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government, record deficits, government shutdown, and what happened? this was the 1990's. we had john kasich who negotiated and balanced a budget agreement with a democratic administration and got a strong vote out of congress and led to four years of balanced budgets. ,e did not just talk about it he did it. our agenda says the goal of balancing the government's budget by 2030. our next speaker from there he left congress after a collision -- from left undefeated there he left congress a coalition and came back as governor of ohio. they were running deficits. ladies and gentlemen join me to welcome the governor from ohio, john kasich. [applause]
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tom davis: you are between jim and dinner. -- you were between them and dinner. the last one is always in the best. [applause] : you came into ohio, times,ck tough economic what did you -- tough economic times, what did you do to turn it around? gov. kasich:: let me tell you is started when i was a kid. senatelected to the ohio after the aged 20's is promising no taxes. and it two years in, the republicans won a majority and decide to raise taxes. i said i would not do it and
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they called me irresponsible which is what they call you. i wrote my own budget. that was the first time it happened at 28. i had people sneaking into my office saying how we could clean everything up. i locked but i made a big statement and we had really good ideas. and for thengress first six years i served on the defense committee but six years in i was elected to go the budget committee and went to my first budget committee meeting. not going very well. i was not replace -- i was not impressed by the republican budget or democrat budget. i was at a gas station complaining about it and walked around the corner and said if you do not like what is happening, what are you going to do about it? i flew to washington met with my staff and i set we are want to write a budget for the country. there are 100 people in the white house and 100 people and willie how six.
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i said yeah what if we stay out of each other's way, we can get it done. in 1989, my first budget in washington. against me and5 a 30 for me. i say it is fantastic. 29 other people who think we can run the country. othert offered my proposals. my third budget, i got more votes for my budget than president bush got. it does not matter if it is democrat or republican. i've moved up and became the senior republican and wrote about 18 budgets in my lifetime. i joined with tim penny to take a penny out of every dollar to cut spending and we were opposed by hillary, the white house. she was literally lobbying. and we got very close within a five votes.
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and as then i became the chairman of the budget committee and continued to work and build a bigger and bigger team taking on all of these tough issues. architect.e chief the last time we balanced the budget for the first time since a man walked on the moon. we have not done it since with a $5 trillion surplus we paid down the debt. the other thing you should all know. tom alluded to it. i want to be governor of ohio and we are $18 billion and the whole. 20% of our general revenue fund and i to the practices from washington? and what are they gold do the job they do not worry about who will scream -- go do the job and do not work on who will scream as something people will accept. you just have to make choices and be as creative as you possibly can. $8 billion in the hole and
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everybody said raise taxes. if you ever restaurant and do not have customers, you do not reason the prices. ohio, we went from $8 billion in the hole and today $2 billion in surplus. we are up 347,000 jobs. solid with our credit. no phony baloney in this budget. by $5 have cut taxes billion. even in washington, not only do them for program to reduce our overhead but cut our prices and reduce the taxes on capital and provided a family to rallyust have people to get behind something
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for the good other than themselves. and i will give you one little story. in our state, medicaid when i came in was growing at 10%. in my second budget it grew at 2.5% it would do not have one single person off the role or cut one benefit. how do you do that? one of the groups i had a fight was the nursing home industry. they had and they basically had called everything in ohio for many years. i am not against nursing homes but skyhigh reimbursement rates and i want to mom and dad to stay in their home if they can't rather than being forced into a nursing home. and these technology industry was very angry at me. as h right to keep me from being -- and theythey were angry at me and try to keep it for being elected and they fought me.
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to a medicaid go from 10% to 2.5% without taking anybody off the rolls, people liked it. would you go about doing this, everything doesn't have to be slash and burn. the most effective way to serve the customer. and by subway on thursday, this thursday, i am going to be , a frameworklan that will be more and more sophisticated as time goes on that deals with spending and .iscal discipline and budgets being able to provide economic growth in a variety of ways and this will come thursday. i will make a speech in nashville. we love to have you there. it will give us a roadmap, a roadmap of what john kasich would do if i am elected president. it will be comprehensive. yet, you can clap area go ahead. i like that. [applause]
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gov. kasich: so -- a lot of people talk about doing it but you have to know how to do it. you have to put teams of people together, you have to tell them pay no attention to special interest groups. you can listen to them and if they have a legitimate objection, that is fine. they do not call the tune. nobody who gives you money, you cannot play that game. the moment you come off of the high moral ground which is the issue we need to do this for our kids and our country and for our state. when you do that, people can accept by and large what you are doing. if all of a sudden, uncle joe gets a sweetheart deal. joe lieberman or anybody else gets a certain deal then what happens is people say, wise him and not me? -- why is him and not me?
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it is difficult and challenging but doable. you want to get there by 2030? that is too long. [applause] gov. kasich: that is too long. i think you can get there before 2030. and a sense of all of this come thursday. but that is not necessary. that is not a necessary thing to do. eight you have to deal with entitlements. medicaid, medicare and ultimately, like with social security, that will have to be done over time with republicans and democrats are really working together. the problem is if you try to reform these entitlement programs and do not have some members of both parties participating come you probably -- it probably will not happen. if you go back to the clinton years and we forced them to
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balance the budget, i am sorry joe, clinton is a skilled politician. if there is a ride in front of him, he calls it a parade. he had people that wanted to get this done. when we did it with both parties participating, nobody screamed about medicare, nobody screamed about medicaid, or welfare reform which was another significant thing we did. once,- in war, you die churchill said. in politics, you can die 10 or 15 times per you look at my friend from ohio. how many times did you die in politics? many. that is what you have to do print shoot for the stars. have big ideas. be imaginative and look in every way to get it done. i've to tell you, folks. if you do not have a balanced never amendment, you will be up to do it consistently.
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we need a balanced budget amendment to the constitution to force politicians to do what we did. [applause] gov. kasich: some of you are not clapping about that but i can take if we do not have a bullet -- balanced budget requirement in ohio, i do not think we would be balance. it forces people to be responsible. it would be great, it would be wonderful if we did a naturally. but i am not some -- you know, somebody living and leica will be gone. if you are the requirements, i left washington. -- lake woebegone. i went home to ohio and my buddy said now that your friends are leaving, they will spend it all. i said that is impossible. you cannot spend $5 trillion. you have to work to spend it all. it was all gone enabling of a i.
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we could views and that $5 trillion to provide 2% private account for all of the young people in the country funded out of the surplus. it was gone. why was it gone? with the sames state. they want to spend money and somebody has to stand and say we cannot do that. just like a mom and dad stance of the breach with members of their family want to spend money they do not have. you have to do that and a constitutional amendment is vital. ok. tom davis: governor, we will take questions. we have about 15 mins for questions. getting those jobs in ohio, a tough time. what did you do different? gov. kasich: we privatized our economic development. to makeofit entity and a long story short, they get about $108 a year, liquor retail
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and with hired people that can talk to business people. we look at ohio and figure out which of the areas of ohio we could sell diversity. we have cloud computing i.t., financial services, energy, steel andvices, manufacturing. we are a diverse state different from how you thought about ohio. i talked to the ceos. when you balance budgets and cut taxes and you as the ceo understands business, i am the ceo of ohio. you convince people to close the. and that is how we are up to 347,000 jobs. it is about understanding how businesses work and they decide things and make sure the government goes from attacks to as spending a regulatory, that is another thing that is crushing her company.
