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eastern before washington journal. >> on tuesday, the present the unit -- european parliament discussed efforts to combat the islamic state and other terrorist groups following the recent attacks in brussels. intelligencessed sharing, islamic radicalization and the migration crisis in europe. as of the first hour of the debate. -- this is the first hour of that debate.
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>> the minutes have been circulated. any objections? those minutes are adopted. we now move to the first item. a statement from council and commission on counterterrorism following the recent terrorist attacks. i will give the floor first. present. >> thank you. members,, honorable european response is required to the horrific terrorist attacks we witnessed in brussels on march 22. our citizens are right to expect concrete action to counterterrorism from the government and the eu. obviously we share your strong will to fight terrorism as well
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-- as was expressed by your representatives on march 24, she said europe will not bow to terrorism. our unity and determination to uphold our rights are only made stronger. action must cover every aspect of the threat from prevention to perception and prosecution. and right she is. the eu must build a internal security policy that protects human rights for it as code, parliament has a key role to play. for example, strengthening border controls and security and information sharing is key to ensure freedom of movement without internal border controls. index -- external security are interwoven. in other words, internal and external security can no longer be kept separate.
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an integrated approach is needed. to give you a brief update -- immediately after the attacks, we had a meeting on march 24. present.idents were the ministers reach their colleagues about the effects. ministers in a joint segment condemned to be attacks, and extended sympathy to the victims and their families and our support and solidarity to belgium. they also sent out a number of priority areas for action, building on the efforts of a which are ready underway. from scratch.t terrorism has been on the agenda for years. since they forefront terrorist attacks in january of 2015.
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considerable progress has been made towards a limitation as set out by the eu counterterrorism court nader and his latest report of march, 2016. more needs to be done. we need tor states usage ofconsistent different databases and the -- we need to make optimal meet -- use of the tools we have. views of the databases is crucial. , the presidency is withtaken work to improve the objective to agree on a number of actions in june. secondly, as of january 1 this year, the european counterterrorism center is
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operational. they have been up by france and belgium to support the investigations after the paris attacks and the brussels attacks. they are discovering links across the eu. not only information collection and sharing, but also the amenities. therefore at the meeting on march 24, investors decided to joint team of national counterterrorism experts to support law enforcement in investigating the current threat. thirdly, special attention will begin into the commission communication on borders which was issued last week. the eu information system is a priority for the presidency. that customs,t
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police, and law enforcement officials can quickly and effectively consult our databases. privacy will play a key role moving forward on this. parliament's role will be important once again. ambitiousency wants results in june. roadmap with concrete deliverables, databases, information sharing, and the use of the information systems will be prepared for the june meeting. there is more that we can do. together we need to speed up negotiations of spending legislation. i am referring to the firearm directive and terrorism directive, as well as the targeted amendments about systematic controls of eu citizens exporters. -- at borders.
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we present these measures as well as repress these measures to effectively counterterrorism. that is why it is also important ofprogress on prevention radicalization. as you know, the radicalization groups are sharing practices. the internet is developing full operational capacity in 2016. it has already made significant headway in corporation with internet companies to remove online terrorist material. we know there is a strong political will in parliament to make progress on counterterrorism measures. we share this determination and look forward to work -- working with you in order to advance as quickly and effectively as possible. thank you so much. >> thank you very much, madam mr.. -- minister. on behalf of the european commission. the president.
