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african american, 51%. 35 million people have no health insurance. we have a child care system which is a disaster. working families in most cases are not confident they can find that is what business people do. you look at cities all over america. what a san francisco doing? what can we see? from the business perspective how many small-business people struggle every day. >> an incredibly large portion. guest: i would say that a small businessmen would like to spend
his or her time worrying about their business is going to grow, not talking to 87 different people about how they will get health care for their workers. every other major western country has health care as a right. not only will that be a benefit to the people, it takes a burden off the small business. that is a good idea. what about family and medical leave? today in america, a low income woman gives birth, she has to go back to work in five days. is that morally correct? i do not think so. we're the only country that does not provide medical leave. there are hundreds of thousands
of bright, qualified young people in america today. they want a higher education but they cannot get it. they cannot afford it. i believe we should make public policies: and universities free. it helps america. when i talk about democratic socialism, take it in terms of precollege education, free health care. it makes sense to look at countries that are doing good things. we might have a disagreement on this. let me be very frank, when you have the most unequal level of income and wealth inequality in the major parts of the country when you have major corporations, i'm not talking about small businesses, not paint a nickel in taxes come i think that is wrong. i will do away with those loopholes.
host: i did want to hear from you, in particular how would president sanders addressed the needs of minority owned businesses. guest: when real unemployment is as high as it is right now i think we have got to invest in rebuilding our public infrastructure and i think we should invest in public education. the hispanic community is heavy involved in infrastructure. a significant percentage are involved in it. if we build roads and business, this will make america stronger more efficient. but will provide real jobs.
host: thank you for the response. i think we should talk about something that is very important to us and that is equal pay. in this country women's wages continue to stubbornly lagged behind men's. even when doing the exact same jobs. women learn -- are about $.70 on the dollar. first of all, whitey think that is. and as president what will you do to address that disparity. guest: i think it has to do with sexism. many businesses are owned by men. i think it is also part of a historical trend. where 50 years ago. women were working only a few hours a week, and they went home.
we have a vast majority of working women. it is unacceptable. i applaud your organization. to say it is indefensible, i don't know how women could justify that, compared to men. i am very strongly believe that it is good. to change. we have to move towards pay equity for women workers. women deserve the same pay as men. i believe the federal minimum wage is a starvation wage and is inadequate.
we should raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour. host: we are on the same page on both accounts. guest: are we? [applause] >> maybe this isn't a summer fling, who knows? >> is surprising to me. as you know we are being fired vigorously by many businesses who do not want us to raise the minimum wage and i applaud you and the organization for having the courage to say people cannot survive on a dollars an hour. host: if you look at our track record 3.2 million of them are collectively contributing to the growth of the general market. if you look at their employee
base. vastly, they are paying much more than the minimum wage. guest: i will give you some applause for that. >> onto trade. >> we were doing very well but let's go to trade. >> i have got to go. [laughter] >> an issue that the u.s. agency is worked on over the past several months has been, and we don't always agree with the administration to be clear that we have agreed on this. we have worked very hard on the trade agenda. in light of the fact that 98% of u.s. businesses that export, small businesses we believe having more markets abroad is a good thing. we have more than 95% of the global market being outside the united states. can you tell us a little bit
about your concerns with the transpacific partnership? guest: please don't understand my position as something where we don't trade with anybody. the question is we understand who benefits from the trade agreement. i voted, when i first got into congress in 1991 in nafta. i voted against it. i voted against the trade relations with china. why? i have always believed, that these trade agreements were essentially written by corporate america. by wall street. by the pharmaceutical industry. they were not written with the goal of improving life for people in united states. essentially, what they were
written to do is to say the logical operations, you do not have to pay workers in this country $15 an hour, you can shut down in america, you can move to china or vietnam, or mexico you can pay people substantially lower wages and then bring your product back to america. i believe that was the intention of this legislation. i believe that is what has happened. since 2001 we have lost almost 60,000 factories in america. second of all, we are in a race to the bottom. companies say to workers, if you do not take a pay cut, will go to china. as we have the opportunity in china. i believe in trade, but not unfettered free trade. i do not believe that american workers should be forced to compete with american -- workers
across the world to make pennies. i do not want to go on longer, but tpp has additional provisions in it which i do not like. what i want to see is a trade agreement which works for the middle-class and working families of this country, as well as people around the world. not just the ceos of large corporations. >> so the track record, would you classify yourself as anti-trade. >> nope. i am anti-trade agreement which results in jobs being lost in america. let's be clear we have lost millions of jobs as a result of these trade agreements. i'm against that. i believe we can establish trade policies that work for workers in our country.
