tv Mike Huckabee Campaign Event in Ames Iowa CSPAN January 28, 2016 4:31am-5:45am EST
something is a millionaire, and somebody is making $118,000 a year, they are both paying the same amount of money into the social security trust fund. if you lift the cap on taxable income going into social security and you start at $250,000, we can extend the life of social security for 50 years from today. we can increase benefits for people making less than 16,000 a year by 1300 a year. that will make a difference in a lot of people's lives. that is what we should be doing. all of us are aware when we
turn on the tv, you see horrible acts of bar baret and atrocities. and nobody has any magical answers to these problems. but this is what i do believe. you are looking at somebody who when he was in the house of representatives listened to what george w. bush and dick cheney, donald rumsfeld and all of those guys had to say about their view about iraq. i listened very carefully and i said they are wrong. i voted against the war in raq. and if you go to my website, you go to you tube, listen to what i said on the floor of the house about my fears about what would happen if we invaded iraq. and it gives me no pride to tell you, no joy to tell you that much of what i feared
would happen did happen. that was then. now is now. and now we are confronted with a barbaric organization called isis which in my view must be destroyed. but what we must be is not just tough. we must be smart. and to be smart in my view means we must not get our young men and women in the military bogged down in perpetual warfare in the quagmire of the middle east. the that means is that united states must form a strong and coordinated coalition. king abdullah of jordan made a very important point a few months ago.
what he said is obviously terrorism is an international issue. impacts the whole world. but it is primarily an issue of the muslim people because groups like isis have hijacked their religion, the soul of their religion and have converted it into a barbaric way of life. and what he said -- and i agree with him -- is that at the end of the day it must be muzz limb troops on the ground destroying isis with the support of the major powers on earth. and i agree with that. i believe that the united states, u.k., france, germany, russia all of the major countries around the world
should be actors in supporting through air efforts, training the muslim elping troops on the ground destroy isis. and here there is maybe, maybe, maybe, some good news recently. as you know, the iraqi army has not been a terribly effective fighting force. not just -- that's right. that's an understatement. but in the last few months we have seen some progress. as you know, the iraqi army fought very effectively and has retainic ramadi. and it turns out that in the last year isis has lost about 40% of the territory that it ontrols in iraq. i believe we have got to train the iraqi army, we have got to
train our friends in the region. but i will do everything that i to see that our men and women do not get caught up in the never ending quagmire of that region. let me just go back to the point that susan made a moment ago. well, more than a moment ago. a few moments ago. d what her point was changed -- change never comes without struggle. change never comes unless we have the courage to stand up to oppression. that is the history of the civil rights movement, it's the history of the women's movement, the history of the
gay movement, the history of the environmental movement. the only way that change takes place is when millions of people become engaged and stand p. let me just tell you something. and i'm the only candidate for president who tells you this. but it's true. i cannot do it alone. no president can do it alone. because the powers that be on wall street and corporate america and the corporate media and the koch brothers and all these powerful special interests -- no president can do it alone. this y way we transform country is when millions of people are prepared to engage and when people stand up and say loudly and clearly, this country this government of ours belongs to all of us, not just the 1%.
i met mike huckabee when i was lieutenant governor and i went out visited his state, a dynamic individual and saw what they had done for a blue state, a guy who never worked across party lines when i got elected in the legislature. i got to see what it was like in the majority and in the senate, i saw what it was like in the minority. and i respected to find common ground. people who run for office say they are going to be hard nosed. they won't be an effective leader or person to make things happen. and mike huckabee is what i think shows great leadership. he was able to pass things and get things done. and what i have seen in the last few years in washington is not what i want to see the future of our country go. there are many, many
opportunities to do better. and i want to feed on what is going on lately. they want to see positive things not only in this country, but the way we project ourselves around the world and see no opportunities. we have young people that are missing school right now because they wanted to come and hear the governor speak. they have priorities and want to know where the country is going. this is an opportunity and able to show the rest of the opportunity. i hope you'll join me in supporting mike huckabee and look deeply at his candidacy and what he has done in the past. promises are easy. track record is something you have to live with. and he has a fabulous track record. as we move forward, i ask you to not only going out monday night and caucusing you have
the opportunity to affect so many others. there will be able that will never meet mike huckabee. if you tell them about your experience based on your judgment and personal relationships with them, they will vote for that person. so there are thousands upon thousands of votes sitting in this room right now if you utilize that friendship, relationship, relative, family member, co-worker, all of those can make a huge difference. i hope you get engaged in the process and this is the opportunity to change where our country goes. a man walks into a doctor's office and he was bitten by a dog. doctor runs a few tests and he has rabies and he makes out a list and the doctor sees him making his list out and the doctor says sir, you realize with modern medicine you are not going to die from rabies and said you do not have to make out a will.
