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the v.a. is absolutely disgraceful and we are going to run it professionally and one of the things we will do, one of the biggest problems with it, or sevene waiting six days trying to get a pill or a minor procedure and many people are dying while waiting and we are going to work a system -- i put out a policy which i think has of you have seen and it been really praised, when you have six and five day weights where the doctors cannot see you, you will go to the local hospital, a local doctor, you will pay the bill and get taken care of properly and quickly. that's the way it is. in the end it's going to be a lot cheaper. [applause] we will do that, among other things. >> think you for that has come up as i have been walking around -- a lot of folks are deeply concerned about that $19 chilean and rising national debt. our deficits, the fact that we
have the highest corporate tax rate in the industrialized world. rules and regulations, including obamacare and others crushing businesses like this and others, people who are here. what is your plan to deal with the economic challenges, including our debt and deficit? : your deductibles, you never get to use it, you have to be hit by a tractor. those deductibles are so high you will never get to use it. obamacare is a disaster and that willful by 17 anyway because of all the people they did not think were going in were going in and the people they did think , they are not going in. so, we are going to get rid of obamacare and b will have a great plan and it will be much less expensive and it will be a plan that is much better for the people. so much fat. bushi watch a guy like jeb
, who is totally in favor of common core, i say no wonder he is down to 2%. can you imagine? -- in favorr of top of common core. we are going to kill common core. we are going to bring education back to the local communities where it should be. do not forget that with all the money that we spend, we spend so much on education, number one in the world, number one in the world by a factor of you have no idea, so far ahead, we are number 28 in education. so, we are bringing education back, getting rid of common core . on the subject, the second amendment, we will cherish and protect it. it is under siege. under siege. to be cutting a lot of the fraud, the abuse, the waste, there is so much of it. we are to start chopping down the debt very significantly, very quickly, bringing jobs back
to this country quickly. 11.95 trillion dollars. and we have where we are today. what -- what is your question? >> college debt is he huge problem right now. luckily i go to university where iget to go for free because am under an income gap. issueudent debt is a huge and i wanted to know what you were going to do when you are president, mr. trump. trump: it's one of the biggest questions i get from young people, because i go all over. student debt. one of the biggest problems is jobs. they don't mind the debt so much as they go through four years or two years of college and then they get out and they can't get a job. so, we are going to create jobs. i'm always said i will be the greatest jobs president that god ever created.
so, we are going to create jobs, so important. been watching this process. it sort of natural. it's a bad system, in a way. students go out and they borrow money from the federal government. keep going up, up, up, much more than they should be. all this money. the students are like a middleman. they just take from the students . there is no incentive for the college to bring down the cost. college costs, running the college, they go through the roof, including salaries for the top people. i look at the salaries from some of these people and it looks like they are running general motors, when it runs properly. looks like they are running a major corporation. it's really a problem. and i understand how the system works. that sort of the way the system works.
but the way that we have to do it is go in and check it because what is happening in the colleges, they are taking the money in the next year they go out, government is more money. the people that suffer -- this am going to solve the problem. ok? good question. righthave a young lady here. speak right into the microphone. >> i have a two-part question. how are you planning on keeping the country safe from international threats? trump: that's a very big question. good question. i hope the second part -- i could be a part-time question. [laughter] strongow we have a military that is under siege. when the general left a few weeks ago he said that we are the least prepared he has overseen seen our military. yet we should be the most prepared.
the world hates us. the world is under flame. the world is burning and they hate us. during the obama administration, look at what has happened. listings fornd military bases all the time. how many of these things are we giving up? these bases are closing. we are going to have a military that is so strong and powerful that nobody is going to mess with us, believe me. nobody. i have to add, i think you will be, you know it's right costly, that cheaper than what we are doing now. >> the second part of your question? >> can i take a selfie with you? >> we will see. trump: don't be a party pooper, scott. i'm strong enough.
help her up. come on, fellows. help her. the owner is going to help, he lifts cars all the time. scott is a party pooper. >> no, i'm not. trump: if he was running, he would have said, and up. >> i'm a distraction. all right, all right, good job. good job. with the glasses right there? in the green shirt? you'll have to speak up. there is a microphone right there. >> the border is paramount. without getting it under control , this is all irrelevant. we've got to get the border under control. are you going to make a commitment to seal the border? close down immigration for a couple of years until we figure out what to do next? trump: i'm the one. you are talking to the converted. forget it.
