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republican presidential candidate ted cruz announced his run for the right house -- white house. we will take you to live in about 30 minutes at 10:30 and then we will get your reaction immediately after. you can call or join the conversation on the east and facebook page or on twitter. before that, remarks by wisconsin governor scott walker, who spoke at ronald reagan's alma mater on thursday. a man i have honored as a true chuck: good morning. it is a great day to be here, isn't it? my name is chuck erickson. is an honor to be introducing the governor of wisconsin, a man
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i have honored as a true conservative. in his book, governor walker stated that conservatives need to stop playing by the rules set by the left. with creativity and a little innovation, we can define the debate on our terms. the added, "when circumstances provide you with a chance to take big, bold, decisive actions, sees it. -- seize it." and sees it he did -- seize it needed. it is not just talk the talk, he walked the walk. in his first term, he took on union bosses, freeing school district to hire the best features and prioritize spending -- teachers and prioritize spending. the closed a deficit and delivered to billion dollars in tax relief. property taxes in his state or lower today than when he took office. he has overseen the creation of thousands and thousands of new
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jobs and businesses as well as a significant drop in wisconsin's unemployment rate. he will continue to tear down barriers until everyone who wants a job can find a job. despite the tax relief, despite the job creation, and despite saving teachers from layoffs, the big government union bosses were not happy. in 2012 they orchestrated a recall election, but they underestimated scott walker. he became the first governor in american history to win a recall election. it went on to win reelection for a full term in 2014. in case you're are not keeping track, that is three election victories in four years. while accomplishing conservative reforms, as you noted in his book, "and intimidated," -- "unintimidated," is brought about other conservative reforms like stopping funding to planned parenthood. in his second term as governor,
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scott walker continues to deliver results. he sighed right to work legislation, earning praise from conservatives and criticism from president obama. governor walker firmly believes that the conservative principles that work in wisconsin can work in america and he is ready to share his vision with the country. isn't it about time we send somebody to washington, d.c. who actually has experience delivering proven conservative reform? not talking about it, but who understands that it is not about flashy talk or debate but about us, the people. finally, on a more personal level, when he is not traveling or working in wisconsin, you can find this preacher's son and football fan at home with his wife and son, or outright in his harley. -- out riding his harley.
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please welcome the 45th governor of wisconsin, scott walker. [applause] governor walker: thanks, chuck. thanks. thank you. thank you for that great introduction and thanks for coming out. thanks to your rica for hosting us. it is an honor to be here on this stage where ronald reagan found his voice as a student at eureka college. what a remarkable opportunity. some of you know this but earlier this year, my wife who was with me, the first lady of wisconsin, thank you for being
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with me, we celebrated our wedding anniversary right here on february 6 at eureka. she would tell you that i remember the wedding anniversary because it is ronald reagan's birthday. i like to think it is the other way around but either way it really is an honor to be back here at the almanac or of the 40th president -- alma matter of the 40th president of the united states. ronald reagan helped to shape my view of the world. when i think back to his first inaugural address when he stated "we should all remember the federal government did not create the states, the states created the federal government." that is why i work to take power out of washington and send it back to the states across this great country.
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that is true reform. i think about ronald reagan and how during my time, not much different than the age of the students here, ronald reagan helped to rebuild the economy by lowering taxes and getting the federal government out of people's lives. in doing so, those policies brought about one of the longest sustained periods of economic growth in u.s. history. that is why i worked to get the federal government out of our lives and reduce the size. that is growth. ronald reagan rebuilt the military. in turn, helps to stand up for our allies, stand up against our enemies, and without apology for strong american values . sometimes we forget about that but you want about one of the most peaceful times in modern american history. ronald reagan believed in peace through strength. i hope to follow his lead. probably most importantly. ronald reagan was not just a conservative or a republican. he was an eternal optimist and the american people.
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i show that optimism. because you see today, more than ever, we need a leader in this country that cares more about the next generation than just the next election. we need somebody who is willing to go "because you see it is not enough to -- to go victim go bold because as you see -- big and go bold because as you see it is not enough to elect a conservative, you need to elect a reformer. we celebrated our wedding anniversary on the hundred anniversary of ronald reagan's birth. i remember exactly where i was at. it is dangerous to say this in illinois but i was at the super bowl watching the green bay packers. that is another story. i brought with me a cubs fan as well so that is all right. i see a little green and gold over there, thanks. i do have to laugh, a week ago
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more than bringing democrats and republicans together i have a couple both wearing bears search with a sign -- shirts with a sign saying bears fans for walker. we were celebrating our wedding anniversary, celebrating the packers victory, but the day after we returned home and i have the entire cabinet come over for dinner. the reason i did that is that we were about to embark on big reforms. i told the story to the cabinet about how early on, ronald reagan took on some remarkable tasks and that shaped his presidency going forward. specifically i told the story about how early on, about this time in 1981, ronald reagan fired the air traffic controllers.
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the reason i tell that story, it is ironic, a lot of people forget about this. the union had actually endorsed president, then candidate reagan. it was not about the politics. it was clearly about principle. regardless of who you are, you cannot violate the law. the give them warning and after 48 hours, he terminated it. that is a pretty bold move. it was pretty much politically risky at the time because who knew what was going to happen? he did it because it was the right thing to do and that was so important because from that point forward across this country and around the world, people move the president ronald reagan was serious. -- knew the president ronald reagan was serious. he went big and he went bold and
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it worked. it worked. i think about that often. but if you years ago, in 2010, in my state, the voters in my state shows to switch from all democrat to all republican control. a pretty dramatic change. i remember a week after the election i met with the republican majorities and also said to those lawmakers it is put up or shut up time. that was the headline in the paper. the reason i said that is that the voters have sent subject or message, a mandate if you will. i told those folks if we nibble around the edges they will have every right to his room was out. we need to deliver on campaign promises. so we did. we went big and we went bold. not long after that, a whole bunch of protesters came into our state. first, it was just people from wisconsin. eventually along the way there
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were tens of thousands who came in from across the country. in fact, after a while what we started to see were people being bused in by the big union bosses from places like chicago and new york and washington, d.c. you see, they were trying to intimidate us. we did not back down. they tried to intimidate us that we did not back down. at one point there were more than 100,000 protesters occupied our state capital but we did not back down. they went after me with death threats and we did not back down. they went after my family with threats but we did not back down. they went after a member of the wisconsin supreme court in an election that otherwise would have been inconsequential. we did not back down.
