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and representative steve russell, whose unit helped hunt down saddam hussein. at noon, more from freshmen members of congress. , andsentative ryan sankey a harvard graduate who decided to join the marines and fight in iraq. >> israeli prime minister ahu is innetany washington this week for meetings with president obama. the are expected to discuss deal and the israeli palestinian conflict. pres. obama: all right.
it is very good to welcome, once .gain, prime minister netanyahu there is no leader i've met with more frequently. i think that speaks of the bond between the united states and israel. started, i want to talk about the jordanian attack that we discovered earlier. the fact that somebody dressed in military uniform carried out an attack at a training facility. it appears there may have been two or three unisys -- u.s. citizens killed. an investigation is taking place. we take this very seriously and will be working closely with the jordanians.
stage, i just want to let everyone know this is something we are paying close , and we are at the point with families have been notified, obviously, our deepest condolences will be going out to them. i want to extend my condolences to the israeli people on the passing of their former president. important he was --ure in israel he politics israeli politics. this is not opportunity for the prime minister and myself to discuss a wide-ranging series of topics. it is no secret that the security environment in the middle east has deteriorated in many areas.
repeatedly, the security of israel is one of my top foreign-policy priorities. that has expressed itself not only in words, but in deeds. we've had more cooperation than any two administrations in history. , weassistance we provide consider not only an important to the security of the state of israel, but important part of u.s. security in the region. that one ofg sure our closest allies can only protect itself, but work with us in deterring terrorism and other security threats. in light of what continues to be situation in syria,
this will give us an opportunity to discuss what happened there. we will discuss how we can block the activities of isil, hezbollah, other organizations in the region that carry out terrorist attacks. a lot of time will be spent on memorandum of that we can potentially negotiate. it will be expiring in a couple of years. we will also have the chance to talk about how the implementation of the iran nuclear agreement is going. it is no secret that the prime minister and i have had a strong disagreement on this narrow issue. ondon't have a disagreement
making sure that iran does not and anyclear weapon destabilizing activities that may be taking place. we are looking to make sure we find common ground there. we've also had no opportunity to discuss the terms both of us have had around violence in the palestinian territories. we condemn in the strongest terms palestinian violence against innocent israeli citizens. it is my strong believe that has the obligation and the right to protect itself did -- itself. lower discuss how we can between theure israelis and palestinians, how
we can get back on a path howrds peace, and legitimate aspirations to be met through a political process, even as we make sure israel can secure itself. there's a lot of work to do with too little time. that's why i'm going to stop here and say welcome. thank you. pm netanyahu: an express the condolences of the people of israel for the loss of american lives -- let me express the condolences of the peop le of israel for the loss of american lives. we are alike in more ways than one. i would like to thank you for this opportunity to strengthen our friendship, which is strong. i think it is rooted in shared
values, buttressed by shared interests. it is driven forward by shared wisdom. today,bviously tested, and the stability of the middle east, as you describe it. everybody can see it. we have isis, aggression, terror , from iran's policies and iran itself. turbulence has displaced millions of people, has butchered hundreds of thousands. we do not know what will transpire. this is a tremendously important opportunity for us to work together, to see how we can defend ourselves against this aggression, this terror. it is a daunting task. i want to make it clear, we have
not given up our hope for peace. we will never give up the hope for peace. i continue to believe in two states for two people, a statetarized israeli recognizes the palestinian people. doubt shouldd israel's willingness to make peace with any neighbor that genuinely wants peace. i will discuss with you practical ways to lower the tension, decrease instability, and move toward peace. i was finally want to thank you for your commitment to further bolster the security in the memorandum of understanding we are discussing. has been defended with
the generous assistance of the united states of america. i want to express my appreciation to you, the people of israel to you, for your efforts in this regard in your years of common service. security, that maintaining a qualitative military edge so that israel can, as you have often said, defend itself, by its, against any threat, so for all those reasons, i want to thank you for your hospitality, but even more so for strengthening the a -- the tremendous alliance and friendship between the u.s. and israel. pres. obama: thank you very much, everybody. thank you. >> israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu received the award.kristol
it is given for contributions to government holiday, social welfare, and political understanding. he also made remarks at the events. this is an hour and 20 minutes. ladies and gentlemen, please take your seats and turn your attention to the screen. ♪ >> if you believe in subversive truth, but a competition of ideas is fundamental to a free society, and that a free society is necessary for human dignity, human potential, that ideas matter, the american enterprise institute stands at the center of a revolution in ideas in
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people970, 2 billion around the world have been lifted out of absolute poverty and billions have seen democracy for the first time. why? two reasons. first, they saw how we lived in the united eights. based on open society, the rule of law, copyrights, and the reward of hard work. they saw our freedom and prosperity. theopping these ideas, inspiration and drive that makes our nation so great, the throughout the chains -- threw off the chains of poverty by hundreds of millions. we have a military, diplomatic, and cultural leadership position. as it usually peacefully, but when necessary, with force. it can only happen if in the future, we retain confidence in
the greatness of our nation, believe in the goodness of our values, learn from our mistakes, and maintain a commitment to serve the rest of the world. we need one more thing. we need friends. we cannot honor our commitment to the world by ourselves. we need friends who share our values. we need outposts of democratic capitalism. we need people who believe in equality, freedom, and the fundamental potential of every signal human being. -- single human being. friends are hard to find in the world. nations are silently glad that we leave and find it convenient to free ride on our strength, enjoying the benefits while publicly grouting about our cause and the principles behind her leadership. to others, american values are a threat, a threat to their power that they maintain that the cost of the poor and oppressed.