he said i'm making a list of the people i plan on biting. you can choose to make a difference. mike huckabee -- number one news show on the weebds in new york, great money, great lifestyle. i was a guest one time on his show. he chose to griff that up to try to make america better. i appreciate the fact that you would engage in the process. it's exciting for me. i took off nine days from work and i said use me. i thought i would be putting up signs or licking envelopes or mailing stuff, instead they put
me in front of a crowd. i tell people i got out of politics for health reasons, the voters got sick of me. i appreciate the fact. young people you coming out. i got invited as a small child and my parents would take me around and said we want you to formulate your own opinions but expose you to the different candidates and different policy and visions. never did i think in my wildest deems i would meet a president or candidate for president or a governor. and so as citizens of iowa, you have the unique opportunity much like we do in south carolina. you get to see all of them. it's really unique experience for small rural states that both of us share. i don't know how far out the governor is. they told me he is coming n. oh, is he? i heard one of the folks from the news media saying most of the time politicians will only answer expected questions.
throw governor huckabee a curable. he's not scared of them. i have been with him on the stump. and i have seen him answer any question. throw out the toughest question. see where he stands. his answers have not changed since 2008 or every different part of the state we have been to. and we have been all over the state. you get to see the depth of an ndividual when you can throw him something different. i have a great relationship with win rockefeller and governor huckabee and see how effective someone can be. when you look at the legislature and it was about 85% democrat majority in arkansas, to get things done in those conditions is extremely difficult and so it speaks
volumes for the fact -- there were over 100 tax cuts, they improved roads, education, quality of life and improved the actual annual income over those years. look who is here. [applause] looks like everybody is done about eating. everybody wants to eat off of clean plates but not a whole lot of people want to do the dishes. dishes require work. that is a man who is willing to work for the people. i'm excited about his candidacy. i hope you will be, too. [applause] >> my friend and people of iowa's friend, governor mike
huckabee. mr. huckabee: thank you, and ray. this is packed in and i don't know if you can see but we had a big surprise as i walked in, i found out my three-year-old granddaughter is here. scarlet, can you wave at everybody. there you go. you are all dismissed. i'm going to go play with my granddaughter. we were told she was going to get to come and my daughter said no. she has not had a fever. she's fine. she just did that to disappoint us and then today bless us tremendously by having her show up. my day just got a lot better. are you going to eat that? i'm kidding. i promise i'm kidding. if it stays there the rest of the time, it's going to be gone, i'm telling you now.
it looks really good. i keep looking around on everybody's plate and when we finish here, i'll dismiss all of you. let me say thanks for crowding into jeff's pizza place in ames. we are a few days away from the caucuses. i'm grateful to have friends from around the country who have come to show their support. the former lieutenant governor of south carolina. a great friend and public servant and spent his career as lieutenant governor primarily working on policies for seniors and he was very committed and dedicated to the task. a true public servant. later, you will meet the secretary of state from alabama who has also come. we have brought all these southern boys up here and introduced them to what what snow really looks like. we have been living with it in january and december and i don't know how you get used to
it. when i would hear on television, people in the north would say some person had a heart attack shoveling snow. and i thought really, shoveling snow. why would you shovel snow? and i always thought those crazy yankees are shoveling snow. don't they know it will melt tomorrow. in the south we never got it and then it would melt. people out there shoveling snow, why would they do that. up here, it doesn't go way. >> just like your deficit. mr. huckabee: it never goes away and keeps piling and higher and at the end of the obama term it will be $20 trillion. just a few days away from the iowa caucuses, i want to encourage you. if you are going to caucus for
me and if you do, i hope you will fill out this form and say i commit to caucus with mike. and if you are going to do that, take a friend or relative, someone from work, a neighbor and make sure they go with you to caucus for me. don't let anything keep you away. i don't care how bad the weather is, if it is snow or colder, whatever it is, go and caucus for me. if, however, you are thinking about caucusing for one of those other 320 people running on the republican ticket, i would encourage you to stay home that night, because it's cold out there and the snow is going to be falling and could be dangerous and treacherous. watch it on television, do not risk getting out in that
terrible weather. we are doing 150 events in january here in iowa. we are doing that because i don't believe there is a shortcut to winning the iowa caucus. if there is, it will change forever the future of the caucus, but it's not iowa that loses if that happens. america loses. and here's why. i think the worst thing that has happened in the process of politics is that a handful of billionaires now control virtually every campaign and ultimately control the agenda of congress in washington. and three magic words that i can tell you that will help you get through the complexities of olitics. i urge you to member rise these three words, follow the money. follow the money. if you wonder why things don't change many. why republicans and democrats
are in power. things roll all along the ame. borrowing money, taking care of the special interests, having no clue whatsoever that people in the heartland in america are experiencing. i met a man last week came to my event. he and his wife make $59 a year. guess what -- $59,000. guess what their health insurance is going to cost them in 2016? how much? >> $20,000. >> $15,000. >> $30,000. mr. huckabee: sounds like an auction. $28,000. you split the difference here. there is no prize. you get to pay that guy's insurance. $59,000 a year.
