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getting rid of the prohibition. it's all prohibition, and it's costing us lives in this country for no reason, other than people in washington have got their heads up their butts. thank you. on that topic. we will focus on campaign 2016 in the next one. the boston globe editor shira center will talk with a list of elements in the campaign, the upcoming debates, recent polling, and advertising. taking a look at that situation. later on, stephen denis will join us. he's going to talk about commerce's agenda, which would talk to little bit about this morning. you can talk to him about specifics. and also what happens now that congress has returned from their summer break. yesterday president was in boston not only to talk about changes in wants to make
for federal contractors on the topic of paid sick leave, but also we talked about the middle class, and his idea of middle class economics. here's a bit from that speech yesterday. [video clip] president obama: republican to try to rebrand themselves as the party of the middle class. i'm glad they are doing it. i want them to start rethinking their positions on issues. i would love to work with them on stuff. but you can't just talk the talk. you've got to walk the walk. you can't talk middle-class and then do things that hurt the middle class. you can't say you care about working people and then do things that hurt working people. i will give you an example. republicans in washington have the chance to prove they really care about working families. congress has to pass a budget. this month, or they risk shutting down the government for the second time in two years.
everybody knows the world economy is pretty volatile right now. our economy is a relative bright spot. we are doing better than just about everybody else. be a shutdown would completely responsible. it would be an unforced error. a fumble on the goal line. [laughter] obama: it would be like a ground ball slipping through somebody's legs. you guys of want a couple since a couple -- have won since that time. if you had had 70 world series wins, i wouldn't make that joke. it doesn't have to happen. congress can pass a budget. it does away with the so-called sequester that lops things off, whether it's good or not for the economy. it harms our military. hurts working people. invest innstead
working families. invest in our military readiness, invest in schools, rebuild roads, rebuild our ports, revealed airports. put people back to work now. i will find that budget. i'm ready to work with them. more if you want to see about that speech, go to our website at c-span.org for his remarks made on labor day. joining us now from boston is shira center, the political boston globe," talk about campaign 2016. good morning. guest: thank you for having me. a lot of the papers are talking about hillary clinton, specifically the new york times has the headline that they are talking about a new shift in the campaign, more interviews, more interaction with people. was does this tell he someone who exerts 2016 campaigns, specifically for her campaign? it says her campaign
needed to make a shift. it's been a rough summer for the former secretary of state with the e-mail scandal continuing to evolve. needed --gn really saw the need to make a shift. not only with the general public, but also with the media, which has been covering her and the e-mail scandal so closely. the goal was to put her in front of cameras more frequently, with reporters more frequently, and show more of her personality and engage with the media little more incident trying to shield them. the things the story suggests is how she approaches this e-mail situation. seeing, and one of the things that voters need to hear about this topic? so far, she has not apologized for the e-mail thing. it does not look like she is going to apologize for the e-mail thing. i made the decision i made at the time, i didn't think it would be a big deal. obviously i regret it. but she has not apologized.
i don't know if voters necessarily need a full on apology from hillary clinton. but they do need to see her out there are talking about this a little bit more, and explaining in a little bit more. her surrogates and supporters have been doing that job on the cable news networks and in news stories across the country. i think they do need to see words from her mouth talking about it and explaining her side of it a little more. you talk about voters, focus on the area of the country you live, northeast, specifically new hampshire. recent news about bernie sanders campaign and hillary clinton's campaign in that state, where does it stand? news: a new poll from nbc shows bernie sanders from new york -- from vermont is leading by several points now over hillary clinton in the first in the nation primary. it follows a couple of other polls that showed something along the same lines. it shows bernie sanders has taken a lead in this race for now. i'm going to eat poor a whole
heap of salt on this. new hampshire voters are notoriously fickle. they make their minds of the last-minute, it's a very difficult state to poll. i know pollsters who don't touch it with a 10 foot pole, no pun intended. in many cases, the democratic primary in new hampshire, you are getting a very liberal population of voters that are being pulled right now. while it says bernie sanders is ahead by seven to nine points to pending on which server you are looking at, this is not -- i would be shocked if this is what the result is on primary day in early february. it's going to change a whole lot between now and then. said, "washington the campaign spent about $2.6 million alone in new hampshire's first television ads. they have beent: up in iowa try to get her campaign message out.
evenin the digital age, it in the doldrums of summer when no one is really watching tv, television is still the best way for campaigns to get the message out. not as strong as it once was, but television is still the best way for campaigns to get their message out. spending on tv, when you are down in the polls, sounds like smart strategy to me. host: one of the nature of the ads been? how they show her in a sense? guest: i try and personalize her. one of the ads focused on her mother, and her relationship with her mother. you also see an appeal to female voters there. they focus on hillary clinton and traders a fighter for women and children. that's a little different. they don't necessarily bring up her time the secretary of state, tangentially her time in the united states senate. they view her as a fighter, trying present result fighter for women and children. that's interesting. in new hampshire in the past, she won the democratic primary
by just a few points in 2008 because of female voters. she's looking to rely on that again in 2016. us fromira center with the "boston globe," to talk about campaign politics. if you have questions, democrats call (202) 748-8000. republicans call (202) 748-8001. independents, call (202) 748-8002. tweet your thoughts as well @cspanwj. can you talk about ben carson? one of the stories we are seeing is his rise in the polls. why is it happening? guest: ben carson is rising in the polls. definitely iowa. i've seen him ahead of donald trump in iowa. not as much in new hampshire. ben carson is a national figure in the republican party. he is well-known, he has strong a modification. it's not a huge surprise is
doing well in these polls. i think the timing of his rise is interesting. it a lot of republicans say they thought his appearance at the first debate was quite strong. see anrst republicans appeal in ben carson they don't see in any other candidates. they see an outsider, someone they believe can take on the system, but who is not as brash perhaps as donald trump. ways, ben carson has become this on alternative to donald trump for republicans who want an outsider to run for president. as far as new hampshire specifically, what kind of influence, give us some detail guest:. guest:ben carson's new hampshire operation -- i want to say minimal. but given where he is in the polls, it's surprisingly small. other people in the state have much larger operations. hillary clinton has huge operations, bernie sanders is building his operation. you see john kay's again jeb bush with larger operations then ben carson.
also interesting is looking at ben carson's travel schedule. he's not a candidate that comes back to new hampshire every single week. he doesn't even seem to violate everything the week. if you look at the campaign schedule, which we get in our allx every week, he's going across the country. to arizona, to california. compared to the amount of time of the candidates are spending in early states, it's certainly not as much. host: shira center joining us from boston to talk about 2016 politics. first call is from rachel, from forney, texas. you are on which your center. go ahead. in texas.live rick perry has done a lot for taxes. there's jobs, we have better schools, and everything else. crews -- ted cruz. he wasn't born in the united states, and a man has done nothing for taxes at all.
he works hard to get into the cameras. that's all he does. i just want to know why they haven't focused on ted cruz -- where he was born at. this is someone that voted for obama twice. i would back rick perry in a heartbeat. why is he not closer to the front runner, with everything he's done? people have moved from other states just to come to taxes for the jobs that rick perry himself is done. he made a mistake during the debates when he misspoke. he might not talk the talk, but he does the job about getting things done. that's what i don't understand. he's done a lot for taxes. host: racial, thank you. -- rachel, thank you. guest: on paper, rick perry seems like a strong candidate for president.
