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this country in the last four years, americans across the country are calling on leab lady liberty to drop her torch. i want you to listen to these statements by member of congress about a refugee bill. not an illegal immigration bill, or permanent residents but refugees. a refugee bill. listen to these comments about member -- from members of congress about people fleeing for their lives. fighting immigration is the best vote-getting argument. a politician can beat his breast and proclaim his loyalty to america he can tell the unemployed man that some alien has his job. here's another one. congress must protect the youth of america from this foreign invasion. end quote.
how about this one. american children have first claim to america's charity, end quote. there are many more. these quotes were from 1939. the refugee bill was not for muslim and christian syrians or iraqi muslims an christians, it was for german jews. while it was true that germany was indeed a threat, the refugees were not. they were 20,000 children. not only did that bill of 1939 not pass, but that congress, with the same speech and rhett reck i've been hearing in recent tais in this august chamber, mr. speaker, they passed hurdle of hurdle in 1939 to make it more difficult for refugees to enter. they were unfortunately successful. mr. speaker, america protects
her liberty and defends her shores not by punishing those who would be free. she does it by guarding liberty with her life. americans need to sacrifice and wake up. we must not become them. they win if we give up who we are and even more so without a fight. we guard our way of life by vigilance. we must be watchful. we have to have each other's back and be alert to dangers around us. we must speak up when we see something unusual. by maintaining who we are amidst the threat, amidst the hatred, amidst the trial, we win. patrick henry did not say, give me safety or give me death. but rather, give me liberty. implying that he was willing to lose his life to defend that
liberty. we have defended our way of life for 240 years. now we, as americans, must defend it again. we must defend it when the critic sitting on the couch in his underwear eating his cheese uffs is pecking out hatred and vi tree yol on the internet. we must defend it when people are working up passion that might also hurt our liberty. we must be vigilant and aware at home and while looking after their families who don't have them to protect them. this, but ays have liberty, if lost, takes generations, if ever, to regain. i'm asking all americans tonight to pray for our president.
how much time, really, have we spent on our knees at home for our leaders? how much counsel have we sought from the almighty? it is god who has given us the spark of freedom. it is he we must turn to. he will take us and guide us in times of crisis if we only ask him and humble ourselves and seek his face as a nation. mr. speaker, we would not even have that nation without the aid of france. lady liberty would not even stand on our shores without the generosity of france. and now, as civilization faces peril and trial, we must stand the test shoulder to shoulder with france. this congress, our people, our way of life.
i yield back my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. does the gentleman have a motion. ? mr. russell: i move that we adjourn. the speaker pro tempore: the question is on the motion to adjourn. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. the ayes have it. the motion is adopted. accordingly, the house stands adjourned until 9:30 a.m. tomorrow.
>> speaker paul ryan came to the floor today saying they do not have a religion test. france this week. the event in pariswere horrifyingall of us re shaken by them. yet, we knothat wnever terror like this strikes, the wldommunity will rally together. terror wl no pvail. but these events should serve as a reminder. there still evil out there. we cannot igret. cannot contain it. west must defeat it and we mt -- we must defeat it and must protect our people. the country is uneasy and unsettle and they have every right to be. ot becse of what they're hearing from politicians but
at th've seen with their own eyes. all of us here, republicanand democrats, are hearing these coerns in ourffices people understand the plight f thoseleeing the middle east, buthey also want basic assurancesfor the sfety of th country. we are a compaionate nation. we lwa he been, and alwaywill be but also must rember that the first priority ito proct the american people. we can be coassione and we can also be safe. that's whae bill that we're bringing up tomorws all about. it callsor aew standard of verification for refugees from syria and iraq. it would mn aause in the program until wcan be rtain beyond any doubthat tose oming here arno a threat. it's that simple. an don't think it's asking too mh. i also want to point out tha
we will notave elious st, only a security test. if t intelligence and law forment communit cannot certify tha a psonsents no threat, then they should not be allowed in. this is comn sen and it's our obligation. let me also say t members and to the country tt we cannot lose sight of theigger threat in syria. the refee cri is just a coequence of failed polic in tha regn. the ulmate solion is a plan to defeat isis. at's why we a sending to the president a bill this week that requis him toally propose anverarchingtrategy to dealith syria and the terrorist threat in that region unti we acknowledge and ay confrt the al dangerhat exists. there is a long ahead, but
today, forhis moment i urge l of my colleagues to support the legislation tomorrow and to >> politico writes that most will oppose what speaker ryan was talking about. nancy pelosi could face a political backlash of looking sauce on a high-profile, national security issue. , the see here in the hill white house has threatened to veto the syrian refugee bill. a statement from the white house says in part, this legislation would introduce unnecessary and impractical requirements that would unacceptably hamper our efforts to assist some of the most vulnerable people in the world. many of whom are victor -- victims of terrorism. here is more on the syrian refugees bill from a capitol
hill reporter. >> the house is to consider a bill on resettlement of syrian and iraqi refugees in the u.s.. the article has a headline the race to get ahead of the refugee issue. what is the race, what would it do? alex: after the attacks on friday there has been a fever in congress on how to best respond. the house has a bill coming up that would add greater scrutiny to the process. it would essentially have a pause on that program. the republican springing up the bill in the house tomorrow.
there is a question of what will happen afterwards. bythe bill is authored homeland security committee chair paul and hudson. is to stopd my plan the refugee process until we can make sure the government can effectively keep terrorist out print how i refugees currently being vetted. how would this work? alex: the of ministration has repeated again and again, what syrian refugee -- the syrian refugee program is right now is the most difficult. so far only 2000 syrian refugees have been brought in in the past four years. they have to go through whereagencies processes you have in person interviews, biometric, and biographic checks with law enforcement and
intelligence agencies, after the referral from the united nations refugee program. ist this house bill would do essentially make a 100% assurance that none of the refugees we brought in are a terrorist threat. the administration has already put a white house veto threat on this bill. they think it is completely unnecessary. they think it is not adherence to american values. we will see how many democrats vote tomorrow. the blue dog caucus will be moderate -- they have signaled there's -- their support. the democratic leaders will most likely oppose. i spoke with the houston the credit member, congressman schiff from california, he will oppose it. >> you mentioned the democratic push back on the bill. the ranking member on the
immigration subcommittee tweeted, house gop's refugee bill would immediately shut down refugee resettlement in syria and iraq region, and hack -- handicap feature refugee settlement. havehe democrats involvement in crafting this bill, and might there be an alternative? the house gop leadership said they conferred with the house democratic leadership earlier. it is unclear where the process will move forward after tomorrow. senate majority leader, mitch mcconnell and speaker paul ryan have both said they will approve of a pause in the program, but it is unclear what will happen next. >> what are you hearing about the bill's chances in the senate? alex: senator mcconnell has not said yet what the chamber's plan will be. saidor chuck schumer has a he might be in favor of a cause right now.
on thursday night there is in all member briefing with top members in the law enforcement intelligence agencies to give greater light on a consultative process. >> alex rogers is a congressional reporter for national journal. you can read him at journal -- national journal.com. thank you for being with us. alex: thank you for having me. >> french president spoke with french mayors and tuesday, saying his country would honor the commitment to accept 30,000 refugees, despite the terrorist attacks. those attacks left 129 dead, and over 300 wounded. this 30 minute speech courtesy e
president: madam mayor of paris, city of light that has been attacked, we are with you. , throughd gentlemen you, francis brought together. brought together during hardship. united through resolution. resolving to fight. because the -- circumstances are exceptional at the moment. as i speak before you, a police operation, a particularly. list police operation -- perilous police operation has just ended. the aim was to neutralize last night's terrorist set up. ties to theth
perpetrators of the attacks that occurred on friday night. terrorist died during the attack. people were arrested. imagine the concern of the people. commend the to levelheadedness. i would also like to express my solidarity with the mayor of sundin the. -- saint denis. the attack happened in his constituency, and once again he was alongside the police forces as the assault was given. finally, i would like to express our attitude, our admiration for
en, thema , the people who launched this operation. they were aware of the danger. the maybe underestimated violence they would be faced with. but they saw the mission through. many were wounded. i am also thinking of those -- policeicers the areawho went into to attack the terrorist and neutralize them once again. dear mayors, france is proud to
be able to call on your strength and quality to protect its citizens. [applause] these acts show once again that we are at war. we are at war against terrorism. terrorism which declared war on us. the jihadist organization, it has resources, and an army, it has oil. it has a territory. europe --ies in allies in europe, including in our country, with young, radicalized people.
it commits atrocities there, and wishes to kill here. it has killed here. during the night of the 13th of november, at least 129 people lost their lives. our thoughts go to them. women whoen, to these were cowardly killed, traumatized. our thoughts go to their families. who are now grieving. these attacks bloodied paris and sunday --saint deris, but affects all of the french people, no matter where they live in the country. because it is the entire country that was attacked. because of what it stands for and represents, it's values, its
terrorism.eradicate quite simply for what we are. the the terrorist attack is very idea of france. what it represents. what it has been throughout the generations. for the freedom that it proclaims for the universal right that it defense. -- defends. on the what was attacked night of the 13th of november. barbarians, in their blind, violent attack, the french people with all of their diversity. without concerning themselves with ethnicity and religion. it is the use of france that was targeted. outh of france that was
targeted, because it represents vitality, freedom, simply life. the emotion is huge and so is the anger. ish and every one of us experiencing compassion for the victims of the attacks. action to neutralize the perpetrators of these attacks, and those who give the orders. the aim of these terrorists is us.errorize us, to divide sure to guarantee within each commune of friends -- france, the unity that is our strength. the levelheadedness that is our dignity. you are elected officials of the republic.
diversity of the our country. and you also represent all of because as of the country. but when faced by a terrorist threat we are all the same. all of the regions are the same. there is no longer a political strife. there is just men and women with a duty -- elected officials who know their responsibilities for the republic. and i know that you want to show that will. before both chambers of the i expressedn monday the responses that i wished to bring to this terrorist threat, which attacked us. at thef all
international level, the syrian operations have been ramped up. hasaircraft carrier arrived. in the eastern mediterranean, it will be able to triple our attacked capacity -- attack capacity. i called the international community. i called on them to become involved in what must be a common action. tuesday i will be going to washington and thursday to barackto speak with obama and vladimir putin to discuss the ordination of our action. this is required so that we can work and act decisively and quickly to achieve our goals. create a large coalition.