that has not been the philosophy of the trade agreements of the last 20 years. >> onto one of your favorites, financial institutions. the u.s. htc works closely with the broadest array of financial cetaceans in this country, because they provide billions of dollars every year in loans. they are a reliable source, and a ready source of credit and capital for our small business. however, in the comes to large institutions and a similar position to governor o'malley re-instating the glass-steagall act which could break up some of the largest banks. it is a position that secretary clinton does not support. can you explain to us, and my members, why we should be supportive of your stance. guest: that is a huge issue.
we have six of the largest financial institutions in this country, who have assets equivalent of about $10 trillion. which is equivalent to about 16% of the gdp of the united states. you have a handful of huge financial institutions that have enormous economic power. they issue a significant amount of the mortgages and the credit cards. the first issue is, for a vibrant economy, do we think it is a good idea for a handful of financial institutions to have that much economic clout? to be honest with you, i think if teddy roosevelt were alive today everybody will understand
what happened in 2008. in my view, in my view, to a significant degree of business model wall street is not to get money out to your people. two small businesses. i believe in a boring banking system. people put money into banks banks lend out money they help people by money. that is called old-fashioned boring banking. that is what i believe. what wall street has done is create a business model which says, we do not care about small and medium-size businesses, what we care is about being an island unto ourselves coming up with an esoteric tool imaginable. it enables wall street to make huge amounts of money. in highly dangerous and speculative ways. that led us to the crash of
2008. which created the worst economic downturn since the great depression. i personally believe that the business model of wall street is corrupt. i do not trust these guys, i do not believe that they care about the economy of america. i think they care about themselves. i want a banking system re-have small and medium-sized banks were your people can walk in, someone will know who you are. i know your history. you'll get a reasonable price. you are part of the community. i do not want to have people of an island unto themselves, separate from a productive economy. i believe very much, that is my view for many years. if you check my record, you'll find while i was in the house we dealt with deregulation. we had the clinton people. we had the republicans coming before it. they said it is a great idea if
we merge investment banks. investment banks with commercial banks. with large insurance companies. i never believe that for one second. to my mind, what we have to do is reestablish we have got to break down the small businesses. >> i want to know that we say your people you meet american small businesses? guest: this is a huge issue. host: we will get to that in a second. an energy and climate. let's talk about energy and climate change. i think this week he -- you challenged clinton on the keystone pipeline.
