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phone, on facebook, and on twitter. >> one month before the new hampshire primary, a new pile shows with skin candidate donald trump increasing his polls. we have chuck murray with us. patrick murray with us. patrick: since there is very little chance right now for donald trump to lose his lead. hampshire'sw notorious reputation for making up his mind at the last minute, he is just too far ahead to not come into first place.
the real fight is for second place. it is a multi-candidate fight. we have got john kasich and marco rubio and chris christie all vying. ted cruz. jeb bush is fading away. these last few weeks will be really important because the expectation is that trump is going to win, ted cruz will take the conservative vote which will put them in second life third place and will be the one on top? >> you mentioned that jeb bush 4%, soator rand paul at both candidates have eventually not moved in the last few weeks. numbere have seen bush's in particular go down. little by little, he is not getting voters.
bush is the only one in the field who has that negative. it looks like there's not room for another bush in the white house as far as the voters are concerned. >> are these voters luck in? is there a sense they could switch their decision or change their mind before the primary? rick: only one third of new hampshire voters are actually locked in with no way of changing their mind. the other say they are pretty might not.hey others are just floating around from candidate to candidate.
some could change their mind if they really shake up the race. probably not shake it up enough first donald trump off of place because namely, when we ask people will if they are supporting trump they say, yes, not moving away from it. one toers, moving from another. but there is that establishment lead. especially in the case of chris christie and marco rubio, we will see movement from one candidate to another and back again. in november you conducted a poll and 6% of new hampshire voters favored ben carson, now down to 3%, so he is seen in precipitous decline. patrick: we really are not talking about ben carson anymore. he was an outside candidate. rightuz owns that group
now. >> what about carly fiorina and governor chris christie? : carly fiorina, after the initial showing, never caught higher. she was in the low single digits. as christie is interesting because there has been indication he was searching and new hampshire a few weeks back, right before christmas. -- is coming out in the last few days suggest that is tampering down a little bit. while chris christie has probably spent more days in new hampshire than any other candidates working town halls and doing all of that, it is that anyone has paid attention to him and thated bringing up things have dug him in his home state
of new jersey but largely gone unnoticed. now they are getting noticed and it is having a little bit of an impact. you walk uscan through the methodology, how many people you questioned and the margin of error. : we have 414 likely republican voters. a very interesting process. independents can register the same day. we know they allow this before vote, so we include people from the voter rolls right now are participants and some who have not yet gone out to vote. at them all together into get a margin of error of about 5.8%. >> the lead for donald trump continues to grow. chuck murray is the poster for murray is thek pollster for that.
obama prepared his state of the union address, he released this video on twitter. : i keep thinking of the road we have traveled together for the past seven years. that is what makes america right . our ability to come together as one american family and pull ourselves closer to the america we believe in. to see sometimes in the day-to-day of washington. but it is what i want to focus on in this state of the union address. announcer: c-span's coverage starts tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern with betty and james looking back at the history of the presidential annual message and what to expect this year. p.m., theat 9:00 president's speech. your reaction by facebook,
phone, tweets, and the e-mail as well as those of members of congress on c-span, c-span radio, and c-span. or. the address and 11:00publican response at p.m. and we will give for members of congress in statuary hall about their thoughts on the president's address. >> new jersey governor and presidential candidate chris christie delivers the new jersey state of the state address today live at 3:00 p.m. eastern on c-span three. and meansouse race committee kevin brady with correspondent of been white. chairman brady talks about his plans for tax reform and what he sees as plants and priorities
for congress in the next president. this is 40 minutes. [applause] thank you. >> thank you for joining us. we appreciate this as we start this new session of congress. we will start out with the broad picture. president obama will deliver the union address to the nation tomorrow night. he said it was a nontraditional address. we don't expect powerful proposals to go before congress. he will talk about his vision for the country, may be reviewed the past a little bit. is there anything you are looking for or hope to hear from him? are there any things he could say legislatively that you might be able to work together on during 2016? the general consensus is, nothing comes from capitol hill 2016. purely a political year. what you say?