when we do have a true friend, a nation in the joyful its primitive building a better world for the people who need it the most, it is important to celebrate that friendship and how much it means to us. that is what we do tonight. [applause] no nation is a better friend in democratic capitalism than israel. it is a sister nation in a fight for better, more just world. it is a beacon of hope and a model for neighbors in the region and the world. tonight, we have a conversation about this friendship and its future with prime minister benjamin netanyahu. tonight, he receives the irving
kristol award. honoring our friend is our commitment to our nations own values.- nation's own i first want to hand the microphone to bill kristol, who will explain the irving kristol award, his father's great legacy. he will say a few words about how we choose the recipient of this award. illies and gentlemen, buk kristol. kristol: it is an honor to welcome all of you to this dinner, and a particular honor to welcome the prime minister of israel, prime minister that
yahoo! netanyahu. it is an honor to have you here. many of you, an increasing number of you each year i suppose, did not know him. him in theto capture words of my guest. here's a letter he wrote to my mother a little over six years ago. irving'sd to hear of passing. his intellectual contributions will be felt for many decades to come. his unwavering defense of the bodies in principles of a free influenced presidents
and prime ministers alike. he remains the proudest of jews and the staunchest of israel's defenders. i will always treasure my conversations with him about the years in which his eyes twinkled and his wisdom showed. with deep respect, benjamin netanyahu. thank you for that wonderful condolence letter which meant so much to my mother. i think it was an accurate portrayal of my father. for those of you interested in reading his writings or about websitey refer you to -- let me refer you to a website, irvingkristol.org. we have put together curated ingsites devoted to mak the internet more easily success
-- accessible to all of us and future generations. this project isn't directly involved with or connected to aei, but it turns out to be, in a way, and ou nintentional tribute. it is amazing how many of these affiliated inbeen one way or another with aei. , many diamond, leon kass more. one of the next websites going up is devoted to the work of charles murray. centralsizes just how aei has been and remains to american thought in american public life over the past couple of decades. you're not here to hear from me. that's difficult for me to believe. [laughter] hearristol: you're here to
netanyahu, the prime minister of israel. a leader in the free world, i'm happy to still use that term today. thank you for honoring us with your presence. let me please turn over the podium to the chairman of aei, george priest. [applause] george priest: thank you very much, bill. i am the chair of the aei council of academic advisors. on the official host of this event. i have done absolutely nothing to prepare for this. [laughter] the principle is
to bestow the irving kristol award. there are other members of the kristol family here that i would like us all to recognize. widow.stol, his council.of the we are happy to have her here tonight. [applause] george priest: we have elizabeth nelson, and susan kristol, bill's wife. we are happy to have them, too. [applause] you mightest: many of think tonight's event is just a big d.c. party with a prominent speaker followed by dancing.
that is wrong. it is that, but it is also academic. the council of academic advisors of academicsses from leading universities around the country assembled by aei to duties.wio to review the work of aei scholars to make sure we meet academic standards. the job of the council is to make certain that the work of aei scholars is solid, that is imperically defensible. is second job of the council to select, each year, the person most deserving of the irving kristol award.