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mr. president of the european parliament. gentlemen, the orders.t do not respect once they are in europe they can strike either side. they are attacking our way of life and values. on the toy second of march they struck in belgium. -- on the 22nd of march, they struck in belgium. place where we live in harmony with our neighbors. we are in mourning. in those cowardly attacks we lost a young italian woman full of energy, intelligence, smart,
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fresh innd she will be our memories for a long time. let me pay tribute here to each and every one of the victims. let us have a thought for each of them. those lives are brought short. thanks to everyone who was injured, let's wish all of the best to their family and friends. i salute the daily work of all of those thanks to him you are able to -- whom we were able to resume a normal course of activities in a feeling of security. we make continued use of our freedom, particularly moving around in traveling. -- and traveling. it is income it on all of us to make available all of the necessary tools to ensure that everyone is able to go about
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business and do their jobs print that is what the commissioner has been working on for many months now to improve attacks on air passengers. checks on the external orders. -- borders. remembering secret service and the intelligence community. increaseential that we our game in terms of exchanging information. cooperation is strength. last week the commission brought forward a new proposal on the subject. in particular the way in which the present and future information system can be improved the management of external frontiers and thereby reinforce internal security in europe. we need to be aware that even as we speak, there are certain
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information systems at the eu level which provide the police forces intimate information about the movement of persons print for us, too often, when security matters are at stake, the problem is not so much a lack of instruments, but the approval to use existing tools and instruments. information is there. often --n drift off to too often, or arrives too late. we must have more interconnection. the truth is however, whatever the positive legislative work of the commission and whatever the backing and support of the european parliament, whatever the sophistication of the systems which we deploy, terrorism -- anti-terrorism will peopleeffective until
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cooperate with each other more and with the european agencies in particular. this is why, when we talk about combating terrorism, we must recognize no one can give lessons or lecture anyone, certainly not belgium. we cannot lecture belgium. it is a great country which has been sorely tried. no finger-pointing at belgium, please. theet us not forget this is first -- this is not the first time indiscriminate terrorism has struck in the heart of europe. it is a collective failure. we have beenow able to draw lessons from such attacks. i remember european councils in 1999 and then 2001. all of my good friends -- we
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swore that we would have a proper exchange of information between information services. now is the time for action. in the field of security and indeed in many other areas, --gmentation renders us europe needs a proper security union. i'm counting on the backing of this parliament to move into fruition all of the proposals the commissioners put forward and which could be the precursors of that union which i hope we will see materialize. --k to the attacks in paris they are -- there after the commission brought forward legislative and nonlegislative measures concerning firearms. it took six days for the commission to drop those
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proposals, now six months later, i cannot yet see -- it is important we move towards adoption thereof and the commission continues to work their way, even if we've not seen problems there. we will do so in the next few weeks to make sure that we can advance our security agenda. we will give an ambitious roadmap with its content for implementation. the commission will be counting on the cooperation of the union parliament and the council because they are talking here about the security and liberties of our citizens which is above all else, a common obligation, thank you very much. >> thank you very much. to -- ive the floor president,e
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president office. i am grateful for making it clear to us what we're talking about today. we're talking about the 37-year-old mother who leaves children behind. she was killed at the airport. the people who loved brussels and died in the metro. the young muslim teacher on her way to school. three cases, three innocent ustims and that happened to in our european city. what we need to do is to prevent this. we also need to say thank you to the firefighters who came to the place immediately after. they didn't know of the danger, but nevertheless. the people who spent hours overtime to help people. the policemen and soldiers who
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came in brussels and instruct burg to make sure -- strats to make sure that we are safe. i would like to thank everyone who protects europe. i would like to talk about the question of our responsibility. when we look at legislation, we need to do enough. colleagues, it is not enough what we are doing. more security means more cooperation within europe. the commission and the commission elsewhere can be assured they have the support when we are talking about the new agency. we need to prevent the secrecy of member states. that must reach an end. ministers of the interior are the ones responsible for making sure the review is kept underhand.
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for months we have been asking for information about passengers in airplanes. now we see after a lot of hard work on thursday, we are going to talk about it. something that is important for us to know. it is important -- it is interesting to know who regulates syria and afghanistan, we need that data. colleagues, we need more. we have an agreement with the americans. the banks that look at the finance for terror, why are we not doing this? wire we not in a position to find out our own data, to evaluate that, and find out how terror is financed. we don't have that possibility in europe. we have the americans working on behalf. we need to have standards in europe that we can be
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responsible for ourselves. see that people are volunteering when we are collecting information. be entitled to demand information from member states. this information should not be just voluntary. finally, the internet. it has lost its innocence. the internet is the -- on the internet you see hatred, you see new terrorist being acquired. we have agitation against principles. therefore the internet is now obliged to make sure there are rules applied to what we do on the internet. we need a structure that makes it clear. we need a sort of network, and authority that makes it clear what goes on there. we need a security agency. the commission would give
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support of the eee -- epp. finally, i would like to express my thanks. terroristn say is the want our way of living, freedom, the way we live, and so on, therefore what we have come up against is hatred. what we must to do -- what we must do is live the way we have always lived. to continue the way we think is right. thank you very much. [applause] >> mr. albert has a question. >> thank you. great respect. i agree with much of your remarks. you say as for the investigative authorities it is important to know who is coming into europe. we know how many -- we know that
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for seat placement on airplanes is called for. when it comes for the standards of the storage of that information that is essential for democracy. is that not just as important? i am speechless. we have a debate as europeans here. we have been challenged by terror. i'm amazed by the questions asked. we do one data protection -- want data protection. we see high levels of data protection. way of thegoing the americans when we talk about combating terrorism. we have our own solution. dataday's world we can see is powerful. why we need legal rights
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for authorities to have access to the information. that is why we need the nr. i'm grateful for the question because we can hear who is refusing to provide the data that the authorities need. >> the next speaker. behalf of the snd mr. patella. >> thank you, president. sadly, onast year, all too many occasions, this house has found itself having to debate terrorism. of course there is a risk of disillusionment. cannot allow ourselves to get used to terrorism. so many others have lost their lives.