he is spending half of his income. no children at home. no special pre-existing conditions or diseases. how can he afford that? this is what our country is coming to. i meet people every day in iowa who used to have a good job at maytag and newton and those jobs got shipped to mexico and never found a replacement job. we lost too many manufacturing jobs. 60,000 plants like the maytag plant have closed. 'm telling you now when people are fully financed by the folks on wall street and the billionaires and the goldman sachs. i don't care what they ake. no matter what they say in
their speeches, i guarantee you when they get to office, they will carry out the same policies that have cost a lot of americans their jobs, fortunes and retirements and those of you on social security, we may have to cut your benefits and raise the age you have to work without even understanding they don't understand what social security is. it is not an entitlement, it is not welfare, but an earned benefit that you paid for when you worked. and every time you got a paycheck, somebody took something out of your paycheck. you are nodding your heads. and i can remember some of my paychecks. i would have enjoyed keeping it, but they took it away. they said don't worry, we are taking this money from your paycheck so you can put it aside so when you retire, you can have your social security. it's not the government's
money, it's yours. and when people are oblivious to that and say maybe people should work until their 72, that's great for a person who has sat at a desk for his or her career. i know a lot of people who have stood on concrete floors their entire working floors and you ask them to stand another six or seven years on those concrete floors you have given them a death sentence or pretty much put them in a wheelchair. and people making these kind of comments have no idea what people are having to do to make ends meet in america. i'm convinced of one thing, the people of iowa will make up their own minds as to who is going to win next monday night. every day i have to listen to the talking heads, the people on the east coast sitting in well-lit studios and they know who is going to be first,
second, third. they have it all figured it out. nd one thing they have forgotten, nobody in iowa has even voted yet. not one person. you will go and vote next week. and you will decide and every four years and every four years forgotten, nobody in iowa has there's a big surprise in the iowa caucus. i'm trusting you to help provide a big surprise next monday night when you go to caucus for me. and if you don't go caucus for me. where will you be? >> at home. mr. huckabee: we are making great progress. this is already a very productive day. i also -- i want to tell you about this little sticker for your car. take one of these and put it on your car.
it will let your friends know how smart you are. but the second reason is we are getting reports when people put these stickers on their car, they are getting gas mileage. i cannot guarantee you will get those results but try it for a week and see whether or not that works. i'm going to take some questions from you in a moment. i want a friend of mine to comment and just visit with you. i have folks from alabama and south carolina and arizona. friends from arkansas, dave and debbie. david was a legislator when i was governor. he was one of 15 republicans in a house of 100 people. he understands what it was like for me to govern in a state
that was at some point 90% democrat and he knows what i did to fight the clinton political machine and to do it repeatedly to keep winning and witness to the fact that not only did i challenge the political machine of the clintons, but i'm standing here as living proof that i live to tell about it. and that may be very significant of all. so if you want someone who can challenge hillary clinton in the election, i hear some of the republicans say, i can't wait to take on hillary. that's because you have never done it. but i have one other special friend i want to introduce to you. you have seen him on the television show "home mprovement" and "santa clause" and he is a great friend, you'll get the accent that he robably from new york. maybe that will come through
loud and clear. some of his friends as he will tell you. but i'm so delighted. great friend and traveling here in iowa going around with us and campaigning with us and i wanted him to come because sometimes in campaigns we take things so seriously, we forget to laugh a little bit and we need laughter in our lives. i said i'm mike huckabee running for president. and they said, yeah, we were just laughing about that a moment ago. to give you some real good fun and i'll take some of your questions and talk about the issues of iowa, jim, would you come up here. [applause] mr. huckabee: and be nice to hese people. >> this is italian. this smells good. i'm italian.
no offense, i have been sitting here for five minutes because italian people if we don't eat 11 minutes, it's all over. can i have a bite? thank you very much. what? you don't take a lunch break. that's good. i thought that was mine. can somebody order me a diet coke? any "home improvement" fans? i'm tim allen. i put on a few pounds. i'm on a new diet. this is where you hide people
like me in the witness rotection program. how do you hire a guy like me on the farm? yeah, what do i do? 'm a farmer. i bury things. thank you, sir. can you around. i come from one of those new york city that we had a lot of crime but no one heard or saw anything. and no matter how you got killed, it was an always heart attack. what is going on here. the guy grabbed his chest and fell on it 17 times. i'm up here and you're writing. eez, don't stare at my pizza. this is good. do you work for the f.b.i. you know what f.b.i. stands
for? forever bothering italians. thank you, sweetheart. can you sit with this guy. no matter where we're fun. we all have something in ommon. you know what that is? stupidity. we all do the same stupid things. why is it when you are driving your car and looking for an address, you have to turn the radio down? does it make you see better. honey, we are lost, turn the radio down. there it is. you ever drive in your car and the needle is on e. you get real quiet. don't look at the gauge. and turn the radio down, i don't want to get lost. this smells bad.