are there exceptions to that? >> i am a texan fan. we had a really rough -- they will be back for next year, count on it. the president has kind of a clear choice here. he can continue with items that have been so divisive for this country, or he can lay out a clear vision for where the country can be in this economy. there are some questions, but the president inherited a very tough economy. here we are 6.5 years after the recovery began and we are still holding out breaths month after month for the jobs report. we can do far better than what -- where we are at. i'm ready to see this president layout where he can work with republicans on fixing this. it is too costly, too complex, basically unfair. my see him take some stems regarding lowering the red tape.
the regulatory barriers, because it really is the reason main street is not hiring today. i would like to see him work with us on welfare reform because we know we can get more people back into some real opportunities. and again, issues like trade. why can't we build more here and sell around the world? i think there is common ground there. i expect him to talk about the transpacific partnership. those are areas i am convinced we could work well together on. >> we will get into the interest rate more in-depth and a little bit. let's talk about the tax reform agenda. the consensus also is it would be a very difficult year to get any comprehensive tax reform package done. do you plan to introduce a comprehensive tax bill in this next session of congress? kevin brady: the answer is, it
depends. [laughter] kevin brady: we are not going to have five people sit in a room and decide our tax reform. it will be created from the ground up during our conference next week. this week, we are going to lay out our principal audit. we are coming off very strong momentum by this tax bill. that was a critical moment. going forward there has been , very good work done, going forward. we're going to continue that work with paul ryan. i intend to have a vote on international tax reform this year in the ways and means committee. we will lay the foundation for what i call a tax bill built for growth. billed for america's economic
growth. i am often asked what is your , tax plan? i like to make the case that there are several ways we can get to, several paths to get to a tax code built for growth. i know what i want us to go and where i think our conference house republicans want to go. we want a fair and simpler tax code. we are going to have to close detection loopholes so we can lower the rates for everybody. we need to make sure that small businesses do not pay more than large businesses. as many do today. i want all businesses, no matter how large or small they are, to compete and win. and when they do, i want them to bring those profits home to reinvest in america. jobs, and it new facilities. the final principle for the tax code is that we are not bailing out washington's spending problem. we are creating a tax code that actually grows the economy. that alone, will help us. >> you jumped into my next question, which was the
international tax reform. you said you would introduce a bill on that. do you have a positive outlook that you can get bipartisan support for the tax reform? do you think it can get through the house, senate, and be signed by the president in 2016? brady: i am actually optimistic that we can do this. i know it is a very complex political environment, but i am also optimistic that we can fix this overall tax code. it will take a new republican president to get that done, but this year we have a very important step. we are being forced to move overseas, merge, acquire and move headquarters overseas. plus, internationally this global effort to capture profits, most of them american profits. it is urgent we move forward. having a system that lowers the gate and allows us profits to go back to the united states is critical. in earlier drafts from the ways and means committee -- those are in the right ballpark for rates. the fact that you have democrats like senator schumer that are willing and eager to sit down and work with republicans. we are very interested in fixing this. in the overall tax reform, if we can take a major step this year, it's not only sends the signal that we are dead serious about
competing again, but i think it allows us to focus in 2017 on the rates and the design. tax reform is tough, there is no question about it. taking it step by step could get us to a pretty good place. ben white: i am assuming you were hoping for a permanent change. not a single one-off repatriation that we have seen in the past.
tell me a little bit more about your vision for that, how to get that money on a permanent basis. rep. brady: you are right in the first part. we do not need just a one-year tax. what we did in 2004-2005, in a sense, the company brought back $300 billion in a very short time. that is not what we want to do. we want a permanent change. if it makes economic sense. and oftentimes, they do. looking at drafts that we have laid out, now i think in four years, and the feedback we would get an 8.3% for those profits. a dual rate.
