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will assess president obama's strategy to combat the terror group isis. as always, we will take your calls and you can join the conversation on facebook and twitter. "washington journal" is next. ♪ host: well, the news out of london this morning is that the british prime minister, david cameron, has summoned his military and security chief for an emergency meeting. this in response to the beheading of british hostage and the threatening of another. we want to get your reaction to this late execution killing of a hostage by isis. what should happen next? m accredits this morning --
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host: if not by phone, you can contact us using social media. here is the photo, courtesy of the associated press, published in "the washington post" this morning. and all to type of -- all-too-familiar type of photo here. a britishing of hostage, he is 44 in his name is david haynes, a father of two from perth, scotland. this video, titled "a message to the allies of america," opens with david cameron talking about working with allied kurdish
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forces to to sleep -- to defeat the islamic state. "this kurdish man has to pay the price for your decisions, cameron." the man dressed in black with a british accent stands over haynes, shown kneeling and wearing an orange jumpsuit. the video then shows the beheading of the kneeling man. "anotherd of the video master and is shown and they say he will be killed if cameron continues to support the fight against the islamic state." david cameron came right out with this tweet last evening saying "we will do everything in our power to hunt down these murderers and make sure they face justice, however long it takes." they are again meeting right now, today in london, with security chiefs to decide the .ext steps forward
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here is one headline -- "cameron in emergency talks after killing of david haynes." what do you have to say about this latest chapter in the story involving isis? paul, wisconsin, you are up first. good morning. caller: i hope today gets pregnant -- britain to come along with us. host: come along how? caller: with their military. these murdering parasitical plugs need to be killed. it is just disgusting that there are people on the earth that are breathing the same air as everyone else that are like that . that's just disgusting. i hope they help the u.s. in killing these murdering thugs.
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host: how did you feel about the president's comments the other night about the direction the coalition might take? pose a question anyone, i think the caller is gone. james, grand forks, good morning. good morning. i wanted to make a comment, talk of all, i wanted to about fox news pincus liked by so many people who don't talk about things that aren't pleasant. there was a story of a guy, an all-american boy in new jersey .urdered by three black muslims they were debating whether this was a hate crime or an act of terror. it is funny how with ferguson we spent weeks talking about that, but we don't talk about the kid. i don't even are member his name.
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maybe you guys can talk about him. i have talked about this before. the seven to 1755, years war, the french and indian war, going back to the conflicts going on in europe, the building up of militarism in world war i -- we halted migration from certain areas that were hornets nests because you just didn't bring those people into our country. during world war ii, you know that we didn't have ellis island opened for italians and germans. we were fighting them. could you imagine roosevelt giving a speech like obama or george bush, saying that we are fighting a small militarized person -- version and that the german people are peaceful and wonderful -- which was by the way true, the majority of japanese people were peaceful, it was a small group that took control. you didn't bring in people from
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the countries we were fighting. you halted migration. 100 years ago in 1914 we halted emigration from germany because it was just a stupid idea to bring in germans. we had saboteurs turning world war i that were german-americans that were blown -- blowing up ships and railroad ers ash railroad yards. he hunted down saboteurs with the fbi. even the mafia helped the fbi root out the germans. i final point, you halted migration from terror friendly countries now. just for 10 years. we have 7 million muslims. we have enough diversity. let's halt the visas from those countries. the point. want to get some other views in here. president obama reacted to the beheading last night. we strongly out -- "
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condemn the barbaric murder of david haynes -- host: a little bit of congressional action, this from california -- is on the line now from cleveland. what is your reaction to this latest execution? morning, sir. isis should feel all the might
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of the united states. they are horrible. they are evil. they need to feel the full might of the united states. what is that might? just airpower? ground troops, perhaps? sir, i at this point, think that boots should be on the ground. u.s. that question about airstrikes, you hear so many different perspectives. to john mccain and the other republicans, i think that boots need to be on the ground. unfortunately, war is not something that mr. obama wants to go through, but i think it is necessary to wipe those people off the face of the earth and they need to be dealt with. thank you. james, your reaction this morning? caller: good morning. yes, i'm calling.
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i just want to say to the haines family -- i am sorry, i give my condolences. but this might wake up prime minister cameron. he was kind of slow. he pulled back with obama when he went in to get assad, you know? i think that obama needs help. he can't do it alone. the airstrikes are good, but these other countries need to come in with the boots and go and get these young guys. these are like thugs. young guys with weapons. take away the weapons, slap them on their, they will be ok. thank you for calling, james. we will get some excerpts there once we -- once it is over with. to our facebook page, we have this reaction --
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host: frank is on the line now. thatr: my thoughts are when we see these beheadings, the only thing that they understand this fear. just like when saddam hussein was in control. they feared him. and i am so sorry that we have doesn'tistration that devastate them of bombing attacks.
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they have parades. get have groups that together. we should be devastating them with bombing attacks. not one or two or three. leadership,e the i'm sorry to say. the world doesn't trust us because the administration says and doesn't follow through. joyce, good morning. michigan, reaction this morning? caller: as the mother of a son veryid time in iraq, i am concerned about this. as a teacher it seems to me that the more attention that you give these people, on television and on media, the more they're going to do it. so, take away the attention.
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take away what they want. up, get ticked off, do this stuff, throw the money into it. do in michigan -- someone commits suicide? we just say there was a death. we don't play it up. there are copycat things. we don't give them attention. you've got to withdraw that. take the attention away. don't give them what they want. host: that was joyce in michigan. gary writes -- back here in the u.s., the "washington post" has a front-page story about something being discussed throughout washington. "how big of a threat is the islamic state?
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host: al has been on the line from castle on hudson, new york.
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good morning. i have a couple of issues with this. one, we are always hearing about cyber crime, breaking into the banks, stores and all of that, why not use cyber crime tip steal the money that isis has, destroy all of their black-market oil resources going to turkey, and have the saudi's and the qatar ends and all the rest of them that have been feeding the tiger, hoping that it wouldn't eat them, have them finance all of this. when they start stepping up to the plate, then i will believe this is a worthwhile endeavor. , we allas in vietnam knew it was not going to work out because it was just a rice bowl to these troops. bute are some good ones,
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are there enough? i am disappointed in the iraqi army to turn tail after we spent $25 billion and thousands of lives getting them in shape. they turn and run? that only shows me that it was just a rice bowl to them and they have no guts. host: to thomas and glenn and eight, maryland. your reaction? glenbrook, maryland. your reaction? hearing david cameron, on and criticize other countries invading a sovereign country when britain has been in northern ireland now impressing and imprinting catholics over there for over 100 years, he is a world-class hypocrite. there are other western countries to ignore the occupation of northern ireland and are just as much hypocrites as cameron is. as far as isis, i am more
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concerned about these black thugs that might come down to my city from baltimore and attack us. thank you. host: kathy, alpine, california, and your reaction to this execution? it is devastating, terrible, but the reason i'm calling in is i don't even know why we are in all of these wars anymore. seems like they are corporate wars. talking about attacking and doing things like that? the point is getting out of them completely. there are other ways to deal with this man have this constantly on television every day. thank you. more voices from congress -- steny hoyer, who will be our ."est today on "newsmakers here is a short piece from the
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half-hour interview about how congress should address threats from islamic state militants. [video clip] the two-step process is what we will pursue. there will be a consideration from the presidents request to train and equip regional players -- that is, people who are from syria, from iraq, and from other middle eastern countries, arab nations, who i will think be the boots on the ground that people talk about. be the facilitators, the supporters, and yes, we will help to coordinate a large coalition that the president and secretary of state are now putting together. significant number of nations to have already indicated they want to participate. theink that that will be first thing we will consider. probably and hopefully next
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week, that is, authorizing the insident to equip and train an overt way as opposed to a covert way people to take on isil. secondly, i think at some point in time when we come back after the elections i think that there will be a consideration of a larger authorization for the use of force. that is just part of the interview with congressman steny hoyer, our guest on "newsmakers" today. the meantime, ruth marcus writes a piece in "the washington post" about congress. "don't duck this vote, congress." we are not quite sure what will , or when, anything but she writes the following --
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host: mark, hyannis, massachusetts, good morning. caller: good morning. host: what is your reaction to his latest execution? caller: it is obviously horrible
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that this happens in the first place. but i think that a lot of this problem with isil, isis, ,hatever they are known as now when they started out in syria they had the backing of the free syrian army. read -- i don't know if there's any truth to it, but maybe assad let these guys do their thing because maybe it made a pact or something that they wouldn't go into damascus or something of that nature. that thereigured out was nothing left in syria for them to conquer, they just went over the border. the previous caller from new that then he mentioned iraqis lay down their arms and had all this firepower, it sounds like they did so because they had a lack of trust in
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their government. i think that is a big part of it. if you don't trust the government and don't have faith in it, why would you die for it? thanks for calling. fred, you are up. thank you for taking my call. this is obviously a horrible situation. but in this case i agree with steny hoyer. i don't know why we have such a short memory. during bill clinton's presidency, we defeated serbia with air power alone. not a single soldier was on the ground. we don't need boots on the ground. think that isis is any more powerful than the serbian army. we defeated the serbian army in the 1990's. it took six to nine months, but bill clinton was resolved and he stayed with his resolution.
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we defeated serbia with air power alone. i don't know why people can't remember this fact. it is not rocket science. host: x for calling. sorry for cutting you off there. didn't mean to do that, but you are finished with your point. wartime for this topic in a couple of minutes, but we want to take a step off to the side to talk about politics. there is a very big event happening in iowa today, something we are covering at 3:30 p.m. eastern time, hillary and bill clinton making a joint appearance. this is actually her first appearance there in many years. this headline was from "the des moines register." "hillary clinton, looking back and forward." kate henderson is the news director at radio iowa and joins us by phone this morning. good morning. caller: good morning. this happening today?