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life is sacred. basis for modern society. i am saying this because if we are to fight terrorism, first and foremost we have to asking ourselves howsk it is possible that our children can have denied the very heart of our civilization. i know this is a delicate argument -- behind this ideology of death, we should not be looking for islam. rather than to looking into radical islam, we should be phenomenon ofhe the radicalization of islam. islam itself is an origin of peace. this ideology is based rather on a desperate type of radicalism. phenomenonn of the
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do with to multiculturalism. under the label of multiculturalism very often people take a different approach. there is a concept that men and women from different origins cannot live together, but need to separate themselves out into distinct social groups. we have to tackle that. the first way to respond to these attacks is to look at what unites us, and assert a citizenship which entails right, but also values and duties we share. that line of thinking must be put into action. first and remost, the national government must wield the existing instruments such as dna data exchange, fingerprint data
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exchanges, and fighting terrorism. intelligence and investigation. europe, sadly is lagging behind on that front. the terrorist are united and we are responding in divided ranks. we need to rely on european intelligence. -- a type of coordination but a real network of information with european counterterrorism public prosecutor able to fight terrorism right across europe. alsove to be determined to in our foreign policy. whatwatching closely others are doing. we need to be serene. isis is there because it is part
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of a cynical game of regional interest. if we are to fight isis we need to start by fighting those who are buying oil from isis which it acquires in the areas it took over. we cannot have people attacking isis on the one hand while at the same time doing business with those who are funding it. wand tous has a magic do away with terrorism. but we can all be cohesive and work together in humility and unity. [applause] >> thank you. the question for you. >> speaking. >> apparently i was totally had a question for you -- told i had
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a question for you. it is rather sad that it is often in moments like this that we as a chamber come together. we come together to condemn the acts we have seen over the last few months, in fact years in many of our countries. after each attack we have questions. if you days after the brussels attacks, a man in my constituency tweeted how he had confronted a muslim woman in south london and asked her to explain brussels. his tweet upset a lot of people. applied,witter user what has a muslim woman in south london have to do with those of vents in belgium -- those horrific events in belgium? it demonstrates that we are all looking for answers. we all want to explain brussels. a city we know so well. -- last month i
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opened a conference in the european parliament organized by the iran foundation on tackling extras and the -- extremism. while people in the chamber called for more european agencies to solve these problems, none of the speakers or the experts present claimed there was a single solution or metaphorical silver bullet. instead they spoke about the need to tackle terrorism on various levels. international. militarily. and using diplomacy. as well as the local community level to tackle extremism at the root. we spoke about the drivers of terrorism. some searching for an identity or a sense of belonging. others radicalized in prison. some find individuals looking for a new cause. others with grievances. more others all marble --
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vulnerable to a world of temptation. as we clear about what we mps can do? new we can vote for a system. yes we can encourage intelligence to work together. this will only happen if they can trust each other to feel come -- competent enough to share information, not forced. for those of us who represent constituencies where young people have been wrecked -- radicalized, allow me to suggest one more thing. at a conference last month, i tuff project from london to speak about how they harnessed the power of football to give a sense of team spirit and instill values to guest or's -- youngsters.
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i met a young lady who told me she almost went to syria, after being recruited by social media. the project founder, when he found out, made a few phone calls and gave her the choice of going through the gate of the airport to syria, or the gate of the stadium of the premier league team. when she arrived at the stadium, she was so overcome she knelt down. through her express, she encourages others to not be recruited. think about how much death and destruction that one act prevented. as the founder said, one of the best ways to counterterrorism is to prevent people from coming -- becoming terrorist. there must be similar projects in many of our cities that we can encourage fred if not, let me know. will come to your town or city to he set up a similar project. while we cannot explain brussels, we might be able to help stop more attacks. -- andng security law
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law enforcement agencies whatever tools we can in a free and open society. by supporting projects that stop young people from becoming terrorist. notall of us saying we will drive more people into the arms of extremist. we will not let the terrorists win. [applause] >> thank you. another question. >> thank you very much. last year in paris, a young romanian couple was shot dead, sitting at a table in paris. they had a center to counterterrorism in hog -- hague . 45 or 50 people.
