tv Former Governor Jeb Bush R-FL Town Hall Meeting in Concord New Hampshire CSPAN October 14, 2015 7:00pm-8:01pm EDT
. we need to find the avenues that would keep those individuals from violent acts. you do see you bleed over in unusual ways. when case in new york, individuals were motivated by islamic extremist groups. as they did their internet research on tactics, they looked up the bombing methods of used in the oklahoma city bombing. you did see this overlap. oneencryption, this is where it is important to have a discussion. what we seeing now -- if you think about it through thousands of years of military history, the ability to communicate instantaneously for command and control purposes, along with
recruitment, and to do so in a way that is not penetrable by the adversary is something that commanders have long thought. -- soft. now wherean age right american ingenuity, research and develop has produced those products. mr. gets them for free -- distributes them for free. there are positive things with that, but the problem is when there is violence espousing they can for free have this powerful technology that is great for operational planning and recruitment of terrorist. i think you have heard from the and others the fbi that this poses a real challenge for intelligence and law-enforcement. it is linked to a new technology
we built, designed, and came up with the technology. with the bestg and brightest of the private sector, surely now that we know this threat exists, we can work together to combat child predators and terrorist groups. and we need to do so. >> we have to close it here. i appreciate you all coming. it was a stimulating conversation. i would like to a knowledge the host of the event. announcer: we are going to break away from the last couple of minutes from this tapes event. . [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2015] announcer: we go live to the town hall meeting in concord, new hampshire. have the privilege of having friends running in this race. i have no better friend than our guest tonight.
we love our primary. i think the people atconcord do it better than anyone. we summer and winter these candidates. my privilege tonight is to introduce another good friend. he is someone who does a terrific job for the state of hampshire. that is chuck morris, the president of the new hampshire senate. he brought us a well thought out budget this year. [applause] thank you, check. -- chuck. chuck: thank you for having me. like every citizen in this day, i take what i do very seriously. when i am looking at candidates, i take it very seriously when there are so many that have strong values that would be great presidents of the united states.
i have said done with many of them, they have great ideas. they have great ideas for what our country could be. i am here today because one stands head and shoulders above the rest, that is jeb bush. [applause] i am proud to say that i am cochair of the jeb bush campaign for president. we are going to make it work here in new hampshire. what we need in washington is change. runsed a washington that like what we believe here in new hampshire as republicans, and what jeb bush did in florida. he made a huge difference. he reduced taxes every year that he was governor. he grew the economy. he grew jobs. that is what we want as her publicans in this country. we want everyone to better themselves. i am proud to introduce the next
president, jeb bush. [applause] chuck: would you remain standing for the pledge of allegiance. all: i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america. and to the republic for which it ,tands one nation, under god indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. bush: your endorsement is very meaningful. thank you for coming out and welcoming me. i am from florida. it is great to be in a place that honors the space program. it is really good to be here.