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the doorbuster federal and state court and we did not back down. they went after our state senators and we did not back down. they went after me in a recall election and we did not back down. last year they made me the number one target in america. of all of the elections, we were the number one target. and we did not back down. instead, we fought and we won. we got results, and we did it. we did it without compromising our conservative principles. [applause] governor walker: and what we did was not just about being conservative. it was about common sense. we took our out of the hand of the big government special interests and we put it firmly .into the hands of the hard-working people.
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that is pro-taxpayer. we passed the right to work law that says that people in our state now have the freedom to choose whether they want to be in a labor union or not. that is pro-worker. we fixed a $3.7 billion budget deficit. we did early on so that we could spend time and efforts helping the people, not the government, the people of the state focus on creating more jobs and higher wages. we passed in our budgets $4.7 billion worth of tax relief so that families in our state, so that families in our state could keep more of their hard-earned dollars. if we could do -- [applause] governor walker: if we can do those kinds of common sense conservative reforms in a blue state like wisconsin, imagined, imagine what we can do in washington. washington, think about that. resident reagan once said, we need to drain the swamp and washington, d.c. we need to drain the slot in washington, d.c. sadly, since he has been gone, that swamp has filled back in.
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i got to tell you, people from washington or not the people to fix washington. we need a new leader. we need someone from outside of washington, somebody who is actually gotten things done. when it is leader that will reach have it on washington and once and for all -- wreack avedon washington and once and for all people back in charge of government. [applause] governor walker: that is why i am here. because you see, i am that kind of leader. we have ideas to lead as well. in fact, we have an idea, we have an idea to take an repeal obamacare once and for all and put patients and families back in charge of health care decisions and health care dollars. [applause] governor walker: we thought the day one patient freedom plan. the reason we call it that is
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that on day one i will send that to congress. to get them to act on it which is important, on day one, i will sign an executive order that requires congress, their families, and their staff, who live under the same rule that everyone else in america lives under. [applause] governor walker: you see, they need a little incentive to get the repeal past. remember last year? you a lot in the campaigns about if you had republican majorities in darkness after the 2014 elections they would vote to repeal obama care. alas, i checked, it is after labor day and there is -- the last time i checked it is after labor day and there is no bill to repeal obama care. that is why people are upset with washington. that is why i am upset with washington. the need to share a sense of urgency. talk is cheap.
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we need action. we need people who were people of action. on the first day i took office as governor, literally after i took the old office, i returned to the attorney general and gave him the letter that authorized wisconsin to join the federal lawsuit against obamacare. even democrats will begrudgingly tell you, they will tell you about the one thing they can all agree on, democrat and republican alike, if i tell you i am going to do something, i do it. i am not going to back down from washington. i am not going to back down from doing what is right for you and for future generations going forward. [applause] governor walker: and i am proud of the fact that i am the only major candidate that has a plan to repeal obama care. see, between now and wednesday, i am going to challenge the other major candidates that will be on the stage with me at president ronald reagan's library. i will challenge those candidates to say that it is great to tell people that you want to repeal obamacare, but talk is cheap. where is your plan? at the courage to tell people what your plan is because you
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cannot repeal obamacare unless you have a plan to do it. we've got a plan and our plan starts on day one, the very first day in office. there is more. on day one as your president of the united states of america i am going to terminate the bad deal with iran on the very first day. [applause] governor walker: you see, there are other candidates, including some republicans, have a different view of that. they think it is something you should wait on it. there are others who think that they can just leave the deal in place and they will just make it work. i've got to tell you, i have looked at this extensively. i have looked at it with experts from across the country and around the world.
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this deal, the government president obama has with iran, is bad for america, it is bad for israel, it is bad for the world. i do not need to wait in a people in washington tell me what i can and can't do. i don't is a bad deal today and i will terminate that on my first day in office. [applause] governor walker: but there is more as well. you see, on day one, i am going to end the unlawful executive actions of president obama when it comes to illegal immigration. you see, for years, the president said 22 times that he could not do what he did last november. he said he was not the emperor. he said he was not above the law. and then he got frustrated and did it anyway. in fact, he would still be doing it today were it not for me or 24 other governors who went to court and said in america, no man or woman is above the law, including the president of the united states. you actually have to pass things in the congress to change the law. you do not get to do it through executive action. as president, i am going to undo those unlawful actions on my first day. i am not going to wait, i am
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going to do it on day one. it is important to tell people not about just the things that i mentioned but i am announcing that we have a plan to wreck havoc on washington and the plan starts on day one. so my promise -- thank you. [applause] governor walker: and so my promise to all of you here and all of the people across america is every week, starting next week, we are going to lay out another one of our reforms, our big, bold reforms, that we are going to do one day one. next week we will be in monday in las vegas and we will tell the american people what we are going to do when it comes to taking on the big government union bosses. we are going to do to take the power and put it into the hands of the hard-working people and the country. simple things like on day one i am going to stop the government from taking money out of the paychecks of federal employees for political union dues. because i do not think any worker in this country should be required to put money into a political fund that does not support candidates that they do not support. why should you have money from your paycheck go to support somebody that you fundamentally
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opposed? that is wrong. you're going to start with that and we are going to -- we are going to start with that and we are going to do more to shift the power. there will be many more, week after week. we want to be a campaign that is about solutions. because you see, to wreack pentagon washington, we have had those battles -- havok, on washington, we are used to that, we have had those battles, but it takes leaders that have solutions. we have heard political rhetoric. we need solutions. clinical rhetoric does not cover it. actions speak louder than words. i actually have a plan, a plan of action, to move this country forward. my commitment to you here today is that we are going to lay that out week by week between now and the elections to tell the american people exactly what we are going to do. not to lay out a bumper sticker, not to lay out a talking point,
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but literally tell you what we are going to do on all of the major issues and how we are going to start on day one. people are cynical and understandably so. it is not just about anger, it is about urgency. anger is a negative thing. it causes people to check out. what i sense is a sense of urgency. we need leaders who will tell us what they will do and have the confidence they will actually do that. that is what i did as governor. that is what i did as county executive. when i laid out exactly what i was going to do in the first days i was in office. i laid it out in a car and told people to -- card and told people to hold me responsible. i still run into democrats who tell me i still have your card on my refrigerator. because i cannot believe somebody dared me to check to see if i would dare and you did every one of those things and for that i will hope for you going forward. i think that is what people are hungry for. people who do not just say things but say this is what i am going to do and how i am going
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to do it. we need leaders with real solutions. we have a plan to move the country forward. to wreack havoc on washington we need a leader who has been tested. we have seen the mistakes that happen when you put somebody in president was never been in charge before. you can make all of the promises in the world. you can say whatever sounds great. but if you cannot deliver on those promises, talk is cheap. that does not get us moving forward. if we want to wreck havoc on washington we need a leader that has been tested and i have been tested more than any other leader in this race. what is the old adage? what does not kill you makes you stronger. it returns if i wondered if that was just figurative, the way things -- there were times that i wondered if it was just figurative, the way things were going. i have passed the test time and
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time and time again. if you give me the honor of serving as your president, i am ready to leave this exceptional country filled with exceptional people going forward. -- lead the successful country filled with exceptional people going forward. [applause] governor walker: here on this great stage, this stage were ronald reagan found his voice, not just as a student at your reader, but for the nation and -- at your reject, before the nation -- eureka, but for this nation and for this world. i appreciate you being here. we have two sons, matthew who is a senior at college and alex who was a junior. we have talked about this for years. the reason we ran for governor is because of our sons. we saw a state that was not fitting in the right direction and we felt we needed to do something about it.