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it was a small measure. the union needs a real urgency to counterterrorism with special intelligence. troops toti-terrorism be pulled together by the member states to fight this terrible situation. >> thank you very much. >> thank you for your question, the answer is no. what we need is a better share of intelligence. when you speak to intelligence experts, they say actually, when they are candid, they do not have confidence in the intelligence services of other countries. had we make sure we build that trust so the intelligence can be shared? let us get away from whatever the problem is the solution is more european agencies. if we sit on these, we will ignore the young people in many communities who have been radicalized at grassroots levels. we have ignored this because we want to make grand speeches in
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this chamber about solutions. is encourageto do these organizations to learn from each other and come together. for what he cannot do is use it as an excuse to have yet more of what happened in brussels. >> first thing, what i want to do is to thank you for your words to our country, to belgium. him, what we with have not to do is to repeat strong words, the moment is there to act. through a number of changes. i agree fully. it is the opposite of what he said. it is a fragmentation, who is the problem in europe. yeah, policeg -- and intelligence has to work better together. we hear that already.
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that so-called recipe. it is not a recipe. we need european capacity. that is the lesson from history. the federal bureau of investigation was created in 1901 after a terrorist attack where president mckinley was killed. they decided to do so. in germany, exactly the same story. it was upgraded and created as a federal agency after a terrorist attack. that was their lesson from history. it is time that your group is also taking that lesson. create european capacity and european capabilities to solve the problem. let's be honest, let's face the reality, i have heard the long list of all terrorist attacks in the last year. in madrid, they were known by frenchnch and police --
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and british police. in london, they were followed and personally arrested by the french police. in the museum-- in brussels, it was a french terrorist who is known i french authorities and by germans. the same story. they were known by the british authority before the attacks. with others because the french did not have it in their files. with the germans a few weeks before the attacks, they found weapons and did not inform the french colleagues. the same now again in the attacks in brussels where apparently the swedish got information and have not sent it to belgian authorities. how many attacks are there needed before everybody
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understands that we need on the european level a real investigation capacity. [applause] , we have the possibility to do so. terrorist do not know borders. it is only our police services, and our intelligence service who know borders. we have the possibility now. we have the possibility to change that, to build that up because we have the file. we have finished a second reading. my proposal is to use this reading between parliament and council to do a few amendments. again butay immediately in the coming weeks. first of all,s -- changing regulation of article one and three and given the possibility for an investigation capacity, not only coordination.
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my second proposal is that in article six of the regulation, we get finally to the possibility to launch an investigation or to oblige national authorities to do so. they don't even have that possibility today. finally, maybe the most important article seven of the regulation, today, the national authorities of europe have to filter the information towards europe. i thought it was the opposite? to transfer the relevant data to europe? my proposal is, instead of talking again about coordination, cooperation, enough of these words that we use this to put it in place. and we change, naturally, the role of the european prosecutor. the european prosecutor cannot
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only be responsible for financial fraud. we need to change also that so that the prosecutor is responsible also for crimes like terrorism. that is my proposal. instead now, of in the coming fixing article five, to use it in the coming weeks to make a leap forward and do with the americans have already done 150 years ago. thank you. [applause] >> thank you. another question. >> thank you. mrs. my last time. -- this is my last time. i hope that you are not insulted by my request for information. you said that yet again brussels, copenhagen, paris recent attacks the perpetrators
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were known to the authorities. no reasonand here for -- storage of data of air passengers, which will not solve the problem. -- thisll actually mean will tie down hundreds of millions of euros which we need to invest and put into joint investigation teams. >> i think, mr. president, all storage of data can be useful. also, passenger named records. as a condition that there is also the capacity to analyze it, transfer it from one authority to the other. there are not walls between the different databases. that is the reason why i am proposing this european capacity for intelligence and the european capacity for investigation.
