% of americans don't pay income tax.
>> it came from "mother jones," a left of center magazine. jimmy facilitated with carter's grandson, filmed by the bartender. good or bad for the system? and should he have gotten as bad a wrap on saying what he said? i don't like it and i don't think a lot of people like it, when politicians appear to be saying one thing in public settings and another thing in private settings to wealthy donors. i think that is why this video is so popular. voters don't like when they
think they're being lied to or if a politician is trying to swindle them. and what mitt romney said was not quite what he was saying on the campaign trail here in and that is -- campaign trail. and that is why it was so popular. i think mitt romney deserves the criticism that he received for that comment. portrayed a large portion of the american public in a very unfair and negative light. and it started, i think him a conversation on whether that was think, a-- i conversation with her that was accurate. and he got the -- andy got the attention it deserves. >> who tells the truth both behind the scenes and in front of the camera? if you look at it just as an observer, both sides, people are saying a lot of things that they are going to do and have done the opposite? so where do you draw the line? >> a lot of times, there are politicians who one side or the
other doesn't like. they tend to be more outspoken. a lot of those politicians, what they are saying may shock people in public, but they are saying the same things in private, which is part of the reason a lot of times they do catch on. fundraisers more, letting the public know when politicians are doing fundraisers, getting more media to those types of events, i think that is good and i think that those sort of things should be closed to the public just because they can pay the money to get in. >> who is your favorite politician? >> and history? history. be now or in give us the kind of people you have followed over the years and admired. biography byd a nancy unger about senator bob pollock am a republican from wisconsin am a known as fighting bob follett. i think has been named by his
peers as one of the seven greatest senators in history. he was incredibly it. i think some of his ideas were a little ahead of its time. he was not always well-liked. but he helped institute the eight-our work day, women's suffrage, rates for unions, the direct election of senators. he was unstoppable. he pushed for this is entire life. he tried to run for president and it didn't work out, in part because he could ruffle feathers. he pulled and always get along with him. he was very stubborn. and he said what was on his mind . by what he accomplished and what -- and his ideas led to fdr taking up his ideas. >> wells? -- who else? >> maybe not a politician was frances perkins, the first cabinet secretary.
she was fdr's labor secretary. it was a time when women tended not to be in public life. her biggest achievement was probably getting social security in place. she is just remarkable. >> how about today, people that you see today? >> someone i love interviewing today's bill clinton. everyone knows that he likes to talk to them he is interesting. and i have had the occasion sit down with him over several years . it tends to be in small group settings. any question you throw at him, how obscure, policy topic, he will -- he loves april. he will -- he loves people. he will opine long after his aides have tapped to their watches. and there a genuine curiosity for all policy topics that makes him a very fun interview some doubts any of you subject. fun interview subject.
>> you are in a pool. generally, one reporter is chosen -- they can't a lot of press in peer it was a small event, so they choose one reporter to go in and writing report on everything that happens. then you send it out to other reporters, the rest of the reporters on the white house press list. they couldn't either but they get to share it with all reporters and all news outlets get it. michelle obama doesn't tend to make as much news as her husband . so we went to a small back at fundraiser in bc -- in washington, d.c. she was saying standard remarks and there was a protester who was calling for equality for gays and lesbians. and michelle obama, not to dealing with protesters, stepped down from the lectern and
confronted the protester and basically said, if you want to talk, that's fine, but i'm leaving. other guests got very mad with the protester. it attracted a lot of news. it was an unexpected reaction from the first lady and it was unexpected that she was being protested in the first place. >> back to the netridge conference. this has to do with political opponents caught on tape. [video clip] >> and, if there was anyone , anyone whoo romney sold american bridge that are than i could or anybody who works for us, it was eric earned strum when, right after -- eric .yrnes strum -- eric bernstrum right after, he was asked, your guy did a lot of extreme wings in the -- extreme things in the primary.
