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election. it puts you in a tough. -- a tough spot. mr. hohmann: aspirational versus angry. are a lot of people who are really angry, and frustrated about the last few years. i think they do but effectively hate anything that is president obama, or conservative, or not. i'll jump is not really a movement conservative. i think it is really hard for a lot of these insider conservatives, establishment conservatives, which aei would be, to grapple with what is going on in the country. everything the party is doing right now is alienating voters and make it harder to win next november. i think someone like arthur sees it happening, and they are torn. he is not an elected official. he is more accountable to the mainstream conservative donors
and scholars in new york mdc, and not the angry base of the party in places like iowa and south carolina. as good as his ideas sound, brooks would have a difficult time winning up republican primary, and i think he would be the first to admit it. really, the three candidates of the moment right now are donald trump, because in, and carly fiorina, none of whom have held public office. host: the people they are talking to are not really the inople that will vote -- other words, the establishment is saying, it is early. mr. hohmann: they are. comthey have been saying that for five months now. sees hard to ultimately donald trump be the republican nominee, in part because the
leads of the party hate him so much, but someone like john kasich, for example, who he mentioned in his laundry list of candidates that are saying the right things. what he suggests very hard in his book, saying, we need to have a heart, and expand medicaid because these people need health care. he is not really getting any traction with people outside of the donor class and the conservative elites in washington. is second: ben carson in just about every national poll. he doesn't even really have business experience, which fiorinalike trump or have. mr. hohmann: i think you will know that they are really getting worried when they start
being more outspoken, and are willing to say, everything he was talking about, donald trump is doing the opposite. either he has not read the book, or he has read it, and is doing the opposite. mr. roarty: let's check back in january. host: i appreciate you being on newsmakers. thank you. >> next, journals talks about his imprisonment in iran on espionage charges. after that, the challenges of the kurds seeking an independent state in iraq. then, as obama on the future of u.s. troops in afghanistan. >> he said from the beginning, i
look at the mirror, and don't see a president. my response to that was don't look in the mirror. from the very beginning, he said, this is not something i have ever thought about. a," aight on "q and discussion about mitch daniels and his d decision to not run for president in 2012. >> i became convinced that he is very competitive. i think if he had made a decision to do it, he would have had his heart and soul in it. from the very beginning, is not something he thirsted after. >> tonight at 8:00 eastern and pacific on "q&a." after appearing on comedy central's "the daily show" with john stewart, a newsweek reporter was imprisoned. is the president was the basis
great american political journalist, candy crowley. for nearly three decades, americans and people worldwide have looked to candy for coverage of politics that is insightful, objective, revealing, and tough, but honest. over her career, she has transverse the general listing -- traversed the journalistic politicalering every figure in recent memory, including every president since jimmy carter, including members of the senate. she has worked in all 50 states and around the globe, covering not only politics, but many historical events. she has one more awards for journalism than i .ave time to realize tonight
if you are interviewed by candy, you can count on several things, intense questioning, intellectual integrity, studied knowledge of every issue, and until she probing gets the truth. we are very very proud to have her as a fellow the semester. i am honored to introduce her. she will be our moderator this evening. ms. crowley: thank you. [applause] .oodness i am just going to really briefly introduce these two gentlemen because i think they need a bit of a setup for those who do not know why they are here together. , amy left, maziar bahari journalist and cell maker. next to him is tim greenberg, who is executive producer of "the daily show." the first question is why are they together.
i will have tim set up something from "the daily show," for you all to see. mr. greenberg: i think we are starting with a clip from "the daily show" to get you in the mood. this is a clip from a short series we did on iran, where we traveled through iran, right before the elections back in 2009. justoint was basically present the country to americans , and one of the people that we maziar interview was bahari. [video clip] the islamic republic of iran. a nation and of people -- in a upheavel.
let us not forget, these people are evil. just what is it that makes him so evil? i had not signed up for twitter, so the only way to find out was to go and see for myself. ♪ at the airportwn on my 36 birthday, i was completely alone. no american embassy, no alcohol, not even exposed ankles. i have a wife and children, please don't hurt me. even leaving the hotel presented the essential risk -- potential risks. my producer, tim that as long as hein
was with me, he had nothing to fear. i made contact with my translator. we went to coffee shop for a clandestine meeting with maziar bahari. i was told to go by the codename, "pistachio." i asked him the question on every westerner's mind, why is this country so terrifying? in one word, misunderstanding. they do not know how to talk about the other side. i have written about that for newsweek magazine several times. did not understand a word of that. can you translate that for me? >> you need to read about it. >> what did he say about it? >> he said that i have written about it for newsweek magazine several times.