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-- our country. it has to be common sense. if you can in fact that a budget were headed towards it, reduce the taxes, particularly businesses in america now. having the highest corporate tax rate, we need to get the money here. people should be invested in america. and get a regulatory regime going the right way. shouldthese trade deals not be a good deal or bad deal but improved. and when we give violated because companies taking advantage, will staff an expedited process that does not drag on a four years. -- so much of workforce development. if you cannot balance a budget
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and control your spending, businesses will go somewhere else. too high, theyre will go somewhere else. the proof is in the pudding. we were dead in ohio. and now we are alive. not only alive but the rising. and it is great. as a result, and no one has been left behind. i mean if you are the mentally ill, drug addicted, working poor, with program. -- we have a program for you. it allows you to do so many wonderful things for the public. thank you. first question? thank you for being here. you may be the first republican i might vote for an evening campaign for. gov. kasich: why don't we take the mic out a it would be perfect? [laughter] this -- i am fiscally conservative and socially liberal.
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it seems every person i seem to meet, what i do not understand is the focus on what i would consider it to be social issues and the economic impact of planned parenthood. i am sorry, it is not significant. i said earlier to donald trump, it is like a deck chair one he's trying to reach -- rearrange on the titanic. the most imprisoned drug society in the world. i'm looking for trying to understand the thinking. where are you really going to focus? gov. kasich: our recidivism rate in ohio is almost half the national average the we are treating the drug addict and a prisons and releasing them in the community. the recidivism rate is less than 20%. we are giving people chance to get on their feet so they can become productive citizens.
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planned parenthood, i do not care what your position. we need to have family planning a brush and not be done by those. they went too far. it does not mean we do not do family planning. there's a lot of [indiscernible] which allows a mom and dad to support -- saint about the support of family. it is so important. think about a dad that goes home and i because my dad carried mill on his back. wind blew the runway, my dad had to go home and said i lost my job today. things will change. think about how great it is when mom and dad goes home and particularly the single mom and says i have a better job or a raise or things are going great. we can celebrate. go out to dinner. maybe get a shrimp cocktail. we have to focus on economic
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growth. that does not mean the moral issues do not matter. as they do matter. we have to get the country moving from the standpoint of the stronger economic growth, helping families, training workers, comments is regulation. one other thing -- we need to begin to transfer power, money, and -- and influence back to where we live. sendo we have -- why do we gas tax money to washington so they can skim it off the top and send less back? why don't we keep it here and take care of our own infrastructure and -- [applause] gov. kasich: we can send a couple of pennies for the interstate but we're not building any more interstates. we should keep our money to solve our problems. will not a lot face and ourselves. wareed to systematically,
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on a thursday, systematically began to move programs -- more on the thursday, systemax began to move programs over we take responsibility. have to be responsible with what we do with the programs. in little bit about the things i think about. and i will give you a gold star. -- mike out and i would give you all go star. on social security, in 1999i wrote a plan that would have kept our seniors and change the wages and prices to one of the entities which meant we would've our initialon benefit in overtime saves a ton of money. the young people would have a 2% private account. i left washington and as a did nothing for 16 or 17 years. we are deeper in the hole. you have to gather up all of the
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plants the air -- plans everybody has and consider it and get on the table and get republicans and democrats to hold hands and agree to solidify. it has to be done. in terms of medicare, i will more to say on a thursday. when you think about what we did with medicaid in ohio, and like the similarities about what we can do. more to say on thursday without getting into it. you cannot get a balanced budget if you do not deal with entitlement programs. you have to deal with them. i've dealt with them throughout my career. i think i've written 18 budgets in my lifetime. is not a mystery as to what i will do. it is not a confusion about what i might do. we will give you more. thursday, we will give you a framework that will be increasingly filled out. we will address social security,
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the specifics of that probably later but deal with medicaid, medicare, defense spending, all of it and give your framework as to what it means. i hope you will come. come on thursday in nashua. >> where is nashua? gov. kasich: i do not know. does anybody know? where is the event? the community college? good. and by the way, we're putting together plans for dealing with the cost increases in our universities and colleges using a businesslike processes. i will give you one. why do these colleges and universities have nonacademic aspects we have to pay money to support? why don't they get rid of them and let somebody else run them? universities do with
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as supposed to do, academics. reasons why i got more to politix is i went to a local budget meeting. one of the things if it is going up $200,000. i said what more are we going to get? i get lambasted about why am question. every time i hear budget, what i want to know is what are we getting for it? how do we know we are getting better services for the same money all of the time? i'm struggling at the local level so i get it will be a gazillion times higher at the federal. we need the analysis and what we are getting at what are we getting for everything we are spending. that discussion does not get out to the people. -- yousich: look understand and taking an $8 billion hole in ohio and turning
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it into a surplus and taking hundreds of billions of dollars worth of deficits and a rising national debt and get it into a balance and paying down big chunks of the publicly held debt. we do not do that without good analysis. frankly, i will tell you there -- i domany, too much not want to say this but i will say it. we do not need to have all of those entities operating in washington. when i was in congress, we try to kill the commerce department. they have valuable things that go on in it but basically inadequate political junkies were kids go to work after successful election. we got too much of because well as much they do not do well. when joe and i were in washington and you wanted a family, go to the white house are you -- the white house.
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jump over the fence. you, if youtell think you can make those questions without aggravating people, you are wrong. you have got to be tough. ourhave got to tell them town will lose jobs. our taxes will be too high for small business. thel businesses created jobs. in a little town you keep raising taxes or have a building code group that mrs. so hard for so -- for puke open their doors, the -- code group that makes it so hard for people to open their doors as they are going somewhere else. you have to question people as they what are you going to get for it. they will not like it. over time, they will respect you. there was a group of people. we took everybody on. on.ook them all i've been involved in reforming
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the pentagon. you know what it is like to be more repost the reform the pentagon as stop the development of the b-2 bomber? when it is $1 billion, do know how hard it is? you have to do it. you're not end of this to win a popularity contest but to be an adult and make decisions, to advance of the country. [applause] when you get really frustrated, give me a call. i will buck you up. they don't hate you. just bothering them. they will respect you over time. the public -- leadership is walking a lonely road. and as hard as you work that fat, you will find if you know what you are doing, probably do, you'll find where people that would take to your side. -30.irst budget was 405
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my second budget was more than what george bush got. make sure your ideas are creative, innovative, and different. people will come to you. they may sneak up to you. you have anybody telling you on the sly, that's probably a good question? is that happening? a few. keep at it. [applause] tom davis: one more question right here. hi, i am from manchester, new hampshire. i have a very specific question for you. can you give us an example when you were working to solve an important problem specific example of a compromise that you made that up until that point you previously did not think you are willing to compromise on? gov. kasich: a good question.
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when i was working to limit the protection of the b-2 and dick cheney called me up and said i will make an agreement with you to go to 20 and i was working with ron on this, a liberal democrats. i said let me check with my partner. he said i am against it. i said i have to go to 20. a reasonable proposal, yes, we can do this. ithink compromise is part of but you can never compromise beyond what you cannot look yourself in the eye. look, you are looking at all of these candidates. thisnot in this -- i am in to fix the country. i am not in this so i can have some great election. that's why i'm not going to tell you something you want to hear. the lady back here said if you were change -- i am not changing. i will listen to you. i am not unconvinced on a
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different issue. my -- to try it i am a flawed man. try to do the best thing to improve our nation. when i am done, i am happy. and that's what i want to be through this campaign. if i get elected, best i can to navigate. compromise is part of it. just do not compromise beyond your pretzels. i will give you an area i would not compromise. i am not for more revenue. i am not for more revenue because this is an economical thing. frankly, i know what they do in washington. why do i want to give them more revenue? anytime you do a deal, all they do is take the revenue and never get is the cut and come up with phony baloney plans like sequester that all gets changed at the end of the day. lesson balance -- let's balance the budget and get it done.
