tv Presidential Candidates at the Iowa State Fair CSPAN August 22, 2015 8:00pm-9:31pm EDT
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hello, iowa. i am so proud to be back at the soapbox at the iowa state fair. this is my third opportunity to be up here on the stage at the des moines register soapbox. this is such an important opportunity to really talk about the choices we have in front of us over the next 16 months. what i do every year is, this is one of the best fairs in america. iowans clearly believe it is the best fair. every time i am here, i have brought one of my kids. i have my third child with me. it was her turn this year. we spent the afternoon at the fair yesterday and it was an incredible time. i can't begin to describe to you the amount of fried food that we ate on a stick, which is something we look forward to every year. my son in advising my daughter that she should definitely come with me this year said, rebecca,
you should go because, not going to lie, it was my best food day ever. in his 15 years at the time, that was saying a lot. i'm so glad to be here, because there's a little bit going on in the political world today, and you have had an opportunity to hear from a number of candidates. i have the privilege with talking with you about the very clear contrast and the two choices we have to be able to make in america over the next year or so during the course of this presidential campaign. we are at a crossroads in america. we have had republicans who you have heard from you have time and time again said, you know what, the best thing to do is not to go forward, but to go backwards. let's go back to the failed trickle-down economic policies of the past, those policies that say we could focus on cutting taxes for the wealthiest, most fortunate americans, instead of
democrats who believe that we should focus on helping people reach the middle class. as a mom with three young kids, as a member of congress, the lens through which i look is, what are our policy choices going to mean for their adult life? what kind of america are they going to grow up in? i want them to grow up in an america that gives them a fair shot to get ahead, that makes sure everybody has an opportunity to succeed, not just the people who are already successful. that is what republicans have been focused on. you can see consistently that whether it is jeb bush, marco rubio, john kasich -- there are so many of them. it's tough to remember them all. donald trump. they think it's a good idea to protect people at the top. if you take a deeper dive into the policy positions they have
taken, they are not only not supportive of helping move america forward, but they really want to take us backwards. they almost seem like they are focused on making sure that people have a harder time getting ahead. i will give you several examples. let's talk equal pay. democrats believe in equal pay for equal work. [applause] it is unacceptable in america today that women still only earned $.78 for every dollar a man earns. does anybody here and the crowd think that is ok, we should leave that status quo in place? i have two daughters. i want to make sure that when they are adults, they get paid the same for doing the same work as a man does in the same job. it is unacceptable in american today that african-american women and latina women earn even less. african-american women today
earned $.64 for every dollar that a man does doing the same job. latina women earn $.56 in the same situation. that is an unacceptable policy. and how do republicans respond? like scott walker did. as governor of wisconsin, scott walker signed legislation to repeal equal pay enforcement in wisconsin. rick perry vetoed equal pay legislation, as did chris christie. marco rubio suggested that making sure we can enforce federal law, the equal pay act, was wasting time. well, i will tell you is a woman and a mother of two daughters and a representative of constituents of my own in south florida, i want to make sure we
fight not only to support equal pay but to enforce it. that is what every one of our presidential candidates believes. let's talk about health care. [applause] the important thing to focus on over the course of the next year and a half is what is the contract, what are the choices we have? which candidate for president is going to be supportive of the cornerstones of a middle-class life? what are those? that includes making sure you have a good roof over your head, you have access, you maintain access to quality, affordable health care. it means making sure you get a good education, that you have a secure retirement. those are all cornerstones of a middle-class life. let's look at the republican record on all of those things. as soon as the republicans took the majority after the 2010 election, they passed legislation in the first 100 days that attended to repeal all of president obama's efforts to ensure that people could remain
in their homes. when president obama took office, we were losing 750,000 jobs a month. and now you fast-forward to today. we've had 65 straight months of job growth in the private sector. more than five full years of job growth. the last several months have seen more than 200,000 jobs created. that's the kind of progress that we want to continue to see. but not under a republican presidency. we would not see that under a republican presidency because they don't support making sure people can keep a roof over their head. every candidate for president on the republican side has as a top priority to repeal the affordable care act. what does that mean? that means 16 million americans who have gained access to health care coverage would lose it. it means that young adults who can stay on their parents' insurance until they are 26 years old would no longer be able to.
what it means is that the 129 million americans, like i am, who lives in this country -- i was diagnosed with breast cancer at 41 years old -- besides that horrible feeling of not knowing whether you are going to be able to see your children grow up, the second fear you have as a breast cancer patient is, when is the other shoe going to drop? this was before the affordable care act. is the insurance company going to drop my coverage or deny me coverage because i have a pre-existing condition? no one should face medical bankruptcy. no one should have to fight not only for their life, but also for their health care coverage. that's unacceptable, and every single presidential candidate on the republican side would take us back to that dark place. we are not going to go back, are we? the republicans a last few weeks
have not had such a fun time, have they? it's been really interesting among the 18 republican candidates for president. if republicans think that things have gone well, they need only to take a look at jeb bush. jeb bush actually said a few days ago that we are spending too much on women's health care. how many women in this crowd think we are spending too much and we should spend less making sure that women can stay healthy? any hands in the air? i know that the women i know, not only in my district at all across america want to make sure that they can stay healthy because it's not just a women's issue to make sure that women can remain healthy. it's a family issue and an economic issue. the reason it is an economic issue is that 40% of women, 40% of households with children are
headed by a woman, and a woman who is working. if women are not able to remain healthy, if they are not able to get that basic access to health care, if they are not able to make their own reproductive choices and plan their families, that affects their ability to support their families in a very significant way. so let's take a look at where the republicans are on women's access to health care. jeb bush supports repealing the affordable care act. he supports making sure the women can't get access. marco rubio has the same opinion as todd akin. spirit he supports a ban on abortion in all cases. even in the case of rape or incest. rape or incest. that is not where america is. where america is is that women should have access to health care. [cheers]
i want to close on retirement security. there is a very clear contrast between where republicans and democrats are on a secure retirement. we just celebrated 50 years of medicare and 50 years of medicaid and 80 years of social security. those programs ensure that if you work hard throughout your life, if you play by the rules, when you retire you will not have to worry about falling to the floor. you are going to have a floor that will support you, that ensure that you can feed your family, that is going to ensure that you can keep the roof over your head, that you will not have to choose between medicine and meals. democrats passed social security and medicare, support strengthening social security and medicare, and have strengthened them. republicans like jeb bush believe that we should privatize social security.