i think it is important. i think we are right in the ballpark, as i said, allowing them to be able to count on that long-term and having plenty of time to be able to pay that toll coming back, i think is important. i think i am convinced if we start with trying to figure out where to spend the money, rather than how we get the policy right, we are making a mistake. let us get to the policy right. from a jobs-perspective it will send the signal to ceos and businesses that they can safely invest in the u.s., or wherever it is around the world. knowing they can ring those dollars home. ben white: if you were going to allow these profits to be brought back to the u.s. that certain amounts would have to be dedicated to infrastructure, building, hiring. is there any common ground between republicans and democrats about requirements that would be put on those overseas profits? rep. brady: great question.
the driver to date has been a one-off five or six year transition. my thinking is that no one has -- nobody has me yet convinced me a dollar stranded overseas is better than a dollar brought back to the u.s. for any reason. secondly, if i had my druthers, we would dedicate any revenue to lower rates in a comprehensive tax bill. i actually think using those dollars below the rate has become more competitive in a 2017 effort. that is the area i would most like to be focused on. ben white: let's go back to the moment you were talking about. the discussion of using repatriated tax revenue for the government to fund the highway bill, as opposed to the direction that ultimately,
congress decided to go. how close was that to a reality? rep. brady: speaker ryan was the one leading the negotiations and it seemed to me that he was very encouraged about the policy there. there was a lot of agreement between republicans and democrats on that policy. the other discussion there was the innovation bond, really trying to prevent america from being isolated. the technology and pharmaceutical companies were not basically forced away from investment in the united states. that took a lot of time in those discussions as well. so i would say the short answer to your question is, they made a lot of progress in those negotiations and discussions. it is worth picking up where they were at and continuing this to see if we cannot find some bipartisan agreement. ben white: i want to come back
to those tax related issues. but, trade is obviously, a huge issue for you. i want to bring in doug palmer team to askr trade questions about that. [indiscernible] rep. brady: how would you gauge the prospects for ttp and what does president obama need to do to get republican support for the agreement? -- rep. brady: i think passing that agreement is difficult, but how would you gauge the prospects for ttp and what does president obama need to do to get republican support for the agreement? rep. brady: i think passing that agreement is difficult, but doable, doug. it is doable because the economic value of moving in to asia-pacific area under our trade rules are critically
important, with half of the world's middle-class customers being in that region. it is like when you ask a bank robber, why are you robbing banks? he says, that is where the money is at. now, there are some challenges. the white house made some solid decisions that have been costing them votes on both sides of the aisle. the key is first, taking up this agreement and the most open and transparent process that has ever occurred. we can thank those who passed the trade promotion authority bill for laying out that agenda. we will exceed those requirements for openness and deliberations going forward. the other part of that is building support in the areas from biologics to the tobacco areas and others. making sure the united states is working with those members of
congress on both sides of the aisle to build support. and so from a timing standpoint, my thinking is let the substance and the support of the agreement drive the timing. so we neither hasten it or delay , it. but we just keep building support going forward. doug: realizing what you just said, looking at the congressional calendar this year, there is not a very long summer session. the best next opportunity seems to be after the lame duck session. do you think this is something that could be done before the summer break? rep. brady: it all depends on how well support continues to grow. i think there is a good solid base of support right now. i think there is a good solid base of support. there is a lot of work to do. and theiness community,
agriculture community and the business community has been telling the white house it is critically important in a serious way. i have seen signs of that occurring, by the way. i think the timing is to be determined. based on the support. ben white: timing to be determined is something i have heard a few times in the past regarding ttp. i want to delve into that a little bit. the document is now available. you can review the entire thing now. are you happy with it in its current form? or are there specific things you think need to be changed, or should it be signed as it is now by the administration? should we move forward with that document? rep. brady: there are areas that i have concerns about and while we all follow different parts of those agreements to see the impact economically on our state or region, like other members i look at the architecture of an agreement. so, what does it how does it , deal with investor state relations? how does a deal with labor and
environmental issues? sword of state-owned enterprises. this architecture will continue through the next agreement. i have concerns i have labeled out to you. nonetheless, you have to look at the agreement in its entirety and find ways to improve the areas that need improving, and then bring it to the floor. i think it is important for us to have a vote and work out these differences because this is really the first 21st century trade agreement. i know this phrase gets thrown out there a lot, but in the past trade agreements -- and i think i have been involved in 12-14, in some way. most trade agreements have been country to country or in central america's case, six countries negotiating amongst themselves. this is designed more like a plug and play, where the standards have been set.
