tv U.S. House of Representatives Morning Hour CSPAN May 11, 2016 10:00am-12:01pm EDT
online. thank you for your time this morning. that does it for today's opening -- "washington journal." enjoy your wednesday. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.] the speaker pro tempore: the house will be in order. the chair lays before the house a communication from the speaker. the clerk: the speaker's room, washington, d.c., may 11, 2016. i hereby appoint the honorable jeff fortenberry to act as speaker pro tempore on this day. signed, paul d. ryan, speaker of the house of representatives.
the speaker pro tempore: pursuant to the order of the house of january 5, 2016, the chair will now recognize members from lists submitted by the majority and minority leaders for morning hour ebate. the chair will alternate recognition between the parties with each party limited to one hour and each member other than the majority and minority leaders and the minority whip but in to five minutes, no event shall debate continue beyond 11:50 a.m. today. the chair recognizes the gentlewoman from north carolina, ms. foxx, for five minutes. ms. foxx: thank you, mr. speaker. mr. speaker, we talk a lot in this chamber about the burdensome regulations that federal agencies frequently place on the american public. last week the competitive enterprise institute released a report that puts a price tag on the rules implemented by the federal bureaucracy, saying federal regulation and
intervention cost american consumers and businesses nearly $2 trillion in lost economic productivity and higher prices in 2014. that is simply unacceptable. many of these rules hinder innovation and job creation and are costly to business and consumers. as a former small business owner, i know firsthand how the government can make it more difficult for a business to be successful. i recognize the true cost of overregulation, such as lost productivity, increased expenses and new financial and legal liabilities which many policymakers often forget about. just last month, the house approved a disapproval resolution to stop the obama administration from implementing its flawed fiduciary rule which will significantly impact the ability of americans to receive advice on how to save for retirement and make it more difficult for businesses, in particular small businesses, to establish retirement plans. the rule, which contains more than 1,000 pages of new
regulations, makes it cost prohibitive to offer advice or services to low and middle-income americans by increasing compliance costs and the risk of litigation. the department of education is constantly putting obstacles in the path of innovation, and these unnecessary regulations e stifling pioneering higher education institutions when forward thinking solutions are desperately needed. this will not promote diverse choices for students. in fact, they often add administrative costs on schools, costes that are typically passed onto students in the forms of fees and higher tuition. that's why i introduced legislation to reduce federal trusion and limit the costly regulatory burdens on students. the issue of unfunded mandates has been a particular interest of mine. it's frequently overlooked in
the debates in reforming our regulatory system and carrying out federal policies. it's all too easy for washington bureaucrats to write off concerns expressed by a handful of local governments or a small subset of private businesses but they have real costs and real effects on individuals, families and communities we each represent. my legislation, the unfunded mandates information transparency act, does not seek to prevent the federal government from regulating. rather, it seeks to ensure its regulations are deliberative and economically defensible. asking regulators to consider thoroughly and understand the cost of a rule in addition to its benefits should not be controversial. republicans are often accused of opposing all regulations, but that's just not true. we're in favor of commonsense rules and we believe it is possible to alleviate the regulatory burden on small businesses and other job creators while balancing public safety and consumer interests. regulation by bureaucratic fiat is not what the founding
fathers had in mind when they created our government. i applaud speaker ryan for creating the task force on reducing regulatory burdens and look forward to seeing its suggestions for a modern and transparent regulatory system that makes it easier to invest, produce and build in america. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady yields back. the chair recognizes the gentleman from rhode island, mr. cicilline, for five minutes. mr. cicilline: thank you, mr. speaker. tomorrow is the commemoration of the israeli declaration of independence in 1948. this day of celebration is always immediately proceeded by israel's memorial day. this timing is no accident. the people of israel know their freedom comes at a high price and today i'm humbled to join them in remembering more than 23,000 soldiers and victims of terrorist attacks who have paid this price, including 68
soldiers and police officers and 32 civilians over the past year alone. the strong relationship between the united states and israel dates back more than six decades. on may 14, 1948, just 11 minutes after provisional governor of israel, led by the prime minister, proclaimed a new state, president harry s. truman announced that a jewish state has been proclaimed in palestine and recognition has been asked by the provential government thereof. the united states recognizes the government as a de facto authority as the state of israel. this year israelis will celebrate their independence as they always have, gathering for public shows, performing israeli folk dances and singing israeli songs and spending days with families on picnics or hikes. men and women who made contributions will receive awards. the celebration of israel's
independence has been a way to express solidarity with the state of israel. it's been a day of different denominations to come together for a single united celebration of israel's creation and existence, both of which have defied great odds. just one day after president truman recognized the new jewish state's existence, five neighboring arab countries amassed their armies and invaded, determined to remove the dream of israel from the pages of history. but after months of fighting, israel emerged stronger than it was before with more territory under its control. since then, the people of israel have lived under the threat of violence for nearly seven decades. they survived the six-day war in 1967. the yom kippur war in 1973 and insurgences that targeted soldiers and civilians alike. through it all, the friendship between the united states and israel has remained strong. we stood together to oppose soviet aggression during the cold war and we continue to stand together today united in the fight against terrorism and global extremism.