jeb bush supported his brother's plan to privatize social security. remember how well that debate went. that went down in a ball of flames because americans support social security. americans support medicare. but jeb bush said the other day that we should phase out medicare. does anyone here think that medicare should be phased out? >> no! rep. wasserman schultz: should we be entitled to making sure we have a strong health care? we need to make sure that we have a candidate for president who focuses on making sure that we have all the cornerstones in place of a middle-class life. it is our democratic candidates for president who will ensure that. and finally -- really finally -- let's take a look at the first republican debate. at the first republican debate which was held on the 50th anniversary of the voting rights act, i thought it was appalling.
there were a lot of things appalling, including the misogynistic comments of donald trump and the fact that none of the republican candidates on that stage called him out on any of those misogynistic comments, but i could not believe that not a single candidate on the 50th anniversary of the voting rights act actually suggested that we may want to expand access to voting rights. there was no mention on that stage of support for increasing people's access to the polls. why? once republicans began taking over this state legislatures and governor's mansions, what did they do? they started restricting access to the polls, passing voter suppression laws all across this country and denying people their right to vote. we have to make sure that elections are able to be conducted so that voters have a chance to maximize their access to the polls. and that is what democrats stand for.
we will continue to fight for every vote. [applause] and lastly, let's -- i really want to close on a high note. i am so proud of the democratic party and our support for making sure that we are more equal in america. today with barack obama as president, with the support of democrats, we live in a more equal america. the supreme court has finally made sure that love is love, and the law of the land. marriage equality is something that everyone in america can enjoy no matter where they live. and let me just say, we are going to continue to push for the kind of equality every american deserves. i'm so proud of the black lives matter movement, because it changes in policy that we need to ensure that no matter what your skin color is, your background, that everyone has
the ability to be treated fairly and equally and not live in fear. policy needs to change. i'm proud of the young people who have been pushing that black lives matter movement. we brought the confederate flag down. we made sure that symbols of hate, symbols of hate are unacceptable in america. but now we need to move forward even more. what we don't need is immigration policy like that has been spewed by the hateful comments of republican candidates for president. donald trump -- it's appalling and unacceptable that he would refer to mexicans as rapists and killers, instead of people who want to come here to make a better life for themselves and their families. i can't even use the vulgar term that he has used and jeb bush has doubled down on and many of the republican candidates have
called children of immigrants who are not the vulgar word they have used, but our citizens. citizens. this week there has been a debate on the republican side over whether to deny or take away citizenship from babies born in this country under the 14th amendment who all have legal, constitutional citizenship. that is what the democratic party stands for, equality, equality of opportunity, making sure we can support the cornerstones of a middle-class life. that is what you will get from a democratic president and i will work every single day along with so many of you to make sure the democratic nominee for president is elected the 45th president of the united states, and we will do it on the shoulders of iowa voters like we have for many election cycles. [applause]
mr. christie: all right. good morning. no speech for me this morning. i want all 20 minutes to be your questions. let's get to your questions. the lady in the cubs hat. >> my question is how would you secure the border? mr. christie: question is how would i secure the border when i become president. or things we need to do -- first in urban areas around the border, we need to build a wall or dense because they are heavily populated, and that is the best way to do it. second, we need to put fbi agents, dea agents in with border patrol agents to interdict the drugs and guns
coming across our border. third, we need to use electronic surveillance. we are using drones all over the world. we should use them on the southern border with cameras and other surveillance to make sure we put our human resources, border patrol officers, and others in the right places. they are difficult to patrol on foot. fourth and most importantly is every employer in america has to use e-verify. the reason these folks are coming across the border is to work, and if they know you cannot be employed in this country if you are not here legally, they will not come because they are only coming for a job. here is what we need to do to employers because they are part of the problem, too -- they need to be fined double whatever their profit is from hiring cheaper, illegal labor. if we do those things, that will secure the border, and then we can move forward and grow our economy. be careful, do not go for just one easy answer. this is a tough problem. we have not solved it for 30 years. let's use all 4 tools to do it effectively and efficiently. i enforced the law for seven years as u.s. attorney a newly six as governor. when i get to the white house, i will know how to enforce the law
at the southern border. yes, ma'am, back there in the purple shirt. >> [inaudible] gov. christie: she said alzheimer's is the most expensive disease in america. this is part of the reason i put forward an entitlement reform program to save over $1.2 trillion. the national institutes of health, their budget only went up .1%. we're not spending money on what we need to spend to improve the quality of people's lives. we need to partner with the private sector and the government to save it. we can find a treatment and a cure for alzheimer's, extend people's lives to make the quality of life that are, but that will only happen if the
government invest, but also, we need to protect the pharmaceutical companies in this country as well. they are spending a lot of their private money to try to come up with cures and treatments as well, and then we let people steal their intellectual property. we cannot let that happen. i will protect our pharmaceutical companies and a hard work that they are doing and then increase the budget for the national institutes of health and the national science foundation so we can get these great doctors and scientists in the united states to have all service be the next place where we bring an effective treatment and cure. we need that for our loved ones and we need that to make our country a better, more productive place. >> [indiscernible] gov. christie: first off, new jersey has already sent an our objection to the clean power plan the president has put forward. the president regulates things in a way that makes no sense, kills jobs in america and kills technology and advancement of america. what we need to do -- this is what we do in new jersey. i think each state should be able to do the thing that works best for them. i drive throughout iowa and see
wind power all over the state. it makes sense in a big wide-open state to be able to have wind power be part of what we do, to have a cleaner footprint in terms of our energy and lower-cost electricity as well. in new jersey, though, we are the most densely populated state in america. 8.9 million people in that little space. if we put wind mills up, it would be a riot. here's what we're going to do -- go sit up on a bar and say to someone to name the top three states in america in solar energy production. they will get the first two because the first two are california and arizona, but you're going to win on number three because number three is the garden state of new jersey. solar power works in our state. you don't need as much space for it. we use natural gas, and we are
the third largest solar producer in america. you know what that means? we have reached our 2020 clean air goals already without this intervention run the obama epa that is killing jobs and killing opportunity in our country. as president, i will take the same approach. if it's best for iowans, it's good for the rest of the country as well. let new jersey do what they do and all the other states do what they do as well. in the back, the lady with the blue hat. >> [inaudible] gov. christie: if i'm president of the united states, i don't think anybody who knowingly came here illegally should become a citizen. i just don't think they should become a citizen. i think american citizenship -- i think american citizenship is an enormous gift, and if you came here by breaking the law, i
don't believe you should citizenship. we'll have to figure out what we do. americans do not want us adding to the number. but by the same token, we do not want people to be rewarded for knowing illegal conduct. it does not make sense. you're just encouraging that conduct even more. that's what i would do as president, and we would work to make sure that the folks that are here are treated fairly. >> [indiscernible] gov. christie: the question is on national service, americorps in particular. they were an enormous help during hurricane sandy. volunteers from all over america helped us to recover. we are certainly grateful for it. i want to expand national service even more, as part of the way to deal with the student debt crisis we have in this country.