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the harkins steak fry? a pretty big event, no? caller: yes. organizers told me yesterday that ticket sales in advance were about 7000, so perhaps about 7000 people will gather to hear bill and hillary clinton, as well as tom harkins and his swan song. he is not seeking reelection. host: give us a reminder. explain for us the history of hillary clinton in iowa and what she is hoping to accomplish. who may havehose forgotten, she ran for the nomination in 2008. in the first contest she finished third. barack obama won with about 38% support. john edwards was in second. you just mentioned that she hadn't been here for several
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years. actually, the last time that she was in the state of iowa was on caucus night on january 3 of that year. this will be her first reappearance in the state. merely coming here has raised all sorts of speculation about her residential intentions and 2016. actually, many people just think that being here is really all she needs to say, if you will, about those intentions. the: we are looking at headline here from "politico so, people feeling pretty good about her in iowa right now? she is the prohibitive favorite here, as she is nationally. there have been a parade of other democrats who come to the state and made statements like jim webb, that we need to have a broader conversation with more people coming to iowa.
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martin o'malley has been actively working the state, if you will. back to the 1980's, gary hart he worked for as a campaign organizer. said the same sentiments as the former senator webb. we need to have a broad conversation and the way that one does that is by having a multitude or more than one candidate seeking the party's nomination. if she runs, she could have someone challenging her here. we will have live coverage starting at 3:30 p.m. eastern time. put on by senator harkin in iowa , the 37th and final senator harkin steak fry in iowa. you mentioned the crowds, the several thousand people. how does the event play itself
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out with the clintons there? well, they actually serve steak. it's grilled. but what people go for is having a pep rally no less than a couple of months out from the election. tom harkin will serve up assert -- a series of one-liners. the punchline will be republicans. a little bit be different. there is always a bit of a tight rope that headliners at this event have to tread because this, of course, is the tom harkin steak fry. it is an annual fundraiser for him. so, by how much do you upstage the host of the event? and this, of course, as you have been speaking this morning about to someone inned britain, this will present her an opportunity to talk about foreign policy.
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perhaps a platform from which she will be able to launch her presidential bid. i think that what -- with what has happened internationally, she can really address it in a way that will be different than it would have been 24 hours ago. i don't think that people will expect her to differentiate or draw clear distinctions between her andign-policy objectives the obama administration's current objectives, based on what happened. thank you for the preview harkin37th and final steak fry. appreciate it. caller: sure. live coveragehave later today and be re-airing it later. particularly the speeches by the
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clintons. going back to the topic at hand here, the execution from yesterday by isis, who put out a video claiming to have beheaded a british citizen, the third westerner to have met this fate in recent weeks. we are getting reaction this morning. doug in ohio. good morning. caller: hey. first-time caller. host: the you for waiting. what is your reaction to what happened? caller: it is unfortunate, it is a difficult the operation -- difficult operation, but i also believe it was his choice to be there. basically, this is a holy war. we need to get focused on the fact that this is a holy war. americans -- those callers out there, those around the country, those around the world, to begin to do it with
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their money on their time, just like the man who risks his life to go over there to fight this cause. we need to get focused, quit being a coward, and if my money and thoseo over there fighting against them, i can find me commission or a ministry that can do such and such. that's my comment this morning. thank you. the line nows on from foley, alabama. hello. thank you. caller: i want people to know -- people have to understand that foley will be finished. west,wer from the treating islam the way that it is, it is not a religion the way
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they are treating it. the comedian bill maher, editor's name is, he had a piece on real clear politics where he talks about that. he absolutely got it. were doing it -- everyone thinks they are radical. they are not radical. there is no such thing as moderate islam necessary as there is moderate economies him. this won't go away. people are living in a fantasy world. just the idea, delegitimize that idea. spoke moredent obama about this yesterday, the u.s. strategy against isis, during his weekly address. [video clip] >> our intelligence community
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has not checked and specific plots, but the leaders have specifically gone against the united states. they could pose a continuing threat. so, we are staying vigilant and moving ahead with our strategy to degrade and ultimately destroy this terrorist organization. to meet a threat like this, we have to be smart and use our power wisely, avoiding the mistakes of the past. american military power is unmatched, but this can't be america's fight alone. a ground war in the heart of the middle east would not serve our interests and would only risk fueling extremism. what is needed now is a targeted, relentless counterterrorism campaign that combines american air power, contributions from allies and partners, and more support to forces fighting these terrorists
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on the ground. that is exactly what we are doing. we are moving ahead with our campaign of airstrikes and are prepared to take action against isil and syria as well. helping iraqi and kurdish forces with training, intelligence, and equipment that they need to take the fight to the terrorists on the ground. we are working with congress to expand efforts to train and equip the serious opposition. provide theinue to humanitarian relief to help the iraqi civilians who have been driven from their homes and to remain indexed in danger. a word of support for the president by twitter. one viewer writes -- i love seeing a president taking his time to do it right instead of a bunch of theatrics, rhetoric, and doing it wrong. i'll -- wrong." some 40 years ago there
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was a mass murderer named charles manson. think americans were barely aware of the middle eastern problems or anything. -- blow up the middle east and make it a parking lot. this was a long, long time ago. i just wonder if anyone else remembers him saying something like that, to blow up the middle east and make it a parking lot. that was back in like the late 1970's. host: why do you bring that up? what is your reflection? caller: i didn't even know where the middle east was, i was mybably at my 20's -- in 20's. for ameone like that, mass murderer -- you probably remember those murders -- to say something like that, it is so
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interesting to me and no one else seems to -- i have asked other people of they have ever heard that. i wonder if any of the other viewers ever heard of charles manson saying that, even 40 years ago. host: thanks for calling. from the ap this morning we have been reading about potential for coalition by the u.s.. turkey is in the news this morning, the big muslim power that sits atop the conflicts in iraq and syria. they might be expected to take a in the nato coalition, but they told allies that they will stay quietly behind the scenes, "declined the use of nato bases or territories for launching air attacks. l.a. are looking for some kind of behind the scenes role, nothing out in front. australia is reporting this morning that they will contribute up to 10 military aircraft in the accrued -- increasingly aggressive campaign
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. robert, washington, d.c.. good morning. for taking myyou call. i'm a first-time caller. what has happened is horrible and shocking, but so is what we did in iraq. we killed hundreds of thousands of people, trash the country, we want to criticize them, but we should also criticize ourselves. george bush and dick cheney should be in front of international criminal courts. sandra, good morning. hello? are you there? caller: yes. my feelings on this coverage of the beheadings? turn on theup and tv, the first thing i see? if i feel that way i can only imagine what the families of
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these people feel when they turn the tv on. i understand you have to cover the news. but you are giving them what they want. they want you to put it out there. they want to see it over and over and over again. need toou news outlets tone it down just a little bit. in your view, what does toning it down mean? caller: talk about it, don't continuously show the picture of the sky ready to cut the skies had off. that is what they want us to hear. when you do it over and over, people talk about these stories for two or three days.
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host: ok, we get the point. tony writes on facebook -- host: bunny, you are calling from parsons, kansas, good morning. i am going to change things slightly. i want to know what happened to ont plane that came down that long runway in malaysia. i think that strange things are going on in malaysia. overould they dare to fly a potential war zone?
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i don't understand what happened to the black box. we know that those pilots were probably isis people from the united states. black boxes in their homes that they knew how to dismantle. i'm sure that they did. what happened to the 100 chinese on that plane? we don't know. i really think that we are living rather strangely in this sontry with our fbi and cia bottled up that they can't make decisions right now. what is the election about? i don't think they know why they have been elected or why they are even running. it is just amazing.
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thank you for calling. we want to get some other viewpoints in. reaction tois your the latest execution? what should happen next? caller: that is what the vc used to do, you know? the orange soldiers. it is like cancer, you have to go in and kill them off. we need boots on the ground, sir. we really do. that's the only way you can do it. we napalm them and they came out like rats. you can do only way it, sir. right, appreciate your comments. in "congressional quarterly," they wrote about the denies -- .he demise of intelligence
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they write "the president's comprehensive, envisioning a us-led coalition of nato and sunni arab allies dividing up duties against enemy positions, training and equipping moderate syrian rebels and armed forces. they go on and on, but they say the strategy is suffering from a crippling lack of reliable on the ground intelligence in their self-declared caliphate." bill from friendship, maine. good morning. just because someone says something, that does not mean it's true. how many times have we been lied to? i completely agree with the hague.
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why are our allies the ones that keep us in the game? why not show pictures of the women and children instead of one man that -- like alex jones talks about. a false flag is something -- i am concerned about. ok, bill. john, sterling, virginia. we have to learn something about what happened in iraq. every time we invaded country and destroy a military, it will lead to chaos. in iraq we get rid of all the military and we support the people that have no accountability. we are going to have something like this. this is a leap year right now. that youin was saying see what is going on in a leap
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year right now? the chaos? them each right now, first of all we did not support the people they tried to get rid of. we did not destroy the military. do that, those countries will survive, but i am getting tired of turning on my tv and seeing people asking john mccain for advice. people who vote on the it were -- on the iraq war, no one should ask their device anymore. what we are looking for right now is the same thing they're doing in syria. there will be chaos in those positions. to help and go after the other side.
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we will be there for long time. i pray to god that no one in the media invites john mccain as an expert -- or anyone who voted on the iraq war. you should be ashamed. ok.: kenny, your reaction to all of this? this war, the war that we were banging together in the end, these beheading videos occurred in the original iraq war that we are never going to win. host: are you suggesting the u.s. not get involved? should no chance in hell we send ground troops. drones?use go ahead, use drones.
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and not going to sit here support extremist islam or anything. i am a proud libertarian for 10 years. i woke up a long time ago to realize that our government controls both parties. generationomer created a lot of these problems by voting for these politicians and for not even excepting responsibility themselves. i just know what's coming. this is a can of worms that we are now going to unleash, far greater than al qaeda. it is true that they could come to america, go to the u.k. or anywhere else in the world. i just think that if we get involved in such a war again
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after not learning a lesson over beingst 10 years after lied to, essentially, by our own , what youd media promote, whether it is "the washington post," "the new york times," or -- we understand your point. time for one more call. mike, what would you like to say? caller was last completely right. i would like to see this end. , am tired of the talking heads these people, cnn hires them, you sit there and wonder, if an employer hires that person for such company, creating
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chaos, you hire them back to tell the american people how things should be -- what is thehost: end, in your view? caller: the crimes ago on a daily basis, the people that we tv,, standard headings on this right here should be handled by countries immediately affected around isis. even israel, lebanon. these other countries that directly affect their interests. what are they? i agree with the last caller. they were an army that dropped their weapons and now i have friends that will be barbecuing on sunday.