don't you think that this will hurt him? and he said that voters are pretty dumb. that it is like an etch a sketch and you can just start clean. >> he's right. now there are groups like american bridge on the left -- >> that is a pac. >> yes, that is a super pack. they are doing a lot of research. they don't confront the candidate. they just videotape it so that all of their words are caught on tape. republicans are doing this, too, called america rising. so if it is at a tv show or at one of your events, somebody will see it. it will be caught on tape. when you run for office down the line, someone will bring it up. i think we saw that voters are not forgetting. todd akin had a very controversial comment about race and he wasn't able to shake that
off. >> we have that comment from todd akin. we will remind our office with this was all about. [video clip] tubalan abortion was pregnancy, what about rape? >> people want to make that is one of those things, well, how do you slice this ethical question? it seems to me what i know from doctors, if it is a legitimate rate, the female body has ways to shut that whole thing down. let's assume that didn't work or something. i think there should be some punishment. but the punishment should be the rapist and not attacking the child. >> what did he say wrong? >> what he said was scientifically inaccurate. a woman who has been raped cannot just decide to not get pregnant that is physically impossible.
"legitimateused rate" as if those who are raped are not telling the truth. i think a lot of women reacted to this. he is someone who's trying to set policy on women's reproductive rights, yet he doesn't doesn't seem to understand how the female body works. democrats had been saying that republicans are waging a war on women, trying to legislate too much on abortion and access to contraception. and this did not help republicans. todd akin was never able to recover from it and he lost the senate race. >> richard murdoch from indiana had a similar controversy. here's what he said during the campaign. [beta clip] --[video clip] >> i know that some disagree. but i believe that life begins at conception. i struggled with it, but life is
a gift from god. even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, it is something that god intended to happen. >> what did he say wrong? >> he was basically saying that raped and women to be that these babies are gifts from god and that they should not be aborted. had gotten so much attention, because todd akin had already made that of the comment. theirk people throughout hands in exasperation, even republicans, the more candidates were saying things like this. it was basically hurting them with a lot of women voters. >> why do we constantly talk about abortion and rape? since i have been in this town, every year, it is an issue. >> that is a great question. i have no idea. we hear politicians say they
will focus on the economy, that it will be there were number one focus, then we hear about some lawmaker who brings up a bill to defun plan parenthood, to ban abortions after.any weeks --y the ash after 20 weeks. to ban abortions after 20 weeks. there are antiabortion lawmakers who feel they have to push this and a lot of it is happening on the state level. many republican lawmakers are rushing this legislation. much --ot saying it as we are not seeing it as much on the federal level anymore. but in the states definitely. >> what do you think will happen in 2016? >> i turn it to make those predictions. in terms of the senate, the republicans have a good chance of taking seats from democrats. there are three seats of democrats that are retiring and
it looks like they will go to republicans. thathere are three or four a republican that looks good for democrats. landscape looked good for republicans in 2012 and they lost seats. so it is too early to predict. fromknow it's early, but the presidential side -- >> in 2016, right, that was 2014. 20 16, it depends whether or not he'll are clinton runs. if she runs, i don't think you will see other democrats run. in terms of republicans, i don't know who will want to challenge her. i think many republicans will realize that she has a good shot and they may want to take her on or they may decide to wait until maybe she's not running or maybe she loses and they have a better shot. if she doesn't run come i think the field is wide open. republicans have a lot of young stars on their side here i --
their site. democrats have a couple. a much wider field, sort of a wild card. >> where do you think this whole business of communications will be in another 10 years? >> i wish i knew. i would invest and start something. see the loss of print journal -- trent journalism. i am -- the loss of print journalism/ journalisme national isn't as good if you don't have the local journalism. is watching, i do reading local and state stories, seeing what is happening at that level and figuring out how it is bubbling up to the national level. so if there are not people on the ground doing that sort of work -- because i think national
journalism suffers quite a bit. so i hope someone figures out a way how to keep that sustainable and to keep those people in place. more socialill see media were people don't go to the website, news outlets as much, but simply see stories being shared by others, by what their friends are talking about go that waynd news instead of going to these four websites here in -- website. some internships. you work for senator shuman. -- senator schumer. what did you learn there? get a loted that you of callers who have a lot of strange concerns sometimes. in i really loved working the buffalo office because that is where you got to interact with the constituents directly.