students are graduating with six figures of student debt to go to college, and they have a mortgage. they cannot buy a home or get married or have children. one of the options i want to give to students is to server national service to our country to help pay off their student loans. they can help make their communities, states, countries a better place. everybody wins and it helps to lower debt. that's what i would do as president. yes, sir, superman. >> [indiscernible] gov. christie: the question was fuel standards, and i've been clear on this. it goes in coordination with this lady's question -- we need more options, not less. we need options to make energy more affordable. on renewable fuel standards, we should enforce the laws on the books now. the law is there. it's the obama administration that refuses to enforce the law.
the law should be enforced here. what i say to other candidates -- make up your mind. do not say one thing and something different in new hampshire and different in south carolina. you have a position, tell the people of the country what your position is. when i'm president, we will enforce the law that is on the books and all the laws that are on the books. [applause] >> [inaudible] gov. christie: question is what is the plan to curb the influence of big money. we tried every different law and every different way, the problem's lawyers write these laws, and then we hire lawyers to figure out how to get around the laws they just wrote. what i would do is let anybody donate any amount of money they want to donate to any candidate, but they have to reveal that. so that you know who is giving me money and who is giving every
other candidate money. there's a lot of money being given with no transparency at all. you do not know who is giving us the money. what you're really getting at is how we are influenced by the money. it's do we change our policies? if you see someone gives me a lot of money and 24 hours later i reveal it two weeks later, i change a position i had before to be in line with the person who gave me money, you can make the conclusion you want to make. we will always end up having money involved in politics. 330 million people in this country, we got to communicate to them effectively to try to get elected, so let's take all the curtains away from it and make me responsible, too. if i get the money, i have to spend the money. you should be able to hold us responsible, and that's the way i would fix it. >> [indiscernible]
gov. christie: we have a system of laws in this country, and those laws need to be followed. religious organizations should be protected. other businesses who want to do business should have to do business. my oath of office is to enforce the laws of the state of new jersey, not the ones i like or agree with, but all the laws. religious organizations absolutely should be protected. everyone should be able to freely practice the religion the way they see fit, but businesses should not be allowed to discriminate, no.
>> [indiscernible] gov. christie: i could only hear part of what you said. i think it was about scientific research and marijuana. i have a clear position on marijuana in general -- it's illegal in the united states of america except in specific instances where it's used for medical purposes. the president is allowing certain states to go ahead and use it recreationally. in my opinion that's wrong. if folks want to make marijuana legal, go to congress and change the law, but we should not have ad hoc one state at a time changing laws.
i will tell you, it creates lawlessness in this country. that's how we get sanctuary cities, also. because certain mayors do not want to enforce immigration laws. we should enforce the laws that are on the books. if you want to change those laws, go to congress and change them. when i'm president, we will enforce the laws that are on the books and enforce them aggressively. [applause] >> [indiscernible] gov. christie: that's a really interesting thought. >> [indiscernible] gov. christie: you're minor league compared to what i deal with. good day. yes, sir, in the back.
i could not hit the rest of it. move up a little. >> [indiscernible] mr. christie: he asked about russia and china slowly getting more influence in the world and what i would do to change it. this president has been the weakest president on or in policy that we have had in my lifetime. he makes jimmy carter look strong. and the fact is here is what i do -- first thing is we need to make sure we do more military exercises in eastern europe. we need to put missile defense back in poland to make sure the russians understand they have taken crimea, they are in ukraine now -- no further. no further for russia than what they have done already, and mr. putin needs to understand there will be a president who will not put up with his adventurism around the world. and china, they are building
these artificial islands in the south china sea to try to make sure they restrict shipping lanes. those are free, open international waters. we need to rebuild our military. this president has weakened our military in a way that has made america less influential in the world, so we need to rebuild our army to 500,000 active duty soldiers. we need to make sure we have the 350 ships in the navy and 2600 aircraft. i would rebuild our military, send a clear signal to russia and china that we don't want a war, but we are not going to allow them to tread on the united states of america. >> [indiscernible]
mr. christie: he asked about the economy, the drop in the stock market this week. the devaluation of the chinese currency. to strengthen our economy, we don't need to worry about china. we need to worry about what is happening in the united states of america. our taxes are too high. the taxes are rigged for the rich. we need to get rid of all these entitlements -- not entitlements, rather, loopholes, and these exceptions, and we need to just keep 2 -- home mortgage deduction and the charitable contribution deduction, and lower our rates 28% of the high-end and 8% in the low-end. let people keep their money, lower corporate tax rates as well so we can start creating jobs again, and there are $2 trillion offshore. they will not come back because
barack obama wants to tax them to death. i give them a one-time chance to come and bring that money back in as long as they will invest in american jobs, get jobs growing until our kids get out of school and can be employed and work hard. >> i live at home with a dog. i regard him as a member of my own family. he jumps in my lap any time i sit down. he likes to play tag. i share food with him. he always wants to have some of my food. not unlike many americans, i regard this dog as a member of my family, and yet, other animals -- if dog had happened to be born a pig, you would want to torture and kill this animal. mr. christie: this is a question about hog crates -- [indiscernible]
mr. christie: let me be really clear about that. when something like that happens and i'm here in iowa, man, i feel right at home. feels like i'm back in jersey for a couple of minutes. thank you, iowa, for doing that. second, let me be really clear. i believe that farmers should be able to make the decision about how best to raise their livestock, not government bureaucrats. i veto that bill twice in new jersey. i thank them for the opportunity. the iran deal is the single worst thing the president has done in seven years as president, and that is a high bar. we cannot permit israel to be threatened by nuclear weapons. we cannot permit the united states to be threatened by iranian nuclear weapons.