he's been a governor for three terms in one of the biggest economies of the world. the campaign he has run has not been strong, frankly. reports thate seen he has had to let go of a lot of staff because he can't afford to pay them. you can see one of the only reasons he is still in the race is because he is a super pac to keep the train moving. he has not run a strong campaign this time around. it a lot of it is paying for his sense of 2012, from being -- the mistakes he made in the debates. in the other mistakes he made throughout the 2012 campaign. it of republicans said he had his chance in 2012. if you talk to republican voters they said i looked at him in 2012, but now the field is so much larger and there are so many more choices from which they can choose. they can look elsewhere now. one of the places theyre looking us towards ted cruz, the u.s. senator from texas. host: jerome up next in burlison, tennessee. democrat line. caller: the last caller is right
about ted cruz and marco. they don't belong in this country. they are just troublemakers trying to shut the government down. my main comment is hillary clinton. why she lower in the polls? republicans just threw something at obama, causing him to be low in the polls. [indiscernible] democrats are trying to do the same thing around hillary. guest: it's complicated. more than anyrats other candidate are backing hillary clinton. we have a bunch of other dynamics going on. you have people who have not been longtime fans of hillary clinton or her husband, that segment of the party. waiting to see if joe biden gets into the race. joe biden was in congress, he was in the senate for a very long time. he has a lot of friends in
washington. he has campaigned for a lot of people around the country. we cannot underestimate the loyalty he has built, role who talk about the clintons at and how much loyalty they have built in congress, joe biden has also been there a long time. i think democrats have the potential to be quite splintered of joe biden gets into the race. democrats are hesitant given the way the clinton campaign is handled the e-mail controversy over the summer. i think they are a little slow to coalesce behind her totally because they don't know what the deal is going to look like. and they wanted to see if she could ride out the e-mail controversy. host: we saw joe biden in pittsburgh yesterday. a lot of of people saying run, joe, run. one of the liabilities for joe biden, if he decides to run, his strength is in south carolina. you can see a path for him to win it. hillary has had lackluster performance in the new hampshire
primary and iowa caucuses. with bernie sanders winning one in her coming in second, that is an opening in south carolina for jill biden to win and ride the wave of momentum. of talks been a lot among democrats about focusing his campaign in south carolina. estate that has been pretty neglected relative to other democrats in the race. that is one thing. joe biden which is getting in the raise rather late. there are fundraising challenges. a lot of donors have committed to hillary. they can donate to both or they can switch sides and go further and fundraising for jill biden, so there is flexibility. but a whole lot are in team clinton's camp. joe biden was never known for being an amazing fundraiser in senate and previous presidential run. act forre is the valid question. few would have to organize quickly among the early states
and across the country to make sure he was on the primary ballot in all states necessary to get delegates and go for the convention. host: from kim in virginia. .or shira center go ahead. caller: a caller s back asked ra about why hillary is low. i know it is basically because of her backers. it is wall street, keystone, and the risks [indiscernible] and we don't want to risk it anymore. it has been decades of disasters in our oceans. we have bad zones and this is the party now. not the party of yesterday that was about greed. we have children to raise, we want their health. we do not want oil money. we don't want are many going to pollution.
that is where we are. everybody seems to be ignoring it in the media, but bernie sanders is talking to us. we are the majority. we are going to put sanders in. that is all i have to say. host: shira center, go ahead. guest: i don't think can is alone in the fact that she is backing bernie sanders and has backed barack obama. this is something we see in new hampshire with the liberal segment of the democratic voter base. a lot of them are dissatisfied with the obama administration and which she had went further with liberal policies. they see bernie sanders as the antidote. they see him as the guy who can do it. other democrats raise questions about electability in the general context. that is a discussion for another this caller is not alone. we do see many barack obama backers in new hampshire who are backing bernie sanders. host: give us an outlook of the
political outsider and the role they have had in this campaign with you are talking about trump, or sanders? guest: so ironic the guy who has been running for years is considered a political outsider but i think it is because of his self-proclaimed infinity for socialism that he is considered an outsider. he has also rent a unique campaign. he is starting to professionalize and build a class of operation, but he has as as anning outsider for corporate greed and capitalism and it has worked in terms of crowds. he has raised quite a bit of money. we will cf. the end of september at the fundraising will go. the question is longevity. this is the outsider candidate model. they can ride this wave but only so long. how long until voters take a more critical look? how long until the become more interested in the process and the polls show a little bit?
it is a question of if they can ride this wave for the new hampshire primary and i will caucus. -- and i will caucus. it is difficult to turn that grassroots operation into something that could really turn people out in a caucus or primary. wrinkly, one of the only people, and i know some of your viewers would cripple went whether this person is an outsider, barack obama is one of the only people who has been able to do that. rog. from florida, here is caller: dr. ben carson has theten -- has risen in polls because he had almost no coverage until about one week or two ago when he started to get the keystone mentioned. every other single candidate when they announced in -- did an hour-long feature with all the networks attending the opening announcement. candidate is the red
of this entire election on all sides. [indiscernible] he has got organizations underground. carson, dr. ben [indiscernible] africa, the waves of refugees that are leaving the continent of africa, this is a major global problem that is going to affect the economy of europe, affect the global economy, and their paradigm fixes the problems in africa. i think donald trump is going to fall. not know who general civil money was in the debates. he should have looked that up. the very next morning after ted cruz was asked the same question in the debate. he knew all the answers in he was notetail, so
questions ascha donald trump. that is something down -- donald trump should have no chapter and verse and he did not even know that one month after the debate. host: thank you. we will let our guest respond. guest: ben carson undeniably has an appeal within the republican party and relative to the other candidates in the large field. the question is will he have the organization to turn that appeal into an electoral success? right now, frankly, i do not see least.ew hampshire, at he has enthusiastic support when it comes and visits, people run down the streets and they cannot wait to meet ben carson. he has a fan base. he does. a lot of people of ben carson as a candidate but i do not see the structure for campaign in early states that matches his competition. host: caller the caller -- the about hisked
knowledge of foreign policy. what do you think of the long-term effects? we have been down this road with donald trump, what does it do to him long-term? guest: long-term, i think he might not do many more interviews with hugh hewitt week as is donald trump and he can decide that. that will probably be the first effect. i think in the long term, it is interesting because donald trump has become the teflon candidate. all of the stuff that would stick to other candidates, look at what mitt romney had to go through in 2012. all of the stuff that would stick to the candidates is not sticking to donald trump. he is the exception to every role in politics somehow. i would be surprised if he comes in first place in the iowa caucuses were new hampshire primary. i think he would place in the top but he is leading in the polls. i think we will see a series of moments like these. ,ot huge blunders, but mistakes
things that would give voters some doubt, reasons for hesitancy, and it is going to be more like a dissent by paper of a few paper cuts and it will be a big explosion of his candidacy and he will sink in the polls. host: this pledge he signed last week -- what do you think, first of all that he signed it, but that they asked him to sign it? guest: i think it was a good pr move by the rnc. they are among republicans right now that they were concerned you would run as an independent. it is an incredible opportunity for the democrats to win again if you once as an independent. look in 1992. for republicans it was a good thing. they can seem like they are working with trump, but they do not have an adversarial relationship with trump. in the end, if someone asks rnc legal counsel of this was legally binding, it is not clear that it is. if he breaks his pledge and decides to run as an independent
-- what is the rnc going to do? i be going to sue him? probably not because that is a bigger pr mess. while this is good for the time being, i would not be surprised if donald trump decides to forget about it in six months. host: here is surely from marble falls, texas. democrat line. thank you for waiting period go ahead. caller: thank you. we were discussing rick perry earlier. in texas, the teachers retirement fund was put in to the general fund at the time they did that and there was about $22 billion. it is now $80 billion, 88 alien dollars if i'm not mistaken -- $80 billion, if i'm not mistaken, of retirement money is in the general fund in taxes. therefore, texas has 20 of money to operate and they had been .hort like $20 billion i think people need to know that
that is what is happening to teachers in texas and that rick perry knows that and he is he did saying how well run in texas, he did not. the teachers retirement fund funds texas. thank you very much. add: if you wanted to something? guest: no, i just think there is --rick perry is a divisive there is no question rick perry is a divisive figure but probably not as much as ted cruz. host: from michigan, republican mind, gloria. caller: why don't we hear more about jim webb and the democratic ticket? his candidacy seems to be ignored by the media. host: shira center? guest: i can speak directly to this. we wrote a story about jim webb a couple weeks back. we tried to get in touch with them, we tried to do an
interview. his campaign spokesman men did an interview with us because jim webb relate the message that he does not like her interviews. they say he is running a unique campaign. public events are minimal. i would describe its organization in the early states as nearly nonexistent at this point. we cannot cover him if he is not campaigning, so next time he goes into new hampshire and he would like to sit down, we would absolutely talk to him. also on the democratic side, martin o'malley. tell me what kind of impact he is making. guest: martin o'malley has been in iowahard enough -- and new hampshire, yet, a whole host of circuits come through this day. last weekend, he spent time in the state himself. tough run for martin o'malley. it seems like hillary clinton
and bernie sanders have sucked up a lot of oxygen and it is hard to see him go further than a couple points in the polls. his campaign is not gaining a lot of traction. still running hard and they have some loyal followers and they have an infrastructure and staff. this is not the rick perry situation by any means. they have a long way to go and a difficult road. host: one other candidate entering the race, lawrence lessig, because of figures he has raised. who is he n.y.c. running? -- who is he n.y.c. running? he and why is he running? guest: he is a lawyer and he has a following nationwide because of his outspoken opinion about majorle of corporate and
influence over elections in this country. he has decided to run for president. i believe he is in new hampshire today campaigning. host: from austin, texas, this is alex. go ahead. earlie, when you first got on, you said hillary needed i was forze and benghazi and all these other things. what exactly did you mean by that? do think she had not broken any laws? if not or whatever for this apology, or that be able to pull herself out of this crazy media pit she has never something to? i really want to know what you meant by apology. thank you. that, if i can clarify thought what i said was that she
had not apologized yet for the evil controversy which is different from what happened in benghazi. i was just stating whether -- what had happened, i did not say that she should apologize. austin, texas. james from new jersey. democrat line. caller: how are you doing, c-span? thank you for taking my call. one question and one opinion. what do you think about [indiscernible] thatinion about it is bernie sanders is the only one that has corporation welfare and energies.o renewables thank you. i did not quite here the question. did you hear it? host: he was talking about corporation welfare.