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they are sitting there and watching these guys shoot at us with weapons and treasure. it just shows that we arm these people and, guess what? they drop the weapons, they turn on us. point,this proves the giving them no credibility anymore. the first time that saddam invaded kuwait, we had a coalition with everyone going against saddam. after that we did the george bush dance and that ruined it. that ruined it. you couldn't reach out anymore. we need to stop. we need to think about america. people need to think before they vote. all of these promises, this and that, we need a third party. speaking of voting, we
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will talk about the 2014 midterm elections. david winston, a republican strategist, jim manley, democratic strategist, and later in the program we will talk to a the americanm university about president obama's isis strategy. we will again take a short break. be right back. ♪
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not only how they use it, but how they think about it. and the access to it. that it be free and open. anyone one, no isp or should be able to interfere with that. >> monday night, 8 p.m. eastern on "the communicators" on c-span two. >> "washington journal" continues. guests heree two the sunday morning. one of them is david winston, a republican strategist. we also say good morning to natalie, a democratic strategist . we appreciate your coming by. let's start with a broad question about the election. jim manley, what is this election about? nost: jobs and the economy, matter how you slice it. foreign policy, obamacare, the
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bottom line is that for most of the american people it will be about jobs and the economy. host: what is the message on the democratic side? guest: the economy is getting better, we still have a ways to go, but the policies implemented by this administration are beginning to work and things are looking much better than they had been in years past. on the gop side, what do they see as the reason for this election, what is it about? guest: it's about the economy, no question. it has been the overwhelming driving issue. when it comes down to it, it is the economy. while things have gotten slightly better, that is not what the american public wants. that is their debate, as jim is discerning here. how well the economy has improved or not improved, that is central to what the american
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people want to discuss. what the campaigns are doing is a different story. lines are open for our two guests. will talk for a few minutes while you start calling in, then we will get your calls and tweets as well for our two guests. we have just under one hour with our two guests. david winston, jobs and the economy. who is winning the message? what do voters want to hear? there is a question in the survey, they called the generic ballot. closeve seen them pretty with democrats slightly ahead. as being
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but we are also just beginning this process. this week the speaker is going to lay out a big economic speech, his biggest address. i'm sure the democrats have a plan as well. having said that, i think that one of the challenges for the campaign is how to make the number one issue the number one issue. or will it be about something else? if it is not about the issue they care about the most, what does that mean for them? host: jim? guest: eight to say it, but i agree with much of what jim said. i would not write democrats out of it right now. if you look at the most recent polling in "the wall street journal," and "the washington post," pretty much across-the-board some of the numbers were not looking well, but as we are about to talk about i think in the end the democrats have a good chance of
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, despite theenate sturman draining out there. now that labor day is over and campaigns are kicking in, we will see how it all plays out. see in terms you of the all-important fight for the senate? guest: the stage could not be better set for republicans. unfortunately for democrats, the playing field is naturally more republican. having said that, you know, you have to win campaigns. it is not simply just a good not playing field. i would suggest that certainly the standing the president has with the country is not helpful anthis point, you have electorate looking for ideas, they're looking for something different. going to say? looking forward what will be the crux?
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taking advantage of this unique opportunity that they have. in fromm is calling ohio for our two guests. go ahead. to wonder --d like i cannot understand why over the years i have voted republican, voted democrat, i would love to vote for a republican, but they seem to have the old school values. they seem to not value women's opinions. they seem to want people to work for less than minimum wage. they seem to want to be the party of spending now. they want to spend on wars, but they don't want to spend on the poor people in america. republicans look to me they are -- like they are heartless, like they are supposedly the party of evangelicals but yet i often wonder if they believe in god because jimmy carter said that a country that believes in god,
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shouldn't we take care of the poor? the republicans look to me like they are selfish. host: david winston? that's not anly attitude that permeates broadly. the challenge here, this gets back to the economy, if you help everyone in this country have got to get the economy moving. i think that where there is a difference there is a sense on the republican side that having done the things that we believe need to be done to get the economy growing, that is going to help not just simply women, hispanics, younger voters, it is something that is going to broadly help the entire country. until we get to the point where the economy is growing, frankly the rest of it is band-aids on an unresolved problem. i couldn't have said it better than the last speaker. there is quite a tussle going on within the republican party about how to move from here on forward.
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smart ones understand that they need to adjust, need to try to broaden the base to appeal to different constituencies, but there is a core in the party, especially in the house, dominated by the tea party type that are running roughshod over that party. 2012ld have thought in that they would be slowly losing juice on capitol hill, but by all accounts they haven't. teddy from baltimore, maryland, you are on the line. thank you for taking my call. i quickly wanted to say that when george bush and hank paulson work out the deal for 785 billion dollars coming out of the economy to support the cost of the war, there was a mathematical -- i guess i would call it a mathematical algorithm
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in which a certain amount of automatically cap the profit line up to their stockholders. been achieved,s creating more volume is slow going. individual there, we are going in the right direction. it is not any faster than the they came from the last administration. out a little bit, but do you want to take that one? guest: i am not sure the algorithm he was referring to. it is something we will never forget, let's just leave it at
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that. this is why jobs in the economy has been such a consistently huge issue. but the country went through in it is something that is in fact very viscerally felt by most americans. when we talk about ready economy goes from you see a level of sophistication from the american public that is very remarkable . to understand what the employment rate meets. they understand the concept of underemployment and people level of the work force. they also agreed is not where it needs to be of we are going to deal with the problems facing this country.
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derablyto consi improve. morning is this david winston and jim manley. we have been talking about jobs and the economy for a good 12 minutes. we do want to bring in isis and threats against the united states. the president made the big speech this morning to my 61% of folks think that military action is in the interest of the united states. to what extent would isis and airstrikes and potentially expanded action play a role in the election that is around the corner? myself down and how i'm oblique and see how that plays out.
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here's what i do know. and some of these polls that have come out in the last week, and they have not reflected to well on the president. itorability, approval have down when it comes to leadership. he has lost points, some of the issues including foreign policy, there has been a dramatic swing. what i said after the president's speech i still believed to be the case. besides this situation he has in, almost to the on that he made the decision syria, the anniversary of 9/11, a unique yo opportunity. , thes made his decision american people to date very much support it. we will have to see how it plays
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out on the campaign trail. then again, it is a situation that the president has an opportunity to seize and to raise his profile back again. there was a piece about not talking about -- d ucking the vote. the timing may not be optimal, waryongress is ever of taking hard votes. to cede power. authority once wondered is that much harder to reclaim -- squandered is hard to reclaim. and does not club close to jobs and the economy, but it still has increased. moments clear defining in this particular situation.
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a call to action in terms of the american public's response. so having said that i believe this is an interesting opportunity for the president and for congress to be focused on the country. not arguing policy, when the president said he could do this without congress that was not a good sound. i think this is an opportunity for him to get congress behind him and work together for the country. i think he congressional leadership will respond to that as well. this particular issue, given to happened, it is no longer a partisan issue. host: foreign policy is a wildcard the u.s. midterm election, a recent piece out of the wall street journal.
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prospect of a vote or no vote in congress. the fact that i am a 21 year veteran of the senate believe that it is good as an institution, i am also going to give the president wide powers when it comes to foreign policy. having said that if i think there will in fact be some sort of those sooner rather than allowthat will in fact the president to claim support from congress. to be clear about what i'm talking about, it will not be an authorization to declare war, but the vote will be probably as an amendment to the cro or as a freestanding hell that is all being debated right now about whether to authorize support and funding for the syrian rebels. being thecr
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continuing resolution that continues to fund the government. we are looking for final action this week. alan come in scottsdale, arizona. caller: t y. here is what i want to say. this election is about the constitution and the rule of law. you are so far from the truth. i and the tea party person, i believe in the tea party. i have gone through a lot of things. i've had my first business when i was 22. i know a lot of things. and one of the things that i know is that the republican party does not have a message. formessage should be s this election is that we are going to reduce the cost of living for every american and the way we do that is through energy. we become the number one energy producer in the world and once
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we lower the cost of gasoline to a dollar a gallon we win. you andthe thing about the democratic party. when it comes to just recently we find out that he asked -- the fdic who handles the banks is now doing operation crash on businesses to lock up their business account and literally not allow them to you have a bank account, that is how far the democratic artie has gone. when you look at benghazi, when you look at the cia, when you every one ofsa, these institutions is an indoctrinated by the democratic party. host: let's get a response. energy production is at an all-time high.
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oil production is booming. we are considering exporting natural gas for the first time in years. gas is in fact dropping. it will continue to drop. i think benghazi is a phony, made up controversy. i have high regard for the intelligence community. -- explains a tweet the rise of the investor class over the worker. guest: i am not sure i agree with the fundamental premise of that question. let's take a look at north dakota talking about energy. an arctic gutty do not need a minimum wage of $11 because a average person can walk into a mcdonald's and make $14.
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that is what is happening when you have a vibrant economy. there's a big difference between the two parties: think republicans need to be a lot more aggressive in terms of making some expansion in terms of looking at new energy sources, looking at lorax duration. more exploration. that is critical as we move toward the fall election. and there's a slightly different approach -- i shouldn't say slightly, a pretty significant one. it is a point of distinction that we would like to make. host: jackie calling from idaho. caller: good morning. thank you for c-span. inlong as our congress is perpetual reelection, and you have to have an millionaire to run for office, it is never going to be right. they are not working for the people, they are working for
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themselves. the less person that was on is just so dead on. i could not believe it. servant, ined civil and it to work state, have been voting for over 40 years. this has just been the worst eight years, well starting with just wish wewar, i would come home and take care of our own people and really get serious about term elections. we could probably maybe turn this, our government back around to where we have our state ghtsts of fact -- righi back, and a person can start from the ottoman work their way up -- from the bottom and work their way up.