as arthur mentioned, it is the highest honor the start by aei. we have delegated this task to an academic council, not just to its executive board. a group of academics can select the person who has made extra mary intellectual or contributions to contribute to government policy and welfare. chosen to we have bestow this award to benjamin netanyahu, prime minister of israel. we are very honored to have you here to receive this award. mentioned, tonight's program will consist of a discussion between prime minister netanyahu and daniel putka.
danny, i am certain we will raise many important issues with the prime minister. in order to set the stage, i would like to pose a question which i think was discussed by members of the council and is, of course, to broader concern of all of us, including all citizens around the world. how is it possible to achieve peace in the middle east? 20 years ago, at the time of the i asked this question to a friend who teaches at yale. it is common, maybe just for americans, to believe that wars have a beginning and in
an end. there is probably a deep truth to that. i would ask danny, with all respect to prime minister with -- prime minister benjamin netanyahu. i am sure danny will have weston's as well. the american enterprise institute is committed to promoting free markets, free trade, open interaction from citizens to improve lives. there is an old saw that provides democracies do not go to war against each other. this is attributed to kant.
support,no theoretical with the up section of saying that people would not support wars. particular, by the palestine-israeli dispute. if one can say hamas is a functioning mr chrissy. wars -- democracy. occur inot usually countries that embrace the market order. there is nothing to gain in the long run in the context of economic economies if it cannot be achieved more sustainably through mutually beneficial interactions in the market. with all due respect i would this question to prime minister netanyahu. why shouldn't israel promote a
lively economy for gaza? i believe a vibrant palestinian economy would change the relationship between israel and palestine. i am conscious of the security concerns that remain, which are not at all to feel. i believe they will diminish as the west bank and gaza economy develops. coloniesle, as the have the arrival of consumers. in americamall town welcomes the arrival of new neighbors. i am sure danny will raise this and other issues in our discussion tonight. are looking forward to the remarks of prime minister netanyahu. thank you. [applause] >> now, ladies and gentlemen, the main event. this is the largest dinner in aei's history.
why is that? perhaps you're thinking it is because of the food or the band. you are wrong. good, but it is because of our honored guest. few world leaders today are as popular as prime minister benjamin netanyahu. in america, we are fond of polling. it is no surprise mr. netanyahu is pulling better than the leaders of either of our parties. [applause] presents anect, interesting opportunity for the prime minister given that we have an election coming up. prime minister netanyahu has been an unflinching supporter of the values we share at aei and in this room. he has not only a great political but also a great economic leader.
a wildly successful startup nation and along the way he has maintained toughness for his country and shared our cause in a world that is frequently hostile to both. benjamin netanyahu is an friend to america. not democratic america, not republican america, not jewish america, but to every one of us. his accomplishments are well known and too numerous for me to list. tonight to have him as the awardee of a -- of our irving kristol award. gentlemen, please welcome with me prime minister benjamin netanyahu. [applause]
[indiscernible] is my opportunity to thing. we apologize for that momentary disturbance. minister, let me welcome you again to the american enterprise institute. we are delighted to have you here. make you very much. prime minister benjamin netanyahu: i am not used to receiving awards in israel. especially not from the media. i do get them from the public on the election day. but, it is very moving for me to be here. i do remember irving kristol as a great intellect. he was a fearless intellect. was thrownorrectness out of the window, he called it like he saw it to ent had a profound influence on many.
he had a profound influence on me. i consider myself honored and privileged to have spent many hours with him. he has left a great legacy and a great family and i want to especially welcome his wife. i have read her books. not, -- it is a tremendous book. this is a tremendous family that goes on into next generations. i am deeply honored to receive this award from you. thank you. [applause] >> i do not think anybody sitting here in this room would underestimate the affection with which the american enterprise institute, our entire family and community has for irving's legacy.
thank you so much for saying that. now, let me pick up where i was. -- for those of us who have been with us before, in years past we have had our honorees give a speech from the podium. the sure, we're going to have a conversation. would be more interesting, a little bit more and lightning for some of us, would addition, it provide an opportunity to hear about a range of issues of importance to everybody. more importantly, there are some who might be a little disappointed that i'm not going to interrogate you in washington style about a variety of issues. i would like to remind our guests that aei is not a news organization. we are a think tank. we are interested in the big questions. if we can take something away, i hope it will be big answers.