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the reason i am running for president is in the same vein. for me, it is about matt and alex and all of you here, the younger ones as well. those yet to be born. because really the american dream is not about a business or a home or anything else of material value. the american dream, the american dream is about ensuring that your children and someday your grandchildren have a better life than the one you inherited from your parents and your grandparents. that is why we are here. that is why we took on all the pressure. that is why, but is the reason i ran for governor because when we had 100,000 protesters, when we had death threats, when my kids were threatened on facebook, when awful things were said about my parents and my father-in-law and my family, and then about a title, i would have said, that is enough. i do not need this job. i do not need this title. instead it was a great reminder for me that the reason i got into this was not for a position, it was to make sure that my children and others like them had a better future.
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and i was able to these challenges, and they are big, do not get me wrong, look at the size of the debt and the size and scope of the federal government, you look at the economic recovery that we have yet to see, you look at the challenges of isis and iran and places around the world, it is not going to be easy. it is not going to be easy. but just like reagan, i am an optimist. i believe in the american people. i believe there has been no challenge we have ever faced in this country but is too big for the resolve of the american people. i believe if we have leaders that think more about the next generation of the next election, there is nothing that we cannot accomplish together. now more than ever, we need a leader who will fight and win. a leader who will fight and win for reform in washington. a leader who will fight and win for true economic growth, not just for now before the future and future generations -- but
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for the future and future generations. a leader who will fight and win to make sure that our children and grandchildren are safe from isis and the threats in the world. if you elect me as your next president, i will tell you this. i will not back down. i won't back down. i haven't tested, not just for others, but for myself. i know i will not back down from the challenges that this next president will be required to face to make this country great again. i will not back down from these challenges. now more than ever we needed somebody who will fight and win for you. somebody who will fight and win for your family. someone who will fight and win for america. i ask for your vote. thank you so much. [applause]
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>> c-span, back on the road to the white house this morning at liberty university to hear from democratic presidential candidate, liberty -- bernie sanders. we will take you there live as soon as he arrives and speak. this is the same location that senator ted cruz made his announcement for a run for the white house. senator sanders is scheduled to ago, speaking six minutes but as we wait for his appearance let's take a look at a preview of the event and what to expect when we spoke this morning with a reporter. the headline to your piece says campaign tors takes christian school. why liberty and why now?
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the school invites every candidate who is running for reticular office. bernie accepted the invitation. he is the first from the democratic side to accept the invitation. he has told me he does not -- on his stance on gay marriage or abortion rights, but people might agree to doim on the need something about childhood poverty, or his actions against nutrition programs, social security, his fight against income inequality. he sees that as not only economic issues, but moral issues. he said he wants to begin a dialogue on what morality means, particularly at a bible school,
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and see if he can find common ground. host: how may students are you expecting today? guest: i am not sure. the students are required to attend. not sure. several thousand, at least. travelinghave been with the senator. what has the most recent part of his trip and like? how are the crowds? what is he message, gaining from this? he did three stops. i was with him for a couple of stops in south carolina on saturday. that will be a key state. the first southern primary state. the first state he is going to
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face a largely african-american electorate. that was saturday. he was in greensboro, north carolina, yesterday. with ated off saturday historically black university, benedict college. a smaller crowd there. he took questions. the other event i attended was in rock hill, south carolina. about 3000. people were really enthusiastic there. about income inequality, the need to do something about racial justice issues, criminal justice, and continuing his economic populist message, taking on the billionaire class. people were responding to it.
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florence, south carolina, held that town hall leading -- meeting. sanders and his outreach to the african-american community. guest: what they say is they are just getting started. they are just starting to branch out. they realize they have a lot of work to do. this is the state hillary clinton came in second in the primary in 2008. she and bill clinton has strong support in the african-american community. bernie sanders is largely unknown. a are taking their message across the state. they are starting with the grassroots campaign.
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they are knocking on doors, signing up volunteers, trying to harness this enthusiasm and move it forward. i think the meeting with black and elected officials, that was something they planned to keep doing. they plan to keep having someone with influential people in the community that can help spread their message. nicole reporting. you can read her piece today. >> senator bernie sanders, on the stage here at liberty university. you can find all of our coverage of presidential candidates
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online in the c-span video library. sent your son to live the perfect life and die a sinner's death. thek you to he who knew sins so that we might become the righteousness of god. , thatyou to you, jesus you were the sacrificial lamb. that you died on the cross for the sins of man. thank you that three days later after they took that body off the cross and put it in a tomb, the tomb was empty because the fact that death could not keep you and through that resurrection power we find hope today. and your works. we are grateful that that is the hope for humanity. name.her today in your we are your people.
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the you would teach us. that you would use our guest today to help us know not just what to think, but how to think. help us today to show graciousness and love. thank you for the opportunity you have given us to learn how in this great nation we can do together what we could never do alone. we are grateful, father for the gift you have given us. we pray this in your name. amen. we thank the campus band for joining us today. looking really good. real quick, a few announcements this morning. i see that we have a lot of guests here with us today. we are grateful that you found your way here. a few announcements for the student body. that's what this is. we convene, that's the word, convocation. transformation or entertainment purposes. just to put things in front of this student body.