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agree moreuld not that politics is broken in this country. it is very and setting to be as an american and also as someone who spent a lot of time on capitol hill to see a breakdown in partisanship. that is a reality. my real problem is that it do not be forcing mechanism that will unlock the different lot. -- i do not know the forcing mechanism that will unlock the gridlock. i agree that the system is broken. it troubles me greatly, but they do not have an answer at 8:00 in the morning on c-span. the system is broken in a way that is not helpful to the country. where i think it is occurring is
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that the actual political discourse that we see in campaigns that this white is not the discourse that the american public wants and terms of how to resolve problems and how to move forward. i think at some point in time the people that are respective political advertising need to responsiblyg for the low brand images of both parties. americans have an unfavorable view of the parties at this point command that is because of the discourse we are engaging and in. we want to go to colorado for a short clip where they are .unning this ad here's a look. [video clip] gardnero guys like cory think it's their business to tell women what to do. it is not their decision, it is
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up to women. >> that is extreme. cory gardner is wrong. >> way too extreme for colorado. let's get a reaction from our guest. it is an interesting add-on and interesting point that is not jobs and the economy. here ishe challenges the challenges facing women. these campaigns are about who is going to be worse as opposed to is going to be better. and that is why the american public is frustrated. congressman gardner got
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himself in a bit of a pickled by supporting a personhood amendment, and he is been trying to himself out of it. beyond that he brought her matter issue -- broader they believe that the way they will keep the senate is to appeal to women. hate tolem is, i keep harping on that poll script that a couple of polls have suggested that why more women are moving away from the democratic party and toward the independent city republicans as well. it will be an ongoing issue. it suggested that the lock that democrats had any bandits that they had is disappearing.
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-- and any advantage that they had is disappearing. wee one win in 2010 from women never when the before when you had the majority. part of it is are all sorts of issues that are important but there are those that rise above that. as we said before, jobs and economy does that. host: what senator a steal each of you think is most interesting -- what senate race to each of you think is most interesting. a caller from aiken, minnesota. sayer: i was just going to to the republican mayor of what i am most concerned about is this tea parties death i think the tea party came to washington declared war on our government.
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they are making sure that our congress can't even function. -- theythat is just declared war on us. host: what do you think? the tea party is inaccurate group in how they emerged. what you're watching is a movement engage and try to figure out how to politically affect change. something within the party movement decided that the level of fiscal responsibility they are looking for is that they did not want to find anything. there are others who are tried to figure out how to work within the fish -- within the system. there are some successes come with some failures, this shutdown was not very good for the republican party or the tea party. thathere are other moments
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have been good. so there is a positive outcome. host: is there anything that have surprise you with the primary results with these races? guest: montana, obviously, a punch to the gut. and what is going on in kansas. we will have to wait and see how that plays out. quite frankly in light of the president's current approval ings being where it is, i'm pretty surprised and happily so that these are all very competitive races. which one you think is the most interesting? guest: arkansas. there is a really interesting dynamic.
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you have a very popular and it is governor, very clearly a republican state. mark pryor has some books that -- some votes that are difficult , and it is difficult to pull away by any stretch. think that is an example of the republican message, people understand who mark pryor , and we're waiting to see what the opposing messages. is. colorado good because her flicks to it a surprising degree of the changing demographics of the country and where it is going. on a policy level colorado, at your knuckle brawl, louisiana. accounts they are having
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a runoff on december 6. ast imagine all the attention book is that will be paid to that on where we are with the runoffnumbers and the numbers. and it is going to be pretty crazy. never underestimate the senator. azyt: it will be a cr fall and c-span will have 100 or more debate on the air. you can keep watching the networks and look at us online for all of these debates between a have luke on the line from columbus, ohio. good morning. caller: i just want to say that i would be very disappointed if the republicans win this election. if the president failed the country will fail.
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the republicans say that they are going to make president one term president, and they have --[indiscernible] it takes one day to destroy a building. but if you want to rebuild command is going to take you months. that is what is going wrong here. john in jonesboro. caller: i would to ask why we destroyed the voting rights act limited went out and the right to vote. i think there is some controversy within the party with the the voting rights act. i happen to be in support for a variety of reasons.
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having gone through and restricting back in terms of -- through redistricting in terms what they were doing so that they could spread out the vote. and being able to allow people elect a representative of their choice. we want to get another ad on the air. this is from this number from the state of the decade. the gop minority leader mcconnell released this against his democratic challenger. [video clip] obama's dekeing candidate allison grimes repeats
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falsehoods. mes, andeds grind content tvs mitch mcconnell. host: is health care much of a factor? guest: quite frankly did not need to be a target clients -- rocket scientist to cut ads right now. barack obama is not popular within the state. having said that come as you may or may not know, senator mcconnell has been the last two
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years taking to the floor daily to watch one broadside after another against obamacare. so i'm not surprised he is doing so in the ad. the problem is that the health care program inn kentucky is working, but do not let the facts get in the way. in 2010, everybody talked about obamacare. 63% said the economy, 18% said health care. those who set up get invited democratic. care the right issue for him to focus on him to focus on demand it should have been jobs. and 10% margin people are just not fight -- dissatisfied.
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they gear that act is that it opens up people to listen to what the republican is going to think about it is half the argument. this is why this person has not done what you think they should be doing and now the second half of that should be and this is what i'm going to do. it is halfway there. host: frank in pennsylvania. caller: i was a republican the party has moved away from the. me. what particular issues? the board.oss i am a small business owner. the republicans are trying to site solutions to a demand-side problem. isnly had drops when there
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-- jobs when there is demand out there. -- with to be food dical, etc.,me and all we're doing is subsidizing these companies. if you raise the minimum wage committee basically do things pro-wages so you get the demands up. and that is the biggest issue that any business owners facing right now. of them are so
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reflexively republicans that they do not see that issue. guest: he points to something say is a central economic issue and that is tax reform. there is a huge issue where corporations are starting to leave the country, when are purchasing an overseas company and then trying to center their headquarters over there because we have the highest business tax rate in the world. and what is beginning to happen is that businesses are b leaving the country. we need to create new products, we need companies that are thinking of that next generation of medical devices that we just put a new tax on. it will make it that much more difficult,. or that new generation of technology that we also have the highest tax on. if we cannot put as the products of the country once, you cannot if we cannot- produce the products the country wants, you cannot have demand.
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guest: i am willing to agree that tax reform is crucial to the future of this country. i see it is but republicans are stuck on so-called revenue neutral. hoping that next year we can do something on tax reform. host: don from ohio. guardians of peace. policemen, we are guardians of these. peace.
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host: catherine and new york. theer: my comment is progressive system of the democratic party. they're making everybody poor. some of thing they have the wall street banks are getting rich command reveals sufferers. i also want to know if you ever heard about a couple weeks ago --[indiscernible] democrats keep making people floor. poor. ouest: i have twp
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respectfully disagree. we found our stuff on the precipice of one of the worst financial disaster since the great depression. we were in a bad place as a whole. policiesdent enacted as quickly as possible to rectify the situation as we have talked about earlier. it is getting better but not nearly where it should be. disparitiesill huge between the richest 1% or 2% and the middle class. it has been a long-term trend that is only worse and needs to be addressed. let me put immigration on the table for each of you. no action this year, i do not know if that is a surprise or not. what is the impact on the election that there is no action, no comprehensive bill? guest: if there is direction at
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this point, it is a level of frustration of trying to get to a conclusion on an issue. this is an issue that has been on the table at a significant level from 2005. we are looking at 8-10 years. it is not so much specifics in y, sense of does it do x or we need a policy, we need an ability to go forward. one of the dynamics this year is no matter what policy we put into place goalie cannot even enforce it. if it was the most liberal policy, the most conservative policy, we cannot enforce it. and that is an important first that to be able to do anything. because he cannot get to consensus means we cannot get to that first step. let me answer the question like this. thing i will
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be watching after the elections in november as the president moves to make his executive order. how did those who are considering running for 2016 for the republican nominee, how do they react? i predict that all of them are going to wildly denounced the president's action, and some will throw in some infantry rhetoric and i respectfully suggest that will not be the way to win the presidency in 2016. how we got there is a whole another story. but the question is what is going to happen in november. all of those considering running for president in the republican primary have a nasty habit of overreaching. host: alabama where john is waiting. thatr: i just want to say war with the
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with thens -- more republicans. line upcrats do not with my beliefs. understand what the general one from pennsylvania was saying as a small business owner. the taxpayers and that has been levied upon us, the godlessness that exist within this administration. the abortion centers. the lies that are coming out of the irs. it is unconscionable. host: will you be voting this november?
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absolutely.will the reason i ask is usually because the independent vote is a little bit lower. talk about that. if you look at exit polls, traditionally the independent vote is slightly higher. and the reason for that is what you have in terms of residential years is soft republicans and some democrats are associated they thinkrty and they should go vote. if you look over time, you see of them voting. more recentlying is the rise in the independent. as a committed democrat
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and someone who wants to receive the senate remain in him a hanscom i am petrified of the idea that turnout is going to be low, that republicans have more of an incentive to come out and vote because they see the opportunity around the corner. just hope the democrats realize what is exactly at stake. and they keeput the incumbents that we need. host: beverly. caller: i have a question for the gentleman that is a democrat. president say that he would lower the corporation taxes if the republicans would give up some loopholes? complaining that the
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president is not doing anything to help this country. there have been different offers to try to negotiate on the tax reform, but they have all fallen apart. most recently 2011 with the negotiations of the white house, where the republicans walked away from the table. yes he said that, but it is also true that republicans have been unwilling to follow through. supportent agreed to with leader pelosi and senator reid. but as part of a global effort, ,ut they agreed to accept those
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and republicans can never do the deal. host: david winston? guest: i could say it was not republicans walking away for the tip of the bike is a was disagreement as to what was on the table. walking away from the table, there was disagreement as to what was on the table. republicans wanted to make that a net neutral in terms of income. butive up the loopholes, you lower the rate so there is a neutral impact. caller: on the illegal aliens, the only ones that i see is , and some ofts
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these republicans. the american people are sick of these illegals. they took all the jobs and obama's going to give amnesty to four 5 million of them. play nine people are out of work, and he's going to bring people in. they think they're going to improve the economy when the two goal of these american jobs? guest: i am not sure i can say anything that can advance the conversation. the idea that they are taking the jobs is ridiculous. if you look at study after study theyshows that in fact improve the economy to bring these folks out of the shadows and make them more productive part of the society.
