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not necessarily provocative. what is the father points out in the report points out the provocative military exercises the nuclear saber which is dangerous talk air patrols they are doing quite aggressively along all of the arctic as well as bulk takes the, including alaska up to the border and so forth. that is the cold war stuff with it for a long time. again, in 91 it stopped in without being moved beyond that and we would be back into that era of testing provocations and so forth. >> to fall on back, that is why i mentioned the art expenditure because i seabed really managing the remoteness and it has no
other goal. in fact, they scope of that today's is relatively modest. this center can even attempt. so you will have the minister of emergency situation taken care of the more domestic level and then you'll have the arctic are paid the more a border. even now, the bearing seed being on the side, but all the other parts of the art take will be very modest between 20 and 60 people they are rotating what we don't know which kind of equipment and so i think we should be happy just to have anything functioning as something happenings. the other element is the northern sea is another reissue.
it's in the arctic ever want to see a, but that's another issue because that the bilateral u.s.-russia relationship that is going on. so i see the northern cities with the spillover issue and also what is going on after the bearing sea and the managing of crises. >> the commandant of the coast guard told me that he is the only one of the service chiefs who can now meet with his counterpart and russia and on the issue of search and rescue, oil spill response, that they the arctic has proposed and
pledged to develop jointly, there is still progress going on and they cooperate on the fisheries enforcement along the maritime border in the bearing sea and that as long as they can continue that level of cooperation, it might be one of the confidence building measures. the military aspect again i think is the concern. >> to your point, one of the recommendations in the report. i think the u.s. government policymakers need to assess what this is. we try to scrub the facts and understand what is to mistake, what is not excessive to domestic use. on the security side, the arctic coast guard for an which will be formally launched this fall which will invite the head of the russian fsb to the coast guard academy is an important
part. that is the safety, the stewardship from the south security. the missing piece here is the heart security staff. as we were seeing, we all don't have enough and the russians have the most infrastructure but we are starting to see where it is dual use. just for civilian life or his neck, but that's something else and we just don't have the mechanism to understand that it's a problem if it's not a problem. i just worry because we are not thinking it through and we are not developing a forum for discussion. we are going to misinterpret each other a little too quickly and that's what we need to get our arms around. i think policymakers and intelligence community to assess this. there are some warning signs we need to understand. but that is a great question.
i see a couple of hands went up a bundle a few questions. will started. appearing take those two questions. again, please identify yourself with your name and affiliation. [inaudible] a question to anyone who wants to take it. are there any specific projects that aim for environmental protection in the arctic that russia is doing? any initiatives at all. marine protection, land protection, anything. thank you. >> thank you. my name is anita carlow, recent advisor to the arctic fisheries project. may i congratulate you on this remarkable presentation that tries and in fact fact bring together a variety of attempts to the separate to the separate and look at them together. you brought it to a point for
questions i would like to ask. one is when you are looking at the russian perspective and you brought it back to world war ii and the sense of immediacy of what happens when you could probably go back to the stars and napoleon. so when you look at nato and the claims articulation of nato enlargement and the sense of feeling pushed and what that means should it move to the art tick in the context of russia's utilization of international law to state and make its claims and offense as you pointed out 20% of economic development and a significant amount of forward vision in terms of economics and development in that area might there be a rethink in terms of our policy of how we might want to utilize nato or not utilize
nato was not part of the world and might not come a diminishment of that lead to a greater degree of trust on both sides and therefore capacity to communicate with there might not be because why do you want to communicate with somebody pushing in a military sense if you see it that way as a matter of perception. second part of the environmental protection and what comes first. environmental protection or development which has been a question since the industrial revolution. if you've been to north dakota so you could run the holes they every year in terms of what has been flared. in terms of the wii approach rather than what are you doing -- this is a question, might it make sense to look at that dimension as well. the increased presence of china i thought was an extremely interesting point. the question would be your exact
question if you are building economically, et cetera any think about nato and want to move forward not only with capabilities and you look at what's opening up economically any melting ice going on, do not want to protect her northern shores? thank you. >> window fernandez. quick question with dynamics changing in china, would you envision a wider involvement or hats from korea, other asian players for russian capital? >> i think csis needs to do a report on asian actors. with nato's role in the art taken a question about china and asia presence. who would like to begin?