striketion to decisively daiish. the issue.is daiish we must show unity among the international community. i know that there are differing interests between countries. they have different points of view. they don't necessarily have the same allies. but what we need to do is annihilate an army which is a threat to the entire world, not just some countries. this is a mission i shall undertake. france, through its armed forces will play a major role in the resolution of this conflict. level, and also at a to look -- to dramatic level to its policies --
diplomatic level to its policies. on the very night of the tragedy i decided to reimplement border controls. with ourin compliance european commitments. state of on a emergency throughout the country. i decided with the overseas ministers that the state of emergency should be applied wherever a threat is present. a bill shall be presented to the parliament this evening which would allow to extend the state of emergency over three months. this bill will also clarify this exceptional procedure.
state of emergency -- it is true means certain restrictions of freedom. but by using this tool, this enables us to reestablish those freedoms, fully later on. administrative measures are being of limited. house arrests have been handed down. these are with a particular goal in mind, to identify accomplices , to dismantle networks, to isolate radicalized elements in society. smuggling,nd to which provides money and logistic capabilities to terrorists. that is what we mean by emergency. but we must go further. this war has been raging for
years already. end.ll take time to see it . firmness.tience and isaac the necessary decisions to enable countries to join the within respect to the rule of law and international conventions. legalministration and structure has been reinforced since 2012. antiterrorist laws have in past. intelligence laws have been passed. there are still left and learn from the day to day activities of our services. enabling our legal institutions -- enabling our tools so, creating
that no emergency situation does not have an answer. that's what we must do. for an amendment to the constitution. strong reasons to which to change such a fundamental text. we need a robust legal framework that will not let us face such exceptional circumstances. not the transfer of civil power to domestic services, or the transfer of full powers to -- with article 16. we must envision all options. i have not of unity turned away any suggestions, even though some of them do go against our international
communities. with the prime minister, i wanted a counselor to be brought in on the issue and make suggestions on what would be useful to us. the government will work closely with the parliament. i will make sure of that with the prime minister. decided to ramp up recruitment for the security forces for the justice department, for border controls, and 8000 new jobs will be created in the civil administrations. no job will be lost in the coming years. policeman -- more policeman. more of these people deployed in the communes in france, and better equipped and better armed.
the president suggested that we should think about what we can do to work with the local authorities to improve our vigilance. know has as you international commitments. we wish to uphold these commitments, but the state must also be a will to protect itself. given this, given that the road ahead is long, i want all of the powers of the state to be made available to us citizens. i know i can count on your support of the 3900 local police services. i would like to commend their helping the national police services.
i know they are also at risk. that youngforgotten invisible police officer killed on the eighth of january. will help you better protect our fellow french people, and also better protect municipal police officers by financing their meant -- equipment, and also providing to the mayor who so desire weapons from the national armory. we will also ramp up security through better means that will an evident -- enable us to act with more strength. i am very attached to the be actions that
we carried out in a framework of this state of emergency. the appropriation from traveling to certain areas, only mayors can help with that. i am also thinking of the protection of public buildings which could be potential targets for terrorist. .ere again, we need your help the entire minister has asked for organization in each department. meetings with mayors to inform them of the nature of the terrorist threat, the presence of dangerous individuals, and the security measures that the state will implement. that mayors and cities are in some involved in the management of
priority security concerns. act toain we can continue to fight against smuggling in certain areas using the appropriate means. actors in the surveillance sells for radicalization created in each department. this is a vital mission. tragically today we are seeing how important this is. when he to make sure that young french people do not become a danger for themselves, and also for the country where they live. the country they belong to. day dear mayors. you fight so that our differences cannot come -- become points of conflict. -- true terror da
iish wishes, through massacres, too poisonous with fear and division. let us not given to isolationism. it is not -- let us not give in to fear. to access. -- excess. our social cohesion is the best answer we can bring. the national unity shows this. inmust be unwavering condemning any hateful act. anti-semitic, xenophobic, anti-muslim act must be tolerated. if individuals wish to honor terrorist in groups and communities, then the bill which will -- was presented this
morning to the council will allow dissolution of these groups. they will immediately be dissolved. i would also like to call on your vigilance. because you come a mayors of france, no better than anyone -- anyone, yourhan population, your region, your constituents. mr. president, you expressed your position regarding principles and your position honors you. that is to talk about refugees. some wish to link the terrorist threat to the influx of migrants. the truth is that link exist. the people who are running from iraq in syria because they are attacked by the very same people who are attacking us today.
the great majority of these refugees are going to northern europe, germany, and the united kingdom. , in all of its sovereign right here -- sovereignty has decided to join in the effort in helping these refugees. 30,000 refugees will be taken in the coming years. policy to beis carried out in collaboration with the mayors. minister brought together those who wish to the involved in this initiative, that was the 12th of september this year. many of you did answer the call. many of you are already welcoming migrants from callie. i would like to express my gratitude to you. government can help you.
we will set up a support mechanism that will help create these sites. have duties towards the migrant, but we also have a duty to protect the french people. know the concerns of held by some -- upheld by some. france must answer these. we stand by the country including jordan, turkey, lebanon. and trends must also make sure before people enter the european soil that there is no risk for our country.
we will therefore carry out the before we allow refugees on our soil. this is what we have been doing in the past, and we will continue to do. itsreform on asylum kind of -- candidates will enable us to whose asylum to anyone presence on french soil is a threat. this is how we will guarantee safety. with increased border patrols while training true to our values. ladies and gentlemen, mayors, i know you. i know what you do day by day. i know what you do for the constituencies. -- the sentence sends citizens and their well-being and safety. i know what your idea of your public is. -- republic is.
you want your fellow citizens to be members of the nation. you want them to share your republican ideals. areow you, i know you attached. the french republic is a society in which anyone is free to believe or not believe. the state does not recognize any religion, but allows anyone to have any religion they so desire. for allsm is a rule public institutions. it protects privacy. secularism means everyone has a place, but nothing threatens it. our sharedtrust and rentals, in our shared project beyond any diversity. it is this unity that makes us all french and proud to be french.
terrorist take away the lives of innocents. own also wish to attack our lives. france shallis -- remain a country of freedom, of movement, of culture, and active, valiant country. downntry that never backs when faced with terror. on. must go what would our country be without these cafes, without these sporting events, without these concerts. what would be our citizens -- cities without these -- the day-to-day bustle. what would be our villages without fraternity? showedld has once again its solidarity with us.
it has colored the greatest world monuments in red white and blue. the world has been looking to france, because we are freer than elsewhere. friends needs to remain true to itself. our duty is to ensure that life goes on. our businesses can work. that our cultural buildings are open. welcomed.ourists are that french people can move around and travel. can trustrench people in their own country. our duty is to guarantee safety and guarantee freedom. and to continue on with life. count on the mobilization of the mayors of friends. elected00,000 locally
officials. onguard -- national avant garde. i know i can count on a nation so that in this war threats to rise. long live the republic and along with france -- long with france. [applause] >> on the next washington journal, senator gary peters of michigan. a member of the homeland security and governmental affairs committee on the u.s. strategy against isis. then a look at climate change with ben kirkman, a professor at the university of miami rosenstiel school of marine and atmospheric science. journal, live every
morning at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. you can join the conversation with your calls and comments on facebook and twitter. next, remarks by secretary of state john kerry at the overseas security advisories council. earliery was in paris this week and spoke about the paris attacks and stressed the importance of combating isis. this is 20 minutes. >> it is obvious he needs note introduction.
but he is the son of a foreign service officer, and then answered his own call to duty with two tours in the u.s. navy. he went to vietnam, followed by , 20 year career in politics during which time finishing up as the head of our senate formulations committee. to our great benefit, coming on as the secretary of state. the 68th secretary of state, john f kerry. [applause] kerry: thank you very good morning everyone, thank you all for taking the time to be here. , bill, not just her introduction, but your outstanding leadership of beautiful medic -- diplomatic security service. i want to thank dan from raytheon and my home state. and the 34 member organizations sack for your
tremendous contributions at a moment where the reality is -- of what george schultz but of doing 30 years ago or so has a lot more meaning, a lot more impact. yesterday i returned from paris, the city of lights as it is where as everyone knows too well last friday, the forces take thats tried to light away. replacing it with fear, terror, death, and chaos. obviously this tragedy came on the heels of terror strikes in beirut, baghdad home and the explosion of commercial aircraft in egypt, which we now know from russians, they have deemed to have been a terrorist act. last weekend i think most of you
know, i was in vienna where we brought together a broadly represented international group and agreed on the outlines of a plan to try to bring the syrian war to an end. the syrian war as we all know is a combination of things. it is a civil war -- yes. but it is also a proxy war, regrettably. that has to end. the president commissioned me, particularly to seize the initiative, and go out and try to bring the parties together. for the first time we were able to bring all of the parties to the table. including iran and russia. some criticized that, but i have to tell you, i don't know how you end the war if some of the biggest stakeholders are not at the table, prepared to try to find a political solution.
now it is complicated. no question about it. that are forces at play have been at play long before the united states of america became a country. that does not mean that they are irreconcilable or impossible to be able to deal with. ande are a lot of sunni shiite living together peacefully before the middle east began to boil over in the way that it is today, due to a lot of different factors, not just the iraq war, that obviously played a key role. no one can hide from that fact. coulter, andof modernity. a clash of -- a process that has
been building for some. of time -- some amount of time as certain players have supported certain philosophies and ideologies and spread them, investments into different countries, those are coming back to white people today. .- bite people today in the end i do believe that the vast majority of people -- vast majority of people, i hear the forever ago -- i go, are absolutely, totally committed in an unprecedented way to come together across ethnic, religious, political, cultural lines to fight for decency, and stability, and a future that is not based on creating chaos and violence. daiish does not have a platform, folks.
arguing about health care or infrastructure or schools, they don't want schools. whatever degree, they don't want an educated, they want them educated exactly by what they believe. --y kill people because they they kill christians because they are christians. people need to understand this, there is no negotiation. there is nothing to negotiate when you license rape as a form of daily life and collect the will of god. show me a religion anywhere, including islam which teaches that. this is a complete aberration. ideologues runre amok, but a lot are criminals run amok, and people for whom this is an adventure.