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i know that you have been just what know about we did for one of our own students. ago we brought forth natalie kiss danza, telling you that she was having trouble making ends meet financially. by the way, this was a girl with a high point gpa and she worked at dominoes and she was doing everything that she could at she was having a hard time making the ends meet as a family. you as the student body walked over with a bucket and a five gallon drum. it was what we were using as a prop that day. we put it in our hand. you guys not only gave what she needed that day for her to be able to pay for this semester's tuition, you gave above that. about $7,000 as college students . i want to say to you, an incredible act of graciousness.
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[applause] here is what is beautiful about that, she could take that $7,000 addition and put it in her pocket to use for next semester. literally the biggest giver of that day was natalie herself. she decided to take that $7,000 that was above and beyond and help to pay for other students having financial trouble. isn't that beautiful? so proud of her. what an example she is. natalie, youow might want to let her know how she can help you. it's going to be awesome. [laughter] really quickly, the other thing was the overwhelming response we now.rom you about lusend our humanitarian effort as a school. we asked you if you wanted to be part of it. know more, we
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give you an opportunity to come to an event that was at 9:00 last wednesday night. thousands of you came. we were hoping for 2500 of you to respond. we had about 6000 of you respond. many of you already filled out the application. by far the is the largest single response we have had like that as a student body and it just goes to show that nobody is a greater servant than a liberty university student. just know, as an announcement here, know this. we have crashed the site, all right? with applications. we have overwhelmed it with questions. this is a beta stage moment. be patient with us. if you go on the site and begin to do the application to be part of it and say you want to go to haiti when there is an earthquake, i want to help miss one i want to week here to go elsewhere answer people in need, know that part
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of that persistence will be that you go in, the application form is hard to come by because so many people are trying to log on . you patiently wait one hour, you go again. that is on you to persevere through the growing pains of this thing that is brand-new that we just launched that a lot of you responded to. ,o, it's good problems to have so many of you are getting on there, it's crashing. be patient with us. we just want to continue to worship for another minute. and then our leader, our president will come and introduce our distinguished guest to you. all right? let's stand together for one more song. >> ♪ our father is alive
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, god almighty through your holy spirit conceiving christ the son jesus christ the savior i believe in god almighty i believe in christ spiritve in the holy i believe in the resurrection i believe he will walk again jesus name of
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our judge does not depend us daysep missing every single way fatherve in god, our i believe in christ above i believe in the holy spirit i believe in the resurrection i believe he will rise again
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i believe in the virgin birth unioneve in the sacred i believe in resurrection i believe in god our father christve in i believe in the holy spirit
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i believe in the name of jesus father ♪ >> amen. have a seat, real quickly. it was right about one year ago that i had the privilege of moving my entire family, our entire lives out of the inner city of birmingham, where we were pastoring as a family. the first conversation i ever had about this was one year ago with our president. i had never had a conversation on the phone.well instantly it felt like i was speaking to a humble man who
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really loved his children. when he spoke of our student body, he did not speak of a bunch of people who paid tuition to come into an organization that he leads. he spoke like a father would. his hopesns for you, for you, everything that he had to say about the student body was very much from' one who wanted that are for his own children. just remember getting off the phone and feeling endeared to him. a few more conversations and then we got invited as a family to come here and i met becky falwell and i saw the graciousness of that entire family. over and over again over the last year i have watched someone who has been a great champion for champions for christ. i wanted to say this before our president comes to introduce our guest, nobody loves you more than our president. no one cares about you wants the
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best for you, wants to cb -- wants to see you become world-class leaders. a platform for ideas where people from all walks of life would present this to us. to: abed as an honor are with you. "jerry."was saying i told them, they are not doing -- booing, they were saying jerry. can we give out a very fancy jerry for our own president falwell? thank you. [laughter] [applause] chantfalwell: they do the
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better than you do. [laughter] thank you for that warm introduction. welcome to convocation this morning. we are humbled and welcome to -- we're humbled to welcome this special guest this morning. senator bernie sanders is a special guest this morning. [applause] he is a democratic candidate for president of the united states. senator sanders, we made room for a lot of your supporters here locally in the front row. you have got a fan club here. he was elected to the u.s. senate for the first time in 16 years as the sole congressman from vermont. he attended brooklyn college and the university of chicago. he later moved to vermont where he became a filmmaker, a carpenter. he was elected mayor of remington, vermont i can vote in
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in1. -- vermont by 10 votes 1971. he turned it into one of the most citing and livable cities in the nation. major strides in affordable housing, environmental protection, child care, youth programs, and the arts. foras fought tirelessly working families, focusing on the shrinking middle class. practicaln called a and successful legislator. he passed more amendments that any mouse in congress. he lives in burlington, vermont right now. asking, sinceen we announced, since david came to me and told me that senator sanders had agreed to speak, i told him that's great. people have been asking -- will you be able to find any common ground with the senator? i think i did.
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this morning senator sanders, could you come up? [cheers and applause] future he ise going to be a fan of the liberty flames. [cheers and applause] so, we've already found some common ground, i hope. senator sanders, we welcome you to liberty university and are humbled and honored that you have come in and please give him a warm welcome. [cheers and applause] senator sanders: thank you. .resident falwell david. thank you very much for inviting and i to be with
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you even this morning. the invitation very much. let me start off by acknowledging what i think all of you already know. that is the views that many here at liberty university have and i issues.ber of important i believe in a woman's right to control her own body. [cheering] i believe in women's rights. [cheering] i believe and a rights, and gay marriage. rights ande in gay gay marriage. [cheering] but i came here today because i believe from the bottom of my
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heart that it is vitally important for those of us who hold different views to be able to engage in a civil discourse. applause]d there is on both sides too much shouting at each other. there is too much making fun of each other. now, in my view, and i say this heart,one who voices his i have given dozens of speeches in the last few months, it is easy to go out and talk to people who agree with you.
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i was in greensboro, north carolina just last night. we had 9000 people out. mostly they agreed with me. tonight we could have thousands out who agree with me. that's not hard to do. that's what politicians by and large do. we talked to people who agree with us. but it is harder. to try and communicate with those who do not agree with us on every issue. [applause] mr. sanders: and it is important to see where if possible, and i do believe if possible, we can find common ground. now liberty university is a
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religious school, obviously. [applause] mr. sanders: and all of you are proud of that. [applause] you are a school which, as all of us in our own way tries to understand the meaning of morality, what does it mean to live a moral life? and you try to understand in this very complicated modern world that we live in, what the words of the bible mean in today's society. you are a school which tries to behavets students how to ,ith decency and with honesty
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and how you can best relate to your fellow human beings. and i applaud you for trying to achieve those goals. [applause] let me take a , tont, or a few moments tell you what motivates me in the work that i do as a public servant, as a senator from the state of vermont. and let me tell you that it goes without saying, i am far from being a perfect human being, but i am motivated by a vision which in all of the great religions, christianity, judaism, islam, buddhism, and other religions.