prime minister benjamin netanyahu: i hope this catches on. it is wonderful. danielle: we are all about leadership. mr. netanyahu, you have said israel is oh-american. it will always be pro-american. you have spent many years in the united states, as did your father. ofl me what is at the heart your affection for the united states. prime minister benjamin netanyahu: freedom. the idea of individual choice. that is developed with a collective purpose. israel, it defines america. these are two societies built on a purpose. on the idea of freedom. to congress a
number of times, into each time i look and i see the emblem of moses. it says a lot. the idea of the promised land. of freedom, freedom from bondage. freedom to pursue your huge. identitynk this is the of conviction. there is something else that i think has to be seen in an historical context. amonge a people scattered the nations, we had no capacity and wend ourselves should have disappeared. most stations that existed in the past do not exist today and certainly a nation scattered from its land into becoming utterly defenseless, subject to the whims, the worst whims of humanity, should have disappeared.
into came back to the land of israel, the promised land. rebuilt our country when we repossessed the power to defend ourselves. it was said here before, that all powers, all countries, even great powers need alliances. we need alliance, too. we did not have that alliance in the first half of the 20th century. when the founding fathers of threat ofentified the the anti-semitism, the going threat of anti-semitism in europe. we had no capacity to build our nation. the building to as we lost 6 million of our brethren. i believe if the united states had been the preeminent world power in the first half of the
20th century, things might have turned out differently. yet, israel was born in mid-century. the united states became a level power at that point. what a difference it a. it made a difference for the whole world. a difference for us in that we had a partner. i think that not only the common ideals of israel and the united ,tates that were mentioned here i think it is also the active role of the united states in defending liberty around the world and standing by its allies, in this case the best ally of the united states, israel. i think it has made a world of difference. i bet on this alliance. i would not sell the united
states short, i would not sell israel short, and i'm not at all diminish the importance of this alliance. for theit is pivotal future of this world. if yes we about it more, i will tell you more for -- i will tell you more. this is what i believe. [applause] i have a sore throat. you like the united -- like theou united states, which was founded on a big idea by people seeking freedom, israel, too, was founded on a big idea. the country is come a long way since 1896 and the jewish state. is zionism still the animating idea of the state of israel?
is there another direction that israel goes in? where does israel real go in the 21st century? prime minister benjamin netanyahu: having not had a state for 200 years, we have secured it again but we have to secure the jewish future. that is what zionism is about. jewish people the ability to have their own independent state. this is an ongoing effort. s keep changing. you want to make sure you have the inner strength to confront these challenges and also to make these alliances that i talked about. nobody makes alliances with the week. t --he weak. and nobody makes peace with the weak.
to make sure the country is strong. but that isarily, expensive. i hope you know that. very expensive. so, the only way you can actually find israel's defenses to safeguard the jewish future is to have a very vibrant economy. the only way you are going to have a very vibrant economy is to make sure it is a free market economy. that is something that i devoted a good part of my life to do and i think that we are successful in doing that, because in israel is that wepening now are harnessing the power and innovation to the power of free markets. have intellectual or technological brilliance, but you have no free markets, it is not going to go anywhere. the former soviet union had incredible metallurgists, and cripple physicists, incredible
mathematicians, -- incredible physicists, and incredible mathematicians. a plane andthem on them in palo alto, they would reduce in three weeks. israel had incredible technologists, scientists, but we have to liberate our markets. it is a us as i have something to do with. as a result, it is becoming, i would say, the preeminent or one of the two great centers of innovation in the world. our ability to make alliances is shifting. a extraordinary relationship with two small countries in asia, india and china. in japan.
together, we account for roughly 2.5 billion people in the world. to this new coming israel. you ask where israel is going. in the century of conceptual products and knowledge, the ones who will prosper are those who can innovate faster. israel is a speed chess innovator. we do not have that large a number of innovators, but we have a very, very large number of very fast innovators. that.lture promotes so, i think israel is moving into a leadership position. in technology. i will give you a number to illustrate this because i think it is important that i take this away from general concept and make it concrete. in 2014, as a result of a
deliver it policy that my government is leading, israel of the global investments in cyber security. that is 100 times our size. 2015, he trumped that number. they received double that amount. we received 50% of the global investment in cyber security. punching 200are times above our weight. this is an indication of how you increase short capacities and how you can harness your nat ingenuity both for international power and connections. i read a book by a wonderful writer named will durrant. he wrote some oval volumes on some 12 volumes on
history. towards the end of his life, he wrote a small book. 100 inches long. it is called, "the lessons of history." well worth reading. i've as they repented. every sentence is pregnant with meaning and insight. -- i suggest they reprint it. every sentence is pregnant with meaning and insight. if i could crystallize what durrant is saying, he says in history numbers count. is, big nations overcome smaller nations because they have bigger gdp. they can have your military and so on. and then on to its 19 or so he says, there are exceptions sometimes when nations can harness a cultural force.