i was just interviewed by george stephanopoulos. if you don't have a border, you don't have a country. we don't have a country. we have a border that's like us -- like a piece of swiss cheese. be a real wall. this will be a serious wall. we will have a border, we will have borders all over. we will stop the whole thing peoplee visas where the flying in. the border is 50% of it, but we have so many people coming in through so many different ways. we will want people to come in, we will want people to go through the process. we want the people to come in legally, ok? >> thank you very much. there's a gentleman with a green shirt there. main principles of your campaign is to annihilate isis? >> who cares, what's your question? >> one of the main principles is to annihilate isis. besides taking the oil, what
will you do to bring stability to the region to prevent the escapes in iraq? be honest witho you, stability to the region? we have been doing this for 15 years. we have become a debtor nation. our roads are falling down. our highways, our bridges, they are in such bad shape. 50% of it is considered unsafe. we have to rebuild the united states. we have to rebuild the united states. we have got to get rid of isis. everyone says -- trump is this tough guy. i'm slow on the trigger. i'm the tough guy, the strongest guy militarily that you can never have. i always say, i'm a militaristic are sent. we will have such a strong military. you know what? it's time. time to your rid of isis surgically and fast. you cannot allow them to cut the
heads of christians off. that's from medieval times. i used to read about that and i said -- this is no different. we are living in medieval times. times that are just as bad as they ever were in the history of the world. i used to be that in history class, the viciousness, right? medieval times? we are probably doing the same thing right now. probably the most vicious time. people that are disgusting, disgusting animals and we are going to stop that. but you know what? we have got to get back to our country. we have got to bring our people back. we've got to let people know that if they mess around with us, they are going to be gone and we are going to wipe them off the face of the earth. >> we have one more question, but before we ask it, donald, what is the website that people can go to to either volunteer, help out or spread the message?
trump: donald j trump.com. in new hampshire we are leading by like 20 points, doing great, but you know what? doing a favor, go out and vote. if we don't vote, we are wasting our time. much, soon to be president donald trump. trump: thank you. >> what are you going to do about -- i have tried to reach out to you many times. i am disabled in many ways. nfl player. nine concussions, i haven't recovered from one to the next of the next. i'm not supposed to stand here. i wasn't supposed to trudge through the snow. fighting ssi disability for three years. in 2008 i was doing something that i can't do anymore, because my brain does not function or filter anymore. question? your >> i lost everything in 2011 to
the place one mile down the road. i now live in a homeless shelter. how do i get disability to have this process move forward like that? trump: i know you have a tough situation and i think the best so that we don't keep everyone is have someone see you afterwards to see your situation. the truth is everybody's situation is different and we will see your situation. >> are you down at crossroads? ok. you have a local state rep you can see, representative baltasar, we will tie that together. trump: where is he? i don't see him. first time ever seen him in the second row. >> we put him behind the column for a reason. he's a good guy, working hard. take one more? or are we done? >> take one more. ma'am? in the purple right here.
>> my question is -- i manage property and i have a lot of friends that are small businesses. contractors, landscapers. they have a hard time when they employ u.s. citizens, pay taxes, they have a hard time competing against businesses that i see a lot of that employ illegals. they don't pay taxes, they pay them under the table. do you have a plan to address that? >> we have to stop the illegals, but we have visa programs because we don't want to stop the economy. have programs where you can put people to work because we don't want to affect the economy. we -- our economy is right week. we have the slowest recovery in history. it's not even a recovery. look again, you hear these phony jobs numbers? people that gave up looking for jobs? they are considered employed.
you have 100 million people that want to work that they can't work. we will be able to take care of that situation beautifully. we want our people working, you understand. thank you. >> all right, everybody. let's hear it for donald trump. let's hear it for donald trump. of the websitee again, sir? you trump: donald j trump.com. >> and let's go, patriots. let's go. ♪ >> we are going down this way. real fast. ♪
>> our road to the white house coverage continues today when texas senator ted cruz campaigns in milford, new hampshire. see it live at 5 p.m. eastern here on c-span. >> former president bill clinton and daughter, chelsea, took part at a campaign event in iowa for hillary clinton. the event took place at lincoln high school in des moines. iowa holds its first in the nation caucuses on february 1. this is just over 20 minutes. bill clinton: if i were 25 -- and i would like to be -- and i knew at 25 what i know then,
now, and you said to me -- you could live anywhere you want to live 25 years from now but you have to decide right this minute, i would pick the united states and a heart. [applause] i agree when the president said we had to embrace change, not walk away from it. that's true. but why is there so much anger, frustration in all of that? because what he said was true, but it's not the only truth americans are living with. we have gotten 14 million jobs in five years. it is the most rapid rate since i was president. 84% of the american people adjusted for inflation have not gotten a raise. half of the american people adjusted for inflation are making what they did the day i walked out of the oval office 13 years ago. there is a reason that this black lives matter movement has taken hold among young people.
