tv Hillary Clinton Roundtable in New Hampshire CSPAN April 26, 2015 12:27pm-1:06pm EDT
the states that you might think of. oklahoma has a universal pre-k program because their state decided they would invest in the early years to get their kids better for school. and i think that childcare problem -- i was looking at a statistic that it can cost as much as $12,000 a year in new hampshire for quality childcare. that is more than the community college costs, as i understand it. and what are we going to do about that? how can you expect most families to afford that kind of cost? so we have got to do more to support quality child care and universal pre-kindergarten because by the time a child enters kindergarten, a lot of their brain development has taken place, their vocabulary has been developed. so if we want them to do well in school, and i know there are a couple of retired teachers out there, you want our kids to do well in school, it has to start in the first five years, and
that is where you come in. and you were telling me about a light table and other things that you prepared for settings where little kids are -- that is all to stimulate them and give them a chance to develop that brain and learn more so they are better prepared for school. dave: thank you. guys, you want to start off? anybody? pam: my grandson goes to the head start across the way over there. it is filled with whitney brothers' products -- coat lockers, and in there are our little tables and chairs. it made me feel proud that i worked here that these people were buying -- also, the growing drug problem in the area.
we also need to see more for in -- for substance abuse help and our area. there are very limited resources here. and we would like to see something in that respect. do you have any further ideas? secretary clinton: i do, actually. i am really concerned because, pam, what you just told me, i'm hearing from a lot of different people. there is a hidden epidemic. the drug abuse problem, whether pills or meth or heroin, it is not as visible as it was 30 years ago when there were all kinds of gangs and violence. this is a quiet epidemic. it is striking in small towns and rural areas as much as it is in any big city. at the same time, we see steady
cutbacks in drug abuse programs, treatment programs, mental health programs. i see senator kelly here and i know how committed she is to try to get resources. so, we have a perfect storm. we have an increasing problem that it is only beginning to break through the surface so that people -- i think a lot of people are thinking that it is indeed, it is all of our problems. if we don't have enough resources so that if somebody decides that they want to get help, where do you send them to go what kind of opportunities today have for treatment? i'm convinced that the mental health issue, because i consider substance abuse part of mental health issues, is going to be a big part of my campaign because increasingly it is a big issue that people race to me. when i was in iowa last week, i literally heard from one end of the state in davenport to
council bluffs of the problem and how the state was shutting down with inpatient facilities and there was nowhere for people to be sent. we have got to do more. we have treatment in the affordable care act, which is a good thing. we have at least on paper what is called mental health parity, insurance companies have to take care of mental health just like they take care of physical problems. that we are just in the beginning of trying to figure out what this is. the whole substance abuse issues -- i will end with this. you have heard of the small county in southern indiana with them as an epidemic -- where there was an epidemic of hiv among the community because they were sharing and shooting up some kind of pill that turns a powder. now they have not only the drug abuse problem but they have people who contracted hiv. this is not something that we can just rush under the rug and wish it would go away.
we need a concerted policy, national state local, public private, and we need to help people like them. >> as a kid myself, i was a son of a minister. in the little tile i grew up in, i was the only kid my age who is not involved in drugs of some stores. the kids across the street use their drugs in the front lawn of the house next door. there is really no recourse at that time because this little town with the hundred thousand acres with one town cop and two local shares. it is not really a new issue but it's certainly an ongoing issue. hillary: that is exactly right. it is not new issue but it has
taken a new turn, if you will. i think more young people -- maybe because we stop the messaging of how dangerous drugs work. i remembered messages advertising that we would see all the time. you don't see that anymore. i think for a lot of young people, especially those pills i think they believe -- what is wrong with that? it is a prescription pill and it must mean it is ok. they don't know that taking it and mixing it will be dangerous for them. that is a good point. >> in the line with the drugs and things, you made a point in educating the kids at an early age. it might be advantageous to really push the drug issue better at headstart.