taste this. what the hell are you writing? you could have wrote the independence. look at the small writing. anybody read chinese? ou are a good sport. give me a diet coke. before i leave folks. i have to tell you this is jeff's pizza -- what are you frayed of jeff -- afraid of jeff? what happened to the chef here last week. he is in the back with the other chef. i'm kind of getting nervous. i'm here because i was on his how three years ago and in
2008, i didn't know who he was and even me and my wife. and getting to know the governor the last few years what i know about him. i'm honored to be here because this guy, the other people, what you get what you see is maybe not what you are going to get. and one of those guys is from my neighborhood because i could have mel whacked. what you see is what you get. he is real and believes in his faith. he is a christian. hard to believe, right? jesus said let's count those votes again.
i'm honored to be here. this man is the real deal. this is the real america. everybody thinks it's new york and l.a., no, this is where it's at right here. this is the hope we've got. i say this sincerely from my heart, from god, to me, to you guys, my personal belief,s the reagan of our era right here. this is the reagan we need right now. please, just support him, i'm honored to be your friend, i love him he, brought me a turkey roaster, i'm going to do the fivers, you put the turkey in the grease, watch cnn i'm
probably going to be blowing up. make sure you vote for him, i'm going to follow each and every one of you to the polls. we don't want any heart attacks. god bless you guys, god bless our next president, mike huckabee. [applause] mike: jim will buy you an entire pizza to replace the slice he just devoured. i'm so grateful to have friends with traveled at their own expense to be here. talk to your friends, explain how important it is that iowa makes a decision not based on the money but on the message and the future of our country. but i've got to ask, why am i running? i did walk away from what was a pretty decent life after, gee, almost 20-something plus years of hardball, tough politics in
a state where republicans never got elect and i was on the -- only the fourth one to be elected in 150 years and the first in 25 year the only one at the capital -- capitol, the one who when -- who when he got to his office, had it nailed shut for 59 days before i could get in had to deal with the most lopsided legislature in all the country, more than massachusetts, or maine or vermont or new jersey. then after the 2008 election, ended up doing a television show, getting back to my first job, which was in radio, doing a radio commentary. why would i do this? quite frankly, you saw 20% of the reason just a moment ago when you saw my little granddaughter. because i have five grandkids. she's one of the five. and i'm doing it because i worry about the country we're about to hand to them. you see, i was so blessed to live in this nation but even more blessed to have parents
and grandparents who made incredible sacrifices so that the country they gave to me was better than the one they grew up in. my parents group in the depression. i feel like sometimes i did because they told me so much about it, i honestly thought i'd lived through it as well. some of you know that feeling from having parents who told you about it. but i want you to understand, i did not grow up wealthy. i did not grow up well-connected. my mother grew up, oldest of seven children in a house that didn't have a floor, just dirt. no electricity, no running water. my father never graduated high school. his father didn't and his father before him didn't. no male upstream from me had ever graduated from high school. i'm the first male in my lineage to do it. much less go to college. when i was a kid my dad used to say, son, don't look very far up the family tree. there's some stuff up there you don't need to see. of course i had to welcome and found out the old man was
right, there was some stuff up there i didn't need to see. but my parents and grandparents gave me a much better america and a much better opportunity in life than they had had. but what we're about to turn over to the people of my children and more importantly my grandparents' era, is -- is a country so deep into debt that most of their paychecks will go to pay interest on the debt. a country that if they can afford to go to college, they'll have to take out huge loans and they never be able to pay them back. a country that's ship sod many jobs to mexico, to china, to indonesia and elsewhere. that they may never enjoy the level of opportunity and an optimistic view of having employment options that many of us have had. and i'm going to tell you something, i feel like i owe something to my parents and grandparents for the sacrifices they made. and i feel like i owe something
to my grandchildren. and i don't want to sacrifice their future for my own comfort. this selection about getting america back on track, monetarily so we can grow the economy again and make it where americans who work get something for that. it's about getting this country back on track, militarily. so that we rebuild a very decimated military that now has half the number of ships that my grandfather knew in world war i when he served on a u.s. navy destroyer. half the -- the smallest number of troops that we've had since before pearl harbor. and in our air force, we have people flying b-52's right now that are older than i am. in fact, there's an air force pilot flying a b-52 that his father flew in the 1980's and his grandfather flew the same airplane in the 1950's.
