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i said really. i got to ask you. why would your liberal hair dresser love me? without missing a beat she says because you're for the little guy. of all the workers in america only 10% owned their own business. 90% are little guys. pundits have often wondered how i was able to win 11 states even though i was outspent 4:1. they thought it was because i was simply the last man standing. they were wrong. i won because i stood for someone -- the little guy, the american worker. [applause] if we are going to win in 2016, we need to stand for the little guy, too. [applause]
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2016 is going to be a different election though. the world has changed. we don't need just someone with a strong economic plan. thanks to the obama-clinton foreign-policy team, we have gone from a policy of peace t hrough strength from a policy of leaving behind and it has been disastrous for the american people and the world. in fact, the president's popularity is so bad around the world today that i heard this report from a source that the kenyan government is actually developing proof that barack obama was actually born in america. [laughter] [applause] the fact of the matter is we are in a very serious time. i was in israel six months ago and i spoke with prime minister netanyahu's senior adviser and he pulled me aside and he said
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in 2016 america needs to elect a wartime president. the world is a dangerous place. we need someone with real experience. to be able to rebuild our military. the likelihood we will face a former secretary of state means we need someone with a long and deep understanding of the threats of that confronts us particularly the threat of radical islam. [applause] to be clear, it wasn't just the president's liberal outlook, but his profound lack of experience that has created the problem for us in america. commander-in-chief is not an entry-level position. [applause] the oval office is no place for on-the-job training, not in times like this.
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[applause] i like the president. i have eight years of service in the senate armed services committee. we are overseeing science, technology, all of our ground and air forces. before and after 9/11, i worked to retool our military is something we call asymmetric threat we call terrorism. after 9/11, i took a deep dive to try to understand this new enemy. of al qaeda. i found out it was not a new enemy. this is an enemy that has been attacking the west for over 1000 years. 1000 years. trying to expand their territory in the west. we need someone who understands that and understands the radicals today are simply
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working out of the playbook of over 1000 years ago. over the past few months, we have seen the american public rightly question the president about his refusal to identify the enemy. they're asking the question -- how can we defeat what we refuse to understand? we cannot. we can't defeat somebody unless we understand them and fashion a plan to defeat them. refusing to embrace the reality of evil is nothing new. in the 1930's, winston churchill warned the world about the gathering storm and the world sat quietly by until it was almost too late. in 2006-2009, i traveled -- i gave my farewell address to the united states senate about the gathering storm of the 21st
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century -- the rise of militant radical islam. i was called everything from chicken little to a warmonger. the first speech i gave was in the summer of 2006 after i had worked to pass a sanctions bill on the iranian nuclear program. we failed by a few votes. at the beginning of the understanding of the development of the iranian program. i said at the speech that this is like defining world war ii on blitzkrieg. terrors of tactics is not an ideology. we have the moral clarity and courage back in world war ii to called nazi germany nazi germany even though only 7% of germans were nazis.
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some have suggested that only a small percentage of islam is radical or militant. even if 1/10 of 1%, one in 1000 muslims are radical violent islamists that number is larger than the active duty military of our country. this is not a j.v. team. this is not a threat to be passed on. in the 1930's, we should have known, we could have known what the threat was. all we needed to do was read the book. hitler told us what he was going to do. we chose to ignore it. al qaeda isis, iran, the muslim brotherhood -- all we need to do is read their books and we will know what they want to do to the west. [applause]
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isis wants to establish a seven century caliphate. they want to behead, crucify burn, torture, andenslave. in response, the obama-clinton foreign-policy team refuses to ignore legit -- refuses to acknowledge it but insist the threat to security is global climate change. ladies and gentlemen we don't need a weatherman in chief we need a commander in chief to run this country. [applause] we need to start by crushing isis now. [applause] we must start in iraq. we need to get isis out of a iraq. we need to arm the kurds.
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[applause] instead of sending them bandages and body bags, we need to send them weapons to drive isis out of mosul and iraq. [applause] we need to increase aid to jordan egypt. they want to fight. they're warning us of this problem. america needs to engage. we need to engage with a t wo-prong strategy. number one, we need to put boots on the ground. [applause] 10,000 is what the general testified to. 10,000 accord nato airstrikes, provide training and intelligence. yet, we need to do airstrikes. not five or 10 a day, not a stunned that the president is doing today, but we need to take
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serious to destroy isis. we need to hit isis to defeat them. if isis wants to establish a seventh century caliphate letters bomb them back to the seventh century -- let us bomb them back to the seventh century. [applause] finally, i agree with prime minister netanyahu. even if the world bands together to defeat isis, if iran gains a nuclear weapon, we will have failed our time. in the end, prime minister netanyahu would not be coming to america. he would not be risking the most important national security arrangement that israel has it wasn't for the fact he believes that iran and the united states nuclear negotiations wellill
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end up being a threat to his country. this is a dangerous time but here is the good news -- elections matter. 2016 is an opportunity just like 1980 was. in 1980, took one election and one president to return america's standing and to defeat evil in the world. [applause] in 2016, we need another president prepared to make america, again, that shining city on a hill for all to see. thank you and god bless you. [applause] thank you. >> thank you, senator santorum.
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it is great to have you this afternoon. we are taking questions from conservatives all across the country at this time. the hashtag is #cpacq. the media who considers any of the speakers presidential candidates will be subjected to this question-and-answer period. my question to you is given the world's current events, would you strengthen our military? >> i think that the most important job of the federal government's national security. i just listened to rand paul. we disagree on how we do that. i think we need a robust military to defend ourselves, to protect our security interests and to make sure we can be a reliable ally. if america does not lead the world, someone else will. look to what is going on in russia what is going on in
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china, what is happening in the middle east and central and south america. other leaders are rising as we recede and the world is not a safer place so america must be strong and it must lead. [applause] >> thank you. do you think your strong religious beliefs will intimidate some of the more moderate voters? >> one of the great things about this country is we are a country that is passionate about freedom. passionate about people being able to live their lives. i find it somewhat disturbing that sometimes that is ok unless you are someone who happens to be religious in the world today. that somehow you are not allowed to be passionate about that. you were not allowed to stand up and articulate that. [applause] i will fight and i have fought for everybody to be able to come into the square and make
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their case. i will fight to my dying day to make sure you have the right to do that. increasingly, we are finding a less you of a particular point of view, you are not welcome anymore. that is a dangerous thing for america. separation of church and state is not in the constitution. freedom of religion is and that is what i will stand for. [applause] >> thank you. next question is what is the best way to dismantle common core? >> i think we are starting at it. we have a bill i have been supportive of in the senate. from the federal level it would put the brakes on common core. i think it is important that since the federal government --
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obamas programs to adopt common core, we should cut off that money and give the states the flexibility to use the money how they see fit not how arne duncan sees fit. >> we wish you the best of luck and god bless. >> thank you very much. god bless you all. [applause] ♪ >> marco rubio spoke at cpac for a little over 20 minutes. he talked about his family and took questions on a range of issues, including health care and his own political future. ♪ [applause] >> thank you. thank you very much. i'm happy to be back at sees
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cpac for the fifth time. my first time was in 2010 and i was 50 points down in the polls and the only people that thought i could win the senate race were living in my home. i'm glad to be back with you on the eve of the most important what -- election of my lifetime. november 2016 will not be a choice of who the next president is alone. the question before us in november 2016 is what type of country we are going to be. for over two centuries, we have been an exceptional nation. i place founded on the belief that every man, woman and child was born with a given right of life and liberty and the pursuit of happiness. sometimes you would not know by listening to the left. they describe us as a people divided on lines of gender and ethnicity and race and class. sometimes you would not know we aren't exceptional nation by listening to the president
