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before we break for lunch, want to get a glimpse into eight new orleans family, -- into a new orleans family that can trace its history back a couple hundred years. we want to get some sense of the extent that katrina was an inflection point in the life of this family. guysoing to introduce you in terms of birth order to keep things simple. i will start with wayne, who has owned and operated numerous restaurants in new orleans for some time. currently the owner of little
dizzies. to his right, the executive editor of the new york times. full disclosure -- my former boss. tonight immediate right is terry, the editor of the print edition of the new york times. as much as possible, we are going to hear them talking. wayne, i would love to start with you. story to start with the how your family got into the restaurant business in the first place. my understanding is that europe -- my understanding is that your parents took a big risk. they invested all the money in the first restaurant. what gives him the confidence to do that? wayne: for the love of the restaurant business. in first restaurant was
1947, called the chicken coop. during the day, he was a mail carrier, and at night, he ran a restaurant. it got to a point when he just wanted to have his own restaurant. he took a chance. he sold our house. placee did, he bought a called goodfellow's bar. that bar served food. we immediately, as a team and family, worked together to open up a restaurant, calling it eddie's after him. it was his dream. the first cooks were my grandmother, mother, and aunt. we didn't have any employees. just myself and them. then help for my brothers, but a lot of them were too young at that time to be of a great help. -- to be of great help.
[laughter] i didn't mean it like that. that's the way that story went down. we had cubicles in the back, four little cubicles in the back. and i mean little cubicles. so small. all four of them together was as big as of this stage. we lived there. everybody said, you couldn't open up a restaurant in the seventh ward. they were wrong. people were coming in with containers, i need some ribs, i need some greens, fried chicken. that is the way that story went down. >> what was it like growing up behind the shop? there were five of you and your parents, right? how did you divide up duties in the restaurant? what did each of you do? >> he does nothing. [laughter]
wayne: one was married at the time, so he had a cubicle. my mom and dad had a cubicle. my grandmother had a cubicle. all the rest of us had the other cubicle. that's how that worked. room.ubicle is a >> what did you guys do to contribute? wayne: we used to clean it up. sweep, mop. >> as time went on terry, became an intricate part of working in the kitchen. on friday and saturdays, you couldn't get into eddie's, and he was one of the people sweating in that kitchen. >> you gave a speech at a loyola this spring in which you described it was pretty intensely segregated in your upbringing. you said you only want to the french quarter with your dad to
buy cigarettes to restock the vending machine. what was that part of new orleans like? terry: it was quite segregated. i grew up in a train. -- i grew up in tremaine. when we lived in a backup -- eddie's thatf was an all-white neighborhood. my only exposure to people who were not black or the nuns and priests of grammar school and high school. i had no knowledge of the garden district until i was a teenager. in fact, my clearest recollection that i can go uptown until i was a teenager, for a debate turn it at loyola. -- debate tournament at loyola. it is hard to imagine now, but i suspect most black new orleanians would describe the
same. >> when did he claim until begin to integrate in the restaurant? -- when did the clientele of the restaurant begin to integrate? people remember richard collins, the restaurant critic. he did a rave review. it was collected in his book, which you can still find. beansch he took about 3 and raved about the gumbo and fried chicken. i think that change the clientele. -- changed the clientele. that was in the 1970's, i think. >> let's skip forward to katrina and talk about each of you. you each had different experiences with the storm. terry, maybe we can begin with you. you were here for the whole thing, right?
terry: i was. i was at the howard avenue office at the time. we watched it through the windows until a tree flew through the window. we realize we shouldn't be watching the storm, we should be hunkered down somewhere. i was with the folks at the newspaper covered the storm. we stayed throughout. >> where were your temporary headquarters? terry: afterwards, when we risingd the water was and the levees had been breached, we jumped into newspaper trucks in we went to baton rouge. it was a business complex in
.hat rouge on airline highway we left computers because we rushed out kind of fast. computers.ought new we set up shop in baton rouge. i think a few of us were at the manship school at lsu. and of course, there was a staff -- i don't remember how many who stayed to cover the storm. host: you said this was before the storm? terry: before the storm. they went to atlanta and stayed with wayne's daughter for a few days. host: do you want to pick up this story, wayne? wayne: my daughter moved out of new orleans two weeks before the storm. she bought a house and was
married to a servicemen. the storm was not supposed to hit new orleans, it was supposed to hit florida. we really weren't worried about it. me and my wife caught a plane to atlanta. we were in atlanta, and then the very next day, we are seeing on the news that this was a serious storm, category 5, coming directly at new orleans. that was when i called my son and other family members and said, you need to get out, and get out now. as i was talking about this earlier, our entire baquet family, not cousins or anything, but our entire direct link baquet family ended up in atlanta. about 17 of us stayed at my daughter's house. terry and his family, my kids and grandkids -- everybody was
there. in my brother -- and my brother and his wife, children and grandchildren. they came too. we didn't have enough room for them. they stayed a mile and a half away from where my daughter lived. they didn't come back, and didn't plan on coming back. host: how long did that period last when everyone was crowded together? terry: it wasn't very long. [laughter] just a couple months. host: how long was it before you came back? terry: i came back as early as i could. i needed to get back. i had an opportunity to open up a restaurant in atlanta. talking to my brother terry, he said, you're crazy man, thinking about that. i said, you're right, i need to get back to my roots. i have a restaurant and i need to get back there and get it opened up. host: and dean, you were in l.a. right?