and we need to have the kind of mill tear force that's the strongest we've ever had in the history of the country was that's the way we make it so our sons and daughters have don't have to go to war. have a military nobody wants to fight. but in addition to getting things back in step, monetarily and militarily, let me unapologetically say we have to get this country back morally. we can't be a great country if we're not a good country. we can't be a good country if we don't understand that what made us a great country, was that we were a god and generous people and up until the last several generations and certainly decades, we were a people that didn't need a big government because we had big hearts and we took care of our families and our friends and our neighbors. i'm convinced that while we rail against big government and talk about how they take 50
cents of every dollar we earn, which is indeed tragic if those of us who call ourselves followers of christ, if we would just give a dime out of a dollar that we earn in what ought to be our bare minimum obligation as believers, and if we took care of the needy, the widow, the orphan, through our churches and through our generosity, we would do more with a dime out of each dollar from our tithes than the government would do with 50 cents out of each dollar we earn and that's how you get government smaller, you make our hearts and our charity bigger. and we would solve a whole lot more of the issues of poverty than we ever will with government programs that entrap people in poverty and never let them out. let me take some of your questions, and i'll do my best to answer them or make you think i am.
we'll see which way it goes. yes, sir. >> my name is robert, i'm a student at the university across the street. i'm also a believer. i want to bring up the issue of the younger generation because i have seen not only in the secular world, in the university, but also at my own church and in various other churches, there seems to be a disillusionment or ignorance or hostility toward conservative beliefs. on the christian side i think a lot of it is -- a lot of issues you brought up. we talk about, like, moral values, particularly the sanctity of marriage, but we're totally silent when no fault divorce was made legal, there was no movement to save marriage from divorce. how do we, particularly with our evangelical younger people,
how do we get them back and admit, yeah we kind of, on the marriage issue, we missed it. mike: that's a great question, how do we get young people interested, not just politically, but morally, getting our country back. robert says he's an evangelical and wants to make sure young people growing up in the church have a sense of perspective, that they're involved he mentions the difference between how many people rail against same-sex marriage but said nothing about the growing divorce rate among traditional married couples in the church. i think robert is right. quite frankly, one of the reasons that the couldn't vi in is because those of us who are professing believers, we've not
been the salt and the light that we are called to be. there's a difference between being a thermometer and a thermostat. a thermometer reads the temperature of whatever the room is and reflects the temperature. most of the time, culture is a reflection. it doesn't change people, people change the culture. when we live as thermometers and when we elect people in political offices who are thermometer, they'll take a poll, find out what people think and believe and reflect what people think and believe. what we really need in america, we need thermostats. the purpose of a thermostat is, it can read the temperature but its purpose is to adjust the temperature. as a musician i understand that if i'm going to tune my guitar, i don't tune the tuning fork to the guitar, i tune the guitar to the tuning fork. you have a standard and you adjust your instrument to the standard. you don't adjust the standard to the instrument. what happens is, when we try to
change the truth, the eternal truth of what's right and what's wrong, this is why i say there's a moral issue here, when we try to move the moral standards to meet culture, it's as ridiculous as trying to tune the tuning fork to the instrument rather than tuning the instrument to the tuning fork. i'm an evangelical, but one of my greatest heroes in the world was pope john paul ii. he was being interviewed and someone asked, can you ex-plin how the church can be more relevant, how it can change its views and positions because it's so south of step with culture? don't you think the church should modernize and be more progressive? and the pope said to the reporter who was interviewing him, when the question was raised don't you think the church should change its standards, the pope's response
was, he said, my son, the church is the standard. i thought, what a brilliant answer, i wish i'd said it. but since i did, i'll attribute the quote. >> what about the power of money in the political system. one thing in the country, people feel powerless, disillusioned buzz of the incredible concentration of wealth which has accelerated dramatically in the last decades. what's your tax policy? what are your ideas about tax reforms? mike: the question is, how can we do a real different tax policy, tax reform that would empower people at the bottom? and the reason i'm a passionate
advocate for the fair tax is because that's exactly what it would do. the fair tax would transform the tax from punishing our productivity by taxing everything we do that's product i, whether it's our work or investment or save, even inheritance we wish to pass along in the form of a farm or business and tax that at point of consumption. people say that would be a regressive tax. it would be except a provision in the tax that untaxes people for their necessities. with the fair tax, the people in the bottom third of the economy, benefit the most by 14% or 15% over where they are today. the people in the middle of the economy benefit 7% or 8% and the people at the top are still better off but only by 4% or 5%. instead of being a regressive tax, it's not. here's what happens. today our tax system punishes the guy who wants to work harder and get ahead. give you an example, i met a guy in a machine shop in new
hampshire. e's an eight-hour day guy, works on his feet, in ha machine shop, doing it since he got out of high school. his daughter is in grad school. he said, i didn't want her to go into a big student debt soy started working a double-shift, 16 hours a day. he wanted to get the second shift totally to his daughter. ok, i'm working 16 her, i'm working a double-shift, i'll get a double paycheck. guess what, when he got his first paycheck from the double-shift he, didn't get a double amount of pay because working double meant he got bumped into a new tax bracket and the government got as much of his second shift as he did system of rather than him benefiting double for double work, the government benefited from his double work he, didn't. folks, fundamentally wrong. so when we're talking about a tax policy, we ought to make it so that that tax policy helps the people at the bottom, not just the people at the top. the people at the top pay a lower rate of tax than the people who are working for a wage.