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u.s. described our nation is sometimes being arrogant or dictating terms to others. americans know we are exceptional. you know who else knows? the world knows. after all, when was the last time you heard of a boat load refugees arriving on the shores of another country? [applause] our greatness was not an accident. it did not happen on its own. our greatness is the result of god's blessing. the sacrifices made by men and women in uniform and the choices made by the people here before us. god is still blessing america. we are still blessing brave young americans willing to sacrifice their safety for the safety of ours. what remains to be seen if we are willing to do what those before us did. whatever it takes to keep
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america exceptional. like those who came before us, we do face challenges. we have millions of hard-working families living paycheck to paycheck and they are wondering when things will ever get better for them. around the world because of the obama-clinton foreign-policy, our allies no longer trust us and our enemies no longer hear us. -- fear us. this is the road our president has put us on. a government that increasingly controls every aspect of a lie from our health care choices to now even the internet. a foreign policy that treats the ayatollah in iran with more respect than the prime minister of israel. [applause] here is the bad news -- the bad news is that today our nation is on the road to decline. here is the good news -- we are one election away from triggering another american -- [applause] imagine if we cut our taxes and
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simplified our tax code. imagine if we balance our budget. imagine if we appeal and replaced obamacare. [applause] if we did these things, are economy would create millions of better paying jobs and the american dream would reach more people than ever. imagine if we had leaders of that understood that the family, not government is the most important organization in society. [applause] imagine if we had policies that helped people acquire skills not just for four years of college but of plumbers electricians and airplane mechanics. those are good jobs, too. [applause] imagine if our laws protected innocent human life from conception to natural death. [applause] if we have these things, if we have these things not only what are people be stronger than ever
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before, but they would be equipped with the skills and values they will need to succeed in this new country -- century. imagine if we had a commander in chief that understood the way to defeat isis is not to find them a job. [applause] imagine if we had a president who does not travel the world that mapping america -- badmouthing america. after all, that is the un's job. [laughter] [applause] imagine if we do not have a secretary of state who believes -- while the same time radical islamic jihadists are burning prisoners in cages and are behaeading christians in libya. if we have these things american would be the most trusted nation on earth and we would be safer. this new century presents us with significant challenges, but solving them are well within our reach. if we do, our future will be even better than our history and
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the 21st century will also be in american century. after all, leaving our children and our country better off the way we found it is what americans have always done. that is what we are called to do now. [applause] let me close with this. for me, this is deeply personal as it is for many of you. america does not only anything -- owe me anything that i have a debt to america that i will never be able to repay. in may 1956, my parents arrived here in search for a better life. they had little money, no connections. quite frankly, barely spoke the language and had very limited education. less than four decades later all four of their children live the lives and the dreams my parents once had for themselves.
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for me, america is not just a country. it is the place of that literally changed the history of my family. it is a nation of equal opportunity. it is the most powerful source for good the world has ever known. this is the america that welcome to my parents. this is the america that she ranged my world and this is the america that you when i are now called to leave behind. so inspired by the memory of who we truly have been and are let us now move forward to seize our destiny. the single greatest nation that man has ever known. thank you for having me. god bless you. [applause] thank you. thank you very much. >> give it up for senator marco rubio. [applause]
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good morning, cpac. how y'all doing? i can't hear you. [applause] by the way if some of you are not feeling well this morning it is not your fault. it is not jack daniels fault. it is george w. bush's fault. by the way, i got my water too. it is an honor to be with you. >> thank you. >> great senator from the state of florida. a love your family story. that is the american story. here is where we are now -- this breaks my heart and i think it breaks the heart of everybody in this room. nearly 50 million americans in poverty. nearly 50 million americans on food stamps. we have 90 20 million americans not working -- 92 million
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americans not working but the government tells us the unemployment level is great. we have $18.1 trillion in debt, $100 trillion in unfunded liabilities. how do we dig ourselves out of that hole? >> we have to understand the world is rapidly changing. we are basically having the industrial revolution every five years. our leaders are still stuck in yesterday. they think they will pour more of your money into the same programs that did not even work that well in the past and we will get out of it. globalization israel. we are now in competition with dozens of other countries and a less we cut our taxes reduce or regulations, get rid of obamacare, balance our budget and fully utilize our energy portfolio, we cannot compete. if we do that, we can compete with anybody in the world. [applause] we need to help our people be stronger than ever. that begins with strong families. empowering parents. allowing parents to choose where their children will go to school.
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that also means not having a national school board that imposes a national curriculum on the whole country. [applause] >> i will put you down is yes for common core. >> we need to understand in the 21st century, some of the best jobs require more than high school, traditional high school but less than four years of college. we should not be stigmatizing those vocational careers. we should get more people from high school ready to work as technicians, you name it. the four year degree is still important. i went to a four-year degree -- i/o over $100,000 in student loans which i paid off with the proceeds of my book which is now available in paperback if you're interested. [laughter] we have people graduating for a four-year degree that have no jobs and they owed tens of thousands of dollars. we should tell people if a major in greek philosophy they will struggle to find a job.
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>> senator, let me ask you this. i think everybody in this room applauds everything you said. that is the vision of what conservatism is about. a lot of disappointment with the republican party. a lot of republicans run and the city want to repeal and replace obamacare but when it comes that moment where they could use their constitutional authority, it is not happen. we have now kick the can down the road as a relates to the dhs funding bill. every republican that i remember in this last election said they would do everything in their power that they would not allow obama's executive orders on immigration to go through but it appears some people are buckling a little bit. >> here is the problem in the party. there is a dispute between people who think our job is to do a better job of managing the government and those who understand we are at a crossroads in our history which every generation faces.
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every generation of america will ask the same questions. do you want america to be special ordered to you wanted to be another country? i understand these issues don't play well in america but when reagan took on the soviet union and the cold war and said they were destined for the ash heap of history, that was not popular in history. they called him crazy. there comes important critical moment in our history where you do stand up and say if we keep doing the same thing, it will not matter anyway. that moment has come. >> why is there mysterious reluctance and fear that the republicans will be blamed for a shutdown? >> that is the hypocrisy. we are in the minority and we filibuster and want to repeal it, we are shutting down the government. when they are in the minority and they filibuster, we are shutting down the government, too.
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anyway you look at it, that is how they will portray it. >> i keep hearing there are differences and strategies. is there a point where you stand on principles and put all political considerations aside? >> of this latest issue of the executive order by the president is not a policy issue per se alone, it is a constitutional issue. [applause] let me tell you something. i believe we need to cut the corporate tax rate, and personal tax rates but if the president took executive order to cut the tax rate by refusing to collect more than a certain percentage i would be against that because you don't have the power to do that. if you lose that constitutional check and balance on power, you lose the essence of what makes our government different from a policy standpoint. [applause] 22 times the president said he did not have the authority to do what he did. as far as i can tell, the
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constitution has not been amended so i don't know where he found the constitutional power to do this. this is a constitutional debate. >> he made it up as usual. i think it is very key because it is filled only -- fidelity to the constitution. let me ask you about immigration. you went forward with your immigration proposal. at the end of the day, you said it did not work, i tried, it is not going to work. you kind of -- i interviewed you last time and you said you regretted going forward and you learned from the process and you thought you made a mistake. explain. >> it was not very popular. it is a very serious problem that needs to be confronted. we don't have the mechanisms in place with the enforcement of the immigration system. 40% of the illegal immigrants come legally and they overstay their visas.