saying, it is hard for me to understand how one can be concerned about climate change, but not vigorously oppose the keystone pipeline. the question is, what is your plan to strike a balance between business growth, promoting energy independence, while at the same time protecting the environment. guest: let me reverse the order of that question. i believe in what pope francis said in his recent cyclical. i believe climate change is the great environmental... planetary crisis that we face. i think that we have a moral responsibility to leave this planet to our kids and our grandchildren. in a way that is habitable. i have to reverse the order of your question. question is how do we do that? i have to tell you that the way
you do that is of the united states of america lead the world, we cannot do it alone, we will work with china, and russia and india, and all these countries. in transforming our energy system away from fuel into energy efficiencies. in such sustainable energies a wind and geothermal. the debate is over. the scientific community has told us loud and clear that climate change is real, it is impacted by human activity. for the sake of the planet, how do we go forth. i think president obama has made some good fighting against a whole lot of people who refuse to accept climate change. we have got to go further, if we're going to save this planet and transform the world. number two, how do you do that? i think one way is making home
is moving towards energy efficiently. we lack far behind europe and china. we have a modern rail system. we also need to be weatherizing homes all over the country, and building as well. we are seeing huge growth in solar, despite opposition from republicans in congress. we need to subsidize sustainable energy. to my mind, saving his planet for kids and our grandchildren preventing droughts and floods and extreme weather is a huge priority. i've invest very heavily in our energy. host: i would argue the point that since you brought it in the pope on your side of the issue on to race relations. let's talk about this a bit and
first-come i want to commend you for your long-standing track record, proven track record in the work you have done in promoting civil rights and equality for decades. like you, the u.s. hc believes in fair treatment of all communities. with that said, given the recent protests, as well as the criticism you have received for your response to this protest can you talk to the us a bit about this persistent problem in america. as president, how would you address racial tensions that still exist. guest: you are right they still stubbornly exist, there's no question about it and i suppose a positive development is if anybody thinks that
african-americans are not beaten and killed when under police custody for decades, you'd be sorely mistaken. that hasn't happened for decades. the difference now, is that a lot of that activity is being recorded. the whole world is seen what they're missing before. here is what i think. i think we have made progress. in terms of race relations in this country. our else, we would not have an african-american as a president of the country. we should be proud of that. anyone who does not believe that racism is alive and well in america, that we do not have hundreds of incidents of people his whole function in life is to pit white people against black people against black families, jews catholics, you'd be mistaken. that tragedy exists. what do we do about?
what we do about it among other things, is make sure that we have very significant police reform in america. what that means is that not only do we have body cameras, so we know police officers are doing. but we also have a new regime, i think force is used to much. some people saw the sandra bland video. frankly, if that was a white woman nobody believes that would've happened. yanked out of her car for no reason. thrown to the ground for no reason. thrown in jail. her crime was she failed to make a right signal on her turn. you don't get thrown in jail for failing to signal. so, what we need to do is take a look at minimum sentencing right now. we have far too many people in jail. for nonviolent offenses.
we have more people in jail for -- than any other country on earth. we need to dig a harsh looking some of our drug laws. too many people are being arrested and sent to jail for nonviolent offenses. i want to take a hard look at that. at the end of the day, we have got to continue the struggle, to become a nondiscriminatory society. we need people to not be judged by their character destiny people to be judged by their character and not the color of their skin. the justice department needs to be vigorous and fighting discrimination. fighting against improper policing. there is an enormous amount of work to do. host: so you think racism is alive and well?
guest: i think it's undeniable. host: do you think some people running for the presidency might be a bit racist? guest: one would hope, look you are never going to rid this country or the world. you stop and you think about this. i've been thinking about this recently. i cannot give you the answer, you think about to the origins of the united states. you remember what the settlers did to the native american? what atrocities were committed. then you had slavery. how many people died and were dehumanized. we seeing attacks against asians and latinos. i do not know why people currently feel good about themselves when they are putting down people. the statements that donald trump made were clearly outrageous. it troubles me very much that
the candidate for president would stoop to that level. host: good response. onto the hispanic electorate. in 2012 it's no secret that president obama garnered 72% of the hispanic vote. never before has the hispanic vote late catch a critical role. i went further, i said i believe never again will an american president be elected without openly courting the hispanic vote. every 30 seconds a hispanic turns 18 and becomes a voter. 60,000 a brand-new voters every month. that is the next 21 years. the question is, are as a presidential candidate, what
will you do to attract and mobilize america's hispanic voters? guest: on our campaign we are making progress on that and i think you'll see us doing more outreach to the latino community and we are starting to... do that. i think we will do well for two reasons, number one, aren vestige of social justice. in vestige that says every young person has the right to higher education. we can establish tuition free public college. i think that will be a popular and meaningful proposal. it will be especially good form struggling hispanic communities. the idea that when youth unemployment, is 36%. that rather than seen as kids go to jail, we should invest in jobs and education.