i don't know if you make more of a statement than that. and he addressed how bernie sanders would address those kinds of things. is a big issue for bernie sanders more so than anyone else in the race for presidency. he has staked a lot of this campaign about the inequality of capitalism and what he believes is the corporations that have for making a big old box on the backs of working class in america. this is a major part in bernie sanders campaign probably heard of talk about it yesterday in new hampshire. host: jeb bush is scheduled to appear on stephen colbert's opening show. talk about what that appearance means as far as his campaign and where he is at. guest: i think it means jeb bush is trying to add a few more escalation points to the end of this logo. no, this is a good setting. he does well in interview formats and he knows that with one on ones, but i think it is
great that stephen colbert's first show is his greatest ability for jeb bush and a time when he is declining in the poll and a great reason to a mind republican voters that he is there and show his sense of humor. donald trump has insulted and criticized jeb bush for being a low-energy guy, well, you cannot beat low-energy and do well on stephen colbert. i think part of what this appearance will show is a of jeb bush and i think it is a good appearance for him. host: as far as new hampshire, how is jeb bush connecting to voters there? i really setsh, out on what i thought was going to be the mitt romney strategy. he was going to try and write out a volatile summer, which it has been in the polls, and in the end, all of the more fiscallyminded and conservative republicans would eventually come back to jeb bush
in the primary. so far, that is not what polling has shown. between the rise of donald trump and ben carson, there is a splintering of this massive republican field and jeb bush has dropped in the polls to single digits in new hampshire. put is a problem because he a lot of this campaign in new hampshire. he was heading off to new hampshire went to carry him through the primary, less so than i was. he put a lot of resources and time in new hampshire, so i think he will continue on this path and continue to tough it out over the next few months. maybe his fortunes will change. michigan, john, good morning. go ahead. caller: speaking of ben carson, i heard her say that we did not think that he -- well, you know, i said the people at the time, g, no one has mentioned ben carson. even when he got up next to the polls, they started saying his name. very seldom interviewing him,
just occasionally. he, too, like jeb bush has been good sense of humor. if people have a better chance to know him, you might be surprised what money would come forth. i just think they should all receive time and i don't -- he is a brilliant man and i do not think you should have been shut out. these are newspeople. they're supposed to report news and he certainly is a news happening. that is my feeling. one of the last two times, it may have been the last time or the last two times carson was in new hampshire, we wrote a front-page feature on him and his loyal following in the grand of states. -- and the granite state. yes, we cover him when he comes to town as resources recovered him recently. do you find that he is generally open to press availabilities and talking to the media? guest: i would say so. we had a reporter trail him for the day. access, shety good
got to talk to him for little bit. certainly, compared to other candidates, he is open. host: darrell from oregon. good morning. caller: good morning. i wish you a wonderful day after you are done, but my comment is , iregards to just in general do not think a lot of people understand what is going to happen with things like the aca, iran nuclear deal, all of these by republicanare or democrat when you have this new president coming in. it does not matter who comes in, whether it be tromp, ben carson, or jeb bush, whoever. there was going to be so much more turmoil in our congress and they started that people are going to start going, what the heck is going on now? because you had what? for years or five years with the aca and it has finally calmed down and people are getting
insurance. i am a veteran, so i see a lot of this, people concerned about their insurance cost and whether it will come down. i do not yet coming down yet. will it come down the next term with the next president? will it be jumped because somebody did not want it in the first place? where's the next turmoil at? the refugee crisis or the iran deal, do they eventually filter into discussions of 2016 politics? guest: absolutely, especially on the republican side right now. as the top two issues that republicans are talking about -- immigration and for policy, fighting extremism abroad, less of the refugee crisis, but i think that is about to bubble up into the conversation pretty soon as well. yes, it is a huge issue on the republican side and hillary clinton has been speaking about iran deal. candidates are talking more about foreign policy in this
election than they have been a long time, with the exception of the iraq war. host: your chance to talk about the 2016 campaign politics of the boston globe -- (202)-784-8000 for democrats. (202)-784-8001 for republicans. and for independents -- (202)-748-8002. north carolina is next where tom is on the democrat line. caller: good morning. as far as the republicans, everybody is talking about jeb bush. did they not remember what he did to us in 2000? the republicans tied up the election in court's because of the florida votes? around andrned ordered the secretary of state to get all of their electoral votes to his brother. since then, what have we got? let's see, in 2002, we got deregulating the banks.
in 2008, we got the recession because of that. that is almost a depression when it did to the stock market and the banks. that is history now. everybody is looking at hillary clinton and they should be looking at bernie sanders. bernie sanders shared the house of representatives veterans committee for years and did a -- forgood things there the veterans. he will carry the veterans both and that could push and over-the-top. they need to forget about hillary and worry about bernie sanders. thank you very much. i will take your comments out there. thank you. host: shira center? guest: i will not speak to the recount of 2000 and jeb bush's involvement, but i will say looking at his economic influence in florida is something that is important for us as the media and also for voters to examine. i think the fact that it
happened in part is just a result of such a crowded field. when there are 17 republican candidates to cover, you cannot cover them with the same intensity as you would feel the 3, 4, five, or even six. i do think it would be something people would probably be looking at a lot more closely in a smaller field, which we may end up getting closer to in march. host: shira center, as a get closer and as the debate takes place vote with democrats, the headline over the weekend, it says a hands-off for democratic race, clinton and sanders will not speak ill of each other. do you think that will change, and if so, how soon? toughie, in the past, in her 2008 primary, she did not shy away from when it go negativesary to on barack obama. bernie sanders less so. i don't think i have seen them
go negative, especially on the national stage on another person or member of the democratic party. you could see it a little bit, but if clinton attacks sanders and she knows sanders would not return the favor, it looks one-sided and it makes both of them look bad. and it creates an opportunity for somebody else. it will be less likely than what we saw in 2008 with clinton and obama when they went negative on each other. host: bill in taylor, michigan. had. caller: hello. i would like to ask your guest about her comment on delegates for clinton's. i am wondering how hillary clinton walks up delegates before public vote? also, i heard that she gets her political army by getting jobs in thefigure jobs government and i will make sure to comment on that.