so future markets will want to hit those standards and they will have the opportunity to plug into it without renegotiating everything. we still need approval, but that adds a great deal of value to this agreement that has not existed. it is important we keep that in mind as we go forward. ben white: i want to pat myself on the back. we have been doing this for 15-20 minutes and i have not yet mentioned donald trump. i am going to mention him now. : don't feel compelled. but you can mention him if you want. ben white: i do want to deal with the political environment you have been dealing with and trying to get ttp approved in an environment where you have donald trump against it, ted cruz against it, hillary clinton has come out against it. for a variety of different reasons. trump says of them, china will come in afterwards and screw everybody over. i know the whole idea is they
will eventually become party to it when they see the ground rules have been set in ttp. but how do you do the education , job among -- that is just the republican base, but the broader electorate is in the mood not to sign big trade agreements. i mean, you are going to have a political environment where big trade deals are not particularly popular, not being endorsed among the candidates. you have others like rubio and bush who are more pro-free trade, and tend to to be in favor of tpp, but they are not leading. they are not winning. how do you overcome that? rep. brady: it is counterintuitive. when the economy is not doing well, we are missing 6 million jobs. families are missing $1000 a month. the family paycheck ought to be back by now. there are many people concerned about the economy.
in those cases, trade is normally a tougher sell, but i think quite frankly, it helps us in the sense we have local companies who want to compete around the world and go after those customers and create those jobs. as a result, tpp is so , again, if they will address those problems areas, it has the potential to be very beneficial for job creation in local districts. the other thing is again, i am most familiar with republicans and conservatives. for us, our core beliefs are a strong national sense, keeping communities and family safe, less government taxes so you have more control of your life, and third, the economic freedom to trade. to buy and sell freely over the world with as little government interference as possible.
i think at the end of the day, our republican nominee will embrace those values. as we break down tpp and allow the public to see it and lawmakers to examine it, we will make a course going forward. we still have some work to do, but at the end of the day, if they were to absolve the issues that are outstanding, there is extreme value. ben white: because you brought him up, i will just ask -- what do you make of the fact that donald trump continues to lead by a very wide margin for the republican nomination?
it is always been in the media that there would be a peek for demo trump and then a recession. that has not happened. he could move on to rack up a lot of delegates. what do you make of that? is he somebody you could support as a nominee? rep. brady: what is the next question? [applause] rep. brady: no, it is a great question. it is such an uncertain environment, political environment. people have a lot of frustration with government, that they are not solving real problems. too many have given up hope that we will do things like fix this broken tax code and tell people get back to work. it is just manifesting itself in mr. trump. this selection though, has a long way to go. i have a lot of faith in voters going forward in these primaries. whether it is mr. trump or others, the cream will rise to the top and coalesce behind a candidate. i am hopeful that we are able to coalesce sooner rather than later, as primary voters. we will see where it goes. ben white: i think i heard an
answer about the question regarding donald trump. rep. brady: the answer is yes. ben white: you would support him. excuse me for not having done the research, but have you picked a candidate? rep. brady: i have not. i have not been in a primary in the 18 years. ben white: i want to go back to tax issues with of the ways and means committee and talk about the dynamic there. you have paul ryan. he was very happy with that job and wanted to stay with that job. i will read you this quote from him from a breakfast i did with him last year. about how dedicated he was to seeing tax reform through.