[applause] if you think about it, america always has been an aspirational country, hasn't it? we have always done things that defied the imagination of the rest of the world. being able to launch -- put a man on the moon, which was the aspirational goal in the 1960's when the russians -- excuse me, soviet -- i get them confused these days because vladimir putin is acting like a soviet. when they launched the rocket into space, it lit a fire under america. we sent a man to the moon. it was an incredible engineering defeat -- feet. we do that regularly. we need to keep doing it. whether it is to explore the stars or brain. peoplebout it, i meet all of the time that have loved ones with dementia or alzheimer's. we have not seen the kind of
forward movement in the discovery of medicines to be able to take care of alzheimer's. in a state of florida we have a voucher program for kids that have been -- learning disabilities. there have been a surge of children with autism. in our case, we can send those parents, if they are not satisfied with the public school, can send their kids with state and local money to a private school. there are all sorts of challenges. the mental health challenges we see playing out in our communities across the country. imagine if we were aspirational again. i think we have lost some of that spirit. we would have aspirational goals to discover the diseases that are neurological. we are on the verge of the greatest time to be alive, is what i believe. we have to start acting like we have done in the past, to fix a few big conflicts things in order to rise up again -- big, complex things in order to rise up again. this is not the time to have
people feed your anger or angst. there is a legitimate reason why people are angry. look at washington dc. i made a mistake, i was asked on a sports talk show. i was asked my views on the washington redskins. of big there are a lot pressing problems here, i don't think we need to be so politically correct, to try to, through government take the name off. if that is what they want, leave them alone. let's worry about the complicated nature of taxes. they left went crazy, as you might expect because they are more politically correct these days. someone sent me an e-mail and the term redskins is not pejorative, it is washington. if they are going to change their name -- [applause] i don't know what you would call it, northern virginia redskins. washington is broken. it is ridiculous, we have three
day work weeks. how many people here decide they're just going to take a week off or not show up at a committee hearing. or not guard -- vote. you would have a deduction in pay. washington should have that as well. elected officials should service with a servant's part. -- heart. they should be doing their work. elected officials should not finish their job and go out the back door and lobby the people they were serving with. there should be a six-year on lobbyist. just as there is in many places. 29 states that have advocated a balanced budget amendment. i hope we get to the point where we have one. it will not happen in washington, but the state that people can demand this. government needs to live within our means, rather than their means. if we focused on bringing people together to force consensus on how we get to a balanced budget
with that constitutional requirement, i guarantee if i was president, we could do it. we need a line item veto power for the next president. they call me veto corleone when i was the governor. i guess that was being -- like being called the washington redskins. the speaker of the house called me back, i embraced it. items in the line budget, not to be punitive. not to say you are not on my team and i'm sending you a signal. simply based on the principle that if spending does not go through the proper process, it should not exist. a limiting the pork, what we call turkeys in florida, was a way that we proved that government income needed to grow slower than personal income. i turned the whole state and system, tallahassee upside down when i was governor. the result was, over eight years we cut taxes every year,
totaling $19 billion. we reduced the state governments workforce by 11%. 13,000 fewer government workers. we challenge the system of employment. there is no more lifetime contracts of employment in state government. you can fire someone for incompetence, or for causing cause in florida. [applause] being punitive, this was based on government should be the servant, not master. in washington dc, they have lost sight of this. think about the veterans administration, jim. think about is going on there. you have a system of bone missing executives inside the onusing the executives inside of the a. they were going to be given a list, theyhe wait
forgot to provide care for the veterans. they reduced the waiting list by taking them off of the list, some veterans died. do you think people get fired? three people got fired. do know how many people work there -- 330,000. incompetence because of the scale and scope of government right now is impairing our ability to fix problems. people are angry for a good reason. the question is, are we going to stay angry, or fix it? i know how to do this. exactly the sick -- the things that people want to see washington do in tallahassee. , we were one of two states to go to aaa bond rating. the united states has had a downgrade to aa. it is not the reflection of the greatness of our country when you see structural deficits under president obama's watch there will be more debt acute
related than all of the 43 prior.nts to restore america's greatness -- which we are on the verge of doing, we have to bring back veto corleone from florida, to washington dc. theeed to bring back phenomenal fact that government is the servant, not master. we are the host, they are the parasite. if we get sick, the parasite dies as well. you cannot create economic activity through government. if you listen to last night to the debate, you might have thought that all power resides in washington. all forms of regulation create prosperity. taxes make it better. more spending through washington make things better. here is the deal, workforce to his patient are lower than they were in 1977. because of obama principally, 6.5 million people more are working part-time. the majority of which want to
work full-time. we have unemployment -- they talk about 6%, the fact is it is double-digit. income today is lower for the first time in a recovery -- $2000 lower in disposable income for families. 6 million more people are living in party. who is fooling who? the progressive liberal agenda has failed us. an we have to offer alternative of reforming taxes, signifying code, shifting power -- power back to people. promoting the bigger businesses and alle the lobbyist of the special interests in washington that make it easier for them to survive, but make it harder for the duration -- generation of job greatest to exist. for the first time in american history, more businesses are being closed informed. -- then formed. it is because we have advocated all power to washington dc.