to. i'm not quite clear what the caller was talking about. as far as the first part with the delegates shirts. we could see a different verse of this on the republican side given how large the field is this time around. when the contest is closed, part of running in the primary, the whole reason in the and of running in the primary is collecting support from delegates. these are party activities and party primaries on state ballots. the number of delegates to collect in iowa and new hampshire is not that large compared to other states because they hold a lot of weight and can get candidates a lot of momentum for the campaigns for the next several weeks. if they win one of these contests. the delicate system is quite complicated, especially on the democratic side. you think superdelegates who are elected officials and can announce their support by the way. recently, the democrats wanted to get down to it, they could and they have not done this for
years, but there could be a floor fight and that is when you get into delicate counts. it is a complicated system and the kind of defies the laws of political map sometimes. host: shira center, roger simon of "politico" put out a piece -- could hillary read iowa and new hampshire, you bet. if you think that happens, and it does, is there a path forward even that she loses the two states? guest: anything can happen. it is possible she could come in second in the two states, she could see that happen. this is why people talk about the south carolina firewall mi -- anden's candidacy is why joe biden's candidacy is so damaging because he has that support in south carolina and for hillary clinton, south carolina is a stronghold in part because the democratic primary includes a happy percentage of
minority voters who have factor in the past. she has a lot more support along minority voters in the democratic party than bernie sanders does. talk about the firewall, that is what they are referring to. if joe biden gets into the race, that completely -- back at erase that by law for hillary clinton and make a pass the nomination much more difficult. host: here is alan from new york. democrat line. caller: thank you. i have not heard any series discussions in the primaries about the effectiveness of voting processes to eliminate the phenomenon of very extreme candidates gaining the appearance of majority support because those who expect the moderate point of view are splitting their votes many ways. this happened in the way in the way about extremism about racism or genders in the 2008 race when you had only one black candidate
in iowa, barack obama, only one woman candidate, and all the male candidates or the white candidates were splitting the votes many ways and each of those people were benefited by the fact that they were one-of-a-kind. not trump's one-of-a-kind and being very extreme and moderates are splitting their votes and we are getting the appearance that he is in the lead when in fact, the moderate point of view is not the majority. that would come out if we had ranked voting. why do we not talk about that? do not see it's going to a system of rank order voting but i think the caller mexico point which is that trump may be in the lead with 24%, but in a lot of the contest and that iowa caucuses or new hampshire primary, 24% is often what the loser gets. it is just by virtue of the large republican field and devote to being splintered that the front runner has something in the mid-20%, but assuming the field is maybe half the size it
is now on the republican side come caucus day and i think it could be a stretch, half the size, the winner of the iowa caucus could easily win with the upper teens, and a small percentage of the vote host:. read in union, washington. republican line. caller: i would like to ask your democratic guest the question but wanted to make a quick statement about bernie sanders. i think the only reason bernie sanders is socialist and not laughed off the stage is because he is promoting the issue of fair trade. i think that is the number one issue for americans, no matter who the candidate is on both sides of the aisle, it is the trade laws encrypting everything and will the country. i would also like to state i watch fox more than anything else because it is the lesser of evils. since fox's conception, all of the other liberal stations of broadcast has gone down and fox
has gone up. fox's viewership is all of the rest -- is more of the rest combined. to be objective, since donald trump, who i would like to see as president who is running, i would like to see how fox is. their management is remote in jeb bush and they just talked down donald trump. they are doing is laughing at donald trump. that shows just how [indiscernible] fox has become. are any of the candidates talking about the $96 trillion or $95 trillion of unfunded liability the country has? and especially the $57 trillion of that that is just government workers pension liability? thank you. guest: first of all, i do not need to correct your guest, but i'm a journalist. reducing republicans talk about the economy. as i mentioned earlier, republicans on the trail, especially new hampshire, have focused on immigration and
foreign policy in this cycle. when you look at polls and issues about republicans caring about, the economy, which i think includes the national debt, usually ranks among the top three. host: ira, you are next. hower: my comment is on [indiscernible] effects of the campaign itself. who were inens defense of the bill being passed, did not really realize that it came around to be voters and voting for who we like to the campaigns which is super pac and it would supersede our votes. host: i think you'll have to clarify. i do not know if the audience understands. can you clarify? caller: well, did the cuts in bills, the bill which were
passed where they voted for the amount on general donation that pac's,e given for super now once we voted that though to be passed, no one really seemed to realize that it would come back to be a biter upon the voters who would happen natural or the open say about their own vote. how we would be bona fide under that umbrella. host: that is ira from florida. do you want to take any of that? guest: let's talk about the citizens united court case that opened the door for basically unlimited super pac spending. ofare seeing the effects that on this election. there are a lot of candidates in the race right now who i doubt would be able to continue to me, continueceeds
to operate their campaigns right now if it were not for the backups of the super pac's that could raise his unlimited funds and keep their ads on television. between now and february are starting soon through february. we are seeing this. a lot of candidates who would have been forced to drop out because they could not raise the money to keep the campaign going, they will be able to keep they're superas pac can keep spending. we saw a little bit of this happened in 2012 with new green -- with newt gingrich and his financial backing, but i think we will see that on a different scale this time around. host: from florida, john on the democrat line. good morning. caller: good morning. before i start, the republican party wants to go to war and they are against immigration and jobs because [indiscernible] and that is a fact. sanders, i was a republican but now i am a democrat. i am for bernie sanders.
he was a socialist, too, and got social security for everybody. he was elected three times and died in his fourth term. the republicans have not got one thing for american people. if they vote against, republicans are being called out. song by king'sa men that tells all about the lies that the republicans have been telling and hiding behind god's words. they are hiding behind it because they are antichrist and hypocrites and they have been called out. i think bernie sanders is a true christian who wants to stick up for the people like it says in the bible. people, if you read your bible, if you are a real christian as a democrat, not their publican party hides behind god all the time. host: thank you. shira center? not quite sure how to
respond to that one. can we move to the next caller? host: ken from tallahassee, florida. republican line. ken from tallahassee? let's move on to doug. doug from florida. democrat line. good morning. caller: good morning. how are you all? host: fine, thank you. go ahead. caller: i want to know how ted cruz is running for president seeing as he was born in canada. i looked all this up on the internet and stuff. the things is a natural born citizen. if you are born out of the country, both parents had to be american. his dad is cuban. how does that work? host: shira center? on a: i think ted cruz was u.s. army base may be in canada? law, when thehat
founders envisioned it, was to ensure americans did not have a royal king does their ruler. i do not think that it's really a risk in this election cycle. i would be surprised, ted cruz is a nominee and somebody will probably see figure this out, but i do not see this as an impediment to ted cruz's path to the nomination or if he gets that far to the white house. host: one more call from will in detroit, michigan. caller: hello. i have two questions for your journalist. two questions that i hope she can answer. i have been following this or 50 years -- for 50 years and have traveled all over the country trying to learn. one thing i have gotten is that everyone of these presidential elections, there is a certain amount of substantial amounts of the election comes down to are you voting for the party that was in office or are you voting against? even though you cannot run for
reelection, you still vote for the party in power to continue for you vote against the power in party to discontinue and i want to ask your journalist, how much does she see that as a factor in this election? and then i have another question about donald trump. because it is so weird that some the candidates, you look at trump as what you had with 24%, but you could also look at it as 24% of the people are voting for him and that means 76% of the people are voting against him. host: we will elect our guest respond. guest: share. the second question first. yes, this is a problem for donald trump. if you dig into polling numbers in the early states and nationally, there is a certain number of people in the republican primary and an even larger number in the general election who will not vote for donald trump or show up to the poll. they will stay far away. yes, this is a problem for donald trump going forward, more
so if he does get a lot of momentum by early or in early state after that. again, right now, the yield is so large that he could win that i will caucasus new hampshire primary with a relatively small percentage of the vote. to your first question about party 50 in the white house. you mentioned you have been following this for the past 50 years, so you know americans usually are ready for new party after they have past eight years from the president of the other party. i think you have to look at the economy as well. positionmy is in a that is strong, that often trumps the fatigue americans have over the current occupant. host: before we let you go, paint a picture of what to expect in new hampshire on both sides, republican and democrat, over the next two weeks as far as intensity and things along that nature. guest: it is going to be very busy. as busy ast quite be
august, but campaigns will keep up and sustain the president -- especially on the republican side, congress will be back in washington, d.c. and working over the next month, but we still expect anywhere from five to seven candidate visits every week to the granite state, so it will be busy. we are also watching not only for the second republican debate on september 16, but the first democratic debate in october. those will be interesting. neither are in new hampshire but i'm sure a lot of new hampshire voters will watch closely. host: shira center is with "the boston globe," and she is covering 2016. thank you. guest: thank you. host: she painted the picture of new hampshire, let's get a picture of iowa. jason nobles joining us on the phone from "des moines register ." he their politics reporter. host: let's start on the republican side. who is leading?