dean: i was in a northern california. my son was a competitive car racer at a race. , ie all new orleanians didn't think the storm was going to be a big deal. i drove up the pacific coast highway so that he could race. before he went up to the race, after the storm had passed, i called the editor of the picayune, a close friend. i said, is this going to be bad? he said, it hit mississippi, but it looks like new orleans is going to be ok. so i went to the race with my son. i came back to the hotel, turned on the television set. at this point everyone had realized the levees had broken and that the city was flooded. car,panicked, popping the and went to los angeles. i never went back to new orleans for almost a year. i didn't go back until my mother
went back. first, i think it was painful. i could do what i always did, which was rely on being a journalist to take advantage of the distance. i ran the l.a. times coverage of katrina. at that time i was the editor of the paper. i used that as my excuse. i didn't want to admit to myself that i just want to see it. a year later, when my mother was in georgia, i visited her pretty regularly. my wife furnished the apartment for them. she went down a lot. but i wasn't ready to come back to new orleans until she was ready to come back. i came back when we moved from the house that the three of us had rented for her near the fairgrounds. host: what happened to her old place? wayne: it was near the london avenue canals, completely underwater, completely
destroyed. host: and you just let it go? wayne: yeah, there was nothing. it was unfixable. host: what did you guys lose with the house? importantly -- our mother was the keeper of the photographs. absolutely every photograph that we had -- there are no photographs of me. - 70 until i am much older. all of our childhood photographs are gone. >> that is one thing good about it. [laughter] dean: when we came down, my wife
and i came back to the house, which was filled with mold. my brother was very religious. we went into the house. the only image that had survived picture, one of those old 1950's christ pictures that was hung high. there was some mold and mildew, but it survived. wayne, how long did it take to get the restaurant reopened? wayne: well, nobody was here. i was blessed in the sense that i had a condo. my condo was destroyed by floodwater. i had a condo in the cotton mill. the tenant left. it was furnished. so i had a place to stay, which made it a lot easier. i got contractors and lived
there until i could get it going. it didn't take long. but it was an amazing experience. people from that range and other from baton people rouge and other parishes were coming in droves. people would sit too long and eat too much. you can get two sides, a gumbo and a salad. this?which restaurant was wayne: li'l dizzy. i want to point out we had a lot of people that came from other cities that came to help us rebuild. it was amazing. they would come every day in groups of 15-20. they would be rebuilding homes all over the city.
it was something great. you mentioned this earlier, but how much of the family did not come back? wayne: everybody is back except my daughter, who lived there and her family, her husband and two kids. and my brother's entire family is there. his wife, daughter, two sons, and maybe -- i have to count them, for-five grandchildren. they are all there. they found jobs, doing well. they like it in conyers. but they're not coming back. terry: we are 4 boys now, but we used to be five boys. are oldest brother, edward junior died in 1994. -- our oldest brother.
it's his family that still lives in atlanta. host: i want to open up to the audience in a second. quick questions. why didn't either of you go into the restaurant businesses? terry: too hard. [laughter] it would be too hard on my kids. they are not any restaurant business. my son tried it for a little while. by the way, i am proud of him. he is doing well, working for a major company. he tried it for a little while and said, daddy, this is too hard man, i don't have a life. he said when everyone else is celebrity easter, we are feeding them. when everyone is celebrating mother's day, we are feeding them. i said, give me the keys man. we had a couple restaurants and it was great that he got that out of his system. host: i read a quote from you, someday that the dean dropped a
bread pudding. -- that dean dropped a bread pudding. [laughter] wayne: my grandmother would make the pudding at my house? now? can i leave wayne: she was looking for bread pudding. so we called in dean, drove over with the bread pudding. there, hee got tripped, and the bread pudding went all over the floor. rom thisy form business. [laughter] how does being from here -- a question for the editor's, but also for the chef, being from new orleans -- how does it affect the way you think about
the world? how does it affect the way you think about the world? dean: i think the world is really messed up. i really do. every day i look at the things that are happening. i think new orleans is the greatest city in the world, greatest culture. we made a lot of mistakes. we have got to get a hold of this crime problem. to do that, we've got to put trades back in the school. we could have revealed our own city, you know. -- we could have rebuilt our own city, you know. we created important programs. college is not for everybody. new orleans is a wonderful blue city that is trapped around red states. [laughter] [applause] host: i will let you follow, wayne.
wayne: it has affected the way i think as a journalist. i think it makes me more responsive and thoughtful about cities. it makes me more open-minded as a journalist. i think new orleans is a place that invites open-mindedness because people are so different. me, when iencouraged think about the whole of the world, to just be open-minded. whether it is running coverage of katrina, or running coverage of the world. i think it makes me see if the world is accommodated place. terry: what dean said. but i live and work in the city. everything is about the city. i love new orleans just like everybody else. host: let's take a couple
questions, please. audience: the new york times has done external reporting about new orleans and louisiana over many years. just last weekend, sunday's edition with three major articles. the baton rouge advocate has created a new orleans addition. the best i can think of would be the new orleans addition of the new york times. [applause] hard to do.sort of but the new york times has a commitment to new orleans. we want to keep our new orleans. and make sure there is tremendous coverage in the paper, which we will continue to do.
