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onsistency in saying he's not going to do it. >> would you drop out? >> of course i'd support him. he's the person i could get excited about. but part of the reason i got into this race because people ike paul ryan weren't stepping up to do it. paul ryan. run again i'm a huge fan of paul ryan. i would support paul ryan. but he has consistently said that he won't. we've got to get somebody who says they'll do it, we'll fight for it and make the most of t changes.s approach but he is certainly, in my mind, he most qualified person to do it and i hope we do it. >> have you talked to him. >> is speak eer boehner still s
personality or a name. i'm just running for that set of principles that says we're going principle-based member of congress. crosstalk) >> do you think it was election. e on the >> it was probably necessary. >> do you think it was necessary? >> i do. > do you think they would have delayed the election if you would have dropped out? >> no.
>> i don't know. i'm i said, i'm not -- talking about candidates or personnel. and e one thing in mind, that is principle-based, number driven. >> tonight on cspan, republican presidential candidate ben national aks at the press club. the u.s. house debates lifting the ban on crude oil exports. ouse democrats talk about the ffort to -- and who will
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it was putting special interest ahead of the common good and boy that definition, washington today is a massively corrupt place. eastern night at 8:00 p.m. on cspan's q&a. your coverage of the road to the white house 2016, where you'll find the andidates, the speeches, the debates, and most importantly, your questions. this year, we're taking our road to the white house coverage into classrooms across the country student cam contest, giving students the opportunity important issues they want to hear the most from the candidates. ollow cspan's student cam contest and road to the white house 2016 on tv, on the radio, g.d online at cspan.or candidate then carson talked about constitutional rights at the >> presidential candidate ben carson talked about constitutional rights at the national press club.
new book ate has a about the constitution titled "a more perfect union". this is an hour. >> good afternoon and welcome. my name is john hughes. for bloomberg's news' first word. breaking newsrg's desk in washington and i am president of the national press club. thank you. thank you. . [applause]. our guest today is republican presidential candidate and carson.rgeon, dr. ben he'll discuss his newest book, wife, e he wrote with his candy, titled "a more perfect union: what we the people can do to reclaim our constitutional liberties". but first, i would like to introduce our distinguished head table. his head table includes club members and also of the speaker.
from the audience's write, joseph morton, he's a washington correspondent for the omaha orld herald and he is the membership secretary of the national press club. jennifer laszlo misrahi, respectability usa. benji saarland, political reporter for msnbc. candy carson, she is the wife of our speaker. . [applause] >> thomas burr, he is the washington correspondent for the salt lake tribune and he is the vice president of the national press club. myron belkind, the george washington university professor and former president of the national press club. the managing editor of the washington post.
gabriel dibenedetti. e is the national political correspondent for politico. yasmine elsabawi, the correspondent for the kuwait dakari ahrens, he director of strategic communications for the data quality campaign. . i also want to welcome our other guests in the room today, and our cspan and public radio audiences. i want to welcome our audiences watching the live stream on our and you can s.org, also follow the action on twitter. use the hashtag #npclive. well, our speaker today has never served in congress or as he governor of state or in any
elected office of any kind. he did tell me he was elected -- and that's gets applause. todid tell me he was elected the yale board. so there's an elected office, but that's as close as it comes elected to any kind of public office. and this is one of the reasons supporters say they want him to be the next president. of the washington establishment that so many fault and ridlock ineffectiveness. trail, n the campaign he's separated himself from better funded candidates with the political experience that he lacks. recent polling has dr. carson nationally for the g.o.p. nomination, behind donald trump and ahead of carly fiorina. in campaigning, he has shown his sharp opposition to obamacare, his support of the second
amendment, his concern about the federal debt and his goal to stop abortion. all options must be on the table when confronting russia's vladimir putin. his life story has become familiar to many. he grew up poor in detroit with a single mother and excelled in school. he rose to become the director of pediatric neurosurgery at hopkins for 29 years. e became the first person to successfully separate siamese twins joined at the back of the head. the presidential medal of freedom in 2008, and he has published several books, including his auto bio graphy, "gifted hands." during various media appearances, he has made a lot of headlines, with issues such as the mass shooting in oregon, the debt limit, and whether he could vote for a muslim for president.