guest: donald trump was leading in the last "des moines register " bloomberg iowa poll. just a few points ahead of ben carson. why donald trump and ben carson on number one and what is happening as far as their state is concerned to make that happen? guest: it looks like here in iowa, and across the country, there is a real anti-politician sentiment out there. you have donald trump and ben carson, two guys are never been elected, carly fiorina, former ,eo is pulling pretty highly and there is a sense that the republicans want someone different. someone who is not part of washington or washington establishments. we saw it -- we thought that would mean maybe a governor, someone like scott walker or former florida governor jeb bush might have an opening, but then typically is so strong that it looks like those guys are not
even registering at this point. the other thing with donald trump is at this point, he really looks like he is trying support from across the republican spectrum. whatr poll, we asked about kind of segment of the party to you place yourselves in? it was business establishment minded republicans, as well as socialistrs and people are saying that donald trump was their guy. he has quite appeal in iowa right now. host: what kind of operation does he have on the ground? guest: a pretty strong one. he has hired advisers who have track records.s the guy running his campaign right now worked for rick santorum in 2012 who won the caucuses with the grassroots campaign. from the outside, it looks like he is putting in the organizational work you have to do to be successful in iowa. host: aside from mr. trump and
mr. carson, word to other candidates fall? -- where do other candidates fall? guest: after that, it is a jumble. you have 17 candidates. trump is pulling around 24, ben carson around 18% and you have amount ofve candidates below that. 50% and below. it is hard to discern that in a field that day. where do they stand. ist: now that the summer over, will we see continued visits by the candidates and to what intensity? guest: absolutely. the summer is a late summer and it is really busy times. iowa state have that fair in august which is a huge opportunity for candidates. i do anticipate that in september into october, we will see the lower volume on the candidate visits. both 17 candidates all needing to introduce themselves and kind
of praise their name id and get known to people in i will, they will definitely be here on a regular basis. host: turning to the democratic side, what does pulling tell us about who is leading? guest: "des moines register that same" bloomberg poll had -- that same "des moines register" bloomberg poll had clinton leading. this was a shift from the last time we pulled clinton's numbers that have dropped about 20% and it has been bernie sanders moving up and becoming a stronger challenger to her. host: what does that drop suggest of why it is happening and why mr. sanders is seeing an increase? puttinganders has been on a strong iowa campaign. he is really talking to the liberal base of the party. he has taken this populous tone and he is positioned himself as the candidate for liberals. we poll on people who are likely caucusesd in the iowa
as with any primary or caucus, that is the base of the party and probably tend to be more liberal than the democratic party overall and the larger electorate, most people like what they are hearing from bernie sanders. we did ask a question in the poll that was really interesting whether people who supported bernie sanders supported him because of his ideas or because they were not satisfied or had concerns on hillary clinton? saidf sanders supporters they were supporting sanders because they liked his ideas and they liked his issues and not as host: a protest the hillary clinton. mr. noble, there was a recent "new york times" story about -- about visiting 99 counties in iowa and they say it doesn't get as far as it used to. you agree with that? i will is an organizational state.
you have to organize, get out and meet people on a one-on-one basis. that is just the structure of it requires that. i still think there is no better way to do that than to get out and meet people in every corner of the state. to go toean you have adams county, population 3600 and have an event with five people? probably not. i think because of the weather caucuses are structured, there is a bio in getting across the whole state. the phone'sg us on jason noble. a politics reporter from "des moines register" talking about the iowa caucus. thank you. host: we will turn our attention to congress back from the summer break and iran is the topic of discussion as well as the potential government shutdown. joining us is steven dennis from is coming," and that up next as "washington journal" continues. ♪
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that it's something he has been successful at in his presidency. basically, the only time something he really did not want at his desk to appear with the keystone pipeline earlier this year. it looks like it is dicey what they will get down and if they get that 41st vote. more importantly, there is also an effort by the white house to show support going into next year. they want to have as much political support for this deal heading into the next election as possible. they are trying to get all the democrats lined up so they can vetoactually kill any overwriting the house. they have been pretty successful over the august break. there have been very few defections. there has only been three defections in the senate among democrats. there have been more defections in the house and people like w washington schwartz who was on the fence, democratic national chairwoman, she was very much on andfence for all of august
she has come not to support the deal. that is a big boost and it could avoid an ugly fight at the top of the democratic party. host: who are they looking at now to get that 41 number? guest: there is a small universe of people. the names do not really pop to the top of my head right now, but there are people like joe manchin, who has said he will not filibuster but he sort of sounds like he is leading toward the deal. they're going to probably need somebody like a joe manchin to change their mind to get to that 41. say, ok, well, we will filibuster as well. are down to about four votes or five votes to determine that. host: on the house sat, there is something called the resolution of disapproval. could you expect what that is? guest: this is a procedure that allows people to vote against something and it ends up happening still. you have a divided government,
republicans want to vote against something and the white house is fine with them doing that because they can be tailored. it is a resolution of disapproval and it needs a simple majority that goes over to the senate, you need 60 votes to get the president's desk and he can veto it. a lot of republicans and scholars on the right are upset with this procedure. they think it is basically about politicians avoiding playing and a look at the constitutions that say treaties need to be approved by two thirds of the senate. well, this deal will would get close to 67. what ends up happening is the white house says it is not a treaty even though it kind of looks and talks like a duck, it kind of its and talks like a treaty in many respects. this is everybody who gets the cast the way they want and the president gets the policy he wants an end of being an issue for the presidential election. host: we are talking about congress back this weekend and issues they have to take up. (202)-784-8000 for democrats. (202)-784-8001 for republicans.
(202)-748-8002 for independence. iran deal, walk us through a timeline of what to expect in the next the weeks. guest: the house will vote this week on iran deal and the senate is keen up their debate this well -- as well. debate asup their well. they want to get that done as soon as possible because they'll have a few weeks to keep the government open. they have a lot they want to do and there are a lot of deadlines coming up in the next few weeks, next few months. understands that this is not going to be successful. they want to have their show, they want to make their case to the public, and it is really a political arguments now for the presidential election more than anything else. everybody knows that this is going to ultimately still be going forward, so it is about politics right now. you have your one week show or maybe a little bit more than that and then you move on
quickly to other things. the main thing being keeping the government open, the lights on. host: what happens then? guest: i think you will see a -- about a we have seen many times in the past which is leadership in both chambers. they do not want to shut down. mitch mcconnell has pledged no shutdowns on his watch, and that means you cannot have writers that the president would veto. that means planned parenthood, there are a lot of conservatives who want to be funded in the president said he would veto it if you attach that to a bill keeping the government open. the government would shut down. there are other writers, epa writers, climate change writers, there are a lot of things that republicans would like to get signed into law and the president is not going to sign them. he has threatened to veto. that is the debate where the leadership says, let's have as clean as possible and they
should to keep the government open for the next two months while we negotiate with the president, maybe three months, and that is another issue. how long this cr is going to be. is it going to be just until halloween, which is what some democrats might want. is it going to be and so thanks giving? oracle it had -- is it going to be into thanksgiving or head into december? you have obvious other things that expire, a highway bill that expires at the end of october. the highway bill is very interesting because you need tens of billions of dollars to keep the highway construction gaset funded because the tax brings in less and less money every year and people have better mile per gallon cars and they need to find some money for that. money find for that is money cannot find for the rest of the budget that is over here, the domestic spending, in particular, where the president wants to spend international $37 billion this year and the republican budget says zero, so
that is what the big battle is over. billion dollars for domestic spending. the president has threatened that he will not sign a bill that does not provide more spending. i could also shut the government down. insaid, look, whether it be october, november, december, i am vetoing this bill that will cap for my budget. he is not facing reelection, he could potentially do that and that would be a gut check for democrats. are they prepared to shut down the government for more spending? can they really make that political argument? host: the republican leaders in the house and senate did not want a shutdown. what do they face as far as republicans in their bodies? will havehink you tense meetings in hc five, the big room and the basement of the capital for house republicans meet, where they discuss and hatch out, in private, what their strategy is going to be. i would not be surprised if their first attempt to keep the
government open actually does you a lot of things that conservatives want, things like the funding -- defunding planned parenthood, defunding the immigration orders, maybe something on obamacare? if it gets over to the senate, mitch mcconnell can strip all of that out, send it back to the -- youand then you have have bipartisan support in the house. that is what has happened a number of times in the past several years, where nancy pelosi and house democrats have opened -- have openly provided the votes to keep the government enough republican support on top of that. i would not be surprised to see something like that happen. you will have people like ted cruz, who was running for in the fulloing ok color people like rand paul who was not doing so well in the polls, marco rubio, etc. to get their chance spotlight. people -- this is their chance to maybe make an impact and move
in the polls and they are competing against donald trump who will supposedly be here at arow with ted cruz rally. this is maybe there one big chance to have some spotlight returned to them, return to washington. if you look at the polls, the senators running for president, other than bernie sanders, are not doing so hot. combined, they are about 50%, 70% of the vote which is not great. this is a chance to show core conservative voters, hey, i am a man of principle and i will not fund planned parenthood. i will take on the president on immigration, etc. but the qb leaders do not want any part of that, so that will be interesting to see if there will be more fights on the floor between ted cruz and mitch mcconnell. host: (202)-784-8000 for democrats. (202)-784-8001 for republicans. for independents, (202)-748-8002 . steven dennis. i have marianne from new york. you are first. caller: good morning.