the job of the next president is to lift europe by fixing how a tax. -- we tax. making government work as a servant. fixing our entitlement problems that will overwhelm the next generation of people, and the text -- next generation. this is not sustainable, but if we fix and grow at 4% rather than 2%, people will have a chance to dreams again. guess what -- the interaction of people, all of us together in a dynamic country, free of government mandates and rules and taxes, the way we have it today will have -- create more things that will move our heart and drive us forward. we will find cures for diseases. we will lead the world in so many different ways. i trust 300 million people in a crazy fashion, interacting amongst ourselves in trial and error, than any government program ever created. i hope you do as well.
if we grow at 4%, which i believe we do, embracing the energy revolution. fixing our entitlement problems. being frugal with government spending. challenging how government works, we can get there. grow at 4%r going to unless we recognize we are living in a perilous word -- world. each day another story comes out to prove it is perilous. it is perilous because we have abdicated are responsible it is as a world leader. this president does not believe that american leadership is a force for good in the world. with all respect to him, he is dead wrong. this country leads. when we leave we create a better chance for peace and security. if i am elected president, here is the deal -- we will rebuild the military, treat our troops with respect. we will arm them. [applause] the objective here is not to duty strawman thing that barack obama says, if you're not for his nuanced sophisticated view,
you are a warmonger, that is not true. leadership means -- we are not the world policeman, but we have to lead. people have to know that we have their back. imagine being the prime minister of israel right now, under attack by organized effort by palestinians to try to destabilize jerusalem. where thomas is dealing its oats again in the gaza strip. -- the i havey your back kind of relationship we should have for israel, we are casting them aside in alliance -- in their minds. they will take action, as any country will. we should have their back. there should be when the united states and israel. [applause] frankly -- all of their friends need to know that we have their back. our enemies need to fear us. in the last few days i've heard people say, what we -- won't we create a problem if we push back
on what americwould't's action -- putin's actions in syria? they are now actively promoting and supporting the brutality of the assad regime. this afternoon i read an article about a cuban general now is playing a part. this accesscreating of opponents to the united states to the point where we have serious problems. we are worried about offending putin? he is a bully. he should be worried about offending us, not the other way. we need to stand strong and tall. that means we will create more security. today in syria, millions are leaving the country. 200,000 have been killed. there are refugees forced back there that will either be raped, held as slaves, or killed.
the united states needs to lead. if we stand for anything, it is the value of human life. today people wonder where the united states is. the void is being filled in a way that will create problems for the next generation. we have to be engaged in the world. our friends need to know that we have their back. our enemies and need to know that they need to adjust to the reality that america will be there for a long while. we need to restore intelligence capabilities. we need to provide support for military troops. we need to do it in a loud and clear way. if you want to get to peace through strength, you have to restore america's leadership in the world. that gets us back on track to creating high sustained economic growth where people are lifted up. [applause] the final thing i want to say to you is, look, this is not about the big personalities on the stage.
it really is not. it is not about anyone running for president, all 75 of us. [laughter] it really is an. -- is not. it is about people like you single moms i meet all over this country that have a child in a failing school. they want to go to a high-performing charter school. what a voucher to go to a private school to afford the same things that people of affluence have. it should be a right for every mom and dad to pick the school that best meets the need of their child. [applause] it should be. it is about the small businessman, husband and wife team that i met in denver, they have a company of four people -- they told me they were about to go out of business because of obamacare. the confusion this brings for their own business. it is about the military family wondering whether the leave --
whether they're left one is going to come back home. or their state will have to be extended because we got at the military force. we shrunk it anytime we need to rebuild it. it is about a lot of people that are one or two paychecks away from utter disaster. it is about a friend of mine i met in 1998, at the time we were not friends, she let me have it in a town meeting. hopefully this will not happen today. she let me have it. she told me i did not care about families with kids with development of disabilities. i could not convince her, so i said, i tell you what, in the next month i will give you four days. you can schedule my life and teach me. i want to listen first. i want to hear what it is like. was, thetold me greatest fear that she and milton have is whether they will outlive we see -- lucy. i learned a lot in those four days.