this friendship is rooted in much more than strategic interest. the united states and israel have always shared common values. as the most stable and successful democracy in the middle east, israel is committed to the values of equality and freedom, including a free press, freedom of religion and the right of self-determination through democratic elections. today, at a pivotal moment in the history of the world, it's more important than ever for the united states to stand with the people of israel. i've been proud to work with my colleagues on both sides of the aisle on legislation to strengthen the ties between our two countries. the united states-israel cybersecurity cooperation act, which i introduced earlier this year, will establish a joint cybersecurity center of excellence where we can work together on cybersecurity and protection of critical infrastructure. we condemned efforts to inflame anti-semitic sentiments by the palestinian authority. these are critical issues we must continue to work on in the pursuit of our common
objectives and shared values. i congratulate the state of israel on the anniversary of its independence and i look forward to continuing to work to strengthen the relationship between our two countries even further. and with that i yield back, mr. speaker. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the chair now recognizes the gentleman from texas, mr. poe, for five minutes. mr. poe: mr. speaker, as the world leader in freedom and democracy, it is in our national interest to see that the same freedoms we have spread to peoples throughout the world. the republic of georgia is a small and young democracy in an area that is more known for its authoritarian rule than freedom. georgia formerly declared independence in 1918 but four years later, the soviet bear inveigheded and declared georgia a soviet socialist republic but the georgian people are resilient and with the fall of the soviet union in 1991 georgia declared its independence from russia. over the past 25 years, georgia has become the freest country
in its region. it sets up -- it sets up a stark contrast to the dictatorship of putin in the north. however, the russians never gave up their ambitions to control georgia. i was in georgia in 2008 when the russian troops inveigheded and took 1/3 of georgia. i saw the russian tanks up on the hill and, mr. speaker -- invaded and took 1/3 of georgia. i saw the russian tanks up on the hill. and georgia's quest for democracy and liberty, they don't like. georgia has made good governance a cornerstone of its reforms, grown the economy and made significant progress toward creating a democratic society. the world witnessed georgia's first peaceful democratic transition of power from one party to another in 2013. it has improved media freedom for four consecutive years, accordinging to reporters without report -- according to
reporters without borders. they rank georgia number one in the area for freedom of the press. it ranks higher than some european union countries and other u.s. allies, according to transparency international. when it comes to business and free markets, georgia makes it to the top of the pack. the world bank ranked gap among the top 25 countries easiest to do business in. the fact is that georgian people and their government share our western values. a recent poll found that more than 3/4 of the georgian people support their government's goal to join the european union. nearly 70% of georgians also support georgia joining nato, and the united states should be vocal and support georgia's quest to be in nato. for the past 25 years of independence, georgia has been a valuable ally of the united states, and due to georgia's free market system, low corruption and simplified tax
system, many american companies have invested in georgia, especially in the energy sector. the u.s. should negotiate a free trade agreement with georgia to add jobs to both of our economies and send a message that georgia is an important friend of the united states. georgia is also a vital partner in the battle against international terrorism. it has provided more troops to the effort in afghanistan than any other non-nato member. 33 georgian troops have fought and died on the battlefield with american troops, and 900 georgian troops still remain in afghanistan. the georgians are now preparing to hold elections in october, and to ensure these parliamentary elections are free and fair, the georgians have invited international independent election observers to monitor those elections in october. the united states and our nato allies must remain firm in our support for georgia. georgia is a sovereign country
whose boundaries should be respected even by putin. russia knows georgia is a symbol of democracy in the region. that's why putin continues to rattle his sabers in the entire neighborhood. dictator putin knows if georgia is a successful democracy then georgia's neighbors are going to want to follow that lead and become more democratic. it is in our national interest to support georgia and their democratic aspirations and their journey for liberty. 50 years ago our president john f. kennedy talked about liberty. he stated what the american policy is regarding liberty. and i hope and believe it is still our policy today. and here's what he said, mr. speaker. let every nation know whether it wishes us well or ill that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and
success of liberty. that applies to georgia, mr. speaker, and that's just the way it is. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the chair now recognizes the gentleman from connecticut, mr. courtney, for five minutes. mr. courtney: thank you, mr. speaker. mr. speaker, this shows the sickening increase in overdose deaths in this country to heroin and opioid over the last 10 -- decade or so. the first map is a map from center for disease control tatistics in 2004 when 7,000roughly, americans lost their lives to overdose deaths. the red color shows the intensity of regions where deaths occurred in excess of 20 per 100,000. the blue is 10 per 100,000 or less. in 2014, over 28,000 americans lost their lives to heroin and
opioid overdose deaths, and as you can see, the red portions of the country is increasing at an alarming rate. we have not gotten the 2015 statistics yet from the center for disease control, but by all indication from state numbers that are coming out, this map is actually going to get worse for the 2015 numbers. so mr. speaker, we have an epidemic in this country that far surpasses any challenges by a natural disaster. if we had an attack on the homeland that took the number of lives that these maps represent, this congress would be on fire in terms of trying to move resources and help to communities all across the country. again, it is indiscriminant. it hits rural america. it hits suburban america. it hits urban america and it hits age groups and ethnic groups across the board. . today we'll take up legislation,
h.r. 4641 and h.r. 5046, the first bill has two co-sponsors, the second has 10. the first provides for establishment of an interagency task force to talk about pain medication, and the sec is to authorize not appropriate, authorize different programs for heroin and opioid reduction. they are benign bills. it would be impossible for anyone to object to them. but be very clear, there is not a penny in either of these measures to help law enforcement, the police and fire who are responding to these crises day in and day out, and back at home in eastern connecticut, they are burning out because of the frequent siff these calls. there is not a penny in these pressures for treatment beds, for detox, for long-term care treatment. in the state of connecticut it takes four to six months to get treatment. these are addicts who are at points in their lives where to talk about a four or six-month time span is to talk about an
eternity. you talk to the families who are dealing with their loved ones, who are ensnared in these addictions, four to six months is really, basically, being told that there is no treatment available. and there is not a penny for prevention in education, which if we go up stream, that's how we solve this problem in terms of better practices for opioid and heroin prescription. so it is not a coincidence that the white house last night issued a statement on these -- this legislation which basically point out the fact that they, quote-unquote, do little to help the thousands of americans struggling with addiction. the statement goes on to say that the trends, these alarming trends which are represented in this map will not change by simply authorizing new grant programs, studies, and reports. congressional action is needed to fund the tools communities need to confront this academic and accelerate important policies like training health care providers.