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i think that the sites the fact that we are going to create 28 databases, it is also necessary for the commission would be horizontal system of mandatory sharing of information without what it is in fact not a useful tool. >> an initiative that i am asking. >> thank you. we have two other debates coming up. thank you very much. behalft of all can i, on repeat our dismay about a recent attacks in brussels. our thoughts are with the victims and families. our condolences go to all of the french, and belgian people, all
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of the eu nations and the people who have suffered from attacks. they paid a heavy price in blood. syria.price to and libya and india. other places as well. wider world -- the basic problem is the injustice and is to be should of wealth. that is the root. the european union is not entirely along here. we have seen examples of eu states following the united states of america. we have seen support going to extreme islamic groups and also to isis. the european countries must not -- we have a historic obligation to refrain from giving in and
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anti-islam isan him -- islamism. this -- thesept attacks being used as a guide for imposing new taccone and measures which will further -- draconian measures which will further restrict freedom. the most effective way of tackling terrorism is waging war , andjustice and inequality also putting an end to invasions and aggression which provides a seedbed for tours -- tourism. --elieve that recent offense events have shown the bankruptcy of our policies both within our frontiers and beyond. and combating terrorism is not going to be done by simply
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introducing bold measures, it's making sure that we can clear the bases for social growth and unemployment, that's the best way. thank you very much. next for the greens, mr. lambert. >> thank you, president. colleagues, we cannot help but be disgusted to see the waste of human life as a result of these terrorist attacks. planned in cold blood. we all stand by the victims and their families and loved ones. but how can we not be alarmed by the way these things can go on in the midst of normal life? and how can we not be outraged given that much has been planned for years. that these terrorists were allowed to move freely, how can
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we not feel scandalized by the fact that our countries are continuing to trade with middle eastern countries promoting the most violent and extremist forms of islam? surely we have to ask ourselves, what's been going on in our society, which has promoted hate speech and people condoning violence? the ideology of exclusion and reduction of society to mere production and consumption. if we respond by setting up police states, constantly monitoring our slightest moves, and stigmatizing our fellow citizens even more, adopting rhetoric of warfare, dividing the world between them and us, if we do all of that then the terrorists will have won. on the contrary, the best response we can give them is to reflect the mottos of belgium and europe.
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unity and diversity gives you strength. let's pool our strength in an intelligent way, to fight the militarist project and let's ensure that at the heart of our projects we restore human dignity. lastly, with your indulgence, mr. president, i would like to briefly. excuse nothing. forget nothing. resist try and understand. , because otherwise you will maintain evil. you can't fight shadows with shadows. you can't fight hatred with hatred. eye for an eye will lead to a whole planet being blind. we have 130 reasons to fight, we have another 32 reasons after what happened in brussels to believe in this cause and to wage it. thank you. >> i have a question from
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-- i had overlooked it. i hope that we can still have time for it. madam. >> yes. i seem to gather from what you were saying that you were acknowledging some sort of miracle before the attacks. are you saying that it's our fault that they're killing us? [applause] >> first of all, let us not forget that terrorism promotes certain ideas, and what i was saying, isis and other extremist islamist bodies have had support from the western countries, big countries, both economically, strategically and politically. and even today there are countries which are our allies,
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saudi arabia and turkey, they are also providing support and the european union is also involved in this. and must shoulder the path to blame. thank you very much. >> the fundamentally new principle of freedom movement, people, services or goods, may well have been well intentioned but it can only remain so if his , reactive and updated ideally integrating and responding to both external and internal threats and pressures. its fundamental weaknesses lie in an outdated processes required to address what are now fast-moving events, not merely on the european continent but also on a global scale. but more fundamentally on the
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protection that it enjoys in the face of fundamental threats to civic society and citizens. trying to connect 28 member states, cultures and processes at a time of crisis, the e.u. is unable to anticipate events or be able to react at adequate speed to these events. this is not an approach capable of countering or indeed beating terrorism. when there is a threat, it's important to think like the adversary. not on mindless dialogue and consultation with the objective of protecting a sacred cow. the united nations endured some 30 years of conflict and terrorist activities before a resolution in northern ireland was found. the u.k. has much to offer the european and international community on how to counter terrorism. not least, money laundering, a
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key element in terrorist funding. and financing. but in contrast, the e.u. seems purely focused on unified border control and central intelligence agency. but these so far have been total failures. critical weaknesses only serving to facilitate the recent terrorist atrocities. now, again, the united kingdom has led the way in combating international counterterrorist efforts. and the u.k. will maintain those responsibilities, e.u. member or not. in contrast, the e.u. reaction to the migrant crisis has been unhelpful in extreme and its reactions unhelpful and just like those of a rabbit in the headlights. the e.u. has border control front text which consumes several hundred millions of euros but is nonoperational and little more than a data collection and analysis agency.