audience: hi, i write and blog about on 20 worship in new orleans. -- about entrepreneurship in new orleans. i was formerly with cnn in atlanta and have been in the newsroom, hearing many of the conversations around katrina coverage. my question for you is, as a native of new orleans, how did that influence and guide you as a leader in the newsroom during the katrina coverage? how did that influence your guiding of other journalists in the stories they are telling, and were you able to separate yourself from the story? terry: at the time of katrina, i was editor of the l.a. times. it was tremendously useful. people were shocked on the scenes of the roush up -- scenes
of the rooftops and poverty in new orleans. my staff had to be reminded a were getting a glance of urban america. i think i was able to guide the newsroom to understand that they were getting a look at a larger urban problem in new orleans, that maybe the u.s. hadn't confronted in a long time. by the same token, i was able to make people understand that new orleans was the city of neighborhoods. i also think it was pretty clear early on in everybody's coverage, but i like to think in our coverage even earlier, that much of what happened in new orleans was a natural disaster, but that a big chunk of what happened was the failure of government over generations.
and last, but not least, it certainly gave me a passion for the coverage. it made me care deeply about the coverage, to make sure that we stayed there for a long time and didn't do what a lot of media does in big disaster stories, which is disappear at a certain point. it affected the way that a look at coverage tremendouslym and still does. --tremendously, and still does. host: i hate that we have to leave it there and let people get some thing to eat. the plan these to reconvene at 2:00 -- the plan is to reconvene at 2:00. there are books on the table outside. we have a little bookstore. doingnd judith will be respective booksignings. thank you three very very much. [applause] washington journal marks the 10th anniversary of hurricane katrina tomorrow with former new
orleans mayor mark morreale, the editor of the new orleans times picayune, and member of the army corps of engineers. and on saturday's program, archival footage of the hurricane and its aftermath from 10 years ago, plus your phone calls. washington journal, live each morning at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. this weekend on the c-span network, politics, books, and american history on c-span saturday at six clark p.m. eastern. hurricane katrina's 10th anniversary, with live coverage from new orleans of the public commemoration. speakers include bill clinton and mitch landrieu. sunday evening at 6:30 on the road to the white house coverage, speeches from democratic candidates hillary clinton and bernie sanders at the democratic national committee summer meeting at minneapolis. on c-span2, book tv on 10:00 a.m. eastern.
an author talks to the new york times immigration reporter about umented,""undoc tracing his journey in the u.s. from an undocumented immigrant to his time at princeton university. to mark the 10th anniversary of hurricane katrina, several programs about the storm and its aftermath, teaching -- featuring haley barbour. on c-span3, saturday afternoon, afew minutes past 2:00 p.m., former astronaut don thomas talks about the history of the space station, comparing the developing of russia and american programs the 1950's, and looking at the future of international space station efforts. sunday at 4:00 p.m. on reel america, a 1945 u.s. army signal film document in the course of world war ii in the pacific theater. schedule atte
c-span.org. today, president obama marked the 10th anniversary of hurricane katrina by visiting new orleans, where he spoke at a local community center. this is 45 minutes. ♪ pres. obama: everybody have a seat. hello everybody. where you at? [cheers] it's good to be back in the big easy. [applause] and this is the weather in august all the time, right? [laughter]
as soon as i land in new orleans, the first thing i do is get hungry. [laughter] when i was here with the family shrimpears ago, i had a gumbo at parkway bakery and tavern. i still remember it, that is how good it was. one day after i leave office, maybe i will finally hear a rebirth of the maple leaf on tuesday night. [cheers] i will get a chance to see the mardi gras. but right now i just go to meetings. [laughter] i want to thank michelle for the introduction, and more importantly for the great work she is doing, what she symbolizes, what she represents in terms of the city housing back -- the city bouncing back.
i want to acknowledge the great friend and someone who has worked tirelessly on behalf of the city. he is following a family legacy of service. your mayor, mitch landrieu. [applause] his beautiful wife. senator bill cassidy is here. where is senator cassidy? there he is. congressman cedric richmond. [applause] there he is over there. we have a lifelong champion of louisiana, and your former senator, mary landrieu in the house. [cheers] i want to acknowledge a great supporter to the efforts to recover and rebuild, congressman hakeem jeffries of new york. who has traveled down here with
us. to all the elected officials from louisiana and mississippi who are here today, thank you so much for your reception. i am here to talk about a specific recovery. but before i begin to talk just about new orleans, i want to talk about america's recovery. take a moment of presidential privilege to talk about what has been happening in our economy. this morning, we learned our economy grew at a stronger and more robust clip back in the spring than anybody knew at the time. the data always lags. we already knew that over the past five and a half years, our businesses had created 13 million new jobs. [applause] these new numbers that came out,