in a way that they will all understand and know it is not a good thing to do, even though your friends might do it. you don't need to do this. you don't have to. there are other ways. hillary: starting early. >> started early. hillary: you see this don't you? >> we start testing in order to come to work here. we want a truck free workplace. -- drug-free workplace. hillary: i think that sends a strong message to a lot of . a lot of employers are doing it or thinking about doing it. is that what you hear from your human resource contact as well? >> yest. we have big machines that people are running. if they are high obviously someone can get hurt. coordination and everything goes down. hillary: what are some of the
other issues? jim, what is on your mind economically and how use you see things for yourself and other families? >> my kids are all grown and they have established themselves and their doing their thing. i don't have to worry about them anymore the way i used to with young kids. when i talk about getting up in age, i worked for small companies all my life. most of them have just enough money to give minimal health care to retirement. i have very little save for retirement because of trying to make ends meet. there are few resources. that is the company that i left before i came here. a year ago, they close their doors because in the economy,
they were making side panels. i thought it was the way to go. so when they close the doors down that ended 27 years working for them. i found myself looking for a new job. thankfully, whitney brothers was looking for my skills to help them with their products and i'm very thankful for that. but i hope your ideas on health care and social security -- where those heading -- are those heading? i'm in my late 50's are now. 10 years from now, i'm hopefully going to work less. in regards to our company here, what can be done to help bolster our company here to help us all live a better life? hillary: for 27 years, was there
any kind of retirement account or 401(k) or anything? >> there was initially. that lasted until the economy went belly up back in 2008. our , down the two straight people were going to spend that extra bit of money to get a better job. -- our company went down the two. people went going to spend that extra bit of money to get a better job. the chinese and other people who are making similar items are cutting costs and we look at every penny that we put into this product here and we try to get everything out of it that we can. we have machines. we have the processes that we use. that would be dust the company
that i work for i thought was always the way to go. hillary: you really raise important issue because one of the really big problems we face is that american worker productivity has continued to go up. american workers work longer and harder and more productively than the vast majority of workers anywhere in the world. but it has been very difficult to turn that increased productivity into increased wages. and increased benefits. and in some cases where you have small companies, the margin is too thin and it's really hard to do that. in some places where you have big companies, they just choose not to. they'd rather do stock buybacks and increase the wages of salaries of people who have actually contributed to the profit. i think there has to be a look of a range of different kinds of companies because some companies have the cash and they make
decisions that lead to other workers in some people are trying to keep the doors open and the work coming and be successful and staff load. -- stay afloat. what we need to figure out is how we incentivize companies that have the cash to do more with it and how we support smaller businesses to be more competitive to get more market especially after work market. david and i were talking about how important it is for small businesses to have access to market openings. how do you get the best support you need for a website or for telling potential customers about your product? how do you compete with as you say, somebody doing the same thing in china? i think we have to look at this from the top and the middle and try to figure out what is the best way to do with it. on social security though, there is room to talk about social security. and i don't know how people can make some of the arguments they
make because if you look at how dependent so many people are on their social security, they work hard for it. they retired. they hold off her time as long as possible because they want to keep working, but they also want to get the maximum amount of payout for social security. social security trust fund according to the trustees, will be solvent until 2035. what do we do to make sure it is there and we don't mess with it and we don't pretend that it is a luxury because it is not a lush. -- a luxury. it is a necessity for the majority of people who draw from social security did i think there will be big political arguments about social security. and my question everybody who thinks we can privatize social
security or undermine and somewhere -- what is going to happen to all these people who work for the seven years of this other company? is just wrong. everybody take a deep breath. let's figure out what works and build on what works. let's not get into arguments, as i say, about ideology and rhetorical attacks and claims. let's just kind of take a deep breath here as a country and say, ok, we are going to have retirement issues. people who have worked hard deserve to have enough security when they retire so that they can have a good quality of life. so i'm 100% committed to that. >> this dovetails with what mary situation is -- i don't know her hopeless situation. she worked here a number of years and quit and then came back. can you talk briefly about why you came back and was in a
financial decision or just because you are bored or what? >> it was a financial situation. there were home repairs that had to be done. those things you have to keep up that you don't really count on. so coming back to work and i said why not come back to whitney brothers? it is a place that i know of and i am familiar with. i like the products. it was a financial thing. hillary: did you think, mary when you retired the first time that if you had enough resources to be able to take care of your needs and then something unexpected happened yuc? >> yes. i wonder live comfortable, but not above. just couple. hillary: did you start drawing social security? >> yes.
hillary: how much a month? david: you don't know the amount? >> will i have a retirement, to, but i drew from the social security. 1400 and month. -- $1400 a month. hillary: if you effectively still own your home, your still obviously very independent and able to take care of yourself. you're going to have a lot of expenses both predicted and unpredictable. when he came back -- you came back, did you believe that you are here for a period of years or are you going to take it year by year? >> part-time. hillary: part-time. >> going to catch up on those bills. it's the right thing to do. [laughter] hillary: they were calling you every day saying, why don't you come back? if that unexpected expense,
write -- it is that unexpected expense, right? david: one of the biggest problems we had, madam secretary, is getting good cnc adults that are trained in math and computers. we compete against a lot of local companies. you look at our ads in the local newspapers or on the internet and it is cnc folks a people love math skills. our machines are metric and our architecture deals are in standard. we need intelligent employees. we have the college and the high school people who have technical services, but it just doesn't seem to happen.