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we don't know who they are. there were three sectors in the border that are completely insecure. it needs more fencing, security. we have illegal immigration system that is the most generous. one million people in the world come to this country a year. it is all based on whether or not you have a family member here. it has to be based on some sort of merit and economic conservation. -- contribution. that into be dealt with as well. [applause] yeah, you have 10 to 12 million people in this country that have not violated our laws, i get that, but you cannot -- what i have learned is you cannot even have a conversation about that until people believe and know and is proven to them that future illegal immigration will be controlled. that is the single business -- biggest lesson. >> whenever there is a budget deal made and they talk about we
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will have tax increases and spending cuts, you get the tax increase on day one and then the spending cuts 10 years later and never happens. is >> that happensed strongest argument against the bill. the president said i won't enforce the law. >> the fear of many people. everybody agrees that we have to deal with people that enter this country illegally have overstayed their visas. spending cuts, secure the border first? >> you can't just tell people we're going to secure the border. you have to do it. they have to see it working. then they have a reasonable conversation with you about the other parts. they don't even want to talk about that until that's done first. what has happened over the last two years the migratory crisis
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this summer, the two executive orders, that is more true than it has been. >> you are a first term senator from the great state of florida. we have a man in the white house, a one term senator, voted president as a state senator, had some very bizarre friendships in case you never heard me talk about it. i talked about it a lot. why do you want to be president of the united states? >> i haven't made that decision yet, sean, but good try to get me to announce it. >> on a scale of one to 100, where are you on the scale of committing to it? >> i don't know about the numbers. it's very sim. the only reason i want to be in public service i believe i owe a debt to america i don't believe i will ever be able to repay. some people don't think that way. i certainly feel that way. i think everybody in this room feels that way. [applause] >> and to me, to me for someone
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who has literally seen my family's entire destiny altered by the fact that america happened to be 90 miles from cuba instead of some other country, i have to pay that back. i have to make sure that people who are trying to do the same thing now get a chance to do it. i don't want my kids to one day grow up and say how come you got to grow up in the greatest country in the world and we grew up in a country that has diminished. where is the best place to serve my country at this stage in my life? >> you won't run simultaneously for president and the u.s. senate. >> if you decide that's where you have been called at this time in your life to at least run for it and that's the best place for you to serve america, that's where you run for. you don't think what is my exit strategy or plan b. i don't want to be in politics my whole life. i would like to do some other things like own an nfl team.
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i would have to sell a lot of books for that. >> one of the most pressing problems that the world faces right now, we have seen mass beheadings. we have seen people bender alive. we have a president that says the islamic state isn't islamic. >> they're not presbyterian. >> no, they're not. we see the rise of anti-semitism, we see hostility against the prime minister of israel. if you did become president, how would you deal with this crisis of worldwide terrorism, a group that wants to raise the flag of islam in the white house and meet all of us in new york. how will we deal with them? >> two separate points i make. understand why the president hasn't put in place a military strategy to defeat isis. here is why he hasn't done it, he doesn't want to upset iran. in his mind, the deal with iran is the obama care of the second term.
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they don't like it when we send military force in the region. they believe it should belong to them. what we should do, straightforward. isis is a radical sunni islamic group. they need to be defeated on the ground by a sunni military force with air support from the united states, the egyptians, the saudis, the turks and the kurds, put together a coalition from regional governments to confront them on the ground with u.s. special operations support and provide them logistical support and the most devastating air support possible and you will wife isis out. [applause] >> let me ask you, we're running out of time. if you were elected president quickly, what would be the top five agenda items that you would push hardest for in your first 100 days? >> the first is we need a healthy economy. tax reform regulatory reform repeal and replace obama care,
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fully utilize our energy portfolio and balance the budget. give people the skills they need for the 21st century, revolution anyways how we pay for higher education in this country. there are millions of good paying jobs out there. we should allow people to access the skill they feed in a cost-effective way. we need the strongest most powerful military force in the world and a american foreign policy. [applause] >> and an american foreign policy that tells the world it's bad to be our enemy and good to be our friend. the >> we're running out of time. this is our lightning round. >> abortion. >> i'm pro life. it's just as simple as that. >> gay marriage? >> i believe marriage is between one man and one woman. that's what it's been for thousands of years and it's served our people well. >> colorado marijuana legalization. >> i'm against the legalization of marijuana. >> should every law-abiding american, even in states with
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restrictive gun laws like new york, should they have the right to carry a weapon? >> the only people that don't care about gun laws are criminals. [applause] >> i throw out a couple of names to you. >> hillary clinton. >> yesterday. >> bill clinton. >> what's the next one? [laughter] >> really yesterday. >> barack obama. >> failed. >> last question you talked about your love for america and how we all really, we receive so push more than we could ever pay back. explain if you believe in american exceptionalism and why. >> in every other site, your future is decided by your parents before you. if your parents were rich or famous or politically connected and could pick up the phone and find you your first job, if
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not, you were stuck. the son of a bartender and a maid that worked at a hotel sitting on the stage with you today, that's why america is special. >> senator marco rubio, ladies and gentlemen. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> our road to the white house continued with rick perry at cpac. he took questions about border security and energy policy. this is 20 minutes. ♪ ♪ >> i come here today to speak
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plainly about the times that we live in. at no time, at no time in the last 25 years has the future been more uncertain and the world more dangerous than it is today. on three points, we must be clear. first, our country has entered a time of testing and our political leadership is failing the test. the american people see a president who bows to political correctness in denial of the threats that we faced making grave miss calculations to make the world less safe. now, this administration's incompetence in iraq and syria have allowed the emergence of a cyst. they're using american tanks, american weapons and i-cyst began taking -- isis began
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taking cities that just a few years ago were secured by american blood. now let's be very, very clear about who isis is, what they represent. they are a religious movement that seeks to take the world back to the seventh century. their aims are apocalyptic. they mean to cleanse the world, not just of christians and jews but of muslims who disagree with their extreme ideology. and it is their stated vow to kill as many americans as possible. it's time, it is time for the american people to hear the truth. [cheers and applause] >> the president declared in the state of the union that the advance of a cyst has been stopped and that is simply not true. [applause] >> he says that isis is a religious movement.
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again he is simply wrong. to deny the fundamental religious nature of the threat and to downplay the seriousness of it is naive, it is dangerous, and it is misguided. isis represents the worst threat to freedom since communism. if egypt and jordan recognized that they are at war with radical islam, isn't it about time our president proclaimed the same? [cheers and applause] >> we didn't start this war, nor did we choose it, but we will have the will to finish it. [cheers and applause] >> now let me state another obvious fact about the middle east. it is not in the interest of peace and security of the free world that iran be allowed to develop nuclear weapons. [applause]
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>> reports concerning this bilateral negotiation between the united states and iran indicate a deal on the table would allow iran to develop nuclear power after a certain number of years if they live up to certain treaty obligations. i believe it is fundamentally dangerous to grant iran's nuclear ambitions diplomatic cover. our discussions with iran should be governed by two nonnegotiate principals. number one is iran should not be allowed to develop nuclear weapons shall period! and number two, israel has the right to exist as a jewish state. [cheers and applause] >> amen. it's time, it's time we stood
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with the most vibrant democracy in the middle east. the administration's policy of isolating israel must stop. you know watching all of this unfold is the president of russia. he has been watching. as our president drew a line a red line in syria that was crossed without consequences and then this rushan president watches as our -- rushan president watched at our president -- and it was against this backdrop of weakness and empty words that putin annexed crimea, he entered ukraine. it was those conditions that allowed him to negotiate a one-sided cease-fire at minsk with no real consequences.
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here is the simple truth about our foreign policy. our allies doubt us and our adversaries are all too willing to test us. no one should be surprised that dictators like asaad would cross the president's red line because he knows the president won't even defend the line that separates our nation from mexico. there are no real consequences when dictators and adversaries defy america and this must change. for american to be safer, america must be strong. for america to be safer our border must be secure.
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gangs smuggle weapons and people. they are a clear and present danger to the health and safety of all americans. any conversation, any conversation about comprehensive immigration reform must begin with comprehensive border security. that's exactly why last summer, i told the president, i looked him in the eye if you will not secure the border between texas and mexico texas will. second point and i want to be very clear today the conservative movement must be a great agent of reform. to lead this country, we must offer a vision of change. our nation is $18 trillion in
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debt so every agency of government, every department out there, they must account for every dime that they spend, for the first time in american history, a generation of leaders is on the verge of breaking the social compact with the next generation and that is to leave a better country and with greater opportunity than the way we found it. with debt the size of our g.d.p. our nation is involved with generational theft. there are fewer of us that believe in the american dream that in any time in the last 20 years. for middle class americans, opportunity and security has been replaced with anxiety and worry. out-of-pocket health care costs, housing, college tuition, they have all gone up faster than wages.