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this is our kids that will pay the price for it. [applause] look -- i cannot remember anything really specifically. i can sit down with pete and negotiate a federal budget without having to give on something. stands out atg me. i cannot do everything i wanted. who gets everything they but never give up your fundamental principles. that is as well as i can answer it. >> we have time for one more question. in the back. >> thank you for being here. i'm from new hampshire. i know you chose me because he wanted the voice of the college student -- i'm a sophomore. my question is about gun control. when the president says that it is routine now, in his responses
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to the questions, it is too much, what do we do about gun control when there is almost a gun for every man, woman, and child in the country? there are too many guns. they end up in the hands of the people we don't want them in. title effects that? do we take guns away? kasich: first of all, we are not going to take their guns away -- it is the second amendment. the let us a couple things -- there are laws that are on the books -- i will give you a couple -- here at a gun show they are supposed to do instant check. the bust do it. you want to sell something in a parking lot, you are held accountable if you sell somebody and didn't check out who they were. states, there are many that are not keeping the mental health records that need to be capped and entered into a database so people who have mental illness can get guns. i'm glad you asked because i will talk about something i want you to think about.
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we are focusing on the gun. let's talk about the people. person, this guy who committed the mass murder in oregon -- it was his mother. he and his mother. where was dad? where were his brother or sister combo where was his neighbor? . ,re there too many -- folks have marriages eroded? the relationship with our neighbors? what has happened to the neighborhood? we are all really our neighbors keeper. responsibility to live a life bigger than ourselves. it is about justice and healing -- and who is helping this woman?
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this is something the government could have done -- there was not an emergency bed for his son so he took his son home and the next day a tragedy occurred where he was stabbed and his son is gone. why did we have the beds? is it because we run over people who we don't understand? what are we doing to help one another? we are spending a lot of our time worrying about who is going to the president, and that is great. but the case quiz -- but the country is not built for the top-down. we heard the pope the other day about the power of family. about all of us being connected. the laws on guns should be enforced. i think we can respect the second amendment. but what about the other things that we are not doing, that could have averted some of these tragedies? what are we doing to think about
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the things that we as a society can do, sometimes without government, to make sure that our neighborhoods are stronger, so that people don't live alone? that mother could not control her son. she had nowhere to go. a week ago i went to a place called hope house. it was in iowa. i think i know why they took me there -- it is a house for women who have gotten to the edge of falling apart. a beautiful place, wonderful people. why is this here? because there is nowhere for people to go now. we are isolated, we are alone too much of the time. i amf my jobs, if president, is to think about a way we can reunite the spirit of who we are as americans. need to reignite that,
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endorse that model of strong families and strong neighborhoods, and living a life beyond ourselves. we have responsibility that way. that even in some ways takes us back to the budget. if you are going to be elected to public service, if you are going to go and serve, do your job. don't worry about reelection, just go do your job, and you will get reelected. just ask lieberman, who fought everybody down there. you did win, didn't you? yeah. you can lead and you can win, and you know what question mark you can feel good about yourself, even if you don't win. over the long haul, that is where the treasure is. thank you very much. [applause] ♪
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later, john kasich takes audience questions at a town hall meeting in bow, new hampshire. live coverage begins at 12:30 eastern. christie talks about marijuana laws, education, and social security. the new jersey republicans spoke at the no labels conference in manchester, new hampshire. [applause] >> thank you very much. thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen, and fellow problem solvers. no labels is in part about forging consensus and building bridges, so i would like to ask a question that may bring us together with the person i'm about to introduce.
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do we all like bruce priest in your today? -- bruce springsteen here today? [cheering] >> there we go. one of the reasons we tend to more often than not elect governors president in our country is because governors have to do things. they have to solve problems. they have to deliver results. i remember as a newly elected democratic governor in my home state, first democrat in 20 years, one of the first things i did was pick up the phone and call governor terry branstad, republican in iowa. i have heard about some of the interesting initiatives he put into place in his state to improve the efficiency of government. we shared ideas, we shared solutions -- there was no plate of authorship. conservatives working together to try and deliver the results of the people of our state. that is what governors tend to do. [applause] i had a republican state
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legislature for all eight years -- i knew we had to work together if we were going to get anything done. we didn't agree on everything -- sometimes we struggled. but i've the end of the day, we produced for the state of indiana. expanded health care, more funding for schools, higher environmental standards. the man i have about to introduce has had a similar experience in new jersey, working with the legislature of the other political party throughout his time in office. they worked together to try and grow new jersey's economy. they worked together to deal with significant fiscal problems. and when sandy blew through and damage the shoreline in new jersey, endangering the people economy,tate iand this man embrace president obama because he knew they had to work together, for the betterment of the people of the state. [applause] that didn't give it a great on everything, that didn't mean they were political allies,
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but he knew that what mattered was the welfare of the folks who put them both in power. that is what mattered most. so i ask you to join with me in giving a rousing welcome to the governor of the state of new jersey, a man who is known in a no label spirit, young americans are hungry for straight talk, candor, governor christie is known for that -- if him a warm no labels welcome, the governor of the state of new jersey. [applause] ♪
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gov. christie: good afternoon, good afternoon. i am not going to give any speech to this group -- is as a group that knows what they want to talk about, knows what they want to hear about. i am much better giving you the time to ask me questions. no speech, let's start with questions. [cheering] [applause] gov. christie: this guy knows what he is doing. on the night the mets are hosting their first baseball team in nine years, he puts a mets hat on, to get a mets fan the first question. you got it. smart guy. [laughter] some of going to bring a microphone?
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just yell it. >> [indiscernible] gov. christie: i will repeat the question. >> [indiscernible] gov. christie: ok. the question was -- he said that my views on marijuana are well-known, and that in the spirit of bipartisanship, he wants to know if i would be willing to meet halfway on recreational men gro marijuana. in the spirit of bipartisanship, no. [laughter] gov. christie: here's why. reason -- a loss in this country matter. they matter. when we have lawlessness in this country, we have a situation
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feel like they can pick and choose which laws they like and which ones they don't. if we are ignoring the law that you don't like, you are probably pretty happy. the moment we ignore the law you do like all of a sudden we have a big problem. i say to folks who want to legalize migration of marijuana, go to congress and get a president who will legalize it and sign it. that is the way we do these things, not by letting states go off road, and decide for themselves, we just want to follow the law. this is where i have the biggest problem. we don't have folks who are respecting the law. so why is it that the people of new jersey have to follow the law that says there is no recreational marijuana, but people in washington state, they don't have to? and doesn't make any sense. that is the kind of philosophical reason. but the bigger reason, from a
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policy perspective, for me, is that it is a bad idea. i believe it is a bad idea because every study i have seen shows that marijuana is a if you walk, and around to the state or many other states that i have been in including my own, we have enormous drug abuse problems. and norm's drug abuse problems that we don't need to be adding to. [applause] gov. christie: i would say, let's focus our attention on treatment of those folks who have the diseases, try to give them the tools they need to reclaim their lives. let's not focus on those other issues. in the spirit of bipartisanship, no. [applause] gov. christie: on the aisle. >> governor christie -- gov. christie: no, this young lady. but i will get to you. >> hi, governor christie. i am a proud citizen of new jersey. gov. christie: there we go.