if i were president of the united states, i would have walked away from that table and told the iranians when they were serious, and come back to talk to me, and when i am president, the iranians will know there is a new sheriff in the oval office. i mean what i say and what i mean, and the ayatollah would know that, too. [applause] >> [indiscernible] mr. christie: the gentleman from aarp shockingly wants to know about social security. let's remember something -- a study was just done this had in seven to eight years, social security will be broke. we cannot allow that to happen. social security is there to make sure that our elderly who pay into the system played by the rules, work hard, do not grow old in poverty, do not have to choose a between heat and rent and food. we are all living longer. we are all living longer. women lived to 83 years old in america on average. men live to 79. i see this lady smiling. we're catching up.
we need to raise the retirement age two years, but we can save it in over 25 years. that's one month a year. it will help our kids and grandkids have social security be there for them. the wealthiest americans do not need to get a social security check. the alternative is to raise taxes on everyone. why would we want to give more money to the government for social security with a already lied to us and stole from the trust fund? fix the benefits and make those security secure. >> [indiscernible] we need a larger military. [indiscernible] mr. christie: national debt is out of control. that's why i've said that $1.2 trillion can be saved by making those reforms to entitlements. in new jersey as governor, i cut over 800 programs out of the budget and vetoed more spending -- line-item vetoed more spending than any governor in
new jersey history. i will take the same approach as president. we will control spending on entitlements, control spending in other areas and invest more in research to make us the economic power of the world and military power of the world. the way we should be for the next iteration of come. they are telling me my time is up. i'm going to be all around. ask me questions all day today. i love the iowa state fair. i love all of you. appreciate it. [applause] mr. jindal: thank you very, very much, and thank you for having me. what i think this election is all about is saving the american dream and the idea of america. every time president obama speaks, it's all about redistribution, government spending, government dependence.
i don't know about you, but that is not the american dream that our parents taught us. i want to briefly tell you my parents' story and tell you what we've got to do to fight and save the american dream. my parents -- they have lived the american dream. my dad is one of nine children. first and the only one in the family to get past the fifth grade. grew up in a house without electricity and running water. i know because we heard those stories every single day growing up. here is the amazing thing -- almost 45 years ago, the first time my parents got on a plane they came halfway across the world to baton rouge, louisiana. they had never visited. they didn't anybody who had been here and have gone back and could tell you what it is like. they left their families, their friends, my mom was pregnant with me. you couldn't google back then.
they were coming to an idea as much as they were coming to a place. they were coming to the idea of freedom and opportunity. they were coming to the american dream. my mom went to school at lsu. my dad -- that's right. my dad didn't compute to be dependent on the government, he came here to get a job. got his first job calling through the yellow pages. i was born with a pre-existing condition. there is no obamacare, no local contracts. my dad went to the doctor, shook his hand, and promised to send him a check every month until he
paid that bill in full. and that is exactly what he did. that's what we used to do in this country. i asked my dad how does it work to pay for a baby on layaway. do they take the baby back? he said we would have sent you back. the reason i tell you that story, my parents came here to change the american dream. they lived the american dream. i want my children and grandchildren to live that same dream. when my parents came to this country they came to this country legally. folks in emigration policy can either make a country stronger or weaker. a dumb immigration policy makes a country weaker and that is
what we have today. we need to stop talking about it. we don't need that we -- we don't need it in 1000 page bill, we need to secure the border once and for all. we could get it done in six months if we were serious. you have big interest in d.c. who doesn't want the border secure. they try to silence free speech. we are going to stand up to the big is this interest. -- the big business interests. buy asn many t-shirts as they want. we are going to secure our border. we are a nation of laws. [applause] the republican party is not the party of big government, we should not become the party of big business either.
it is time to put an end to sanctuary sittings. it is find it -- it is fine if congress wants to defund it. let's do more to let's hold those mayors and city council criminally responsible as accessories by the crimes committed by people who shouldn't be here in the first place, let's lock them up. the left, they do not want us to be a melting pot. they think it is politically incorrect to say if you want to heat -- want to come here you should be an american. come legally. learn english. [applause] our jobs, our values, roll up your sleeves and get to work.
i am tired of the hyphenated americans. we are not african-americans, we are not asian americans, we are not rich americans, we are not poor americans. we are all americans. it is time to stand up. the divider in chief wants us to continue. the left says it is politically incorrect. i think it is foolish. if you want to come to this country, you should want to be an american. nobody's forcing you to come here in the first place. let's be clear, immigration without a simulation, that is not immigration. immigration without assimilation is invasion and we will not let that happen in america.
