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and the spanish presidency for convening so rapidly. theuld also like to thank assistant secretary general. in the esplanade of the mosque. these incursions have led to a number of manifestations of look
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legitimate anger. whiche repressive acts blindly and the continue to -- humiliation of the palestinian population. we strongly condemn all violence from whichever side against civilians. the number of civilian victims that is been recorded including women and children since the beginning of this month indicates the scope of the violence taking place in the occupied territories. these acts of repression are unacceptable. flagrantesent is finally she never international humanitarian law.
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should no longer be repeated. the international community should not accommodate itself with all the horror of the pallet to -- palestinian people experience on a daily basis. an occupying power should not enjoy total impunity.
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mr. president, the worsening of the situation makes it even more urgent to relaunch the political in ordern a new basis to put an end to the interminable talks to currently in a state of deadlock and make the two state solution a tangible reality. end, the security council must get more involved. the parameters for the solution are known to us all. i know manner should they be questioned. given this, we call upon the two to pacify try more the situation and undertake
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trust building measures. this means israel must put a freeze on the settlements and an end to the attacks on civilians and their incursions. the demolition of houses and forced displacement. in conclusion mr. president we that it's firm belief only through the student -- two that israelis and palestinians will live in peace and security. >> thank you for your statement taken the door -- the floor to the investor from the united kingdom. >> thank you for converging -- convening this emergency meeting.
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it is vital that this council response urgently and effectively to escalating situations. the british government is deeply concerned that the terrorist attacks and violence that we've seen so far this month. weather in jerusalem the west bank gaza or israel. whether committed by israelis rebel as then he and, the british government condemns all exit terrorism and violence. this iss have said doing untold damage to people on both sides. so far this month seven israelis and 32 palestinians been killed over 4400 people have been injured. figures should give us all cause for grave some -- great concern. the immediate priority must be a swift end to the violence and rapid de-escalation.
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i'm pleased the council members have sent this clear and unambiguous message today. the israeli and palestinian people deserve to live in peace and security. those breaking the law either side must be subject to prosecution. let us all call on the israeli and palestinian leadership to take immediate tips to deescalate. the current violence began following the heightened tension we saw last month around temple mount. this is a somber reminder of the delicate balance in jerusalem and the need to respect sensitivity over holy site. final that it's preserved.
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the british government remains in close touch with the israeli-palestinian and your we haveuthorities stressed that security restrictions must be lifted immediately. and hope othere council members will join us. the current cycle of takes us further away from the goal. the political inside of this must make clear that two
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state solution is not just desirable but essential. as ever, united kingdom stands ready to work closely with its counsel and are other international partners. there any route that can help achieve a meaningful lasting solution. such a solution is long overdue. next week is the 70th anniversary of the united the past 70he 68th years the human has been trying to find the answer to the situation in israel. we must keep striving to achieve a two state solution.
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>> thank you for your statements i give the floor to chile relate/. i would like to thank jordan for requesting this meeting. and to the president for convening. condemn in thewe strongest terms the attacks in clashes that have taken place over the last week in jerusalem. better taken the lives and injured israeli and palestinians. isse this extreme violence essential to stop. we would like to make a special appeal to israeli and palestinian authorities to persevere with steps that promote peace along these lines.
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the continuation of the policy of settlements contribute -- continues to undermine all efforts. we continue to believe that the two state solution is the best alternative. we would like to repeat our conviction that it will not be without dueaintain consideration to the palestinians to exercise their right to self-determination. reopen the dialogue in order to cheap peace is a challenge we cannot shirk.
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the council should contribute to this responsibility. we believe it is very important for the international community and the security council to support measures for peace. mind, we support the proposal that strives to lay the groundwork thank you very much ago the floor to the investor venezuela. >> thank you mr. president. i would like to thank you for convening this important meeting. we like to think the assistant for hisy-general briefing.
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despair that overwhelms palestinian youth and the illegal occupation that is a clear proof of the need to reach a negotiated and inclusive political solution. they form part of a deliberate strategy to deprive the population of the right to an independent state. this violence justifies the expansionist policies. venezuela reasserts its full support.
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and the relevant general assembly rebel -- resolutions and security council resolutions. the raising of the flag of the palestinian state showed the commitments of the overwhelming inority of the organizations support of the inalienable rights of the palestinian people. in closing we would like to say we support all initiatives aimed at finding a definitive solution. this council should act quickly urgently to given u.s. protests to the negotiations taking account of the fact that the affects seriously peace and security and stability in the middle east. this council should assume this responsibility and focus on resolving the threat to international peace and security.
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if really within the security council we do wants a solution states, this security council is able, it can recommend that palestine be accepted within the united nations as a fully fledged state. on the basis of two states a la needs to exist as a fully fledged state. the security council could send a clear statement which would condemn the israeli violence and call upon them to stop their violence. in the resolution which calls for sustainable peace. we are convinced that the security council can and must do something for palestine and its
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people. be asolve this would courageous step forward. to negotiations between israel and palestine. thank you mr. president. i give the floor to the investor of nigeria. president, are people and think thatgoodwill violence and killing in jerusalem has become a threat to security. what began as questions about the holy site.
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have a rise in death souls. that's complicating. we condemn the killing in unequivocal terms. -- must exercise more strength. and preserve the score of the holy site. is indication at this time that the causes of the violence must be. urgently and comprehensively efforts must be made to restart the peace process, both sides must work to create the condition that will facilitate this process. context, what are the
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israeli authorities to put an immediate decision in the occupied palestinian territory. this is illegal under international law. recall an original leader and encourage them to resume negotiations. roadmap. the era of peace initiative. conflict, but a two state solution is inescapable and indeed inevitable.