we struggle to find people like that. would you agree? hillary: i met young man and i don't know if he's out here. he went to the keene state college program to learn these skills. and that's what you need more of right? you need at the high school and college levels more programs that are related to the skills that employers actually need. what other job skills that you are trying to get? david: i think there's a place for humanities, but technical skills, the electricians plumbers -- those are the guys that we are looking for. hillary: i think we have to get back to encouraging more young people to see these as careers and then we have to have both more education base skill programs and employer-based go programs. -- skill programs.
other training programs that about public and private and try to give young people the opportunities. it's really important that we do more to publicize why these skills are going to get you a good job. i think we kind of lost the trend here. too many young people don't know -- nobody told them that you can get a really good job as an electrician, welder, you name it. the computerized numeric control systems that you are talking about on these machines -- that takes a year or two of training to really understand because that is a level beyond what we typically think of as technical education. so i would love to hear from you , and maybe start with you because when people come for a job interview, where have they gotten their skills or do they even know that those skills
would enhance their chance to get hired? >> i think the majority of people who come here have been at other places where they have done it. it is not really any school training. there is a career center at the high school, but it is more metal and more wood. they can go hand in hand but with our job, it is more for wood and on-the-job training. david: we are having to train relatively green people to run machines. it has worked out, but i mean, again, and the local marketplace, we are competing against a different companies that need cnc operators. we might train someone for a year or two and they might go somewhere else for a couple of dollars more. that is life. that is tough but we will like to think there would be a greater pool of technically
skilled people. >> it is hard to retain cnc operators because we are doing would manufacturing and we are going against the overseas people to keep our costs less. and we can only pay so much . hillary: you have cost pressures and skill pressures. first of all, we have to have more programs that are going to prepare more people. that sounds so simplistic, but we backed up what used to be called a complete education. we made a mistake because we backed off thinking that it was going to be picked up businesses or community colleges or technical schools. and that did not happen fast enough. it is starting to happen now with more more places where you can get these kind of advanced skills. we need to create a bigger pool of people in order to meet the needs that you're talking about. i visit a community college and iowa last year -- visited acuity
college in iowa last year that takes high school students and trains them on cnc and then they are able to be job prepared when they leave high school which is amazing. they still have a relative -- they might graduate 30 or 40 a year. when the demand is much greater than that. i believe approval of the president's proposal to try to make community college as free as possible. that would be a big help here in new hampshire where it is so costly. the amount of tuition is so high both in the two-year and four-year schools. but that still doesn't help and does not provide incentives for more people younger and older to go into these trades, right? >> i was going to comment. if i do switch jobs again for some reason, thank god i still have these skills as a graphic designer. i learned how to use a computer on my own without any education.
if i had more education, i might have been able to do more, but i can't afford to go back to school timewise as was costs. it is always hard. with health care and all that, taking a look inside of my pa y check, there's not enough money for me to go back to school to get new skills to enhance what i'm doing here or think about if i ever decide to go somewhere else. david: before i worked for whitney brothers, i took a class in community college. it was in the middle of winter. it is about an hour from here. i found this place and it worked out really well. hillary: what are your hours of operation deck o? >> it is eight or nine hours.
during the summer, we have occasional cruise on second shift because of the nature of our business is the busy months are july and august and through december. hillary: i'm just thinking. you have the equipment here. if you could get some kind of grant or other support from either local government or state government even the human college or the colleges, you could have a program at night. if somebody were to come in and basically say, we are going to designate whitney brothers as one of our training facilities. your expert employees we get some kind of wage bump because he would be the instructors. i just think that we have got to be imagining outside of the old box about what we are going to do to get our skills up and how
we are to get more people of all ages to have the opportunity to improve the skills. it is very hard to do if you're already working during the workday. but maybe there could be some cooperative approach that might make a difference. from my perspective i hear it everywhere. i hear that we don't have enough skilled workers with technical skills. we don't have enough rns. we have a pool and missing group of workers that could be employed in our existing industries. so how do we fix it? because if we don't fix it, we will not be able to be competitive and be behind the curve in trying to succeed. >> going back to changing the mindset. when i was in school and growing up, there was nothing wrong with being an electrician. or a plumber or carpenter. these were really good jobs. you can make good money doing
that. that seems to fall off the table. everyone wants to go right to the top. you've got to be at the bottom and work your way up there. i think we as we work in the high schools in the graduate schools at some point to get these kids. a lot of kids just don't want to go to school. didn't want to go to college. fine, you'll have to go to college to make a good living. -- you don't have to go to college to make a good living. you have to get it out there that it is ok not to go to college if you don't want to, but these are good positions. you can get a good job and make a good living and support your family by doing these other things. and i think that kind of got off track. hillary: i agree with you. does anybody else feel that way? >> when i was in high school, we have to have a semester or two of shop classes.