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[applause] >> has a college student, an issue that is important to me and a large network of students i represent is global health, specifically funding for aids. i know you are a big proponent of bipartisanship, and this is a definitely bipartisan issue. im wondering if you would be willing to make a commitment already made by senator clinton and mr. trump today to work to double the number of people on aids treatment around the world to 30 million by 2020, a path that would prepare us for an aids regeneration. gov. christie: sure. [applause] gov. christie: i will answer the question directly -- yes. and let me tell you why. you are right that it is a bipartisan issue, and it was made bipartisan by president george w. bush. i am extraordinarily proud of that president and what he did, to say that this type of disease, running rampant through know of the world, when we that there was an ability to ,reat it and make people better
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immoral. the american people have a responsibility -- that is who we are. we have a way to help others who are suffering and we are a group that stands up and helps. [applause] absolutely.e: i will join a commitment. it is not only the right thing to do, it is the smart thing to do. a healthier african continent in particular is going to be better for world peace and stability, and we should be shooting for that. that is clearly one of the ways we can do it. [applause] gov. christie: let's go over to the side. right there in the middle, waving your hand. yes, sir. >> [indiscernible] [laughter] gov. christie: it is a feel thing. >> my question is this. everyone says that the best way
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to deal with public school education is to go back and let the districts handle the educational levels themselves, to a nation at risk, all of the local school districts how to over their school systems. some of them were decent and some of them were abysmal. do you really feel it is in the nation's best interest, in this technological age, that it is far more important to the united states, to the government, an issue of national security that we have the highest level of education? everybody says no child left behind was bad, and whatever else is bad. how would you look at this to be
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assured that every kid has the opportunity to have a world-class education. [applause] gov. christie: all right. first off, i agree with the premise of your question, that education is not only a human rights issue by the national security issue. it's both. but i also agree that as we have watched the educational system evolve that we are much better off having these decisions made at the local level. i don't believe there is anybody who cares more about a child's education than their parents. we can always find exceptions to that rule, and there are kids who do not live in stable homes, who don't have the appropriate adult influence and i will talk about that. in america, the people who care the most about child educations are their mother in their father. i want the educational decisions made by those two people, and i want to give them
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as much choice in their ability to educate their child as they can possibly have. that means everything from private andg to parochial schools, to charter and renaissance public schools, to regular public schools. i am a regular public school guy. i feel like they served me extraordinarily well. was nine a woman who of 10 children -- he was one of nine. when we got married and had children, i thought they should go to public school. she thought they should go to parochial school. so all four of our children go to parochial school -- [laughter] gov. christie: and it has served them extraordinarily well. it served me extraordinarily well. i think parents should be making these choices and i think they should be making their choices
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regardless of their economic ability to effectuate those choices. we should not be making these decisions based on if you have enough money. it is what do you believe in your heart is the best way for your child to be educated. believes, and she has brought me around to the belief, for our kids, that she wanted them having their religious education, and joined with their academic education. it is not the choice everyone wants to make, but i like those choices being made close to the local level, and curricular choices made close to the local level. because then if the curriculum is going off the rails, you have the ability to go to your local school board and raise hell. and if it is happening at the federal part of education, good luck. not can happen. you will not have the same ability to affect it. that is why i am now on the side of making those choices at the local level. but acknowledging those questions that there is no perfect way to do it -- that is adultrental and
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involvement, keeping an eye on our schools, is a responsibility that requires vigilance. if we are not doing it, we only have ourselves to blame for the education our kids are getting, because we are certainly spending enough money but we are not getting the results we need. [laughter] gov. christie: let's go up to the bleachers. this guy with the glasses. >> hello, governor christie. i'm too from new jersey. gov. christie: you know we don't say it like that. [laughter] >> i'm a big fan of yours. we here at no labels really aimed to reform our broken political system to make our country progress for the good of the american people. my question for you is if you
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are elected as our next president, but specifically will you do to help us reform our broken political system? [applause] lenny say this, i have a fundamental disagreement with the premise of your question. i don't think it is the system, i think it is the people. [applause] as is the same system we have had for a long time stop it ca. this can work. but compromises not capitulation. right now we have an attitude that says if you are willing to compromise, you are a capitulate or. that is not the case, it is not the case at all. so first we have to talk about the idea that people have to make the decision. i have a democratic legislature. so i wake up every morning knowing that they are not looking to make it a good day for me. we don't agree on a whole lot,
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and it is not like every morning we say -- how can we make the governor happy? in washington that use that as an excuse to do nothing. they don't agree with me, they don't like me, i don't like them. if that is what i said in the last six years -- if i had done that in new jersey, we wouldn't have had property taxes and we went have cut spending. we went have kept taxes lower. we went have reformed teacher tenure. everything that i wanted in those areas i didn't get. but i got more of what i wanted them what i didn't want. and i had to give a little bit to the other side to get them to come on board. i got pension and benefit reform sponsored by the democratic senate president, who was the president of the ironworkers local. that is called compromise. that is called working together.
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i don't believe the system is broken. i don't believe the system is broken. what i believe is that the people we have employed to run it has broken their promise and their were to the american people. what i would do going into washington is the same thing i did in trenton. when a had to stand up and fight, i did. i vetoed 400 bills, more than any governor in new jersey history. i vetoed more tax increases than any governor in american history. all those have been sustained. so i fight. but i also have room in the statehouse where i bring the members of the legislature, the leadership, to sit and talk and reason. and we can argue outside in public but when we get in that room it is time to do business. get business done for the people of the state of new jersey. the only way you do that is to build relationships. that is the last part -- we don't make anything, we don't create anything, we govern. that is all you do when you are elected these positions.
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you don't make personal relationships with the people on both sides of the aisle, then it is never been a work. they won't trust you ever because they don't know you. the best bit of political advice i ever got was from a non-politician in a nonpolitical setting. i was the u.s. attorney in new jersey, he was the deputy attorney general of the united states, and he had been my colleague. he is now the director of the fbi, jim komi. he came to visit me as my boss and when he was leaving i said -- what are you doing next? he said, i'm going to "the new york times" editorial board. i said, your john ashcroft's deputy. you are going to "the new york times," do you have a death wish? he said -- you don't understand. i am going to their editorial board because it is harder to hate up close. [laughter] gov. christie: it is extraordinarily good political advice, everybody. [applause] gov. christie: it is harder to hate up close, much harder.
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all right. this gentleman on the aisle. >> governor christie, i'm from iowa. hopefully you know where iowa is. gov. christie: i have come to learn that! >> we have seen you there. a simple question i hope. why would any presidential candidate in any of the 535 representatives and senators ofr be opposed to four goals no labels that are supported in the super majority by republicans, democrats, and independents. can you give a reason why they would be opposed to any of those goals? [applause] steve,ristie: listen -- you are in very dangerous territory because now you are trying to impute logic. [laughter] gov. christie: be very, very careful about that.
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lesson -- i wouldn't -- listen, i when be here today if i didn't think this places goals were achievable. otherwise i would be someplace else. [applause] gov. christie: but remember too that every leader brings a unique skill set and approach to their job. when you seetimes me going in one direction or another and you think, no, the target is over here, and my method to getting to the target may be to go this way and in that way. that is why trust is so important in this also. there has to be a sense of trust that you develop with the people you represent. you are not always going to be able -- nor will they listen to every method you will employ, but let's agree on the goals. let's agree and get organizations who care. i will try you this -- if i hear one more -- i want to turn off
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the news, with all the stuff going on in washington, with who is going to be the speaker of the house, who cares? [applause] gov. christie: quite frankly, whether it is a democratic speaker or a republican speaker, they don't get anything done. i watch the shows this weekend and i heard more talk about -- it was going to decide the committee chairs, who will decide whether they can be free and open amendments, is going to decide -- you know what i wanted what most of you want? however they just do something, rather than all of this intrigue, where all they want to do is talk about who gets the big office, the big title, who was able to get the best table at the best restaurant in washington. i'm on board, i think you are too. as our country continues to deteriorate, i would like the leaders in washington to tell me what they believe and what their goals are, then start to work towards achieving it rather
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than continuing to bicker over stuff that nobody cares about except for the people between washington dc and new york who ride that train. >> other questions. gov. christie: that lady in the back. yes, ma'am. >> thank you, governor. he remembered your going to call on the. gov. christie: it took a while. >> i have a question about social security. i am also working across the aisle -- it is a great idea that no labels wants to do -- but with our seniors living on an average of $16,000 a year from social security checks, what you have to say about the cap on social security making it fair for the working class and lower middle class so we can survive? thank you. [applause] in seven to eight years, social security is not
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going to be able to make payments they make now. take that in for a second. in seven to eight years, a study that came out said social security and will be insolvent. there are two different ways to approach this problem. the first will be what we would do -- ignore it. the second approach is to give the government more money. the third approach is to work on reforming the programs in order to make them affordable. iwould go for part three, and am the only person in the race who is actually putting forward a reform program in detail. it is the first thing i did in this race. the reason is because of what this woman said. we have so many people in this country who are dependent upon making sure they get their social security payment. there are a few things we need to do. first, we need to acknowledge a happy truth. we are living longer lives.