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we take this opportunity to reaffirm our support for a two state solution. thank you. >> i give the floor to the investor of angola. thank you for calling this in the open debate we will deal with the israeli-palestinian issue. wants to highlight our extreme alarm for the situation. including the actions by extremists. we believe the current state of
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affairs is due to the for historiceople injustice imposed upon them. also the israeli government and unacceptable actions. contributionngful to a peaceful solution. the current violence is deplorable. we urge those involved to avoid such action which only serves the purposes of extremist elements on both sides. the prime minister stated his readiness to engage in negotiations. it is our hope that such
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just an acceptable for palestinian leadership. this development is a cause for if this gets and worse the mitigations could be disastrous. sidesongly appeal to both to reinforce political dialogue. at this time it is especially important religious and community leaders to include that direction. the main responsibility of the security council should be to set the course for the peace process. setting parameters for negotiations and a framework for
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final state of the game. this unfortunately seems in the more a piece of rhetoric. finally, we are ready to .onsider i thank you mr. president. i now give the floor to the investor of lithuania.
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>> lithuania's extremely concerned about the violation. respecting international law including international civil rights and international humanitarian law is heard on. the israeli and palestinian have the responsibility to restrain inflammatory rhetoric. to cease violence. we are both sides to commit themselves. this will only lead to more
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grief. astea international communities to remain firm. real and concrete actions must be taken now. power torything in the -- minister called step-by-step they shouldn't learn to act together. the everything or nothing approach will bring neither solution or peace nor security. the court should and actually contributes. committed torongly the two state solution.
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>> thank you very much for your statement. and now with your permission i will make a brief statement in my national capacity. i would like to thank jordan for requesting this meeting. and the assistant secretary general. for his breathing. express deepest concern for the situation we're seeing. and the regret for the loss of life and a strong condemnation of the violence including ask of in the faceea and of this violence we cannot simply look at ourselves. we need to look at its underlying causes amongst these
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is no doubt the lyrical vacuum. and to comply the agreements we cannot allow extremists to play a leading role in jerusalem. the holy site for muslims christians and jews. it should not be used by militants or extremists. this is an appeal that the international community should make. spain greatly values the role that jordan is playing in this and we trust that a constructive dialogue with israel will contribute to the rebuilding ability in the framework of this management arrangement that was agreed decades ago.
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jerusalem needs to be the capital of both states what's most important is to preserve tolerance. how can the international community and the security council contribute effectively to put a stop to the violence? not much can be done without the necessary commitment. this is why the role of the political leader is essential to establish reestablish calm. we hope to see great moderation by the political leaders of israel and the palestinian authorities to avoid even greater worsening of the situation. together with an appeal to should that avoid any
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act of excitements over the use of force. the international community should also seek to protect lives. examine one of the goals that could serve that objective. it would be athem good idea for the security have the legal report that the office is elaborating to explain the available options. however no appeal to calm. and no attempt to maintain the
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skillet -- status quo will be effective. unless the parties are committed to move towards a political horizon. the situation is very serious, otherwise we would not have met here today. cannot limit itself to making another appeal to nonviolence. all of you know that next week are minister of foreign affairs and cooperation will share an open debate on the middle east this is why we have
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encourage participation at the ministerial level. the very serious events of the past few weeks fully justify the need for this debate. spain considers that the quartet should be very active. when we think that another meeting and a broader format will provide valuable elements for the upcoming debates. perhaps the expanded quartet could be chaired as requested by the russian federation. we need to think of creating a political horizon that will enable us to make significant progress towards a two state solution. without prospects to move towards the existence of 27
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states living side by side in , it will be difficult to and totop to violence guarantee peaceful coexistence. now i go back to my role as president of the security council. there are no further speakers on my list. therefore the meeting is adjourned.
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>> our response to that was quit looking in the mirror. from the very beginning, he said this is nothing i thought about.
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ms. clinton: i think we can all go home now. wow. clay, thank you. i know, as you said, this was not easy to do. but thank you. i want more people to hear stories like that. so that this is not just some political debate about something happening far way.
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but people can really begin to think about standing in the shoes of those who have been victims of gun violence. and trying to understand what e can all do together. clay survived that brutal, hateful attack in her own home. 90 people a day don't survive because of guns. 33,000 people a year die, by homicide, by suicide, or by ccidents, using firearms. i think we are better than that, as a nation. i think we can do something bout that. that is why i have been talking about it. have been laying out my
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olicies toward it. some people say that we should not talk about it. some say we should not shout about it. that i should not shout about it. i think we have to keep talking, but more importantly, we have to act. we have to be willing to take on those who are not in favor of sensible gun safety easures. that includes the nra. and it includes a of people in public life today, who are intimidated. i think that is no longer easible. it's no longer right. what i have said is yes, as president, i will push and achieve universal background checks, something that the majority of americans support and the majority of gun owners support.
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sensible, responsible gun owners support it. [applause] ms. clinton: the brady bill has kept 2 million guns from being sold into the wrong hands. because of that background check, despite its loopholes, prohibited purchasers because they were felons, fugitives, stalkers, domestic abusers, people with serious mental illness. have been stopped from buying a gun. as bad as the gun carnage is, i like to think that at least, 2 million prohibited purchasers were not part of that. i also think it is critically important to close those loopholes.