i went to those group homes and i saw what it is like to have the dignity of an independent life. i would to work places where people with develop an old disability for getting jobs. customers loved it. employee found to -- join. --joy. everyone has value. everyone has a chance to contribute. they left believes that people are liabilities that they need to manage from above. we believe in the human spirit. we believe that everyone has a god-given ability to make a contribution. all of our policy should be organized around that. that is what i learned. she was an independent, her husband was a democrat, they are my strongest supporters because we changed the system. 30,000 families in florida receive benefits for their loved one. 30,000 more families today do not worry about whether they theirutlive her child --
child. [applause] listening and learning is important. i worry about the people i have met all my life journey that just want to be lifted up. they want a chance to live a life of purpose a meeting -- meeting. people like mr. meriwether. she used to be largest voucher program in the country. now about 70,000 kids get a private school indirectly with public money. when she was in third grade -- he is now 25 years old, she withheld back. -- she was held back. her older brother had a run-in with the law. her mother was lost. she was angry. no one ever told her she was smart and capable of learning. was effectively -- like hundreds of thousands of kids, being cast aside. because we challenge the orthodoxy of our times and
created the first statewide voucher program in the country. one of those is this program. her godmother found out about it, and she got to go a christian school. it is constitutional, just for the record. when she was told that she was capable of learning, when she was told she was an asset rather to itsliability, when ultimate purpose in life and that she was loved, she accelerated her learning to take back the third grade, and she did it again. she was the first in her family to graduate from high school. she was the first in her immediate family to graduate from college. children in0,000 florida that are grade level readers. i challenged everything about how the education system worked. i took on the two -- teachers union. do you see the scars on my head.
i thought, we want. -- we won. we opened the system. her, i don't know she's a democrat or republican, it doesn't matter. she now has a chance to rise up. imagine a country that focuses on the fact that all of us are assets. how do we achieve success. the whole focus ought to be unwitting people up -- lifting people up. if you run a campaign of right way, and you have a principal centered leader that knows how to fix this thing, this will be the most extreme marry live -- time to be alive in this world. i believe that my heart, i hope you all do as well. i humbly asked for your support and vote in the most important primary that exist in the united states. thank you all very much. [applause] sir.
i have not seen a michele bachmann t-shirt in a while. thank you, governor bush, pleasure to have you here. the question i want to sq is askt the other state -- to you about is the other state, iowa, i am asking because it affects the constitution. hodges, weaver, jones, those laws deny a person the right to defend themselves and a misdemeanor trial. they are not allowed to see evidence against them or defend themselves. jeb bush: that sounds like it violates the bill of rights. >> i want to ask you where you stand on that. jeb bush: without knowing the specifics, the bill of rights trumps state law, plain and simple. whether it is the second opinion -- amendment and you have states
trying to overreach and restrict gun rights to law-abiding citizens. normally that is settled in the federal court. i don't know the specifics. thebill of rights -- i was chairman of the national constitution center for a few years. i had a chance to fall in love with the constitution again. normally you will learn about it as a kid, it is different, kind of interesting. you do not realize the power of the constitution. it plays out in our lives each of everyday -- and every day. it is an incredible blueprint for a free society. we may be the only country that has a set of rights to protect us from our government. it is powerful. as long as we are self-governing, this document will keep us free and maintain the greatness of the country. people will rise to the challenge of innovating and pursuing their lives in a free society. i cannot tell you specifics of
the iowa laws. it has never come up. i will have to learn about it. thank you for the question. mike is coming your way. have two questions. jeb bush: when you make it one question, two-parts. >> ok, to increase the military, how do we find that --fund that? howdy feel about refugees from syria in the united states? jeb bush: the first response ability of our national government is national defense. if you had to pick the one thing for them to do, what would it be? i don't think it would be carrying the mail. i don't think of the amtrak. i think it would be protecting our shores. the way i look at this, whether you have it or not, look at this
from the perspective of a zero-based budgeting. that is the way you should look at it, as a leader. i would fund the first priority first. i would challenge the orthodoxies of everything -- other things. to befense department is challenged, just as much of the veterans administration. the v.a. has a hospital they started it $3 million. now they have $1.8 billion. you cannot make that up. i'll think the president of the new hampshire senate would allow a governor to run away with that kind of spending. there would be oversight. in washington it is kind of out of sight, out of mind i guess. we can reform the defense department. the military programs they are implementing are extremely costly, they take too long. there is a lot of challenging to save money. feasible fact is we are getting the force levels that will put us in a precarious position --
gutting the force levels that will put us in a precarious position. we also have to grow the economy at a faster rate. 4%, it brings at in revenue more than exotic forms of taxation the left proposes. last night, i don't know if anyone is keeping a meter on the promises of taxes raised of spent.g and -- bernie sanders has proposed $18 trillion in spending. he is warming up. will createeconomy more revenue than people imagine. you get the denominator growing, the numerator does not look as bad. you deal with the structural problems on that side. as a relates to syria, here is the deal.