do you want to see the contrast, second and third generation immigrants don't consider themselves part of those countries. we should give anyone freedom to come here and use those freedoms to undermine the freedoms for other people. it's time to say if you want to come here, be an american. get to work. the big business interests, they can send them on as many junkets they want, they can buy as many t-shirts they want, it is time to stand up to big businesses and with -- and say we are taking our country back. we should be willing to lose the primary in order to win the
general election. i disagree with that. that is the establishment telling us to hide our beliefs. i'm here to tell you that never works. if we do that again we will lose again and we will lose -- and we will deserve to lose again. it is time for us to embrace our own principles. when did this conservative society give up fighting for our beliefs? when did we decide to quit on the american dream? conservativism is not dead in america, it is simply dead in washington dc. it is time for us to stand up from the permanent political insiders. they took the majority last year, what changed?
nothing. they told us they would repeal obama care. nothing has changed. the leaders in d.c. were happy the supreme court ruled against us on obama care. they are afraid of winning. only d.c. is losing a good thing. they are scared to fight for freedom. they are scared to find against a new government. they are afraid to fight against universal coverage. they are afraid to fight for less government dependence. it is time to stand up and take our party back. it is time for us to put an end to this nonsense of lifetime permanent politicians. think how different our country would be if they have to live under the same rule applied by the rest of us.
it is time to get term-limited legislators and let's pay them for every day they are in d.c. rather than out of d.c. we need to shrink our government. i want to say something that is politically incorrect, the idea of america is slipping away. the idea of america is slipping away right in front of us. what i mean by that is many americans are tempted to take america for granted. my parents would never take america for granted. every day they gave thanks, they were blessed to be born in the greatest country in the world. hillary clinton, barack obama, they are trying to turn the american dream into a european nightmare. give bernie sanders credit, at least he is honest enough to call himself a socialist. these other two aren't any better, they just won't admit it. the idea of america is slipping away from us.
$18 trillion of debt. planned parenthood using our taxpayer dollars to tear apart babies and sell their organs, an entitlement program will he who has made a truce on iran, the greatest sponsor of terrorism in the world. wordsnot even say the "radical islamic terrorist." a president who will not stand with israel. a president who time and time again had the epa regulating our water. we have a more expense of and more expensive and more intrusive federal government than ever before. the idea of america is slipping away. it is time to stand up and take it back. i'm not going to let the idea of america slip away as long as i have breath. i will do everything i can to
get the idea of america back. the idea of america has generated more wealth than any civilization in the world. it has done more for freedom than any other civilization in the world. it has done more to fight for the defenseless than any situate -- civilization in the history of the world. shame on those fools in d.c. who are giving it away. there are a lot of great speakers running for president. you have a lot of folks -- i'm not the best looking candidate. my daddy wasn't president. i don't have a reality tv show. i have the backbone, i have the bandwidth, i have the experience to get this job done. i will be ready on the first day. the next commander will be across the table.
he better not need a teleprompter, talking points, or great staff. we need a president who can do this job on the first day. i'm asking you to fight with me with god's grace. we can rescue the idea before america slips away. i'm asking you to believe again today and join up again today. those folks sent out here by these big interests, if you want freedom follow the laws. do what my parents did. we are the greatest country in the history of the world. we have a president who doesn't follow the law, the supreme court who doesn't follow the constitution.
hillary thinks the laws don't apply to her. if you want freedom, if you love america, follow the law, learn english. get to work. god bless you all and thank you all very much. [applause] we have time for questions, yes sir? >> [indiscernible] bobby jindal: we have to have solar, we have to have ethanol, we have to have wind, oil, gas, clean coal, nuclear, we have to get it all, and get the epa out of the way. they want energy to be scarce and expensive. it is like the rooster taking credit for the sun coming up.
production is going down on federal lands in production is up on private lands and waters. we need affordable energy. we can start by getting the epa out of the way. good jobs are jobs that pay well. where you create more jobs, we have the highest tax rate in the world. secondly you have to shrink the government. either grow the government economy or the american economy, they are mutually exclusive. every governor talks about cutting government, i'm the only one who has done it. i cut my budget 26%, we have 30,000 fewer state bureaucrats since my dad took office. i have an energy independence plan. not only do you bring exploration jobs but you bring manufacturing jobs back as well. we also need to repeal obama care, all the uncertainty and
regulations. finally we have to rollback the regulatory state. congress needs to do its job. it needs to vote on these regulations. we can dominate this century, but we have to get government out of the way for you want good paying jobs. yes sir? a great question about the rising influence and -- influence of china and russia, we have to stop hollowing out our military. our president thinks weakness is the key to peace. weakness is provocative to evil. it never works. you have putin in eastern ukraine. in asia you have isis across
the middle east. reagan understood peace through strength actually works. i never want our military in a fair fight, i want our military to dominate any fight we send them into. and it is unfair to send them into a fight without the resources they need. >> how do we spread the risk -- the republican message to our youth? bobby jindal: two things i would ask any voter , are you really better off than one president obama got elected? your premiums did not go down $2500. all these things he said, he said the world would be safer. he says he cannot beat isis in a generation. the first question to ask is are you better off. you or the government? you are not smart enough to buy your own insurance. they think you're not smart enough to have first amendment religious liberty rights.
they don't think you're smart enough to have second amendment gun rights, they don't think you are smart enough to decide how your kids should be educated, they don't think you're smart enough to know how many big gulps you should be drinking. i suspect michelle obama would have a heart attack based on all the food we are about to eat at this state fair. i would ask who you trust to live your lives? i will defend my children from popcorn, orioles, and deep-fried candy bars if he does his job and defends us from radical islamic terrorists. i think i heard the question. i'm not for discrimination against anybody. i don't think the government should be intruding on the matters. an all-out assault against christian business owners.
i think there are christian musicians and caterers that are being forced to true -- forced to choose between following their conscience and operating the business. the real discrimination is against individuals who want to can 10 you with marriage being between a man and a woman. i don't think court can redefine the definition of marriage. i found an executive order in louisiana saying we won't discriminate against this this -- business owners and individuals who have a traditional view of marriage. now the aclu is suing us. i think that is hypocritical. they were for religious freedom before they were against it. we are all created equal in god. i think the discrimination is against christian business owners and individuals who want to follow their conscience.