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close the gun show loophole and the online loophole. back when the brady bill was passed in 1994, online purchases were not an issue. we now know they are. so we have to go for universal background checks and we have to close those loopholes. i have said that if the congress does not cooperate, i would use executive action to make sure that sellers are held accountable. i also believe we should close what is now being called the charleston loophole. under the background checks, if someone applies to buy a gun, the seller has three days, those sellers that are covered, to conduct a background check
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and if it is not completed by the end of three days, the purchaser gets to buy the gun anyway. the reason it's called the charleston loophole, is that the killer of those nine people at bible study in mother emoon -- emanuel church in chafrlston got his gun not because he was eligible, because in fact it was learned shortly after, he was not eligible. he had a felony record. but because of this lophole he -- loophole he was able to go back at the end of three days and buy the gun he used to kill those nine innocent people. nd then finally we have to repeal the broad immunity that has been given to gun manufacturers and sellers in america and -- [applause] -- which has shielded them
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from any responsibility for their sale of guns and ammunition for -- or their manufacture of of either. now, just recently there was some small slimmer of hope when jury in wisconsin found a because guns liable of a straw purchase, which the seller clearly knew to be a straw purchase. a straw purchase is you're not eligible, you're a felon, you've got a domestic abuse order against you, you've been committed. remembering the shooter at virginia tech had been committed for outpatient treatment for mental health, still got a gun. but in this particular case in wisconsin, the prohibited
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purchaser sent somebody else in with a clean record to buy the gun for him. there's video and other evidence that the seller knew that the gun was for somebody else, sold it anyway to the seller. buys it, turns it over to the real purchaser, who goes out nd shoots two police officers. injuring both seriously. and so when the police officer sued the gun seller, the jury ard the evidence and came in with a verdict in favor of the police officers. now, we're going to see whether that case stands up under the broad immunity that's been given to the gun industry. there is really no other industry in america that has
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this kind of blanket permission to be reckless, negligence, sell defective products eefpblet it's just outrageous and we have to repeal that so that those who manufacture guns and sell them are held to some standard of accountability. so i'm going to do everything i can in this campaign to not only talk about this issue and give the platform to people ike clay, who can be much more eloquent than i ever can about why this is an important issue, but i'll also appealing to responsible gun owners. organize an alternative to the nra, which is nothing but a lobby for the most absolutist gun ons that the
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manufacturers and sellers emand. each -- i'll not against guns. my cad -- dad taught me to shoot when i was a little girl. i've even gone duck hunting, standing in the cold water in he cold sun hd rise. once -- sunrise. once was enough, getting in that water and beeth -- getting up that early, i'll tell you. but this is the tactics they use, just scare responsible folks into thinking that the black helicopter is going to land in the front yard and somebody is going sthow -- to show up and take your gnltss that is nonintelligence -- nonsense and it needs to be called aught -- out for what it is. but the fight against the n.r.a. should be led by a new
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rganization of gun owners. i'm collect willing names of people who enjoy hunting, enjoy target shooting but are sick and tired of the violence. so i am very grave. kelly, senator, molly and to clay for sharing what say very painful personal story to try to save lives and i really look forward to working with a groundswell of people cross our country who know we can do better than this. we are better than this. so with that, let me throw this open to questions on whatever
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issues or concerns you might ave. > hi, my name is leslie ruhle. we have snowden on one end of the spectrum and traitor on the other and i want to know where you stand on that. i think, i consider him very close to a patriot and i think the american people needed what he released 478 that's my question time-out secretary clinton: are let me say this.
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i firmly believe that he could have gone public and released the information about the collection of information on americans under whistleblower protection and he could have done it within the tradition in our country that shields people who come forth acting out of conscience to present information that they believe he public should have. i do not know why in addition to releasing the information that you're referring to he felt compelled to steal a lot of information and -- that by any definition had nothing to do with american civil rights, liberties and privacy but instead were about trefts and -- just to ations name two, china and russia --
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do to gather information about us and what our government does to try to prevent that and to get information about them. so if he had been a whistleblower and if he had confined himself to releasing information that i think did provoke the right kind of discussion in our country and has led to some changes which i approve of then i think people could across all spectrums say hey, thank you for bringing this to our attention and thank you for gick us the opportunity to spofpbletd because he took valuable information and went first to chine that -- chine ha -- china and then is now under the protection of vladimir putin, i think that raises a lot of questions about everything else he did. so i do not think he should having to return and
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answer for what he has done. i think, though, we need to continue the balance on civil rights, privacy and security. it's always a challenge and i would -- i do support what the pong passed, the u.s.a. freedom act because i think it did have some good changes and we have to remain vigilant. but it's a balance. it's not all one-sided. if you go too far toward security you do infringe on the legitimate right of americans and that's what we're trying to end. if you go too far toward privacy and, you know, sirts, you can -- civil liberties, you can leave us vulnerable, and we're trying to prevent -- prevent that, too. i -- so that's the kind of hard-choice balancing act i think president obama has been attempting to do and i support changes he has been making from
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the executive level and i support the new legislation hat the congress passed. now just a minute, sir. just a minute. i'll get to you, i promise. but i kind of like to go in a broad sweep. but ok, you stood up. we'll hear from you. where is the microphone. just a mifment i mean it's reat having people so eager. >> after the recent footings, what president obama said is gun control is not enough. what we need is a culture of gun safety and i think we need to add to what we're doing. secretary clinton: i agree with refer that and i like to to what i'm advocating as gun safety measures and the
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gentleman pakeds a very good point. like so many of you, i am reading news on line and i seed a headline, i think it was in the "washington post," which aid some, as i recall, "toddlers are killing more people with guns." i stopped and went, what? why? because the people whose homes they live in. mostly their parents, sometimes their grandparents, have loaded guns in their homes, in their cars and children are curious! thed toler in the back seat pick the begun and shooting his
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grandmother. and the gentleman is buhl right. if you are going to have a gun, please, please exercise gun safety and keep those away from toddlers, young kids and teach a proper respect for guns. one of the worst cases i have read about in the last two weeks is that an 11-year-old boy asked to see the new puppy of the 8-year-old girl who lived near him and the little girl bhor whatever reason said no, she didn't want him to see the puppy. he went home, got his father's loaded shotgun, he went back and he killed her. so i'll -- all i'm ask i think is pretty common sense. we need new legislation to close the loopholes to remove the immunity from liability, to use technology to get instant background checks for real, not just saying it, but ultimately
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people, people have to exercise common sense in dealing with these weapons. and keeping them away from children. should be rule number one in my opinion. so thank you. thank you. this gentleman right there in . e gray clean e your, views on energy but what do you think of shale energy and fracking and gas? secretary clinton: let's give the obama administration a lot be credit for their energy and
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climate change policy. they've been struggling with this and have begun to come out with recommended regulations like, for example, to control methane emissions. i think you also have to have very tough water standards. i think, from talking to experts in the obama administration, and on the outside, here is what they have convinced me of. this is the following. there are some places in our country where this extraction technique may be appropriate if we do more research, and figure out how to cut the methane emissions, and keep the water clean. there are lots of other places where it is not. part of what the federal government needs to start doing is drawing some lines and informing states and localities, and we should also never preempt
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states and localities from saying no. if a local government says, no, not here, they should be able to do that. [applause] ms. clinton: part of the reason why i think the obama administration experts have taken this position is we have to go through a transition. we have to move away from fossil fuels, including gas. gas can be a useful bridge, especially if we move away from oal, and dirtier oil, and some of the really bad alternatives. we want to keep more fossil fuels in the ocean and under the ground. that is why i am against arctic drilling and offshore drilling. because i don't think we should start that. i'm trying to listen to people who i know care a lot about the environment and climate change, and think about what are the smart steps we can take.