it is a great opportunity to go out and be paid to do whatever you want, rape, pillage, and plunder. this is a bullet for all of us, let me make that clear. this is a generational moment, a moment in history where we all have to collectively stand up and say, no, we will not accept this, but also we will not be intimidated. we will not be somehow cowered in our pursuit of daily life and the values which drive us as a country and as a people, as human beings. we have worked too hard and too world wars, and through the cold war, and the creation of the united nations and all that comes with it, and all of our efforts to try and carry values and interest that talk about resolving things through rule of god -- rule of law and living peacefully together and promoting tolerance, tolerance.
that is one of the most important words -- words and like today. it is one of the most important organizing principles in any decent society. that is our obligation. we need to absolutely make clear , our willingness and determination to stay together, to protect each other, to show that we are not intimidated and we will never allow these terrorist to achieve their vile aims. let me make my point as clearly as i can, there are no grounds of history, religion, ideology, psychology, politics, economic his advantage -- a disadvantage, or personal ambition to justify the slaughter of unarmed civilians. the bombing of public places, or indiscriminate violence towards innocent men, women, and children, and such atrocities can never be rationalized, and we can never allow that.
there is no excuse. they have to be stopped. that is precisely where the advisory council is playing an indispensable role and where you can play a larger role going forward. let me make this clear, we do not have any illusions about how complicated this is. think that do not another invasion by americans, and yet another -- in yet another was an country in which the local citizens are not prepared to fight back and hold the land that you then gain makes a lot of sense. which is why our strategy, and there is one, it is clear, it is working, not as fast as anyone would like, but working. we have liberated communities in iraq and syria. tikrit which was taken over by sunni comeen 100,000
back and rebuild. a refinery is back in the hands of iraqis. the forces of iraq where they have lost 200 people are fighting to retake ramadi. and they will. -- related over the weekend. just in the last few days we have taken on their oil revenue, which is where they are early getting there money to pay for this -- these tentacles reaching out. we destroyed over 151 oil trucks, that will continue. the campaign to stop them from into iraq and turkey from which they get hundreds of millions of dollars. in addition we have shut off three quarters of the border from northern syria to turkey. kilometers is a operation we will engage and together with the turks in order to shut that off.
and kurdssyrian arabs who are starting to put pressure on iraq a and b last few days we have seen russia and france increase the bombing level. we will see greater effort. there is another side of the coin, why do all these fighters come there? where did they come from? -- assme to fight song ad. they came to fight because he and his response to the arab spring was to send his bones to beat of the young people who went out to demonstrate for jobs , and opportunity, and future. when the parents of those young people saw what had happened to them, the parents went out and mistreated -- demonstrated. they were met not with loads, but with bullets and bombs. now you have over 300,000 cizens of a country who have been killed, errol bond, --tured, starved, gassed
beryl bond, tortured, starved, gassed, which is against international laws. and three quarters of the country has already voted with their feet. they are displaced people. 4 million refugees. the rest of them displaced within the country itself, seeking refuge and shelter from the man who supposedly leads the country. 65% sunni majority country. me that evenlling the united states wanted to keep them he could not do it. those folks will not stop fighting because what he has done. that is the other couple getting factor. daiish, and asad. for the first time we had people sit down at the table and everyone, including iran and russia signed on to a communique that says we all want the united syria. we all want a secular syria. we all want a syria in which
they minority -- the minority is fully protected. all of the signed on to that, acluding signing on to transitional process of governance, where you put together a governing capacity that can take some of the power d currently has in order to put together a constitutional reform process which everyone signed onto, and ultimately have an election. now they have signed onto something like six months to try to do the political process, and a year to be able to have -- 1.5 years to have the election. that is unanimous. -- difficulty will become will come in the application. i will you i think every country there understands -- this is dangerous, and it is empowering evil people. hopefully common sense can
prevail. we have seen a lot of that in the last few days, happily. it has been hard to come by. i think people are prepared to show it. dayse over these next few constantly open to figuring out how we can qualitatively apply more pressure, do a better job. the president has make radical decisions. he -- critical c decisions. he is putting more feet on the ground to enable people to target and learn how to do things more effectively. withcertain that working everyone, if the political process works, the theory of the case is simple -- if you can get a transitioning counsel, if you can begin to move power to an excepted entity, then you have the ability to bring everyone in
the region together to go after isil, that includes the standing army of syria. that is how much hangs in the balance right now on this political effort. to see if diplomacy can actually succeed in creating the transition, and indeed empowering all of us together. what is notable about the situation as every single country in the region is opposed to daiish. every country in the world, every civilized person. clever,vinced if we are creative, patient, tenacious, steadyent, and study -- we will have the ability to be able to destroy daiish, and in doing that send a message to any that the the world
world will stand united against barbarism, and against an attack on her very purpose and reasonableness itself. our embassy as you know has been working around the clock delivering the full range of consular assistance to everyone who is in france. all americans in france. we will continue to help however we can. i will thank you today profoundly for the work. behind the scenes you have performed the role that you are conceived to play. as a point of contact for our private sector in a moment of crisis, and the source for intelligence and security for u.s. organizations abroad. osacthe very first night, created a website for the country counsel, that was available to over 150 people in the area. since then, they have been in constant touch with private sector constituents in and around paris, offering advice,
and sharing security-related updates with u.s. organizations and businesses. sac also reached out to california state university whose student, sent advisories to other americans who are studying in france. state connected postprivate sectors and do attack reporting and analysis that will help everybody be able to prepare for the future. all of these efforts frankly combined remind us why george shultz was precient when he established the structure. he knew from his own experience the world was growing more dangerous, even as it became more interconnected. he knew that it is going to be very important for our diplomats and citizens to work together and have each other's back.
the events of the past few days speak to the essential need for government or business or nonprofit or elsewhere to stay ahead of the curve in assessing new risks and taking protective measures to respond to them. we obviously cannot afford to be slow in sharing information because information that comes late or not at all is the precursor to disaster. we have to be knowledgeable enough about local conditions and circumstances to discern the difference between an empty threat in a real one -- and a real one. would have to stay in touch so that if an emergency arises as in paris last week, we know where you are and what you need. since friday night, there has been a great deal of discussion ,bout so-called soft targets cafes, restaurants, sporting
events, a concert venue, soccer stadium, so forth. the types of places you would not automatically expect to be a prime target for a global terrorist organization, which they are today. these targets are viewed as anonymous destinations chosen almost at random. and mapn a google maps it out pretty easily these days. the ultimate purpose of the attacks is to do what the name terrorist implies, to scare everybody. shopping malls, restaurants, anywhere. the idea is to make us believe that we are always going to be in such grave and imminent danger that we have to stop a we are doing and change our choices and our way of life. the work you are doing is
important. you are building infrastructure. you are conducting business. you are leading local projects. you are providing needed services and participating in civil society. you are helping build the opposite of everything that these people want to destroy. pretty stunning when you think about it. a professor in syria who spent his life curating and caring about our and was the most knowledgeable person about the palmera 83 yearsinea old, they took them out to the square, chopped his head off, and then they destroyed the roman arch that was a simple of his community. nobody the witnesses that kind of destruction and that kind of should have any right of
doubt in our heart forgot about how critical it is for us to stand up. we have stood up before, my friends. stood up to the fascism of world war ii, stood up to the horrors of the holocaust, stood up to the extraordinary moments of challenge. paris had worst moments that had last weekend, and it came out of it. i assure you we will come out of this. we will continue to expand and brought in our commercial and academic connections overseas. we will visit and invite visitors. we will do the right thing by refugees. how is it somebody can suddenly say that a 50 road woman with her grandchildren is going to be a threat? and that we cannot process people adequately to keep faith with our values in this country? we will continue to be proud in this department to represent the united is america. make the mistake -- the united states of america.
make no mistake, every single one of you is an ambassador when you travel abroad. that is what you and your companies represent everyday as you bring with you a set of business practices and set hopes and opportunities and jobs that help shape this world. it matters enormously that you carry that role of ambassadors seriously because in the process, you win friends for our country, you explain to people we are not telling anybody what they have to do. we give people a choice. we do not punish people if they do not make the choice we do not wan want. you can earn respect to those values. in all of this is multiplied when you reply to acts of terror with affirmations of courage and pension and support -- courage
and friendship and support. that is why osac is so vital and why we are happy o to have you here today. thank you for all you have done and continue to do to keep americans safe around the world and to enable america to continue an individual americans themselves to continue to contribute to international prosperity, to development, to democracy, and to justice. my message today is also one of encouragement on to of the past 30 years and to continue inengthening our partnership helping us to make progress in the years to come. thank you very very much. appreciate it. [applause]
>> that will conclude our morning session. towill reconvene at 1:25 begin our risk analysis presentations. thank you. >> on the next washington journal, senator gary peters of michigan, a member of the homeland security and governmental affairs committee, on the u.s. strategy against isis. then, a look at climate change with ben kirton, a professor at the university of miami school of marine and atmospheric science. washington journal live every morning at 7:00 a.m. east on c-span. you can join on facebook and -- join in on the
conversation on facebook and twitter. >> the senate homeland committee examines the threat posed by isis and resettling refugees in the u.s.. we will be live tuesday at 3:00 p.m. eastern on c-span3 -- at 2:00 p.m. eastern on c-span3. >> cia director john brennan also spoke at the overseas security advisory council. his remarks centered on the syrian refugee crisis and comments by the governor saying they will refuse -- by governor's think will refuse refugees in their states. >> good morning everyone. i have a diplomatic security assistant for the investigation and analysis. this morning, i had the pleasure of introducing our first keynote speaker. mr. brennan is in a cop was national security leader with an excessive history of public service.
of 2013, he spent four years as of a national security advisor for homeland security and counterterrorism and assistant to the president. in that role, he advised the president on counterterrorism strategy and coordinated the approach to homeland security including policies for responding to terrorism, cyberattacks, natural disasters, and pandemics. you began service in government at the cia where he worked from 1980 to 2005. careert most of his specializing in the near east and south asia for directing counterterrorism analysis in the early 1990's. in that you 94 and 1995, he was the agency intelligence briefer for president bill clinton.
he led a multiagency effort to establish what would become the national counterterrorism center. after retiring from the cia in 2005, he worked in the private sector for three years. please join me in welcoming the director of the central intelligence agency, the honorable john brennan. [applause] brennan: thank you very much, robert. good morning everyone. i appreciate this invitation to have an opportunity this morning to talk to all of you because of the importance that i attach certainly to osac. that partnership between the private sector and the u.s. government and particularly here at the department of the state is so important and i do want to take a moment to express my great appreciation, gratitude, and aberration for the diplomatic security here and
original security officers and assistant rso's around the world who do a tremendous role in job andeeping u.s. diplomats intelligence officers say and do a great job making sure u.s. citizens are kept a safe as they could be. i juste interaction, want to be able to say our half of the cia we greatly appreciate the tremendous work and sacrifices of our state department colleagues. i don't believe there has ever been a time for a stronger partnership between the public and private sector. just looking out over the last 2.5 weeks and the tragic attacks that took eighth in paris -- took place in paris, the airline taken down an agent, the bombings of beirut, all of them interpreted to isil. 400 dead.