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student debt is at an all-time high and this has to change. it is time, it is time to restore hope and opportunity to the middle class americans out there and we can start with our tax code. we've got the highest corporate tax rate in the western world and it is time to lower that corporate tax rate to lift up middle class wages. we can do this. it is time to provide easier access to credit for small businesses. these lending reforms are squeezing our community banks and our small businesses. it is time to bring jobs and prosperity to main street, not just wall street. and it's time, it's time to stop this overregulation by runaway federal agencies that
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you realize the regulatory cost , this regulatory cost hits american families for about $15,000 a year. that's the highest cost on your budget than anything other than housing. it's no surprise, though. it's no surprise that when one out of five american children are on food stamps because one out of 10 american workers are unemployed underemployed or just so discouraged they quit looking for work. i'm going to say this quite plainly, the unemployment rate is a sham. it leaves millions of american workers uncounted. if the republican party doesn't take a stand for these unaccounted americans, the
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answer is not to expand the welfare state, it's to build the freedom state. i know it can happen because we did it in my home state. our formula was simple. you control the taxes and the spending, you provide smart regulations. you develop an educated workforce and you stop lawsuit abuse at the courthouse. in my 14 years as governor, we helped to create almost 1/3 of all the private sector jobs in america. in the last seven years, we created 1.4 million jobs. you take those jobs out of the equation minus those jobs created in texas, this country lost a quarter of a million jobs.
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it's time to bring economic rearrival to every state in the country with policies that limited government instead of expanding it. now here is the third point. i have never been more certain than i am today that america's best days remain in front of us. the weakness and incompetence of our government shouldn't be confused with the strength, the engeneral out and the idealism of the american people. our experiment and republican form of government, it's too durable to be sidetracked by one confused administration. you think about it, we have survived worse. we had a civil war in this country, we had two world wars. we had a great depression. we even survived jimmy carter. we will survive the obama years, too.
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there is nothing wrong with america that can't be fixed with new leadership. you see, i see an america where a skilled worker with trained a job, where wages are on the rise and freedom is on the march. it's the birth right of all, not a government for a few select ones. it is time it is time for american to lead the world. it's time to stand with our allies. it's time to pursue an america worthy of our founders' ideas. it's time that we build an america where our citizens and their children can dream again. so let's roll up our sleeves, let's go to work and let's revive this great nation again. god bless you! thank you for being with us here today. thank you.
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[applause] >> thanks for being here. thanks for being here. thank you. >> governor perry, we have a few questions for you if you don't mind. >> there you are. >> speaking so clearly that was truly incredible, thank you. >> a few questions we have gotten on twitter, what would you do in the white house about illegal immigration? >> well, obviously addressing this i have had a little bit more than just a talk about it. i have had to deal with it and i think that's one of the major issues that we got with washington and congress is that they talk, they talk and people literally die. we had to deal with this issue last summer when there were literally tens of thousands of individuals showing up, some of them unacompanied minors on
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that southern border. i had to make a decision on how to deal with that because not only my state, but the country was being impacted by it. and the president asked me to come and meet with him on an airport ramp and i told him i would be glad to do it, mr. president, but i want to meet with you and talk to you about this issue about our border. we met and it became abundantly clear to me that he was not going to address this issue. i told him, mr. president, if you don't secure this border, texas will and that's exactly what we did. we sent the national guard there to secure the border and that's the point. if you do not secure the border first, you can't have a conversation about immigration reform. that's just the fact. you don't trust washington to deal with this. i don't trust washington to deal with this until they secure the border. we know how to do this. we can show them how to do it. we had a 74% decrease in the number of apprehensions in that
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150-mile region of the border by deploying our national guard, by putting the law enforcement there. i will suggest one more thing and that is of aias assets -- avian assets 24/7, fast response teams and we can secure the border. then you have a conversation of how to deal with this entire immigration issue. there are a lot of interesting ideas on the table out there but until we secure the border first. >> thank you, governor perry. there is lots of talk of climate change. how would you as u.s. president if you were to run, how would you secure america's energy future? let me address this issue i think there is some good examples of how to deal with our environment. as a matter of fact during the last 14 years, texas added 5.6 million people to its population roles 1.4 million
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jobs created in that seven-year period of time 2007 through 2014. 5.7 million people, that's lots of cars on the roads in texas. during that same period of time using thoughtful incentive-based regulations we degree creased our nitrogen oxide levels, which by the way is a real pollutant, it's a real emissions. levels were down by 16%, ozone levels down 23%. oxide levels down by 50% and our co2 levels were down, whether you believe in this whole concept of climate change or not co2 levels were down by 9% in the state. isn't that the goal with what we are working towards. you can have job creation and you can make your environment better. that ought to be the role of those 50 states.
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we put policies in place that helped remove old dirty burning diesel engines from the fleets. we were able to transition our electrical power system into the natural gas burning. that ought to be our goal in this country. it all starts with energy policy. open up the x.l. pipeline, create energy jobs in our country. that is what we should be working on in this country from the standpoint of creating jobs and making america more energy secure. >> thank you, governor perry, we appreciate you speaking so plainly on this. thank you for coming today. >> thank you, god bless you all. thank you. >> at cpac's ronald reagan
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dinner. he served six terms in the house from 2001 to 2013. cpac's multi-day event is hosted by the american conservative union. this portion of the annual dinner is 25 minutes. [applause] >> thank you, john, thank you for that warm introduction. good evening to you all, it's an honor to be with you among a large group of so many americans, men and women who represent the bull washing of
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the leadership of the conservative movement in the united states of america. i appreciate that kind introduction. the introduction i prefer is a little bit shorter. i'm a christian, a conservative, and a republican, in that order. [applause] >> you know, there is an old saying when you see a box turtle on a fencepost, you know one thing for sure he didn't get there on his own. that is certainly true of my life. and other than my faith, my family, my beloved wife who is with me here tonight and my fellow hoosiers, i rise to pay a debt of gratitude to all of you. i owe so much to cpac, to this movement, to the namesake of this dinner for the inspiration and opportunities i have been given. it is good to be back at cpac, the premiere conservative gathering in the united states of america.