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that vision is so beautifully and clearly stated in matthew 7: 12, and it states "so in everything due to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the law and the prophets. that is the golden rule." do unto others what you would have them do to you. that is the golden rule and it is not very complicated. frank.be i understand that the issues of abortion and gay marriage are issues that you feel very strongly about. we disagree on those issues. i get that.
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but let me respectfully suggest that there are other issues out there that are of enormous consequence to our country and in fact to the entire world, that maybe, just maybe, we do not disagree on. maybe, we cant try to work together to resolve them. [applause] mr. sanders: "but let justice roll on like a river, righteousness like a never failing stream. justice, treating others the way we want to be treated. people, no matter
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their race, their color, their stature in life, with respect and with dignity. [applause] mr. sanders: in my view, it would be hard for anyone in this thattoday to make the case the united states of america, our great country, a country which all of us love, it would be hard to make the case that we , or anythingciety resembling a just society today. [applause] mr. sanders: in the united
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states of america today, there is massive injustice in terms of income and wealth inequality. in justice is rampant. we live, and i hope all of you know this, in the wealthiest country in the history of the world. but most americans do not know that. because almost all of that wealth and income is going to the top 1%. that is the truth. time -- and iin a warn all of you if you would, put this in the context of the bible, not me, in the context of the bible -- we are living in a time where a handful of people
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have wealth beyond comprehension , and i'm talking about tens of billions of dollars. enough to support their families for thousands of years. with huge yachts and jet planes and tens of billions. more money than they would ever know what to do with. moment,hat very same there are millions of people in our country, let alone the rest of the world, who are struggling to feed their families. they are struggling to put a roof over their heads, and some of them are sleeping out on the streets. they are struggling to find doctorn order to go to a when they are sick. morality,e talk about
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and when we talk about justice, we have to, in my view, understand that there is no muchce when so few have so and so many have so little. [applause] mr. sanders: there is no justice , and i want you to hear this 1/10 of when the top 1%, not 1%, the top 1/10 of 1% today in america owns almost as much wealth as the bottom 90%. and in your heart, you will have to determine the morality of
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that, and the justice of that. there is no justice when here in virginia and vermont and all over this country millions of people are working long hours for abysmal abysmally low-- wages of seven dollars an hour, eight dollars an hour, nine dollars an hour, working hard but unable to bring in enough money to adequately feed their kids. at the same time, 58% of all new income generated is going to the top 1%. think about the morality of that, the justice of that isd whether or not
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what we want to see in our country. justiceew, there is no when in recent years, we have seen a proliferation of millionaires and billionaires while at the same time the united states of america has the highest rate of childhood poverty of any major country on earth. how can we? i want you to go into your hearts, how can we talk about , when we about justice turn our backs on the children of our country? [applause] mr. sanders: now you have got to
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think about it. you have to think about it and you have to feel it in your guts. are you content? do you think it is moral that 20% of the children in this country, the wealthiest country in the history of the world, are living in poverty? do you think it is acceptable that 40% of african-american children are living in poverty? justiceew, there is no and morality suffers. when in our wealthy country millions of children go to bed hungry. that is not morality. and that in my view is not what
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america should be about. [applause] mr. sanders: in my view, there when the 15e wealthiest people in this country in the last two years, two years saw their wealth by $170 billion. two years. the wealthiest 15 people in this country saw their wealth increase by $170 billion. wealthnds, that is more acquired in a two year period
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130 is owned by the bottom million americans. and while the very, very rich become much richer, millions of families have no savings at all. nothing in the bank. and they worry every single day that if their car breaks down, they cannot get to work and if they cannot get to work, they lose their job. and if they lose their job they do not feed their family. years, 15 people saw $170 billion increase in their wealth. 45 million americans live in poverty. that in my view is not justice. economy, rigged
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designed by the wealthiest people in this country to benefit the wealthiest people in this country at the expense of everybody else. [applause] mr. sanders: in my view, there is no justice when thousands of yearcans die every single because they do not have any health insurance and do not go to a doctor when they should. i have talked personally to doct ors throughout vermont and physicians around the country. without exception, they tell me there are times when patients walk into their office very, very sick and they say, why didn't you come in here when you're sick? and the answer is, i do not have
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any health insurance or i have a high deductible or i thought the problem would get better. and sometimes it doesn't, and sometimes they die because they lack health insurance. that is not justice. that is not morality. people should not be dying in the united states of america when they are sick. [applause] mr. sanders: what that is, is an indication that we are the only that doestry on earth not guarantee health care to all people as a right. and i think we should change that. [applause] and i think, i
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think that when we talk about morality, what we are talking about is all of god's children, the poor, the wretched. they have a right to go to a doctor when they are sick. [applause] mr. sanders: there is a lot of country from politicians about family values. you have all heard that. let me tell you about a family value. justiceew, there is no when low income and working-class mothers are forced to separate from their babies one or two weeks after birth, and go back to work because they
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need the money that their jobs provide. i know everybody here, we all are. maybe in different ways, but all of us believe in family values. jane and i have four kids. we have seven beautiful grandchildren. we believe in family values. value is not a family when all of you know that the most important moments in time of a human being's life is the first weeks and months after that baby is born. that is the moment when mother bonds with the baby, gets to love and know her baby, and dad is there as well. that is what a family is about. those of you, at least those of you who are parents -- more parents back there than here i suspect -- you know what an
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unforgettable moment that is. and i want you to think whether you believe it is a family value that the united states of america is the only, only major country on earth that does not provide paid family and medical leave. [applause] mr. sanders: now in english, what that means is all over the world, when a woman has a baby she is guaranteed the right, because society understands how important that moment is, she is guaranteed the right to stay home and get income in order to nurture her baby. and that is why i believe when we talk about family values, that the united states government must provide at least
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12 weeks of paid family and medical leave. [applause] mr. sanders: in my view, there is no justice in our country when youth unemployment exists at tragically high levels. i requested a study last month from a group of economists, and 51% ofey told me is that african-american high school graduates between the ages of 17 and 20 are unemployed or underemployed. 51%. we have in this country
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sufficient amounts of money to put more people in jail than any other country on earth. the united states has more , aple in jail then china communist, authoritarian country. but apparently, we do not have enough money to provide jobs and education to our young people. i believe that is wrong. [applause] mr. sanders: i am not a theologian. i am not an expert on the bible. nor am i a catholic. i am just a united states senator from the small state of vermont.