>> on the environmental steps if i understood the question right, you have seen some steps that all the arctic nations have taken pledging good stewardship and so forth are there as recently an agreement among the five to suspend unregulated commercial fishing in the arctic until they can figure out to do more science on the stocks that are there. putin despite his perception well deserved, he's a bit of an environmentalist and one of the projects that has gone on is to clean up some of the debris left by the soviet union and the basis if you've ever been in the arctic, you know it's a difficult environment. when your car breaks down you just leave it there.
so imagine the massive soviet literary might that was up there. how long this island around vermont, teddy bear co., the village i was in that this military touch of military touch bases all over the place and they've announced projects to clean some of the spaces and it will take a long time of course. they have also created more prisoners than sanctuaries and so forth. and not patents, it is not like russia ignores the environment entirely. >> on not the soviet tradition of the environment, which means it's easier creating from any kind of human activity when you have a huge territory with the
population that doesn't really have some initiative of waste from the system and otherwise to municipalities and the cooperation and i think it would be the best. i don't think it can be a solution. pressure is cooperating with japanese relatively big fadeaway where korea is becoming active. the three asian companies have been kind of attention with a lot of illegal fishing between the tensions between the four
countries. the big question for russia is if they really want to try without turning totally throughout china they need to put japan in the picture and you need to see them serve that. that is one of the big issues is following but you still have to make a decision if you don't want to be uniquely bilateral framework with china, you need to find a way to be something with japan. >> on the environment of cooperation and we try to explore the softer side to keep dialogue going. the practical challenge because of the ngo file, because of the foreign agent requirement, now in some ways it is an anathema to have a western scientist or academic contact and that is just a practical issue that will
make scientific cooperation were difficult. it is occurring through the working groups, but again the hope for doing some larger records in the 90s if you remember the cooperation where we spent a lot of western assistance and elsewhere to clean up the radioactive units that were still left behind, that cooperation simply doesn't exist. that is an area where we need to do more exploration but it will run into practical applications. article v extends to the arctic full text. that nato has no formal role in the art tick at all. so i agree it is not going to be a vehicle right now to bring in that cooperation but there should be no misunderstanding the treaty applications to extend to the arctic and i think it's very interesting watching the dimension.
obviously when they join to the arctic council, the observers are trying to figure out their way. they want to be more involved. obviously great commercial interest in shipbuilding, oil platforms emulation technology is fantastic. but there is a lack of understanding and i think that will evolve over time but it's been interesting because there has been a tension between the art took five, the arctic eight of the council members and tensions between five and three and now you have 12 observer countries let alone non-governmental organizations. the arctic table is getting very big and there is concern that is crowding out the voices of the region so watch that space where they are tick is becoming a more global discussion topic but there's a lot of resist is
because the coastal states in particular as steve mentioned the phishing agreement was for the central art day. it was a preventive proactive diplomacy to say we need more science but that was not a five and there is even controversy. there is tension with why i find wasn't included in that. these issues will have been challenging dimensions in the future. i think we will take one more quick rapid round and then we will let our panelists concluded. there's one question about the top. >> good morning. ariel cohen at the atlantic council. as we are watching the russian economy declining in the oil price is project dead day in the 40 to 60 corridor, that raises
serious questions about the profitability of any russian oil and gas projects in the arctic. if the money into the russian budget is going down and the projects are not viable, why on earth you would spend loads of dollars if you're in moscow, why would you spend this money shoring up the art it? i understand these are great projects in the care of the end, you know, et cetera but looking to the future, looking not shale in west siberia to be cheaper than the arctic, looking at the u.s. continental north america and other places, i ran coming in mind, iraq hopefully pacifying and producing more oil and gas, why would you even
bother? thank you. >> one more question in the front and then we will conclude. >> hi, emily meredith from energy intelligence and i also have an energy related question. you all talked little bit about how the imposition of sanctions were viewed and i was wondering if you could speak a little bit to how the u.s. is out of arctic surely program that has been permitted recently is. >> steve, i will have you started and will close up. >> those are both great questions. i would say you could ask the very same question. they put $7 billion so far into the field. oil is 40 bucks. it is not going to be profitable at that level, at that price. shell says in their defense that they are looking way ahead and
the russians are doing the same thing. at least according to estimates, so much oil and gas up their on the assumption we continue to assume natural resources eventually will be accessible. this administration is pushing in many other sire is whether or not you can wean yourself from the reliance on oil and gas that would make drilling not necessary and cannot have been? i am not an oil expert so i don't know. there's some people who would like to see that happen in which case you would have to rethink. stockman was a bit project and the town i went to was because that is where the terminal was going to be. they built a road through town and all this infrastructure in the market changed and it's not
going to be built anytime soon. even putin says that for the next generation. to some degree, the uncertainty about the economic situation but also the kind of situation is partly why you see the investment continuing, but a little less vigorously now and a lot has been put on hold not just in russia but other parts of the arctic in terms of exploration projects and so forth. i think they will make a decision based on what they find this summer. you might see the project also go on the shelf for a while. >> to follow on that, that is a big issue because the investment is really something totally unrealistic and that is given the correct market. ..