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in some instances, i can go along with that, and others, i can't. we need to be moving as quickly as possible to 100% clean, enewable energy. we have a long way to go, but that should be our goal, and we should do nothing to undermine or interfere in our efforts to reach that goal as soon as possible. [applause] ms. clinton: the lady in green right there. this lady right there? >> thank you for taking my question. it is actually a follow-up to that. outhern new hampshire is actually fighting a fracked gas pipeline right now, which i believe you know about. one of our biggest problems is that it is coming through new hampshire, it is not for us, we don't need it, it is for export. one of my concerns beyond the issues of fracked gas is the federal oil commission. what will you do to change ferc? candidates have told us it is a
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ocal issue, it is not, it is under federal control. what can you do to help us? ms. clinton: you have made a very important point. i did not really focus on this until i've been traveling round new hampshire. the concerns that residents have expressed about ferc really are legitimate. the process that ferc's employed does not really give enough weight to public opinion, and locations where pipelines are going through. it does not pay, in my opinion, i enough attention to all of the other issues, whether they be health issues, safety issues, and the like. 'm going to do what i can to try to make it absolutely the ase that ferc has to, in any
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of these decisions, pay much more attention to local communities, and listen to what your concerns are, and do much more to evaluate whatever the consequences, or the downsides f these decisions are. right now, their mandate seems to be only about delivery of energy anywhere, anytime. i don't think that is adequate in today's world. if we are going to have -- hat? [inaudible question] ms. clinton: that's not -- let's not confuse the two issues. when you say supported, they are not paid for by oil and gas. they are certainly, at as a regulator for oil and gas, used o paying attention to what the oil and gas industry does. i will absolutely give you
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that. see, my problem, now that people have raised this with me, if we are going to have a national commitment to do something about climate change, ferc has to be part of that national commitment. that is my view on how we have to alter a lot of parts of the federal government. you know, it is not just the epa that needs to be focused on combating climate change, every part of the federal government needs to be focused. because i want to have a national goal thei said, look, i want to have, by the end of my first term, half a million solar panels installed, and by the end of my term, enough renewable energy to power every home in america. if those are our goals, it is really important that we don't have the right hand doing something different than the left hand, in the old saying. it would be my intention, if regulatory changes are necessary, to undertake those,
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but also appoint people who will be really focused on how everyone works towards this big, overarching, national oal. and not have, you know, kind of have "old-think." there was a time when we needed more energy. some of us are able to remember. being in very long gas lines, at least i remember those days. we were pretty much captive to middle east oil. we had a different mindset. now, we have to change that. i think your question is not only a specific what about a particular decision, but it raises a larger issue about what we are going to do to change our values, our goals. that is what i'm going to try to do. >> secretary clinton, the national student debt level has breached $1.1 trillion. the average student graduating
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in a -- from a new hampshire college will graduate with 30,000 dollars, and honestly, i would be surprised to meet someone with that little. what will you do about students graduating from college? [applause] ms. clinton: great question. let me ask, how many in this room currently have student debt? wow! keep your hands up. how many have ever had student ebt? that is a healthy majority here. that is a great question. your statistics are right. we have 40 million people with student debt that now reaches $1.2 trillion. the first the most important thing is we need to make it possible for every person with student debt, current, and those who have graduated, refinance that debt. you know, that, to me, is the number one about goal. if you think about it, everyone
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else can refinance their debt. corporations can refinance their debt. you can refinance your mortgage, your car payment. why is it that students cannot refinance their debt? the worst injustice to me is that we have had 0% interest rates for years. i want to ask, how many of you know that you are paying an interest rate of at least 7%? yeah. we have people who are paying interest rates far beyond what the real interest rates are. so i wnt everybody to be able to refinance. and then i want everybody to be able to do much more to get into income contingency repayment plans. what is that? this is what i had when i went to law school, so did my husband. we both borrowed money. we worked, we borrowed money.