thank you for taking my call. -- inow, i have always think actually mr. reagan, i think that was the last one i ever voted for because i just cannot see anything within the republican party or the democrat party. anyway, what i cannot understand is why the republicans keep saying that they are being the president. i do not back the president, i have not backed the president in .nything he has said but the fact is, if they would try to defend themselves in court and they played the same role as a are playing now in , if they were being charged with something, they
sure would be locked up because they not defending themselves. they have no recourse to the american people on what is going on or demanding that the president follow protocol as far as the constitution. host: we will let our guest respond. guest: i think what you are goneg is the president has alone. faced time and time again the republican congress that did not pass anything on immigration. a republican congress that was not going to give him what he wanted on the environment or on whole hostsions or a of things. he cannot get a paid sick leave to congress, so yesterday, he mandates paid sick leave for federal contractors. you are seeing that much more aggressively this second term.
much more aggressively, and the reason that he is not facing and -- and the reason is he is not facing reelection. he does not have to worry about, ok, will this affect my votes in iowa or virginia? he is just do it and doing it much more this year than any other year. whether it be the immigration orders, whether it be the epa, whether it be a whole host of things, a lot of social issues, transgender, soldiers in the .ilitary you are seeing it again and again and again. the republicans, their recourse is the budget, but if you will not risk a shutdown, you cannot fight these things on the budget, so there are other recourse is to go to court and that is what is happening. you are seeing a lawsuit over the immigration order. that is currently moving its way through the courts and could end up in the supreme court. you are seeing a similar fight about to happen over at the epa
carbon emission role. that will go to court. as soon as the white house of thees regulations federal register. people cannot wait to get to the courthouse. there are a number of other things going to court, including theobamacare changes that president has made to his own legislation without going to congress. that is going to be something that is probably going to be front and center, already has been in some of the republican debate with republicans calling will be on -- that the ballot next year. do you want all these executive orders to continue? do you want carbon emissions? some of the republicans would not -- how do you want immigration law enforced? these will be huge issues. it's also placed into the whole supreme court fight.
a lot of these executive actions are going to go to the supreme court, they will have 5-4 decisions one way or the other part of a lot of old supreme court justices -- that is also on the ballot. from long beach, california. bob on the republican line. all this iran deal of a nuclear deal -- i will put a quote in. israel wanted to knock out those nuclear facilities a couple years back. obama stopped it. the reason he said was the middle east would hate israel for it. he has hated israel since they won. -- day one. obama said he will not negotiate with terrorists. what is he doing right now?
negotiating with a terrorist country. the last three presidents we've had our boldfaced liars. donald trump says he walks the walk, he does the talk -- he will straighten this country out. he may not be a politician, but that is our problem, having politicians in office. they say one thing and then do another. we did a smart man, a businessman like trump to get this united states great again. i would love to talk about both of those issues. a lot of people across the country have similar thoughts about donald trump. in person whenr i talk to people outside of the washington bubble come a lot about donald trump is that he is not a politician. that's having a huge appeal in
the polls. the iowa polls, the leading candidates are not politicians. there is a huge thirst for people who are not part of the washington establishment. that is definitely resonating. it will be interesting to see if that carries through. through the primaries, through all these debates, through the nominating convention, etc. as far as the iran deal, the president was clear when he was running for president that he would negotiate with iran's leaders and with her enemies. -- our enemies. that was part of his platform. as far as whether it is a good deal or not, that is what the debate is about. the president's argument against a military strike against iran right now, one of the arguments is you could go in and destroy some of these nuclear facilities
very easily. that is not a long-term solution. .ou can rebuild you cannot take the knowledge out of the brains of the thousands of iranians working on these facilities. you can build the next facility deeper and maybe not have inspectors on the ground. which the deal does provide access to all these facilities. that is part of the debate here. if you go in militarily, you wipe out the facilities, they can come back again. it's not like previous facilities have not been bob. bombing ofs been previous facilities. it doesn't mean you can't go back and rebuild. oil, money,lot of they have been able to build on these facilities even with sanctions. what is a long-term solution?
that is one of the big arguments -- it is not a permanent reduction. they have to reduce their material by 90% to the point where it cannot create one ball. that does not last 15 years now. they can potentially build as much as they want. there will be an incentive not to. they will have all this economic openings, they potentially risk that if they go back to creating the steps for having nuclear weapons. host: a viewer from twitter -- guest: this shutdown could be different from the last one. house,ts and the white for the first time are growing
the gauntlet down on spending. they filibustered all the republican spending bills this year. the argument was we will have to have a budget deal, we have to agree to more spending on the domestic side. that is something republicans could have highlighted immediately controversy, but they had gone in these other directions. the republican problem is they have not been willing to sit down with democrats and have a discussion. democrats have press availability saying sit down and talk with us, let's hash it out. the republicans don't show up for that negotiation. at some point, that negotiation will have to happen. mitch mcconnell has knowledge it will happen. we still don't know who will be in the room. when it will happen.
october,appen now, thanksgiving, over christmas? all the things have the complications for the rest of , when soldiers will get a pay raise, what benefits will look like for federal workers. they all come down to that appropriations bill. there's a lot of other things hitchhiking -- if you care about marijuana policy, that will show up in the appropriations bill. are we going to keep a ban on raiding medical marijuana facilities? that will be in this years on the this bill. mnibus bill. you read up about it and watch c-span, you will catch up on these. host: from north dakota, this is
john. caller: thank you for c-span. goes, is this iran deal don't know what the republicans are thinking trying to block this. stop now, it's going to them from building a nuclear bomb for at least 10 years. 15 -- after that, we will have to negotiate. i don't know why we keep wanting to go to war and bomb these middle eastern countries. that's how we came up with isis. once we bomb somebody and killed their people, they will have a resentment towards us. every time we kill somebody, we make three new terrorists. as far as the president obama, i
think he is doing a good a job as he possibly can with this republican congress. the congress -- the republicans have no plans, no idea what to do. they are just locking everything obama wants. deal, i dohe iran think the argument against this argument thet republicans keep putting forward is that iran is going to get a lot of money. with money comes power and influence. money you can give to other enemies of the united states and israel, terrorist groups, etc. they can also be up their own internal defenses. the white house argument is that , with inspectors on the ground it in 10 years iran decides to
build a nuclear weapon, we decide to go in militarily and taken out, we will have a roadmap. able to take out these facilities. , whatgument against that is iran doing right now? going to russia and buying air defense systems. top-of-the-line as 300 antiaircraft missiles. they will have 10 or 15 years to build up their air defenses. essentially a more difficult target. there are arguments to make against this deal and say we could have had a better deal, we could have had a 25 or 35 year deal. is,white house argument look who we are negotiating with. the fact that people who chant death to america all the time actually reached a deal that will have interest of
inspections and other wasrictions on them, that not clear that that was ever going to happen. outead of trying to break and build a nuclear weapon. but they did. even that piece of the deal is still kind of up in the air. iran might end up voting on this deal -- if the deal falls apart, it might fall apart in iran. host: there are two stories thinking you look at this is taking a look at this. politico writes this -- could you add onto that? guest: mark meadows filed this ended that would have
speaker boehner's speakership. againe talked to meadows and other conservative house beenlicans who have chafing at john boehner's willingness to deal with the white house for years. there is some expectation that there will be some kind of vote at some point. is, boehner might need some democratic modes to keep his speakership. democrats would rather have speaker boehner then some alternatives. at least with speaker boehner, they know that he will probably cut a deal that keeps the government open, etc. you can see something like that happen, whether planned parenthood is the thing that gets him in more hot water or if
it ends up being this kabuki like i mentioned where the house -- mitch mcconnell ends up being the bogeyman and boehner says i did what i could. we will see of that ends up happening. the thing with boehner, we still don't know for sure if you sticking around for another term. if this is his last -- if he is looking at this as his last term in office, maybe he feels a little bit more leeway to be more aggressive. he probably looks at the politics of a long shutdown, not a short shutdown, but a long shutdown as damaging to his party. the lastt like shutdown.
wherecould be a situation he has to fall on his sword, save the party from itself and clear the decks for the presidential election host:. stephen dennis joining us, talking about congress. david in cincinnati, ohio. thank you for waiting. what happens to social security at the government shuts down? guest: i have an answer for you. your checks will still show up. as an security is funded entitlement program. social affected are security offices. you have a question, you want to sign up, that will be with more difficult. -- much more difficult. it will not be an issue if you have a check, the check will still show up.