thatwill need someone speaks english. the one thing i did understand is the entire country is evil. is not evil. iranians and americans have much more in common than difference. >> what do i have in common with you? also theda is number one enemy of iran. if you kill an iranian, you will go to heaven -- >> enough of his western educated newsweek double seat. -- doublespeak. mr. bahari: that is a portion of the first when you aired, clearly aimed at poking fun of americans views of iran. something went amiss after this was aired. mr. greenberg: right. we were there right before the
elections, and it seemed like the more liberal candidate was going to win. in fact, when we were there, the mood, at least where we were, you would see these green ribbons, which were the symbol of his campaign. a lot of young people were driving around with the green .ibbons it seemed like it was really a time when things were going to change, like there was a desire for change for more liberal society. we went there right before the election, thinking, gray, we will cover this, and this will a time to introduce america to iran. it turned out that did not happen. in fact, the exact opposite happened where the powers that be arguably stole the election, and things clamped down. ms. crowley: there were street demonstrations and government forces cracking down. you, as a reporter, were following this.
tell us what happened. the day after the election, take us from there into your imprisonment. mr. bahari: basically, what happened, as tim said, for months, people were in a euphoric mode. it really did not matter that much who was the person, but they really did not want to have the one leader. to put things in context, if you have a supreme leader with ultimate power, and then the president, these are two people who iranians, many iranians, are ashamed of. it is as if you have donald trump and kim kardashian as president and vice president. [applause] -- [laughter]
mr. bahari: maybe i just gave him an idea. you really want to get rid of -- kim kardashian. people wanted to change. that is why they voted for the other candidate, who was not someone who believed in democracy. he was the prime minister of iran in the 1980's, when many atrocities happened. he was talking about opening up this day a little bit. people were kind of euphoric. iran,im and jason came to which was two or three weeks before the election? mr. greenberg: right. we left about will be before. -- about a week before. government, we
do not know what was going on. how government was some allowing journalists to come. was inajor news agency iran. people were getting ahead of themselves, calling this the "green revolution," and not movement. the election happened, and everyone, based on all of the surveys, and i had seen one of them, i reported it for newsweek before the election musabiryone thought wa was going to win. he washey announced that behind. the next morning, it was as though a dark cloud was over to
ruehran. it was a dramatic change. what to do.t know the election was on friday. on saturday and sunday, people were thinking what to do. people said, we are going to the streets. the organizers were asking people to come to the street. i thought, maybe 10,000 people would come, chant slogans, and then go home. 2:00, imeeting around got to the demonstration at 5:00, and i could not hear anything. i went to the revolution street, which is the main street in to ehran. i was on that street in 1979 as
a young boy. scene repeated 30 years later. millions of people, and according to the statistics, it peopleween 2-2.5 million get backsilently to their boat. that was repeated a few days. i recorded it. there was an attack against the paramilitary base. that was an anomaly, really. i reported on that. to make sure it is clear, he was working for newsweek at the time. mr. bahari: for newsweek and a major news program and the u.k. -- in the u.k. the supreme leader came to the
prayer ceremonies and said people had to go back home, otherwise they would be responsible for the bloodshed. on saturday, there was a massive crackdown. they beat up -- there were thousands of guards. we call them ninjas because they were dressed dark, black shields . we had not seen these people. we did not know where they were coming from. they were beating up young women, children. it was horrible. i saw some of the most horrible scenes that i have seen in my life on that day. i had been working in africa, afghanistan, iraq. it was quite dramatic. the day ended with a picture of the woman shot in the head. we saw the dramatic picture of her blood flying from her nose
and mouth. i went to sleep, and the next a few men came to my house, i was staying at my mothers house, and arrested me, and took me to prison. ms. crowley: the story, i don't know how many of you have seen, there is a book out that you , "rosewater, titled ." a film, directed by john, called , "rosewater. in many a family story ways, but it is a story of that imprisonment for 118 days. the link here is when you were being interrogated, they played the clip from the "daily show." mr. bahari: when i was arrested,
they took me to the interrogation room and within a few minutes, by and take your -- my interrogator told me you are spying. i said, do you mind telling me who i am spying for. they said the cia and newsweek. i said, my magazine? they said it is common knowledge that is part of american intelligence. i was in touch with someone -- i hadholas glenn interviewed him. they thought it was nicholas burns.- sorry, nick they thought i was in touch with nick burns.