the best place to make news is in this room and at this podium. so let's be about it. ladies and gentlemen, please give a warm national press club woman to dr. ben carson. . . pplause] ben carson: thank you very much. andy and i love to be here and i'll get right to it. we don't have a lot of time and i want to answer some questions. why did i write this book? and america is such a great place. and i am so glad that i was born here. you know, i have traveled to 57 different countries, gotten to lots of people and a lot of other ways of life. that is remains the place
is the land of dreams. and i know a lot of people like to criticize our nation and demonize it and say it's responsible for a lot of see a e things and yet i lot of people trying to get in here and not a lot of people i'm not get out so sure that is all that legitimate, to be honest with you. growing up in poverty with a lot of disadvantages, the thing that was really great is i was still able to focus on my dreams of becoming a doctor. it was the only thing i ever wanted to do. policeman andt by fireman and went straight to doctor. [laughing] i loved anything that had to do with medicine. i even liked going to the doctor's office. nd i would gladly sacrifice a shot to be able to smell the alcohol swabs.
it was so cool. [laughing] and on through the whole process, were there a lot of way?les along the absolutely. tremendous hurdles along the way. it was still ss, possible to realize that dream, and i want to make sure that that continues to be the case. that it f the reasons was possible is because we have did everything possible to create fairness. people in here were the system who did not want to be fair. and that's why it is so important that we must preserve our constitution. virtually, all americans know that we have a constitution. but how many people actually know what's in it? and how many people actually it? what's behind nd, of course, it is the echanism that guarantees our
liberties and that provides the for the restraint of government. because our founders recognized that it was the natural tendency of government to grow. and to invade every aspect of try to control your life. that's what people do. and that's what they wanted to avoid bying this this, and that's why it's so important it.t we understand alexis de en tocqueville came to america to because the ntry, europeans were so flabbergasted ng nation, ledgli barely 50 years old, was going to dissect it and see what was of the things that really impressed him was how
educated the people were. anybody finishing the second grade was completely literate. n man on find a mountai the outskirts of society, and ere guy could read the newspap nd could tell him how our government worked. and nowadays, we don't seem to emphasize civics and things like that in school anymore and i'm sure some of you have seen some man on the street interview situations, they go just basic questions, and people have are no clue what you're talking about. and you know, they think, you well, who's the first president? they say, reagan? i mean, they just have are no idea. but it's so sad, our founders, in particular, franklin and emphasized education, and they emphasized being
informed. said our system of government and our freedoms are dependent on a well and informed educated populous. because they recognized if people are not well informed, they would be easy to manipulate, and all it would take is dishonest politicians complicit news media and into another go direction, very, very quickly. now, i will tell you right off the bat before i go any further, i'm not politically correct. i will not be politically correct. and that's one of the reasons that allows people in the press me, and that's okay. because what i really love is this country. i don't necessarily care whether the press likes me or not and, o erefore, i'm not going t conform to all their little
requirements. like people ask me all the time, why don't you just do this or do this, and then they won't say bad things about you? because this is america. that's why i'm not going to do that, and i will never do that. but i want to touch on some of the aspects of america that i in the book, like the balance of powers, the check and the separation of powers. i believe this is so vitally important and it was a touch of founders, because they recognized that each branch, executive, judicial, and egislative, would want to maintain their power and, therefore, they would push back against excesses in the other branches. extraordinarily well.