the president submitted a budget with $1 billion of new funding paid for, offset, for 2017, that would put money into those three buckets. prevention and education, law enforcement, and treatment. again, no action by the majority in terms of dealing with actual funding to help people out there desperate for help. there is a bill to provide emergency supplemental funding of $600 million for this year, to get that help out now. and again we present it to the rules committee last night and it was rejected. again, if we had a hurricane or toronto or forest fire that was ravaging parts of this country or an attack on the homeland, this place would not hesitate about getting resources out there to help the folks that would respond to that type of a crisis. yet somehow we turn a blind eye to the thousands of americans who are suffering from addiction, to the thousands of law enforcement, fire, and police who are responding to these calls.
literally as we are sitting here today. there are hundreds per day of people who are dying because of this problem. and we, again, are providing no resources about better opioid prescription practices and getting better education, particularly to our young people, that clearly this map shows we must do if we are going to get our arms around this conflict and this problem. again, today there will be votes, there will be a lot of self-congratulatory rhetoric about the fact we are moving on this, remember, there is not a penny for law enforcement, for treatment, or for prevention and education. until we do that we are kidding ourselves that we are going to turn this alarming, disturbing trend around. thank you, mr. speaker. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the chair now recognizes the gentlewoman from florida, ms. ros-lehtinen, for five minutes. ms. ros-lehtinen: thank you so much, mr. speaker. i rise today in strong support of the long overdue south dade veterans affairs clinic,
adjacent to homestead air reserve base, part of my congressional district. community-based, outpatient clinic facilities in homestead and key largo are extremely limited in the amount of services that they provide, and this protect, therefore, can no longer be ignored, mr. speaker. -- -- mr. speaker. currently these military personnel, retired service members, and veterans are not getting the proper support that they have so rightfully earned. as the wife of a vietnam veteran and a stepmother of two marine aviators, i am passionate about safeguarding our nation's military members and their families, and fighting for the services they need in order for them to live healthy and fulfilling lives. our military does not quit on us, mr. speaker, and i certainly will continue fighting for them. it is estimated that there are more than 22,500 veterans, active duty mill tearks and
recently deployed reservists eligible for v.a. medical services within a 20-mile radius of homestead air reserve base. currently, those living in homestead who require more than the limited services offered at homestead outpatient clinic must 70 miles roundtrip to the v.a. medical center in order to get the proper care that they desperately need. veterans living in the upper keys have to travel even further oftentimes more than 160 miles roundtrip. this is completely unacceptable. it is a huge burden for our service men and women and their families who have already sacrificed so much for us and our nation. this new clinic would not only improve access to care for veterans and the homestead and upper keys, but would also enhance the quality of care throughout the region by reducing pressure on the miami v.a. medical center.
mr. speaker, the south dade v.a. clinic is a project that has great deal of support throughout my district, including the department of defense personnel at homestead air reserve base, and by the military affairs committee of the south dade chamber of commerce. i have also received thousands of constituent support cards, many of which i have here with me today. here's a bunch. here's a bunch. they are just thousands, mr. speaker. and once again i would like to express my strong support for the long overdue south dade veterans' affairs clinic, adjacent to the homestead air reserve base. these local veterans have waited too long already and they deserve nothing less than the successful completion of a new acility as soon as possible. mr. speaker, i rise today
to congratulate the democratic jewish state of israel as it marks its independence day. though the jewish people have historical ties to israel that date back millennia, in just these 68 years of statehood, look at all that israel has accomplished. world leader in education, in technology, in innovation. it is a vibrant and open democracy with a robust economy that thrives despite the constant threats that it faces daily. the united states can have no greater friend than israel. not only because we share the same interest, but because we also share the same values and beliefs, such as democratcy, the rule of law. that is why it is imperative that our two nations sign a new memorandum of understanding to ensure that israel has the
capability and the capacity to defend herself and her citizens from all threats and be a shining example of democracy for the entire region. mr. speaker, i look forward to continuing to work to strengthen the already strong relationship between u.s. and israel, and i congratulate the jewish state and her citizens on its 68th independence day. thank you, mr. speaker. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady yields back. the chair now recognizes the gentleman from oregon, mr. blumenauer, for five minutes. mr. blumenauer: thank you, mr. speaker. there is a major front on the war on drugs that is only now getting the attention it deserves. we'll be discussing it later today on the floor dealing with opioid addiction. instead of arresting or citing over 600,000 people for marijuana last year, which had zero overdose deaths, and which a majority of americans think
should be legal, we should redouble our efforts to fight the abuse of opioid prescription painkillers and the epidemic of opioid deaths. because of reckless marketing, lax oversight, there is an overdose death every 19 minutes. 78 people a day die. 20,000 last year. and it is directly related to many heroin addicts and the death on heroin are increasing ecause the addics -- add ict's -addicts drug of choice shifts to heroin. 2.1 million suffer from substance abuse. and 1,000 people a day are admitted to emergency rooms. we have a challenge that needs to be addressed. there's plenty of blame to go around. the drug companies' marketing
practice, pill mills, and unscrupulous doctors who government regulators were asleep at the switch and the d.e.a., which cannot get its priorities or its story straight. i am hopeful that today's action on the floor will be the first step. as my friend and colleague from connecticut pointed out, it really doesn't speak meaningfully to what we are going to have to do with prevention and treatment. which ultimately can help disrupt this. but there is one simple step that i think would make a profound difference. we have -- we are introducing gislation today to deal with isposal of prescription drugs. we are issuing approximately one prescription per adult in the