they said, you were in touch with nick burns, a government official, and that is why you are working with the cia. it was all of this conspiracy theory coming together. they were charging me with espionage in the absence of any real evidence. i was not a spy. they had to bring forward the dig is evidence, including my appearance on "the daily show." ms. crowley: which they took, or said they took, seriously. mr. bahari: it says that i am a spy -- yes. tim, you are back in the united states at this time, when was your first knowledge? mr. greenberg: i think some of the other people that we interviewed had been arrested at that point.
there is one e-mail, and i went back and checked this to make sure he told us to do this, but there were other parts of the interview where he spoke much more aggressively against the .egime i wrote an e-mail to say, are you ok, what do you want us to do? , evend, please air it those more difficult remarks. we proceeded. i don't know how exactly we found out. i think from the press, we found out that he had been arrested too at that point. for us, it was extremely uncomfortable. even though people say we are journals, we are not. show" we are not
journalists. it was a comfortable that my world of silly comedy had in some way.eality the entire time, i felt, i'm in over my head, i should not be involved in this. that was the striking thing for me. we thought we were doing something that was safe and silly, and it turns out there's not that much separation between that world that we live in and a very much darker side that i have seen in the movies, i see on tv, i know it exists, but the is being it exists and used as a form of torture, it went way beyond. there was torture, other pieces of evidence brought spyo prove that you were a for america. talk a little bit about the process that you went through. we should say, first of all, your father was also imprisoned
regime -- shawot regime, and his sister was also imprisoned. you had, and this was very effective in the film, conversations with your dad about what to do here. talk about your evolution of how you thought you would behave, and eventually, what happened. mr. bahari: growing up in a political family, having witnessed the revolution and a , somehow prepared me for getting arrested. i had been arrested a couple of times when i was younger, in my teenage years, but just for a .ay or 3-4 days actually, the second time i was arrested was because i was having coffee with my girlfriend .
i was 16 or 17, i believe. they rested everybody in the coffee shop, and took me to the most dangerous prison in tehran at that time. the age ofison at 17, and my crime was having coffee with a girl. they said it was deserving public morality. i asked different people, what is your crime? they said, murder, rape. i was there with common criminals, dangerous criminals. i thought maybe i was a bit prepared. you cannot really be prepared for something as dark, and as ridiculous as this.
they may have felt guilty about what happened, but you cannot really prepare yourself for something. i was not prepared. i knew that there were many secret people -- stupid people, and they have no sense of humor, it firsthand.ed i cannot believe it. during those 118 days, because i was 107 days in solitary confinement, i did not get any new information. my information about the revolutionary guard, the regime, the paranoia really deepened. i understood how much they hated jews, for example. i realized how much they regard hatred.ith envy and i went through different periods
during my interrogation. in the beginning, they charge me with espionage. there was beatings, psychological torture, mostly, know, solitaryou confinement is the worst type of torture because you are deprived of all your senses. you cannot touch anything or see anything that the walls around you. you do not hear anything. that was the worst type of torture. that i could get out of the solitary confinement to go to the interrogation room to be beaten, to have some human contact. after the interrogation ended, they started to ask me about my private life and sex life, how may people i had slept with, how many times. it was getting from ridiculous to more ridiculous.
it was basically like a dark comedy. comedy i have seen come from dictatorships that take themselves seriously. even on "the daily show," your mitt romney are funny, but the jokes about donald trump are even more funny because he takes himself or mitt romney.n my interrogation became my muse. i wrote an article for newsweek called "10 days in and i iranian jail." anytime he said something stupid , i was making a mental note.
color to it to add as well. basically, he did not have any other human contact is well -- as well. he spends all his time in the interrogation room. he was tired of talking to his buddies, of the revolutionary guards. sometimes he would confide in me, tell me about his personal life. i could hear his conversations. even sometimes when he was beating me, he was talking to his wife. i remember one day, he was holding my ear in his hand, twisting my ear. it was really, really painful. his phone rang, and he kept on ear.ing my while he was talking, he let go of my ear.