well; works well, in a government like we have when exercising their power appropriately. unfortunately, we have a legislative branch that really acts more like a peanut gallery. they sort of sit there and watch what the others do, sometimes it, but really don't offer any resistance, because they're afraid somebody might blame them. newsflash, they're going to get blamed anyway. really ought to be thinking about is how do they get involved and be more proactive? point, you se in know, i think about the recent supreme court on gay marriage. now, first of all, let me just say, i have nothing against guy people whatsoever. i know a lot of people don't believe that, because we live in a society now where if you don't accept their entire agenda, then
you're a homophobe. i, personally people, that any two regardless of sexual orientation or anything else, have the right together.te if they want to have a legal ontract drawn up which allows them to share property, have hospital visitation rights, do absolutely.ey want, i don't have any problem with that. that's the kind of country that this was designed to be. live and let live. your values on everybody else. problem.'s the but with the supreme court essentially hanges the definition of marriage, it consideration to the implications of that. group, hange it for one why won't you change it for the next? what defense do you have against the next group? are you going to say we can only
change it this one time? we're never going to change it again? well, that wouldn't be very fair. so why change it in the first place. it's been working very well for thousands of years, and that's what happens when people go in with things kering without thinking about the implications of it. branch, legislative however, i would have thought already prepared with legislation in case the supreme court came down with that decision to make sure we preserve the rights, the religious rights of everybody. ot everybody agrees with their new definition of marriage, and t's their conviction and a religious conviction. make sure they rotect peoples' religious
rights. i call upon congress to do that now, because there are people who are losing their jobs, their not fair., and it's that's not what america was supposed to be. but unless all the branches of government are functioning the right way, these are the kinds of things that happened, because there will be overreach by any of the branches, because they're composed of people and people are not perfect. but that's why we have the counterbalance in order to be rectify the situation because one group may not take into consideration the are ications of what they doing. also, you know, the constitution indicates that, you know, civil ssues really should be dealt with at the local level, at the state level. there's a reason for that. t was because the legislators
and the judiciary at the local ofel are subject to the will the people. the people vote them in, the and our te them out, founders felt that the people determinethe ones who how things work and the standards by which they lived. when you take those issues and them up to a level where the people making the sdigdzs have are no obligation whatsoever to the people, then an oligarchy th type government. that was not what the founders intended for america. so we are somehow going to have to look into ways to rebalance that, because if we continue down that pathway, you can see ow virtually everything that they intended will be upset. happen.t want that to
he preare amble to the constituti -- the preamble to the constitution alks about the growth of the government in terms of the general welfare. put doesn't mean we want to everybody on welfare. the welfare is. it means that when we do things, thatnt to do them in a way they benefit the entire society. we want to make sure everybody of in an are appropriate way. when i say "we," that does not ecessarily mean the federal government. you know, i get criticized riately, by- inapprop the way, by people who say carson grew up very poor. he must have benefitted from government programs, and now he wants to withdraw all the safety nets. blatant othing but a
lie by people who need to characterize me as heartless. they love to do that. hey love to say ben carson is insensitive, he's heartless, and they need e, because that narrative. that's the only way he's don't fit because i into their general description, a black person who is a conservative? that.can't quite deal with who talks about self reliance, on that you're not dependent them. how could you possibly say such heresy? so it's natural to demonize, and and i'm and that, actually willing to fight with them. i will continue to fight with them. but i'm fighting for something even greater. and that is, i'm fighting for the people of the united states.
because you see, we have very, very smart and very capable in our nation who would but tremely good leaders, they say, why would i get into attacked ool and be and have my family attacked and have people going through every aspect of my life and trying to demonize me, and people don't that?o do well, i'm going to fight that fight. for them. and if i'm successful, i suspect that maybe a lot more of the country who are not professional politicians will say, you know what, he did it, i'm going to do it too, and offink we'll be much better as a country when we once again understand that this country is for everybody and not for a political class.
[applause] but as far as the whole safety net argument is concerned, you worked mother extraordinarily hard. three jobs at a time, leaving before 5:00 in the morning, getting back after midnight. because she didn't want to be dependent. and she occasionally accepted some aid, but for the most part, but was able to stay off of it. and she refused to be a victim. us be refused to let victims. nd it wasn't that she didn't recognize that there were problems out there. other se to focus on things. and she would say to us, you now, if you walk into an auditorium full of biggoled, she said, you don't have a problem, they have a problem.