united states, 260 million of them. there are millions of these drugs floating around and left over. what do people do? many of them just flush them down the toilet or leave them in the medicine cabinet. well, flushing it into the sewer system is not a good idea because we are slowly medicating millions of americans who are having traces of these drugs showing up in their system. they are expensive to try and remove. and leaving it in the medicine cabinet is how many people find drugs to abuse. teenagers steal unused medicines out of medicine cabinets in homes that they visit or from family members. the drug posing disposal tax credit, which would offer qualified entities such as retail pharmacies, narcotic
treatment programs, long-term care facilities, a tax credit to be able to deal with disposal of these prescription drugs on site. locating safe drug disposal and take back programs at pharmacies and other health care sites will increase access to this safe medicine disposal, and will remove millions of these highly dangerous drugs from the hand of people who shouldn't have t by all means let's have the debate today. let's start moving forward. let's look at broader challenges of treatment and prevention, long overdue. hopefully the d.e.a. gets its priorities straight in the future, but in the meantime, providing a tax credit for safe disposal is a small step which should have bipartisan support and will make a difference in every community across america
to end this epidemic of prescription overdose deaths. thank you. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the chair now recognizes the gentleman from pennsylvania, mr. thompson, for five minutes. mr. thompson: thank you, mr. speaker. mr. speaker, i rise to recognize the efforts of grace preston, a sixth grader from pennsylvania's fifth congressional district. grace visited washington, d.c., last week to accept a spirit of community award ceremony at the smith sownial museum of natural history. grace was one of only two students in pennsylvania to be honored with this award, which recognizes outstanding acts of volunteerism. grace has raised more than $4,000 in the past three years to improve the lives of animals in her community through the sale of homemade dog treats, cat toys, and flea and tick repellent. she became interested in helping animals after her family adopted a pet from a local shelter.
through her efforts grace has raised enough money to enable the local humane society purchase a story shed and other splice. she's also provided animal oxygen mask kits to fire department to pets caught in fires. help pay for a shelter dog surgery, and collected animal food for the pets of needy families. her work is an example that students across the nation should look towards. i know she has made her school and her community proud. . mr. speaker, last week was national drinking water week. this designation is to highlight the importance of drinking water across our nation and the need to reinvest in the infrastructure that brings tap water into our homes. quality water has been credited with vastly extending the life expectancy here in the united states by eliminating the sickness from diseases spread through drinking water such as typhoid fever. while we have made great progress in improving water across our nation, there's
always more work to be done and congress, since 1996, the drinking water state reinvolving loan fund has helped fund public water systems and infrastructure projects in order to meet public health goals and to comply with federal regulations. last year alone, congress provide $2.3 billion to the e.p.a. for local drinking water and sewer construction projects through the clean water and state water revolving fund. it is essential for our state's number one industry, agriculture. the commonwealth of pennsylvania continues to provide substantial food, fiber and energy for residents across our nation. with this in mind, promoting and sustaining healthy waters and soil is essential. as chairman of the agriculture subcommittee on conservation foresty with jurisdiction over federal conservation systems administered by the national resource conservation service, the u.s. forest service and
forestry practices, we promote the health of our watersheds, soils and forest. to help meet those needs, i was proud to work on the 2014 farm bill which provides many positive tools for farmers and landowners, from estuary management, the united states department of agriculture plays an important role in managing and improving both water and soil quality. the farm bill was the guiding authorization for the department. programs such as the conservation reserve program or the conservation -- or c.r.p., the environment quality incentive program, and the regional conservation partnership program are few of the critical ones that directly impact soil and water quality in our country and certainly in pennsylvania. as we've seen so many times in pennsylvania and around the country, a once a watershed or water source is harmed, it often takes generations to recover. history shows us just how important clean water is. it also demonstrates how hard
it is to fix a water source once it has been contaminated. i remain committed in washington and certainly in my home state of pennsylvania to helping our professionals, volunteers, business communities, nonprofits and our watershed associations as well as academic and research institutions such as penn state and their effort to preserve our state's water and our country's water for future generations. thank you, mr. speaker. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the chair recognizes the gentlewoman from oregon, ms. bonamici, for five minutes. ms. bonamici: thank you, mr. speaker. when i travel around northwest oregon i often hear from parents who struggle to afford childcare which in oregon can cause as much as a year of college tuition. i hear from people who can't find work because their skills don't match up with the jobs that are available in their area. and i hear from students who are overwhelmed by the cost of a college education. these are not problems without
solutions. as policymakers, we should be addressing the challenges our families face. it is possible to give every child the opportunity to succeed, to close the achievement gap, to make college accessible and affordable, to expand family-friendly workplace policies and to make sure we have a 21st century work force. in fact, we can't afford to let these problems continue to hold us back. this week i welcomed to oregon mr. scott of virginia, the ranking member on the committee on education and the work force. together we sought and discussed some of the struggles our working families face. we had a whirlwind day that included substantive discussions about how to give children, young people and working families the support they need to succeed. we talked about how to open the doors of opportunity that are closed to too many. i invited mr. scott to oregon because he has a remarkable record of standing up for