people working for a wage will pay the highest tax rate. theoretically. people who are living off passive income and the greatest wealth in the country is concentrated on those getting their money off passive income, investments, rather than a wage, and the result is that tax rate is effectively higher and more stiff far guy working on the factory floor than it is for the big global investors who can move their country -- their money all over the world to protect it from the tax code. many of them don't pay any tax because they've been able to use good accountants and good lawyers to get out of of it. guess what? who's paying their share? you are. everybody pays tack when you buy something at the retail level. it's very transparent but transformative to the economy. that's what i would do let me tell you something else it does. you want to deal with the illegal immigration issue, have you ever wondered why
republicans nor democrats ever deal wit and fix it? i can tell you why. goes back to my three magic words of politics, what were think they? ollow the money. here's how. there's an economic advantage in hiring an illegal. robert if i hire you and you're an american and i pay you $12 an hour, i'm sure you're worth more than that, but we'll take things out of your paycheck for income tax, payroll tax, social security, medicare, so on. if i hire you and you're an illegal immigrant, i don't think you are, but i do need to see your green card just to make sure but if i hire you and you're an illegal immigrant and i pay you $, i'm exploiting your hour by $4 an hour, underpaying what i would have to pay him. you're not going to tell anybody because you'd get in trouble. so you're going to keep your mouth shut. there's another reason you're not going to tell. at $ an hour you keep more
money in your pocket than he made at $12 because nothing is coming out of your paycheck. as the employer, not only have i cheated you by $4 an hour, cost you your job, i'm pocketing the 7.5% employer portion of the payroll tax which means 15% of what you would have been paid and what i was paying in doesn't fund your social security or your medicare and if you wonder why we keep underfunding it, it's because we have so many people cheating and we have fewer people paying in and it's part of the shortfall. so if you want to fix illegal immigration, change the rules so that we don't make it economically advantageous to hire an illegal. that's part of what needs to happen. i saw another hand. yes, sir. did you get your pizza back? >> yes, i did. thank you very much. medical care is a complicated issue but i want to ask one question about it. i've read that pharmaceuticals from -- that one can guy in
other couldn't res such as canada and europe are cheaper than they are here but most of the research and many of the medications are made here. why is it cheaper there? mike: there are a few reasons. one is the money has to be recovered before the drug can ecome je for the ex. second, the pharmaceutical manufacturer in the u.s. has to set aside billions because if somebody has an issue with a drug, it could be 1 years later, but if they have an issue with the drug, the liability from lawsuits is such that they have to protect hemselves.