she said, because when you walk going to they're all cringe and wonder if you're going to sit next to them, whereas you can sit anywhere you want. [laughing] and that's kind of the way that lead my life.to have there been obstacles? of course. have there been racist people around? of course. said, that's their problem. i've got some very important things that i need to do. so i can get wrapped up in their the ems, or i can do important things. not everybody chooses to lead their life that way, and that's way that i at's the chose to lead mine, and it works pretty well, if i do say so myself. that, i am very about the downtrodden people in our society and i do believe we have a responsibility to take care of them. but when i say "we," i'm talking
"we the people," i'm talking about the private sector. i'm not talking about the government. the government has been taking really since woodrow wilson, but it kept increasing. by the time we got to lyndon poverty, d the war on it was, hey, we're the savior, we're going to take care of you guys. we're going to solve all of these problems. well, here we are, all these later, $19 trillion later. problem?olve the we have 10 times more people on food stamps, more people in poverty, welfare, broken homes, out-of-wedlock births, crime, incarceration, everything that is notposed to be better only worse, it's much worse. so i'm not going to sit here and demonize the government for doing that, but i'm saying,
time to wake up and start thinking about another way do things, rather than driving ourselves into debt without solving the problem? and that is a tremendous responsibility as well, to remain solvent. guardian of re the the people's future. how can we enjoy the liberties and have our posterity, enjoy the liberties, if they are overloaded with debt? national lion, the debt, think about that. to pay that back at $10 million you over would take 5,000 years. that's absurd, and we're putting
young the backs of our people. and now, here we are sitting well, let's increase the debt some more, let's raise the debt ceiling some more. eh, you know, did it ever maybe occur to us that there's another way? i mean, there are 4.1 million employees. many.ld offer that is too and there are 645 federal subagencies, all of budgets.e this is absurd. and we have people saying, if the budget by one penny, disaster.e a
a pediatric neurosurgeon, my hole professional career centered on the children, and on .he future of the children improve had to do to to quality of life. how can we in good conscience this cherade of responsibility know whatting we are doing to their future. if i had time, i would really get into the fiscal gap and all he implications of that and what the implications of the debt is on the fed and how irresponsibly printing money and how the low and rates re hurting the poor and the middle class, because you know, putting money into a savings account or buying bonds that can help them, the only people who can really make money are people have a risk tolerance, which allows them to go into the
and i would talk about the regulations, and how every single regulation costs oney in terms of goods and services and how those are the things that are really impacting he middle class and the poor people. it doesn't matter for wealthy bar of soap goes up for but it matters a lot the middle class and poor people. ou think about that regulatory burden and who it is really hurting. it goes on and on and on. generalre promoting the welfare, those are the kinds of things we need to be thinking about. we have to be thinking about the nisms for allowing downtrodden in our society to escape from dependency and move up into the fabric of success in our country, and we have to only have 330t we million people. lot, but china has over a billion. india has over a billion. to get the bang for the
buck out of all of our people. need to be thinking about policies that allow all of our people to rise and stop all this and, class warfare stuff you know, we can get immediate stimulus by thinking about the exists trillion that overseas. right now. money to bring that back. you know, i can remember many an the noon sitting around costcotable at kellogg or talking about the money overseas and what we were going to do ith it, how we would love to bring it back, do another factory or build something else rates wereporate tax too high. well, what if we had a six-month hiatus on those corporate taxes overseas, let that money be repatriated? i've been talking about this it wouldn't s, and cost them anything to repatriate
it. it would only request or require that 10% of it be used in enterprise zones that are set up in our major cities or to provide employment for people who are unemployed or on welfare. you want to talk about an incredible stimulus that didn't taxpayers one penny? that would be the biggest stimulus probably since fdr's new deal. . [applause] that's low-hanging fruit. low-hanging fruit. and that's what we've got to do, deal with fruit.w-hanging getting this g is business and industry thinking about how do we invest in the people around us. this is what we used to do before the government started taking over everything, because americans are very generous people. you think about the early america and you had these place, ies all over the in many cases, separated by
hundreds of miles. diddid they survive and how they thrive? because at harvest time, if a tree was up in the apple picking apples and fell out and else his leg, everybody pitched in and harvested his crops. if somebody got killed, everyone pitched in and took care of his family. that's who we are. when there's disaster in the world, who's on the front line? it's us. that and tilize recognize that we are our and it is our r job to take care of the indigent and not the duty of the government. [applause] and then another important aspect of our government is to provide for the common defense. could talk about this for a long time. but simply to allow our military o deteriorate the way it has, to fail to take care of our
veterans to the point where we every to 23 suicides day, it makes absolutely no our electric grids unprotected. it needs to be hardened. we need to have several layers of alternative energy. this is criminal what we're oing, because we are so vulnerable and, you know, we need to really beef up our cyber capabilities. and i'll tell you, under a carson administration, if us with ountry attacks a cyber attack, they're going to get so hard, it's going to take recover.ng time to we can't sit around and let and just say, you're bad, i don't like you. [laughing] you know, we can't do that. [applause] and we have to understand -- we our need to reinvigorate space program.