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it is certainly a flashpoint for controversy. at some point we're going to have to wrestle this to the ground. the current system we have is broken. guest: i agree. host: the wall street journal has this headline. as election hopes grow, parties are planning strategy to avoid brinkmanship. to get taken were over by republicans what do you see as the agenda? guest: focus on the economy. they have a jobs plan that they were putting together and they about line that. -- have outlined that. there are some key elements,
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whether there are differences between the two. that those contrast, that reflects more favorably on the republican side. we have susan from boston on the line. couple ofhad a points. one, i voted recently in the for the primary for the upcoming midterms. again i was just appalled and dismayed at the turnout of only 12%. i live in one of the most educated and upwardly mobile. the average home starts at $1 million in the city of austin. lack think this nationwide of turnout and participation in the dock democracy is the root of some of these issues. host: why think 12% where you are? becausei think it is
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you have people under the age of educatedre not in civics and the responsibilities of citizenship. love twitter, they love pop culture, but they do not read mainstream media. and they really have lost complete faith in the system. conductply are able to their lives, oblivious to it. it is like our democracy is on cruise control. 's herep to the analyst who are fine men commit is up to the candidates and campaign people, thea few hard-core voters of like this. the other point i want to make is i angry about the republicans and the democrats of the therdly avoidance of
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elephant in the room. we need to fix the tax system. it is shocking to me the extreme wealth that is generated by wall street that is not filtering down to the broader society. --hink it is because of the the inversions are part of the inversions are part of this lack of patriotism. if you have a whole country that does not vote and cares about being a participant in the democracy, why should corporations care about the democracy that enabled them to grow? they are beholden to their shareholders of wall street. host: response? in terms of the turnout, with the younger voters commit is not that they are uneducated. the dynamic is they are slowly learning and getting engaged in
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the political process. it takes a cabal of election cycles to begin a part of it and know how to engage in it effectively. by the time that they are 30 it is full engagement. the nl lead that i would suggest is that voters want to go in for -- voters want to go and vote for something. they were to go vote on this issue are that issue. but they're not being offered that. they are being offered the situation of who is going to be the least worst senator, congressman, or governor? what sort of motivation to he'll have a is a voter to engage in a process? susan voted for .teve here agai
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with everything david said with regard to voter turnout of especially the part about the alternatives sometimes are not palatable. question, i would like to see the tax good name are progressive. i cannot deny that. the problem is that on something like carried interest we have not been able to get it done in recent years. host: last call, from south carolina. caller: i am a disabled veteran. how people canee support republicans when they do not support a living wage, they shut down the government, costing them over $24 billion, and they refuse to renew unemployment leaving people in soup lines. they refuse to penalize companies for moving overseas.
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they shut down family planning centers. have a situation where the republican governors with24 million people out refusing to extend medicare. and many have people like lindsey graham and mitt romney talking about going to war when they do not have any children in the military that would actually be shellshocked or damage doing that more effort. in terms of the economy, how do you take care of people hunting of people employed -- how do you get people employed? we have a vibrant economy, when have less regulation committee do not need a minimum wage because you are looking at wages of $14 to $15 instead of $11.
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do not artificially increase the ninth labor, you have to figure out a way to make labor more valuable. how does that individual become more valuable in terms of the wire output -- workout but that they generate? that is the challenge. guest: i'm not quite sure what to say. i think that the minimum wage -- i agree with everything the caller just said. ien it comes to minimum wage, have in a big fan of it for many years. for government to try to stimulate the economy, there's also plenty of space for private business as well. host: our guest for this roundtable have been jim manley and david winston. the wiper coming out and joining us.
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-- thank you for coming out and joining us. we looking at her drink and then we'll talk with an american university dean about president obama's issa strategy -- isis strategy. ♪ >> monday night on the communicators. california democratic representative, ranking member subcommittee talks net neutrality. >> i talked about what i thought we should do. we have had discussions of the
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committee about it. this is all about net neutrality. people in our country feel very strongly about the internet. not only how they use it but how they think about it. and the access to it, and that it be free in that it be open, and that no one should be able to interfere with that. night at 8:00 p.m. eastern on the communicators on c-span two. >> washington journal continues. table now is the dean of the school of international service at the american university here and easy. in what did you hear from the president wednesday night command what docs biggest -- night, and then
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what do you see as the biggest challenges? he was to destroy integrated the organization command that will be hard as we have seen through other parent or patients. the biggest challenge that he faces right now is putting together a coalition both are in respect to the airstrikes and also on the ground that can actually accomplishes objectives. this cannot be an american operation against this organization. sameuld be back in the kind of problems with a previously where we are going in and it is and we're the focus of their rage. we really need these partners on the ground. host: who are the partners and the challenges in getting a coalition together? guest: we're looking first and foremost at the iraqi government
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we're talking about dealing with the isis in iraq. reaching out to the sunni's and the kurds. and then you have a hodgepodge of levels that are fighting against the regime. not beenom have reliable supporters of the american policy. host: what is the reliability or what can i get from these folks? here is one headline. of oiling to start isis
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revenue, they are seeking assistance from turkey, and to turkey says they do not want a loud and visible role. they do not let their citizens harmed when you see something like a british aid worker being brutally beheaded and then having met video shown, if you're a government like turkey and do not want your citizens put in the same kind of situation. host: our guest will be with us for about another 40 minutes or so. from james goldgeier american university. the phone number is on the bottom of the screen. we have a separate line for , democrats, and independence. we have a fourth line for those international. we will continue to take our tweets this morning. the president did not mention the u.n. in his speech the other day. health important or not
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important as the lead right now in this issue -- how important or not important as the u.n. in this h issue? guest: you have countries during this group and the impact on their interests. i think striking that the united that represent the global body is nowhere to be found. we have not gone to the united nations for authorization in the presidenthas yet gone to congress to seek authorization. host: what do you think will happen in congress this week? is always wary of having to be put on the spot and for good reason. if you look back at recent examples with respect to iraq, and january 1991, senate votedats who
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against a very popular gulf war had their fortunes damaged and were unable to run in 1992. voted againsthad the war really trouble when they voted against obama. we have some callers. caller: is there any possibility that these execution could be staged? authenticating? have no reason to doubt the authenticity of this. it is just a horrible tragedy for the families involved in up
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paradedheir loved ones out and brutally murdered in nner is horrific. it is why the natural instinct is that we have to do something about this. went to find these perpetrators and eliminate them before they continue to do this. that is what you have seen the reaction earlier from the net and states and the american population with respect to the t debonair can -- to the two americans. and now you see this outrage in the united kingdom with this murder of a british citizen. god bless c-span for the safety of america. my point is i would like this gentleman, i did not catch his name -- .ost: james goldgeier audience,plain to the
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he mentions the u.n. and little bit, why have we not called an emergency session of the ad is -- united nations security council. why are we allowing the current use this part to three the threat to our national --urity to force the iraqi
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they were not formally organized to the terrorist organization. they are not terrorists. they are not espousing the beliefs of the terrorists. it just seems like we are talking in circles around this problem. it is going to destroy the safety and the humanity of what we are living. i would appreciate you talking about that. guest: i think that first of october should point out with respect to a rack itself, we do have a new iraqi government, we have a new iraqi prime minister. and they were challenge is whether that government can be more inclusive than it has in the past. in order to bring the sunnis into they do not feel alienated. with respect to this threat of national peace and security, a broad threat like that threatens a variety of countries inside
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the region and out as it has been trained -- portrayed, that there would be a role for the unit is the and the united nations. permanent five members of the security council commanded if the united states is not confident in the response russia ands like china commitment not want to go to the security council. russia has already been complaining about the illegality of this effort without the approval of the security council. but with their movements and he claimed it is a turner's that rings rather hollow. movements in ukraine it is a charge that rings rather hollow. host: what makes you think or
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feel that way? guest: there is nothing that makes us expect that the government will be inclusive. we have tried to support the iraqi government over recent years and trying to help that country rebuilt, there was a lot of american effort going into that. and a lot of the challenge was in keeping sunnis and shiites and kurds together in a common enterprise. what we typically find when we use of u.s.about airstrikes in the week of seen this before and iraq and afghanistan, we have seen it in other places. ps on the ground use these for their own purposes. they have agendas and the vendettas against another. they use our airstrikes for
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interests that are not in line with ours. host: a tweet -- guest: it is an interesting question. theses had not taken actions against the t debonair two americans, you would not see such popular support in the united states for doing something about it. action did not take this against the british citizen he would not see the support within the united kingdom. from their perspective, they are arguing that this is in response to our actions against them. i think their hope is that they scare the american population and the british population and others. and there for two earlier, the
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turkish government is trying to keep us as far in the background as possible with respect to turkish citizens. they are trying to send a message, and they have sent a message. host: we go to a color in ann arbor, michigan. regardsi am calling in previous segment and this segment. i appreciate games coming on to help people understand the situation. what we really do need to address is a very difficult find conflict of ahis lot of defense contractors ever since resident barack obama has claimed that the iraq war has come to an end. we have defense contractors waiting this war and our name, using our tax dollars.
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president obama is attempting to get title x authorization to of a billing dollars to these moderate rebels which they are fighting alongside these defense contractors who do not have to abide by any the convention law and who do not have to follow the rule of law. our foreign policy is only going to be something of a follow-up.
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stuck back in to a major war in iraq after all. he won the presidency.