500 injured. caliphate,o-called is just the latest manifestation of what is a blind adherence to a twisted and contorted ideology that could lead to such bloodshed around the world. i think we all know what al qaeda has been able to do over the last several decades. it was nearly 20 years ago when i was in saudi arabia dealing with al qaeda. andas in the early stages looking at what it was able to do on our homeland here. esh as the isil, da arab acronym it is known by, it is a different phenomenon in my mind. some ofe that has taken the al qaeda and other terrorist models and expanded it significantly.
it has deep roots in iraq and , being al qaeda in iraq and syria in years past. it has branched out beyond iraq and syria into other parts of the middle east, africa, asia, and beyond, spreading his pursuit of intolerance, subjugation, and violence well beyond its early areas of occupation and activities. just taking a look at what happened in paris demonstrates their commitment to random violence in terms of going after the most horrible targets and carrying out as much mayhem and reading as much death and as muchion -- wreaking death and destruction against innocents. the have taken advantage of the freedoms and liberties we are so proud of in much of the world.
they also have taken full advantage of social media, using that as an environment to indoctrinate, to communicate, brainwashed, direct, guide, train, and also presenting a very misleading narrative and oppression of what is going on inside iraq and syria. they have been able to use these great advances in technology to further their aims. certainly, they have been aided by much instability and political upheaval and sectarian tensions throughout the region. they have been able to take advantage of that. they are able to advance their goals and objectives. i started out the national security intelligence in 1980. i must say, i have never seen a time when we have faced more serious and consequential issues confronting our national security around the globe.
carrie and myself and others spent much time in the white house in the white house situation room with president obama and others to address these issues that span the globe that are of such intensity and consequence as well as so quick to develop as well as to have impact around the world that there has been never a time that i think the u.s. national security challenges have been greater, nor the requirement for the united states to be actively involved in trying to address these many challenges. i have spent a good part of my life working on living in, studying in the middle east. i must say the middle east and the islamic world is going through some very challenging times. fromg a transition authoritarian governments and regimes to try to move forward
with democratic principles and reforms is certainly very challenging. because of the embedded obstacles to those reforms to include on the economic front moving away from centrally planned economies to a premarket capital system where individual opportunity is rewarded. unfortunately, in many of these societies and countries, corruption remains rampant. weak is still very institutions of government, governance. displaced people, refugees, great unevenness division of wealth. when i look out over the next decade or more, and i see this territorynsive in the middle east, africa, asia, i think we will be facing serious challenges as we move
forward. these challenges are compounded by the new environment that we are dealing with, which is the digital domain, the cyber environment that can be used for great good and to advance the interests of prosperity and freedom and liberty, but also can be used as a domain in an environment for ill and to do harm. swear in a new class of cia officers every month, i say this unsettled global landscape will demand their expertise, dedication as we go forward working a strong partnership with our diplomatic enforcement military partners here as well as abroad. despite the unsettled nature of the global landscape, i believe the u.s. is still look that by the overwhelming majority of the worlds populations as well as governments as something that is very special.
our commitment to universal progress, tocial economic prosperity, to individual freedoms and liberties are much admired and o.dely aspired tp i think as importantly is the strong reputation and capabilities and potential of the u.s. private sector because the u.s. private sector still is seen as the world leader in innovation, entrepreneurship, education, medicine, technology, science, and so much more. so i think this is the time for us to be able to stand tall among each other, stand tall with our allies and partners around the world as we face that arellenges wit serious that we will be injuring at least for a wild weekend in
fact deal with the challenges that lie ahead in a collective and constructive way. osac i believe plays a very important role in helping keep the u.s. dream alive here in the united states, but then worldwide. i am committed to making sure and intelligence community does everything possible to work with our state department colleagues and the private sector to ensure that we do our utmost to be able to optimize the safety and security of americans and american companies and enterprises around the world. earlier this week, i gave some remarks at the csis here in washington. rather than repeat, i would just invite you to take a look on the website. i invite you to look at what i that has been
unfortunately misrepresented in some corners. with that, i would welcome the opportunity to address the questions you might have in the remainder of my time. we have microphones on either walk forward, ask your question, and he will be happy to respond. >> thank you very much for your presence here today. we hear quite often in terms of intelligence sharing internationally about the i-5, but we do not hear much about what is happening between us and france. of course, others in the western world fellow economic societies
that are all the target of this threat you describe for us. i would like to hear it i could what exchange is taking place on a broader scale. thank you. director brennan: when i look back over the last 14 years or so since 9/11, there has been determined his progress in the united states as well as internationally as far as putting together the architecture that is required to be able to share and access information in as rapid a fashion as possible. as we have come to realize in the states, a lot of the departments and agencies have different information technology systems. we have different authorities. we have different responsibilities as far as handling different types of information to include u.s. citizens. we have come a very long way over the last 14 years. in addition, it is not just what
we have been able to do here within the united states or within the federal government. i think there is a lot of good and robust hearing. we are trying to and we have made a lot of progress internationally. the information sharing systems with the i-5 are rooted in traditional information sharing practices and systems. our information sharing practices and mechanisms with other countries are as strong as what we have been able to do. you have the mechanisms to shut information, we share it electronically because we want to make sure it gets to the recipient as quickly as we can. sometimes, we still have to provide some hard copy of the information, but the real challenge is to make you take the information and maybe derived from very sensitive sources, whether it be human or
technical, and whatever it might be acquired around globe, it could have applications for somewhere else and to move the essence of that information through a system that will enable the person on the other end with the entity to receive it. for example conference. we have -- for example, france. we have had a strong interaction with them about what it is we need to continue to do as far as sharing the information, but also sharing strategic approaches at what our policy courses are that we are able to deal with this challenge that we all face. it does span the gamut of partners around the globe. i mentioned the session on monday that over the last five weeks or so, i have had a number of conversations with my russian counterpart. despite the policy difference we may have in syria and ukraine,
these have been discussions about how we can in fact share more information about this threat from iisl and what we and to do to have -- isil what we need to do to have the procedures in place so if we have threat information, it will get to them as quickly as possible. we take very seriously within the u.s. government our duty to warn responsibilities. we have information about a threat to a particular entity, person, or whatever, we make sure we move it very quickly. as you know, a lot of times, information that comes in is broad, vague. sometimes the ultimate sourcing is uncertain. whentime particularly now there is concerned, there could be operations that are somehow underway. that threshold is as low as it can be. one of the challenges we have as an intelligence community working with our partners is
trying to separate out this time. in the aftermath of these terrible attacks, there is always a spike in terms of people who will be reporting bogus threat information. it is really up to the professionals within the government as well as the private sector to be able to take the information that is available. i do distinguish between a strategic warning in terms of a barometric pressure. we know that there is something brewing. we don't know a setting where it will hit or when, but there are things you can do in light of what the intelligence portends. it is when you have a more specific intelligence, then you can take some preemptive action that is going to try to disrupt the plot underway. every day around the globe, law enforcement security intelligence agencies are taking action that disrupt the plans and intentions and activities of
these terrorist organizations. .nfortunately, some get through this is what we have seen over the last several weeks. i can tell you and i am sure you consult the same thing that these types of incidents only redouble the determination of security professionals to make sure we do the best jobs we can and we hope to do that. surely i have not answered all of your questions. [laughter] >> maybe i can pose a question. our audience is a bit shy this morning. since friday's attacks, there has been a lot in the media of the threat from refugees from syria and other countries may impose. can you comment a little bit on how you see this security situation pertaining to the refugees that are coming to ?urope and the united states
director brennan: that is one of the biggest questions as well as the biggest challenges we are facing right now with the tremendous displacements of individuals from these warring lands, whether it be iraq or syria. it is approaching 50% of the operation has been internally displaced or moved across borders to neighboring countries or migrating them to europe and beyond. i do think it is important for us to do a number of things. country the i a believe prides itself on its tradition of welcoming people from around the globe. there is no other country on the face of the earth that is more than a melting pot than the united states. we want to make sure we are able to maintain our commitment to those values and the things that made this country great, which
is why we do not want the terrorists to succeed in terms of what it is they are trying to do. i think it time, makes it even more incumbent on the security intelligence professionals to make sure that we are able to look at individuals who are coming into e to country with an ey what we might know about individuals or ways that service sneakzations might try to people into these networks and refugee flows. one of the things i certainly am determined to do and working in concert with my fellow partners abroad is what we can do to strengthen the system that allows us to have as best insight as possible into the background of these individuals as well as what their intentions might be. what we need to do is strike that balance. as i noted earlier this week, there are a number of challenges
from a legal policy political standpoint that makes striking this balance challenging. we need to make sure we are able to how the government play what i think is certainly its rightful role in protecting its ableenry to have the government play the rightful role in protecting its citizenry. for many years, decades, centuries, we've had experience means to bet domain. in the physical maritimeir ma, on the domain. the aviation donation. digitaldomain, the domain is different as far as history and experience.