he says the young state of israel may be an example of such an exception. well, half a century later, i think we proved a point. where do we go? we maintained the defenses of the jewish state will stop we maintain its economy. the allow our ingenuity to floors. we become a technological powerhouse. income will with the help, that in the great battle between mentor -- modernity and medievalism that afflict our area, more dignity winds. wins.ernity in that case, we all win. [applause] danielle: there is a big battle between medievalism and more
dignity and your part of the world. talk about markets in capitalism being the idea that we'll all israel into the century and beyond. there are other ideas at play in the region. there are a lot of people in suggest that in fact, one of the things animating those terrorist groups that have risen up through the region and dark tyrannize saying most of the people, many of the people of the middle east, that to they are founded on in idea. the many drone strikes, it airstrikes, even the ground is that happen without having an idea to substitute their. we cannot win. be something, as one of my colleagues says, with nothing. what i want to ask you is as the truly of one of the only democratic market economies in the middle east, what is the idea that is going to beat this? democracy?
ita benjamin netanyahu: certainly created freedom. there is a process in which the arab world and parts of the islamic world would move toward the idea to greater freedom. it is not automatic. good contrasty a to the tyranny and severed three they are experiencing now. the apprentice afflicting muslims. millions have been displaced, hundreds of thousands butchered. they have a good idea of what they do not want. sometimes think that in these kinds of battles, it is first of all important to win physically. win. fight. s, beatingmbating nazi them, first of all, you have to win. [applause]
prime minister benjamin netanyahu: it is very important not to allow these east's to powell. prowl.e beasts to streams these two human spreading misery. i spoke to the prime minister of italy and to david cameron and two angela merkel in the last few weeks and i said, i do not want to talk about isis, that is politically loaded, you can ask me later. but i wanted to speak about boko ram, you know, there must be at least 12, probably closer to 20 liters of african nations who came to israel, just as asia is coming to israel and they only won three things from us. israeli technology, israeli
technology, and israeli technology. theyfrican states all, and say, we want israel he technology in agriculture and health care and irrigation. they'll come down to one word. security. help us in security. i suggested to some of the european countries a simple partnership. the form consortiums. -- the form consortiums to deal with foreign countries, help them with security. the islamist movement in africa is not yet strong. they can't be defeated today. they can be defeated today. it -- they can be defeated today. they can be defeated today. the battle.win the earlier you win it, the cheaper it will be.
you wait, eventually these forces will dissipate because there is no hope. there is no future for a world of darkness. think the islamists will lose out. but it may take decades. it may take cap a century. ism was defeated, but it claimed the lives of tens of millions of people, and one third of my people. defeating them early is important. we will defeat them in the battle of ideas, but let us defeat them on the ground as well. [applause] danielle: i hope you will not mind if i push you more on this question. there are plenty of voices growing in volume both in the united states and i think even in israel who suggest we are qaddafi's with the and the sidearms and the us odds
in place to attempt down on the and that who rise up secular dictatorship is really the solution we should look for for the rest of the middle east. is onlyay democracy there for islamism to rise up. where do you come down on their? prime minister benjamin netanyahu: there was a woman, jean come patrick -- [applause] prime minister benjamin netanyahu: and i read an article she had written called dictators and double standards, and she said, basically in this article, she said, we are committed to the larger battle against soviet totalitarianism and on occasion for the larger goal,
to make arrangements with secular dictatorships. that is basically what she said. now, mind you, saddam was horrible. horrible. a brutal killer. so was could off he. there is no question of -- so was qaddafi. i had my own dealings with each of them. what i do want to say they were in many ways neighborhood woollies. that is, they tormented their immediate environment. but they were not wedded it to a they tormented their immediate environment, but they were not wedded to a larger goal. even though hamas is sunni, the
militant sunnis led by isis, they had a larger goal in mind. not merely the conquest of the middle east, it is the conquest of the world. it is unbelievable. people do not believe that. they do not believe it is forible to have this quest a caliphate in the me first century, but that is exactly what is guiding them. threatain this larger present 2, that would islam extent, each one of them seeking to arm themselves with weapons of mass death. chemical weapons, nuclear weapons, that this is a formidable threat to our world.