i think that will be appealing to the hispanic community. health care for all. appealing to the community. i think our economic agenda serves that we have to reach out to working-class boating families come and give the dignity, give them jobs. that will be a proposal that many hispanic families will respond to. there is another issue come i guess we can get into the issue of immigration. or do you want to save that one? i think we have an economic message that speaks for all working americans. given the fact that a disproportionate numbers of hispanics and african-americans are struggling economically, i think it strongly to them. host: if i captured the essence of the response, you would solve social issues and challenges to
economic solutions. guest: in a certain way. one cannot turn one's back on the fact that 30 6% -- 36% of the hispanic youth are unemployed. those have to be addressed. we have to break down discrimination in america. i would have a department of justice which would be vigorous in fighting discrimination all levels. host: some candidates have been accused. of what i call hispanic. specifically do you have a track record regarding issues that you think are important to the hispanic community? guest: above and beyond. i will give you an example. i have to be honest i come from , a state that is 95 percent white. that's the reality. i am proud to represent that state. i want all of you to come visit.
i will tell you a story if i might. in 2007 if i recall, i learned about a horrific situation which was existing in florida. in motley florida, it was a small town where turns out most of the tomatoes that were used by mcdonald's and burger king, that is where they are grown. i went to motley to stand with the undocumented tomato workers who are being exploited in the most horrific manner. because they are undocumented. they have no legal rights. if you can believe it, coincidently on the day that i was in motley, the front page of florida said a local contractor there was charged, you know he was charged with? slavery. slavery.
slavery in the year 2007. he was holding workers involuntarily and forcing them to work. that is how bad the situation was. people were getting horrendously low wages. i went to the homes there. terrible. overcrowded. shacks. the working conditions were abysmal. after i was there, we worked with the people who were there. we held a hearing on my committee, health education. it was then shared by the late ted kennedy, a good friend of mine. to make a long story short. the impact of that was, along with of -- a lot of other things. to improve the living wages. the second remark i do not have to do that. it gets the votes back home. i did it because it was the right thing to do. when undocumented workers get exploited, every worker in america suffers. host: you happen to be talking
-- [applause] you happen to be talking to an english as an english as a second language some of immigrants. i don't get paid my personal opinion, but that is my personal opinion. onto immigration. on immigration, our issues and reform, as an economic imperative. we think it is critical for the continued well-being of our economy. the question is how do you propose the power of immigration for our economy to continue to be the most competitive economy in the world. guest: for a start, i think economically and morally it is unacceptable that we have millions of workers who are living in the shadows. by the way, i am the son of an immigrant. my dad came from poland without any money.
here's a story, i was in louisiana. on sunday. a group of young latino kids came up to me, a beautiful young lady maybe 16. she was saying that she was scared to death every day that she or member of her family will be deported. we have the moral issue of 11 million people who are undocumented in the country. some of my republican colleagues think the solution is to go in the middle of the night round of everybody and throw them out. anybody thinking about that, is ugly beyond belief. clearly, we have got to do is provide comprehensive immigration reform. we need a path toward citizenship. that is not only the right thing to do, but for your point it is economically the right thing to
do. when people are working who are undocumented and have no rights, it impacts the whole economy to the tune of many billions of dollars. i want to make two points. maybe you agree to me. the first point is, i'm sure you do agree is that suddenly every undocumented worker disappears, the economy would collapse. especially in agriculture. it would collapse, and many other areas, construction as well. the second area is, people talk about illegal immigrants. there is such a thing as illegal employers as well. people do not come over the wall and get jobs without the full expectation that the employer knows exactly what is going on who pays them under the table and exploits them. i find it very interesting that many of my political friends
enjoy that reality. to your point, the economy becomes stronger when people have legal status. when people do not have to worry about being picked up and deported. where families are not separated. where the economy becomes stronger or people are part of the workforce, working decent wages. holding her heads up high. i believe, as quickly as possible that we should provide legal status to undocumented workers. i think we should bring families together, not separate them. i support president obama's actions. i think we might want to go further. certainly, we need to demand that the republicans in congress stop turning their backs on this issue and pass comprehensive immigration reform. host: i would like to ask a quick follow-up. recently you criticize the portion of the gang of a bill for wanting to raise the of
cap of these these is from 65,000. on that portion of the bill we do not agree. guest: when we talk about my mind and argue with me if you want. here is the way i look at it i situations. i see the absolute need to provide legal protection for undocumented people who are in this country. on a path toward citizenship, i would go fast and frankly on the bill. here is where i do have concern there is a reason why wall street come and all of corporate america likes immigration reform. it is not in my view that they are staying at nights worrying about undocumented workers.