working families. on the education and work force committee we worked together on the every student succeeds act and on the older americans act, to support our growing population of older adults. he's also been a leader for working families by standing up to a tax on the national relations labor board and protecting retirees through his support of the department of labor's rule to ban conflicts of interest in retirement advice. during his visit this week, i showed mr. scott the innovative and collaborative nature that sets oregon apart. oregon is a leader in addressing barriers faced by working families. last year, our state legislature raised the state's minimum wage and passed legislation to provide workers with paid sick days to care for themselves or their families. at our forum on early childhood development, we discussed how this country's workplace policies have not kept up with our changing work force. one from family forward oregon told us even that iconic image
of the cleaver family does not accurately reflect the diversity of american families. in fact, barbara, the actress who played june cleaver on leave it to beaver was in real life a single working mom. we heard from others how food insecurity and hunger interfere with the inability of too many children to focus in school and how early childhood education correlates to positive health outcomes and academic achievement later in life. i'm proud of oregon for taking so many positive steps to protect working families, but these changes shouldn't be happening just for some. we should be happening these conversations and discussions in congress as well. our economy will be stronger and our families will be healthier when we acknowledge that families need policies that work for them, not against them. we need equal pay for women, good wages, paid leave and affordable childcare to support families in oregon and across the country.
looking toward our future, i want students today to have the same students i had. i worked my way through community college, college and law school and i graduated with a very manageable amount of student debt. unfortunately, that opportunity is out of reach for too many of today's families. again, oregon is a national leader. oregon promise, our state's free community college plan, will help put education within reach for thousands of students. oregon's leaders have recognized that the future of our economy relies on an educated and innovative work force to create and fill the jobs of the 21st century. during our visit, i introduced mr. scott to fernando who participates in portland community college's very successful future connect program. this program connects low-income first generation college students with financial aid resources, prnlized academic advising, internships and job training and an intensive summer orientation,
all of which helped them succeed in college. this program is critical to fernando who is dake student and to other first generation college students. -- daca student and to other first generation college students. he said this made him feel at home in college. it's important they stay there and finish their degrees and now fernando is off to a four-year university pursuing his plans to become a dentist. i'm incredibly proud of the state i represent. congress can learn a lot from the oregon spirit of innovation and collaboration. i was glad to show mr. scott the progress we've made in oregon, and i look forward to working with my colleagues on both sides of the aisle to remove the many obstacles that are holding back working families and keeping young people from achieving their full potential. because when we open the doors of opportunity to everyone, we'll all succeed. thank you, mr. speaker. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady yields back. the chair now recognizes the gentleman from ohio, mr. gibbs,
for five minutes. mr. gibbs: in 2009 and 2010 when the other side of the aisle had complete control of congress and the white house, the american people saw what liberals would pass when given check.in and a blank dodd-frank had burdensome regulations they cannot afford to comply with. dodd-frank created the cfpb which obscures transparency and prevents congress direct oversight of the agency. the lack of account act like that of the cfpb and the likes of the e.p.a. and i.r.s. has become hallmark of this administration. with the stimulus bill democrats gave handouts to their union and so-called green energy friends. taxpayers were on the hook for loan guarantees to companies like solyndra who used their political connections at the white house to push through irresponsible loan approvals. when they went bankrupt, it was a cost to the american people. many other smaller boondoggles
came out of the stimulus. silly studies on ducks. over $1 million on road science promoting the stimulus and over $3 million for a tunnel for turtles in florida. this leaves obamacare. too many americans felt the negative consequences of what boils down to a government takeover of the health care industry. the president claimed this law was to decrease premiums by $2,500 per year. instead they have risen since obamacare was enacted. many americans have seen a sharp decrease in their choices. there are fewer plans available, restricting the ability of hardworking families to choose coverage that is appropriate for their circumstances. taken together, this trio of liberal policies is adding a layer of bureaucratic red tape, forcing americans to pay more for health care and putting taxpayers on the hook. in 2009, democrats used the blank check to add $1.5 trillion in discretionary spending. when republicans gained control of the house of representatives in 2011, we put discretionary
spending on a downward trend. it funds our federal agencies such as the e.p.a. and i.r.s. as well as the dope depth of defense. we have made real cuts in spending, not slowdowns in growth and not projected cuts down the road. honest to god cuts in spending. since i took office in 2011, discretionary spending has been cut by $434 billion. but this does not address mandatory spending which is the real driver of our national debt. this includes programs like food assistance, medicare, medicaid and social security and interest on our debt. reforms are needed to ensure these programs work efficiently and are sustainable. because of the way obamacare was written and enacted, mandatory spending also includes large portions of obamacare funding. mandatory spending is on autopilot and will continue with or without congress' annual appropriations process. the fact is we have to change the law. that means both chambers of congress have to pass reforms and the president has to sign them or we have to override a veto.