we need to understand the government in the demain. there's a great debate about what the government's role is in the debate. great debatee the about what it is that we need to do in order to ambulance rights and civil liberties. what is the role for the government to protect the domain citizenries. i don't think we're there yet. is one of the -- all of us history, ansic digital domain. we jumpur atm cards and
gas and check in to a hotel or get on an airplane. we create that forensic history. havelso from groups that .he capability to understand we have to understand what the role is in the domain. i say the government should not play a role in it. i think this is one of the fundamental challenges the country is going to face in the coming years. i'm certainly determined had what i can to be able to explain as thoseerspective challenges, those threats, those risks, as well as those opportunities. i think to the, course of our history, we need
to strike that proper balance between the great and individual freedoms for the privacy right that is we embrace and love and want to keep near dear. we are also making sure that our children, neighbors, communities, and the international community is kept from what those who could cause us harm. in terms of visibility to operate within the digital domain. because the digital domain is the web and operated in the private sector. it needs to extend beyond the beyond theain and borders. because the digital world and
respect thoset sovereign noises. you can move things around the world and around so many countries. unless there's going to be some type of international understanding about what is appropriate and acceptable domain, we'reital going to face a world of hurt in the future. what i've been able to understand what our adversaries, those who want to tose us harm, those who want kill and maim in the streets of paris as well as around the can operatehey within that environment. we need to understand what we expect the government to do and is obligedvernment to do in order to make sure our theof life is maintained in future.
yes? >> david smith of "the guardian." what impacts do you think edward snowden's revelations had on talkeding that you just about in the debate over privacy, and secondly could you current asisesment of the threat level to the u.s. homeland in the wake of the attacks. any authorized raise theirthat hands and attested to undermines the individuals and security. have done that over time -- [applause] i heroizing such individuals unfathomable what it
anybody else? one over here. >> scot brian. thank you for your time today. a lot of young people in the group who are in government service and also in security companies. my question is this, given your the government and what you've done for years, do hope for the future? if so, what gives you that hope. >> that's a fair question. in terms of what i just talked about. absolutely. i am hopeful -- not only hopeful, i am optimistic. because as we've looked back country,history as a we have had to deal with some tremendous, tremendous challenges. nazi germany in terms of rolling over europe. in each one of the instances,
dark and theoked future looked bleak. because of what it is that the havery is founded upon, we always risen to the occasion. what i really want to have about then i talk digital world and the cyberworld, i don't want to have to see the united states to endure the equivalent of a 9/11. be able to take these preemptively, preventively, prophylactically. when i think about the internet going to be more dependent on the worldwide web, we need to be mindful of not opportunities are but then what the vulnerabilities are and dependencies on security. when i talked to our new recruits as well as student groups that i go out, i pursue theirm to dreams of being involved in
international security, andrnational affairs, intelligence. because i tell them this is such a historic time for so many reasons. the global landscape that's changed, technology that's a daily basis. they are coming in on a time of great opportunity if you are a national security intelligence specialist. but for students i also give them a world of caution and warning. say that once you get in to the realm of security and national security, it gets into your blood. it is something that drives you. you become addicted to making sure you are doing your level best, and you are the absolute achieve what it is that your mission asked of you, which is to keep the safe.y strong and with athe past 35 years sector, itim private is certainly something that has
motivated me to work with professionals, not just at cia, but across the u.s. government around the globe for the people who are really determined to make sure this country is heightsobtain greater in the future. so i encourage people -- young are here who are part of this effort. type ofave a new challenge that we have to face. this is a time, as i said, that stand tallbe able to and to let those who want to do us harm know that we are the of america.s we can stand up to this. we're going to get through it. we're going to do it in partnership with our good allies around the globe. i'm certainly willing to can ine to do what i partnership to you. thank you so much. i believe i have to go. i wish you well. for your work and your service. i look forward to being able to work with you in the future. very much. [applause]
brennan.you, mr. [applause] officials from state department testify about syrian refugees seeking asylum in the u.s. be live at the house judiciary subcommittee hearing c-span3. 9:00 a.m. on senator homeland security committee looks at plan to resettle syrian refugees in the u.s. c-span3 at 2:00 eastern. >> president obama has said the united states will accept 10,000
syrians, including this year. thursday the u.s. house is expected to vote on legislation requirements for syrian refugees coming to the country. next remarks by house speaker the bill and other members about the paris terrorists attack. >> the world stands with the people of paris this week. all of us were shaken. we know whenever terror like this strikes, the world community will rally together. terror will not prevail. should serve as a reminder that there's still evil out there. we cannot ignore it. cannot contain it. we must defeat it and protect our people. the country is uneasy and unsettled. every right to be. not because of what they are hearing from politicians, but
with their ownen eyes. all of us here, republicans and hearing these concerns in our offices. the plight ofand those fleeing the middle east. they also want basic assurances this country. of we are a compassionate nation. always have been and we always will be. but we also must remember that our first priority is to protect people.ican we can be compassionate and we be safe. that's what the bill that we're bringing up tomorrow is all about. a new standard of verification for refugees from syrian and iraq. a pause in the program until we can be certain those any doubt that coming here are not a threat. it's that simple. don't think it is asking too
much. i also want to point out that we will not have a religious test. only a security test. if the intelligence and law enforcement community cannot presentshat a person no threat, then they should not be allowed in. this is common sense. is our obligation. let me also say to members and to the country that we cannot lose sight of the bigger threat in syria. the refugee crisis is just a failed policy a in that region. the ultimate solution is a plan isis.eat that's why we are sending to the president a bill this week that requires him to finally propose strategy to deal with syria and the terrorists threat in the region. this threat is not going away until we have knowledge and confront the real danger that exists. there's a long road ahead.
for this moment, i urge all of my colleagues to support the legislation tomorrow and to help keep america safe. i yield back the balance of my time. >> mr. speaker, last week's attacks inrrorists terrorists were a disturbing reminder that the war on terror radicalng and that islamic extremeism represents a clear and present danger to all freedom-loving civilized people. the time since 9/11 has been difficult. we have spent time fighting in the middle east. were made ines afghanistan, iraq, and libya. understandably a war we weary people.
we were reminded that the consequences of inaction or weak action are far greater than any associated with making a unwavering commitment to confronting and defeating radical terrorists. isis is not a problem to be managed or contained. this ambitious terrorist organization is a dangerous the united states and our allies that must be eradicated. fight isis ono their home turf, we'll have to streets ofin the paris and maybe in our own community. just as the private administration recognized that its iraq strategy was failing nowneeded a jolt, it is time for president obama and his national security team to show are serious about destroying this dangerous threat to the stability of the world our own very lives. mr. speaker, i have co-sponsored a resolution authorizing the use
of military force introduced by illinois, my from friend, adam kenzie. presidentuarantee the and our military every tool necessary to defeat isis. resolution deserves a vote so that we can fight to win a to that we cannot afford lose. mr. speaker, since the the president's policy with cuba in december of 78% year, we've witnessed a spike in the number of cubans arriving to our country. an untold number have been lost to the sea. coming byaren't only sea. thousands of cubans are illegally entering central american nations, making the long trek north through mexico entering via our southern border. mercy offer at
reprehensible human trafficking rings. cubansport the number of entering their country illegally has grown from 5,400 last year to 12,166 so far this year. become soem has costa ricanthe government had to temporarily close the border. i'm concerned about another overwhelming our nation, particularly south florida. this is a matter of the national security. the president's immediate attention. cubans on the island seem to be administration's new policy with desperation and lives andng their their safety to escape the cuba. that is castro's speaker, today i rise in support of the administration's provide an
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important step forward in helping the system of higher education in the united states evolve. as we continue our work toward reauthorizing the higher act here in the house, i look forward to collaborating with my colleagues to ensure helping prepare students for success. does notion, one size fit all. this step, by the one in theion, is right direction. thank you, mr. speaker. i yield back. you, mr. chairman. i want to today and discuss the issue of the syrian refugees in the islamic state terrorists who coming across our southern border and in relation to this refugeece of loop pohl.t also i commend the house and our speaker for speaking out and taking inaction to condemn the attacks.
this administration has its intention to refugees10,000 syrian within the united states in fiscal year 2016. want you to think about that number. 2016. in the year they will go to resettlement all across the country if the administration its way. it is important to note that the resettlementugee or the orr as it is called does simply resettle refugees from overseas. fact the o.r.r. has been resettling. they have been resettling thousands of illegal aliens southernross our border. i want to read to you from their 2013 report to congress, and i'm
quoting from the report. other categories eligible for services, certain other persons admitted to the u.s. or granted status under immigration categories also are eligible for refugee benefits in addition certain deemed to be victims of traffickingm of though not legally admitted as o.r.r.s are eligible for benefits to the same extent as ending quote. that's corrects. the o.r.r. resettling illegal aliens not classified as refugees providing another potential gateway for the islamic state terrorists. morely, we would know about the o.r.r. activities if their annual reports 413 a. ofd in section the immigration and nationality act and did in a timely fashion. we have fromrt
them is from 2013. it is not transparent. it is not accountable. and it cannot be trusted. i know this firsthand, mr. speaker. birdwellecretary twice. i have been investing them since traveled to a uac. i would like to submit the letters for the record. we know there are more than mexicans and central americans coming across the southern border. are here, the o.r.r. has no way of tracking them and keeping up with them. watchil, a judicial report cited a mexican army and inspector who adviced they were operating training
bases in close proximity. another report advised that media traffic indicated that isis was planning to southern border in order to carry out a terrorists attack. allto the findings, all -- of our resettlement services suspended.porarily i am currently working on a solution with several of my colleagues to address the loophole that allows non-refugees to be resettled. in the past three weeks, the islamic state has bombed a russian jetliner, committed bombings in beirut, and massacred -- massacred french in paris. they are now exporting their terror. there's simply no method that allow us to determine with syrians orcy whether illegal aliens that we resettle
u.s. are really isis jihadist. mr. speaker, is the isis threat contained? no. can we guarantee that syrian refugees will not commit acts of terror against americans? no. people are?ho these no. are they properly vetted? no. to bringbe responsible syrian refugees into the country after the attacks in paris? the answer is no. do americans across this country want the administration to resettle syrian refugees into the u.s.? no. is the administration dangerously naive on this policy? absolutely. i encourage my colleagues to look closely at the issue. back.d >> the gentleman lady yields back. the chair recognized the from new york for five minutes.