now i'm not trying to let big harma off the hook here. boy, did they make a nice keel with obama on obamacare. padded them nicely. but the importation of canadian drugs would be a great benefit to a lot of american consumers. but let's try to make it more permanent by having a situation where we limit and put a cap on punitive damage, not actual damages because i think if a person is truly injured by medical malpractice that's one thing but punitive damages can drive the cost disproportionately. also make it so that there is a reasonable way in which somebody who does spend a lot
of money developing a drug will be a el to recover those costs so they have incentive to go back and develop more. and if it's a drug that really does benefit the country, maybe the government should just buy it out a one-time, $100 billion, we buy the drug, it's now hour, we'll it to you at $1 a pill. as president i would declare war on the four big cost driving diseases in this country. i often get asked what would you do different any -- differently in obama care. there's a lot of things i'd do differently but from a big picture perspective, most of our cost in the health care system are because we're paying for the cost of chronic disease. in fact it's 5%, 85% of the over $2 trillion in the health care system is chronic los angeles. -- chronic disease. i'd say within a decade we're going to find cures to cancer, heart disease, diabetes and alzheimer's rm these four diseases. now i know there are a lot of
other diseases but these four drive the biggest bulk of the health care $s in america. and we would approach it with the same intensity that we did the moon landing in the 1980's, and we would try to see the same results as we saw when polio was eradicated in my childhood. folks, i remember standing at the courthouse lawn in hope, arkansas, as a little kid, three sunday afternoons in a row, getting my polio vaccine so i wouldn't have to wear leg braces like older kids in town or have to go to the iron lung. do you know how much we spent on polio in america last year? nothing. because we eradicated it, cured it. we saved hundreds of billions of dollars because we don't have to treat polio. thank god for that imagine with me what it would be if we found a cure that would event -- either prevent or cure heart disease, alzheimer's dirke bee tees, cancer. it would transform not only the health care system but the economy of america. >> being surrounded by great ag
land, crop raise, i'd like to hear how you came about being so pro-ethanol. mike: question about ethanol. let me begin by saying it's really, really rare when the government comes up with an idea that works. agreed? usually the government comes up with something that fails. this time they came up with an idea, to create ethanol standards so we would move to greener and cleaner fuels, that we would use something sustainable and that was renewable, and that would be able to help reduce our dependence upon foreign oil which we were depending a lot on, particularly middle eastern oil which by the way when we bought it, it funded the very people who teach the terrorists how to hate and kill us. so it looked like a reasonable idea system of the government put a renewable fuel standard
which meant that over the course of the next several years, we have to going blend into our fuel renewable fuels. so because the government created that mandate, billions of dollars were spent building the infrastructure to refine the ethanol that came from plants like you've got a lot of corn up here, i don't know if you've noticed that or not but thriving through in the summertime, let me assure you, you've got a lot of corn up here. there are times i've driven three hours in iowa and all i've seen is cornfields the entire time. here's the thing about ethanol. it used to be when the corn was harvested, the kernels were used for either the production of oil or feed, but the husk and the stalks all thrown away. it was just waste. those husks and stalks are now turned into ethanol. by being turned into ethanol,
it becomes a renewable fuel, something to wasted, stabilizes the crop for the farmer, gives him a substantially better marketplace for his fuels, the people who go to work in the industry of refining, 75,000 jobs all told in iowa that are somehow related to ethanol. but here's the best thing. this is a government mandate that worked. it's cleaner. it's greener. the octane in ethanol is higher than traditional fuel. i'll give you an example. how many of you knew that every nascar vehicle runs exclusively on ethanol? who knew that? couple of us. do you think nascar is putting it in their vehicles because it helps make their cars slow ore less efficient? of course not. now there are some candidates who don't support the renewable fuel standards. they want your vote for president. and polls show that some of them are leading and doing well here. help me understand why would iowa vote for someone who doesn't understand, appreciate,
and will not support a program that helps iowa farmers make sure they have a good market for their crops that reduces dependence on foreign oil that helps reward the people who invested billions into the infrastructure of ethanol, why would anybody vote for someone who will help potentially cost iowa 75,000 jobs and make your neighbors feint upon you to make up for their lost jobs? folk that would be like coming to my state of arkansas and suggest that can people quit shopping at wal-mart and that nobody ought to ever eat rice or chicken again. you'll be wearing chicken feathers on top of the tar that will be poured all over you if you were to come to arkansas and suggest that because you would be in essence insulting a large portion of the population of my state and the economy of it. so i would ask people of iowa, think very carefully, now if you think i'm pandering about ethanol, it's what i've consistently said.
it's also because i come from an agricultural state where over 75% of our entire state's economy is agriculture. i understand that the tai we don't have a strong agricultural foundation in our country is the day we quit being free. a country that doesn't feed itself, doesn't produce its own food and fiber, will be hostage to whoever is putting the food on its table. and we have the best, most efficient, safest food supply in the entire world and by golly, we need to keep it that way for the long-term benefit of my granddaughter and everybody else like her. ok, somebody else? yes, sir. >> i'd like to move our conversation back to health are. i think the woodstock agenda is ruining our health care. we go become to the 1960's, we know what woodstock. is now they're running our ealth care system.
it's destroying america. and i believe one of the most fundamental things america needs to do is stop pharmaceutical advertisement. you see a pharmaceutical advertisement, run to a doctor to give wru that drug, it's rug dealing. mike: you make a good point. when you first used the word woodstock, i'm think, that takes me back to the 1960's. i wasn't at woodstock, i want to make that very clear for all the people who are here. but i know about it. new york i remember when it happened, for sure. the sound track was great, i will say that.