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agree with pope francis who will soon becoming to visit us in the united states. [applause] i agree with pope francis when he says, and i quote "the current financial profoundiginated in a the denial of the privacy of the human person." created new idols. the worship of the ancient golden calf has returned in a new and ruthless guys in the idolatry of money, and the an impersonalf economy lacking a truly human
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purpose." [applause] mr. sanders: the pope also writes "there is a need for financial reform along ethical lines that would produce in its turn and economic reform to benefit everyone. money has to serve, not to rule." [applause] aresanders: now those pretty profound words, which i hope we will all think about. view, and i agree with him, we are living in a , and thed in a world bible speaks to this issue, in a nation and in a world which
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worships not love of brothers and sisters, not love of the poor and the sick, but worships the acquisition of money and great wealth. that is theieve country we should be living in. [applause] mr. sanders: money and wealth should serve the people. the people should not have to serve money and wealth. [applause] throughout human history, there has been endless discussion. who we are as human beings, people who think and ask questions, and less discussion and debate about the meaning of justice and about the
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meaning of morality. and i know that here at liberty university, those are the kinds of discussions you have every day, and those are the kinds of discussions you should be having, and the kinds of discussions we should be happening all over america. concludeope, and i with this thought, i would hope very much that as part of that discussion and part of that learning process, some of you will conclude that if we are moral in striving to be a and just society, it is imperative that we have the poor,e to stand with the to stand with working people,
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and when necessary, take on very powerful and wealthy people whose greed, in my view, is doing this country in norman us harm. thank you all -- enormous harm. thank you all very much. [applause] mr. sanders: thank you. thank you. [applause] >> thank you, senator. obviously, just a few minutes with some questions. these questions, sir, are from our student body. we opened up to our student
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government the opportunity for questions to come your way, and a lot of questions poured in. i think these few questions in the few minutes we have with you will represent the main thoughts on the hearts of our students, the main things they wanted to know. i think you are going to find a lot of commonality obviously in wanting to see someone go to work and get paid more for it, wanting to see children not the hungry, wanting to see the reality of just racism being erased out of this country. you are going to find a lot of commonality obviously, for college students to hear from you that public higher education could be free, so anybody who is 19 will be excited about free college. the question is not so much the commonality in wanting to see those things, but how do we get there? mindset, just a
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little bit about how we would get there. as far as race inequality is concerned, this question from one of our students. president, elected what would you do to bring healing and resolution to the issue of racism in our country? we both want to see that go away. what steps would you begin to take if you were our leader in that resolved? mr. sanders: that is an excellent question. i would hope and i believe that every person in this room today understands that it is on acceptable to judge people, to discriminate against people based on the color of their skin. [applause] mr. sanders: and i would also say that as a nation, the truth
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that a nation in which many ways was created, and i'm sorry to have to say this, from way back on racist principles, we have, a long way as a nation. my guess is that probably not orrybody here is an admirer voted for barack obama. 2008 thisint is, in country took a huge step forward in voting for a candidate based on his ideas and not the color of his skin. [applause] mr. sanders: and whether you and i do, he not, is a friend of mine and i work with him on many issues, that is a step forward for america. [applause] saysanders: but let me also what everybody here knows, and my thoughts having just returned from south carolina, we all know
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to what degree racism remains alive in this country. i cannot understand, i really cannot. i think about it, i try to understand it, how a sick man can walk into a bible study bible, prayss the with people in the room, and then take out a gun and kill nine of them because the color of their skins were different than his. and i cannot understand for the life of me, how there can be hundreds of groups in this country whose sole reason for existence is to promote hatred. these are hate groups. and they say, join us so we can hate african-americans or days or jews or emigrants or anybody that is different from us. i cannot understand.
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but let us be clear. when you have unarmed by policeerican shot officers, something which has been going on for years, that is also institutional racism and cries out for reform. [applause] mr. sanders: i am a former mayor who has worked closely with police officers. the vast majority of them are honest, work hard, and do a very good job. [applause] mr. sanders: but when a police with anyreaks the law other public official, that officer must be held
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accountable. [applause] mr. sanders: that is justice. and there is a lot to be done in terms of our criminal justice system, in terms of minimal sentencing, in terms of local police departments which look like armies that are invading a community. but to answer your question, i think what we have got to do is when we see instances of racism, when we hear political leaders appealing to the worst elements of us by making racist attacks against people from another country or people whose color may be different than most of us, we have got to stand up and say, in america you are not going to do that. [applause] >> we could not agree with you
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more on that thought. we would say, i think i speak for many of our students, that it is not so much skin issue as it is a sin issue. [applause] >> that you can change the of police, put cameras on them all day long, but behavior modification can only stop so short as identity change. [applause] >> i think we want what you want. mr. sanders: let me just say this. the answer is, obviously we have got to change our hearts. thatverybody should know 60, 70 years ago in this country, we had segregated schools and segregated restaurant. took a supreme court, it took martin luther king jr., it took millions of people demand public policy which ended
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segregation. >> that is right. i think where you are going to find commonality is at liberty university, we are not interested in making sure people of color are not invited to sit at the bus. we want to see them on the bus and on the restaurant. on protecting the vulnerable, i think our student are more passionate about that than any other thing. the question they wanted to know went way just beyond wealth inequality. we certainly have those kind of things, but protecting the vulnerable, this was probably the number one question we got. senator sanders, you have talked in your campaign about how it is immoral to protect the expenseire class at the of our most vulnerable in society, obviously children. you just mentioned that in your talk with us earlier. a majority of christians would but would also
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go further and say that children in the womb need our protection even more. [applause] how do you reconcile? so the question, sir, obviously you can see this is what they want to ask. how do you reconcile the two? i know you have a different view. i know that you, sir, and i do not have to be i to i on it. i sense a real sincerity in you on wanting to see our children protected. can you see how we see the child
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in the womb is the most vulnerable? mr. sanders: i do, and i understand this is an area where we disagree. i understand and i believe that impractical for the government to tell everyone in this country the painful and difficult choice she has to make on that issue. [applause] honestly, do not want to be too provocative, but very often conservatives say, that the government out of my life. i do not want the government telling me what to do. but on this very sensitive issue on which we are divided, a lot of people agree with you and a lot of people agree with me. my view is, i respect absolutely a family who says no, i'm not going to have an abortion. but i would hope that other people respect the very painful and difficult choice that many
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women feel the have to make, and do not want the government telling them what they have to do. [applause] but, i want to take that question a step further. we do disagree on that issue. note this or butts about it -- no ifs or buts about it. here is where i hope we have common ground. i'm going to be partisan for a moment, because i want to lay this on your shoulders. member of the u.s. senate budget committee. i want to tell you, what was in the republican budget that passed a number of months ago. check it out. you think i'm not telling you the truth. when you talk about issues about children, understand republican
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budget through 27 million people off of health care, including many children. time when many families cannot afford to send their kids to college, and i am running on a program that says every public college and university in america should be tuition-free. but at a time when families cannot afford to send their kids to college, republican budget grants0 billion in hell over a ten-year. -- pell grants over a ten-year. -- a ten-year period. theblicans cut money for wic program, which goes to low income pregnant women and their babies. to add insult to injury, in that budget, the republicans provided over $250 billion over a 10
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year. in tax breaks -- over a 10 year period in tax breaks to the top 1%. i do not think that is a moral budget. [applause] i do not pretend to be an expert on budgets, but i think a lot of us would be very interested in our government budgeting for planned parenthood. i think a lot of us would be very interesting in looking for those budgets, and i think they get a lot more complex. in for just one more question, sir, for our last question on religious freedom. a lot of questions from our students who i think really were with concernpered and broken heartedness when they see the world around them. this is where i genuinely sense in you, you are a lot like a father figure. mr. sanders: a grandfather figure, i am getting older every day.