the point for russia is also more complex. they are relative to mineral instruction. the extraction of metals. so if the price of nickel, copper collapse, that is impacting largely where you have the infrastructure. clear closely but also the market of metals. that's very much more lean to mineral. the price of minerals -- [inaudible] >> in some ways the president's visit is a perfect example.
heist traveling the anchorage to try to mitigate this. in fact, anticipating extending more leases. but see that that's right, it's because the reserves, potential reserves are extraordinary. these development horizon are 30-40 years out. so there are -- these are clear long-term strategies, but i'm going to be fascinated, and i hope we do public discussions, hearing what their assessments are. this is going to be candid, this is a make or break decision. the coast guard goes up there
seasonally. that is our infrastructure. that is only seasonal. we are not thinking for a long-term development. we certainly do have the vision. that's what we have to prepare for. well, this has been a fantastic conversation. after two years, this report is also like a birthing process, we've nurtured this for a while. we hope you read this. it's online. we hope it stimulates further conversation. my special thanks to my dear friend that's been instrumental in building this. this is our last week here. i ask you to applaud and i want
you to share that applause for >> speaking in anchorage, president obama says climate change affects everyone, but particularly those in northern arctic areas such as alaska. on this morning's "washington pollal" we will look at a asking whether americans are happy with the direction of the country. plus, a conversation about china's economy. atashington journal" is live the top of the hour. a couple of live events to tell you about on c-span 2. secretary castro will be joined by walter mondale to kick off the 2015 national fair housing conference. as a senator, mr. mondale have
past the 1968 fair housing act. live coverage this morning at 9:00 a.m. conversationoon, a on the impact of russian arms and technology transfers to china. that is live from the center for strategic and international studies at 2:00 eastern on c-span 2. a conference in anchorage, alaska, president obama said urgent action is needed to combat climate change. the president spoke added to a event -- two day event and was introduced by secretary john kerry. [applause] secretary kerry: thank you very much. thank you, all. governor walker. andtenant governor -- senator murkowski and senator
sullivan. we are so appreciative to alaska for an absolutely spectacular welcome here. it is fair to say on behalf of all my colleagues that have been part of this daylong discussion, a tremendous been reception in alaska but importantly a very constructive and substantive day. i think every delegation here will agree that we have covered an enormous amount of territory, today reinforced here that every nation that ares about the future -- that cares about the future of the arctic has a responsibility to be a leader in taking action and urging others to take bold action to deal with this challenge. it is immediate, and it requires ambitious steps to curb the emission of greenhouse gases and deal with methane, coastal erosion, fisheries, a host of
challenges that alaska particularly faces. there is no mystery as we saw reinforced in very dramatic presentations by a number of scientists, no mystery at all about what a failure to act would mean. we can already see it. we can already measure it. and alaskans are living it every single day. we confirmed today that we cannot afford to wait until implementse moves to solutions for the challenges that confront us in the arctic. i'm very pleased that through today's glacier meeting, we made progress in a host of areas. our communiqué will summarize that, including addressing climate change, the impacts, enhancing resilience, strengthening emergency response, improving air quality and promoting renewable energy and household innovations that will increase efficiency and
community health at the same time. everyone in this room knows here at the circular table and those in the audience are connected to the arctic in some way. and so are all the citizens we represent. the fate of the region is not just the responsibility of the arctic. the arctic states, even themselves. we agreed today that it is everyone's responsibility. and it with that purpose in mind that i turn now to the next speaker who understands all of this. all of what is at stake. changingt posed by a arctic has long been a top priority for president barack obama. he has repeatedly defined climate change as one of the great challenges we face in this century. and the president has stated clearly that what is happening in alaska isn't just a preview