>> thank you for this opportunity, mr. speaker. i would just like to join with americans that feel heart-based sympathy for in losses of our friends europe and france and paris. of course to give sympathy to are hysterical to evidence, even though there's no evidence at all that it was refugees that responsible for it. this type of unprovoked attacks does cause fear and many times behalfnsible behavior on of people as they attempt to fear in all people to extext that it shatters
the principles of what the on.try was built there's enough of us to be concerned about. there's enough for us to be fearful about. there has to be concern as to what are we going to do about it. people are saying we can't win the war against isis until we the military on the ground fighting against the government. we talk about sending troops overseas to put their lives in though it is just another foreign policy decision of congress can any regard at all
to the constitutional toponsibility we have ourselves and to bid example for the world. whenever the great nation is threatened, whenever our national security is threatened, the president should be coming to the house of representatives and share with us our other threats to national security and when it abundantly clear that we have to call upon our military way, we should have a declaration of war for the the president has given to us. to ourponsibility constituents is to share as much information as we can to tell them that war means sacrifice,
loss of life, and yet today we haven't had a declaration of war since franklin roosevelt. tens of thousands of americans died. 1%s recent crisis less than of the eligible americans have themselves in harm's way because of executive allowance of the congress allowing this to happen. 7,000 american lives just in iran and iraq that some funeralse to go to the and explain the best that we can att even though we're not war, that american lives are lost in foreign countries. i submit to you that if we believe that our national security is threatened, we should have a declaration of war. we should have a draft.
should have a way to pay for that we would know that it is not easy sending your abroad and not even know the reasons that they are is there. seem to me that as every one heard the president of they are at war if we are at that war against isis, whatever country they are representing, be brought to the american people and brought to the congress and the president war.d ask us to declare but it is just totally not fair for people in the house of representatives to come here and that americans should be sent overseas to fight an unknown enemy, to put their jeopardy, and perhaps their families in jeopardy able to say that they are fighting a war for
to preserve democracy in this country. me that whether on thel them no feet ground but boots on the ground, but if someone is coming back flag-draped coffin, we should be able to say they america, they died for america, and we are fighting war that to end the has yet to be declared. >> the gentleman from new york yields back. we now recognize mr. barr for five minutes. >> thank you, mr. speaker. i rise today in strong support of our allies. people of france and in strong condemnation of the attacks in paris, france, carried out by the islamic state this last friday. the people of france have been our allies since the american revolution. having traveled to knorr bandy and seeing the flag over omaha
beach, it underscores the important alliance we've had of france.ople ever since we have been united. was anack on friday barbaric the values by terrorists. we grieve for the massive loss of life of not just for the familiesople but the across the globe. we join the voices from around to condemn the attacks but condemnation is not enough. saw first hand while visiting iraq and afghanistan last month, the president's andtegy of withdraw containment is clearly not working. estimating the threat, referring to isil as the j.v.
team, declaring that isil has been detained just hours before attacks in paris, president obama has allowed this radical islamic cancer on to fester and grow. the key to the trip to the middle east is that american retreat has made the world a and much morele dangerous place. the weakness the president's foreign policy and u.s. withdraw from the middle east has allowed our adversary, isil, russian, the taliban, al qaeda, to grow stronger and become a greater threat to the homeland and interest. ally, israel,ur jordannians, government of iraq, government, the unit government of afghanistan, they have all become more threatened and more vulnerable. not a single place in the world which is safer or more stable today or where our adversaries are weaker or where our allies are stronger than on
obama tooksident office. the president has in recent days lectured his critics to come up with their own plan and attacksated his tired s nationaldecessor security policy. if there's any lesson to be learned from the president obama contrastedraq has with u.s. policy after world war germany, it is once you win at war, do not residual security force and continued diplomatic engagement to prevent sectarian divisions that would have prevented the rise of isil. the president said the critics lead us to another war. we don't need to fight the iraq war again. we've won the war. we do need to do more to combat isil. authorizing use of
military force that doesn't commander in chief which is what the president sent us. ally,n't we do what our president obama aye bad dee and has asked us for which is more air power and u.s. operators on the ground for air campaign, more funding for the train and equip fund. we must do more. the ground to take back the territory controlled by isil. we must address the surge of refugees. are in desperate need of help. the answer is not to resettle them halfway around the world here in the u.s. an open-ended resettlement program is, in fact, an admission of defeat that the homes will never be safe for them to return to. assimilate them to new languages and new culture. that's not the best solution for the refugees. because we know that at least one of these terrorists involved
in the paris attacked entered with thoselending in trying to flee isil, we could security risk to the u.s. we shouldn't take the indigenous anti-isilway from the campaign. protectlet's actively them in their home country by helping them defeat isil and win the war. can do foring we these people is to defeat the enemy and end their reign of terror, death, rape, and oppression. we need a new strategy not to eliminateil, but to them. the refugee issue is a simple matter of common sense. problem is larger than the refugees. as we were reminded so friday in paris, failure to con train terrorists and radical ideologies abroad an opportunity to grow and spread an attack here at home. let's grieve and pray for the people of france. let's do more. let's rise up with them to our shared commitment to
liberty, security, and freedom. thank you. i field back. >> mr. speaker, america has a long tradition of opening its people fromess around the globe. while the human rights of those flees terror and destruction must be respected, it is vital that ourork to ensure nation's safety is in place in mile andof tour unrest. the united states cannot self totely close its the stark realities of the world. nor should we accept tens of thousands of people without proper screening. that's why i've called on pennsylvania governor, tom wolf, efforts to bring efforts to bring syrian refugees to pennsylvania until there are mechanisms to place. to facilitate there's screening needed. legislationng prompting the department of homeland security in coordination with the director national intelligence and the
fbi. provide assurances and a weeping review of the security gaps. this measure addresses both short comings in the interesting and ensures a role for congressional oversight. the refugee crisis the world symptom of a larger problem. wanting islam to stabilize and destroy others. we need a long-term solution to the problem. defeating isis. speaker.ack, mr. headlines,ur recent aheadeaders race to get of the refugee issue."
why is the race? attacks,ter the there's a fever to figure out how to best respond. there's a passport found by the bombers. now there's been an uproar figures out how they should be brought in to the united states. recently president obama 10,000 new syrian refugees will be brought in next year. the house has a bill that's up that would add greater scrutiny and essentially have a on that resettlement program. so the republicans are bringing up that bill in the house amorrow and then there's question of what's going to afterwards.e senate host: now the bill is authorized michael michael chair, mchale. he said it is reasonable to stop refugee process until we can
be sure that our government can keep terrorists out. how are refugees currently being vetted? how would the stricter check work? alex: the administration has again whatain and the syrian refugee resettlement program is now is of the most get through. so far there's only been around refugees that have been brought in over the past four years in the conflict. they have to go through a multi-agency process where you interviews,on biometric and biographic checks with law enforcement and agencies, that's from the referral united nations refugee program. ist the house bill would do essentially make a 100% assurance that none of the refugees that we brought in are terrorist threat. now the administration has
already put a white house veto threat on the bill because they is completely unnecessary and not adherent to american values. will see how many democrats in the house vote for it tomorrow. the blue dog caucus and some of the more moderate democrats have already singled their support. the democratic leaders will most likely oppose. i spoke with the house and ranking member, congressman schiff from california. oppose it as well. host: you mentioned the democratic pushback. a ranking member on the tweetedion subcommittee the bill would immediately shutdown refugee resettlement in the syrian and iraq region and handicap future refugee settlement. democrats have any involvement in crafting the bill? might they offer an alternative? the house gop leadership
conferred with the democratic leadership. will unclear where they move forward after tomorrow. mitch mcconnell and speaker paul ryan have both said they would approve of a pause in the program. going tolear what is happen next. host: what are you hearing about thebill's chances in senate? alex: senator mcconnell hasn't said yet exactly what chamber's plan is going to be. chuck schumer has said that he may be in favor of a right now on thursday night. there's an all member briefing the law members and enforcement intelligence agencies to give greater light a complicated process. it is unclear what's going to happen. host: alex rodgers is a professional reporter for "national journal ." you can read him at nationaljournal.com.
thanks for being with us. ex: thanks for having me. talked after aer u.s. securitye and the aftermath of the paris attacks in paris. this is 15 minutes. >> we had about a two and a half briefing that ranged from things that may be happening in syria to dealing refugee issues, discussions, candid things like
program whichr obviously has created some degree of concern. there's again information that's going to be developed around that. it was a very good briefing. think that a lot of information that was shared that and, you know, i a result of the terrible things that have happened in paris that we're going to see much more robust in syria by countries throughout europe. we'll see what happens. obviously there are commitments i'm aware of.hat i'm hopeful that as these issues move to the u.n. security council and other places that a possibility for greater engagement and greater condemnation of isil and what and are doing in syria
other places. >> senator, we've heard from senators of both parties come out and say they have much more confidence in the syrian refugee vetting program that they did doing in. you've been critical of the program -- no -- haven't beeni critical of it. what i have stated is that -- it incumbent upon the administration to share with us the americanh people the voracity of the program. long wayhink went a toward that. one of the things that i tried end withhere at the some of the briefers is they have a tendency because of what basis ton a daily concerns thatown average americans have who are raising their families and going to work. they are just -- they care about their family's security. i think that again -- i'll say it one more time. i think it is incumbent upon the
just to talkn not about values which obviously are of us, but toll talk about the actual technical aspects of what is taking place know, thereat, you aren't gaps. did i leave here thinking still there were not gaps? i cannot say that, because, you know, the fbi was not here to testify. they will be at the all briefing, all members briefing tonight at 5:00. been some statements fbi publicly by the director relative to the fact that if someone hasn't create add ripple in the pond in the past then there would be no way to actually know of what their background is. clearly int to say think part of america's values is accepting people in need. camps visited the refugee in turkey and jordan and seen are in desperate
situations. it is pitiful to see what some the conditions that people are living in just to get away from the barrel bombing that's been taking place. that's why i've been so upset tot we haven't done more stop the barrel bombing in the places that these people are out from.en at the same time, let's face it. our number one responsibility here is security. you know, there are legitimate concerns. do think that by this evening there are going to be answers to questions about whether the same individuals that were involved operations in syria -- me in paris -- some of them were french citizens, obviously. way to think that under normal circumstances they our toave traveled country. we want the answers. i think what you are saying is is a round about of all of
the issues. a concern by -- i will say both sides of the aisle that we have answers to those. we understand that. certainly again that the american people understand how these processes work. us details about the concerns of the visa waiver program? yourfew more details about concerns about the visa waiver program? >> i think again the concerns the lack of understanding. so the concerns are a lack of understanding. meaning that i think, you know, what's happened as a result of when you realize again some of the people who conducted this heinous activity in paris were french citizens. does that mean exactly? do we have systems in place that travellike that cannot to the united states? the answer to that right now.