if i had to categorize the threats, i would say these are the larger threat. it does not mean you have to form alliances with secular dictatorships, in means you have to categorize what is the larger threat. that is something i think is required from all of us. political leadership involves always choosing between bad and worse. i seldom have had a choice between bad and good. i welcome it when it happens, but these are by far the easiest choices. it is choosing between bad and a good partefines of the leadership. i think i know how to choose that. [applause] danielle: let's talk about syria and then turned to iran.
syria is out of control. the situation seems to be going from bad to worse. when you think about this, how do you see the implications for israel? how do you see this affecting israel? how do you see solutions that israel can affect? prime minister benjamin netanyahu: i have this weakness, i.e. you know, i have done a lot of economic reforms in israel. about 60. a lot. you can ask me later about them. these economic reforms, the most difficult problem in the country is what people would think is conceptual. right.etting the concept especially if you can or would from others and see what work.
then, you just have to fit it to your own country. and then you have the battle with all of the vested interests and so on but i find that boring. it is the first part, deciding what is the right thing to do that always takes the largest greatestd also the intellectual investment. it is pretty easy to do in economics, in education, in other things. a situation where i do not have a clear concept, i do not charge in. simplea, i do not see a concept. because, you choose here between a horrible secular did leadership or the two other bespects that would buttressed by iran. , a would have iran run syria horrible prospect for us. or --.
dash. when two of your enemies are fighting each other, i do not say strengthen one or the other, i say leave them both. intervene., do not which is what i have done. i have not intervened. the first country put to years ago to military hospital 10 yards away from our border with syria. we have taken in thousands of syrians. women, men, him to you today to it, horrible conditions. given them treatment and israeli hospitals. we never show the because of they are photographed and they are seen and then rehabilitated and they go back to their villages or towns, they will be executed on the spot. have leftthan that, i
the internal battle in syria untouched, because i am not sure what to choose. you have to openly admit it. here is what i do define in syria. usednot want syria to be as a launching ground for attacks against us. in i have said this to vladimir putin when i flew to moscow to see him. i went to see him first to make not that our planes do crash at each other. not a good idea. but i told him, here is what we do in syria. to set upt allow iran a second front in the goal line -- in the goal line and we will act forcefully to prevent that. we will not allow the use of syrian territory from which we would be attacked by the syrian
army or anyone else. we have acted forcefully against that. the use of not allow syrian territory for the game-changing weapons into lebanon. into hezbollah hands. we have acted forcefully on that. i made it clear we will continue to act that way. debt to vladimir putin. i said, whatever your goals are in syria, these are our goals and we will continue to act that way. think that message was received. there is talk now of in arrangement in syria. i spoke about it today in a very good conversation with president obama. arrangement that is struck in syria, if one is achievable, i am not sure.
i am not sure hoped he dumped it can be put back together. i have strong doubts. of syria as a state can be reconstituted. but whatever arrangements are made in syria, that do not preclude iran from continuing its aggression against us directly or transferring weapons to hezbollah, that does not a blushes. we have very clear policy demands in syria. we keep them and will continue to keep them. the defense of israel is what concerns me and is -- syria first and foremost. i'm not, we will continue to act forcefully. -- on that, we will continue to act forcefully. [applause] danielle: let me ask you about
iran. the arabians are embroiled in syria. these are good times for them. we see them interviewing and push without too much back. in bahrain, in lebanon. they are active in the west bank in gaza. they are everywhere without push back. do you see iran as being constrained or in some way moderating its actions because of the joint comprehensive plan of action, that are known as the iran deal? how do you see iran's ambitions playing out? prime minister benjamin netanyahu: it is no secret we had a disagreement. on the nuclear issue. that deal was signed. i think right now, we have to concentrate on three things. from -- i wasn concerned with two things.