of what will happen to the rest of us if we don't take action. it is our wake-up call. the alarm bells are ringing, to quote the president. since 2009, president obama has demonstrated repeatedly he is committed to meeting this challenge before it is too late. not with words but with actions. that's why he put forward and national strategy that establishes a comprehensive and long-term vision for our arctic engagement. that is why he created the arctic executive steering committee to prepare for a changing arctic and to enhance coordination of national efforts here. and that's why today, thanks to the president's climate action plan, the united states is well on its way to meeting our international commitments to seriously cut our greenhouse gas emissions by 2020 and beyond while bolstering our nations resilience to ensure communities thrive and that economies
flourish. and that is why he has price or prioritized many other things. including the renaming of a famous mom. mountain.amous and i think we can say that denali never looked better than it does today. [applause] secretary kerry: that is why the president has prioritized working with so many partners because he knows all of us together have to do so much more to meet this threat and have to do it now and it will not be done without our concerted, global commitment. ladies and gentlemen, the president of the united states, barack obama. [applause]
president obama: thank you so much. please. it is wonderful to be here in the great state of alaska. [cheers and applause] president obama: i want to thank secretary kerry and members of my administration for your work here today. and thank you to the many alaskans, alaska natives, another indigenous people to the traveled a long way to share
your insights and experiences. arctic who for hosting this conference and i love afford to visiting more of alaska over the next few days. the united states is an arctic nation. even if this is not an official gathering of the atlantic council, the united states is proud to cheer it for the next two years. and to all the foreign dignitaries who were here, i want to be very clear, we are eager to work with your nations on the unique opportunities the arctic present at the unique
challenges that it faces. we are not going to any of us solve these challenges by ourselves. we can only solve them together. of course we are here today to discuss the challenge that will defy the contours of this century more dramatically than any other. and that is the growing threat of a changing climate. our understanding of climate change advances each day. human activity is disrupting the climate. in many ways, faster than we previously thought. the science is stark. it is sharpening. it proves this was distant threat is very much in the present. the arctic is the leading edge of climate change.
our leading indicator of what the entire planet faces. arctic temperatures are rising about twice as fast as the global average. over the past 60 years, alaska has warned about twice as fast as the rest of the united states. last year was alaska's hottest year on record. just as it was for the rest of the world. the impacts here are very real. destabilizing the earth on which 100,000 alaskans live threatening homes, damaging transportation and imagery infrastructure which can cause billions of dollars to fix. warmer oceans and rivers and migration of entire species threaten the livelihood of indigenous peoples and local economies dependent on fishing and tourism. reducing sea levels. villages unprotected from floods and surges. some are in imminent danger and
some will have to relocate entirely. in fact, alaska has some of the swiftest shoreline erosion's in the world. one alaska native told me many of our villages are ready to slide off into the waters of alaska. in some cases, there will be absolutely no hope. we would need to move many villages. alaska's fire season is now more than a month longer than it was in the 1950's. at one point, more than 300 wildfires were burning at once. southeast of here, pacific northwest, even the rain forest is on fire. more than 5 million acres in alaska have been scorched by fire this year. an area about the size of massachusetts.