people needing very small things, just a call to the senator's office, that could get their paperwork expedited and that was very gratifying. people would come to the obvious and thank you for your help. callust getting a simple saying what is the status on this can make the world a difference. it was nice to see these constituent services at work. >> what did you do with the new york attorney general? >> it was actually very similar. a lot of times, people would have problems with businesses or companies and they would write in with their complaints. >> who was the attorney general? >> elliott. -- eliot spitzer. so we would look into these complaints. we might make a call. we might send a letter. a lot of times, these things were resolved once they realized the attorney general was working.
again, i was an intern. it was not at a high level, but simply making a phone call, sadly sending a letter could make a world of difference for this people when they aren't -- when they are waiting for some sort of resolution for a long time. elliott you think about it's her running for governor and stepping down -- eliot spitzer running for governor and stepping down? >> it disappointed a lot of people. -- at the samet time, he is a very effective attorney general. he helped to turn around that office hearing april really love but he did here and he aggressively went after wall street. some people may be willing to forget what he did on the personal side because they like what he did in public life. we'll see. there are a lot of cases out there. people are waiting to see if
they are ready to trust these people based on the public record. >> if you are married and your husband did that to you, what would you do? >> and terms of how i would react to -- for example -- i think that is a tough as russian for the spouse to be in. we -- tough position for the spouse to be in. honestly, i can't say and i don't want to pass judgment. these political spouses get judgment passed on them. like hillary clinton, how could she stand by bill clinton after he did that. you can say --nk and you can judge them without being in a position -- instead of knowing what the relationship was, what they went through. so i could not say it without being in that position. >> a lot of people think that this country is in store for a bad time when it comes to the
money and the deficit and the debt and all that. what do you think? >> i think there's too much attention put on the debt and the deficit. sequestration, it helps the deficit and the debt situation, but is it the best thing to do? is it really good to kick people off the headstart roles in order to lower the deficit a little bit? obviously, at a time when the economy is not doing that well, people don't have jobs, cutting back on the spending is perhaps not quite what has shown to be working rather than more stimulus. that washington gets wrapped up in the debt and deficit and doesn't look beyond that what is happening with the rest of the country and the effect this is happening on the ground for people who have no jobs and can i get on their feet and can i government benefits that were there for them as a safety net there -- and cannot
get on their feet and cannot get government benefits that were there for them as a safety net. you are always a little bit worried. i think people want to do better than their parents did and you whopeople who have friends cannot find jobs, family members who cannot find jobs and you're not immune from that. and you are not immune from that. journalists have a lot of friends who are reporters were getting lost desk a laid-off. their papers are folding. photography staffs are being laid off here and so as a reporter, you are watching that and are very concerned. family, you have a korean brother who is adopted, an african-american brother who is adopted am a mother is jewish and your father is christine. vah when yout mitz
were 13, i assume. all?ou face prejudice at and if you did, was yours different from your african- american brothers prejudice? >> i can't speak for what he went through. i think, yes, there is some prejudice. thinkof times -- and i this is something a lot of asians come through -- people come up and start speaking gibberish to you as if he can understand it because it sounds chinese can you get people who come up to you and assume you can't speaking this properly. and you get a lot of that. it is mostly ignorance. it mostly doesn't really affect my life. i think being a woman and being in politics and journalism, you also have to deal with some sexism. people making comments that simply, for example, congress when steve cohen said the other
day to a female politics reporter when she asked him a , you're verysaid attractive, but i am not going to speak to you about that today. how she looks should not come into play. a lot of male reporters don't have to deal with that. and that is what i tell a lot of young female reporters to be -- beof your -- appear of aware of. graduate, near04 the top of your class at colgate. here is the question that a lot of people would ask. but answered once and for all. is studs terkel your grandfather? >> no. i think, on my dads side, he may don'ttally related, but i know exactly what it is.
but he is definitely not my grandfather. >> did you ever study who he was? >> i read some pieces by him sharing i don't think i studied i read some pieces by him. i didn't read anything by him until college. >> where will you be in 10 years? >> i don't know. i think it's great. i don't want to know erin >> do you want to be apologists -- do you want to be a politician or a journalist? >> i love journalism. the politics section is a great place to go. appreciateerkel, we you very much for joining us. >> thank you.
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