the first priority for our country is to create a strategy to take out isis and assad. that should be the first strategy to deal with refugees. [applause] i proposed one. i went to the reagan library and proposed it. i've proposed a no-fly zone. if assad was going to continue to bear upon the innocent people in his country, the united states could destroy his air force and the ability to land planes. that would solve that problem like that. now it is more complicated with russia. we need to leave the role -- world. army, theld be one remnants of the syrian free army that we have promised to help and avoided. all of this we need to get back into the game and create a saison's --rt, with safe zones to deal with this
challenge. if you saw a early this week or late last week, isis is now -- it looks like isis has killed more than scores of people in turkey. this is spilling out into the region. the region needs to be engaged. havey, jordan, they millions in refugee camps in these countries. we need the persian gulf countries involved. they should be financing a majority of this. former airhave controllers and people who know exactly where to launch these. we need to tell lawyers to take a step back. this is protecting our national security. the best way to deal with the refugee problem is to deal with the source of why we have it. we need to make sure people are screened, but we should dissipate in that as well -- participate in that as well. i do not think we should abandon
the core values, the goodness of our country. i do not think we're that small. we have to recognize that we have internal problems, for sure. i get that. whatever the number is being proposed -- if the option is eadings, that beh is the option for many of these people, we should play a role in that as well. we should be leading the world to eradicate these problems the cost this. -- caused this. germany is excepting 8000 refugees. this is going to be a huge problem, to use a term that other candidates use. those problems will play out unless they get engaged to help create a more stable syria as well. yes sir. >> i don't know i have a need to say this. your brother made a lot of
difficult decisions. by and large i did not agree with all of them, but i think he was a great president. jeb bush: you can say that all of you want -- all you want. >> as it relates. jeb bush: he is a mighty fine brother. >> we know that if the obama administration had followed through with your brother's decisions related to iraq, probably we would not be in this mess today. one question, two-parts. where do you differ from your brother? the other question is related to education -- most republicans prefer to have educational decision-making devolved to the states. you are a strong supporter of common core -- that leads to a lot of decisions in washington. jeb bush: where i differ for my
brother, i am taller, and younger. probably not as smart. the context for presidents are always different. my dad was president in 1990 -- 9089. the year 2000 was different. the difference in my brother's administration was, we got attacked. he became a wartime president. i think he did next remarried job keeping us safe -- i think he did an extraordinary job keeping us safe. [applause] as a result, the other areas where a president can put pressure on congress not to spend, and create discipline probably subsided. he was focused, as he should have been as commander in chief in the greatest fighting force ever assembled. i am not faulting him, i am just saying that you can check my record as governor. cut taxes every year. $19 billion.
john stossel has done a report which i like because it made me look the best of all governors running. we cut spending more than any of the governors running. been adjusted for the times in which we were serving and population growth. on my -- on a per capita basis we cut spending. there was a 35% general revenue reserve. who knows, we might of had eight hurricanes hit us. these things matter. i was a committed conservative all the way through. that is what i would be as president. all of the, i wanted authority on education. i would've taken a lump sum from washington dc. give me the title i money, that is for the schools that are low performing. giving -- give me the id a money. give me all of the early childhood literacy money.