one that iran violates the deal, the other than iran keeps the deal. in 15 years, they have a clear and to producing the richest uranium for a massive nuclear arsenal. i am still concerned with that aspect. agreement we are in that we want to creep -- keep iran's feet to the fire to make sure they do not violate the deal. the president and i spoke about that today. we will cooperate to make sure iran does not cheat and believe me, it has a proclivity for cheating. they have a vested interest in by we, i mean the united states and israel, not only israel, to prevent iran's conventional aggression. remember iran is not only arming
hezbollah, the trying to build a second front. supplying hamas and gaza and attackt she had with weapons. acting in yemen trying to jordan.e you name it. also, building and arms industry 50,000 men strong that produces submarine satellites, precision rocketry, and many other advanced weapons. pursue this aggression if it is not met with force. i think the second thing, other they on keeping their feet to the fire, is supporting your allies. the most important ally and the most important counter venture in force with iran is the state of israel. support israel. [applause] can be subtle enough, and
the president and i discussed memorandum of understanding for american military support for israel for the next 10 years. imagine the middle east without israel. what do you think would happen? soour immediate vicinity mark i have to be diplomatic, i will leave it to your imagination. now imagine a middle east with three as well as. one in afghanistan, one in israel, one near yemen. it would be a different situation. the support for israel i am talking about, the united states supports israel to the tune of $3 billion a year. ok? you spend on the war in a trillion and iraq and a half, so that is five centuries worth of support for israel.
carter and thery president today said that supporting israel is not just important for israel, it is something we deeply appreciate, but it is also a very solid investment and american security as well. we are in ally that does not ask for any american troops. we never have and we do not attend -- in 10 two. we can defend ourselves we just want to have the tools. the second thing and fighting iran is giving israel the tools to defend itself and deter iran. there is a third item that i think is essential. not merely practicing aggression in the middle east, iran is building a terror network in both hemispheres. adding another cell roughly every four weeks. when i say both hemispheres, that obviously includes the western hemisphere.
this hemisphere. i think this terror network that is growing rapidly should be torn apart. so three things. deep their feet to the fire. support your allies. their feet to the fire. support your allies, this ally first. it will be left to history modernizeiran will ique.eform under this cl i have my doubts, i hope i am wrong. i suspect i will be proven right thet i will be delighted if takeover in around has not yet happened. daniel: i think we'll all be delighted. normally i would cut things off, but i want to press you on an issue i know you are reluctant
to talk about. israel's economy. prime minister benjamin netanyahu: i love that one. us.el: you tell what do you want people to take away. that is my last question. go for it. by minister benjamin netanyahu think the supremacy of free markets is not self-evident. i think it has to be explained. i think first of all you have to get things conceptually right. the second thing is to communicate it effectively. when i became finance minister in the midst of a crisis in 2003, we were in a horrible crisis. our economy was shrinking, our gdp per capita wished thinking. we had terrible unemployment and so on. most people thought it was because of the intifada we had at the time or the collapse.
the bubble bursting and so on. that had an effect on us. that certainly contributed to it, but i did not think that was the major problem. come about three weeks to up with an economic plan that ultimately made many changes in israel. , how do i communicate this to a country that does not have lemonade stands when you are a kid. i was a child, you could see this was a made fighter and fighter.a mig we did not have lemonade stands, semi-socialist economy. so how to i explained the idea of free markets and their centrality in today's free world?
so, three weeks later i did a is conference and i said, i want to fall back on my first day in basic training in the israeli paratroops. the commander put us in a straight line and he said, you .re now going to take a race a special kind of race. each man looked to his right, you are the first man appointed to me. but the gun to be right on your shoulder. the next mandate that. the guy after him did that. and then, i got a pretty big eye. he was heavy. the next guy was the smallest guy in the platoon into he got the biggest guy on his shoulders. the third guy was a big eye into got a small guy. and so on. and then, the commander blue the was so. -- blew theaged whistle. i barely managed to move forward. the next guy, the small guy with
the bad guy on the shoulders, collapse. the third guy took up like a rocket in one the race. i said, in the modern economy, all national economies are like sector sitting on the shoulders of a private sector. in our case, the book sector became too big too fast. we are about to collapse. -- the public sector became too big too fast. we're about to collapse. we have to strengthen the man at the bottom, that means lowering tax rates. we have to remove the obstacles to the race. the barriers to competition. known asy, this became thing. man-in man taxi drivers could reap that. effectively, we ended up doing exactly that. constrained the growth of public spending. we lowered tax rates.