mandatory spending accounts for 3/4 of all money spent by the federal government. this is 180-degree change from when i was a teenager when in 1970 mandatory spending was about a third of government spending. realically there is one path to shrinking our debt that is using a process called reconciliation. a budget facilitates reconciliation which only requires a 51-vote majority in the united states senate, avoiding a filibuster by liberals who want to continue running up america's credit card. not doing a budget forfeits the opportunity to do reconciliation. reconciliation with mandatory spending programs reforms coupled with real tax and regulatory reforms will send a strong signal to our entrepreneurs and businesses unleashing inowe vapings and the american spirit, thus growing our economy and provide for our national defense. a vibrant economy will provide for our national security and
priorities without raising taxes. we have an opportunity with a new president next year to send two reconciliation bills to his desk. one for this fiscal year and another for the next fiscal year. elections do matter and this one has historic implications. one being a path to a stronger america and opportunity for every american or a path on a downward spiral of economic disaster, risking our personal and economic freedoms. god help us. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the chair now recognizes the gentleman from california, mr. sherman, for five minutes. mr. sherman: how does america get saddled with these bad trade deals? if we look at our, quote, free trade agreements we see a 425% increase in our trade deficit with those countries. you get that statistic if you include nafta, which, of course, is the grand daddaddy
of all of our -- granddaddy of awful our free trade deals. and how do we end up with such bad deals? first, the elites convinced themselves that it's good for the country. they do this because they love the theory of the economic textbook and don't feel comfort looking at the practice of how business actually works. second, the elites benefit from these deals. these deals help economists and wall street and attorneys and so they convince themselves that they're good for the country as a whole and create a subcultural ecochamber in that it is a subcultural norm that all smart people realize these are good trade deals. so having convinced themselves to support these deals, they use a combination of false appeals to patriotism and sneaky tactics to saddle the american people with these
trade deals. take a look at what the effect on working families. america needs a raise. to get it we need a severe labor shortage. we would have millions of additional jobs, a desperate labor shortage, if only we had balanced trade with the world. let's look at t.p.p. and its inclusion of vietnam. we are told the trans-pacific partnership will give us free access to the vietnamese market. there's only one problem. in vietnam there's no freedom and there's no market. . in fact we will not have access except as the communist party of vietnam decides to grant it on the basis of crony capitalism. but our workers are going to have to compete against 40 cent an hour vietnamese labor. now, we are told in vietnam under this deal it won't be illegal to organize a union. they won't put you in jail for organizing a union.
yes, what they'll do is they'll plant drugs on every union ack at this viths and arrest them for that. it hurts working families so how do they sell it? they claim that it may take jobs away, but it's a necessary sacrifice because we have to contain china. as the ranking member of the asia subcommittee, i'm here to tell you the t.p.p. is great for china. first, we are told, we get to write the rules. no, these are wall street's rules. they are not the rules of the american working family. second, t.p.p. enshrines the idea that currency manipulation is just fine. so china gets the single most important change in the rules of international trade. but finally and most obscurely, there are the rules of origin. we know under this rule goods made in vietnam and japan come right into the united states
with no tariffs. what you don't know is goods that are 50%, 60%, 70% made in china then go to vietnam and japan where they can put a made in japan sticker on it and send to the united states. that's when' they admit that it's 50% or 60% made in china. if you're in a position to admit that your goods are 60% made in china, that means they can be 90% made in china. so china gets to fast track their goods into the united states, no tariffs, and we get no access to the chinese markets. it's a really bad deal, how do you bass it. you use sneaky tactics. they don't have the votes to pass it now. the american people would rise in opposition to try to pass it now. they are going to wait for the lame duck. and then have a group of retiring members of this body shaft the american people with the t.p.p. we do have a solution. we need to get all three remaining presidential candidates to declare that if
sneaky tactics and lame duck sessions are used to impose t.p.p. on america, that they will, in their first month in office, pull us back out of t.p.p. unless we hear that clearly from the three presidential candidates, all of whom oppose t.p.p., they not only oppose it, but they will erase anything that happens in a lame duck session, then the elites will prevail. we will lose jobs again. our workers will have to compete with 40 cent an hour labor, chinese goods will be fast tracked into the united states with made in japan and made in vietnam stickers on them. it's time for the presidential candidates to go beyond saying they are against it. they have to declare that they'll make sure that any lame duck approval of t.p.p. that happens in december will be erased the following january. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired.