sense is some of that was covered at the briefing will be sure they canake answer the questions. >> senator, you had a chance to review the legislation with the house. with thehare those desire for a short-term act? so, you know, we did read it last night. i met with my staff this morning. thates appear to me speaker ryan is attempting to hit the sweet spot. thether words to not stop intake of refugees but to have that, in fact, the program has integrity. again i think tonight because we from theave witnesses fbi and the fbi seems to be the agency that their leader have expressed the greatest concern of people that i heard.
i think tonight there will be hopefully some clarification on whether something like what the house is proposing is something that can actually work. >> what did you discuss beyond refugees? refugees.t of the senator corker: questions like the type of explosive utilizeed. was is it the type that would have goingetected if you will through our own systems here? -- yet noe's no clarification. materialsjust the that we're all reading public and public materials. size.s the class we understand the explosive verye may have been very, small. so do we have, in fact, you
know, the process that you are with that. those people and those types of people were knocked in this year. a homelandmore of security type issue. certainly the type of issue that the meeting.p in let me say this, a big part of on meeting also focused russia. you know, specific activities that russia is involved in. where that's coming from and things like that. russianomb on the plane. >> yeah, i'm sorry. i apologize. i just left the briefing. know i'm speaking with extreme consciousness here but relative to the russian plane that was down. >> is there going to be opportunity for cooperation with russia? corker: i hope that. i think again the one issue -- this is almost becoming a cliche, i don't know. the one issue that would prevent further cooperation is not to an agreement at some
point on the future of the assad. you look at the driving elements relative to isis syria, you know, assad is one of those. withreally been a deal isis or daesh or whatever you wish to call them. deal with that issue. it is just fundamental to syria of isis in the first place. appearsoping that -- it to me that as we -- as you read the details of some of the conversations that are taking place, what we're trying to do is sort of narrow the gap over time. it is my hope that at some point fully onose the gap that particular issue. it is the one that, i think, from being able to isis.ully cooperate with >> we have concerns about the intelligence -- saytor corker: let me
this. i want to add when you see much of the activity killing folks our friends that are not part of isis in the actions, you know, we know what they are doing. what they are doing. it doesn't speak to the fact yet they are really committed to being full partners in isis. if they are really committed to full partners from isis, they have to understand that again, is a big part of the motivation around isis in the first place. obviously, you know, a rational response could be to deal with the motivation -- one of the motivations that's causing isis to do what he's doing. they were attacked as well. senator corker: they were. goalsave conflicting here. where we don't. 1) they haveal is conflicting goals because of assadinterest in themselves. yup. states persian
authorities had thought the master mind of the attack had been in syria. now it turns out he's in paris. does that to you raise concerns levelthe quality and the of intelligence that had been ascertained about the attack initially? corker: look, i don't know that i can speak fully to that wehe intelligence have. i don't sit on that committee. i think there will be a much readout this evening regarding that. look, i -- i don't want to look in the rearview mirror too much. was so discouraged by the fact hamper theld try to nsa's ability to have helpful to usat's in this regard. i realize you are not speaking nsa here. i think that, you know, we have think further.
we have the event that happened that the nsa was doing things the they were not doing, by way. somehow we ended up, you know, a legislation that in my opinion took us in the wrote direction relative to the very essence of what it going to save us from these kinds of things. that's not just vetting people were they come to the country, but the intelligence community having the tools, appropriate respecting civil rights, to deal with it. speakt know that i can fully to the french intelligence. >> senator, the president was very critical of the critics here on the hill, saying they were dealing with concerns about widows and orphans. i wonder as you are grappling with the issues here on the -- senatorthat corker: i wish -- it is interesting. we had a briefer inside that was
sort of conducting themselves in manner.r it is just -- i tried to explain know, people in america are busy. they want to raise their families. have responsibilities. they are busy. they just want to know that they are safe. speak down to someone because they have a question and concern to say they are irrational or who we areunderstand as a nation or or something like that, it doesn't help. i mean it hurts. what would help, and i think this is something that the meetingl method in the we just had, is on both sides of the aisle, i might add, is that needs to explain clearly to the american people the processes that we go through s.fore we admit refugee
to brow the people because they are concerned about their kids a productive process. them though because you are able to lay out all of the details that we go through the vetting process and have the fbi agree. obviously that's a very respected entity in our country. that would be helpful. that goes back to my responses in the hallway. incumbent. it is incumbent upon the withistration to -- clarity, ensure that the american people and all of us -- just to be candid, i i spent a lot of time with folks 30 days ago the issue. athink that most senators --
handful or less -- even understood until this morning the processes that we go through. so it is incumbent upon the assure people to and to assure all of us that we have systems in place to keep americans safe. to go. thank you. >> the u.s. house returns at 9:30 a.m. eastern to take up legislation that adds strict refugees fromr syrian seeking asylum. it could require new security checks and investigations into applicant by the intelligence community. >> coming up, ashton carter on meanttacks and what they for security. david cameron speaks to the
attacks andbout the the local impact on the security. and then a statement from francois hollande on his response to the terrorists attacks. the next "washington journal" gary peters of michigan, a remember of the security and governmental affairs security on isis.s. and against a look at prime minister change kirtman. "washington journal" live every at 7:00 a.m. eastern. you can join the conversation with your calls and comments on twitter.and >> thursday officials from the department testified about syrian refugees seeking asylum the u.s. and security concerns in the wake of the terrorists attacks. we'll be live at a house
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carter, spoke at the wall street ceo council meeting on tuesday. topics includes the terrorist attacks in paris, the involvement to defeat isis, the russian,fugee crisis, and china. this is 45 minutes. [applause] secretary formr. being here. busy day, i can only assume. mr. secretary: it was, indeed. >> you know, i would say at the outset that secretary carter comes to his job well equipped. was deputy secretary of defense. before that he was undersecretary of defense. before that he was assistant secretary of defense. we hadportantly for me, lunch together after you left secretary ofdeputy defense. mr. secretary: uh-huh. to me.as encouraging
you are a physicist by training. you lead me to believe you can a degree in physics and have a productive job. son has is degree in physics. i'm grateful for that. whatever we were going to talk a week ago, i changed it because of what happened in paris. i'm curious of what you have about isis in the last three or four days that you didn't know exists. secretary: i wouldn't say anything was surprises to me. this is an enemy that needs to defeated. will be defeated. opposite ofr the everything that we stand for in for.ized people stand obviously i'm sad that it happened. that's a terrible tragedy for the french people. has had the effect of galvanizing our cooperation with france. that's one of the things that over then doing
weekend, strengthening our intelligence cooperation with them. took some strikes last night. they will take some strikes again this morning. europeanat other nations in the same light. this now we've been at for a year. we're looking to do more. we're looking for every opportunity that we can to get and go at isil. know, need others to, you -- we can help those who help themselves. we need others to get in the game as well. that this tragedy has the effect of galvanizing others galvanized the french and really throughout europe. beenber europe has participating in part in isil.ions against not notably. so far.them in syria also of course separately but judgment not in my spending enough in general on their defense.
that's important. they need to get in the game also. they share civilized values with us. a history with us. they need to get in the game protecting our people from this of thing. surprised. we're determined we defeat isil. will. gerald: there's been a change in the french attitude and strategy in dealing with the threat. the u.s.anged in hours? in the last 72 how has this changed what we're going to do? mr. secretary: it is easier to what's changed in the last several weeks. this isn't the change of mind or heart. we're looking for opportunities. examples,you some just in the last few weeks we john.hadi their nest,ead of their metastasized nest in libya. we started some sustained strikes on oil infrastructure which is one of the ways they andrevenues in both syria
iraq. and aidingtifying able and capable and motivated ground force there is. this is an important point, itald, because the -- if were just us versus isil, we could defeat them. learnedlem is as we've in iraq previously and in afghanistan is sustaining the defeat. for that purpose, we need ed localand motivate forces who can keep the place running without extremeism after isil has been defeated. now they are hard to come by in syria and iraq. do exist. in iraq we have the kurds in the north who have been very effective. we've been helping them. there are elements of the iraq security forces, the counterterrorism forces, certain elements of the iraqi army that are affected. sunnies in thegh fight there over in syria. warously there's a civil
going on. there are syrians there, some arabs, in the south, some along jordanian border. in all of the places, we are enables them. they are making progress. you an example, the road that connects mosul over in and raqqa in syria for those who know the geography, isils the heart of representatively in the two key countries. with our help, some kurdish forces have managed to seize that road. an important piece of strategic geography. in syria.r we are aiding some forces that are heading toward rac request. raqqa. our intelligence gets better. just in the last -- you'll see us continue to do this. opportunityiesor
to get at them. gerald: defeating them means on the ground. the forces that you have seem weak. the iraq armies has been disappointed. the kurds, while very effective, it creates problems for others andhe region, including -- especially the turks. malicious shas look like the stalk forces. create a ground force of sunnies who have a stake and or isilely defeat isil and keep them down in the long run? groundo you get that force? mr. secretary: this is one of the sad realities in iraq and syria. to find that you would like. the situations have similarities. iraq still remains an integral state. a multi-sectarian.
we are supporting prime minister baddy in his efforts. it keeps them in the phrase he uses decentralized simply the alternative is sectarian war. path leads.e that said that prime minister abadi, i've spoken to him a trying to does, is the right thing. bad tag is a complicated place. particular, we have gotten all of the authorizations for sunni force that is we need. isil the sunni area where is. those communities and those people need to decide to participate in the fight and
territory. we can enable them and help them. they need the will to fight and the capability -- the will we can embolden them, but we can't create will. we can create the capability and the conditions under which they succeed. we can't substitute for that. we know otherwise we'll be there forever. we need to -- we need to enable them. that's the strategy. isiltrategy is to destroy in its hat of iraq and syria protecting our people and protecting our borders and working their finances and fighters, lone wolves, the whole deal. metastasizes it worldwide, including in our own country. ithave to not only destroy in its heart which we must do, but notecessary sufficient. we need to do everything around the world also. russians are-- the
obviously engaged in syria has we are. for what seemed to be a dramatically different purpose. they are engaged to protect the assad regime and reserve it. defeat isis and get rid of assad. how do we come in the midst of the threat? secretary: they've made a mistake. i've told it very clearly to my and the counterpart. their strategy is doomed to fail has the effect as you said supporting assad. warh fuels the very civil that produces the extremeism which may rightly fear. i mean they rightly fear. history in the caucuses and czechens. form ofe tasted the terrorists. they said they are going to come in to fight isil. they did. what
it is possible, just possible, sure, the not secretary of state is discussing this with them that they can get side of things here which is promoting a political transition in assad and -- in syria which has to include some of the very people they started to bomb when they came in. these people who have to be part of the opposition have to be the future of syria. then it is fine if they get in the game. they came in saying they were fight.o that's not what they do. they fought moderate opposition. off.were way way off track. basically a strategic error on their part. we could not associate ourselves with that. which is why we didn't cooperate coordinate with an accept dealing with making sure they incidents in the because they syria were wrong headed and backwards approaching it.