he hit me on the head and said, i'm talking on the phone, be quiet. ms. crowley: there is no rationale here. we don't know how to play it is multilayered. i tried to talk about it in the book. , ase confessions they had whole ceremony around torture in beating and getting confessions. it has to come from amusement from people within the regime and people within the revolutionary guard and the intelligence agency. ordinary iranians do not believe in forced confessions or people appearing on television confessing against themselves. byn you read the article people close to the revolutionary guard or hard-liners in iran, they really relish this.
they are perfecting it. it is better lighting, better staging. books -- they can be more intellectual now. these to just be the corolla -- qoran, is become almost a torture sport. is torture spectacle. things that led to my rest among all these different journalists was this islamic notion that they believe in that it is making an example of someone. in iran we have many public hangings. when you ask a government official what you hang people in public, they said they want to make an example of these people. they call them drug smugglers. i was arrested to make an example of a journalist, of a
filmmaker so they could scare a large group of people. ms. crowley: there is so much more to this story that it'll you ask about, both of these gentlemen. there are four microphones for your questions. one appeared, one here, one there. who you are,ll us keep your questions short, and make sure it is a question. to hear the end of the story i am counting on you all to ask the questions. go ahead. >> hi. i will not ask about the rest of the story. you mentioned earlier you did not think you are a journalist but i wanted to know your opinion about what you thought of recent political shows such as stephen colbert's, jon stewart's, and the effect on public opinion? politicalhanging the media landscape of today?
mr. greenburg: it did not seem to help much in this case. either directly or indirectly. later we got a movie made. i will answer briefly. i think reflects public opinion. i don't know that it influences it so much. maybe there are particular stories that get highlighted you would otherwise know about. for example i was reading an article about the john oliver affect recently. all the things that it changed because of him. there are really only one or two things that have changed. it was that he was reporting on things that were in the process of changing anyway. i think it's more of a reflection than a cause. that is my opinion. ms. crowley: don't forget to tell us your name. >> i'm a student here at the kennedy school.
i would love to hear your thoughts on the iran deal. i support the iran deal. i have tried to read the agreement. it is very complicated. i know most of the people who have opinions about the deal do -- understand much of what is a very technical document. i support the deal because i just look at the alternatives. which would be another war in the middle east, another invasion of a muslim country. affect anddefinitely harm america and many other countries. especially it will harm iranians because militarized -- it will militarize the situation inside iran. while iranians have some space to express themselves, together information, share information,
if there is a military attack, if there is a military -- even a threat of a military attack, it allows people within the secret,onary guard the parallel government that took over after the revolution, they will take over again and it will get results. even this little space we had in iran now. i was telling it earlier that i have been in a difficult situation since i came out of prison in 2009. dutye hand i feel it is my to talk about the situation in iran, the human rights abuses, and the atrocities that the regime is committing. at the same time i don't want to provide any reasons for warmongers and people who want that goingn or say
to work with iran bills -- will solve the situation and bring peace and security to iran the same way we did in iraq and libya. also.-- and iranians iraq, libya, afghanistan, these are not good role models that we want to emulate. and i have a ben harvard alum. thereof have been a number of successful revolutions. in america, it was the americans that chose to have the revolution. in iran it had a successful, peaceful, democratic revolution. does it have to be from the inside out or said anything an external force can do to help's -- help their process? mr. bahari: i think external forces can help the situation. they should not invade the
country. that is the first thing they should do. also, they have to find out what is the situation inside the country and went to the iranians need in order to bring about a peaceful change in the country. i have been talking to different governments, government officials asking them to create some sort of satellite internet in a run. one of the ways you can bring peaceful change to iran is to allow different iranians to communicate with each other. to communicate with the rest of the world. to share information with themselves and the rest of the world. and while the iranian government is in charge of the internet and the bandwidth, it is difficult. it is still possible but it is very difficult. if there is a satellite internet that foreigners can provide to
iranians, that will be a positive help. --o when you think about the you do a cost-benefit analysis, how much does the military cost and the satellites and internet cost? provided -- be provided to people inside iran. and iranians don't think about revolution anymore because they had a revolution 36 years ago. they haven't regretted it sends. maybe two or three years after the revolution. they are remanded -- reminded every years he -- every day by the government they had a revolution 36 years ago. it's a historical mistake they don't want to repeat. ms. crowley: i just want to interject here because journalism is one of my passions. publicity.id get hillary clinton talked about it, about the show trial.