but there's an important point here. the relationship of pharmaceuticals and the costs and how that figures into the health care system. somebody once observed that it's going to be very hard for us to ever balance the budget when 10,000 aging hippies retire a day and find out they can get free drugs on medicare part d. it's really a good kind of point to make. but what you point out, if you advertise drugs, and you tell people all the symptoms they might have and they self-diagnose and go to their doctor, they don't say, i've point to make. got a pain in my shoulder, they say, doctor, i think i need, and they name the drug. and the doctor is say, did you go to medical school in no, but i saw the ad, i'm pretty sure i know what i've got and what will fix it. and the balance between free marketplace, free speech and responsible health care is a tough one. bottom line in health care, if you don't have any interest in controlling the costs, we'll never control the costs. three things need to happen to replace obamacare. replace it with something
personal, portable and preventable and here's what i mean by that it's personal to you. your employer doesn't own your health insurance, you do. if you move, your health insurance moves with you. it's portable. it moves, you move. you own it. your employer doesn't own your car insurance, or your homeowners insurance, why should he own your health insurance? and the third thing is focused on prevention. you actually get rewarded for preventing or dealing with cures as opposed to just dealing with treatment. if your doctor takes seven visits before he correctly diagnoses your disease he, gets paid seven times. if he does it right the first time he only gets paid once. i'm not suggesting that doctors will unscrupulously misdiagnose the first six time, they won't. they're trying. but shouldn't we reward the doctors who got it right the first time? instead we punish them. rewarding them in essence less than we do the doctors ta took many, many repeated tries. ok let me take another final
question. anybody else? yes, sir. >> so i'm relatively new to iowa. i'm from the east coast, had my first encounter with evangelical christians and many of them whom i've met seem not to -- i do -- either do not believe in the theory of evolution or get a lot of facts wrong about it. i'm curious, as an evangelical if you do and if not how can i trust you when it comes to, you know anti-bacterial resistant mike robes, these things that are developing in hospitals. mike: let me see if i get this right, evangelicals, evolution, and microbiological nfections. >> because germs are evolving because they're becoming resistant to bacteria. mike: i'm going to try to put
that together. if the question is, how do i feel about the origins of the earth? i believe that in the beginning god created the heavens and the earth. how he did it, i honestly couldn't answer. i wasn't there the bible doesn't give me a lot of details, it gives me some, i have to assume he did it. how long did it take? i don't know. a year, a day, the same measurement that we -- i don't know. i just don't. but i don't think that this magnificent design we have of our earth and how our bodies function and how nature functions, i'm always just absolute awe of how nature works. and whether it's the animals who intuitively seem to know more than we do sometimes about when danger is come, i swear my dogs are smarter than we are, they sense things that we don't. i know the human body is an incredible instrument that's just beyond my comprehension. i don't think anything of that level of design could be there
without a designer. i just don't. other people think it happened y itself, ok, i'm not going to argue with anybody over it. i just believe that it makes more sense, takes mess of a faith leap for me to believe that there is a designer to the design than to believe that everything i see in this magnificently ordered universe is a sheer accident. as it relates to things like very resistant strains of bacteria, look, i think we're living in a world that is always in a state of change. i mean, look, we can't deny that it's always in a state of change. and we see change not only in how things function, i mean, let's face it, people are taller than they used to be. people are heavier than they sed to be.
e might be able to control that. but we're taller. you know. things are -- we're just different. there's a certain level of undisputable change. and some of that is that we developed drugs that are supposed to help us and pretty soon we get where we're immune to them and they don't work anymore, people have to come up with something new. i think that's part of the cycle and circle of life. again, i marvel at how it all works. i don't have the answers to all of that. i really don't. and anybody who tells you that they do, let me know who they are because i've never met anyone that smart. i'm not a dumb guy, i'm not the smartest guy in the world but i'm smart enough to know this. i know what i don't know. you know who the person you need to be afraid of, especially electing a person president? be very afraid of the guy who doesn't know what he doesn't
know. that's the guy who'll get you killed. the guy who doesn't know what he doesn't know will believe that he knows things that he doesn't know and he will put you in danger that you don't have to be in. one needs to surround himself or herself with people who can fill in the gaps and i had to do that as a governor, 10 and a half -- 10 1/2 years i served, i never assumed i was oh the only person who knew anything. i wanted a cabinet of people not necessarily who agreed with everything i believed, i want people who knew things that i didn't know. and in the midst of a crisis i wanted them to tell me what they knew that i didn't know. because you can't manage a crisis without good information. and i can't win the caucus without your vote. and i'm going to go through this one more time. monday, inhope you're going to go caucus for me. that's a smart, reasonable, thoughtful thing to do. and all the smart people here will in fact do that. you'll fill out this card and you will tell us that by say, i commit to caucus for mike. if you are, again, for some unreasonable reason, not going o do that, where will you be monday night?
home. my gosh, this has been a productive and lovely day. thank you guys very much. i appreciate you coming out today. thank you very much. [applause] thank you. you are stuck over there, do ou realize that? >> like i said, the sound track was terrific. how are you doing? thank you very much for being ere today. thank you for coming. appreciate it.