that doesn't mean if you are having an issue, you are kind to go to an office, try to have some complicated thing sorted out -- that is where it bumps into problems. the good thing about a government shutdown is they don't tend to last that long. usually lawmakers are getting phone calls -- last time, 18 days. that is not going to affect a lot of things. a lot of checks can be cut. it is more of an issue for things like national parks. suddenly, they are closed. your vacation just got ruined. if you need a visa or something that only the government can provide, you are out of luck. if it lasted a long time, you could start seeing states with delayed funding. there would be shortfalls come all kinds of problems if it
lasted for month after month. host: dawn from west virginia. republican line. dennis, i'm sitting here thinking about this iran deal with congress and the obama administration. i have family members involved in the testing of nuclear weapons, my father being one of them in 1950. when they hear of this regime in , they had chanted death to america for years. they proclaim to be children of god but see this death call it -- where does the trust come from in congress to deal with ?hese people the long-range effectiveness is a serious situation.
that is the question that needs to be asked. guest: that is a good question. that is what members of congress are wrestling with. i have not heard a single member of congress or anybody at the white house raise their hand and say i trust iran. notpresident says this is an agreement about trust, it's about verification. deal, theport the argument is you want a situation built all these centrifuges, they've built -- do youd facilities want a situation where we have no inspectors there? you want a situation where they could break out and build a weapon in a matter of months because they already have the material?
upy would just need to ramp to build a bomb. or, do you want to have thousands of inspectors heading with a commitment to reduce their material by 98%? , when there is of thet again -- one things the white house has been successful when it comes to members of congress, people like the energy secretary and a nuclear scientist that has written papers on nuclear , he helpedon negotiate the deal and he points to all the different pathways they would have to a weapon, orther it be plutonium uranium mines, there would be
inspectors there. reprocessing facility, inspectors there. to the extent that there is a trust, that gap is filled. people come in and say trust me, don't trust them. i don't trust them, that's why i negotiated this deal the way i did. i pointed to another argument i have seen, the north korea agreement. there is an agreement with north korea, we give the money and oil and they agreed not to build a new nuclear weapons and they violated the agreement and they have nuclear weapons today. the white house says that agreement was terrible, it was five or six pages long, only don't with plutonium -- dealt with plutonium. we learn from it. , 100 pages, lots more inspections.
you trust we will catch them. it is more likely we will catch them now with inspectors on the ground. host: steven dennis is with cq roll call. someone off twitter asks -- is that on the agenda? guest: the transpacific partnership, they still have to get the deal with all the other countries. we wrote about a fascinating issue this past week, tobacco. mitch mcconnell is the senate majority leader, supports the transpacific partnership. he has lots of tobacco farms in kentucky. he wrote a letter saying it's -- settle for this deal essential for the still come essential for my farmers to have the same access to exports and
protections that all the other exports have. there is an effort by opponents regulate tobacco. that is a tough decision here for the white house. if they go against anti-cigarette exploiting constituencies and mitch go against- if they mitch mcconnell, it's not clear they can pass it in congress. that is one issue of many issues. every member of congress has their own export industry. they want to have some protection for these exports to asia. it did not pass by a huge number of votes. you lose one wing or another wing and suddenly, it is december and you are try to present this thing and you are having a hard time passing it. it is far from being a slamdunk.
they did pass the fast-track authority. 50 votes and the vice president and the senate. , you canse some people still pass this thing. it is something the democratic party is up in arms about. sanders fanning the flames of that. now that he is up a lot, his poll numbers have exploded and hillary clinton's have been imploding, i think that could cause democrats wavering on this to waiver even more. do they really want to capsize the boat in december? host: joe in new orleans on the democrat line. caller: good morning. is aalling because there statement about population in
the united states. they always say the president does not cooperate with -- or does not try to get along with republicans in congress. this is not true. i can remember when he first came in office, he went and had a meeting with republicans, most of which were in that first meeting with republicans who said they would not cooperate with anything the president did. that is a falsehood that he has not tried to cooperate or reach out to the republicans. this from the beginning, even before he took the oath of office, that they were not going to cooperate with him. after he got in office and some of the programs that he was for, of course, they were against. that made them angry.
you know what the problem is with congress now, in my opinion? they are just angry that a big done man is getting things and has outsmarted them in so many areas of government. doing things for the people of the united states. courtack to the supreme that allowed money to be interjected into our political system in our elections. do you remember at the state of the union when the president said that was going to be a problem? money influencing the candidates and their platforms? that has come true. whether younk
believe it is race or not, there has been a tendency in for when you have divided government for the past decade or so -- i remember nancy ,elosi leading the caucus leading her party to line up against any changes in social security. that was a political winner. made a political decision in those first days when there was a stimulus package not negotiate on it. to line up against it. could they have sat down and something? may be. there were some republicans in the senate who did not negotiate. when you are the party out of power at that point and you are deep in the minority, there is political advantage to being a
party of no. you end up with a reaction to something majority party does. whether you think it is race or not, there are other reasons. plenty of other reasons that have to do with philosophical differences. the role of government, whether government should regulate coal plants. mitch mcconnell says no. you would expect someone from where a lot of jobs are associated with coal to oppose that. it would be more of his prize if he wanted a cap and trade bill. -- more of a surprise. host: scott in richmond, virginia. caller: thank you for taking my call. i just have a statement.
congress is coming back this week. that is nothing to cheer about at all. bbed aave already been du do-nothing congress. you look at the people in congress running to be president , why would we want them? president? in to be that are one of the president's, that is no different. they are being bought by the rich and powerful. democrat, but i am thinking more and more about donald trump. is.ays it like it my friends used to call that tough love instead of the meeting it. it is tough love that he is giving us. you might not like all the things he says, but at least he
is not being bought and paid for . we mentioned trumps appealable for it does cross party lines. appeal before. you can find it in congressional approval ratings, which are in the low teens, sometimes below that. you are seeing that in the presidential candidates -- there is a lot of grassroots anger. they were promised if you vote for us and we get the majority, we will change all these things and rollback obamacare and rain in the president and those things have happened. nowe's a lot of anger right
in the republican base. polls were at the the one who is doing the best -- ted cruz is the one who has stood on the floor of the senate sin sing the majority leader lied to him. he has been against everything mitch mcconnell has been doing this year. if ted cruz was the majority leader, we would have already had a few shutouts this year on nominations.rity, ted cruz can say i'm not part of that. i've been calling these people out for years. anotherstep into me as
politician, but he is a percent in the polls. -- 8% in the polls. he doesn't have that name recognition of donald trump. it donald trump implodes at some , ted cruz could potentially be somebody who benefits from that. people like rand paul, he has been hammered in the polls. 0%-1% andaham with has not been doing so hot, either. it's not like he is breaking out. it will be interesting to see how all these people react to the trump phenomenon. we have seen it on the campaign trail.
now, we get to see congress adjust to it. donald trump has been calling them out. does that affect the planned parenthood debate mother shut -- debate, the shutdown? jeff sessions showed up at an alabama rally and donald trump took his immigration plan and his plan. it will be interesting to see if other members of congress start -- the members tend to reflect the public at some point. we have seen a huge moment this movement to trump -- that would hurt his broad appeal. he is not a politician.
bought and paid for issue is something that is helping bernie sanders. bernie sanders is not somebody who left the administration and started making $200,000 speeches. and complained about being that broke. he is not a rich man. he is one of the poorest members of congress. worth in the range of $100,000-$200,000 after a long time in congress. that has appeal for him, too. host: thank you for your time. we will continue our conversation, taking a look at your top priority for congress. their radial, the potential shutdown. -- the iran deal, the potential shutdown. 202-748-8000 for democrats. 202-748-8001 for republicans.