about the unfairness of the imprisonment, etc. you had journalist friends, among them one from cnn it was counseling on the case. think "--"the daily show" there need to be some help here in terms of trying to get him released? mr. greenburg: nothing directly other than a couple of times we featured people who were speaking about the case as interviewees. in terms of anything beyond that we were sort of coordinating with the people who are taking more of the lead starting with his wife and people helping to board a federal process. ms. crowley: we would love to have that part of the story, ladies. his wife is pregnant. she was five months pregnant when you left? mr. bahari: three months.
that is a part of the story. i will as he was some point about what you think is similar to this question. when you think would be helpful for those that are still there that out of the kind of publicity here? i'm very sorry about your excruciating periods in jail. -- iter if it graders gave you greater affinity for the political prisoners in iran who are held without charge, tortured, and when they go on hunger strikes to protest human rights. these are the kinds of stories, unlike yours, that never get featured on "the daily show" and in "newsweek." mr. bahari: there are many atrocities in the world. in palestine, china, russia,
egypt. some of those countries are western allies. some of them are anti-western. it's going on all around the world. i was really lucky that i was "newsweek" and working for other news organizations for many years. i had friends all around the world. i had an amazing campaign launch for me when the president of iran came to the united nations in september 2009. "newsweek" major every diplomat who met iranian officials raise documents we see in from builder to was the undersecretary of state. he talked about my case. most of a rainy and colleagues -- iranian colleagues are not as lucky. most of them are not working for
media organizations. most of them are freelancers. many of them are social media who have come about with the advent of facebook and twitter. they do not enjoy the same support. that is what started this. journalismisnotacrime.com to revive in the legal health and psychological help and put a name, a face on the names and the names to a number and talk about these people. when you say thousands of palestinians or hundreds of russian journalists or chinese journalists -- these are not members. these are people with stories. they are parents, brothers, sisters, wives, husbands who have loved ones. a have to give these people
face in order to do something about it. i'm trying to do as much as they can but i am one person. i'm sure there are many palestinians and israelis in chinese and russians who can join us. if anyone was to get in touch with me, they can do it on twitter, facebook, e-mail and we can see what we can do. ms. crowley: we will do the address later at the end. >> hi. i'm a student here at the kennedy school and a moroccan journalist. someone who is practiced journalist for a few years in the least i can see there are -- we have two obstacles to free speech where we come from. the interest of regimes to reverse journalists and the right to free speech. the other is popular attitudes
towards liberal or open-minded journalists and what they say about societies. i'm wondering if that is the case for iran. the think iranian public opinion is open, regardless of what regimes in place? do you think it is open to journalistic work that is challenging to the public morals as they call them? i know for a fact that in the arab world to 20 obstacles. it's not just the regimes, but popular attitudes. mr. bahari: we can generalize and say that public opinion is like that. yes, there are members of the public who may be bigoted and ignorant and prejudice and think the way that you are describing them. experience,in my people, especially with the advent of digital and satellite
technology, they would like to know more about the rest of the world. they are more open to receiving information. may not wantnians to hear about gay rights in isrica because homosexuality not something that is discussed openly in the iranian society. but more and more iranians and erse and more middle eastern' are traveling. more and more people are open to new ideas, new information. is, especially with the advent of social media, there is a new mood in the middle east. we saw that during the arab spring. people naming their children on facebook for example. it's a sign of change. mr. greenburg: that is questionable.
>> hello, i'm a student at boston university. moderates,n we had presidents, reformists and hardliners. but now much as changed as far as freedom of speech and journalism in particular. do you think presidents as the main elected guide to the government have any impact on the situation or not? mr. bahari: i argue that a lot has changed. if we think about the situation in iran and now with 1990 and the 1980's, there was more freedom in iran compared to that period. yes, it is not like sweden. freer and people have more space to discuss things in the 1980's at the height of how
ini'sthat home dictatorship. i think people believe in gradual change. excruciatingly gradual change but that the limited have sustainable change. people look at this sudden change in the neighborhood and the situation in iraq, in libya, and those are not changes that are sustainable. the change that happened in iraq fanaticism in more like isis. residents -- president in iraq is a symbolic figure. whereas in 2005 he had ahmadinejad, a bigoted fundamentalist as the president of iran. , a littleu had rohani bit more liberal.