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the loans we had, when we graduated, we both were teachers. we taught at the university of arkansas law school. my first job was with the children's defense fund, and then with the university of rkansas. i recall making between 14,000-$17,000 per year. we couldn't have paid some big fixed rate based on a high interest rate. we paid on a poly about, as i recall it was like 10%,it took 15 years. it did not have the burden that i hear about because of the high fixed rates. he other thing i would like to do more of his make sure that people who go into our public service and national service jobs get a lower rate, more forgiveness faster, and a discount because they are doing
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something that serve their community. [applause] ms. clinton: then, to have a date certain when their obligations and. if you have been a responsible payer and taken advantage of all of the opportunities that i will provide, there will be an endpoint, and you can tell on that. -- count on that. this is a big deal to me because too many people are being held back because of this debt. you say $32,000 -- that is one of the highest averages in the country. students in new hampshire are bearing. it is a big problem for everybody, but particularly for students here, and i have met a lot of them, who because of their student debt, cannot take jobs that they would like to take, because they cannot afford them. i met a young woman who said she had the job of her life in boston, but she could not afford to pay her student debt, and live there, so like so many
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students today, she is still living with her parents. that is nice, but you deserve the chance to make decisions about where you will live and work. and all of rest of it. that is what i want to do. m [applause] ms. clinton: i will make a very high priority. ok. what does that say? oh, you are from mount holyoke. h a fellow seven sister. does that mean you want to ask a mount holyoke question? ms. clinton: i could see you holding up, and i had to get close to read it. >> my question -- i actually have two if that's ok. >> you talk about empowering women. i was wondering if you are going to do something about
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human trafficking the. my second, which goes along with college, and everything else, how will you and power use of america? ms. clinton: with respect to your first question, human trafficking, i feel passionately about this, and -- i feel passionately about this and have worked on this issue since my days as first lady. in fact, back in 2000, i worked with a coalition of outside activists and members of congress to pass the first ever united states legislation against human trafficking. proud to say my husband signed so that began our efforts on human trafficking. [applause] ms. clinton: i stayed focused on that as senator, and then as secretary of state, worked really hard to do more about human trafficking around the world, and here at home. we appointed a first-rate federal prosecutor who had prosecuted some of the human trafficking cases in the united states, to head the office in the state department to take on these issues.
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we also pressured, through the human trafficking annual study, ifferent countries to change their laws and to enforce their laws. as first lady, i talked to other countries, and they did not understand why the united states was making a big deal out of this. it was part of, in their view, the culture. now, they know that they will be graded every year by the united states government, and that if they are having a failing grade several years in a row, they can lose aid and other benefits from the united states government. it is our tool to get laws passed, and forced, and go after human trafficking. it remains one of the biggest sources of criminal activity and profits in the world.
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sometimes we think of one or two kinds of human trafficking -- the refugees flooding into europe are in many respects a form of human trafficking. they're picked up by smugglers who often abandon them. the children and adults that come across our southern border are often treated the same way. their families pay money to smugglers and traffickers, who, again, may abandon them, abandoned them in the desert. we have a lot of trafficking of people into really exploited labor situation, literally people being kidnapped and put n fishing boats, being changed it -- chained to sewing machines in factories, and of course, we have sex trafficking, wehave poor families who are
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essentially convinced to sell their daughters. i remember being in northern thailand, when i was first lady, and it was before we passed our trafficking statute. part of the reason i was there was to talk to the government to convince them to take this seriously. i went to a hospice for young women, who were the victims of aids, after having been trafficked into the brothels in bangkok, and then, when they were ill, were thrown literally on the street. some of them would make their way back to their homes. their families, who had been paid for them, would reject them. i remember standing by the wheelchair of a dying 12 euro girl, and having the aid workers, who were taking care of her, tell me her story. the aid workers said, you can tell that families who have sold their daughters, by
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driving around these villages -- the huts, the houses, the satellites sold their daughters. this is a deep part of the discrimination against women and girls, a rejection of their mportance, their human dignity, their rights, that it is a deep challenge to change attitudes in many parts of the world about the value of girls, and make the case that educating a girl, over the long run, will be far better for the family, then selling her at the age of 11 or 12, to be either an indentured servant, or a sex orker. this is an area that is particularly a concern of mine because it goes hand-in-hand with the exultation of poor
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-- exploitation of inferior marginalized people and particularly girls and women in many places across the country. thank you. >> back to handguns, recently, australia managed to get away, or take away tens of thousands, millions of handguns. in one year, they were all gone. can we do that? why, if we can't, why can't e? ms. clinton: australia is a good example, canada is a good example, the u.k. is a good example. why? each of them have had mass killings. ustralia had a huge mass killing about 25, 20 or 25
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years ago. canada did as well, so did did the u.k. in reaction, the passed much stricter gun laws. in the australian example, as i recall, that was a buyback program. australian government, as part of trying to clamp down on the availability of automatic weapons, offered a good price for buying hundreds of thousands of guns. then, they basically clamps down, going forward, in terms of having more of a background check approach, more of a permitting approach, but they believe, and i think the evidence supports them that by offering to buy back the guns, they were able to curtail the supply, and set a different standard for gun purchases in he future. communities have done that in our country. several communities have done gun buyback programs.