there are 30 programs for pre-k. lump them together, give me my percentage, give me the outcome you want and leave me alone. that's what i would've wanted. 80% of the bureaucrats in the department of education in tallahassee were there to fill out forms for the 10% of the money that we got from washington dc. i do not believe common core or higher standards. if the states want to have them come a great. if they want different standards, fine. make them high. the idea they are common is fine. [applause] gains ande greatest learning in any state. i am not prone to exaggeration. compared to others at least. the greatest gains in learning
happen because we raise standards, had real accountability, rated schools a-f. every mom and dad knew that an f was not as good as in a. parents were given vouchers when their student got a f to go to a high-performing school. we got rid of the insidious idea that if you are in fourth grade and you don't read, there is going to be divine intervention to get you through the day. you cannot do science and math if you cannot read. all of that with state driven, that is the way it should be. there should be no federal involvement in the creation of standards, content, or curriculum. [applause] if the federal government doesn't reauthorize the k-12 law, which they are about ready to do. this is maybe the one thing the republicans do which will put a lid on the role of government involvement. i will do it by executive order.
this is important. can we get to the bigger conversation, which is a third of our kids are college or career ready. who thinks that is good? think of the shattered lives that end with that result? that is where we are. we have dumbed it down where everyone is above average. now we are threatened with lowering standards to get into college. lowering the content for reading and math. you're basically redoing high school math and reading at college level. we are putting student loans on top of the backs of students who cannot graduate in four years life or your degree. that is the path we are on. highverse that we need expectations and zero tolerance for the attitude that some kids can learn and some cannot. in florida we proved that otherwise. to put it into perspective, we were 50th out of 50 in
graduation rate. that's bad. one would be good. >> my math is bad. evenush: we could not whisper -- thank god for your favorite state. there is a better way to do this, but it needs to be state led in driven. -- and driven. yes there, in the back. it is dark back there. offollowing in the same vein education, as a college student i was listening to the debate last night. bernie sanders said he wants free college education. hillary clinton was lower interest rates. how would you deal with the issue? jeb bush: let me give you good news of your children in florida.
in-state florida students have the lowest tuition. of any state in the eyes states -- in the united states. we have a bright future scholarship program that is merit-based. any person with a gpa of x ans s at of y give a full ride. you still have to pay the out-of-pocket costs. we put a cap on tuition. we started it, but it has been enhanced or medically under --ernor scott, we now have a dramatically under governor scott, we now have a system where schools are measured on outcomes. they have to produce what we expect them to. [applause] decree -- degree completion for public universities -- we measure it in six years. what a week holiday six your t we call it adon'
six-year degree? i don't have sympathy for this, i graduated in two years. i worked. i was motivated. i was madly in love with my wife of 42 years now. i wanted to get going with my life. i don't know why kids are lucky like i was. you can graduate and work. 18 hours, that would be a big load for college. in manyot get that schools because professors do not teach the same way they might have in the past. assume for a moment that you actually studied an hour for every hour you took. i don't remember that, in my case, maybe i did. -- 36 up to 30's hours hours. i don't remember in my adult life working less than 36 hours any week since 21 years old. this is ludicrous, to tell a 21-year-old kid or in
18-year-old kid that they cannot there being told to do. if you want to save money on student loans, get them through faster. make sure there is really count ability. ntability.ou we have a pool of money in florida, if you have degree completion rate that do not meet the objective, you get money taken away. the schools that you better get money given to them. now we have a system where everyone is competing to do the things we want more of. that is not cite majors, but majors in degrees that can actually give someone a job. doing it in four years instead of six. with the government support and tuition support create something that is probably the best deal people will get in florida whether it is community colleges
or higher education. there is a lot of those ideas that exist in this country. the federal government should get out of the way and be a partner for innovation from the bottom up. [applause] across the spectrum a policy. the government in washington is just not designed to come up with a creative idea. impulses to take power away. as you take power away, you take away the innovative spirit. intentions, and over 50 states never works compared to trying a florida way. instinctively, whatever subject matter comes up, i default to shifting power back to states, rather than have the government be the end-all be-all. focus on priorities, keep us
safe. the infrastructure that is nationwide. the things that really matter for our safety and growth. that is of the federal government should work on. [applause] yes, ma'am. >> i have a question. she is worried about our natural resources. whether or not they will run out. with all of the immigrant population coming in, if we bring in refugees. is that what it is? >> i was concerned about that for a long time. jeb bush: i share your concern about protecting natural resources. we have a duty, we are the dominant species on the planet. our nature is a gift from god.