i was in iowa. they came out with a decision on marriage the same out -- the same week they came up with the decision on obama care, i was asked what we should do about the court. i said if the court can't be bothered to read the constitution, according to scalia it has no meaning, they are going to become a public opinion poll instead of following the constitution, maybe we can save a couple of bucks and get rid of the court altogether. i'm willing to get rid of two thirds of the court and keep three of them. there are three that actually follow the constitution. this is the last question.
she says a lot of people she worked with says every politician is a liar. she asked me am i good one? let me say this, i think there's a reason the folks you talk about say every politician is a liar. we are tired of politicians who say one thing and do another. just want to would like them to fight for what they believe in. they rolled over on amnesty, they rolled over on obamacare in dc. they better take a stand against funding planned parenthood. how they cannot go for these barbaric activities -- i think there is rightful skepticism. say.what i not everyone here like it. i said i'm going to support the rule of law. i said i was going to cut my
state government without raising taxes. clearly we have done it. i support traditional marriage. we have a woman who disagrees with that. i will tell you what i believe, i will do what i say. and i'm willing to give everything i got to fight to protect the idea of america. if you are looking for somebody to manage the slow decline of this country, go for somebody else. if you want somebody who is going to fight to save the idea of america, to rescue the american dream from becoming the european nightmare and take us off the path of socialism, believe again. we are building a movement. we are going to win in the national election, we are going to take our country back and we are going to secure our border and enforce our laws. thank you all very much.
>> next, a discussion on white house efforts to decrease the use of heroin. and look at future of technology innovation. after that, features from debbie wasserman schultz and chris christie and louisiana governor bobby gentle at the iowa state fair. -- bobby jindal at the iowa state fair. this sunday night on q&a, 20-year-old college student has been visiting the graves of u.s. presidents and vice president since he was nine years old and documenting his adventures on his website. he talks about those visits and his interest in american history. >> the one gravesite people get difficulty traveling to is the rockefellers. how did you do it? >> we were able to get to it
through what my father describes as an act of god. my father walked farther down the perimeter in the cemetery and saw this gigantic tree had fallen and crushed a fence. he saw nelson rockefeller's grave and decided he would have to get me they are fairly quickly after that. q&a.rt on c-span's >> now a discussion on white house efforts to address the rise of heroin use in the u.s.. journal,y's washington this is about 45 minutes. continues. host: joining us from new york policy director for harm reduction sir. guest: good morning. host: could you tell us about your coalition and what you are involved in? a national e organization that focuses on the intersection of drug use and health. about the erned
overdose epidemic. we have been doing work and helping in advocacy in develop model programs and work round addiction, syringe access, hen tights related -- .epatitis issues growing host: paint a picture about what is going on in the united states hen it comes to heroin specifically and overdosing and addiction problems. last 15 years we have seen a rise in overdose deaths initially driven by painkillers. painkillers that were widely misused and in recent an enormous seen shift to heroin use. relatively low or table but started to rise. in the -- we saw it a lot in the northeast but we west eing it from the coast to the appalachian region and with this rise had heroin rise in dramatic
overdose deaths and hepatitis c people seeking a lot of ment so communities are suggesting to et a handle on this especially in rural and suburban areas. host: most of the issues taking northeast like vermont, midwest is what we have a little n that shows bit of where the information is. what is causing it specifically of appen in these sections the country? guest: i think there are a few different patterns that are intersecting. one is that in some places like parts of the appalachian region parts of the northeast where the prescription painkiller took hold there's been a gradual substitution or heroin.on of so we see the shift where people ho had become dependent on prescription painkillers, whether in west virginia, northern ohio,
kentucky, or up in massachusetts to maine, are migrating heroin because it is cheaper if you have developed a habit. we are nd thing is seeing incursion of drug routes into areas of the country that had not been ignificant targets for the marketing of heroin. we have associated heroin and with drugs like cocaine urban centers. we are seeing a difficult fusion into suburban areas and parts of he midwest and don't have a handle on it because they have never had strong capacity for aking sure people have access to drug treatment and other preventive measures. white house at the announced recently that they are .5 million on d $2 a heroin strategy aimed at areas of the northeast. what that is s about? guest: sure. white house is doing is
looking at what available fund congress has g them for various of the drug strategy. one of the programs is been 25 years high intensity drug trafficking areas and there are over two dozen designated regions including the tphaoefrpt and have been funded that receiver money from the white house through the office of drug control policy to coordinate interagency local, state, federal efforts to ntercept and dismount drug trafficking organizations. what the white house announced his week is that they are rethinking how to best use the money. hat they want to see is these efforts to coordinate and share nformation include a public health response so they are bringing public health into the room with law enforcement need to and saying we team up and make sure that we are addressing all aspects of
the problem. i think it is part of a broader hift we are seeing both at the local and level of federal administration is saying we are rest our way out of this and solve it by cracking own and throwing everybody in jail. we have to take a public health we to this and say how can stop people from dying of overdoses an help people get in treatment. so, while the amount of money seems relatively small, $2.5 million, it is part of a broader shift from the white house in bringing a public health lens to what is traditionally seen as a law justiceent and criminal problem. host: we will go more about the white house program but if you ask our guests about the hrpb problem in the united states but the white house effort. 202-48-8000 for east an central. 202-74 202-748-8000 for pacific and you have had a
experience with heroin you want in your perspective 202-748-8002 and make your thoughts known on our social media pages. about treatment. what goes on in treatment and hat works and for those being treated how much go back to using? talk about drug treatment people have a lot of different ideas and assumptions. from a 12-step program to a rehab facility. but what we know about people who are dependent on heroin, and this also applies to prescription painkillers like oxycontin, is that the most successful treatment involves the use of medication like methadone. there is increasing interest in a newer medication called vivid trawl. the people need some kind of support from medication because
it is really effective at managing cravings and preventing relapse. protective against overdose and a lot of other things. so there's a big push right now to say, "let's make sure that we've got insurance companies that are covering these treatments, that we've got enough treatment sillies providing it and enough doctors prescribing it, and let's see that people know what the best options are." for a long time, the field of drug treatment has been a bit of a sort of anything goes. from theen siloed off regular health care system and "well,by ideology or, this worked for me, saw them going to become a drug counselor ratherl you have to do," than hard evidence. if you have a heroin problem and you're are looking for treatment, you should look for a