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i figure would be worth considering doing it on the national level, if that could be arranged. after the terrible 2008 financial crisis, one of the programs that president obama was able to get in place was cash for clunkers. you remember that? it was partially a way to get people to buy new cars, and to get old models, that were polluting too much, off the oad. i think that is worth considering. i do not know enough detail to tell you how we would do it, or how it would work, but certainly dust are you example is worth looking at. [applause] ms. clinton: yes, right there. here comes the microphone. >> thank you. my name is nicole. i would like to thank you for coming to keene state today. i'm studying to be a teacher here, some wondered what your thoughts are on education
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reform, and what you plan on doing for education reform when you become president. ms. clinton: i'm glad you will be a teacher. >> thank you. [applause] ms. clinton: i have to say, keene state has a well-deserved reputation for turning out educators. and i want to ralplaud keane state faculty and students. [applause] ms. clinton: i could talk about is a long time. i will try to be more focused. first of all, i think we have to do more to actually pay attention to what educators tell us about what will work in he classrooms. ms. clinton: that sounds so obvious that some of you are probably wondering, why would
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she say something so obvious? it is because we have been having a very figures debate, a contentious debate, over what will work and what will not work to try to increase educational achievement among ur young people. i think the debate has gotten off base. i think it is too much about the latest fads, the latest products, the latest models, instead of taking a deep breath, and actually talking to experts that have done an enormous amount of research about what really works. i want to get back to what really works. i know that there are a lot of well-meaning people who are really down on the public schools. i just don't believe or sure that -- or share that. i think public schools are the bedrock institution of our democracy. [applause]
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ms. clinton: we need to do more to make them work. here are a couple of observations because this is a much longer conversation. i must say, i am honored to have the support of the teachers of new hampshire and merica in my campaign. [applause] ms. clinton: because of that, i want to be a partner in figuring out what are the best way forward to do a better job, helping kids, particularly poor kids, kids with special needs, kids that comment to school -- who come in to school from literally the first day of kindergarten not as prepared as their classmates are to be successful. i start with early childhood education and universal free kindergarten. that's where i start. [applause] ms. clinton: i think it is a great disservice to ignore the fact that the first five years
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of life set of the child, set up the vocabulary of the child -- we now know from brain research -- even influences the brain and ways that will be easier, less so, and learning -- in learning. the brain research tells us that 80% of your brain is physically formed by the age of three. hat happens in those first three years and then first five years before you go into a formal classroom really depends on the family and the community, and what kinds of support families can be given. i am a strong believer in early education, particularly for kids that have various kinds of disadvantages. i will just tell you a quick story. when bill was governor of arkansas, one of our problems was -- it was, you know, the second poorest state in america, and the teachers were
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the second poorest paid in america. a lot of the families had really serious economic challenges. when you are thinking about, what you do to try to improve the schools? we tackled standards, we raised teacher pay, we did a lot that needed to be done that was overdue, but we also look to this problem about what happens when kids show up that first day. as a result, i began looking all over to try to find an affordable program that could help more low income kids be better prepared. a lot of programs that are the real state of the art are expensive. i would love for our country to invest in them because you actually save money at the end of it -- that has been proven over and over again. but being realistic, we got to
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try to find everything we can do and make it affordable. this was so serendipitous. i was in florida with bill. we were attending some meeting that he had. i was literally in the hotel room, flipping through the paper, and i saw a picture of a professor from israel giving a lecture about program they had started there. i read about it. it was fascinating. it basically said that after a big influx of immigrants from le poor nations like ethiopia, the kids would go to the excellent israeli schools, but they were not achieving. the researchers would say, what's going on here, they are in the schools, is the schools are the only answer, why aren't they doing better? they realize that they had to work in the family in those first five years. i called this woman. i said, dr. lombard, i'm hillary clinton, calling from arkansas. she said, where? i said, arkansas.
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she said, where is that? i said, next to texas, look at a map. i said, if she was coming to the united states, if i could meet with her. to figure out if what they did in israel was transferable to the united states. she came. we began what is called home instruction program for youngsters. the idea behind it is to help the mother become her child's first teacher. to feel confident and competent enough to prepare her own child to learn, doing simple things like talking to her baby. a lot of low income mothers -- when i started doing this back in the 1980's, i said, i bet you are loving talking to your baby, and she said, why would i talk to her, she will not talk back. not because she didn't love her -- , but because shoors because she had no idea that is
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how you build synapses and vocabulary. fast forward, this has been going on for 25 years, and has a great track record. we could do more in the homes helping mothers become their hild's first teacher, but we still need universal prekindergarten so that every kendrick can get that level of preparation so that when they go to that first day of kindergarten, they will have a fighting chance to be successful. i will and there -- end their saying i'm really looking forward to working with the teachers of america to make our education system everything it should be. ok, back here. >> thank you, mrs. clinton. a couple of weeks back, you came and spoke to a large group about the drug issue in our state. we are grandparents raising our 10-year-old grandson because his father, we lost them to an verdose.
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i love keane state because i taught here for 15 years and retired here. would you please say a bit more, even though you are preaching to the choir. ms. clinton: i have to say, you are the third grandmother that i have personally met in new hampshire that is raising a grandchild because of drugs. we did have an incredible town hall here, didn't we? 600-700 people, most of them really affected in some way or another by this terrible epidemic of addiction. in particular, here new ampshire, and next-door in vermont, heroin. the heroin epidemic, which is killing so many young people, and leaving grieving and broken families behind.
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i don't think i would have been talking about this issue had i not spent several months listening to people. in iowa, on my first trip, in this campaign, and then in new hampshire, in keene, on my first trip, i heard about the hair when epidemic -- heroin pidemic. so i began looking into it. nd i know that everywhere i went, someone raised it with me. sometimes publicly, sometimes afterwards, privately. that's why i have a comprehensive agenda, to try to reverse, to begin to reverse this tide of addiction theit includes better preventive efforts, more treatment, something we just do not have enough of. if you do have somebody, and persuade them to seek treatment, only one in 10 will
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get it in a timely way. we do not have enough of it. we are also seeing real progress. i had a meeting about this issue, and i was so impressed by the police chief who has changed the whole way he polices drug abuse and offenses. instead of sending people to jail, they are trying to get them treatment. they're trying to match them with some sort of mentor from the recovery community. they are now equipped with the antidote tory verse heroin overdoses. so we have to change the way we police. we need for more drug courts. drug courts are for more cost-effective than problem. we send a lot of people to prison for minor drug a -- offenses, they come out full-blown addicts we just are
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going at this, i think, backwards. so i am making this an issue because i really believe it's a public health yirb89 as i talked about two weeks ago up in boston with the attorney general and with the mayor, you now, mayor walsh is a recoring -- recovering alcoholic and very willing to paulk -- talk about it because he knows that if someone in his position doesn't talk about it, how is someone to know that there is something they can do, some path forward? but for me it's really about the lives that are affected and all those who are trying to help their loved one or cope with the fact that they can't help or that that person is no longer around. so i appreciate very much your raising this because we're going to keep talking good and try to do more about it. thank you. [applause] you know, i try to be fair by
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going in this little circle here, but there are so many hands! young lady with the red scarf right back there against the wall? here comes the microphone. >> so i'll con -- concerned about your support and endorsement of genetically modified crops in the biotech strifment i understand that there are many benefits to the genetically engineered crops but what about all the risks? i'm not sure there is enough research to be sure they're safe for our bodies and the 1r50eur789 could you explain your support? secretary clinton: well, i strongly sup -- support what the department of agriculture is now doing, which is work toward voluntarily labeling and
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to have more information for consumers so that on bar codes or labels, people can actually know what they're buying. that's got to be the first stefment the second step i support that the department of agriculture is doing is preventing the proponents of g.m.o.'s from stopping states from setting higher standards because i believe that in an area, as you rightly say, we need more research and consumers need better information based on the research we currently have, that it would be a terrible mistake for the industry to be able to use their influence in congress to stop looking into it, finding out more about it. i want more research, too. i think you are right. there are some forms of this that are lifesavers. drought resistant crops are often genetically modified.