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[applause] >> we gather in 2015 in a challenging time in the life of this nation, an administration paralyzed by ideology and incompetence has weakened america's place in the world and stifled our nation's economy. the challenges are daunting but the choices we must make are not. 50 years ago ronald reagan helped to birth our movement with his iconic time for choosing speech. today i believe we are come to another time for choosing. you either choose to view america as the shining city on the hill that inspires the best in all mankind or you don't. you either want america to stand by her friends and stand up to her enemies or you don't. you either are for limiting the power of the federal government or you're not. you're either for protecting the unborn and the religious
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liberty of every american or you aren't. [applause] >> well, i say tonight after winning both houses of congress, more state houses than ever before and electing 31 republican governs in states like maryland and massachusetts and illinois, the american people have made their choice and we are on the verge of a great american comeback for our ideals. [applause] >> i believe that because i believe in this movement. my grandfather immigrated to this country from ireland. my dad built a gas station business in a small town in southern indiana. while i actually started in politics as a democrat, when i heard the voice of the 40th president of the united states it all changed for me. i lived the dream of becoming a congressman from that small town and now i serve as
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governor of the great state of indiana. [applause] >> you know, i served 12 years in the congress and i love to say, if i only had 12 years left to live, i would want to live it as a member of congress. that was the longest 12 years of my life. [laughter] >> the truth is we haven't had a government as good as our government in washington, d.c. for some time. it's worse today than ever before. at home, the errors of this administration are too numerous to count whether it's the government takeover of health care or now the internet, the president's unconstitutional executive amnesty this administration's policies are sapping our national vitality and threatening our most americans understand you
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cannot improve health care by ordering every american to get health care whether they want it, need it or not. you cannot change the laws of this land by executive fist.at. you cannot raise the cost of electricity on working americans. it should go without saying obamacare must be repealed. the fcc rule must be reversed. the epa war on american energy must end. [applause] tonight, allow me to offer some advice, some advice to the rising generation of leaders have gathered here at cpac and may be looking on from across the country of how we might confront the challenges we face with renewed focus at home and abroad. let me submit that 2016
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could actually be the first foreign policy national election since 1980. and sadly, this administration has reduced our arm now its smallest size since 1940. the navy has fewer ships than at any time since 1916. and our air force has its smallest tactical fighter force in history. now history teaches that you cannot reduce our military strength without provoking our enemies. weakness arouses evil. as we speak, isis is setting up franchises across the middle east and is on the offensive across the arab world. now the president says the jobs are the answer to violent jihad. well, mr. president, jihadi john doesn't want a job. he wants to see paradise and i think we should help him get there as quickly as possible. [applause]
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with the growing threat of homegrown terror it is forne remember that our first line of defense is the right of self-defense. now more than ever the right to keep and bear arms must not be infringed on the american people. but violent jihad is not our only threat. china is massively expanding its military. the pentagon admitd that the china satellite and ballistic missile technologies are rapidly approaching parity with our own. as we gather here tonight a new iron curtain is descending down the spine of europe as modern russia seeks to redraw the map of europe by force. unlike the former soviet union that respected the strength of
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the west, putin's russia ignores talk of sanctions, claims land and supports rebels in ukraine -- we have to leave this now. the shouse returning to work on a seven day extension on the homeland security department. the list iran as by far the most significant security challenge facing the united states and its allies and its interest in the middle east. in a few days, the leader of our most cherished ally will come to washington d.c. to warn congress and the american people of the gathering storm he believes will strike his country and threaten ours if we allow the world's most dangerous regime to obtain the world most dangerous weapon. traveling to israel last december i met with prime minister netanyahu in his private quarters on the very day
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that the palestinian authority was trying to force a settlement on israel through the united nations. it would a compromise israel's security. i saw firsthand the resolve and determination of this courageous leader, who stands to often alone in times of great peril across the middle east. speaker boehner was right. to invite prime minister netanyahu to address our congress as such a time as this comic israel's cause is our cause. if the world knows nothing else, let it know this -- america stands with israel. [applause] you cannot command the respect of the world when you spent years apologizing to our enemies and abandoning our friends. lecturing the american people
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about the crusades while refusing to cause islam and militants by name is an abdication of leadership. calling for the defense of the united states is the chief responsibility of our national government. with everything happening in the world, i believe, my fellow conservatives, i believe it is imperative that conservatives, again, embrace america's role as leader of the free world and the arsenal of democracy. [applause] i believe the time has come to dramatically increase defense spending to confront the noble -- knowable and unknowable threats of this new century. no strategy or innovation, no
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matter how brilliant, will be sufficient to protect the american people and the sovereignty of the united dates. among other measures, we could revive the future combat systems of the army and the marine corps. revive the f-22. and rebuild our navy. a safer and more secure america is a stronger and more prosperous america. [applause] of course, our strength begins at home. our families, communities, businesses, states. second, let me suggest our movement also put the promise of federalism and state-based reform back at the center of the conservative agenda in the 21st century. as president reagan said, it's important to be reminded that "the federal government did not create the states. the states created the federal government." our states are not territorial outposts of the territorial government. they are a wellspring of
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vitality and reform. i should know. i come from a state that works. and the missed the shipping sense of contemporary sculpture -- culture law, we have stood without apology for the sanctity of life, the importance of marriage, and the freedom of religion. [applause] it is working. unemployment has dropped from over 8% to 5.8%. we have seen 100,000 new private sector jobs created.
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and last year we led the nation and manufacturing jobs created. test scores were a. life is winning in indiana. abortion is in decline in indiana for the fifth straight year in a row. i do not come here to brag on indiana. well, i didn't just come here to brag about indiana. i came here to encourage you. i came to encourage you, each of you with the progress that is being made in indiana and other republican-led state. urge you as leaders and activists in this movement to take encouragement from the results conservative policies are achieving in states across this country. after 12 years in congress and two years as governor, i am more
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convinced the cure for what ails this country will come more from state capitals than it ever well from the nation's capital. [applause] let's put state-based innovation and reform back at the center of the national agenda. let's look to the example of republican-led states balancing budgets and crafting solutions to the most intractable problems facing our nation. it includes getting runaway federal spending under control. when it comes to most public assistance programs, state are better equipped to innovate. manage anti-poverty programs in a fiscally responsible way. states cannot print money. during my years in congress, i never recall anyone focusing on revenue forecasts we passed a
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spending bill. in indiana, where we have balanced budgets, this year's budget will only be completed when we get the final revenue forecast to make sure the income meets the outcome. states are better equipped to innovate and reform those programs. we ended traditional medicaid for all able-bodied adults and replaced it with consumer driven health care and savings accounts. [applause] we have expanded access to health care, not through government mandates and taxes, but market-based reforms. on education, because we believe all honest work is honorable, indiana is crafting plans to be the first date in america to make career and vocational education a priority in every high school again. let's empower the states with renewed flexibility to develop positive alternatives. give each other room as a movement to try new ideas and innovate without reflexively rejecting policies that break new ground.
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wean ourselves off the idea all problems must get solved in our nation's capital. some say the next nominee should be a governor. i am sympathetic to that view. [laughter] all kidding aside, what i am looking for is not somebody that says, send me to washington dc and i will run the capital the way i ran the state capital. for those of you who served in the city, you know. it is not a state. literally or figuratively. i am listening for someone who says, send me there and i will make it more possible for the next person running my state to run it with more freedom and flexibility. that is the constitutional way. [applause] when we take back the white house and reelect a republican congress, let's make it aim to
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reduce the size and scope of the federal government by restoring the states the freedom flexibility, and resources bears under the cut touche and -- that is theirs under the constitution. finally, as we strive to be the party of solutions at home and abroad, let's be relentlessly positive. i have said for years, i am a conservative i am not in a bad mood about it. we need to be cheerful partisans. happy war years. lord knows, we need a little optimism -- warriors. lord knows, we need a little optimism. a man walked up to me with sad eyes and a weary look. he approach me to say, he supported everything i stand for. he said, do you think the country is going to make it?
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he had all the telltale signs of excessive cable television viewing. [laughter] i put my hand on his shoulder and said, of course we are going to make it. we are americans. we always make it. we always find a way. [laughter] but that man and millions like him are worried, understandably about our country. because of the failings of our national government. the national government does have all kinds of problems and flaws and weaknesses. america is not the american government. let's stop confusing the american government with the american people. ronald reagan said it best. we are a people with the government, not the other way around. [applause] i learned that lesson a long time ago, back when indianapolis was hosting all the living recipients of the medal of
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honor. we were dedicating our memorial to those great men. i was a top radio show host at the time. i had the privilege of interviewing those heroes. jack lucas was born in 1928. he enlisted in the marine corps at the age of 14. pfc. lucas was so to determined to enter combat that he stowed away to read he turned 17 at sea, a few for landing at iwo jima. the day following the landing, he was crawling through a ravine with three men. two enemy hand grenades landed nearby. the teenager used his own body to cover both grenades to save his fellow marines despite suffering injury. he was awarded the medal of honor by president harry truman. i had him on my radio show. during the interview, we talked about his experiences. he spoke with humility about his extraordinary courage.
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i asked him a question. i said, you are part of the greatest generation. he spoke with remarkable humility of his extraordinary curtilage. i asked him a question. i said, you are part of the greatest generation. you are probably really worried about the country when you see young people these days. in that moment, his countenance changed. he said, son, you don't have the first idea what you are talking about. i laughed nervously. this was live radio. i said, why don't you enlighten me. he did. he said, let me tell you something.