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the average life expectancy for a woman in this country is 83 years old. for a man, 79. that 10o let you know years ago, you were ahead of us by six years. 10 years later, we are gaining on you. that for your vacation you are -- young, you may not may be stuck with us the entire time. old this was set up for people died in their mid-60's. we are living 15-20 years longer. we are try for my social security law fund for that much longer. by having a happy circumstance and pharmacology and all the rest coming eating better. better lifestyles, we need to raise the retirement age. theeed to raise it over next 25. that would mean one month and increase ineligibility per year
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for 25 years. believe me, the world will not stop spinning on its axis because of this. when i get accused of throwing grandma off the cliff or this, that means that is the highest, longest fall over. it is 25 years to get from the top of the cliff to the bottom. let's be honest. thing, the social security should be there for the people who need it. we need social security for the difference for people who means the difference of living old age in poverty or with dignity. the difference between red, heat, food. those of the people we need to take care of. i say if you make over $2000 a year in retirement income, retirement income that means you have $4 million saved. if you do come i say god bless you, great job. i also say god bless america. it would also mean you should i get a social security check.
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[applause] christie: i had someone yell i pay for come i want my money back. the government lied to you and stole from you. to pointng first one this out, there is no trust fund. there is no lockbox. there are ious in the lockbox. it is not there. they are spending your money today. it is a fiction. someone needs to take about that. are plenty ofe things he paid for that you do not get money back four. would you get back his peace of mind. let's talk about homeowners insurance, you buy homeowners insurance. you buy in clay something bad happens. you know the money will be there to help you rebuild your home.
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let's say you're going to sell it but you never made a claim, do you want the insurance company to ask for the money out if you do, they will just laugh at you. because what they will say to you is what you got in return was the peace of mind in knowing that when you put your had an appellate night that if something happened, we would be there to make you whole. social security has become the same thing. if you play by the rules and paying to the system it will be there if you need it. my friend mark zuckerberg was talking about them tell me what exactly that means. what it means for you, mark, you get nothing. [laughter] you get absolutely nothing. you will get zero. you don't need it. that's the way we have to take care of social security. if we don't do it, option one, take the cap off the payroll tax and everybody pay more. that me ask you a question.
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the government that lied to you and stole from you already, you think the answer is to give them more money? next time, they won't do it? of course they will. if they get a choice between cutting the program or increasing a tax or stealing from this pilot money over here -- this pile of money over here is that no one is using right now, so just borrow a little bit from that, it will be fine -- understand what politicians are like, ok? they are taking from that pile of money. don't give them more. this is about people who have done very well. if you mean taken the cap off it means taking from them now and meaning you caps on that the government was wasted, or taking it later. let's not trust the government to get more money, please. take it off the back end, make social security solvent, and let's have it be there for the people he needed. -- who need it. [applause] let's see. let's go to that gentleman in the plant shirt.
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they are all running at you. [laughter] they might arrest you. it is a microphone. >> londonderry, new hampshire. when the government shuts down, that damages the full faith in the united states as the world leader for the monetary system. what could you do, or what do you recommend be done so we never experience another shutdown in government? because i feel my government should never shut down because of some stupid reason that they seem to come up with. mr. christie: listen, i said this the last time it closed down. it is a fundamental failure of leadership by everyone when government shuts down. a fundamental failure of leadership. all you get hired to do is governed, and then you stop governing and say that is ok?
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that is what you are hired to do. in new jersey, before i was governor the governor was a guy named jon corzine. they closed down the government in new jersey in 2006 because they could not agree on how much to raise taxes. imagine, you want to talk about the variety of stupid reasons to close down government. here are two sets of people who agreed they wanted to raise taxes, and they could not agree on how much, so they shut down government. put aside the bipartisan -- this is a democratic legislature with a democratic governor. they shut down government for that reason. when i was running against governor corzine, i said that the government will never shut down on my watch. i will make sure it doesn't. it's my responsibility as
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governor. i had a much tougher task, because i had a democratic legislature with me as a conservative republican governor. we have gone through six years, and we have not shut down the government wants. we get in the room like adults and make agreements. agreements that neither one of us like sometimes, but we make agreements because we know that our job is to make sure the state parks remain open on the fourth of july, to make sure folks who need human services continue to get them, because that's what we're supposed to provide. public safety has to continue and state police have to be funded and out on the roadways. it's not an option. anyone who closes down the government has engaged in a fundamental failure of leadership. if the government shuts down in the next few weeks, that is a pox not only on congress, but on the president, because he has an obligation to get people in the room and get them to agree. everyone is a failure when that happens. it didn't happen on my watch in new jersey, and it won't happen if i'm president, either. [applause]
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this gentleman right here. >> thank you so much for being here today. i am born and raised in washington, d.c., and i wanted to ask you about a question that has not come up too often. we talk about the gridlock in d.c., but we don't talk about the 650,000 people who live there and the lack of basic fund mental rights, the right to vote in our congress. we have no voting members there. [applause] at this conference, no labels, why has it become such a partisan issue that it has prevented washington, d.c. residents, the only capital of the world whose population does him not have the right to vote? why can't we give them this basic democratic right? [applause] mr. christie: we are the only capital, we may be the only capital created just to be a
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seat of government. washington, d.c. was created to be a seat of government. that's what it was created for. it has now expanded and grown into something different. but to tell you the truth, i'm not one to give this a lot of thought, but i will give you my initial reaction. my initial reaction is, i don't think adding another person to congress is going to help. i just don't think fundamentally it will help or make an enormous difference. i understand the philosophical argument and i'm not rejecting it, but to be honest i have not given it enough thought to give you a really thoughtful answer. how about this, somebody out here will come to my next town hall meeting in new hampshire when i am back again next week. make sure to ask that question again. i don't want to give you an off-the-cuff answer i have not thought about. that's my initial instinct. i will come back and give you a full answer on it.
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[applause] all right. they have turned my screen blank, which means i get to do what, one more? the powers that be say one more, so i'm going to give one more and, let's go to this young lady right here in the middle. >> thank you, governor. national service is a really important program across the country. i'm wondering, if you are elected, will you support expanding national service? mr. christie: i will, for a few reasons. first off, the folks from americorps were extraordinary helpful to us in the aftermath of hurricane sandy. [applause] we had volunteers who came to new jersey and stayed with us for months, helping to get their lives back to some sense of normalcy.