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peoplet want to deprive in drought conditions from being able to grow crops that they then can use, unless there is evidence, research that shows that they can do it. on the other hand, we need an ongoing system of doing much more to check out all the chemicals and genetic changes. it's not just gmo's amarin about, we have hundreds if not thousands of chemicals -- i'm worried about, we have hundreds if not thousands of chemicals that we have to determine. i am a huge believer in safety and in the right to know. and i think we are not doing enough on either of those counts . right now, that's where i stand on it. i am not in any way pro, forward, no questions asked.
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i think that's not smart. but i'm also not anti-no questions asked. we have been eating these crops for hundreds of years in different forms, it's just more sophisticated now. i am very much in favor of making sure it is labeled, making sure that no state or local community is stopped from doing what it thinks it's right, and much more money by independent sources in looking , that we have better information in the first place. [applause] hate to not let somebody else ask a question. back here, i've had my back to them the whole time, how about this young lady in the keene state debate -- i'm big on debates, so -- [applause] ms. clinton: i will give you mic.
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thank you. i am a senior at keene state, majoring in holocaust studies. plans wondering what your are for genocide awareness and prevention, and specifically what the plans for the atrocity prevention board would look like. thank you. [applause] ms. clinton: i have to say, i think keene state may be the first college in the country to have a holocaust genocide studies program, right? [applause] join in the and i applause. i think that is absolutely amazing and brilliant to have a atcific curriculum to look holocaust studies and genocide, because we've got to have educated young people and others like you who are equipped to help us deal with a lot of these
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issues. unfortunately, we are living with them. we have to come up with a better response. announce theged to atrocities prevention board when it was first set up in the obama administration -- [applause] ms. clinton: and i did it at the holocaust museum in washington, if any of you have in their. it was the most -- have been there. it was the most appropriate place to make that announcement. i will certainly not only continue it, but look for ways can becomesibility higher so that more people know that the united states has this , and that we will work to find ways to bring people together around, and responses -- around common responses to potential genocide, learning from the past.
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there are so many theoretical and practical aspects to this that deserve a lot of thought. for example, we know that often ethnic, conflicts -- other leadersbal, of groups actually set these genocides in motion. they use the media, we saw that in bosnia, where people who had lived together peacefully for a very long time were set against each other through a propaganda effort on the media that turned neighbor against neighbor and even split families, so we have to understand quickly if something like that is happening , what are the best ways to combat it? we saw the same thing and rwanda.
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we have seen the same thing and the central african republic between christians and muslims. two not only condemn this and speak out against the horrible effects of the holocaust, of genocide, and of atrocities, but we have to really analyze it, and that's why i'm so proud of the course you are doing. what triggers it? what turns people against one another who have been maybe not loving each other, but not killing each other? all of a sudden, something sets them off. how do we try to have interventions that prevent that? a lot of cultures are on a trip wire -- something could set them off. how do we help we other countries -- how do we help other countries with a variety of different cultures understand what they need to do to prevent it from escalating? i am delighted and i hope that those who are in this program
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and graduate from it will find ways in our government, ways in our international organization, and not -- in nonprofits, to help understand what we can do to prevent this from happening in the future. [applause] ms. clinton: this lady right there. yep, right there. here comes a microphone. you. -- yeah. a little more difficult to get through. here it comes. guest: thank you for taking my question. protected the american people and the american economy for decades. then, it was dismantled and we crashed and hit bottom.
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you -- at the as debate, you said you would not be in support of reinstating it. i wonder why. also, if you become president, how would you protect us from rogue banks and wall street? i intend to do just that, and my plan is more comprehensive, more effective, and in fact, tougher. take a look at paul krugman's column today. paul krugman, who i think is pretty amazing progressive basically said i had the better side of this argument. why did he say this? because i fully respect my colleagues who have said, let's reinstate glass-steagall. if i thought that alone would prevent a potential next crisis, i would raise my hand and join, but that is not my assessment.