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growing up in the 1930's, we didn't have any more sense than kids do these days. we wasted just as much time and party to as much as read when the time came, we stepped up because we are americans. kids these days will do the same thing. [applause] as we say, i have been told. i did not know how right jack was until a few years later. a sunny morning in september 2001. that day i found myself in my first term as a member of congress in capitol hill. sirens in every direction. columns of smoke billowing from the pentagon. the next day, there were lines outside every recruiting station in every city and town across this nation. jack was right. [applause] in the years that followed, in my trip to visit soldiers in afghanistan and iraq, i saw the sacrifices of the new greatest generation. who stepped up and did what needed to be done.
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i say with conviction, the american people today, despite all the failings of our national government, the american people are just as strong and patriotic and generous and selfless and resilient and freedom loving as they have ever been throughout the history of this nation. [applause] i say with conviction, the american people today, despite all the failings of our national government, the american people are just as strong and patriotic and generous and selfless and resilient and freedom loving as they have ever been throughout the history of this nation. [applause] our nation deserves leaders who believe in the american people with an unshakable faith. faith is my final point. because we are not in this
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alone. the bible says, where the spirit of the lord is there is liberty. when we hold the banner of liberty high. and take up the cause of freedom abroad at home, we make his cause our own. we do not fight alone. my fellow conservatives, let's be confident and have faith. faith in america's unique responsibility and the founder's vision of limited and constitutional government. faith in the boundless capacity of the american people to craft solutions to be complex problems facing us. face in him who set this miracle of democracy on these wilderness shores.
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that he will fulfill his promise for this last, best hope. we have come to another time for choosing. i believe with all my heart, with your help and god's help once again, america will choose freedom. >> on the next "washington journal" tom shoop has the latest on funding the department of homeland security. and anna galland talks about efforts to recruit elizabeth warren to run for president in 2016. the president's request to congress to fight isis and urging more diplomacy with iran. ned ryan, founder and ceo of american majority discusses that conservative movements agenda. we will take your calls.
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down but also involve shootings. people in communities say that they don't believe it. >> on c-span's q&a. >> the house passed a short-term spending bill that would fund the department of homeland security for when we get it would give the chamber's time to work out differences. some republicans continue to push for a long-term solution. next debate from the house floor. this is a little over an hour. fornia. ms. roybal-allard: madam speaker, i yield myself what time i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. ms. roybal-allard: madam speaker my motion would instruct the conferees to recede to the senate position which is the responsible position of providing a full-year funding for the homeland security department.
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secretary johnson has warned over and over again that the republican leadership's refusal to allow a vote on a clean, bipartisan funding bill such as the one sent to this house by the republican-led senate is threatening the national security of our country. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman will suspend. please take your conversations off the floor. the gentlewoman from california deserves to be heard. the gentlewoman will continue. ms. roybal-allard: without a full year of bills, the secretary tells us he is unable to move forward on key homeland security priorities, including new investments in border securities technology more aggressive i.c.e. investigations related to transnational
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criminal organizations that engage in drug and human smuggling and human trafficking enhanced preparedness for responding to surging -- surges in illegal migration such as the one experienced last summer acquisition of coast guard national security cutters and the construction of the national biodefense facility in kansas, both of which could be delay and lead to associated higher costs. also at risk are the badly needed security upgrades at the white house complex and the issuing of state and local terrorism prevention and response grants so critical to supporting our local first responders. these are just a few of the negative consequences of not fully funding our department of homeland security. madam speaker, nothing can be gained by another stopgap
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funding measure but much can be lost. we should not allow ourselves or the american people to be fooled into thinking that the house can continue to delay resolving this issue without undermining the national security of our nation. or that the department of homeland security has been doing just fine under the continuing resolution and can operate effectively under the uncertainty of a continuing resolution for even another day, much less three more weeks. the dire consequences of not funding the department of homeland security are not the made up warnings of democrats. they are the warnings of the secretary of homeland security and the head of his agency. >> madam speaker, the house is not in order.
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the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman from california is recognized. ms. roybal-allard: let me again read a portion of a letter sent by secretary johnson to the bipartisan leadership of the house and senate regarding the dangers of either a funding
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lapse or another short-term continuing resolution. to quote the secretary a mere extension of a continuing resolution has many of the same negative impacts of a shutdown. it exacerbates the uncertainty for my work force and puts us back in the same position on the brink of a shutdown just days from now. the secretary ends his letter by saying that the american people are counting on us. again madam speaker, the american people are indeed counting on us and so far, the house republican leadership has let them down. this stopgap funding measure does not fully address our national security needs. it simply represents the complete and utter abdication of our responsibility as members of
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congress to protect the american people and our country. the senate has acted in the best interests of our nation and sends this house a bipartisan, bicameral agreement on funding for the department of homeland security. our enemies aren't waiting around while the republican leadership continues to delay a full-year funding for the department of homeland security or for congress go to conference in the hopes that sometime in the future we may have an agreement. let the house, like the senate, do the right thing and send this bill to the president. i urge my colleagues to vote for this motion to instruct conferees, to bring back a clean, full-year, bipartisan funding bill for this nation's
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homeland security. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman reserves her time. the gentleman from texas is recognized. mr. carter: thank you, madam speaker. i yield myself such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. carter: i rise in opposition to the motion to instruct conferees. as the house and senate came together to find a path forward on funding the department of homeland security, we must reck re-con sile our profound differences over how to hand they will president's executive actions. but a minority -- but the minority should keep in mind as we go to conference, majority of the american citizens oppose the president's actions on immigration and they've asked us to fight those actions. the house has acted decisively to fulfill the mandate. six weeks ago, the house approved a bill funding
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department of homeland security until the end of the fiscal year. the house also, by a large -- by large margins aprove proved six amendments -- approved six amendments to stop the president's far-reaching actions. the president himself has said no fewer than 22 time he is does not have the authority to change our immigration laws unilaterally. now the courts have weighed in, saying no law has given the president the power to make these sweeping changes to our immigration policies. the evidence is overwhelming on this side of the debate. now we can vote again, but the jut come will be the same. the american people have spoken. we must stand up against the administration's overreach on immigration. while it's clear the president will not fulfill or act within the bounds of the law, we in
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congress are here to defend our constitution, to provide those checks and balances that our founding fathers put into place to ensure the president does not act like a king. i urge my colleagues to join me in opposing this motion to instruct and i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas reserves. the gentlewoman from california is recognized. ms. roybal-allard: how much time is remaining? the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman has 25 minutes remaining. ms. roybal-allard: i yield three minutes to the gentlewoman from new york, the ranking member on the full appropriations committee. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman from new york is recognized for three minutes. >> madam speaker, i rise in support of the motion to instruct conferees to agree to a clean funding bill for the department of homeland security.
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democrats and republicans reached a deal on homeland security funding levels and related policy in december. republican leadership made the political calculation to hold this funding hostage to ideological policy riders reversing the president's executive actions on immigration. mrs. lowey: having failed to extort these policy concession, the senate has done the right thing and moved forward to pass a clean homeland security funding bill that does not include poison pill immigration riders. yet house leadership continues to dither, keeping alive the threat of shutdown affecting the agencies that protect our ports borders aviation systems, communities, and more. this motion to instruct would make clear the will of the house is for a clean full-year homeland security funding bill.