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>> and i sense that same concern in your heart as we would have. here is the question in that frame. we're watching on the news a refugee crisis in syria and religious minorities facing persecution in the middle east. how do you feel the united states should respond? do you feel that as the united states that we should be obligated, more than we even are now, in responding? that there would be a stewardship of responsibility on the greatest nation of the world, to step in even at a greater level. mr. sanders: obviously, the answer is yes but i do not quite know what the word "step in" means. if the question is, do we have a moral responsibility not just for, to work with europe and to work with some of these wealthy gulf-region countries like saudi
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arabia, united arab emirates, kuwait, to help with this human tragedy. can you imagine people leaving their homes in syria and iraq with simply the close on their back, dragging their kids with them? do we had a lower responsibility to work the rest of the world in providing help bringing some of those people to this country? the answer is absolutely yes. absolutely yes. but, this is where it gets tricky. that is in a sense, a reasonably easy response. we should do that. all of you know that the middle east and other parts of the world or a real quagmire. we are living in a crazy and dangerous world, we see horror stories every day of isis and people doing barbaric thing. iraq.d against the war in [applause]
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mr. sanders: and i voted against that war because i worried very much, and if you read what i wrote at that time, what i'm telling you is the truth, about the instability and destabilization that that would bring about. so the question of u.s. military force becomes part of this discussion. -- i amme just say this the former chairman of the united states senate committee on veterans affairs, and i would hope this is an area that all of us can agree on, that we are going to provide all of the health care and benefits that our veterans need. [applause] we have to take care of our own, absolutely. warsanders: but the cost of is something that is far greater, i fear, then most people now.
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war, were we go off to have got to make certain that we have explored every other possible option. [applause] people may not know this, but as the former chairman i do. in iraq and afghanistan we lost 6700 brave men and women. many came home without legs and arms and eyesight. 500,000 of them came home with post-traumatic stress disorder or traumatic rain injuries. -- brain injuries. their lives have been disrupted, families have been separated, children have suffered. a great nation like the united states of america, with the most powerful military on earth in my view, should use every possible opportunity to resolve international conflict without going to war.
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war should be the last resort. [applause] absolutely. senator, it has just been an honor, sir, to have you with us. wait on occasion have the opportunity to have questions and answers with some of our guests. the one thing we always end with ,s the question of how can we and it is not just a statement, i really believe that our students are wanting to know, we knowwe glean in -- you were in north carolina last night, you are going to be in manassas this afternoon. meeting your staff, they are incredibly hard-working people in this very fast-paced where you and your wife are on that campaign trail with grandkids. you are the liveliest 73-year-old i have ever met, sir. how can we pray for you and your family? how can we be thinking
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of you? when we think of you and see you, what can we say bernie sanders asked us to pray for him? mr. sanders: david, thank you very much for that thought. i appreciated from the bottom of my heart. but this is what i would like to be -- prayers to be for. not just for me, for more significantly our prayers for our country, prayers for how we bring our people together, prayers for how we can create in the wealthiest country in the history of the world, a beautiful country, a country where all people have health care, where all kids have the ability to go to college, where we have wiped out childhood poverty. those are the prayers that i want to join with you in making. [applause] >> let's do that. let's do that now. let's pray together. can we do that?
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father, we thank you for the fact that god, you owned the cattle on a thousand hills, that you are the great provider. father, at this very moment we come to you as the god of this universe, god that is able to provide, and we pray that your provisions would slow down. nations, wegod, all thank you, lord, where morality stop short spirituality can go further. and so we lean in on you. we thank you where government fails, god, that your kingdom prevails. we pray for a greater nature -- nation. we pray for justice and compassion and mercy to be the greatest thing that we are known for as a nation. that our power would be known as
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a power that is spent, father, for the least of these. , thank you forrd this opportunity to come together. i pray for this man, his family, his team. give them sustainable pay as they are on the road. i pray that father, in this very moment, that he will know he has made friends today, that he has come into an environment where people show grace, show appreciation, and show humility, father. and also gratitude is in our hearts, that he would take the time out of his scheduled to come. amen. can we thank our senator bernie williams? [applause]
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>> vermont independent senator bernie sanders running on the democratic ticket, trying to get the democratic nomination for president in 2016. we are going to take your phone calls. you can let us know what you think about what you just heard from the candidate. the numbers are on the screen. send us a tweet or join us on our facebook page, facebook.com/c-span. let us know what you think. we have already got a number of callers so after that speech, which was about 27 minutes, going to get right to your phone calls. gary is on the phone from everett, washington on the independent line. caller: this is what is great about bernie, is that he can go
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into a place like a very fundamental, spiritual area and actually connect. and that is what he makes him popular today, because he can connect with so many people. he is telling truth. he is not a politician. he is intelligent. he sees the world as it is and is not afraid to say it. i think the reception he got there was incredible because he is not a fundamentalist spiritual guy and yet, he spoke the truth and fundamentalists love the truth. up ins why he is heading the polls, as far as i can see. on that note, let's take a look at a couple of tweets. panderingrtainly not to the crowd at liberty university, gives a vigorous
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defense of abortion rights and most of crowd is quiet." the hill talking about some poll numbers of hillary clinton suffering as the hill puts it, a germanic tumble. things have been terrible for hillary lately. they could get worse before they get better. that is from rollcall. opens the doormp for wealthy outsiders. we are talking about bernie sanders, senator from vermont. weighing in on the republicans line. caller: good morning. it just amazes me how educated , you cannot get education for free. somebody has got to pay for it. in communist countries where everybody does the exact same
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respect bernie because he comes out and says he is a socialist but not a communist all the way. instead of bringing people down like you said, about billionaires, we need to raise people up. i do not think all this free stuff that they claim that they can give, which has got to come somewhere, is the way to do it because it is just a lie. it doesn't work. it has never worked in history. is way outist system in the world than a communist or socialist country. who are you interested in, in terms of the presidential race? caller: i really do not see anybody yet. nobody tells the truth, no one tells the truth. host: frank is on the line, fort lauderdale, florida, independent. caller: this is frank.