the chair now recognizes the gentleman from new york, mr. zeldin, for five minutes. mr. zeldin: thank you, mr. speaker. the growing heroin and opioid crisis has hit especially home in my district in suffolk county, new york. there was a 2005 report issued in new york state that showed out of all 62 counties in new york, that it was my home county that was hit the hardest by the rise of heroin and opioid abuse. we had the highest number of heroin related overdose deaths of any county in new york. as a member of the bipartisan task force to combat the heroin epidemic, i have spoken with effective -- affected families directly. addiction is a truly devastating disease that shatters lives, families, and communities. it's a disease that only continues to spread at rapid rates, and more can and must be
done to counteract the damage it has done and prevent its rapid advancement. working closely with my local community, i have been pursuing a more localized solution to address this crisis. hosting multiple drug task force round tables in suffolk county, i have been able to bring together local officials, law enforcement, health professionals, community groups, parents, concerned residents, and those in recovery to discuss various ways we can work together to combat this epidemic. over the past year working with both local residents and my colleagues in congress, i have been pushing to advance legislation in the house that would help provide us with the resources we need to end the growing epidemic crisis on long island. just last week, joined by my local community, i was proud to announce that there's been progress made to pass several important bills this week aimed at improving and increasing
access to treatment, enforcement, and education. the house is now passing many of these critically important measures over the course of the next few days. while i have been dedicating the most amount of my time advocating for the passage of the competitive addiction and recovery act, known as cara, h.r. 953, many other important proposals are also moving forward. one other bill i co-sponsored is h.r. 4641, which we'll be passing today, which would improve the guidelines for prescribing observe yoids and pain medication by creating a federal interagency and stakeholder task force that would review, modify, and update best practice force pain management and prescribing pain medication. while there are many legitimate reasons and needs for some to be treated with pain medication, those highly addictive pills pose a serious risk. this critical bill would help ensure that all parties from
prescribers to patients have access to the most up-to-date information so that lawful prescription use does not become addicting. just a few of the other bills include the examining opioid treatment infrastructure act of 2016, h.r. 4982, which would require congress receive a report on substance abuse treatment availability and infrastructure needs in the u.s. and legislation that would task a federal agency to create a plan on how to deal with the opioid and heroin epidemic. h.r. 4976. legislation is passing to help stop the flow of the illegal narcotics into our country, to keep drugs out of our communities and off our streets, such as legislation to help law enforcement officials identify and target drug traffickers, h.r. 3380, and allow for easier prosecution of these criminals, h.r. 4985. there is not one piece of legislation that will completely solve this overwhelming crisis, but finally congress is taking a
big step forward in the fight against drug abuse. we must always do everything in our power to provide our local communities with the resources necessary to help stop and prevent drug abuse through treatment, enforcement, and education. which is why i'll continue pushing these efforts in the house. i have spoken to parents of those recovering, parents of those who are unfortunately lost . it's impacting lives, it's devastating families. have a conversation, each of our districts, all 435 congressional districts, we all hear the story all too often. it's not any race, gentgender, socioeconomic status. it's not one particular school district, it's impacting all our children. as the father of two 9-year-old girls, i visited their class last week, i think of their generation. it's important that this generation in congress today does everything in our power
this week and beyond to combat this epidemic. yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yield back his time. the chair now recognizes the gentlewoman from alabama, ms. sewell, for five minutes. ms. sewell: thank you, mr. speaker. today i rise to pay tribute to a hidden jewel in alabama's seventh congressional district. wallace community college, selma. wallace community college, selma, is a stellar two-year institution that provides incredible educational opportunities to the students of dallas county and across the black belt of alabama. now more than ever america needs greater innovation in our education system to meet the demanding needs of tomorrow. outstanding higher education institutes in the state of alabama are producing some of our state's and nation's best and brightest who will lead us into the next era of american innovation. wallace community college, selma, is leading that charge in
my district through its dual enrollment program, which allows high school students to complete college courses and graduate with a high school diploma, as well as an associate degree from this junior college. in 2008, wallace community college, selma, graduated 31 students from the selma early college high school, which was the first of its kind on a college campus in the state of alabama. the 2016 graduating class will include 22 dual enrollment students, including 20 students that were participating in a special partnership with tuskegee university. the howard hughs medical institute program with tuskegee allowed wallace community college, selma, to increase the participation of underrepresented minority students from alabama's black belt counties in the important fields of science and research. this dual enrollment program with tuskegee offers high school
students an opportunity to take classes at wallace community college, selma, as well as tuskegee and graduate with their high school diploma as well as an associate degree in science. mr. speaker, the dual enrollment program at wallace community college, selma, is accomplishing what it set out to do. to give dallas county high school students a head start in college. the benefits of this important opportunity are enmesh shurebl. -- immeasurable. cutting the costs while in college, while providing high school students significant exposure to classes and fields of interest that will give them an important advantage and jump-start on their peers. collaborations like these are critically important to our youth, gaining important and invaluable educational experience while obtaining college credit through dual enrollment. america must encourage more of these types of programs as we
seek to lead the world in educating our people and attracting new generations of high tech and high-paying jobs. as a member of congress for the seventh congressional district, i take great pride in working to offer solutions that will help lay the foundation for creating better-paying jobs and for our educational system to thrive in the future. i am so proud to acknowledge today the tremendous efforts and the outstanding programs offered at wallace community college, selma, which exemplify the invaluable role our two-year colleges play in our communities. this college leadership's leadership and innovation, creating a 21st century learning environment is to be commended. what a jewel to have serving the students of the black belt of alabama. i am proud to represent them in my district and also to help encourage more students to participate in the dual enrollment program and wallace community college, selma. mr. speaker, i want to commend
dr. james mitchell for his tremendous leadership as president of wallace community college, selma. i want to commend the faculty, administrators, and students of wallace community college, selma, for being truly outstanding. this friday, may 13, 2016, is graduation day at wallace, selma. i want to congratulate the entire class of 2016 and especially acknowledge the academic achievement of the 22 dual enrollment students who will receive a special congressional commendation on friday. the names of these students will be listed in this congressional record. i would also like to acknowledge the tremendous efforts and the tremendous achievements of the wallace students who were -- who participated in the alabama skills u.s.a. the alabama skills u.s.a. winners including janise collins who won first place in masonry, and was the first woman in the state of alabama to win this honor. other winners included rod drick
perkins who won second place in masonry. terence campbell who won third place. and francis phillips who won second place in cosmetology in men's hair design. wapet to also pay special tribute to the outstanding athletic achievements of kiona likely who was the 2015-2016 alabama community college conference player of the year, as well as mjcaa second team all american. mr. speaker, i ask my colleagues to join me in honoring all of the accomplishments of the outstanding students and graduates of wallace community college, selma, and to praise the leadership of dr. james mitchell and the hardworking staff and faculty of wallace community college. congratulations to the graduating class of 2016. i wish you-all the very best in all of your future endeavors. we are counting on you to make a difference. i yield back the balance of my time.