what i think they are interested in, is seen a process by which we can bring low-wage labor of all levels into this country to depress wages in america. i disagree with that. i mentioned to you that unemployment rates, for kids in this country, high school kids, african americans is 51%. i do not believe that we should be bringing in significant numbers of unskilled workers to compete in the market. that is my view. i want to see these kids get jobs. part of the immigration bill pass a couple of years ago, i managed to get a $1.5 billion program for youth to get jobs. you have many corporations that say they cannot get the high tech guys they needs.
in some cases that's probably true. on the other hand i have talked to julie people in the high-tech industry who say there are hundreds of people in this country who would like to do that work, but what these corporations are doing is going outside of the country so they can pay people from russia eastern europe lower wages than they can american people. i think that is wrong. what a company has got to do is say ok, look we have looked all over new york, where looked over california we cannot find any a high-tech workers or engineers therefore we go out of the country. first of all, you have to make sure they have gone through an exhaustive process to make sure that the jobs go to the people in this country first. host: in your view you think that these high-tech conglomerates want to bring immigrant labor in so that they can depress wages. wouldn't you think, though,
it is may be training and educational issue. that these young people, do not have the skill sets. isn't this more a training and education issue, then it is raising or lowering the caps on h-1? guest: the answer is an unequivocal yes and no. we agree that we are doing an abysmal job educating our young people for certain types of jobs. i have no doubt, and i know for a fact, there are highly skilled good paying jobs. they it -- that our educational system has not alone again americans to get. i accept that. on the other hand, i will tell you that there are corporations who like high tech skilled people from russia and other countries. they bring in lower wages.
host: let's move on. mr. senator, is there one differentiating issue in your platform that you think truly distinguishes you and gives you the best chance to connect with voters in this country. guest: i do. if you check my record, and i urge people to do so. about my political life, when i was mayor, number of congress, i have taken on virtually every powerful special interest in the country. i have taken on the private health insurance companies. i have taken on the pharmaceutical industry. for people in my state over the canadian border, they checked
the price that women in vermont were paid for breast cancer. i took on the military-industrial complex. i held lead the effort against the greed of wall street. -- help lead the effort against the greed of wall street. i think at this particular moment, where so few have so much wealth and so much power. that if we are going to expand the middle class, if we're going to make sure all of our kids in this country get a good education, and are able to get a higher education. if we are going to provide health care, with family and medical leave, if we're going to create the kind of nation that allows all of our people to have a decent standard of living with decent jobs and income. we need leadership now, that is prepared to take on the
billionaire class. i know that sounds kind of scary. but, what we have right now, not everybody agrees with me. in my view we have a small number of people, with incredible wealth and power. who, not only have a huge control of the economy. but as a result of citizens united, have a huge control of the political process. how would you define a political system, in which one family the koch brothers own about $85 billion. they spent more money on this election cycle than either the democratic or republican party. one family. is that a democracy to you? it is not. it is an oligarchy. what we have got to do is really the american people, to say enough is enough. this is the wealthiest country in the history of the world. we can provide health care and a decent standard of living to all of our people.