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he was a person -- there was a pleasure he felt when he kill people. this is something when you are normal, if you don't have this aspect of your personality, it is difficult to grasp. q&a.nday night on c-span's "washington journal" continues. host: congress needs to debate several things. we want to find out from you, your top priority for congress. for democrats. 202-748-8001 for republicans. .02-748-8002 for independents you can post to our social media sites or send us an e-mail.
let's start off in gaithersburg, maryland on her independent line. this is rayford. -- on our independent line. caller: my top priority for congress is i really wish these guys would get together and do something about our crumbling infrastructure. we have bridges and roads that he can be taken care of -- need to be taken care of. our airports are disgraceful. can i also make a comment based on the last guest you just had on? i would like to issue this challenge to him and everyone saying the opposition to president obama was not based on race. the entire republican party by eitherirtherism
from leesburg, virginia, here is some have appeared good morning. -- here is samantha. good morning. in washington, d.c. honor democrats line -- on our democrats line. caller: one quick note in december, the president will hear about climate negotiations. there are two measures that need to be extended as tax extensions for businesses, business eitc.ent -- one is the this tax credit is the second most important, most effective
provision in the tax code to take people out of poverty. social security is the first program. the earned income tax credit is the second. its provisions are due to expire in 2016. right now, there is no plan to extend it to make these tax provisions permanent. that is number one. related to that is the ctc, child tax credit. one program that lets children out of poverty. people, the third-largest, most effective program to pull people of
poverty. ctcther, the itc and the pull 10.1 million people out of poverty. they are due to expire at the end of 2016. it's incumbent, even though it's we need to year -- have congress focus in on this on the second and third most effective anti-poverty programs in the country and make their provisions permanent. top priority for congress, here is roger from oklahoma. . independent line. caller: america should vote through the cell phones and the television and we would make congress -- eliminate these in
intermediaries. host: steve from louisville, kentucky. public alike. that's republican line. disabled'm a totally man. theep hearing in may 2016 social security disability is supposed to run out of money. what is congress was to do about this?- going to do about host: how would it affect you personally? caller: i would not have any income coming in. host: democrats line. sheila up next in north dakota. you are on. -- i'm i'm sheila from calling about these gentlemen that run the reservations. they should be charged for
embezzling and theft. congress should start charging these counseling for embezzling and putting them in prison where they belong. the people that work for the noting -- instead of working, driving around -- in victor, west virginia. democrats line. .aller: this is james say a personns should not have to belong to a union if they don't want to. that does not mean you have to join a union. you get a closed shop, you will have your contract between the
company and the union and that is a hard thing to get. i don't know of anybody that's -- the right to work law maybe a few in the coal mines. any of the packers and stuff does not have to belong to the union if you don't want to belong. host: james and west virginia. a couple stories about the refugee crisis in syria. the possible reaction from the white house on this issue. -- the president must establish the beforerefugee ceiling
raymond up next from tennessee. democrats line. caller: yes, sir. immigration -- it makes sense to me to offer mexico the opportunity to be part of the united states. let them make a choice to be part of the country and then the federal laws, break it up in it will be good for the united states and mexico. our economy would flourish in some like that would happen. -- did something like that would happen. host: willian in cape coral, florida. the morning.
this good morning. -- good morning. caller: i listen to these commercials about this iran deal and i put it in the same category with the keystone deal. i've never seen a group of -- this is so many disgusting. that?what do you mean by caller: they had the old people scared half to death. what are you guys going to do when you retire? you don't want to leave the united states. i wish they would take the and get them out of government. there would be no problems. host: what do you think about the iran deal?
caller: we've been screwing their people for how long now? since the 1950's. i've still got the old paperwork and stuff, all the crab that p that when on. people need to shut their mouths and leave people alone. host: brent in nashville, tennessee. go ahead. caller: good morning. i would like to see infrastructure and jobs creation through. ater, we are four years into ten-year drought and we still rely on california as a breadbasket. grow for china, they don't paper the water cleanup.
when hundred million people are unemployed or underemployed -- 100 million people. arele with disabilities 60-90 million people. the jobs bill would include a revisit tatian to their -- revisit tatian to the earth. bill, they kick it down the road for two years before they change the direction of subsidies. work on vegetables, not hyper processed food. put people back to work with the earth. decentralized agriculture. liz on the independent line. michigan. caller: i think money is a big factor with me. i did not vote in the last election because no one running represented me.
person in the democratic party, he is focusing on money and politics. that is crucial. him.eally impressed with did you just learn about him because of his positions on money? caller: i was not familiar with him before. host: tell me a little bit more about your support. why you are looking at him. caller: he thinks there is too getting intoent on office and money influence. feel.k that is the way i it ought to come back to the people voting. are any of the other
candidates talking about the issues as well? caller: i am more impressed with sanders. i was once a democrat. no longer. election. the last sanders, i really impressed with him. website,you go to our we have a series of events he has talked about, including this topic of campaign-finance and changing the campaign-finance. you have a chance to see that and learn more about his positions if you go to our website. caller: i appreciate that. thank you. for more.c-span.org information. harry is up next. illinois is the state.
republican line. caller: without a doubt the library is the iranian nuclear deal. -- without a doubt, the main priority. it is the scariest thing here i'm 66 years old, retired teacher and coach. i listen every day and i'm so afraid of what we are doing here. allowing iran to become a nuclear power, giving them so much for getting nothing and it's all out of fear. fear that we would have to go out o to war and have military action here. the iranians will not recognize anything else. nuclearl lead to buildup in the rest of the middle east. these rich oil companies are not going to stand by and let iran
become the most powerful -- the money they are getting back and everything, the influence, i'm afraid our country is in dire straits. israel is a strong friend of ours. they will be under tremendous pressure. go to the front page of the washington times this morning, a story about donald trump. john ralston said mr. campaign is --eatening more of that story is available in the washington times this morning. we are asking you to share your top priority for congress. .emocrats, 202-748-8000
republicans, 202-748-8001. independents, 202-748-8002. lynwood from roanoke virginia. you keep talking about this iran deal. i'm wondering if people are thinking back to when japan was over here negotiating peace and then they bombed pearl harbor. they won't let any of our --ducts into that country that's what i've been told. what about this iran deal? they keep saying death to america. i think any deal could be worked out.
i don't think the american people know that we spend more money protecting japan than any other country that i know of. we are paying all that stuff and nobody is talking about that. it.n't understand host: a debate on the iran nuclear deal taking place in the house and senate this week. for more information, go to www.c-span.org. you learn about coverage of the debate and the other issues involved. especially where candidates stand on the issue. deborah from virginia. your top priority for congress. and . -- independent line. caller: we seem to be having a assaulted byting police.
[indiscernible] they need to start a new office that is not affiliated with the government. reportsill go over the of abuse by a civilian or police officer on a civilian and find out exactly what happened. maybe we can get a cap on the abuses going on on both sides. itannot do anything about because i will be taken to civil court. there needs to be cameras in schools, offices and doctors offices.
the doctors will assault you and the teachers assault you. i was hit by making aggregator, i've been assaulted by a police officer. all the people i teach my children to run to for help. i cannot trust them. how can i tell my children to trust them? i will never let myself go into a dentist. dentist's office alone. i don't tell my children to run to a police officer. california -- good morning. democrats like. -- democrats like. caller: donald trump had that girl come up on stage and feel
his hair. all i could think of was the monica lewinsky scandal. they went after bill clinton. this girl had the same expression as monica lewinsky which was in the audience with that beret on. i would like to know where the reporters are. we all know donald trump is a womanizer. goes, as this congress they are never going to do anything as long as the republicans hold it, they will never get anything done. host: sharon in pennsylvania. independent line. caller: i have been listening to the people calling about the iranian deal. ourree with them as far as congress and our government accepting money from the
lobbyists to do and passed bills. i believe if we would get rid of the lobby, we would have more honesty. believe -- host: this is something you support? caller: i support it, absolutely. it is the best deal we can get. it will secure the united states and israel. we have to consider that israel has nuclear weapons. i just don't understand it, this is a no-brainer. host: what led you to believe that the deal was a good one? if we don't have this
deal, they can acquire nuclear weapons within 2-3 months. this gives us the opportunity to watch them, to go in there and investigate. i think it will secure peace. the american people have to wake up to this. is nothing against israel. i would be shaking in my boots if i knew my neighbor had nuclear weapons. terry from california. democrats line. caller: hello. congress's concert, i would like a bill passed that they are not allowed to leave congress and become lobbyists. hillary clinton has a right to get as much money as she likes. is rolling and the
attitude is he is a self-made man. yet, they put this woman down for everything. the benghazi deal, her use of a server. she was routed by a lot of intelligent people who could have forewarned that one server was not the way to go. the same with the classified information. where were these people who were saying this information was classified? this who is rendering our safety, these people who change their minds after the fact? about't hear anything carly fiorina and her downfall with her lack of ability to run a corporation. just that she is rising in the polls. i'm getting tired of the press picking, picking, picking and
praising this clown show that donald trump is putting on. when you listen to him carefully, he has nothing much to say about policy. when he does talk and he says i am for keeping the minimum wage because we have to compete with other countries, what is he talking about? seven dollars an hour competing with china? he doesn't say much. his advisers will do the job -- what is he going to do with the people in congress whose constituents put them in for years on end? he has to deal with them. this idea of hiring people to do the job, that is what the president already has in place and look at the mess we are in with the deadlock in congress. in celebrity.d he happens to be the celebrity of