we see these films of people being shot when they are disarmed or disabled on the ground. it has got to be ending. how do you think all of these dreamers feel? these hispanic americans or would be americans who have been welcome to join our military, can go on to college, now they are being told they all need to be sent home? something that would collapse the economy, by the way. true, that what happened in san bernardino was terrifying. feelo the muslim americans who deplore that as much as everyone else when they are told the we are going to turn our backs on all of them. going to watch people to make sure they don't get out of hand? let me tell you a story. you know what happens when
you're old and retired. i spent an hour or two every day trying to figure out what's going on. a couple of days after san bernardino there's this small article in the new york daily news and there is a picture of what looks like a bullet hole in a piece of wood. so, i read the article. here's the story. muslim immigrant who came here 2002 gets a job in new york at a convenience store. one afternoon to robbers come in , with two pistols. one faces the door, one faces him, holds a gun on him and says -- open the cash register. get out the money and give it to me? he's terrified. you would be, too. he takes the money out. he looks at it, looks at him and says -- you know, i've only had this job for one year. he's thinking to himself -- it's not my money, it's not yours. unbelievably he slaps at the gun.
off, missing him by a few inches. thank goodness they were not totally crazy. they realized they just fired a gun in downtown new york in the middle of the day, so they ran away. he immediately runs next-door, calls the police, waits for the police to come, makes his report. his boss comes. he so thrilled by the bravery that he gives in the afternoon off. the kicker? the man went home to his little apartment, where he had been living because he was sending all his money home to his family . he pulled out his prayer rug, got down on his knees and made -- and thanked his god that his children and wife would now be able to join him. he is far more representative of mother -- muslim america than the people in san bernardino. [applause]
so, look. rebuild the middle class, give poor people a chance to work their way into it. it is not just a women's issue, it is an economic issue. the labor markets are not tight enough. we were always in the top 10. we were seventh in the world when i left office. we are one of only seven countries with no paid leave. we don't have affordable childcare. we don't have equal pay. so, when hillary calls for those things they are not just moral ,ssues that are right for women that's an economic necessity for the united states. a college education is more important than ever. there are a lot of exciting examples of it. i spent the night last night in cedar rapids at the hotel run by
the local community college the teaches hospitality jobs. it's a beautiful chip -- beautiful place, if you ever get the chance to stay there. we can do this. what was not said was that there were all these young people out there with college debt that should be able to be refinanced at low interest rates and payback it below 6% of their income. [applause] so, you have got the problems with minorities. but you should also know that for the first time -- i had to ask chelsea, the public health expert -- for the first time in a very long time the life expectancy of non-college-educated middle-aged white people is going down. so, it's a tragedy when kids die in the streets because of police violence.
it's a tragedy when young, inspiring people cannot finish .chool it's a tragedy when life expectancy is going down from what looks like too much use of opiates and heroine. more women smoking. more diabetes. these people are dying of roque and art because they think the american dream is out of reach. hillary will never stop until every single one of them has a chance to reach their potential. [cheers and applause] so. we have got to bring the economy back for everybody. we've got to deal with these issues that keep families up at night, to use our language. the most important one by far is the opiate and heroine addiction. keep in mind, this is an opportunity to do something with our republican friends because it is so widespread it is killing their voters to.
i'm not being frivolous. this is encouraging. doctors orre pharmacists breaking the law, shouldn't they be prosecuted? should people suffering be treated like the public health problem that they are and we can't do it until we have more treatment, coverage facilities. everyone knows that. so, she believes she can pass the program to get something done in a bipartisan fashion. she's the first person pointed out that we need to do more, as we tried when i was president, from the places where the unemployment rate was too high, where the per capita income was too low. i was up in northern new hampshire the other night, a place where you would think, given the geography of this campaign, she would have no chance.