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because if you look, as krugman , someoday in his column of the major actors who caused the 2008 crash were not big banks and would have never been covered by glass-steagall. insuranceiant company, lehman brothers, they would never have been affected by it. what i want to do was crackdown on the banks by assessing a risky and forcing them -- a risk-fee and forcing them to have to comply with. frank --. frank and tougher -- with dodd potential regulations. i am in favor of breaking them up if they are a threat. but the real threat is the what is called the shadow bank world, the hedge funds. glass-steagall would not do anything about that if it were reinstated tomorrow. i have the greatest respect for
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my colleagues and former colleagues who are really focused on that, but i go further. my proposal, which you can go to my website and read about, goes much further and includes everybody that i think would pose a risk to the economy, including the big banks, but going much further than that. that's why i have taken the position i have. read paul krugman today to understand why. [applause] this young man i think has had his hand up for a long time, and he's got a cheering section behind him. he has brought his own cheerleaders who are -- go right ahead. guest: as a bisexual member of the lgbt community, equal rights is important to me. over the years, your views on this topic have evolved. how do you compare yourself to other candidates that have remained firm on their views , and how do you think you've
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done to change from the past views? ms. clinton: i think if you speak with the human rights campaign or any of the large advocacy groups, they will tell you that they count on me, and that you can count on me. i was the first and only first -- everr to marja gate to march in the pride parade back in the 1980's. i have been a vocal, visible advocate for equality and against discrimination. yes, my views did evolve. i think most people my age would say the same thing. there might be some exceptions, but largely because of my strong opposition to discrimination of any sort and my personal relationships with a lots of people over the years, i certainly included that marriage -- concluded that marriage
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equality should be the law of the land, and i was thrilled when the supreme court made it the law of the land. and i will -- [applause] i will enforce marriage equality, but we've got to go further than that. in a lot of states now, because of the constitutional decision, you can get married on saturday and get fired on monday. we still permit discrimination in employment and in public accommodations, so we have to fast -- past the equality -- pass the equality act currently pending in congress. that will be my highest priority. marriage is not the end of the debate, it is the path along true equality, and you can count on me to fight for you. [applause] ok, up there. yes, ok, here you go. i love your red. [laughter]
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fort: i have been a nurse 25 years in a long-term care setting. we are faced with a lot of challenges that i am sure many people have experienced from medicare cuts to drug companies that gouge people. we recently had an individual that was being caused $20,000 for seven days of medication, which is just not something people have. but in a bigger scheme right now is the nursing shortage that is plaguing the country. it is going to gain momentum as baby boomers retire. new hampshire is experiencing it , the long-term care industry is experiencing it, and the hospitals. do you have any thoughts on what we can do, because when we are looking at standards of care and quality and the things we want for our loved ones, yet people going into the industry are challenged between their workload -- how do we manage
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that and how do we make it possible to raise the number of nurses out there serving our community? [applause] ms. clinton: first of all, thanks for being a nurse. i think people know or should know that nursing care is often the single biggest reason people either get well and recover or not. the nurse is at the center of the health care system in many ways. [applause] ms. clinton: a couple of things about this -- one, the last time i looked, most nursing programs were oversubscribed by people wanting to get into them. were far morehere applicants than there were places for them. i think we should be expanding our training programs, our educational programs, so that we can actually trained more nurses to get ahead of what is a very
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serious problem with the retirement of a lot of baby boomer nurses. the fact that we are not going to have enough of a supply if we don't start trying to fill the pipeline now. there are some excellent programs, but we are going to have to open additional programs. favor of federal support for programs that have a proven track record of turning out excellent nurses so they can slots, more faculty, more , said that they can add to the numbers of people that get into the profession early. i also think it is important that nurses be given more authority in the medical settings in which they work. we know that a lot of nurses are being overworked, they are being shifts, serve very long , because of them now
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the numbers have shrunk and a lot of settings, particularly in hospital and nursing home settings, nursing homes our response -- nurses are responsible for more patients. the nurses i have spoken to have all said this is unsustainable. if you have ever shattered a nurse, which i did back in 2007, it is exhausting. ts' rimsut of patien -- i was in a hospital, stopping to do the checks with doctors, filling out the forms -- by the end of the shift, you are just drained. if you are try to take care of too many patients, the result can be unfortunate. i think on both ends -- more training, more education, more support for this programs, and on to make sure that nurses the job have the support and authority that they need. that's how i would try to approach this.
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one more question. there are a lot of hands up here, mike, so i will let you pick, whoever it is since you are the one -- who did you pick? with your eyes shut. ok. all right. to bring this back to student loans, i am a senior here at keene state in the elementary education department, and the last three years all of my lungs have been through a credit card company because my parents make too much money -- all of my loans have been through a credit card company because my parents make too much money. a said the expected parental income is $30,000 a year. they don't have $30,000 a year to give me. i have extremely high interest rates, and the only way i now have energy -- have any federal support for this year is because i got married this summer. i find my blowing that i am still the same person who has been with the same partner for
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almost six years, and i've had the same parents with the same jobs, income, and financial situation, but now the government says lahaye, we can't we can help you because you got married. before that, i wasn't worth anything. ms. clinton: i can't stand that. i think that's terrible. we are going to change that. ahe fast the -- fafs application is absurd. [applause] we have had kind of a perfect storm. the application turns people off and penalizes people like your parents, so it is a lease-lose. e. lose-los the parents plus loans have been so expensive and way beyond the means of most families to be able to manage.
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the federal government should not be making a profit off of student loans. that is my strong belief. [applause] ms. clinton: we've got to fix the whole system. your example is unfortunately all too common. .ou are the same person if families can make a contribution, fine, but it has to be reasonable. if students can work, i worked, so maybe i am biased, 10 hours a week to get debt free tuition, which is my goal. you never have to borrow a penny -- to pay tuition for public college or -- ersity, so that will [applause] ms. clinton: and it has generally become so wrong. i had a young woman in nevada say to me come of the hardest part about going to college should not be figuring out how to pay for it. the amount of stress and english and disappointment from young
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people and their families is just the odd anything it should ever be. -- beyond anything it should be. the other problem i have encountered from talking to people all this is that a lot of young people who try to start, then something happens and they without, they are stuck the loans and have nothing to show for it because they never got their degree. and the worst offenders are some, not all -- some of the for-profit colleges that are pretty unscrupulous and how they treat students and their parents. and one of the most exploited groups are veterans, who under the new g.i. bill have the educationy to get the , and a lot of these for-profit colleges try to recruit the vets , and then they basically take under one of the
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loopholes in the law, and don't produce results for our vets. there are a number of issues here that i am going to be confronting. the debt free tuition would be a big help to you. that's going to be one of my primary goals -- to make college more affordable and get the debt and hopefully eliminated in a more reasonable way than what you are facing. thank you all very much. [applause] ms. clinton: thank you all. [applause]
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