>> everything it seems got computerized and everybody wants to sit with their gadgets. or i will design computer games. that is what i'm good at. i love that and everyone's going to do that. it is true. you need a nurse. you're going to get sick come time -- sometime. we all want to live somewhere. we have to have people building our houses. we want to be here working out whitney brothers. [laughter] >> when your refrigerator goes bad, someone's got a fix it. >> we are not all computer geeks. i don't think i could be one if i tried. [laughter] you have to find your fit. but i think the generation coming up the it's that push to say -- needs that push to say here are the other things to do besides sitting in front of a
computer. hillary: one of the kids that they told me about at this community college advanced manufacturing program graduated from high school and got a $40,000 job as a welder because there was such a shortage and he got a two-year program and pass some kind of national certification. here he is 18 years old and starting off on a really good track. >> you probably know more about it than i do come up and i heard there are several high schools in chicago that are affiliated with ibm and it's an eight-year program. it is not for use in these kids are trained through high school and into this extended high school as it were. they are being mentored by ibm. when they get done, they are guaranteed a job at $40,000 a
year income. so you don't have to go to university of illinois and you can get your training right here. i think five out of the eight schools in the country or in chicago. -- are in chicago. hillary: at exactly the kind of model that we need to get and see where we could implement that. i think the trial approach is to first you what is working and do more of that. i think you make a very strong point. we have to persuade, practically young people, that this is an opportunity. this is part of the economy that really needs them. some might want to be computer programmers and some might want to be the best welder or plumber, but we have to make it once again attractive. for young people to feel like that is a good root for them.
david, we will give you the last word. how long have you worked here? david: 30 see if it a long time. -- 32 years. a long time. it is a wonderful industry and i get to work with childcare centers and you see three-year-olds running around and it's quite -- ivan and the old job. -- i have an and field job. i'm still a small business owner. i have the 3:00 am worries also. it is all not peaches and cream. in 2006, we had a flood in here and it was two feet of water. the spa was great to give us a low interest loan. but one final question that i might ask you this -- we like to
keep our machines up-to-date. historically, we have been able to write off the capital in the year that they are installed. in 2015, they are talking about reducing that to $25,000. i know that is congress, but i'm curious as to your feeling. if you're president, what can you do to help small businesses like ours to improve the equipment that we have and not make it so onerous that we can spread out and go do right by the iris -- irs? hillary: i think that's an important question and i can as sure you that i don't want to make your life more onerous. i want you to be able to invest in both upgrading of existing equipment and that new printing machine that you showed me if
that is going to make you competitive. i think we have to look at the whole tax system and try to figure out what is an economic investment as opposed to one without economic purpose because there are a lot of those where people are basically playing games. capital gains is supposed to be for example a way to reward people who make risky investments. starting a business and investing in some deals as business -- now it's just being turned. we have to take a look at the whole tax system, but i can assure you that i would not support anything that makes your business more difficult to run because you have a real business and you have a real economic imperative. you are in the production of goods and i want to do everything i can to support goods and real services and take a hard look at what is now being done in the training world.
which is just trading for the sake of trading. it is just wrong that a hedge fund manager gets a lower tax rate than a nurse or a trucker on assembly worker here at whitney brothers. i think we have to say, look, if you're doing something which is enhancing the economic productivity of your business and the larger economy, we will be open to that. if it is just plain back and forth in the global marketplace to get 1/10 of 1% advantage maybe we should not let that go on because that is unfortunately kind of art the root of some of the economic problems that we all remember painfully from 2008. i think that from your perspective i would want to be a president who made it as easy as possible for you to be as productive and profitable as possible because you have got 40 plus people whose lives and
families depend upon that. david: absolutely. look, great. it's great to have you here. thank you all for coming. i know the secretary has got a busy schedule. so i'm not sure how works from here. hillary: what we would like to do is a picture with everybody who is in the roundtable. i want to say hello to some of my friends right here. if you could come stand behind me, we can get a picture. can you get us all in? ok. get up close. we can get everybody closer. [laughter] hillary: don't get lost. awesome.
ok. this is great. thank you. sure, good to see. upstate new york, where did you grow up? >> johnsburg. hillary: did you skip their? -- he of their -- ski up there? >> once or twice. [indiscernible] >> they are in armed -- our age group. hillary: thinks a lot. good luck to you. >> i'm from hyde park, new york. you are in my neighborhood. hillary: so beautiful and so historically i love the hudson valley. >> it is nice to meet you.
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