i think it is a crime that we that.moved away from think about all the inventions, the innovation that came out of phone, so many things, and the important thing he who he future, controls space controls the earth. we cannot be tardy to that, when there are others who are working conquer in order to that area. then the last area i just inted to mention briefly, and could really go on for quite a hile on this one, but there is only one business in america that is protected by the constitution. and that is the press. and there was a reason for that. it is because the press was of the to be an ally people. exposeey were supposed to nd inform the people in a
nonpartisan way. when they become partisan, which they are, they distort the ystem as it was supposed to work, and they allow the side pick to get away with things.ds of nd i think there's still hope for the press. i think it is possible that some it'sem will recognize that lmost a sacred obligation that they have to the people, to be honest. last week,ust in the you know, in my own case, you that ihey take something say about the shootings in
the part d don't put in where i was answering the question. don't put the question in. and say, the response see, he's being critical of the people. is that a lot of the people in america are onto them and understand what they're trying to do, and that's one of the reasons we're doing well and it seems like the more they do, k me, the better we because people expect that, you know. last week, you know, 'm leaving a press conference, getting ready to get on a bus and the reporter says can you do me what you're going to about the hurricanes? i said, goodbye, i don't know. day, carson next wants to be president, has no idea what to do about hurricanes. i mean, you know, this is the insincerity that we see, and it really is kind of embarrassing to see that. and it happens on the other side too.
u 's not just on one side, yo know. i was doing an interview with wolf blitzer yesterday, and he was asking about renewal of the voting rights act, and you i want renewal of the voting rights act or at aspect of it that protects all americans' rights to vote. it's a much longer conversation about what needs to before it is renewed. something poidz basedtions 50 or 60 years ago. on conditions 50 or 60 years ago. a lot of things have changed that time. e certainly don't want to empower the department of justice that the older based ent of justice did on that bill. so everything needs to be looked at in its con. and when news media pick one phrase and they run with it and they try to
characterize people like that, i've got to tell you guys, that's why people don't trust you anymore. there with re down used car salesmen. applause] so what is it going to take to save our country? courage. it's going to take courage by press, us, including the and we have to begin to think behind us. who come because what would have happened those looking at us, if e little chicken livers, they weren't willing to take risks. hat if on d-day, our soldiers invading the beaches of normandy ad seen their colleagues being cut down, 100 bodies laying in
sand, 1,000 bodies laying in the sand. what if they had been frightened back?rned i guarantee you, they weren't frightened, but they didn't turn back. they stepped over the bodies of knowing in gues, many cases that they would never see their homeland or their loved ones again, and they troops, andse access they took that beach, and they died died. that?id they do they didn't do it for themselves. they id it for you, and did it for me. and now it's our turn. nd what are we willing to do for our children and for our grandchildren. are we really to stand up?