i had a big argument about that. they said, who is this guy? i said, no. his name is laffer. we actually tried it. it works. it worked for us. big-time. [applause] we instituted a lot of reforms. even earlier, as prime minister, in my first term. onemoved all constraints foreign currency. that was supposed to collapse our economy and of course everybody was warning me that a mountain of money will move. it did. into the country. you know, so we did all of these forms. the consequence of that as we grew 5% a year for a decade. the exception is 2008. we still grew, but we grew at high percent per decade.
know,e now overcome, you past -- many leading economies in the world. if we can continue to it here to free market principles and encourage innovation and open new markets to these new markets, new deregulate should and, and infrastructure which we are investing in mightily, i think israel has a brilliant economic future. the thing that i have to tell you is that although our gdp cap it is rising rapidly, we have a small gdp. we have 8 million people. we can be number one in cyber. we are. we can be number one and many other things, but we are small and therefore we have to compensate that with other
means. among others, the american military assistance which is in valuable. the race that i described, the thin man-batman man-is ongoing -- the thin ongoing.ace is you have to fear economy. you have to make sure your government does not interfere with ingenuity but promotes it. you can never rest on your laurels. never rest on your laurels. life is competitive. the life of nations is competitive. you should always hold your competitive edge. this is not something that consultants tell you. it is something that leaders have to do. competitiveown the edge of your people. you should have as much alliance
as you can with other like-minded states like the united states of america. [applause] danielle: amen. prime minister benjamin netanyahu: someone asked me to say why we don't have peace. here is my short answer. in ae tools when i am press conference. when i have journalists. they ask me questions, i write all the questions. i write all of the questions. i go to each one. here's my answer to that, here's my answer to that, and on this one, i am fudging. i do not want to fight. i tell them if i am fudging. i want to tell you what the answer is.
the reason? first of all, the conflict we have in the middle east is multiple. it used to be said the core of the conflict, in the singular and the middle east, is the israeli-palestinian conflict. that went by the window. around collapse, syria collapse, yemen collapse, libya collapse, everything else in turmoil, nothing to do with us. conflict's ine the middle east is the battle between maternity and early, primitive medievalism. that is the core of the conflict. early, permitd of medievalism. it is the test and palestinian refusal to recognize a jewish state in any boundary. this is why this conflict persisted for 50 years before there was a state, before there
were territories, before there were settlement. if that were the core of the conflict, the settlements, why did it take place when my grandfather landed in jaffa in 1920? jews were murdered then. or what? bank.was no west there were no settlements. 1921, 1929, 19in 36, 1939, 1948. what was that all about? 1967. for nearly half a century. we were being attacked because there was a persistent refusal to accept us in any boundary. into theset territories as a result of the conflict. and what arab propaganda has -- is to return
this. how do we know that is the case? we left gaza. every last centimeter, and they are still firing rockets at us from gaza. when you asked him, why are you doing this, is it to liberate the west bank? they say, yes, sure, that, too. but it is deliberate. jaffa. they always get back to jaffa. so, now we turn to the other guys. to the palestinian authority, not to hamas. at least they do not practice violence, but that is important. i say, what about you? are you willing to recognize the jewish state? are you willing to recognize the fact you have a nation-state for the palestinian people, how about a nation have been state for the jewish people. after all, we've only been there almost 4000 years. we recognize there are two peoples there, we are willing to make the deal.
are you willing to make the deal? are you willing to recognize the jewish state? because there is no point in palestinianer state, another arab state, that will continue the battle against the jewish state question mark are you willing to end the conflict? make peace?claim, you know what happens when you ask them not? they move. they say, i am willing to recognize israel. i did not ask israel. i said, are you willing to terminate all claims to the jewish state? you won't get jaffa. you will not get refugees. the answers, they will not will stop we will have peace when the palestinians will afford us what they ask us to afford them. we are willing to let them have a state of their own, but they have to reconcile themselves to the fact that we have a state of
our own and it is here to stay. that is the core of the problem. [applause] in the mideast, medievalism the againsttity, is the palestinian, refusal to recognize a jewish state in any boundary. i hope that will change. but i have my mind on making sure until it changes, that yes, we work up the economy to create future. and economic if the palestinians follow the prescriptions i have given here for market development, they will be better off economically and we will move to steps closer to peace. thank you very much. thank you. [applause]
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