the city manager was there to endorse her and he said -- i will tell you why. partly because when he moved there, the building was an empty factory with broken windows and pigeons and nothing else and now it's beautiful because of the new market tax credit. i want someone who does stuff like that again. some of thatdo with this opium academic. our foundation was brought into play because the sun of a good friend of ours to was working for hillary at the time went out with his girlfriend, drank a few , falling asleep without waking up. don't do that. even if you are not addicted, the stuff can kill you because
it deadens the part of your brain that tells your body to read all your asleep. so, now the fda in a project that we worked on for three and a half years in record time has approved the use of the lock zone miracle drug in a spray form that we need to get into every police department, every college dorm, every school so that we can save more lives. we've got to do this and do it together. to first thing we have got do is keep the republicans from rolling back the good things the president has done. [applause] to reopen the books on health care. we need to keep going until we get everyone we can cover by medicaid. we need to keep working until we get the drug prices down. we need to keep doing it. [applause]
we need to protect the gains that have been made in gun safety. they want to reverse them. spent her early years in arkansas. when i was 10 years old i had a 22, shooting cans up a fence post. when i was 12 i had a 410 shotgun. i know all about this. there is not a single thing that president obama has proposed that would do anything to undermine people's right to hunt, sport, shoot, defend themselves. [applause] you know that this is all about the fact that a slightly smaller percentage of households have guns then used to. first they needed liability , so they became the only industry in america that you couldn't sue. and then they had to keep everyone in a constant state of
paranoia because the same households were buying more and more guns that they didn't need. they became convinced the landing atould be their door in a black helicopter to confiscate all the guns. listen, i've been there. i've done that. i know how people think. people who have nothing else in life but hunting and fishing. she knows how to keep talking to them and we have to keep going. we cannot back up. on gun safety, gay rights, climate change legislation, any of these things. the final thing that you need is someone who can keep this country safe without sacrificing the constitution of the united states and the character of america. look, it's a dangerous world out there. but if you want to know who can rebuild the economy and deal the social issues and keep
the country safer, this is not a close question. hillary was the first new york senator ever on the armed services committee. was there she worked with lindsey graham, who was a republican candidate to get health care for the national guard in iowa and elsewhere. she worked with other to make sureere that people with post-traumatic stress disorder were properly cared for. she worked with john mccain. going the republicans around the world, including up to alaska to have the eskimos tell them that their way of life was ending because of climate change. everything she did she try to work with other people. one day when i was in the congress on our foundation business, i young officer came up to me in his uniform and said
-- you don't know me, but i represent the pentagon on capitol hill and i thought you would like to know that we believe that your wife knows more than any member of congress in either party or either house about what these families are going through and what they need and we thank them. we need that. democrats want to defend the country to. we just want the country that we are defending to still be there when we are done. and she will also do something to heal the political system, beginning with making good appointments to the supreme court. [applause] so, that's my pitch. in my lifetime -- let me just say one other thing. hillary is great at finding common ground.
things that republicans say, don't take it seriously. they are smart, they know what they are doing. but if you go to her headquarters in brooklyn you will see these pictures of republicans and what they said about her when she wasn't running. if you nominate her you will get a chance to see those quotes again. newt gingrich, she was on a committee with him to plan the military for the 21st century. guess what they recommended? pretty much what the president is doing now in isis land. use special forces if they are willing to fight for their own future. we cannot carry the ball, but we should help them. so, what does this have to do with where we are? she can't be president if you don't nominate her. do nominate her, they can't stop her from becoming president.
[[cheers and applause] in my lifetime i have never had a chance to vote for a person who by experience, accomplishment, knowledge and temperament was more well-suited to meet the needs of america at a difficult but as the president said, basically hopeful time. we have to seize the promise of the 21st century and deal with the problems we have right now. strong at home and strong above. we have to go after people trying to kill us, but we have to make more friends and fewer enemies. we have to do these things together. ,ou will never have a chance young people here, if your experience is anything like mine you will be like -- you will be lucky if you have another chance in your lifetime to vote for a person who is so nearly qualified to meet all the challenges that we face today.
so, tonight i want you to get those caucus cards, if you have them. become a precinct leader or a volunteer leader on caucus night . i want you to take some time in these last 16 days or so, 15 days, to go out there and knock on doors. call people on the phone. tell them what you heard tonight . give them a reason. the great thing about iowa is that neighbors still talk to neighbors and they still listen to each other. people can have a conversation. i love being here. it was two degrees below zero? all these people, they just wanted to talk. we are in good shape. the president told us the truth. but that's not the truth that many of our fellow americans are living right now. if you want somebody who is strong enough to stand their ground and great enough to find
common ground, who remembers that abraham lincoln signed the university act and the homestead act while prosecuting the civil war, standing his ground and searching for common ground, you will never have a better chance. as for that 11 hour fiasco of the hearing where she showed us that she was strong enough to be president? [cheers and applause] i called her and she said -- what do you think? i said that you know? i think of going to vote for you. i hope you will, too. got bless you. -- god bless you. ♪