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by opposing the war that george w. bush initiated. he won with his promise that he was going to get the united states out of the wars he inharried, afghanistan and iraq. the narrative is changing. he is going back into iraq and learned his skuccessor will remain in iraq. it will be a 5th. he is not going to have troops on the ground but he's going to be trying to use this smart air power with coalition partners and partners on the ground to work together to defeat this group. but this is going to be a tough road. >> the latest execution, this beheading of the british aid worker in syria change things from the british perspective? >> well, i think it certainly would provide prime minister cameron with more popular
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support a and one of the notable features about what we saw with the speech and the aftermath, typically one might expect we would put together a big coalition before a speech and then move forward if you go back to the first gulf war, you saw those months of preparation, george h.w. bush, secretary of state james baker putting in a coalition going in to the young, going to congress and then fighting the war. in this case, we had the president's announcement. and what we have heard since that speech is a lot of -- not a lot of strong support from those that we might have wanted to get it from. we talked about turkey already. we saw soon after the speech germany talk about not participating in strikes? syria. we saw secretary kerry in egypt yesterday. not a lot of promises from the egyptians about the support they were going to provide. so a lot of talk wednesday night
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about this coalition and a lot of signs after about how difficult that's going to be. >> let's hear from lawrence calling from england, welcome to the program. caller: thank you very much. my question to professor goldgeier is: do people in america have any fear that there are people going from america to the middle east to join in a jihad. we hear about people from britain, the continental europe, australia, many other places, but do american resident muslims never indulge in this sort of thing? host: host: lawrence before we get an answer, i want to ask you what the mood and the news and the follow-up is like following the execution yesterday. caller: well, i think people are still taking in the news but they do say it is a terrible event, especially the man killed was a humanitarian aid worker.
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he was definitely not a politician and he was not a soldier and, of course, he was not a journalist either. so that makes the crime particularly bad. host: thanks, lawrence. how about his question? guest: we have known that there are more folks from places like the u.k. and elsewhere on the continent who are going to serve in these conflicts, but there are, also, americans earlier, the president had estimated there are about 100 or so who have gone to fighting these conflicts and the big fear, as you point out, is that, then, these are individuals with british or american or australian or other passports who are then better able than individuals who are from the middle east. they are better able to come back and carry out attacks in
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the united kingdom or the united states. i think this is probably one of the largest fears. when we try to estimate: what's the actual threat a group like isis poses to the american homeland or to the british homeland, there has been a lot of debate about that. there has been certainly a lot of hype from the administration about the threat that could beposed probably most notable from secretary of defense hagle who talked about the direct threat to our interests. but others have said, you know, it's not really that they can so much carry out attacks on our homeland but the fear that our citizens who have gone there are going to come back and do things or carry out attacks on airliners coming back to europe or the united states. holt hoecht hoeft. host: good morning. michael. caller: go morning. host: what's your reaction to this? caller: my reaction is very
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angry but i am not going to keep that anger stoked as i am talking to you guys. what is happened is really horrendous and disgusting and, you know, we definitely need to do something about this group. but in saying that, we also need to be very careful that we don't just end up flooding the entire middle east with even more weapons, more armorments and repeat what happens going back in the '80s and, in fact, going back further than that when we go and arm one group of people who are alive for the moment and then it comes upon us in the future. i think we need a strategy that limits the private financing of saudi individuals because they are -- because maybe the saudi state is not the terrorist organization here it's our allies, but there are rich and wealthy people in saudi arabia
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who are financing the likes of isis. and unfortunately, that comes down to root causes and, you know, the petro dollar. the united states has the influence on the financial side of things to really hammer home things if it feeds to. i just think that more needs to be done to seize assets from extreme theists even among allied nations. host: michael, the financial aspect, i want to go back to your country, the u.k. at this point, what do you think is the proper military role for the u.k. at this point? caller: well, obviously, until the scottish independence vote happens, the military role will have to be -- will have to be looked at because obviously, that is going to severely affect the u.k.'s future military capacity, but for the moment, i
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think, with the efforts we have deployed, i think we need to send in a lot more drones, capability of hitting back hard. we also need to have more air power to kind of extend the shield across the entire region along with yourself, i would even say it's time that the french and germans pull their fingers out. however, nato allies and non-nato allies who can support us in creating an area where there is nowhere to hide, there is not a stone that these people can hide under. we can actually take them out. host: thank you, michael. a couple of pour expectives. michael talks about the money. go after the money and go after isis that way. guest: yes. easier said than do fortunately, but it's a -- unfortunately but it's a great point michael made. he pointed out to our allies and
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partners in the region, countries like saudi arabia that many of these countries have provided, two groups that are well funded, well armed and are -- end up being opposed to american and european interests. and i think in this really quite a significant problem for us and again gets back to my earlier point that you've got groups within iraq and syria, where ices is operating, countries in the region. who is interest don't necessarily align with ours. talking about the utes of predator drones. not going to be air power alone that's going to be able to address this problem. >> we do need a partner's on the ground who can assist. you talked about our ability to provide intelligence to iraqi forces or to kurdish forces on the ground in order to be able
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to stop isis. but again, it gets back to the problem of whether the -- those groups, the different groups in iraq, have interest that align with ours and what agendas they are pursuing, because inevitably they are going to be different than ours. host: at a time caller brought up this week, they are voting, i want to make the connection there to what's happening in the u.k. with isis or general thoughts on this referendum. guest: if scotland votes yes, and becomes an independent country, we are looking at an ally that looks very different than the ally of today. and all of the polls are showing a razor thin margin, the election, this referendum on the 18th. i think people had earlier thought that there would be a no vote and then in recent weeks,
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we have seen some momentum for those who support independence and a lot of scrambling after government, by business, to talk about the effect that this would have, calculations about their access to oil. i think that it would throw things into turmoil, not just in the u.k. but more broadly in europe if scotland does leave. >> let's hear from tom in georgia. hey, tom. >> how are you doing this morning? host: host: well. caller: i would like to say that sooner or later, reverend wright is going to have to give his blessing or we will be in deep shiite. can they keep our air support? we turned on these people so much like the kurds, i just don't know i don't know if anybody can believe us any more especially with this president and would rather help the president decide. any thoughts?
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>> well. the way the president articulated it, he doesn't want this to become isis versus the united states. he doesn't want this to be the united states going to war in the middle east again: we are trying to cast this as threats to a broader community inside and outside and he wants to make clear that this is not the west versus islam. this isn't the u.s. versus isis. and that's where you have the real challenge because it does involve building a coalition. it doesn't look like it's just the united states but, on the other hand, when you are talking about air power, that's what the united states has. guest: our guest is james goldgeier, dean of the school of international service. he has worked as a foreign affairs officer at the state department of. he has worked with the national security counsel. the year would have been 1996
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and worked as the director for russian and ukrainian and eurasian affairs. it there is a headline here, some folks are of the opinion that putin is intent on taking all of ukraine bit by bit by bit says one of the opposition leaders what do you think? guest: we don't know what putin's end game is. we know his gold is to prevent ukraine from moving closer from the west, from joining e.u. and nato. we know that he created the so-called and i think the expectation had been all along that his goal was to create another frozen conflict in ukraine, and really what you get, if the cease-fire holds, and you will get another frozen conflict.
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is that sufficient for him? we don't really know because he certainly has surprised us in the past with the way in which he's gone into ukraine and supported the separatists in the east. he is making it extra 0er8d difficult for the ukrainian government to gain control over its country and to be able to move forward successfully. the challenges that are -- that are opposed to that ukrainian government right now are absolutely monumental. host: what do you make of the sproeft of the u.s. and europe so far to this issue. largely to apply sanctions to putin and russia and to folks close to putin, apply some s sectoral sanctions to majors parts of the russian economy the
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problem with sanctions is always that they take a long time affects on businesses, german businesses and in particular has been concerned about the impact of sanctions and so, largely, sanctions and there has always been support announced for the ukrainian government, mainly non-lethal aid sub economic assistance. really not enough assistance. to help them change the dynamic. >> 10 or 15 more minutes with our guest and go to pete in windsor, connecticut. good morning, pete. >> good morning. yeah, i just don't see how anybody with half a brain could support anything that, you know, is intervening in iraq after the first iraq war, you know, i didn't support it and.
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no iraq could be conflict, you know, wowmvs & massacred, hundreds of thousands of iraqis and i mean does anybody really surprised about the beheadings? come on. i will tell you another thing. true americans out there who will never win anything in the middle east as long as israel and apac are attached to our six % approved they will never win anything as long as they are dictating a foreign policies. >> russell in oklahoma, you are on with james goldgeier of american university. caller: >> good morning. >> i am in north square carolina. >> is it ardin north carolina? >> yes.