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this motion rejects spending another three weeks failing to give our critical agencies the budget certainty they need to hire employees, invest in new equipment and technology, provide preparedness grants on which our communities rely. a $40 billion cabinet level department must be able to plan more than three weeks in advance and must not be forced to rely on outdated funding levels or policies for one day longer than they already have. mr. speaker, madam speaker, enough is enough. we know that the senate cannot and will not pass a bill that irresponsibly ties homeland security funding to immigration policy. we know that the president would never sign such a bill into law. this charade is wreaking havoc
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on some of the most important agencies in our federal government. it's time, my colleagues it's time, my friends, move on. and the way to do that is through a clean full-year, 2015, bipartisan homeland security bill that we negotiated, democrats and republicans, house and senate let's do it. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman's time has expired. the gentleman from texas is recognized. mr. carter: at this time, i'd like to yield three minutes to my friend from florida representative jolly. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from florida is recognized for three minutes. mr. jolly: thank you, mr. chairman, madam speaker. i'm a new member of the appropriations committee. i fully understand and respect the significant place that this committee sits in. republicans, democrats, to keep the government funded.
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i know that. i think the first responsibility of congress is to keep the government open. but i take great reservation to my colleague's suggestion that somehow this is an abdication of our constitutional responsibility. nothing could be further from the truth. i want to make something clear to the american people today. all week, i have seen signs on the house floor saying that republicans are shutting down the department of homeland security. i've seen press conferences saying republicans are shutting down the department of homeland security. scaring the american people about something that has not happened. and here's what we have not heard. where are the solutions and where is the compromise? because i will tell the american people this today. my colleague -- what my colleagues on the other side of the aisle have said is it's all or nothing. i understand the interest in a clean d.h.s. bill. i'm sympathetic to that. but to take that position when we know that there are members of this body who take grave
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reservations in the constitutional overreach of the president, that's an abdication of the constitutional responsibility of this body. all or nothing is not legislating. signs are not legislating. press conferences are not legislating. legislating is reaching a compromise between two sides of the aisle with very different views of this. and i will tell you, this process has not gone how i would have wished it to go. but i know this. the nation is better and the congress is better when we have regular order and when we legislate the way the constitution has ordained. we cannot abdicate our constitutional authority to recognize that we have a bicameral bipartisan congress with a disagreement. and what we owe the united states constitution is the opportunity for us to find a compromise and so i'll ask you this. what if daca was removed from
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the d.h.s. bill the daca provisions. does that get us votes? what if we delayed the president's executive order until final disposition by the courts? does that get us votes? what gets us the votes we need as a body, 300 members, not 218, 300 member, where is the compromise. all or nothing is not legislating. i will tell you, it was a remarkable comment by the majority leader on the other side of this building this morning to suggest that going to conference is a waste of time. that is an abdication of the constitutional responsibility of this body. all i am asking for is that we recognize the difference and we ask my colleagues on the other side of the aisle, where is the compromise? because all or nothing is not legislating. signs are not legislating. scare tactics are not legislating. and press conferences are not
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legislating. thank you, madam speaker, i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentlewoman from california is recognized. ms. roybal-allard: i would like to point out that we have a solution and it is the bipartisan, bicameral compromise bill that was sent by the senate for us to vote on and that's what we're asking for. i now madam speaker, yield three minutes to the gentlewoman from california, ms. lofgren, ranking minority member of the homeland security subcommittee on immigration and border security. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman is recognized for three minutes. ms. lofgren: a lot of discussion has been that somehow the president has acted unconstitutionally or unlawfully. nothing could be further from the truth. there's ample legal authority for what the president has done, prosecutorial discretion is a long established practice in every area of the law, both civil and criminal, and when a law enforcement agency has only enough resources to go after a
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fraction of the individuals who it suspects of violating the relevant law, it has to make choices. there's no alternative. and in the case of immigration, not only do we recognize this, congress has specifically directed the -- the head of the department to set priorities, enforcement priorities for removal. . now in addition to that, the supreme court has recognized in many cases the need and really the authority of the executive to make these decisions. in the arizona case, it said federal officials as an initial matter must decide whether it makes sense to pursue removal at all. our own congressional research service has found that no court appears to have invalidated a policy of nonenforcement founded upon prosecutorial discretion on the grounds that policy violated the take clause
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-- take care clause. deferred action is nothing more than a tentative ref kabul signal to a -- revcobal signal to a noncitizen. not only is it attentive but the statute at u.s.c. 1182-ab-iii offers the period of stay in such cases. congress has expressly recognized deferred action by name repeatedly. and in addition to the statute, the formal regulations of the justice department and homeland security have also expressly recognized deferred action. in the reno vs. american arab anti-discrimination case, justice scalia said this, at each stage the executive has discretion to abandon the endeavor -- referring to the removal process -- and at the
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same time arizona i.n.s. has been involved in deferred action of exercising that discretion for humanitarian reasons or simply for its own convenience. the arguments that somehow this is unlawful are so far wrong because nothing in the recent executive actions conflicts with either the letter or the spirit of the immigration and nationality act or any other federal statute. i would note that the court in texas did not find the president's action unconstitutional. it suggested -- and i think wrongly -- that administrative procedures act applies to these actions. there's nothing in the history of the administrative procedures act that suggests that is the case. so i would just suggest that republicans fund homeland security, let the process work through the courts and i yield
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back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman's time has expired. the gentleman from texas is recognized. mr. carter: i reserve. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas reserves. the gentlewoman from california is recognized. ms. roybal-allard: madam speaker, i yield 30 seconds to the gentlewoman from florida, ms. brown, the ranking member on the veterans' affairs committee. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman is recognized for 30 seconds. ms. brown: thank you. thank you, madam speaker. let me just be clear. i am from florida. the number one responsibility of any member of congress is to defend the american people, and we don't do that by punting our responsibility to fund homeland security, period. you all need to stop playing games with the safety of the american people. >> if the gentleman will yield? ms. brown: the one that got on this floor and said it's a political football. if it is a political football you are the one that's playing.
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my time has expired. the speaker pro tempore: members should remember to convey their remarks to the chair. the gentleman from texas is recognized. mr. carter: i'd like to yield to the gentleman from georgia, mr. woodall, such time as he may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from georgia is recognized. mr. woodall: thank you, madam speaker. i thank my friend from texas. not just for the time but the work he's doing to try to fund the responsibilities of government. i've been in this institution for four years madam speaker, and i've grown to love this institution. i've grown to love the people who serve in this institution, and it is disappointing to me to see some of the tempers that boil over here and have that on display for the american people, but the truth is those
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tempers boil over, madam speaker, because folks here care. they don't care a little they care a lot. and what i've been grappling as we've been going through this process, how do we bring our passion to the president's desk in a way that can make a difference for our people back home? i look at the chairman of the appropriations committee here and the ranking member. for pete's sake, they passed a bill out of committee on this issue last summer. to watch this debate, you would think -- you would think that congress is so derelict that we put everything off until the 11th hour. not true, madam speaker. last summer the house passed this out of committee. now, of course the process broke down last summer. we passed seven bills across this floor. the senate had yet to pass one. i'm tired of figuring out who to blame here.
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i'm in the business of trying to figure out how to solve problems and the senate is making some progress. golly, they've had considered so many amendments than they considered all of last year. they're making progress. we're starting to get this train back on track. and what is happening here today -- though it seems so controversial -- is we've got a motion to instruct, madam speaker conferees. now, i disagree with the motion to instruct. the motion says let's just do what the senate said we should do. i don't actually think that fulfills my constitutional obligation, but the fact that we're even in a place today to instruct conferees, that takes us back. i argue if we pull outside we can find -- poll outside, we can find everybody down constitutional they saw the skit on "saturday night law"
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with a bill tumble on how a bill becomes law. if we pass this we will be able to demonstrate how a bill becomes a law when the house has a position and the senate has a position and they come together to work out those differences before it goes to the president's desk. madam speaker, i've been here four years. i can count on one hand how many times i have seen that process work. these issues are too important to say the other body took care of it, i'll just defer to them. the members of this body are too talented, they are too committed, they love this country too much for the 435 of us to come together and say we have nothing to add, let's just do what the senate said, i can't count the number of colleagues i have, madam speaker, on the democratic side of the aisle who love this
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country, care about this country on one hand. i can't count them on two hands. i can't count them on all of my fingers and toes because it's every single member. and the same is true on my side of the aisle. i would just ask my friends my committed patriot friends, it's three weeks to have an opportunity to have our collectsive voice heard. the american people deserve it. the nation needs it and our leaders on the appropriations committee, republican and democrat alike, have given us an opportunity to do it. let's take yes for an answer. let's reject this motion to instruct but let's do go to conference, let's pass this continuing resolution and let's restore some pride in a process that has served this country so well for so long. with that i yield back the balance of my time.