caucuses and new hampshire primary, as well as the knights democratic presidential campaign today -- campaign debate. and publisher of the cook political report. thank you for being with us. i want to talk about tonight's debate. the file debate before democrats ote -- the final debate before democrats vote in iowa and new hampshire. guest: people say, isn't this exciting? aren't you having a lot of fun? not really. if you believe that the political process is important, if you believe that the presidency is an important thing and this is an important process , some of the aspects of this campaign have not -- you are
seeing some folks running that aren't necessarily qualified for the job. yt is something of a parod of a presidential race in a lot of ways. it's not as much fun as the others. you deal with what you got. there is a front-page story that advises to hillary -- advisers to hillary clinton believe her campaign made serious miscalculations when it came to the challenge made by senator bernie sanders. they will meet tonight along with martin o'malley in charleston. let's talk strategy. guest: i think perhaps the clinton folks didn't take sanders as seriously early on as they should have. time, i think it would be a horrible mistake to go after him really hard now. because she is going to need his youthful enthusiastic supporters in a general election. is not going to
naturally get the kind of enthusiasm that a 47-year-old barack obama got into thousand eight. she's going to need these folks. got in barack obama 2008. she's going to need these folks. sanders is very strong in the caucus states and new hampshire and new england. once you get further down into the schedule of primary states, sanders is not very strong. his support is fairly narrow. of a't think there's much danger for losing the nomination to bernie sanders. you told me hillary clinton was not going to be the democratic nominee, my money would be that meant that the justice department moved ahead and things got messy and democrats looked for the little red box on the wall that says in case of fire break the glass and
inside it has joe biden's phone number. i don't think sanders can realistically -- he is sure going to call for a lot of -- cause her a lot of heartache. host: can clinton turn the tables on senator sanders in tonight's debate? i want to read what he says. hillary clinton arrived in the middle of a rocky stretch all of a sudden on the wrong side of a new narrative that suggest that senator sanders is surging. she is facing possible defeat in the first two contests of the year. she has to explain her rationale for running. guest: yes. if you move the debate to national security, sanders doesn't have a whole lot to say. he's sort of -- it's economic inequality and free college tuition, things like that. he makes a very eloquent argument in that narrow scope.
once the debate broadens out, he gets a little thinner. we have to remember that february -- that is iowa, new hampshire, south carolina, nevada. i know that 6% of all the delegates on the democratic side are pretty similar to that. iowa, new hampshire, how is sanders going to do in south carolina? not very good. in nevada? probably not very good. into the fcc primary states. other than massachusetts, there is no place he is going to do well. his good places are frontloaded. host: what is the rationale for hillary clinton? guest: i think she says, i'm tested, i know the job. i've been around. i'm ready for it. true thatble -- is it
the democratic party doesn't have a real big bench right now? yes. i think she's -- i know the job. i've been around it. i can do it. that's basically it. host: you mentioned joe biden. he says he regrets every day that he's not in the race but added, it's the right decision. guest: i think that's right. people are looking at all kinds of other things. i think he was still in the mo urning process and you have to throw your heart and soul into it. i think if democrats need to turn to him and it wouldn't be a long involved process, he might make a different decision then he made last fall. than heferent decision made last fall. host: let's talk about the republican race. ted cruz glad to finish the fight with donald trump.
george will. is christie on the cusp? and governor john kasich of the ohio. this follows the endorsement by the union leader last year. way i look at the republican nomination, you've got the mainstream conventional old-fashioned establishment. badly split between jeb bush, chris christie, marco rubio, and john kasich. and you have the most conservative lane which is ted cruz, huckabee, santorum. and ted cruz is just dominating. clearly. and then you have the new lane that we didn't really expect , the populist side, which is donald trump. ted cruz has consolidated the
right and trump has consolidated the populist lane. this other conventional lane is badly split and that is what new hampshire is going to do. it's going to narrow that group of four to two or even want. one. wide-open.utely host: our phone lines are open. our guest is charlie cook of the cook political report. let's go to william joining us from arizona, democrats line. good morning. caller: good morning. i would like to ask charlie cook theestion concerning contestants and their comments sailors on their knees
with their hands behind their heads. i am a navy brat. i know what you do -- i know that you do what you are told to do. calabrois it -- the uss 1868 iss captured in being used as a tourist attraction in north korea? that's the question i would like to ask. i have sent e-mails to john mccain's office and lindsey graham's office and i have not received a response. thank you. the video of those sailors, their hands behind their backs. chris matthews said that is going to show up in a campaign ad pretty soon. guest: i think it will. if you are an american, you winced at what you saw. but the outcome turned out to be as good as it could possibly be.
so i doubt if it has a huge impact on the trajectory of this race. i think what's important is that the american sailors were not harmed, or returned immediately -- were returned immediately. pueblo, that's not my lane. host: the release of those five americans including a washington post reporter and the lifting of sanctions already meeting criticisms from republicans. will this be a factor? guest: i don't think so. it looks like the iranians are living up to their part of the deal. this was going to be a major factor in the presidential race in either direction. host: let's go to tim in massachusetts. good morning. caller: good morning.