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>> okay. >> yes. >> go ahead. >> thank you very much for answering my call. i have a question here. if we look at what's going on with isil, isis, russia and with iran and the various other groups that are considered to be terrorists, will that not be underlined dynamic of what happens with israel's support, israel taking over gaza and the palestinians could that -- would that be one of the dynamics that we have been overlooking and not looking at in the host: thanks, russell. let's hear from our guest. guest: israel has been involved in a number of issues in the region. i don't think this is one of them. i believe what we are seeing here is a clash between sunnis and shias. we have the broader situation involving kurds and then the syrian regime it's taking place
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within the islamic world. >> that's why we are trying to foster this sense of inclusivity of the iraqi government so that, or folks in iraq feeling they are so alienated that they would support what isis is doing. and funding from a group outside, they are is able to get financing from what they have done already, control of oil fields that they have now are able to use in order to support their operations so it's largebly what's going on in that region. hoecht. host: david on the line from oklahoma. are you ready? caller: i am here. host: go ahead. caller: it seems to me we are not having an intellectual level
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discussion about war model, the arabic war model. it involved shock and awe and making war so horrible that your opponent with stop fighting and involves hiding that has been the war model for sent trees. and if we don't understand that, it seems that they are more likely to succeed in their efforts to terrorize us through successful use of that age-old war model. our reactions are visceral & that's just exactly what they want. host: james goldgeier. guest: i think what you are getting at is that, you know,
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the administration has outlined and you would expect us to go all in on this to destroy this group and what we are seeing is a strategy where we are saying we are going to use airstrikes and going to rely on others to deal with this. i question, you know, how successful that can be and when we talk about years of conflict, the second point i would like to make which is that we have now been engaged in war with iraq for almost a quarter century. iraq invaded kuwait in 1980. george h.w. bush administration put together a coalition to respond to that and reverse that iraqi invasion of kuwait. we spent the 1990s patrolling no-fly zones. we went to war in 2003 under the
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george w. bush administration. this president came in to get us out of that war. we are now back in. and he's talked about the fact that his successfor and it may e his success ors successor will be dealing with that. >> that's a lot of time for the united states to be spending at war in a particular part of the world. >> from iraq to iran, wanted to get your take. there is a tweet but there is a related headline this morning, in the washington post, and it says that as the u.s. buildings a coalition, iran is left on the outside. secretary kerry there, but the tweet asks. how much is iran flew he knewing what the strategy will ultimately be against isis? >> well, this is probably one of the most interesting dynamics. we have a country that we haven't had a relationship with we are pursuing a deal on the reinian nuclear program and the administration would like to get
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that deal. there has been a lot of talk about whether or not that deal, of getting a deal, could change the dynamic of the u.s.-iranian relationship. we have a situation where iran is threatened by ices wants to support the iraqi government. the shiite-led iraqi government and in opposition to isis and so we share we share some common objectives in going after isis but currently going in to a conflict in coalition with iran is not something we are able to do. so, you know, we don't know what conversations are taking place in private and we don't know what conversations are taking place if, if any, as the discussions go forward on the iranian nuclear program but it is certainly one of the more interesting features of this conflict. >> john from winston, salem. good morning, john? >> good morning. >> my question is and a quick
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comment, are the isis, are they sunni, shiite, kurdish or what? andtion, number 2, it's still all about oil in my opinion. thank you. i will shut up. >> yeah, is it all about oil? i mean certainly, we have had an interest in that region because of the oil. we are there because of a real panic that as this group quickly expands the territory thit's taking, that it is redrawing boundaries, that it is having an impact on groups that are closely allied with the united states like the kurds and i think really it's the speed with which this group is operating that it is is it it has caused
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this panic in the west. it is a group that is feeding off of the sunni alienation in iraq to try to gain adherence as it opposes the shiite forces and those forces allied to the shiites. but you've got now these splits within these parts of the muslim world where you now have these more extremist sunni groups as well as what we hope are more moderate sunni groups that we can support against the extremists. caller: thank you. host: thank you for calling. here is a tweet. some perspective this caller is looking for from his party, how much resistance against intervention is president obama receiving? do you have a sense? guest: well, i think it's hard for members of congress to oppose the president when the president lays out national
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security threats and says we have to do something to respond to that threat and we have -- when you have videos of americans being beheaded, it's very difficult for members of congress to oppose the president in any circumstance like that. and what you typically find from members of congress, although there are rumors now that there there will be some pressure on congress woman pelosi to get a debate within congress and potentially a vote, as i was saying earlier, typically, members of congress don't want to have to be put on the spot with a vote because they don't know how things are going to turn out. and they don't want to have to pay a political price for the vote that they have taken. it's interesting that the president has relied on votes, the authrisation to use military force that was granted after the attacks of september 11th, 2001, but, also, the authorization to
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use military force against iraq in the fall of 2002. and i say it's ironic that the president is relying on that 2002 authorization because after all, he came in to office arguing that that was a dumb war and he was going to get us out and now he is relying on that authorization. >> we have one more call. tony here last >> kansas city, missouri. hey, tony. caller: hey, i would like to hear this gentleman's take on whether he would think it would be prudent going forward in the future to maybe heed the warnings of people like when we go over, like when we went into awed e arabia in the 30s in search of oil, you know, we were, you know, it kind of goes to the saying, when in rome, do as the romans do and we kind of interjected our cultural beliefs our, our, you know, dress, what
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have you and this is basically what this is all -- we have insulted them culturally. host: final thought from our guest. guest: this is why you see the president of the united states. he has been proactive since his cairo speech early in his presidency. he is trying to change the dynamic from the west against islam and from anything that looks like sort of western imperialism trying to impose our way of life or our beliefs in this part of the world. it's why he is so eager to build this coalition that involves countries and groups from the region in support of his objectives. he's got this challenge and sees the threat to the united states. but he doesn't want to get this cast as tony was suggesting as a west versus islam conflict. host: our guest is a former guest of the emergency counsel. he is currently dean of the
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school of service in washington, d.c. thank you for your time and insight. guest: thank you. host: we have about the 30 minutes left in this sunday edition of "the washington journal." we will come back and get more of your thoughts and reaction to the isis execution. they are claiming they have beheaded a british citizen. this is the third westerner in rebate weeks here here are the phone numbers to call. and we will be back in a moment. >> it's launch week for the 11th annual student can documentary contents. $100,000 in cash prizes will be award today middle and high school contest winners. this year's theme is the broadest ever. it's the three branches and you. we would like you to tell a story dmoon straights how a policy, a law, or an action by
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british citizen joining us from phone is griff witty with the "washington post." mr. woody explain for us the reaction in the u.k. to this execution. >> i think there is real horror. this was apparently a british individual who was executing a brit. so there is quite a bit of horror. david cameron has given a statement saying that the british government is going to put all of its powers to bear trying to track down the killer, and try to bring him to justice. but obviously, this is now the third execution that apparently has been carried out by the same british individual, and both the u.s. and the u.k. have said that they intend to track this person down, intend to go after isis, and yet these executions continue. the group, islamic state, has now threatened to execute another brit, another aid
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worker. host: the prime minister, we know, held a cabinet meeting, emergency meeting which we started hearing about last night. it happened this morning. who did he bring together, and do you have any sense of what it was like in the meeting? >> well, what we know is that what the president said after the meeting. the meeting was held this morning and he was bringing together what's known as the cobra committee, which is the essentially somewhat like the national execute council here it's all of prime ministerka cameron's top advisors on national security measures and they are undoubtedly discussing where to go in terms of going after isis. britain has so far applied intelligence, conducted surveillance armed the peshmerga, the kurdish militia fighting islamic state in iraq. it hasn't gone along with the united states on airstrikes.
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it supported those airstrikes but has not conducted any, itself and there will undoubtedly be rising pressure on the government to change that position and to join with the united states in conducting airstrikes, and i am sure that that was one of the items that was on the agenda today. host: i was going to ask: where do you see public opinion in the u.k.? how do you see it shaping up in the days ahead? especially following this event yesterday? >> i think it's a very, very strong feeling against islamic state and it is across the board. you have seen very strong condemnations of islamic muslim leaders in the last 12, 15 hours or so. and, you know, there is obviously no sympathy here or very, very little sympathy here for islamic state. i think the support seems to be rising for airstrikes. one of the tricky political aspects of this whole thing to watch in the next few days is
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that scotland is going to be voting on its index referendum on thursday, and scotland has been somewhat less -- the people of scotland have been less interested in foreign interventions than the people of the rest of britain have. i think that one of the calculations cameron might have in terms of when to really make a push for airstrikes if that is what he intends to do, he may want to wait until after it has voted in order to do that so that the issue does not become british airstrikes and the issue of the day continues to be scotland. >> cliff wi -- griff witte, thank you for the update? >> good to be here. host: to the phones, more of your calls now on the story out of the u.k., out of syria, brandon, berkeley, california, good morning. brandon? are you there? caller: yeah. host: go ahead, sir. caller: yes. i am interested
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because i watched braveheart and i saw all of those english hurt those people. should they be independent? host: host: brandon, are you finished? caller: yeah. host: let's try alan from michigan. caller: i was watching your show and interested in the talk about isis and what kind of threat they have to us, and what i am seeing is that the threat the united states from isis seems to be if they have an ability, which hasn't been proven yet, to export terror here to the united states. i am just wondering why there isn't more talk of closing the borders down because it seems like we are putting the cart before the horse, going to send bombers and fighters over there, you know, to bomb them. i think we ought to be shutting down our borders. once we start dropping bombs,
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aren't they just going to scatter and put their three-piece suits on and come into the country? host: host: hoe concerned are you for that? caller: very concerned about it. host: anything else you want to add this morning? caller: i just wish that people would start talking about the borders now because, you know, because the only way they can hurt us is if they are is able to export their terror here host: for those who might be interested in that, we did cover a hearing on the southern border with the mexico and the potential for extremists to come in. you can go ahead and look at it, ires, watch the whole hearing any time you want at we have ramsey on the phone from waterloo, iowa. hello, ramsey. caller: thank you for taking my call. guest: sure. what's your reaction to the latest execution, and what should happen next? caller: certainly isis is a threat, but looking at the situation right now, i don't see
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why anything will happen good unless the saudis get involved or stop being involved because nouri al-malaki a few months ago said that the saudis are directly involved in the instability in iraq. and it has been said of syria, said many times in the u.n. and elsewhere that the saudis are directly involved in helping militants to fight the syrian government. why the saudis are not taking part on this situation? host: host: why don't you answer your own question, caller? caller: i am going to answer my own question. host: go ahead. caller: there is going to be no situation solved on this matter and isis will not be eliminated
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if the saudis does not stop supporting terrorists in syria and iraq. >> that's the only solution that's going to eliminate isis. >> okay. thank you for calling. in the "outlook" section, ramsey medina, mid east scholar, it's not worth the talk. they are talking about isis. the writer says the islamic state is over-hyped and when you go down into the piece a little bit in the post, you see this, americans are misreading the recent islamic state successes which speak less to the group ability and inevitability than external factors. despite territorial games, a mastery of propaganda, the islamic state's fundamentals are weak and it does not have a sustainable endgame. in short, we are giving it too much credit. >> that's in "the washington post" by a mid east scholar. geoff from danville, illinois on the line. go ahead, geoff.