circumstances changed and he was called upon by his party to take over the speakership. be with guiding tax reform? what is your relationship like with him, or is he so occupied with the leadership of the house that he would not be particularly, heavily involved? how does paul ryan play in the house ways and means committee now? rep. brady: it is important to have a chairman so knowledgeable about these issues. i think it is a benefit across the board. he clearly knows the issues, but paul ryan is a generational change in the speaker's office. he sees things differently and so, he continues to push power back to our ranking members into the committees. i expect him to do the same thing in ways and means. he is the coach of the conference across all of these different issues and topics. i see myself as quarterback of the ways and means committee. our job is to move the ball down the field and the priorities he has laid out for 2016 -- the top
five priorities, the ways and means committee is responsible mainly for four of them. and so in tax, trade, welfare reform, replacing the affordable care act -- we have a lot of work to do. ben white: i hope you will move the ball down the field, better than the texans did in the playoff. rep. brady: you had to go there didn't you? ben white: yes, i am sorry. i have foot fall on the brain. i apologize for my foot all references. -- football on the brain.
i apologize for my football references. i asked paul ryan whether he would consider running for president himself. he had family reasons for not wanting to do that, he also said he thought he had four of a chance to really change the economic dynamic in the united states through the ways and means committee. he said, i can make a huge difference for the country. these issues all go through the ways and means committee. they originate in the ways and means committee. i want to be a good husband and father. he basically said the ways and means committee is perhaps, the most powerful engine to affect economic change. do you approach the job with the same idea? rep. brady: i do and to be honest, i am still pinching myself. i love -- we all came to congress to do big things. you never come here to do small things. the ways and means committee is all about the big issues. fundamentally changes the course of the country. if you think about creating a tax code built for growth, if you think about saving social security and medicare -- medicare, especially.
maybe the 8000-and guerrilla in our budget that has to be addressed. the 800-lb., maybe the gorilla in our budget that has to be addressed. our budget has to be addressed for medicare. congress took a big step forward last year in solving the way we pay our local doctors going forward. that billl had a lot of momentum. if you look at trade and a number of other issues, even have a lot of impact. i say this as someone -- he and i came into the other, sat next to each other, worked our way up, and the hopes of someday being able to lead real change with a positive agenda. the chance to work with my friend to do that is as good as it gets. ben white: back to the overall political environment question. last time you mentioned how hard it was to do tax reform. it is very hard and once you talk about closing loopholes, they all of a sudden become, not loopholes. but things that people like very
much, the mortgage deduction, powerful lobbies he find them. less time tax reform was passed was 19 86. nothing close to what congress is like now and the campaign trail is like now. it is hard for some people to imagine a scenario under which you could rewrite the entire tax code without losing a bunch of republicans and democrats. they say these corporate tax reforms would be giveaways too big companies. have you see the environment developing in a way that there is not this poisonous, political environment that would make a tax reform bill possible? rep. brady: if you look at the elements that made the 1986 reform work, it was a country that had had it up to here. they knew the tax could was unfair. they blamed other people for getting breaks, but not them. it was too complex for the families and the businesses to handle and address. sounds very familiar. secondly, presidential
leadership is so critical and i am really encouraged by a republican candidates for president. all of whom have laid out very serious tax reform proposals. some of them are breaking ground and going places republicans have not gone before. i think that tells you they are serious about leading on the issue. and what they are hearing from the american public, or they would not be laying out that agenda, they are hearing that people are ready to tackle this issue. in fact, i think the biggest challenge we have got is that american public, families and businesses have almost given up hope that we will tackle it. part of our job, and i look at tax reform as a marathon. it happens -- it has been 30 years. so, equally that to a marathon. in effect, if we are picking
toward 2017, we are in the last couple miles of that marathon. how we run 2016 is very critical for how we finish in 2017. so i think letting that to foundation for overall reform, trying to see if we can't advance the international tax reform. bringing those different proposals out, i think is very critical to next year. ben white: let's go back to the republican candidate tax reforms. what are you referring to specifically? which candidate's plans do you like the most and what elements of them do you think are the most innovative? rep. brady: they all have strengths, but they all have pro-growth ideas. that is key. it is clear it is a priority for them. if they did nothing else but that, that is enough because it lays the foundation for the president, that candidate to be president and actually follow through on that. to me, that is 99% of the issue.