but in order to a copper's that, we cannot be naive. -- in order to congress that. this is not about electing bernie sanders. i can do very little. unless there is a movement of people behind me, prepared to stand up to these very powerful people. that is where i think it is not only the agenda that i have outlined to you. it is the belief that we need a mass political movement. 80% of young people do not vote, they did not vote in the last election. if 53% of the people don't vote you see any change. host: as a follow-up hypothetically let's say you continue to gain momentum in the coming months, but in the end you find yourself on the heels of hillary, but still, you end up falling short. of the nomination. do you feel that you 08 to those
people -- o it to those people, to feel very strongly. it is clear they feel the burn. [applause] guest: it looks like we have a few in the room. host: if i call upon you, would you run as an independent. guest: the answer is no. here is why. i am the longest serving independent. as i was contemplating what to do, one of the decisions i had to make, and there were a lot of people who said run as an independent. the democratic rubber component party -- republican party is too extreme, and the democratic party is to cozied up with big government. i thought about it, i reached the proper decision. that for a lot of reasons, at this particular moment in
history, that we can write an effective campaign, was within the democratic primary process. that is what we are doing. to answer your question, if it happens that i do know when that process, outside of the system, i will not run outside. the reason for that, as i do not want to be responsible for electing some right wing republican of the united states. [applause] host: so, thank you for spending time with us today. in ending the discussion, want to ask a final question. you compared our nation's shortcomings when it comes to issues like public health care and education. you have compared us to nations like denmark, norway, sweden. and we come up short just about on every front. but to put things in a different context.
according to our information ohio's economy at about 575 billion is slightly larger than norway. north carolina is that 500 billion. it is slightly larger than denmark. so, if you look at the total u.s. gdp. we are at about 17 trillion. if you took denmark, nor a common sweden -- or sweden you could put it into america and shaken around. is it fair to compare our nation, without complexity and gdp, to nations like norway, sweden -- i love norway and sweden. do you think that is a fair comparison? guest: that is a fair comparison.
we are far more diverse nation. then these countries. they have never had our problems with immigration. it is not a question of the size of the gdp. and you are, of course right, we have a huge economy. i guess i would say to you, that no matter the size of the country, or the complexity of our economy, should we have the highest rate of childhood poverty come almost 30% of any other western industrialized country? i do not care about the size or complexity, i think we have got to do that. should we be the only country. -- is a possible to have a large country that has a health care system for all people? i'm about an hour away to the
canadian border, we are much larger than canada, but they're not a small country. they have had a single-payer system which works pretty well. the uk's not a small country. they have a more socialized system. to answer your question, i'm not comparing the size or complexity of america with sweden or denmark. i'm talking about a vision of where we want to go. i think we could guarantee health care to all people. we certainly could have family and medical leave, paid vacation time, paid sick time. we could also have much fairer taxes which would result in a lot less income inequality. host: good response. i think we have a few questions for -- a load of time for some questions. any questions from the folks in
the audience? >> we begin with this young man in the white shirt right here. your -- >> your answers on building jobs and putting people back to work, does that have to come at the expense of your environmental planning you have laid out? guest: great question. is there a contradiction between creating jobs and protecting the environment? let room -- let me repeat what i said. i believe that we have got to be extraordinarily bold and aggressive in dealing with climate change. i also believe that it is not a contradiction to be talking about rebuilding our crumbling infrastructure. for example, among other things if you have a strong rail system. that will take a lot of trucks off of the road. it will be much more energy efficient.
when you weatherize homes like we do in vermont, you are creating jobs, and creating massive cuts in carbon emissions. i do not say contradiction. i think we can move aggressively towards a sustainable energy and energy efficiency. and create jobs in doing that while at the same job -- same time combating climate change. >> where is dan from cnn? dan? >> you voted against. at the time, you said we must strengthen our borders and not allow people to so easily come into the country long overdue and absolutely right. why did you say that back then? now you're saying you would not build a wall. guest: there is a significant difference in scope, the tween
what the recent bill does compared to at that bill does. my concern about the bill i am voting against, doing exactly what we discussed which is that there is too much emphasis on bringing low-wage workers into this country. ok? what i want to see, and what is better about the recent bill, is number one, that there is a path toward citizenship, which is absolutely essential. second of all, that they was -- that i was able to get a significant amount of money into providing jobs to young people in the country. that is the difference between those two pieces of legislation. >> i'm from the associate press. [inaudible question]
please talk about initiatives you have in mind for the western hemisphere. in particular the latin america and what you have in mind. guest: as i mentioned, i voted against nafta for a number of reasons and i remind you, if you look at the impact that nafta has had on mexico, or one... one of the impact it has had talent is massive dislocation of small farms in mexico. we knocked a lot of workers off of those farms into the cities and into very bad situations. second of all i will do that i am concerned and how aggressive china has been in moving all over the world. latin america is our neighbor.