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caller: i was curious about some of the politicians stating that isis is operating south of the border of el paso. host: tell us more. geoff, are you still there? caller: yes, sir. host: go ahead and turn the sound down on your set. we will hear you better. wanted you to elaborate on your point about south of the border. caller: it's been on social media that isis is operating south of the border in mexico by el paso, texas. host: where in social media have you read that in case we want to look it up ourselves? caller: facebook and a politician. i can't recall that was on facebook that's made the accusation. host: what does that all mean to you? caller: well, the airabs
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explained that europe and the united states could be targeted. there is a cartel down in mexico assisting with possibly bringing isis into the states. >> thanks for calling, geoff. jennifer, salt lake city, what would you like to say this morning? caller: the crisis, it seems like everything we wanted to do turns out to be no action. where are they now? are we going to listen to them or on our own as far as, you know, they seem to veto any action whatsoever, bombing, and now they are being very quiet. host: what would you like to see from them? caller: frankly nothing. i am upset they vetoed any action and we could have stopped it from getting where they are in the first place or are now if we could have gone in earlier. host: okay. and drooi in columbus, ohio. caller: thank you for taking my
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call. i just wanted to comment basically on the correlation between removing a death spot for a dick -- or a dictator and then the ensuing chaos that takes place afterwards. if we look at historically any time we have removed a dicta dictate and american has done this over many years if one knows history, you will find the chaos that ensues afterwards is much worse: sud am hussein used to suppress any form of opposition in theist way. host: let me ask you, if you are still there, adding a balance of what you just said with some of the polling out there. a big majority the of americans say they are concerned about this group. caller: that's because the news
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cycle, it gives us this great amount of fear of something and if we look at the military -- the military aspect and, also, the capabilities of these small faxes of groups, they have no direct ability to harm u.s. citizens. we have the capabilities to protect our borders and do things like that. but it's when we engage these people and our bombing, our hellfire missile you see and 500 pound bombs, dropping it on their civilian possession and creating and fostering even more people who have a certain dissent toward americans and it's not the american people that these people probably have an issue with. it's our government policies, our foreign policy, our ignorance of what israel does to children and women and then we are so appalled by what's happening to americans who actually put themselves when they go into these areas. not saying it's justified but they place themselves in very
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tumultuous places and being harmed as a result. host: thank you for calling. the house and senator are back into session tomorrow. the house has one week left before they take a week break. the senate may be in for a little more than a week b, but what we want to point out is they will take up the continuing resolution this week and that's the bill, the large bill that funds the rest of the government operations for a certain period of time, and you can watch live house coverage here on c-span. the senate on cspan-2. we may also see some money being put forth for the battle against isis or perhaps some sort of policy, statement by congress. dennis hoyer, a minority whip in the house talks a little bit about how congress should address threats from the islamic state militaritants. >> i believe the 2-step process what i think we will pursue. >> that's i think there will be
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a consideration of the president's request to train and equip regional players. >> that's people who are from syria, iraq, and other middle eastern countries, arab nations, who will, i think, be the boots on the ground that people talk about. i think we will be the facilitators, the supporters, and, yes, help coordinate a large coalition which the president and the secretary of state are now putting together. we have some significant number of nations who have already indicated that they want to participate. so, i think that will be the first thing we will consider probably and hopefully next week. >> that's authorizing the president under article 10 to equip and train in an o vert way as opposed to covert way people to take on isil. secondly, i think at some point
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in time, when we come back, after the elections, i think there will be a consideration of a larger authorization for the use of force. >> steny hoyer, democrat from maryland, the which in the house. at 6 eastern time. here is the headline in the "l.a. times," new conflict may threaten cuts. based upon a peace dividend are another casualty of the islamic state fight. they are making the point in the first five weeks t has cost 362.5 million according to the pentagon. mr. obama has personally lobbied key members of congress to appropriate 500 million to help train and arm syrian rebels. the president's request there. back to calls now. carol has been waiting in ro rockhill south carolina. thank you for calling. carol, are you there? caller: yes, i am here.
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host: go ahead, please. caller: i will share my worthless wisdom with you. watching all of this isil, isis, i hear the strategy of the united states. >> kind of disturbs me. i will draw a parallel closer to our home front here arming all of these other groups that we don't know about. syrian rebels and the like at a time strategy, the parallel is sort of like arming our street gangs, arming the cripps to take on the bloods. that would be a stupid move because eventually, we are going to have to take on the winner. my idea and talk about this caliphate. it's not going to be established in california. i think these guys, these isil people, they want to eventually establish a caliphate in mecca.
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and i think maybe it's time that the saudis really catch wise and get on board with this whole thing. host: that was carol. let's hear from patrick in washington, d.c. there, patrick? caller: good. how are you? the people are isis, they are organized, have the money to do whatever they want to do. we are america. we need to do more to everybody in this country, 500 million is a problem for them. government, everybody has to participate. >> that's my comment. host: let's go to guy in southlake, texas. caller: good morning. i just wanted to say that, you know, i know a lot of organizations and news facilities talking about minimizing potential effects or probability that isis would ever
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come to the united states. but, you know, all of your audience seem to realize that al-qaeda, that operation was made positionable on around $500,000. and they had the, you know distinctly they were coming after america. they said so. isis said they are coming after america. the last i heard, the treasury, the amount of money they have stolen and taken and acquired is over $2,000,000,000. >> that's my comment. have a good day. host: to omar in terra hote, indiana. caller: it seems like so much of the anger and confusion that the american people have about these isis people comes in large part because of our own so-called free press and free news media who don't tell the american people the origins of this group, isil. this group, isil, like al-qaeda in afghanistan, they were
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created by the united states government along with israel. they, in turn, and britain, and some of the european countries, they get turkey and saudi arabia to play their parts and, you know, this group actually was created to help destroy president assad. they have been trying to overthrow syria so as to eventually leave iran without any allies. last thing i would say is this: the best thing the american people can do in order to really judge really what's going on over in that area, they've got to turn to some alternative media. the best website that i would advise all americans to read, and this might be hard to stomach is press t.v., which is an iranian english website. read that website for exactly one month and the fog will drop from your eyes and you will see the role that our government and its so-called allies have been playing in the creation of isis.
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host: thank you, omar for calling. we will get a couple of other calls in before we have to wrap things up. we have to remind you about our big 10 bus tour, the c-span bus continues a month-long tour of the universities of the big 10 conference. these schools annually educate more than half a million people. they collectively engage in nearly $10,000,000,000 of research. in conjunction with the c-span bus you see's big 10 tour, this program, washington journal is interviewing university presidents. we have had several on so far. but this week, here is the line-up:
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host: richard from wood isstock, new york. good morning. caller: thanks for taking my call. these are horrible things that are happening, and we are reacting, and that's what we do. we react. we need to be pro-active. it's like we deal with health issues in this country. we deal with the symptoms and not the cause. until we deal with the cause, what is driving these people to do such horrible things or to fight or to have israel be their enemies, we need to get to the core of what those beliefs are and what those issues are. host: richard, what is your sense of the core? the cause and the core? caller: obviously, if you look at a citizen of that area of the world and see how many times the united states has come in, justifiably or not justifiably, and taken over a country, certainly, those that live in that area look at iraq and say, would you.
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that was just a pure invasion of a sovereign nation. how would you react to that? do you have fight for what you believe in. you have to fight for your country and then when the support, the united states support of israel, cannot 100% support of israel to not go well with them. so, it's a matter of getting these people together and understanding what their problems are and work in those things out. you know, peace is not the absence of war. peace is a state of cooperation among people for the mutual benefit of all. and until we get to that situation, we are going to continue to have these groups causing these kind of problems. host: that was richard from richard to laura who writes via twitter, bombing isis is the same thing as poking a hornet's nest. this will end in disaster. back to the calls, william from baltimore. caller: that's me. host: go ahead caller: thank you for taking my call on c-span. i had a couple of comments i would make and it may be we can tie some of these things
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together with isis. we have a porous border. we have a state that would like to take over another area and would like to export violence to us. on top of that, we have wahabism in saudi arabia that fosters the idea of a jihad. when we think we are fighting against a little group that wants to on dominate a small area, that's not what's going n on. we have a jihad where we have a christian/muslim fight. all muslims are not interested in fighting us. i think we need to make that clear and eventually, we are going to wake up and realize isis is exporting oil. they have our tanks, many, many large weapons we have left behind. it's not a small thing we are looking at. it's a very large problem. >> that's enough right trt. i appreciate your time c-span and i look forward to comments.
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host: thank you for calling. a little bit more detail on the execution yesterday. the gentleman's name was david haynes, from scotland. he was 44, father of two from perth scotland, kidnapped last year while working for an aid group from france named acted. the video was entitled message to the allies of america and opened with a shot of david cameron, the prime minister talking about working with the iraqi government and peshmerga forces to defeat the islamic state. the quote said this british man has to pay this price for your promise, cameron, to arm the peshmerga against the islamic state. this from the masked man dressed in black. he had a british accent. he stands over haynes according to the description here and the photo we are seeing, she was shown knowing wearing an orange jumpsuit. the video shows the beheading of the knowing man. another hostage is shown and the masked man said he, too, will be killed if cameron continues to
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support the fight against the islamic state. north carolina what's the name of your talk? >> waxau. my question, sir, is this. why are we giving the terrorists the media? i mean as far as showing the pictures of these terrorists standing beside the person that's, you know, getting assassinated. host: that has been somewhat of a theme this morning among the callers. what is the best approach, then, when these stories come out? there are wars that are now happening. what is the best approach that the media should take? caller: i think, number 1, the main thing, is not to give these people pictures. take their pictures and show them to the american people. they said at one time, some time back in the past, the traced said they didn't have to do anything when they were threatening israel but put fear in the people. and when american people see these kind of things taking
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place, they are made to be afraid. host: another question about the pictures and videos and things like that. do they have the effect of maybe galvanizing public support for an action? caller: i don't think so. i think what it does, it just gives the terrorists what they want. >> they want to be seen around the world of what it they are capable of doing if they are not controlled. and i just feel very bad about the fact that every time they show an assassination, they show the asasassinator standing besie the victim. >> that's fearful, especially when they are taking heads, you know. so that's just my comment and my question. host: our last call from howard from north carolina. thank you, everyone who called in during this three-hour program. largely, about isis. i want to tell you about tomorrow's show. monday's washington journal here on c-span. ken burns is going to be on the show, the documentary film maker. he has a new one out that starts
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tonight called the roosevelt, an intimate history" and it's on b pbs, of course. the second guest on that segment will be jeffrey ward, the author of the program. so ken burns and jeffrey ward will be on the program. eli lake will join us with "the daily beast" senior national security correspondent. the guests will talk about an article titled the warren isis may be illegal. and todd harrison. talk about continuer that you arerism operations and the military budget. that's washington journal tomorrow. we hope you will join us. we hope you enjoy the rest of your weekend. see you right back here tomorrow.
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