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helping to clean up debris. helping to rebuild. helping to cook meals. helping to read to children when they were out of school. all sorts of different things that americorps volunteers did, which were indispensable not only to help us rebuild, but to give the people in our state who were really suffering a sense that they were not alone. that is an intangible that you cannot even place a value on. the enthusiasm and compassion that americorps members brought to new jersey made me an even bigger supporter of the program. i also think, we need to expand national service as a way to deal with the student debt problem in our country. [applause] there's a whole bunch of layers to this which i can't go into now, because my clock has run out, but one of the options i
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think we need to give young men and women who graduate from college with significant amount , for them to participate in national service to work that off. [applause] it's going to be great for our communities. it will be great for our communities and our states and our country, and it will give those young men and women the opportunity to not carry that millstone around the neck that prevents them from buying a home, starting a family, doing the kinds of things they want to do because they leave with such an enormous amount of debt. we need to deal with colleges and universities, too. national service is an important thing to honor, not just in the military, but across all disciplines. i would give young men and women the opportunity to engage in national service in a much broader way when they graduate from college, and when they do so, have them work off part of their student loan debt so they are not carrying a mortgage of their own before they ever own a home in this country, preventing them from really starting their lives. i thank those people for participating, and i think we should expand it. [applause]
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the screen here says time ending, wrap up. in case you are not clear on that, they put in red, time's up, exclamation point. i'm from new jersey, which means i ignore stuff like that. [applause] i will tell you, the gathering of you all here today is encouraging for me as a candidate for public office, that men and women of both parties who care deeply about the country's future are here today to make sure those voices are heard and you make sure you hear from us about what we believe in and what we are willing to stand for and fight for. by you being here, i know what you are willing to stand for and fight for, a better america and a more stable world. thank you, senator lieberman, governor huntsman. thank you for having me.
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former florida governor jeb bush delivered health care speech on repealing the affordable care act. we have it live from the institute of manchester. john kasich takes audience questions. begins atoverage 12:30 eastern time. >> next, presidential candidate donald trump is asked about the tone of his campaign at an event hosted by the group no labels. and former connecticut senator joe lieberman. lieberman: thank you. it is good to be back here. the high honor of
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introducing the next presidential candidate who is unique in many ways just to give you a hint. he is the only candidate that they use the article of the vatican, or the bronx. the donald trump. he is the surprise phenomenon of this presidential campaign. consistently leading the national and state polls of republicans. as he himself has occasionally pointed out. important holes are and relevant. they have a message that is important and relevant for all of us about public opinion. many people, obviously, c donald on toas the best vehicle express the most common emotions of this in tents and unusual
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campaign which our disappointment, distinct, and anger towards the status quo in washington. those the emotions and opinions are exactly what led to the creation of no labels. as you know, no labels is not a campaign for president. we are a national campaign for an idea which is to make america's government work for the people of america again. [applause] let me say donald trump's life , gives us at least two great lessons very consistent with what no labels is about. he has had a very successful career in real estate. and we all know he is successful not because he knocked buildings down, but because he built buildings up. and we need leaders who will build up america's government
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again. [applause] secondly, we need leaders who can agree on some big goals and then negotiate the details to get them accomplished. this candidate has had some experience negotiating deals. in fact, he wrote a book called "the art of the deal." nobody in washington seems able to negotiate a deal on anything as basic as even the budget. so, i hope that maybe donald trump will talk to us today about the lessons of his negotiating deals and what they can teach him and every other candidate running this year about how to make america great again. whatever he talks about, i want to say how grateful we at no labels are that he adjusted his scheduled to be with us today and how glad i am now to
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introduce to you -- incidentally, he is not here to fire any of you. [laughter] he is here i have been authorized to say to fire you up. ladies and gentlemen, the donald trump. [dream on guitar intro]
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>> thank you very much everybody. that's so nice. no labels. that's right, i'm a believer. you know, john and joe called and they said, would you do it? i said, i think i will be able to. they explained what no labels represented and where we have to go in this country because we are getting nothing done
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whatsoever. i said i'm pretty sure i'm going to be able to do it. so the next day they announced, i will be there without question. [laughter] they are tough negotiators. i had another speech someplace. it was actually quite a bit of a problem. i told them i wouldn't do it. they went nuts. they were not happy. is that right? they were not happy people. ultimately i said, i may have gone a little over that 50% level. and so here i am. right? here i am. [applause] and i love new hampshire. the latest poll came out. 32 to 13. somebody said, why do you talk about the polls? because i am winning. nobody else ever talks about the
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polls because they do lousy in the polls. if they were doing well, they would be talking about the polls. we had 32 to 13. that is a big gap and that is in new hampshire. i know so many people have friends in new hampshire, they are amazing people. thank you all. i really appreciate it. [applause] so when we talk about no labels and getting along -- i'm not going to say it too much because tipper o'neill and ronald reagan, i look at that as the ultimate. two people with different views, different everything and they liked each other and they got along and they got things done. and they had a leader in ronald reagan. because ultimately it is about the president. much more so about the president then you can imagine. and if the president is a leader, if he is a real leader, or she is a real leader, you will get things done.
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but you need the leadership to come from the very pinnacle. and if it doesn't, it's not going to happen. and that's not happening now. it's not happening now. people aren't getting together. i see it. i have actually been doing this for a long time. i was very establishment. i was the ultimate. i gave more money than anything. when i decided to run, i was antiestablishment. can you believe this? but we can't take a chance on a loss. i watched previously -- i was thinking about doing it and i decided not to because i thought it was a race that could have been won and i don't want that to happen again. if you look at what happened four years ago, timing was right. everything was right. and it should have been done. it is going to be done this time and hopefully it's going to be done by me.
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and i think we are going to have a result is going to be great. we are going to turn the country around. we are going to make america great again. and that's what's going to happen. that's what's going to happen. i looked at a couple of things that i thought would be appropriate. and i'm thinking back about my career. when i was a young man in new york, we had a problem called a skating rink. it took eight years. everyone knows. they now study it in all the business schools. we all studied it. i didn't study it, i did it. we had a rink. it wasn't such a little deal. it was an 80,000 foot rink. and the government could get a bill -- couldn't get a bill. it was a renovation, it wasn't even building. after eight years, i had a daughter growing up, and she would say, dad, i want to go ice skating. and every year i would say to
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ivanka, have you heard of ivanka? she's great. there was no ice. i would look out the window and see hundreds of guys sitting at the rink. and after seven years, i went to koch. i said, ed, i can do this thing right. i met with the unions. i met with people doing refrigeration. the engineer was based in miami, florida. it's true. and they were using freon. that means if you have a little tiny hole in 30 miles of pipe, it's not going to work. i said, that doesn't sound good. so i called up the montreal canadiens ice hockey team. i said, who does your rinks? they said, he's excellent, he is
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based here in montreal. so he came in and immediately said, you cannot use freon. you have to use brine. it's water with salt and it. how simple could that get? it was much less expensive. i got to town and ed koch said, you do it. we had cement mixers. they were using little mixers. like take the biggest office floor you know and triple it and
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then fill another little section. and then the vandals would come at night and steal all the copper. so i said, this is not good. you want one contiguous pour. so i had trucks from the rink all the way back to harlem, cement mixers. we poured it all in one day. it was 26 hours and 25 minutes. it healed beautifully. when the city did it, it was like this. they couldn't make ice for a lot of reasons. when i talk about the price, the biggest problem i had was demolition. that was the biggest cost. i had to demolish everything that was done. so i got it done. i got everybody together and we got it done. and to this day it is the most successful ice-skating rink. i still run it.
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i have run it for many years and it is the number one in the world and it does great. i was thinking about it because we are talking about no labels. i was talking to john and joe and we are talking about getting together. i got together with everybody. the city, the council. everything had to be done fast. the beauty is i did it in four months. i did it for $1.8 million. the city had already spent $20 million and most of it was demolition. that's what happens. and you can do it with this country. believe me, you can do things
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that people have no idea construction wise. our roads and bridges are falling apart. i just left laguardia airport. it's like a third world airport. it's third world. it's horrible. go out to the runways, it's horrible. i travel all over the world, i have so many different relationships and partnerships and very complicated stuff and i meet the richest people, the richest companies in the world and i'm partners with many of them in different parts. you go to qatar and all the different places -- by the way, all over china. you go to bahrain, saudi arabia. you see airports --you have never seen anything like it. right here in manhattan, they had a 350 acre piece of land on the east river. this deal was getting everybody together. the city of new york in the bronx, you heard about it. they had a 350 acre piece of land on the east river. the east river is great.