a little bit more cultivated then ahmadinejad. and people are happy with that. it is the symbol of change. maybe he cannot bring that much change to the country but he is a symbol of change. ms. crowley: the question was asked where you having more sympathy for those who are tossed into prison and lost? you talk a little bit about reading about the darker parts of the world. this was the first of close where you met somebody in deep trouble and had no way to fix that. does it change you, your worldview? as a person did it change you? mr. greenburg: yes, it did. it made me realize we are much closer -- i will tell you one thing. we are much closer to some of
these darker elements that i was aware. to a degree i do not believe it. it just allows -- was not part of my world. heading to interact directly was quite a shock. even reading his book. i'm reading the book, i'm into the character of going along with him in his story. page 130 he brings up "the daily show." i had forgotten i had anything to do with it. i have something to do with the story. it was shocking to realize we're not that separate from that. even is one thing which is -- things were more liberal than they are now and things are opening up. i've been to a lot of places but there is something in the air that felt like it was not free. there was a certain kind of -- a certain heaviness about things i
had never really experienced before. it was interesting because not too long before we got up many years under george bush for freedom, particularly post-9/11 was tossed around in this world became meaningless to me. it became something like the way the reviews it was worthy of mocking. terrorists hate us for our freedoms. we fight for freedom. the became an empty word. i got a little bit of a sense it was not nearly as it is a thought and it's only what you see the absence of freedom to get a sense of what we do have here. that opened my eyes. i was not known when i was there but as a middle-aged man it opened my eyes to something i just did not realize was like that before. >> my name is danielle. i'm a student at the kennedy school. my question is for both tim and
maziar. " is involved in issues that become advocacy issues in the u.s. and with advocating for him when he was in prison and also the case of youseff when his show ended in egypt. what is the perspective of the show when it gets taken from the comedy world into this advocacy role and how comfortable is that for you in that position? maybe you can each answer from both sides of that? mr. greenburg: there are a few answers to that. i don't to speak for jon, i casesay that in maziar's he had a personal involvement. i think that changes things a little bit. even if you go -- about the 9/11 responders, it was something he
had a personal connection to. i think that changes a little bit. i run the field apartment where the correspondents go out in the field. when there is something you feel -- there something specific about the person involved, whether it is for or against, you're just going off of what you actually feel. you might get a little bit more active that way. generally that is not our job. generally our job is to make comedy, satirically, which means commenting on things. you can't sit there and say, i'm going to make a joke about this. sometimes you want to do something. usually it is in the form of jokes. ms. crowley: do you think he would've been imprisoned had he not appeared "the daily show -- appeared on "the daily show." it was just one
ridiculous evidence among all the ridiculous -- ms. crowley: you talked about how many journalists there were there. there were a lot of high-profile journalists and their. there was something that maybe you and perhaps your iranian -- mr. bahari: that was the reason i get arrested. the reason for my arrest was exactly what we are talking about before. they wanted to make an example of me. i was a journalist and i was making documentary films. i was working the foreign media. -- with foreign media. they thought i would be the best target because they can teach a lesson to a big number of people. iran does not recognize dual citizenship. in the eyes of the iranian government i was not an iranian canadian. i was iranian. they could easily arrest me, put me in prison, put me on trial,
and teach a lesson to the other journalists. " was onee daily show of many particular evidence they brought forward. mr. greenburg: one segment we did, everybody in it was arrested. that happened before he even aired it. i think it was partially that the people who were willing to speak to us tended to be from a more liberal side of the political spectrum. mr. bahari: i think the way i met tim and jason was dodgy and -- in terms of the suspicious eyes of the iranian intelligence agent. i was doing a documentary for bbc and i was with the correspondents in the hotel room. because there were lots of media organizations in tehran they were calling me for interviews. i did not have time because i was doing my own documentary.
we had a tight deadline for to be released. when tim called i just said yes to "the daily show" because i was a fan. jason came to the hotel to meet me i had a short time. 85 or six minutes. we had a -- maybe five or six minutes. i give them a bunch of names. if you are ignorant, if you look this prismd through of suspicion and intelligence, you think these guys are spies. said that --ager my interrogator said that all journalists are spies. they gather information and they disseminate the people and they get paid for. that is a spy. it was -- i was being a spy and unbeknownst to all of us we were being monitored. mr. greenburg: if you saw that
meeting, it was five or six minutes in the hotel. it does look kind of suspicious. i was they could've heard we were talking about. [laughter] is standing nobody up. go ahead. >> i am in alumni of the kennedy school. my question is for both of you. you mentioned you run the field pieces of the show. now we are seeing a reformist president and things were more open. is "the daily show" interested in going back, or is he going to do anything that is a going to continue advocating for better relationships or understanding between the art -- ironic and u.s. -- iran and the u.s.? "r. greenburg: "the daily show is going through a regime change right now. i think you'll find the voice of the is as trevor know it takes over -- noah takes over.