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reports and stats, fine. courts coordinate the activities of member states and border control, according to its charter. in fact it has no operational capability and it has to rely on nato, individual member states, and other operational forces to do anything useful. indeed, we've got a basic conflict of interest here. in that the e.u. mantra is open borders with no control. the e.u. properly never imagined that its open border mantra would encourage the movement of criminals, terrorists and , weapons. the result has been that a number of countries have had to take unilateral action to defend their borders and actually as a result breaking their treaty obligations. but just look at a thing set up -- this fledgling european
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intelligence agency. yet another failure. doing little more than gathering data. the collection of data such as fingerprints, mentioned already by others, at the borders within european has been a disastrous example, only 17% of migrants at key points of entry have been fingerprinted. and to make matters worse, even if their fingerprints have been taken, no one within member states has been allowed to share that data. there could be no greater gift to terrorism than being invisible and untraceable, yet this is what the european union approach facilitates. we've talked about p.n.r. there are issues about privacy and human rights and i do wonder, having been criticized for the comments of frontier europe, are we not actually building that?
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too many in this parliament, the response is, we need more europe and we heard that this afternoon. would anyone pour more money into an approach and infrastructures that are broken, ill-conceived and ineffective? but they can be addressed, just not by doing more of the same. that is the definition of an idiot. it could well be argued that the e.u. should stick to matters that can usefully address and do well, but stay out of matters where it does not have the experience or capability. general michael hayden, ex head of n.s.a. in the u.s., said, security is a national issue. now, it's time the e.u. and the parliament opened its eyes to what's going on. >> ma'am, please conclude. >> just bear in mind that the future is and should be recognized, bilateral agreements based on good data exchange,
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trusted data exchange and experience is the way forward. not trying to make 28 member states do one thing. >> thank you very much. now for the -- [inaudible] >> mr. president, my sympathy goes to the victims of the recent attacks in brussels. >> and it's incredibly bitter and poignant that those attacks could have been avoided. national borders should have been closed long before. because these islamist heroes were traveling freely between the netherlands and belgium. and of course creating these ghettos, they've become heroes there as martyrs. i think everyone who has let led -- led that to happen shares the
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blame. whether they're members of this parliament or the commission or the member state governments who plea for opening the doors. opening the frontiers. and then -- and then people die as a result. how hypocritical was this, remembering the victims, grieving for the victims, when a part of this parliament itself cleared its conditions and creates conditions for those attacks and other attacks? i believe that all forms of counterterrorism has to start with addressing the causes of terrorism. you do not want to see that and name the names. the source, the recourse, is islam. it's been the source for years. 240 million people have been killed over that period in its name. it's not friendly to our western values.
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it cannot be integrated into our western cultures. to you and to the commission, recognize the folly and recognize we've got to change tack because the way to go is closing the national borders. it's stopping mass immigration and stopping islam in its tracks. thank you very much. >> a question. sorry. could you just let the colleague put their headphones on first. please, go ahead. >> thank you very much.
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do you really think that closing the borders would be the solution to dealing with this? do you think, for example, the netherlands all by themselves could fight against this type of terrorism? it's crazy listening to you saying that all muslims are terrorists. i think you need to reread your history books. it's war that is causing these people to flee. please be reasonable. [applause] >> yes. i think we're seeing denial here. permanent denial of the situation in belgium.
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tv, we willhistory visit the archaeological site and learn how the native american culture lived from about the 11th through the 15th centuries. >> welcome. in its heyday, melville was the largest city north of mexico and contains the remains of about 30 flat top mounds. .e are standing at mound b it contains about 12,000 cubic yards of dirt to this would have been where the structure for the highest ranking ruler for the highest-ranking clan would have been 10 originally, scientists thought they were completely built by one basket load of dirt at a time. recent research indicates that the base of the mound and possibly the sides of them were initially built with blocks that were filled in with clay.
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give a lot more stability to the structure as they were building it. know that, periodically, after the mound was built, it would be capped over with different colors of clay. so if you slice into the mound, it would resemble a layer cake. tourncer: watch the cities . working with our cable affiliates and visiting cities across the country. announcer: john konstantin says, each day, there are more than one million a malicious attempts to access the irs main computer systems. he testified before the senate finance committee tuesday on what the irs is doing to prevent cyber attacks and how to better protect taxpayers' private information. this is one hour and 45 minutes.


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