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he knows what i'm going to say. it was expandable into 550 acres. it was like five minutes into manhattan. they have been building that golf course i think for 30 years. i think. somebody said its really not 30, it's 21. ok. it's 21. it has been under construction for many years. we believe the cost is over $300 million. the mayor said, what do you think it should have cost? i said about $7 million. and they couldn't get it done. mayor bloomberg said, you've got to help us. i have a long-term deal and i took it over. i got it done in less than a year. for peanuts. it's beautiful. it's getting all rave reviews. i had to get the city together, all the unions together. i had to get everybody together and we got it done and they
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worked so hard. and now it's open and setting every record because of its location. it's phenomenal to be right next to manhattan and on the river. it's unbelievable. so you can do these things. but it's about leadership. frankly if i had somebody that worked for me that was good, it wouldn't be good enough. it had to come from me. i needed the mayor's help. i needed the city council's help. it has to come from the president. i will give you something that to me is so big. corporate inversion. i look at your different things that you have, things that you want to do. create 25 million jobs. balance the federal budget by 2030. 2030? that's an easy one. [laughter] [applause]
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they gave me this note, i said -- i think there is a typo. [laughter] 2030. secure social security. people have to do it. we have a contract. we all have a contract. i don't need mine, by the way. and i think if somebody doesn't want it, give it up. but it has to be that person's decision. [applause] i have friends worth hundreds and millions and billions of dollars that get social security. they don't even know the check comes in. they will never see the check. a lot of people would give it up for the good of the country. i want to do that. i don't know if anybody has even talked about that. i have friends who say, we don't want it. and you do it on the basis of spirit for the country. we have to keep social security for the people that really need it. so important. [applause]
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and make america energy secure by 2024. it's almost energy secure now. because of technology, what we have on the ground is enormous. but we are not allowed to exploit it. and we have more than anybody. we have really good stuff. i have friends -- we have the best stuff. the really best stuff. i'm not talking about the tar sands. which are fine, but it is very expensive to get the oil. it costs a lot of money. we have the best stuff. we have prime. and we don't use it. and yet we are not allowed to use coal anymore. and yet we export coal to china. and we say china has to go under the agreement but they don't have to go under for 25 and 35 years. how stupid are we? how stupid do they think we are? how stupid do they think we are?
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[applause] it's like our military. i love the military. i love our veterans. i will take such great care of our veterans, believe me. i have a lot of my friends here. a lot of my friends here, the veterans. our veterans are being treated -- worse, i am telling you, worse than illegal immigrants in this country. and they are our greatest people. and our wounded warriors are not being treated fairly and we will take care of that. when you look at all of the difficulties -- i watched president obama last night on television. he bombed. very simply. and it was not easy for him, because steve kroft was doing -- they were much nicer to me two weeks ago. can you believe that? i was on with putin.
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putin and trump, nice stablemates. everything is negative. isis, iraq, afghanistan, syria. that statistic of 5.4% is a phony statistic. it doesn't mean anything. other than the politicians in this room, they don't count because they are fabulous. these are fabulous people. i hate to insult people when they are sitting there with their wives. it is terrible. but these statistics are made up by politicians. because you always look good. a guy looks for a job, or a woman, they say i can't find one, they go back, they are considered essentially employed. we have 100 million people out of the workforce.
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it's the highest number it has ever been. somebody said -- a very talented person said our unemployment rate, and i'm not going to take this number, they said our unemployment rate is 42%. think of it. if you added up, it is. so i say 21% or 22% because i want to be nice to the president. it's a disaster. we have to take jobs back from all of these country that are ripping us. we have to bring them back. we have to bring them back home. [applause] so what happens -- and what has to happen is we will get into a situation where hopefully when the next president is interviewed by 60 minutes or whoever, they can say, wow, you have really made some unbelievable strides with trade deals. i have carl icahn lined up. i have the smartest toughest negotiators in the world lined up. they don't want anything for it.
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just like i don't want a salary. if i win -- somebody said to me, would you want your salary if i become president? no, i don't want it. these guys don't want anything. they actually want to help. i know people that are so tough and smart. i was saying the other day -- they said you want tough in terms of speaker. i don't want tough, i want tough and smart. tough is no good. i know too many tough people who are not smart. you need the combination. right? right. you need the combination. we need smart, tough people. we've got to bring our country back. we can't go on like this. we cannot continue to lose. the u.s. trade deficit with china -- i had it looked up. it is almost $400 billion a year. it gets worse.
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if you want to do business with china, you can't. i have friends that are manufacturers. they can't get their product in and if they do they get a huge tariff. a man that i am very close to -- by the way, i love the chinese. i think they are great. but their leaders are too smart. i love mexico. i love the mexican people. they are great. but their leaders are too smart. that big plant is moving to mexico. which means i am never going to eat another oreo again. i'm serious. never. [laughter] ford is building a $2.5 billion plant in mexico. how is that going to help us? in why is this good for us? in tennessee, they are all set to announce a big plant.
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and the company announced very quickly, very ruthlessly, they have decided to go to mexico instead. so now they are going to mexico instead. it's not going to happen. we're going to keep our jobs in the united states. you want to do business with some of these countries, they charge you taxes. we don't charge them tax because we are stupid. we don't charge them. it's not fair. we need problems falters. -- a solvers. we need leaders and you can't have leadership unless you know -- we are going to make our country rich again. a woman came up to me and said mr. trump, i like you. she is from new hampshire. i like you so much, but are you a nice enough person to be president? can you believe it? i said, i think i'm nice. i love people. i told her, i said, i'm nice, believe me. i'm going to take care of people. i'm going to take care of women. i'm going to take care of men. i'm going to take care of the african-americans. look at their unemployment
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rates. it's a record. african-american youths. look at what's going on in the inner cities. they can't get jobs at all. i'm going to take care of people. i said to her, i really don't believe this is going to be about mi a nice person. i think people are fed up with incompetent politicians who don't get things done. i'm telling you. [applause] i think they are fed up. and i think this is going to be an election that's going to be largely based on competence. because we want our country back. we want to take it back. we want our country back. so it's really an honor to be with you. it's an incredible group. behind me is the future. [applause] except for a couple of people in the audience that i know. forget them. but this is the future.
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i thought i would take a couple of questions. it would be my honor. go ahead. you look healthy to me. go ahead. >> i would like to thank you for continuing the constructive conversation. as you probably know, president bush started an emergency plan for aids relief that has been very effective at aids treatment globally. i really want to ask you if you would commit to doubling the number of people on treatment to 30 million people by the year 2020. >> i like committing to all of those things. those are great things. alzheimer's, aids.
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we are close on some of them. with all of the work that has been done, we are not very close with some of them. but the answer is yes. i believe so strongly in that and we will lead the way on that. [applause] >> i am impressed that you are here in person, i have to admit. i'm going to throw a question at you and i think it's going to be a hard one for you to answer. so, here is the challenge. compromise has become the dirty word. if the other side said, we would do this and that, and all they asked was for a specific tax increase or getting rid of a tax deduction, what could you offer at the table as a gesture of compromise? >> the word compromise is not a bad word to me.