we are children of god. i simplify this. we have a duty. we have a duty of conservation and protection. the good news for america is we are a big, big country. we are full of abundance. we can grow our economy. we can be respectful of the natural environment and find common ground. i will resort to my experience in florida. in sort of we have the largest land purchasing programs in the country. it was called florida forever. it was a bipartisan consensus in the states that every year we $300 million of pristine florida before got developed. -- it got developed. before a developer would come and buy it and put housing on it. this was in the ecosystems we needed to protect. florida is different from new hampshire. i have been traveling around this beautiful state.
our trees do not change colors. i have never seen more people mountains and hills. [applause] florida has good things going on. it also has an extreme nearly fragile environment. -- extremely fragile environment. we had a duty to protect florida. the way we did it was to grow our economy. that provided resources. if you have ever been to south florida, there is no place like it. i am proud of it. it is a resource unique to the world. it has all sorts of fauna, critters, and fish that need to be protected. it is also our water supply. it is another place for you need to share the resource and do it in a respectful way. under my watch we cleaned up the everglades and protected the
water resource for nature and a growing population. i think that is the way you do this. you do it respectful of nature, but you also recognize we have to allow people -- i worry as much about the other things that go on. the most i worry about is how much money people have in their pockets. i'm not worried about my rear end. i am worried about people's while it's. --wallets. people are really struggling. he should be sensitive to that. government is putting a lid on people's aspirations in that regard. everything i -- every time i think about he needs of the country, or in my case when i was governor, i was also mindful of the fact that we should be growing income. let it rip. came from the coast.
jeb bush: you are yielding a time? well done. >> thank you, governor. thank you for being here. thank you for your years of public service. jeb bush: what is your ministry? >> i am a chaplain at the university of new napster. to my left is the associate the roman catholic student center. jeb bush: i am on your team. >> we are all children of god. jeb bush: that was a stupid joke. >> i make them all the time. we would like to offer you a simple prayer. like you, we are prayer -- people of faith. our leaders to ease
the suffering affected by climate change. >> we pray for the poor and vulnerable, those most affected by climate change and fossil fuel extraction. god of all creation, here are prayer. fracking,se harmed by coal mining, natural gas pipelines and offshore oil drilling, god of all creation, hear our prayer. >> to pray for our leaders to open her heart to climate creation,od of all hear our prayer. >> as someone who did great things in florida, i would like to know how you would lead us facing climate change.
jeb bush: i appreciate you being here. thank you for the yield. that was an elegant way to get to the task at hand. the answer i gave applies to this issue as well. i think we can solve more problems when the economy is growing, when people's income is growing. the solution cannot be to hollow out economic activity. you could reduce carbon emissions, and we could increasingly move towards poverty. i do not think that is the answer for our country. in fact, that is kind of the path we are on. $2000able income is now lower than it was six years ago. in a recovery, that has never happened before. we have these big structural changes going on around the world. some people can write this off that you have to get used to it. this is the end of the american era, except it. i don't believe that. here's how i would answer question. -- your question.