view,: from our point of can we put up with assad in order to defeat the islamic state? mr. secretary: there has to be a transition. assad receding. he has to be willing enough to slogging itw, keep out here and slaughtering people and creating refugees and all of stuff. there to be a -- enough of the structures of the that the place isn't a complete mess at the end of the civil war. we want something of the to tedirt of syria here. that's important. who can pursue him to go? russians wouldhe be hell -- helpful. they get on the right side of
this, it would be trying to move aside andto keep the structures of the state moderate move the opposition in to that and try to put some decent -- decency back the nest in syria. that's the path we're behind. we hope since they have such influence, they will use it to good. commitment toe assad or the regime? syria theyvision the are happy about? mr. secretary: they say they don't have a commitment to him personally. they keep the structures of the state as they way they put it going. if their actions match those words, then that would be something we could associate ourselves with. they need to see they are on the theg side of things, get on right side -- because they could persuadive with assad.
they and the iranians have the most influence. if you gauge for us, could, the level and the trajectory of the islamic state here.ist threat what we saw in paris raises a whole new set of concerns, not for people in europe, but for people in the u.s. what's your own view of the trajectory of the threat? well, we've been concerned about it since it started last summer. they say from the aspiration to come here. is not what ity is in europe. there isn't that -- that much geographically. we don't have some of the population that has long-standing terrorists inclinations that are in the some of the european countries.
so the most -- it is a very serious matter for me. there were six of our service killed.that were who did that? kid who's born there.ooga and born he went on the losers -- lost kids, went on the internet, got -- bought a firearm, went out, and killed people. now we can't have that. some of that is just protecting and the find of protection that you do against people all the time anyway. here you have a particular cause. we need to show that's not a
successful cause. civilized people are determined to defeat us. talkingtime, i've been a lot about what we do in syria and iraq. this is the time that people are they need to be on defeating isil. a multi-pronged thing. we also have to do the and intelligence work that i know has been controversial. we're trying to protect our country and protect our people. the use of social media by the guys and use of encryption, we need to find a way that's consistent with being free and allowsternet, but also us in the and the public officials to protect our people. and watch ourp borders. fighter flow. we have to pay attention to the financing. get others around the word. there are guys in southeast asia. southeast asia.
not many. ther little nests of metastasis of this as well as the apparent tumor, syria and iraq. we have to do all of that. i guess the border question, if you rise above the nowils, where something is going to chance not just in the way france is approaching this, the way the u.s. is approaching it. are we on a path to do more of the same? an inclination to do something more and different? >> no. dotainly an inclination to more and consistent with the strategy that i described which day, therend of the have to be people in syria and iraq that are keeping a lid on won. the war is we're looking for new ways of doing things all the time. i -- an example of -- in a detail on this. were going after
oil infrastructure there. well, one of the -- we were ways of doing that. we get better and better at this all the time. way for twine a clever me. mr. secretary: be careful. i don't want the guys to know what's going on. -- youhinking -- well, know, i think jihadi john hisably overestimated safety. seems so. put thattary: let me t that way. gerald: the guys driving the oil trucks over the weekend. secretary: yes. that was an example i loathe to use. we want to do it again. -- i'mhinking -- this is just one guy. i got 2.8 million people who are there for a reason.
they care about the mission. particularly those who just popped. like i was just telling gerald name andtunity to recommend to the president five new joint chiefs since i've been secretary of defense. bench is amazing. didn't get to the top like none of you did without ability. they are tremendous experience, tremendous ability there. if you think back, you know, think of the wars in iraq and afghanistan, i know people there. was all the time i've been there all in for them. right? we have people fighting there. have people. i'm all in. thei got to tell you ingenuity of the people in those -- those were new kinds of war and the counterinsurgency thing. hise's a captain, a kid in
20's running a town sophisticated politically, economic, social issues as well military craft and applying his military craft in a form,hin an art counterinsurgency which is different from all of the other kinds of military more traditional military things which they are good at as well. i'm just so proud of them. think -- there's no other military in the whole world that as ours is. and so they are going to adapt also to the isil thing. adapting to everything else going on. ukraine.ctivity in asia pacific. we've got lots of things to do. is a pretty capable crowd. ask one finale question on the isis/isil space. wonder when you -- in net where we underestimated the
b)ch and ability of isis and on whether they are better at maybe wedetection than thought. mr. secretary: there's no question about the second part. as far as the first part is concerned, they represent a new phenomenon. i'm not the first one to say this. was the first internet terrorist group. social media first internet group. so just like, you know, people are amazed at how things go virus and craze has happened and so forth. then the forests space. veryis turned out to be a ugly capability for people like this to have. now we're trying to climb on top that in every way that we can. there's no question that it represents a new phenomenon. organized, civilized, society has to figure out how to from this kind of stuff. is that a work in progress?
you bet it is. we'll do it. new you know, that is a phenomenon. gerald: you mentioned asia. i wanted to pivot a bit to china. you've spent more time than most about the issue in the last couple of months. in particular the department of decided in recent chinese challenge the claim to the artificial islands it has created in the south of china sea. which you did by running ships bewhat they claim to territorial waters. i wonder since you did that if in have detected any change chinese behavior or any change in the kind of dialogue, if that's the right word that you have, the chinese on the subject. did andetary: what we we'll continue to do isn't new at all. we have been sailing the united navy in the south china sea for decades and decades and decades.
so we did that. we're going to continue to do that. noting that?y even they are not noticing it because the united states is doing anything new. they are noticing because china is doing something new. china is making extravagant plans. they are not the only ones who are doing that. are other claimants as well. trying to settle those claims not by talking about them, but going out to redredging them and building airstrips on top. a lot ofgotten attention. and in turn has caused people to notice we're still doing what we've been doing. i want to be clear, you called it a challenge. we're doing what we've been seven years. why is that important? thee been talking about middle east and -- so the middle east is in the newspapers every day. the asia pacific where half of humanity live and half of the economic activity which is far --e cons sensible
consequential for america's where most of the growth theets for all of businesses in the room will reside. hugely consequential. god there isn't conflict there. why is that? the single most influential factor financial seven decades has been the pivot role of the power.n military there's no nato. there's nothing that keeps the peace. the stabilizing presence of the u.s. military forces. we aim to keep that going. now if the chinese think about will the chinese do think about it. they say that's the area they've been able to do their thing. southinese miracle and
korean and taiwan and now india and china. of that. in fair system.s to be a we talk about something called the balance. toething we can begin rethink where we put our defense resources that we make sure resourcesing enough in the region to keep a good thing going out there. that's what we're doing. our's the meaning of presence. gerald: if the chinese benefit atmosphere of stability that you just referred to, why do they seem to eager to challenge it in various ways right now? contradiction there? mr. secretary: there's no question about it. one of the people who believe that the conflict
is likely something desirable. peace is not a birthright. that are two thoughts co-exist. one, things have been pretty good for us. we've been able to develop in a remarkable way. nobody isanybody -- molested them as they've done of that's a pretty good deal. that's one thought. we've beenhought is down for hundreds of years. now it is our time to rise and sign. that kind of hubris is dangerous. if that, you know, gets out of hand so to speak, it will lead
a direction that's not good obviously for the region. will check that. but also it is not good for china in the long run. think that's the dominant trend. it is there. is to -- as far as china is concerned, is to strand.e the better but -- this is important. china is not only audience here. everybody else lived there. i just came back from the region. in a meeting with everybody. chinese behavior is having the effect of driving everybody to seek more relationship with the othermilitary and security relation. we have incredibly strong allies out there. all getting stronger. japan, south korea, the australia,, thailand, we're doing more with malaysia.
i was out with the malaysian defense minister. hyfongonths ago i was in hear bonn. that's vietnam. single thing that's galvanizing the drive to us is china'sern about future. that's not smart. divide in toing to our camps and their camps. that's not our policy. inclusive one. gerald: go back to the starting the south china sea in the islands there. in a way i think what you are saying is that the challenge -- my word and not yours. i accept that. the action that you took seems to have not produced a response from the chinese. response; right? see.ecretary: we'll
again that's not the only audience. it is everybody else as well. that -- not only i think, and i experience the andng and growing desire the secretary. they come to me all the time. do you exercise and train with us? we buy your equipment? can we send people to your economies? that's an enormous demand signal out there for the -- what provided for 70 years. the know that's what's kept lid on in an area where the wounds of world war ii never heeled. animosities. you don't have to scratch very hard for -- not just between and other countries. among our friends and allies, it is no secret, for example, that things have been tense over time allies and korean japanese allies. allies.e both our
the region is filled with the claims. south china sea is just one. gerald: let me touch on a couple more areas. then i want to leave time for questions from the audience. we were talking about russia and president putin in the syrian context. more broadly, you have a president in russia now embarked on a strategy that clearly the u.s. government is unhappy with in syria. factory in ukraine has been a continuing problem for a couple of years. there'sa sense that -- a challenge under way. part of its political and part of sec. carter: well, we've got to respond to it. and we are. you know, this is something that for a quarter century we had not -- since the cold war ended -- been as concerned about. so we are making adjustments in our own investments and our own posture, to take into account
russian moves, and make sure we stay ahead. and we're also working with nato to strengthen nato's posture. and that involves a number of things. we're positioning heavy equipment in nato allies, working on new schemes of defense, both of territory and against the little green men phenomenon, so-called "hybrid warfare." and i think you've used that phrase here. it's not just the old fulda gap, for those who remember the cold war issue of tanks crossing over. it's the little green men phenomenon, as well. we need to fortify our european allies. and this is a new playbook. this isn't the fulda gap of old. this is a new playbook. and it's to maintain peace and stability in europe. mr