treatment provider or doctor who can help you get on medication. it might be for the short term for a year or two or a little longer, but medication will give people the best chance of recovering from their substance use disorder and preventing relapse. if you get a sense of how it works practically on the state and local level, will it be there will be professionals and localities where people can turn and get the help and the medication and the treatment? understanding is that this initiative is not specifically designed to provide treatment but designed to bring in the law enforcement and public health side together. i think of a few examples that might be scaled up under this initiative. a few months ago, gloucester, massachusetts, had a significant heroin problems. they were seeing overdoses. the police chief said they were going to take a completely different approach. they've been trying to say let's get it under control, investigate, lock people up. instead, they're telling people
that if they have a heroin problem, come into the police department, ask for help, and they will connect them with treatment. dozens of people so far have done this. dozens of people so far have then placed in drug treatment programs. i see the kind of thing being trained and shared and disseminated through this information. it's not going to pay for people to get into treatment, but it's going to save what is working, what our innovative communities doing, and how can we replicate that another parts of the country that are really struggling with these issues? ,ost: our guest, daniel raymond joining us from the harm reduction coalition. arlington, virginia, you are up first. this is richard. go ahead. in law enforcement, and i've seen this happening gradually for quite a long time. the northeast is just inundated with heroin. as a law enforcement strategy, i
believe, and i think our chief agrees with us and will probably make an announcement, and i cannot do that now, that we will not be permitted by special .rder to arrest a heroin user we will only be permitted to arrest the dealer he bought from . that is our focus now. it's going to focus law enforcement activities into picking up dealers. one of the things we tried to do is to get referrals on the street. in other words, do not have the person coming to the police department. i think asking a heroin addict to come into the police department to get help is probably not going to be received well by many because they are engaged in other activities and have outstanding warrants and things of that nature. i think the officer on the street should begin a card that they can give to users and say, "here's your resources, own numbers, places you can go."
and then focus on the street on picking up the dealers. i don't think there should be any leeway given to dealers at all. ok, richard, thanks for your perspective. go ahead. comment appreciate the and foresight you and your chief are taking on this. it's reminiscent of a program that has been getting a lot of attention around the country recently called law enforcement assistant version. it started in seattle where basically, they had these issues where there was a community where local law enforcement officers, the beat cops, were seeing the same people over and problems, for drug for public order problems, and it became this cycle where we are bringing them in, booking them, and we know they will be back out on the street, and we are not solving the underlying issue. i asked what we can do differently, and they partnered
toh social service agencies say exactly what you are proposing -- connecting them with a case manager who will ask what is really going on here that they keep getting into these problems. let's work with you and stabilize you. this becomes an alternative because right now, a lot of law enforcement officers are saying the only tool they have is to arrest people and they know that's not the help people need and it's not making the problem any better. thank you for your comment, and i think we will see a lot more police departments around the country taking similar approaches. a line fort aside those with experiences. tom in malibu, california, go ahead. caller: a former brother-in-law of mine at 20 years old got involved with heroin. i checked with some friends on probation and they said there was about a 2% recovery rate. is the police are
just not really productive. these people rob, steel from the family. they need money and they commit crimes. he's the nicest kid in the world, and he's now doing life in prison and a member of the aryan brotherhood. it has to be more than that, more than just focusing on the dealer. the dealer should be taken out and shot, but that's another story. they need to really be isolated and taken off the system altogether and kept in some type where they really go in long-term removal from the drug, from the system, and everything.
giving a card to a heroin dealer is absolutely the silliest thing i ever heard. i would love to hear your response. i'm sorry to hear about your brother-in-law. we have a lot of families struggling smaller issues, and it's a pain issue, and it can often you like it is pitting the family against the person who is struggling with addiction. i say that that 2% success rate of treatment -- that is not a current statistic. we have much better success rates with medication-assisted treat it. the challenge is to get the people and intervene early before they progress in their addiction, before they lose their job, their families, their housing. i think that is the challenge we have as a society. the treatment does work. the recovery is possible, but people get isolated. they feel hopeless, and we are not providing enough support or them to make sure they get on that path toward recovery rather
than that passed towards a life sentence. i feel like we have much better treatment options now and we need to make them more widely available and more widely known, and part of that is tapping into the stigma of addiction and addressing families as the key anchors of support, but i do if the end of the story is somebody serving a life sentence, that is a failure and a missed opportunity. host: lubbock, texas, that's where bill is. good morning. good morning to you there. i have a question that goes back to your earlier segment. where is the heroin coming from? are we growing poppy fields in the united states of america? where's the heroin coming from? it goes back to your earlier segment -- who is bringing the heroin in here? available? why don't we target those countries that are bringing this crap into our country?
simple question. guest: most of the heroin does come from outside the country, and part of the federal response has been to try to work with those countries, try to target and prevent heroin and other illicit drugs from coming into the country, but i think that would be part of the equation, but when we look at the underpinnings of the current problem, it comes back to prescription painkillers, and that's not about drugs coming from outside the country. that's not about issues with border security. that's about this underlying demand for these painkillers that can provide a lot of relief for pain patients but also provide a high to people who are using the recreationally. i think rather than 'when the drugs originated, we've got to take a deep look in the mirror and ask where driving our .ociety to demand these drugs what is driving our society to want to use these drugs?
that? we prevent how can -- we've never ended a drug problem by shutting down the supply line. that has never been part of our success and our ongoing struggle . our successes come from good prevention. those are the parts we need to build up really fast, or were going to be losing more and more people to overdose. how does the body react to heroin? what does it do? it can have a euphoric effect. it can alleviate pain and anxiety. i hear a lot of stories from people who say they got into heroin, and it has this calm in soothing effect. they had a feeling up peace and wholeness, where before they felt empty. they had a really preferable -- pleasurable effect and maybe they had been dealing with underlying depression, anxiety, ptsd.