i answer it as a resident of miami. my home is probably 12 feet above sea level. i am on a high point in our community. 12 is about as high as it gets. rising sea levels, rising tides, in a place like florida -- it was not engineered and designed for any kind of major increase in time. -- tied. the first thing we have to do is it that. we have to create policies of adaptation. secondly, the proper role for government in this is, in my mind is to spend more money on basic research to identify the next struct of energy resources that will be competitive with all of the others that we use now. you can be how that plays out if you follow energy policy in our country. natural gas, because the fracking and hydraulic drilling
has had a dramatic increase in reserves. the price has gone down fivefold. it has gone from double digits dollars a thousand cubic feet. it has reduced carbon emissions by 10% in the last decade as we convert from coal and other heavier sources of carbon is -- energy. it is also challenge the other sources of energy. seller has seen a direct reduction in costs. baseline is dropped. wind is competitive today. in a place like iowa, where you have ample wind, consistent wind , you know have wind being built without any subsidies. -- in our country at least, we are investing in these long-term things and creating an environment where competition forces down cost and
change, creates the desired effect. that is the intersection where we need to be. solving problems, and growing the economy at the same time. >> [indiscernible] jeb bush: that would not be my suggestion. it would be a bad deal. it would be a horrible deal. it would increase utility prices exponentially. the people hurt would be low income people, moderate income people. the people that all of these people care about. [applause] >> you mentioned entitlements. we all know that social security will not go on forever if we do not make changes -- are they going to run out of money in 7-17 years, depending. what kind of things would you be doing specifically to make sure that is not happen. ensure social security for seniors, kids, grandkids.
bush: i responded to someone someone exact question, in the back yelled at me, it is not an entitlement. anis actually not entitlement, it is a supplemental retirement system. i want to be clear, entitlements would be obamacare, medicare, medicaid. those are entitlement based on certain criterias, income or age. social security is an actuary unsound supplement retirement system. it was not that way when it was created, when wife expectancy was64 -- life expectancy 64. and retirement age was 6i-5. -- was at 65. ira member of adults in talking about franklin roosevelt like he
was a socialist. that is the most conservative idea. imagine if somebody propose that in washington dc. that would be considered paul ryan or someone like that, not on the left. how do you fix it? the same way we fixed it in the 1980's. you have to get people together from both parties. the simple way of doing this is to raise the cap for higher income people. and to moderately, over an extended. iod ofe -- extended per time raise the retirement age. protect and preserve it for those who have it. this would be going forward, for every month -- you have taken a month for every year, over time you would phase it in. that would bring about solvency for social security, just as it did in the 1980's. the bigger challenge is medicare and medicaid -- medicaid.
they are growing at a rate that is three times the rate of all of the other spending. the power of compounding ultimately will consume everything else. today, or yesterday i proposed a way to deal with medicaid, which was to get it out of the hands washington. allow states to take the medicaid dollars plus cpi going forward, and take the kids's is -- insurance money, put it in a lump sum, take the obamacare subsidies and put them together and allow the legislatures and governors of states without the mandates that exist right now to craft a first century insurance policies that are focused on catastrophic coverage, low premium, expand the amount of hsa's. assume for a moment -- this is radical -- poor people make informed choices when you give them information. they will not -- this idea that somehow people in poverty cannot make decisions for themselves.
that perpetuates poverty. that is wrong. i have seen examples were the opposite is the case. poor people are poor, they are capable of making decisions. that is the bigger challenge. in the next two weeks i will unveil a plan as it relates to medicare. [applause] >> i have a question. medicaid,eople with you have obamacare, and people like me who work full-time. i cannot afford insurance. i do not qualify for obamacare and i am bipolar. i fight every day to get medicaid, medicines, it is not cheap. when you have things like this, you want to be productive. in order for me to get insurance i have to qualify for disability. i can work, i am capable, i can run your campaign, i could do
anything. jeb bush: i am looking for someone. >> the point is, i am here, doing my job. i do not want to accept government money. people like me fall to the crux -- cracks. have you help me -- how do you help me? bush: we would give credits to every person that does not have company insurance. that credit would be equal to what they could purchase in whatever means they can have. basically took the credit amount. then if you allow the states to go forward with new plans, states could add to that. small business, this either or problem you face as an individual, it also applies to small businesses.
businesses either provide full boat insurance with all mandates and costs, or nothing. -- i would say small businesses could also make contributions to people's individual insurance. so that way it is not either or. they would get a tax deduction for jeb bush: the final thing, you are completely right, it needs to be reformed. it is already bankrupt, it has grown automatically and when challenges, you are either disabled, which means you cannot work, or you do not do anything here there are ways for people to have partial disability, ,hich i am not diagnosing you but partial disability, there ought to be a partial payment. that makes common sense, but that is not how -- that would require change in