i do not feel culpable going back to iran. i would not send some of their of the moment. i think cheney -- things that it angela. i guarantee the viacom lawyers without lettuce. -- would not let us. in terms of advocating, i do think so. i think we will always have a little bit of a connection unlike other places. that it's a special interest to us as an institution. it's one of the main -- in the cab ride over some asp what i askedof iran -- somebody me what i think iran. mr. bahari: speaking of advocacy, when i was with jon in sewater,"lming "ro
because of his defensive youseff jon has become a popular figure as well. everyone in the streets of jordan knew him. theyon as they see jon would say "jon stewart, number one." >> i'm a freshman at harvard college. 2011, the arab spring in it run -- iran experienced a few protests. did you cover this protests and what your thoughts were on those protests and implications after your experiences in 2009? mr. bahari: in iran? >> yes. mr. bahari: maybe they were small. >> very small. mr. bahari: i don't remember those protests and a measure what i was doing at the time. i did not cover that much.
what is really scaring me about the protests in the beginning of february 2010 which became violent because the protests became violent and the regime really managed to suppress it quickly. i think that was really dangerous because the success of the green movement was peacefulness. guard, part ofry the regime really try to militarize the movements. with the wisdom the iranian people it did not become really violent. for the regime it was very easy to suppress because they know they are violent and a nevada suppress violence. -- and they know how to suppress violence. 2010 it was quite violent in the regime managed to suppress it. we have not seen that many
protests, manifestations of people with dissatisfaction of the government since then. on everyme out occasion they can. a football game. the nuclear deal. they come to this reason they can't -- chant. freedom andor democracy. student atcond-year the fletcher school of law and diplomacy. i think the nuclear agreement has raised a question of whether or not there will be a broader rapprochement between the u.s. and iran. what you think about improving u.s.-iran relations at the video -- after the deal? mr. bahari: i think if there is no interruption, if the process goes ahead as it is started a
couple of years ago with the hani, there will be some kind of rapprochement. it will not come until fruition until the current supreme leader made beinge he's anti-american part of his -- we will see some sort of revolution rapprochement between the iran and the u.s.. there will be some sort of economic deal. members of the american government go to iran. it will be good for iran to have that rapprochement. we have seen it in other countries is where -- as well when they open up to the u.s. there is some respect for human rights and expression because --
>> my name is frankie hill. i'm a freshman at harvard college. i am no idea what it once do with the rest of my life. for any of you who would like to answer, what is the most fulfilling part of your job? mr. bahari: a very nice last question. usually it's, what you think of the future of iran? how many hours to be have? it's nicer to earn a living, i will tell you that. [laughter] don't discount that no matter what you do. it's nice to support you and your family . i think, at least for what i do, it is nice to have fun yet if you like you are if not making a
difference in the world, looking at things that matter. sometimes i feel like we can do more of that. there are things you care about in the world and if you're somehow involved in that in some way, whether it is us commenting on it or more directly, i think there really is something about feeling like you are involved in something you care about in the world. to me that is very fulfilling. mr. bahari: to me it is meeting new people and learning everyday something new. by nature i'm a nosy person. if i had any other profession i could not be someone and ask them about their opinion of something. .f i was against it what he think of the presidential election? as a journalist you can easily do that and people think that is good. yes, making a living is very important as well.
i think that is part of it. and if youe a living decide to become a journalist, it becomes much more difficult to earn it living from journalism. ms. crowley: i agree with you making money part and i say i also agree. to be able to meet people you would not ordinarily meet, to hear their stories in this forum or on tv or just when you are standing around the at an event and learner stories is not just great fun. it really is a privilege. something that really floats your boat. you will be doing it for a long time. book is of the "rosewater." obviously he got out so we know the ending. it was originally called "then
they came for me." it is a page turner even a you know how it turned out. "rosilm is based on ewater." tim greenburg of "the daily show ." thank you so much for being here. mr. bahari: if you want to learn more about journalism is not a crime, go to journalismisnotac rime.com. ms. crowley: thank you all so much. [applause] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2015] >> known as the city of good neighborhoods, this weekend our cities tour joined by time warnerle