i've been calling in for a while. about 25 years or so. i would just like to take a minute to thank the guests you have such as charlie for coming in and giving us their expertise . people see more of these in nonelection years. charlie, you look pretty good yourself right now. [laughter] host: is this a relative? anyt: i don't have relatives except in pittsburgh. thank you. keep talking. i want to hear more. the more that donald trump looks like he has some ability to really become president or the republican that frames the outlook for bernie sanders -- he starts to look more reasonable and more productive against donald trump. and if mr. trump is not the nominee, what do you think about
his potential being president summer down the line? -- somewhere down the line? thank you very much c-span. you guys are great. i wish you would go back to the format where you had multiple guests at the same time like you did many years ago. host: we still do that quite often. but thanks. i'm sure charlie cook appreciates your kind words. guest: thank you, tim. scarborough called me a trump denier. i'm still very skeptical about donald trump winning the republican nomination. i know there is an enormous amount of anger out there in general. there is specifically a lot of anger among conservatives on the republican side and the feeling of wanting to send the career politicians in washington and congress a message. i completely get that. i see trump as more of a vehicle than in the end,
someone who is likely to get the republican nomination. i think at some point along the way, even these very angry populist and conservative folks will at some point along the way start thinking about temperament, judgment, and really visualize trump in these situations surrounded by the joint chiefs and the director of national intelligence with his finger on the button. i suspect that a lot of these trump people are going to at some point, maybe after i was were new hampshire -- iowa or new hampshire, start looking for a more plausible vehicle for their anger. a lot of those people are going to end up over in the ted cruz camp. which is why i expect to see him in the final two along with probably one of the mainstream candidates.
there is an enormous amount of power to donald trump's cause. he moved up further, faster, higher than anybody thought. a lot of the things that people thought would bring him down have obviously not. i think at some point, temperament and judgment and familiarity with matters of public policy more than just sort of what you see on television -- i think that is going to win out in the end. host: the new york times sunday magazine has a piece called "left turn." i want to ask you about what is next for the republicans. national journal has a piece about speaker paul ryan. he met with reporters just after the republican retreat that took place in baltimore saying the focus this year is going to be on five policy areas. national security, jobs and economic growth, health care, poverty and opportunity, and
restored me constitutional balance of powers. how will that play out in an election year? what speaker ryan said should be the priorities -- i agree with them completely, but i think in an election year, congress will end up just responding to the mosust-dos. what do they have to do to keep the government-funded, renew statutes that are expiring. it will probably be a little bit more of a reactive one. there is not a lot of history in a presidential election year of congress moving forward and taking affirmative action on big things. i think he is steering things in a direction where down the road once we have a new president, maybe there can be some movement in some of these areas. the iowa republican
caucuses have not picked a republican nominee since george w. bush in 1988. the question is, why is iowa still relevant? guest: whoever comes first, it could be utah. whatever comes first is going to get a lot of attention. my hunch is that, when we are in , iowa and newons hampshire might be less important than they used to be. think if scientists are right that observation changes behavior, iowa and new hampshire have been watched way too closely for way too long and behaved in a somewhat unusual way. and they have sort of been focus, tootoo much much coddling. too many special-interests
trying to pull public opinion one way or the other. it has gotten a little exotic. 4% of thee guiding republican delegates are picked after the month of february. this may be wishful thinking for those who love politics -- we haven't had a question as to who the nominee would be on the republican side since 1970 six when ronald reagan challenged all the way to the convention jerry ford. what would the scenario likely be if that were to happen in 2016? guest: the term i use, and i'm glad you didn't use the other one, i don't use the term brokered convention is i don't think our political process has brokers anymore. to have brokers suggests adults in the room. adult supervision. which i don't think is the case. there is a higher chance in modern times of having a
contested convention i think what you would see happen is that ted cruz continues to the mostte conservative section of the republican party. conventional's, more likely rubio, possibly jeb bush but probably not, or to consolidate the conventional side. and then donald trump is subsiding but still has enough that you have three people to in and nobody is anywhere near a majority. -- that's where the fight that's where it gets really interesting. ynn in news go to l york. caller: good morning, steve. nice tocook, it is speak to someone -- in the loud voice of how you all think things are going. in my opinion, the previous
of the is an example power of the donald trump candidacy. say, hei mean, people has brought up the citizenship issue out of cynicism. he is trying to take down ted cruz because he is suddenly the highest guy. i see it differently. as an independent, i am just enthralled that we have an outsider. and i'm not motivated by anger. i am motivated that he has the ability to put a spotlight on certain issues. and i take it naively. maybe i'm a woman and i give people the benefit of the doubt. valid it that it was a subject to say hey, what is this thing blew up after we having on e a nominee? i come from a certain amount of experience on this issue because we as people start the country we work for ibm and we lived in
holland in the 1970's. our first child was born over there. we are long-term generation americans. werehe people in the hague in the diplomatic corps. all their babies could become president. with, years, we've lived our oldest son cannot be president. we got our passport from the embassy of the consulate. but all of a sudden, donald trump is the outsider is just kind of -- he has the ability to spotlight issues. and if you're not a party politician, i don't want to have one more push or one more click -- one more bush or one more clinton. -- i thinkhe concept the president should be a civilian person. granted, this is brand-new for us to have a guide who has so little pull little -- a guy who
has so little political experience. the constitution says you have to be 35 and you need a high school education. it doesn't even say you have to go to college. the citizenship issue, i think we should have a discussion. and i hope the lawyers are right. could become president. no president has ever focused on this issue. point -- youher brought up the message of donald trump. i'm curious what you think of that message and can you repeat with the slogan or messages of any of the other candidates? caller: i do respect jeb bush. earnestly has his finger on so much of the reality of the job. that is for sure. but it is still this revolving door. the cynicism involved in the political class -- it's not out of anger. i don't think the country -- we
are not an oligarchy. i do not want to have this revolving power structure. a wife and a husband in. we keep turning the page and it is exciting that a civilian a real -- granted, he is estate developer, granted, there are lots of flaws. i wish he would in a big-time cleanup his filthy language. the $19 exciting -- trillion in debt, i can quote that. he has said, i don't approve of a wall. host: you put a lot of issues on the table. this is a piece this morning from the washington post. voters are not feeling the love for bush three. the word that continues to come up his dynasty.