if you add the fires across canada and siberia, we are talking 300 million acres. an area about the size of new york. this is a threat to many communities but also an immediate threat to the men and women who put their lives on the line to protect us. three firefighters lost their lives fighting a fire in washington state. another has been a critical condition. we are thankful to each and every firefighter for their heroism including the canadian firefighters. the point is climate change is no longer some far off problem. it is happening here and now. climate change is already disrupting our agriculture and ecosystems. our water and food supplies. our energy, our infrastructure,
human health, human safety. now, today, climate change is a trend that affects all trends. economic trends, security trends, everything will be impacted. it becomes more dramatic with each passing year. already it is changing the way alaskans live. and considering the arctic's unique role in affecting the global climate, it will accelerate changes to the way we all live. since 1979, the arctic has decreased by more than 40%. a decrease which is dramatically accelerated over the past two decades. one new study as a method that the glaciers lose all 75%
gigatons, 75 billion tons of ice each year. to put that in perspective, one scientist described a gigaton as a block the size of the national mall in washington. from congress all the way to the lincoln memorial, four times as tall as the washington monument. imagine. that's what alaska's glaciers alone lose each year. the pace of melting is only getting faster. it is now twice what it was between 1950 and 2000. twice as fast as it was just a little over a decade ago. it is one of the reasons why sea levels rose about eight inches over the last century and why they are projected to rise another 1-4 feet this century.
consider as well many of the fires burning today are actually burning through the permafrost in the arctic. this permafrost stores massive amounts of carbon. when the permafrost is no longer permanent, when it thaws or burned, these gases are released into our atmosphere. over time and that coming to arctic might become a new source of emissions that further accelerate global warming. if we do nothing, temperatures in alaska are projected to rise between six and 12 degrees by the end of the century, triggering more melting and more fires, more thawing of the permafrost. a negative feedback loop, the cycle, warming leading to more
warming. we do not want to be a part of. and the fact is climate is changing faster than our efforts to it. that must change. we are not acting fast enough. i have come here today as the leader of the world's largest economy to say the united states recognizes our role in creating this problem and we embrace our responsibility to help solve it. and i believe we can solve it. that is the good news. even if we cannot reverse the damage we have already caused, we have the means, the scientific imagination, and
technological innovation to avoid irreparable harm. for the first time in our history the global economy grew and global emissions stay flat. we are making progress, we are now making it fast enough. here in the united states where trying to do our part. since i took office 6.5 years ago, the united states has made ambition investments in clean energy. we've now harness three times as much electricity from wind and 20 times as much from the sun. alaskans lead the world in the development of wind systems from remote grids. it is expanding solar and biomass resources. we have invested in energy efficiency and every imaginable way.
our buildings, our cars, our trucks, our homes, even the appliances inside of them. we are consumers billions of dollars along the way. here in alaska, more than 15,000 homeowners have cut their bills by 30% on average and that collectively saves more than $50 million each year. we have helped communities build infrastructure to prepare for the impacts of climate change we can no longer prevent. earlier this month, i announced the first set of nationwide standards to end the limitless dumping from our power plants. the second most important step the u.s. has taken on climate change. over the course of the coming days, i intend to speak more about the particular challenges facing alaska and the united states as an arctic power.
i tend to announce new measures. -- intended to announce new measures. we are working hard to do our part to meet this challenge. in doing so, where proven that does not have to be a conflict between a sound environment and a strong economic growth. but we are not moving fast enough. none of the nations represented here are moving fast enough. let's be honest. there is always been an argument against taking action. the notion is it will curb our economic growth and at a time when people are anxious about the economy, that is an argument often times for inaction.
we do not want our lifestyles disrupted. in countries where there remain significant poverty including united states, the notion is can we really afford to prioritize decisions. the irony is few things will disrupt our lives as profoundly as climate change. few things can have as negative impact on our economy as climate change. on the other hand, technology is advanced to the point where any economic disruption from transitioning to a cleaner more efficient economy is shrinking by the day. clean energy and energy efficiency are not just proven cost-effective, but also cost saving. the costs of solar are coming
down rapidly. we are still under investing. america's biggest businesses recognize the opportunity and are seizing them. they are choosing a new route. and a growing number of american homeowners are choosing to go solar every day -- it works. all told, america's economy has grown 6% over the past 20 years but our carbon emissions are roughly back to where they were years ago. we know how to use less dirty fuel and grow our economy at the same time. but we are not moving fast enough. more americans everyday are doing their part thanks to their efforts, america will reach the emission target i set six years
ago. we will reduce our carbon emissions in the range of 17% by 2020. and that is why last year i said a new target. america is going to reduce 26% to 28% by 10 years from now. that was part of a historic joint announcement made last year in beijing. america will double the pays in china committed for the first time because of the world's two largest economies came together. we are seeing other nations stepping up aggressively as well. i am determined to make sure american leadership continues to drive international action. we cannot do this alone. even america and china alone cannot do it. all the countries represented around here cannot do it alone. we have to do it together.