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having made deals all my life -- i'm coming out with a book in three weeks. it's a rough title. does anyone know the title of the book? crippled america. it is a very sad title. simon & schuster called me and said, we want you to write a book. i realized how much negativity is going on. they took these beautiful pictures of me smiling. i'm smiling. i look nice. but i didn't use that picture. i used the worst picture in the whole group and it is mean and angry as i am angry about what's happening to the country and i put it right on the cover of the book. it's a horrible picture which shows i don't have as much ego as -- but i like the word compromise. there is nothing wrong with compromise, but it's always good to compromise and win. meaning let's compromise and
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win. as far as taxes are concerned, i put out a plan where i'm reducing taxes very substantially. we are bringing corporate down to 15%. we are bringing tremendous tax reductions to virtually everybody. we are rid of a lot of the deductions like carried interest. these are hedge fund deductions. we are getting rid of them. the hedge fund guys don't want to talk to me anymore. they wanted to give me millions. i am self funding my campaign. they wanted to give me millions, i don't want it. if i take it, i have to be like jeb bush and marco rubio and do what they tell me to do. believe me, they are puppets. we have asked for a major tax reduction so i think you will be very happy and the word compromise is absolutely fine. but if you are going to compromise, ask for about three times more than you want.
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you understand? so when you compromise you get what you want. ok. [applause] go ahead. she doesn't have a microphone. look who we have. good. >> i'm miss america's outstanding teen. and i travel across the country and teach kids about saving money, which is hard. our government is even fiscally responsible. so i'm asking every single candidate and i have been waiting to ask you. >> in particular. >> of course. specifically, what are you going to be doing about the $18 trillion deficit? trump: by the way, it's no $19 trillion -- by the way, it is now $19 trillion. we owe $19 trillion as a country and we are going to knock it
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down and we are going to bring it down big league and quickly. we're going to bring jobs back, we are going to bring business backs. we are going to stop our deficits. we're going to do it very quickly. [audience: how?] >> number one, we have tremendous cutting to do. we have a department of education that is tremendously out of control. most of the republican candidates like common core. i am totally against it. i want local education. [applause] when i am in new hampshire and iowa and south carolina -- so important. we're going to save on department of they are not doing it. they're not doing their job and they are making it impossible for our country to compete. and many other things. hundreds of billions of dollars
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is going to be saved just in terms of running government. in addition to that, i'm going to bring millions of jobs back into this country. ok darling? thank you. >> my name is michaela. i am wondering if you are all concerned that some of the divisive language you used on the campaign trail undermines your ability to solve problems. [applause] donald trump: >> here's the thing. i went to i believe schools. i know what is divisive and what is not divisive, in all fairness. i don't want to necessarily be politically correct all the way down the line. [applause] because i see people -- they can't even function. i see politicians afraid to say anything because it's not politically correct. and they know the answers and they refuse to give them a cousin they are afraid it's not
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going to be politically correct and i am going to have to be who i am. at the same time, i'm running against a lot of people. it was 16 and now it's 15. many are going to be dropping out very soon if they are smart. too many people. when it becomes a different kind of situation, you will see me being much less divisive. remember this. i never start anything. i counterpunch. they start. they get very nasty. whether it is lindsey graham, rick perry, i get along great -- and then all of a sudden, because they are dying, they're doing so badly, they figure -- i don't think anybody in this room wants to have somebody that is not going to fight back. the problem we have in this country as we have people now that don't fight back. they don't fight back and the country is tremendously -- the country is being hurt tremendously by it.
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go ahead. >> my name is kyle smith. i'm a student leader. >> where are you? >> over here. i just want to say thank you first of all. i was wondering what your plan is in working across the aisle to increase civic engagement among millennial's, getting college students involved and student loans. >> so important. that's going to be worked on. the one thing i get more than any other question is student loans. they go out, they get an education from great colleges, they become the best student in their class, everything is great, and then they can't get a job. the best way to solve it is to create jobs but they can't get jobs.
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students are borrowing money all over the place. they formed the student loan money, which is one of the only agencies and government that makes a lot of money. it's the question i get more than any other question. we are going to be cutting back down. we are going to give people incentive to go out and get an education at a much lower price. don't forget, these schools because they get so much money through the government, they are raising their fees to appointed is ridiculous. they don't need to get that kind of money. [applause] because of the fact that the government is giving out so much money, you take a look at what has happened to the cost of education. believe me it hasn't gone up that much. we are to get those numbers down. and also we are going to have jobs so when you graduate you are going to get a nice job for you are very happy. ok? great question. go ahead.
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>> i'm curious about your perspective on the freedom caucus or the tea party. which has been at the heart of -- >> i love the tea party. i will tell you about the tea party. these are people that love this country. they do love this country. and they want the country to be great. go ahead. >> the issue is -- not to offend anyone, but i see that planned parenthood is a deck chair on the titanic. that is where i'm coming from. to shut down the entire government over it is kind of this small world mindset. >> they don't want planned parenthood funded and i think a lot of people understand that including me. i understand that. [booing] go ahead.
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>> maybe i'm wrong. maybe you can prove me wrong. but i don't think you are a friend to women. [applause] >> i knew i shouldn't have picked her. i respect women incredibly. i have had women working for me in positions that they have never worked in terms of so many different jobs. i had a woman who was in charge of the building of trump tower many years ago before it was even -- before anybody would have even thought of it and it did a fantastic job. i have given women more opportunity than i would say virtually anybody in the construction industry. i have a daughter named ivanka and a wife named melania who constantly want me to talk about women's health issues because they know how i feel about it
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and they know how i feel about women. i respect women, i love women, i cherish women. my mother was one of the great people of the world. maybe the greatest ever. i respect women and i'm going to take care of women. jeb bush didn't want to fund women's health issues. you saw that. and then he took it back later. i will take care of women and i have great respect for women and i do cherish women and i will take care of women. i will take care of us also from the enemy -- meaning the enemy on different shores looking to come in and do numbers. believe me, i will take care of the people in this country far better than any of the folks you are looking at right now. that i can tell you. go ahead. >> i want to get paid the same as a man and i think you understand that.
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so if you become president, will a woman make the same as a man and do i get to choose what i do with my body? [applause] >> you're going to make the same if you do as good a job. and i happen to be pro-life. ok? i'm pro-life. any other questions? go ahead. shout it out. let's go. shoot.
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he's choking. come on. >> i have a quick question about something you said earlier this summer that south korea takes advantage of the united states in terms of defense spending. i just want to get the facts straight. >> are you from south korea? >> i am not. i was born in texas and raised in colorado. [applause] no matter where i am from i want to get my facts straight. him i want to tell you that's not true. >> excuse me. it's peanuts compared to what it's costing. it's peanuts. him and by the way, they are a very wealthy country. part of the problem when we talk about deficits and losing and why can't we do -- we are
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defending germany, we are defending japan, we are defending south korea, so many countries and we get peanuts. it's a fraction. a tiny fraction. i say all the time about south korea, i ordered 4000 television sets recently. they all come from south korea. whether it is lg or samsung -- these are wealthy countries. we have 28,000 soldiers on the border of south korea. we defend germany, which is sending cars over there. we are defending japan. so here's the deal's that we make. we defend japan and we have to defend them with their lives.
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if anybody a tax japan, we have -- if anybody attacks japan, we have an agreement. we have to go and attack and fight and i and spend. but if anybody attacks us, japan doesn't have to do a thing. that's the way we run things. it is not going to happen with me. and avoid defending people that are far richer with us. they are going to have to pay for it. why are we defending germany and south korea and japan? and they don't do anything for us. we are going to have great relationships, but why do we pay the cost of defending the world? when you look at your military budget, it is far higher than anybody else's. you know why it is higher? we are defending all these countries. it's not helping us. we are going to change things around and make america great again. the leave me. inc. you all very much. thank you. -- believe me. thank you all very much.
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thank you. [applause] ♪ we are not going to take it. no, we will not take it. we will not take it anymore. e have the right to choose ♪ there is no way we will lose ♪ >> all caps and long, c-span takes you on the road to the white house. access to the candidates at town hall meetings. news conferences, rallies and speeches. where take your comments on twitter, facebook and by phone. as always, every campaign event we is available on our website. >> coming up on the washington journal, we are live from the montgomery county correctional
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