-- is dynasty. jeb bush is like the younger brother whose older brother wrecked the car just before he needed it for prom. it's not a bush grant his brother inherited in 2000 -- it's not the bush brand his brother inherited in 2000. person to best president clinton i don't really care what their last name is or who they were born to or they were married to. this is somebody that is qualified, that is smart, and that has good judgment. but i'm not deciding this. there an enormous amount of discontent. people want change. you look at the people that are for bernie sanders, the change their looking for is very
different from the change that the folks that are for ted cruz or donald trump. so that's why we don't know how this thing is going to sort itself out. i suspect you are going to see nominees for each side that are people that have served in government in some way, shape, or form. i think all 44 presidents until now have had some kind of governmental and/or military experience. i don't think we have ever had one that had none whatsoever. i think that that pattern will hold up in the end. host: and the message of donald trump and why he is resonating? guest: i said earlier, there is a lot of anger. there is a lot of discontent. they are tired of the way things have been going in washington. it's one thing to have a vehicle for the anger. it is something else -- who do you decide to hold that job in the variant?
-- in the very end? once they start thinking about temperament and judgment and things like that, you will see the republican nomination go to very likely that an angry outsider, but maybe one that is a little bit more plausible in terms of president of the united states the donald trump. host: our guest is charlie cook of the cook political report. his column is available online at nationaljournal.com. welcome all of your twitter comments. this one says, i use the term bback convention." how are you doing? i want to ask you about things
going on in the united kingdom. there's going to be a vote tomorrow going on because of a petition signed by half a million people asking for donald trump to be banned from the u.k. if donald trump is voted to be banned from the country -- does he take that as a positive or a negative? is there a way that you can spin that -- is there a way that he can spin that? host: we are going to be covering that debate here on c-span tomorrow. curious, how big of a story is this in great britain? caller: plenty of people are talking about it. the fact that it is the most signed u.k. petition since the opening of the u.k. petition website is what is causing people to talk about it at the moment. i think what's going to happen
is the politicians are just going to go into the chamber and then eventually just vote to allow him into the country. jeremy corbyn has already invited donald trump to his constituency. he has also said he should go up to my place in central manchester and check out the muslims and how mexicans get along with each other in this country. talking point, both going to happen is the politicians are going to get together. and then they're going to say, host: about 573,000 people have signed the petition. that well i can say is spend a lot of time meeting with people from ambassadors, foreign governments, embassies, foreign
ministries and business leaders from around the world. collectiontching our ranging from amusement to being appalled or concerned because the rest of the world looks to the united states for leadership. turmoil, and there is considerable concern about what in the world is going on over here? , i don'the petition know what will come of it, but it is a manifestation of a lot of concern around the world about what is going on in our country. host: you can watch the debate live tomorrow morning as recovered in great britain between the parliament and the issue of donald trump.
there is a tweet from carol that says, people also want someone they can trust to tell the truth. experience is reaped and poor outcome is not a plus. we are at a time went on the republican side, experience or expertise in public policy seems to be a disqualifier. if you look at putting trump aside, but a couple of the major and tedes, marco rubio cruz, they are freshmen senators. a lot of republicans, conservatives said back in 2008 that week we should -- that we should not have young freshmen senators running for president, but people were so unhappy that experience as essential qualification has gone out the window. democrats turned away from it back in 2008 and republicans
seem like there is a fair chance to do that again. saying,other view were it is not donald trump's language that bothers me, it is his ability to encourage those hateful ideas in others. fascism is scary. guest: i will not call him by name. i think he is a vehicle, the manifestation of a lot of anger, resentment, frustration, and a to shake things up. whether they go his direction, i am skeptical. host: first, let's hear from gala joining us from texas on the republican line. good morning. good morning. we just saw -- my family just saw the 13th hour about benghazi in yesterday, and i wanted to see how you thought it would resonate with the voters.