this year in paris has to be the year that the world finally reaches an agreement to protect the one planet we have got while we still can. let me sum up. we know human activity is changing the climate. that is beyond dispute. everything else is politics. people are denying the facts of climate change. we could have a legitimate debate about how we are going to address this problem, we cannot deny the science. we also know the devastating consequences if the current trend continues. that is not deniable. and we are going to have to do some adaptation and we are going to help communities be resilient
because some of these we were not been to stop on a dime. we are not going to stop tomorrow. if the trend continues the way they are, there's not going to be a nation on this earth not impacted negatively. people will suffer. economies will suffer. entire nations will find it themselves under severe, severe problems. more drought. more floods. rising sea levels. greater migration. more refugees.
more scarcity, more conflict. that is one path we can take. the other path is to embrace the human ingenuity that can do something about it. this is within our power. it is a solvable problem. if we start now. and we're starting to see enough consensus is being built internationally and within each of our politics that we may have the political will finally to get moving. the time to heed the critics and cynics and deniers has passed. the time to plead ignorance is surely passed. those who want to ignore the
science, they are increasingly alone. they are on their own shrinking island. so -- [applause] president obama: let's remember beyond the climate benefits of more resilient energy, the byproduct of it is we make our air cleaner. and a safer for children to breathe. we are also making our economies more resilient to energy shocks on global markets. were making our countries less reliant on unstable parts of the world. we are gradually powering a planet on its way to 9 billion humans in a more sustainable way. these are good things. this is not simply a danger to be avoided. an opportunity to be seized.
but we have to keep going. we are making a difference but we have to keep going. we are not moving fast enough. if we abandoned our course of action and stop trying to build a clean air economy and do nothing to keep glaciers from melting faster in oceans for rising faster and storms from growing stronger, we will condemn our children to a planet beyond their capacity to repair. abandoned cities, fields no longer growing and indigenous people who cannot care of traditions that stretch back millennia. entire industries of people who cannot practice their livelihood. desperate refugees seeking the sanctuary of nations not their own. political disruption that can trigger multiple conflicts. that is not a future strong
economic growth not where freedom and human rights are on the move. any leader willing to take a gamble on a future like that, any so-called leader who does not take this issue seriously or treats it like a joke, is not fit to lead. on this issue of all issues, there is such a thing of being too late. that is why we are here today. that is what will convey tar people, tomorrow, the next day and the day after. that is what have to do with we meet in paris later this year. it will not be easy. there are hard questions to answer. i am not trying to suggest that there are not going to be
difficult transitions we all have to make. but if we unite our highest aspirations and if we make our best efforts to protect this planet for future generations -- we can solve this problem. and when you leave this conference center, i hope you look around. hope you have a chance to visit a glacier. or just look out of your airplane window as you depart and take in the god-given majesty of this place. for those of you flying to other parts of the world, do it again when you are flying over your home countries. remind yourself that there will come a time when your grandkids and mine, if i'm lucky enough to have some, want to see this. they want to experience this just as with gotten to do in our
own lives. they deserve to live lives free from fear and want and peril. ask yourself if you are doing everything you can to protect it? are we doing everything to make their lives safer and more prosperous? let's prove that we care about them and their long-term futures. not just short-term political expediency. i had a chance to meet with some native peoples before i came in here. and they described for me villages that are slipping into the sea. and the changes taking place. changing migratory patterns. the changing fauna so that was
used to feed the animals that they would in turn hunt or fish are beginning to vanish. it is urgent for them today, but that that is the future for all of us if we do not take care. your presence here today indicates your recognition of that. but it is not enough to just have conferences. it is not enough to just talk the talk. we have got to walk the walk. we've got work to do. and we have got to do it together. thank you. and may god bless all of you and your countries and thank alaska for your wonderful hospitality. thank you. [applause] >> ladies and gentlemen, please remain in your seats until
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