are we afraid that somebody's nasty name?l us a or that we're going to get an irs audit? or that somebody's going to mess with our job? you know, we have a lot less to and the they did, people who are always telling me hang in there, don't let them me, do not worry about it, because the stakes are much too high. thank you very much. [applause] carson.k you, dr. many questions, including many
policy.ns about foreign we have president putin syria supporting the assad regime, and this we learned that the president of the united states is ending the program for anti-assad rebels. how would you as president situation, syrian what actions would you take? ben carson: well, i think it's a very serious situation, and i simply be nnot passive in a situation like this. know, when russian generals us, you know, we don't want you guys flying in this area, my response to him would be go take a flying leap. we'll fly anywhere we want to. but i think we ought to be establishing our own no-fly zone in conjunction with turkey. recognizek we need to
th that, why is he really there? he said he was coming there to fight isis. been fighting isis al-nusra and al-jurani and everybody opposing assad? that's real thing and you'll see a lot of help g from the supreme leader of iran. there? going on these relationships are complex. some people are a little surprised when i indicated that utin actually have a long-term relationsh relationship, as does amoud abas. amas and kobani were in the same class and patrice lamumba graduatingin moscow, class of '68, and they were
lready quite familiar with young vladimir putin at that time. that putin is very now because oil prices are very low. hat's really been precluding his expansionist activities and not us. believe me. it's the economic situation. now, we can get a foot hold in doesn't begin to spread his influence throughout he can gain and if ontrol of significant energy reserves, he might then be able control on ch more enterprises throughout the that will then embolden him because he will strengthened to do what he needs to do. we need to fight him everywhere. resaebiestablishing the
missile defense system in eastern europe, supplying arms ukraine. we said we're going to protect up.m if we gave them did we gave them up? of course not. we turned our back on israel. of the think the rest world is sitting backidely reneged on our responsibilities. we need to oppose him every step and take advantage of his economic weakness by using our wise ic strength in very ways. >> the house is looking for a a reporter and there's that mitt romney called paul yan and urged him to run for speaker. is paul ryan the guy? should he run for speaker? how would you t, work with congress to end the grid lock that's defined often?ton so paul ryan is fine,
i like him. like a lot of people in congress. i hope the process plays up. of people a number will present their philosophy for leadership and that this is an opportunity for the members of congress to see who they want leader, ith as their and what i would do, i would policy of talking. you know, the current administration doesn't talk a lot to the people in congress, not even to their own party. how can you come to resolutions without talking? before people get divorced? they stop talking. he next thing you know, their spouse is the devil incarnate. that's what we're saying. basically want the united states to succeed. we have different philosophies about how that's going to be done. but i think if we're really to sit down and talk about it, then we find that we're not nearly as
far apart as we think we are. we do have to keep the instigators out and the people who tried to irritate and agitate, you know, a good xample of that is, you know, a few weeks ago when i was on i et the press" and i said, think anybody from any religion or any background who is willing values and is willing to put our constitution above their belief system is acceptable to me. i don't know why that is a difficult subject for people to understand. whose belief system conform to our constitution and who is not willing to put that in our constitution, why would that person be a leader of this country? that doesn't make any sense. applause] >> in your first three months in
office, what would be different and how will the people know it? ben carson: well, first of all, joint sessionor a of congress, and i would want carson know that under a administration, we recognize that the people are at the penicle, and that we work for them, and they don't work for us. and we have to also begin to understand that we are americans first and democrats and republicans second. or maybe even third. we have to stop fighting each other. because one of the things that i hink threatens to destroy our nation, is the extreme gotten ness, and we've to the point where if somebody disagrees with you, then you need to try to destroy them, destroy their family and their livelihood. come from.hat
i guarantee you, it did not come judeo-christian values. applause] >> as president, who would you want as chairman in the federal reserve and/or what kind of qualities do you want in that? ben carson: honesty and common sense would be good starters. and that's not to say that we haven't had such people. like janet yellen. i served on the board with her. decent purpose and i think she's trying very hard. but you've got to realize we've put the feds in a very difficult position, because of the amount of debt that we've accumulated. it's very hard for the feds to allow interest rates to rise to an 18 nable level with plus trillion dollar national debt.