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i would like to give my input to this. one of the things i was interested in was there was recently a news item about the russians moving troops into syria, and syria isn't real bad shape nowadays -- is in real bad shape nowadays. , was stationed in turkey bernie sanders did not address it yet, but i want to find out if he would be in favor of may be building up more troops at nato, particularly turkey, because of what is going on in syria and some other areas of the middle east. this might be something we might policy ofthe containment years ago developed by george can, and was geared toward the soviet -- soviet union. that maybe we might be seeing some of these issues replaying themselves nowadays, and i would
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like to see how bernie sanders, or for that matter, any other candidate would address. i felt george w. bush made a mistake by going into iraq. i was against that. maybe somewhat of a toned down policy that is muscular in content but not aggressive and belligerent. host: we have a number of appearances, both from bernie sanders as well as the other candidates. c-span.org, them at if you want to go back and look and see what the hell already said on the campaign trail. what they have already said on the campaign trail. bernie concluded a 20 minute speech -- a 27 minutes speech, received politely by most and enthusiastically by some. moral making the
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theological argument for social economic progressivism to cheers at liberty you. interesting dynamic." "the loudest cheer when the moderator of bernie discussion says that children in the womb deserve equal protection." that was the dynamic at liberty university. ronnie is next on the democrat line from mooresville, pennsylvania. caller: i am very interested in the last caller that spoke about education being free. and i have children who are in their 30's that have gone to college and have good careers right now, but i want to say that ind i tell them less than a generation, in a decade of 10 years, it has become impossible, the cost of higher education today. when i went to college, i went
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to temple university in downtown philadelphia, it became state-related. year tofrom $1000 a $450 a year. host: did you hear anything from bernie sanders? caller: that is what he would say. this other person is saying, he is offering free education. with the progress of this country and how much money there an educated electorate. keep thes the rich electorate uneducated and they do not know what is going on, then they are going rule and make more money than it is unbelievable right now. host: are you interested in bernie sanders for president? hillary clinton? who has your
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vote. caller: bernie sanders talks to the universal issues. hillary clinton talks about women's rights. rights,rights are human as she always tells us about. but this is a case, more than women's rights, it is human rights. host: i want to leave it there, get a couple more calls in. freddie's on the line from the louisiana, independent. caller: this is freddie. host: hi, freddie. caller: i'm a first-time caller. i became an independent because of bernie sanders and hearing him on c-span years ago. hearing him speak on issues. when i heard him, he was cutting right through. there was no left, no right, cut right through the window -- the middle, and the first voice i can remember who spoke to me as
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an american. so to see him today walk into the house of opposition to speak, into that audience, and to be able to engage them and participate with them, and i think change some hearts and minds today. that is what america is all about. host: are you surprised at how well he has done so far? caller: no, not one bit. this is what america needs to understand. it is not what you see on the tv screen. this is a revolution. this is people like me and you standing up and saying, yes, it is over the way it has been, and this is the first voice we have had, the first real voice, and he went right into the lions den and look at the man. host: let's take a look here, bernie sanders -- this is from the huffington post -- what is
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next? sanders now has to focus on challenging her nationally. when he entered the race back in may, political observers largely wrote off bernie sanders as a fringe candidate for the democratic party nomination. few thought he would prevent -- present a serious challenge to hillary and now he asserts ahead of her by nearly 10 points, and recent polls in iowa show her leaving -- him leading in the hawkeye state. while early caucus and primary polls not a reliable indicator of the state race, safe to say his platform is resonating among them -- more and more democrats, and the enthusiasm for clinton is waning, giving sanders the opportunity to paint himself as a foil. anita is on the line, madison, wisconsin. have a question that
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does not really relate to the speech today. if today were voting day, i would vote for bernie sanders. no question. i have a curious question about the immigration issue in europe and the middle east, are very important. we know they are already having trouble trying to figure out whether they should or should not, whether there should be barriers or should not. i am wondering about the people who come here from central latin america, and from mexico, why are they not called immigrants? why must they be called aliens, illegals, anything we can think of? and i think about the children who came. host: thank you, anita, for the call. if you want to look back at some of the comments senator sanders made about race relations and
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religion, you can go to c-span.com and find his speech in its entirety. one more call, north carolina. caller: good morning. i think when it comes down to a choice between bernie sanders and hillary, bernie is by far better than the alternative there. but i have a couple of issues. the first one being abortion. i saw that he advocated for the women's rights, but when will somebody on the democratic side advocate for the unborn child's rights? that is to me a big, big issue. and while in my heart i look at the things that he wants to get done and i say, that would be great if we could do it, i do not know how we could pay for it. look atmost republicans these type of things and say,
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when do we have to pay, why do we have to pay for everything? soon, nobody is going to have to pay for anything. the government is going to pay for it all. it is wonderful to be able to do those things, but you have got to be able to pay for it. host: charles, thank you for the call and thank you for all of your calls. we have the phones open on 7:00 ington journal" at the morning. we will take a look back, see what he had to say if you missed any of his remarks. and then carly fiorina, she picnicuring the gop couple days ago so you can watch her remarks also. we will have that 8:30 p.m. eastern. we will take a loo s

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