it does a lot of things that feel good, and it fills some holes in people. i think we see a lot of people with underlying mental health issues, with people with histories of trauma, and a lot of communities that have high unemployment rates, that jobs have moved out of that are really impoverished, that heroin sort of plugs some of those gaps and makes people feel good in a way that they do not in their day to day life. from fort lauderdale, florida, steve is next on the line with those with experience with heroin. good morning. thanks for taking my call. i was motivated to call this morning because quite a coincidence -- about 30 minutes ago, a friend of mine with 28 years of society was now looking to get back into a detox. just to illustrate the long and sometimes challenging road , it's justmetimes is
something i needed to mention. but also, the war on drugs to me a complete failure, and why we keep continually knocking our heads against the same wall just baffles me. we are give -- i know moving towards legalization, decriminalization and things like that, but that area needs to be explored further. prohibition is a perfect example of the downside of going that route. organized crime basically got its start in a major way in this during prohibition. i think we need to give some other legal remedies a chance. i want to end with this -- addiction has been around from
the beginning of time. people will always seek some relief from everyday life trials. i think your guests spoke about it pretty well. i'm glad your friend is reaching back out for help. that can be a hard thing. from thising administration is somewhat similar message that early in the obama presidency, the head of the office of national drug control policy at the time said, "we are retiring the term war on drugs because that is not working for us." not calling for legalization, but the new announcement from the white house is a sign of what they mean when they say we are pivoting away from the war on drugs approach and looking at this through a public health lens. we are seeing this across the country in terms of marijuana
legalization. what is the appropriate policy, and does it still makes sense to treat it as a criminal justice issue where we are locking up people who are using or possessing marijuana you put that's the debate in the cultural shift we are seeing play out, that locking people up who are using drugs -- we're not talking about high-level dealers but just the street level users -- is not going to solve our drug problem, so what are the ? ternative strategies rick identifies himself as a retired officer. a couple oft comments. first, i kind of disagree with both of your last two callers. i think it is still a law enforcement issue, but they needs to be more focus on public .ealth and public awareness one of the things that i noticed
was i was a sheriff's deputy down in south carolina, and i sixd back to west virginia years ago, and i was shocked at the level of heroin use and some of the smaller towns in west virginia. the lack of desire on the police department 2, 1, do anything about it, and the lack of public health options for people who are addicted to heroin -- the is -- i'mi can say almost 60 years old, so this is not -- the level of quality of not the levels
that we saw back in the late 1960's and 1970's. the heroin quality today is much higher, much more potent, and people do not really realize .hat you might have a person who had done heroin in the past and has relapsed, and they think they'll just go out and get a dime bag of heroin and shoot it up, and they aret realize that doing heroin that is 20, 30, 100 than what theynt used to do when they were addicted. it is still a two-prompt issue issue.pronged law enforcement needs to be more aware of this, but the health -- to beblic health needs
supported more. that's the one area where it has been lacking. host: thanks, rick. said a lot of great things. we spent a lot of time talking to people about some of the issues in west virginia. some of my coworkers just went on to huntington to do training last month. one of the underlying threads is there is not enough treatment capacity, but there is an emerging voice from law enforcement and public health saying that we have to work together on these issues. huntington in particular has been a leader in that, but we've seen that go all the way up to the level of state officials in west virginia. the other thing you mentioned is where people who are -- this is theof the issues with problems. people who are arrested and go release have an higher risk of overdose.
are we increasing their risk of overdose when they get out without providing any help in the meantime? a lot of the strategies around overdose prevention include providing people with training, providing people with medication-assisted treatment come of built on this recognition that by locking people up, we are potentially putting them at even higher risk of overdose when they get out if we do not provide other help in the interim. for danielext caller raymond of the harm reduction coalition is anne. thanks for waiting. go ahead. caller: our kids got involved with prescription drugs when they started college. fortunately, they came to us and told us that they had a problem, and we were able to get in the help they needed to start them
on their path to recovery. it, as yourdo guests well knows, but they did it. they are both very productive, ,appy, well-adjusted people now and i do agree with the fact that we have to have more resources for addicts who want to get well. there's not enough out there for or lower income people. it's just not fair. it's very expensive to get into a good program. cutfinally, if we don't back on access to heroin and thecription pills, i think prescription medication is being handled it little bit better now, but we all know where these
drugs are coming from. it's all controlled by the cartels. i believe we know where these places are. they have got to be eliminated. you can have all the treatment programs in the world, but until as much as the product as we can, this is going problem, andnual it's going to continue hard it many families and friends throughout our country. that's what i had to say. thank you. and thank youou, for sharing your story, and i'm glad your children are doing well. i want to mention there's a lot of other groups including parents and family groups across the country who are focused on these issues. are going to be coming together and washington, d.c., for a huge rally called unite to face addiction. where happy to be participating in this, and through that process, with hearing many
similar stories to your own. one of the most promising parts, it has led to a lot of families coming together to provide mutual support, to advocate for good policies like , and to become champions of strengthening our overall response to addiction, so the role of parents and emily is in the ongoing policy debates about how best to respond to this will be vital. -- the role of parents and families in the ongoing policy debates. and as a medication that has been used by emergency departments for over 40 years. if you have heroin or other opiates in your system, it blocks their affect, and if you are overdosing, it revives you and can restore breathing. it has been a generic drug but has not been widely prescribed, so a lot of community-based
programs, including my own organization, took steps to train people and provide people with it themselves. the first people we focused on were people who use drugs under the theory that if they are using drugs with other people, whenre there on the scene they overdose and can respond quickly. that has been enormously successful. we've seen thousands and thousands of lives saved, to the point where many law enforcement officials are saying the police department will train officers and how to respond and carry this as well. family support groups are saying the same thing. we're seeing interest from colleges and high schools and drug treatment programs, but we still have a lot of gaps in access. the cost has gotten more expensive, and there are still many parts of the country were prescribing it and pharmacies are not stocking it, so it's hard to find a way to get it. we have a lot more work to do, but we have so many promising success stories and a sense of