i am not, i support very strongly the president's initiative. in normalizing relations with cuba. i think it is a step forward. they -- to a significant degree we ignore those people who are closest to us. we do not have to tell anybody in this room that what we have seen in guatemala, or el salvador, and the time of -- the type of violence and mob rule we have seen her. that is something we have to address. we have to speak about our foreign policy. i voted against the war in iraq. i think history will show it was the correct vote. if you read some of my speeches at that point, what -- much of what i feared what happened did happen.
>> msnbc. [indiscernible] reform group responding to your interview, a very tough statement saying you are wrong on immigrants. they say your statements are troubling. that you falsely paint immigrants as opponents to unemployment. how can you respond to that? guest: we have to be careful at defining the word immigrant. what they are talking about is completely opening up the border. that was the question. should we have a completely open border? so that anybody can come in? if that were to happen, which i disagree with. there is no question in my mind
that would substantially lower wages. we have 36% of hispanic kids who cannot find jobs. and you bring a lot of unskilled workers into the country, what do you think cap as that 36% ecco --? 51% of african-american kids, there is no president who thinks we should open up the borders and not see that as having a negative impact. to my mind, what do we do? how we address this problem go --? we work towards legal status. we provide protection for those people. but to simply open the borders of america, do you think there is any candidate for president who thinks that makes sense, i don't think so. >> police foley with the huffington post.
>> i want to follow up more narrowly and open borders. do you believe economists are wrong, immigration improves the economy and can create american jobs? do you believe leave -- believe that is wrong ecco --? guest: the question i was asked is an open border. i do not support an open border. immigrants have built this country. copiers family came as immigrants. -- copy air. people are coming from all over the world with their own particular sets of skills and ideas. that is what makes america a unique country. that makes us strong.
we have a path towards citizenship for those people. that is different than say we will not have any borders at all. host: i think we agree on one more thing, immigrants make america more america. guest: that is a huge part of what makes america great. host: closing thoughts. guest: first off, thank you very much for inviting me here today and for the work you are doing. i want to thank everybody that put me here today. let me just conclude, by saying this. i think you did the nail on the head, we are a great country. my dad comes from poland your family came from mexico. my wife's family came from ireland. we have people whose family came from africa. that is extraordinary. we bring those energies, and those ideas in those cultures
together, we bring a very unique country. i think that now we face some huge problems, having to do with income and wealth inequality. in a disappearing middle class. i have absolute confidence, that if we stand together and you not let folks at their divide us, because your family came from mexico, and because my family came from poland, not divide us because you are a woman and he is a man or because you are black and you're white, or because you are day and you are heterosexual. if we prevent ourselves being divided on those bases, and we stand together and say all of our kids deserve the right to go to college, all of us deserve health care, yes we are going to have issues. no we are not going to have campaign finances that allow billionaires to buy elections. when we stand together, the
future of this country is extraordinary. that we allow them to divide us i worry very much about us. thank you so much for what you are doing. i enjoyed being with you today. host: ladies and gentlemen bernie sanders. [applause] [applause] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] http://twitter.com/cspanwj [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2015] >> our live coverage from manchester new hampshire is from
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questions about the epa kuwait -- epa's clean power role -- rule. host: good morning. it is friday, july 31. the house is officially on often -- august recess today while the senate is set to return monday for one more week of work. yesterday congress approved in other short-term extension of the highway bill while the senate set the stage for a high-profile vote early next week on funding for planned parenthood. in international news this morning, beijing one its stake to host the 2022 winter olympic games. that comes in a week in which boston withdrew its 2024 summer olympics been over cos