the debt service with an interest rate pressed almost to $250 billion a year. can you imagine what it would be allowed the interest rates levels?to their normal so we need to be working on driving that debt down and i about how that can be done, and that can have a and someerating effect freedom for the fed. but the other thing is i would like to see somebody who understands that we can't just print money based on the good name and faith and credit of the united states of america. decoupled, you 1933, and 1971 from the gold standard. it doesn't have are to be gold. there are other things it can be oupled to, but we need to have some responsible underline to what we do. big think it would make a
difference. >> you mentioned your comments on "meet the press" and i've gotten several questions from he audience about related to that. questioner says, there are muslims serving in our united states military, police forces, in our courts, school boards, city councils, so on and so forth. o how is it okay for a muslim to serve and die in the military to defend their values or for a the to uphold constitution, even though the faith of those individuals are incompatible with the constitution they are sworn to protect and uphold? ben carson: again, a good understanding of the constitution answers that you ion for you, because we'ret the article 2, and talking about requirements for the president.
and they have to be a natural-born citizen. why is that the case? i'm sure if you had gone to the founders and said, but what about this person? hey may not be a natural-born citizen, but they've been in america for most of their lives, know, they're fine upstanding citizen, they've served in the military, came back, were on the police force. president? be the and they would have said no. don't -- you don't want to take the slight chance that in that put someone position who had different loyalties. that's the answer to your question. > question about your opposition to obama care, and the question along the lines of doctor and obviously
all the parts of medical care aren important to you, of the tive care, many things obama care provides, so how is your value of the doctors people getting healthcare squares with program that this has given so many access to healthcare? ben carson: i'll have to do bits of that. first of all, the reason that i don't like the so-called affordable care act, not because it doesn't work, and not because affordable. the real reason is because it flies in the face of the very principles for the establishment country. this country was supposed to be people, withby the the government there to facilitate life, library, and of happiness. with that act, the government comes along and says, i don't
think.hat you people this is what we're doing, we're cramming it down your throat, if bad.on't like it, too that is antithetical, of the cynical f people being and the government there to service. it basically flips the relationship and puts the the driver's seat with us at its beck and call. do that with the most important thing you have, your health and your healthcare, it's not long before they can do it with every aspect of your ife and it begins the fundamental changing of america, and that's why i want to stop it around.racks, turn it i think most people did not recognize what was happening. restore to once again the people to the pennacle. having said that, i do want everybody to have good care. who i am.istent with i've talked about a healthcare system. but let me just talk about the part for the indigent. how do we take care of the indigent now?
have medicaid, 4 to $500 billion a year. how many people participate? about a quarter of the population, which is way too we can the way, and address that by how do we get the economy rolling again. but if 80 million into $400 times, 5,000,,000 child on woman and medicaid. what could you buy with that? fall ons yerj practices between 2 and 3,000 a year. on the consierge practice and still have money left over for the catastrophic, which is much cheaper because there's something else we've done with that that i don't have time to explain. i'm not saying that we do that, that we have enough money to do that. what's the result of that? the diabetic has foot ulcer, he's not going to go to the emergency room where it
costs five times more, he'll go to the clinic where he gets the same treatment. patching him up, he'll say mr. jones, get your you'res under control so not back in three weeks with another problem. a whole nother level of savings, personal teaching him responsibility rather than dependency. those are the kinds of things that we should be doing that would cost us a lot less money and everybody would be of equal people you won't have saying, i don't want to see them. go to the emergency room. cost us less money. that's the kind of thing we i have received several questions from the audience about guns and your comments about the holocaust and if jews have been able to protect had been ablejews to protect themselves, there
would not have been a holocaust. i will let you clarify on that. the whole approach on mass , if you have more people armed, could that stop more of these mass shootings? dr. ben carson: the whole comment on the holocaust, that again is just the left-wing press trying to stir up controversy and that is just what they do, but basically what i said is that when you're in the occurs traditionally around the world, they try to disarm the people first. and that is exactly what happened in germany. in the mid to late 30's, they started the program of disarming the people, and by the mid-40's, look at what had happened. it has happened in another -- and i number of other countries as well. daniel webster said that people have not been imprisoned in america because we are armed.