i also wanted to make a comment that my dad was in vietnam twice, and i would never vote because ofablishment the democrats or who did this, and i understand that, but this is the way our country is going. this is the reason with the scandal with the e-mails, the reason that we no longer trust the establishment. a donald trump supporter, even though i do not like everything he says, i think he makes old statements to bring attention to him and then he says what he says. off and that you answer my question. host: thank you for the call. in iowarump opening up to show that film that came out this weekend. guest: i have not seen the movie. i know there is considerable debate about whether everything in the movie is entirely
accurate and i was not there, so i do not know and the cia chief has objected to part of it. i know the former secretary of defense, bob gates, was left off six months earlier, but pretty much knew the situation and he said there was nothing he would have done differently. clearly, a horrible tragedy occurred. clearly, security was not what it should have been. resourcesere were the for us to go in and help those people out in real time, there is a lot of debate about whether that is exactly to or not. tends to, a hollywood take things in a direction that ands certain conclusions sometimes it is not always entirely true. i would not take it as the god's
honest truth necessarily. a lot of time, there are a lot of proofs. want to share with the one number this morning from "the washington post," and available online at washington post.com. , the percent of american families, 158 families total out of 120 million potential families, that have donated nearly half the money that's been spent in the 20 16th presidential campaign. guest: i think once the supreme court ruled that spending was a form of speech, therefore, protected, the citizens united decision basically flows from that. am not really comfortable with the assumption, but if that is the way it was going to be interpreted and clearly it is, and i think it will be for the future, this is what we are at.
you have some really wealthy people on the left and on the this isnd i don't think the way it ought to be, but i don't think congress will be able to do anything about it. future point, 20 years or 30 years from now, the supreme court reinterprets the constitution in a different way, this is where we are. host: let's go to sean from pennsylvania. you have family there and not sure if you are related. [laughter] caller: pleasure to speak to you. my question is -- i have been listening since the beginning of the segment and my question is to charlie. who are you? host: what is your background. guest: i was born and raised in shreveport, louisiana, and to
washington to go to georgetown, worked on capitol hill while i was on college, worked on campaigns, a polling firm, the hill, a trade association, and in 1984, i started this newsletter because i had a previous job sort of watching campaigns and analyzing who was up, down, winning or losing, and i started the business in 1984 as a one-man shop, and now there are several. independent.ered host: we welcome you on this sunday morning. thank you. let's share some of the latest ads. with bernie sanders, senator from vermont and hillary clinton, former secretary of state.
>> there are two democratic visions for regulating wall street. one says it is ok to take
millions for big banks and tell them what to do. up the bigbreak banks, close the tax loophole, and make them pay their fair share. then we can expand health care to all and provide universal college education. will they like me? no. will they begin to play by the rules of our president? better believe it. i am
bernie sanders and i approve the message. >> an average of 90 people are killed by guns in this country every single day. it has to stop. president obama wants to make universal background checks the law of the land, and he wants to make sure gun manufacturers can be held accountable when their guns are used to kill our children. it is time to pick a side. either we stand with the gun lobby only join the president and stand up to them. i am with them. please, join us. i am hillary clinton and i approve this message. holding within the democratic party and sanders
going after clinton in terms of the money she has proceed from big corporations and hillary clinton tried to draw divide on the issue of guns. guest: it is useful to think about what has happened to the two parties. you go back 50 years, and if you ,ake the conservative democrats whether from the south, border south, small town, whatever, and if you suck about 80% out of the conservatives from the democratic party, it may be at the moderates and they would move over to the left. that is what has happened, and the same on the republican side. if you sucked out 80% of the liberals in the moderates, that party would move to the right. political scientists follow haveogical sorting, so we a democratic party with the far left center of gravity and the republican party with a far this center of gravity and bushy middle is people who do
not feel comfortable with either side. is by mostnton, who hand of, on the left her husband's administration, is scrambling to keep up with a party that has moved to her left, just as jeb bush was one of the most conservative governors from 1998 to 2000 sex and now finds himself speaking on the left of the republican party. the party moved out from under it. host: here is the campaign from
the george bush -- year as an ad from the george bush campaign -- the jeb bush campaign. >> donald trump is a jerk. >> last night in south carolina, he appeared to mock a reporter with a disability. >> you have to see this guy, i do not remember what i said. son whoe a 12-year-old has cerebral palsy and that made me angry. something to