you know you see members, or , presidential candidates, know, looking at to value-added taxes. we are looking at increases in earned income tax credits. that is that pro-work tax credit that has run into problems because of fraud with conservatives. but you have conservatives leading with some of those issues. the fact that they are willing to do what some would have thought was too politically risky and not only are they comfortable, they are enthusiastic about it. i think that tells us just about everything we need to know about their seriousness. ben white: do you have a corporate rate that you think is the correct corporate rate? rep. brady: i do in my mind. i knew you were going to go there, too. when chairman started his draft,
three years of relentless work, i think the fact that he laid out a comprehensive draft -- the first talk about a rewrite to him early years -- it grew the economy and shrunk the tax code by/4. and then, he essentially said, now make it more pro-growth. he proved to you can do that. -- whenstarted talking he started, you know, taking 35% to 34%, they have moved even lower. my belief is it needs to be under 20%. ben white: is 15% the number in your head? rep. brady: to do that we need to think freshly. we need to look at these issues a new to get those rates down. it is hard within this construct to do that.
my thinking is, the steve jobs approach, when he took apple over and they followed the -- and they had fallen behind, the advice he had given to microsoft in a similar situation in innovation. when you are behind, leapfrog. when you are that far behind your competitors, you better strive to go past them. i am convinced for us to make the change to really be competitive, we need to be bold in our approach. ben white: let's talk about a couple other things in your purview with ways and means. one of them is the affordable care act. republicans have had some successes in targeting pieces of that. the medical device tax being one of them. you will likely not get it repealed, despite getting the bill to the president's desk. what are some of the next things you are looking at in terms of approaching the affordable care act and taking up pieces of it that you don't like?
30-hour work week, certain mandates, what is on the agenda? rep. brady: 2016 lays the foundation for 2017 and frankly, we are winning this argument. there is a reason why, with all the efforts that have been done in 2015, essentially they have stalled out on the number of americans choosing, or being forced into the affordable care act who are actually taking that up. and, i think a big reason for that is, besides architecture is all wrong and the centers are all wrong and it is far too bureaucratic, is people have figured out the true cost of health care is not just the monthly premium. it is those out-of-pocket costs. it is the deductibles. the cost sharing. it is the fact that they may not be able to see that local doctor. people are smart and they figured out this is not the affordable health care that we were promised and that is why i think in 2016, as we approach it, we will have a family discussion about how we lay out our alternative.
what is the best way to do it? i think we agree on the principles of it, but we have again, the new approach. this will not be five committee chairs sitting down and deciding what the replacement plan is. it will be the collaboration of 246 members. that is going to drive this. ben white: and we will definitely have a replacement plan put forward in 2016 saying, this is what we replayed the affordable care act with? rep. brady: when i look at tax reform, where a want our health care to go, health care has changed. health care has changed, people do not stay at the same job for 40 years. they want options like they have never had before. i look at our principles in all
of the replacement plans that have been introduced and what in effect, we have been laying out is the health care backpack, the option for workers to choose a plan that is tailored to them, they goes with them from job to job. and, if it is a plan that is working for them to be able to take it into retirement as well. republican principles really focus on that type of a backpack idea. i am convinced that people are hungry for those types of choices. not driven from washington, but driven by their needs and i am convinced we can provide them that. ben white: one was welfare reform. do you envision up putting together a welfare reform bill that you can introduce? i realize these are big questions and we have a short amount of time left. but i want to hit welfare reform and medicare reform. will we see bills on those? rep. brady: with welfare, you
will see bills on that area. clearly it is a priority for speaker ryan and many in the conference. we will go through this discussion again and talk about our ideas as a conference going forward. but, i am convinced people want to get out of the welfare and poverty traps. they have really kept people who want to do better in our lives, really trap them where their opportunities are limited by the government. versus unlimited opportunity, i think the public is ready for it. with good intentions the government has made it harder for people truly to get out of those traps. and so yeah, i am pretty optimistic that we will be able to produce a bill on the area. with medicare, if you look at last year's solution for how we reimburse doctors, which transforms it from how many procedures to the quality of care. the second step is redesigning how we reimburse other providers throughout medicare.