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the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the gentlewoman from california is recognized. mr. carter: he yielded back yes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from georgia yielded back. the gentlewoman from california is recognized. ms. roybal-allard: i just want to point out to the gentleman that ranking members and chairs of the appropriations subcommittee of the house and the senate worked together on the bill that we are trying to bring for a vote, that this was a negotiated bill by both houses. so this is not something that we are just trying to bring from the senate without the house having any input. this was the negotiated compromised bill of both houses. and now i'll yield, madam speaker, two minutes to the gentleman from minnesota, mr. ellison, a member of the
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financial services committee. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from minnesota is recognized for two minutes. mr. ellison: i'd like to thank the gentlelady for yielding. madam speaker just for people who are watching this debate, i'd like to take us back to december of 2014 when we passed this thing called a cronibus. all these spending bills together that we were -- that we spent money for the american people over the course of a year to fund our government except for the department of homeland security bill, which would be funded right through tonight, midnight tonight. why did we single this one bill out for this short term? for one reason and one reason only the republican majority wanted to pick a fight with the president over the president's execution of his lawful authority to try to solve problems in the area of immigration. now, a federal district court judge who has a long history of
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republican partisanship decided that he would issue an order stopping the execution of this executive order action. so now why don't we let the district court handle it, pass a year-long bill and look after the public safety of the american people? this thing is where it should be. it is with the courts. people on the republican side of the aisle, madam speaker, who say that this is unconstitutional, which it's not, now have the ball in the court they say they wanted in which is in the court's hands. so let us get about the business of protecting the homeland. madam speaker, i am from minneapolis, minnesota, and i am proud of that, but i got a terrorist group in somalia talking about what they want to do to my mom. that's a fact of my -- of my district right now, and i feel very bitter and resentful that
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we are holding up homeland security money. so i asked this body not to kick the ball for three weeks but get the business now so we can plan and protect our homeland. this is serious business, not a political football to acquire power. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from texas is recognized. mr. carter: like to yield as much time as he may consume to mr. aderholt from the great state of alabama. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. aderholt: thank you madam speaker. i thank the chairman for letting me speak on this motion. as a past chairman of this subcommittee on homeland security, i know firsthand how important it is for the funding for homeland security to go forward. the bottom line is the house has done its job. back in december, the house voted to fund the federal government for the fiscal year. we kept the funding for the
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department of homeland security on a continuing resolution so it would not lapse. by doing so we were making a promise to the american people, a promise that once we had a -- the republicans had full control of the senate, we would work together as a congress to ensure the president's unconstitutional and dangerous actions would not go unchecked. every president takes an oath under the constitution that laws of this land will be upheld. however, the concern that we have now is the president's directing federal employees to take unlawful actions. the house position on this bill provides proper funding. it defends the president's unlawful actions. the house has voted, the senate has voted and as my colleague from florida said earlier, once that happens when you don't agree you go to conference and that's how you legislate. i would urge my fellow house
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members to support the actions laid out by the speaker so we can move forward with this, so we can go to conference and act like true legislators and how the founding fathers in their wisdom had meant for this to move forward and i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the gentleman from texas reserves. the gentlewoman from florida is recognized. ms. roybal-allard: madam speaker, i yield one minute to the gentleman from pennsylvania, mr. boyle a member of the foreign affairs committee and the oversight and government reform committee. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from pennsylvania is recognized for one minute. mr. boyle: thank you. thank you, madam speaker. . today -- and i realize i haven't been serving in this body very long, only eight weeks, but today is the kind of day that drives most people nuts about congress. even though we all agree, senate republicans, senate democrats, in a more than two to one vote,
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house democrats and house republican, we can all agree we need to fund the department of homeland security. yet here we are, a few hours before the deadline once again playing around with the security of the united states. madam speaker we have a way to end this. we have the senate bill in front of us. let us adopt the bipartisan bill, get the homeland security department funded, and then we can move on and have this legitimate debate about immigration. thank you, madam speaker, i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the gentleman from texas is recognized. mr. carter: reserve. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas reserves. the gentlewoman from california is recognized. ms. roybal-allard: i yield two minutes to the gentleman from kentucky, mr. yarmuth member of the budget committee and the energy and commerce committee. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for two minutes. mr. yarmuth: i thank the gentlewoman if for yielding. madam speaker, i'd like to
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repeat some things i've heard over the last couple of weeks about this particular situation. quote, i fully believe we should not be playing politics with a national security agency like the department of homeland security, particularly given the high threat we are in right now. quote, the impasse on d.h.s. funding must end. responsible members of both parties must find some way to fund d.h.s. without delay. quote, the worst thing we can do is let our enemies think we are backing off. this is no way to run a government. madam speaker, those aren't my words. those are words from republican members of this body discussing the reckless game their party is playing with the funding of the department of homeland security. every rationale i've heard for not voting for a clean funding bill right now involves some kind of ideological orientation. we've got a lot of constitutional lawyers apparently in this body because people are arguing whether it's
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constitutional or not. meanwhile, we face threats day in and day out, both here and abroad, they are not being able to cope with. there's a great legendary conservative thinker and writer, william f. buckley jr. who once said idealism is fine but as it approaches reality, the costs become prohibitive. right now the cost to our defense, the security of our nation, are becoming prohibitive. let's stop this argument, let's do what we both agree on, and fund our nation's security apparatus. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the gentleman from texas is recognized. mr. carter: at this time, i yield as much time as he wishes to consume to the gentleman from alabama. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. byrne: i rise to oppose this motion and would like to address the house with the reasons why. i have been here far year and two months and i believe in my
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time here this is the first time we have actually been in a position to get a bill back from the senate on which they disagree with us and that we have even the opportunity to go to conference. now, when i took high school civics, it was my understanding that that's the way the process works. that a bill starts in one house, goes to another house, the other house disagrees, it comes back to the other house if the other house wants to discuss it, we go to conference and discuss it this house took an important position back in january. to fund the department of homeland security and we added some riders. now, we need to go to conference so that our position, the house's position can be fully discussed by the conferees for both houses. and during that discussion, we don't know what the outcome will be, but that discussion could lead to something that could get us a solution. and that's what the people of america want us to try to do, is get to a solution.
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so far, what we tried hasn't worked. now i wish the senate has acted earlier. i wish we could have got then back in time enough for us not to have to go through some of the gyrations we are doing now but we are where we are. and to go to conference and to give whoever is appointed as house conferees the opportunity to work with whoever is appointed from the senate as their conferees to try to arrive at something like a consensus that we can all vote for even if we don't feel 100% good about it seems to be what i thought we learned in high school civics class is the way the process is supposed to work. so i hope that we will go forward. i hope this motion is defeated for that purpose. so that we can do things in regular order which perhaps this congress has forgotten to do since it's been so many years since we've done it. now that the senate has acted and many of us including me, have said we wanted the senate to act, let's take their action
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go to a conference committee with them, and work on trying to get this thing worked out. some people say that this suspect going to work, nothing is going to come of it. i'll tell you this. if we don't try it it absolutely is not going to work. but if we give it a chance, then we can get something out of it that's a win not for us in this house or the senate, but a win for the people of the united states of america, the people we're here to represent. so i hope that the people in both houses and both parties can come together at least long enough for us to talk with one another not at one another, not from an ideology, not from a partisan standpoint, but from the standpoint of what's best for the people of the united states and for what's appropriate under the constitution of the united states. because we're also here as our oath

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