from coming into the hospital, the care you get in the hospital, to outpatient care, and then after that, where you go. from rehabilitation to home, to wherever. and so, you are going to see ways and means continue that work and don't be surprised if many of the steps we take our -- a bipartisan in nature. i will stop here, but getting rid of that year to year madness of the doctor fix, which sucked up all the oxygen, is gone. and now you are seeing bipartisan ideas get the oxygen they deserve. these are very good steps going forward.
so look for us to look for opportunities to do this. don't be surprised if they are not all bipartisan. ben white: it would be pretty hard for me to believe you are introducing completely non-bipartisan bills on welfare and medicare reform in the election year when democrats are coming after you pretty hard. are you vulnerable to that? if you have the old agenda in changing the welfare system, it would open up a big opportunity for hillary clinton and democrats. to say, this is a republicans are and do you want this? rep. brady: my gut is that the reason washington is at such a low level of confidence and trust and support is not because of what this institution is doing, but because of what it is not doing, tackling the big issues. and i will say if the first step is solving how we pay doctors. the second step is redesigning how we pay others. the third step is giving seniors
more options than they have today to sort of the taylor medicare. some will be combining part a and part b. the other will be what others call premium support. by it is options are former tailored to seniors. that is step three. we're going to continue to lay the groundwork for that. ben white: we're going to wrap up, but it wanted to ask you. we have a blissful year ahead of us. with no threat of a government shutdown and no threat of a definite crisis. asseems like the debt limit a political weapon is perhaps being retired and will no longer be a threat that can be used in future budget negotiations. do think the debt limit is done as a political weapon that can be used? or, will we see it reemerge in 2017 and going forward? rep. brady: that could reemerge, but even though we have lowered
dramatically the annual deficits, we are still spending far beyond our means. and, it will take backup unless we make changes. every opportunity in our budget to find better ways to manage our money and get ourselves on a better path, we're going to want to do that. we are going to want to have those discussions. the question is, do we want a president who does not see that as a political game, but who will take this as an opportunity to find bipartisan ways to shrink the size of the government to within our means and make it more pro-growth. you can actually turn the issue into a real thoughtful, constructive discussion on how we look at ways and means again. ben white: i will let you go after this one. you are about to talk about your policy for the coming year and what you would like to propose legislatively. how much goodwill does speaker ryan have? he with thes
conservative wing of the party united with the moderate or pro-business wing? rep. brady: we have a diverse country, and a diverse number of republicans. i think they are excited about what paul ryan brings, a new thinking to how that speakership runs. in effect where it is common for members in the past -- i mean, for decades -- to hand that leadership, whoever it is. here is my bill, waiting for them to do something with it. when someone hands paul ryan that monkey, he hands it right act to them. you are a legislator. let's let legislators be legislators. committee members are really excited about that. the are really excited for the end of the year-two-year crisis
to end. both on taxes and the chance to tackle the issues. rather than principles on the big ones, we have tactics on small issues. and i think that is where we need to go. ben white: if there is a brokered republican suggestion, would paul ryan emerge as the republican nominee? [laughter] ben white: give us a thrill for the potential of a broken convention. -- brokered convention. because i think every analyst in the world would like that. rep. brady: i don't know. i am hopeful we disappoint you mildly in that. i will tell you, as many of us do know in paul ryan and the thought will and seriousness and intellect, at any point in his life, he would be an excellent president. no question about it. i think he would tell you right now, let's let the primary process work and let voters have their say. again competition works. , people rise and they fall.
some of my candidates i thought i was looking at very carefully i thought could make that leap did not make it. and others. so we definitely have 20 of time to unite behind a good candidate. ben white: not that much more time. thank you, chairman brady. [applause] ben white: i want to thank my wonderful sponsors. wells fargo for their partnership. thank you for those who joined us on why-five. thank you and don't run out the door, we have cocktails, we have food, stick around and hang out in have some fun. thank you so much for coming. [applause] ♪
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