the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady's time has expired. pursuant to clause 12-a of rule 1, the chair declares the house in recess >> right now a hearing on fantasy sports. a subcommittee hearing is under way. they're hearing from representatives of the fantasy sports industry, the gambling industry and academics. congressman michael burgess is e subcommittee chairman on commerce, manufacturing. mr. gnat: the first product launch was a simple three-game parlay with maximum betting set. over the past 20 year the product offerings have evolved
two include two event parlays, cross-event wagering. the product has evolved from a lottery only channel to now include the casino channel. recognizing the differences between the two created a differentiated model with betting maximums for players at $100 and casinos with betting maximum for players at $1,000. for its internet activity, ontario is soon to offer the sports betting products online as well as the casino products. british columbia offers a full range of products. they use geolocation and age verification to make sure the players are age and are located in b.c. or ontario. i will return to europe. the majority of jurisdictions in europe offers sports wagering through their lottery or operators. each jurisdiction establishes their own betting rules, policies, frameworks or outsources it to professional organizations. in 2012, the world lottery
association introduced the global lottery monitoring system, glms. the system went live in partnership with sport radar in june, 2015. glms provides its members on alerts on betting anomalies around the world. they look at them particularly, looking at the betting in their particular market and determines which correction is necessary, including voiding bets and reporting to appropriate authorities. there are 27 global members of glms from europe, canada, south america, asia and africa. the program is planned to be expanded in the latter part of 2016. in addition to technological advancements, professional sports organizations themselves are beginning to introduce measures to ensure game integrity. as an example, in 2013, fifa, fifpro and interpol announced a ew initiative to deal with price matching. and it raiseted quote match
fixing among players, referees, officials, administrators, organizations and public authorities. and to raise the ability of those involved in professional soccer to know how to recognize it, reject it and report it. it is estimated that the sports market could be as much as $4 billion. the legal regulated global lottery business is approximately $280 billion and the u.s. casino industry is approximately $240 billion. the point to understand here is that sports betting is already an enormous market in the u.s. implementation of regulations that ensure integrity, accountability and consumer safeguards in sports wagering can turn the current multibillion-dollar black market into a transparent effective system that keeps professional sports and amateur sports safe for future generations. mr. chairman and ranking member schakowsky, i want to thank you and your members of this committee to for allowing me to testify here today.
i hope my testimony has provided some key insights for systems employed around the globe and i look forward to answer you or your colleagues' questions. thank you. mr. burgess: the chair thanks the questions. opening statement, please. >> thank you, chairman burgess and ranking member schakowsky and pallone. i appreciate the chance to talk about daily fantasy sports. i'm a law professor. this is my third time testifying in front of this subcommittee about internet gambling issues. i must be doing something right or you wouldn't keep inviting me back. at least that's my hope. i should say upfront, i don't oppose or support daily fantasy sports or gambling. my purpose is to argue that if it is legalized, it must be regulated so there's proper consumer protection. mr. eggert: to maximize the experience of players and to pretect them from being cheated or beaten unfairly and also to
make sure that problem gamers get the help they need so that gambling and daily fantasy sports don't destroy the players and their families. one issues that constantly comes up is -- is it gambling or not? is this a game of skill or a game of chance? and i'd like to say that for the people who are really good at it, it's not a game of skill. it's not a game of chance. it's a game of albo rhythms. the -- algorithms. the top players, as far as i can tell -- i read a lot of interviews of the big winners. they are not longtime sports experts. they come up through, many i've seen have come up through either poker or data management. and what they do is they construct these very sophisticated albo rhythms and -- algorithms and import huge amount of data, much more data
than any human can hold in their brain at one time and use these algorithms to spit up lineups and then they can take these lineups and enter them into multiple, multiple, many times different competitions, both high stakes, mid stakes, low stakes. and so you can be just an average recreational gamer and suddenly be playing head-to-head with one of the top daily fantasy sports gamers in the world. and perhaps not even recognize it. that would be as if you're out there playing tennis and suddenly roger federer is slamming balls at you and you're playing for money. the last time i testified i talked about internet poker and the big issue there are botz and the internet poker -- bots and the internet poker industry said it's wrong to use these algorithms to beat human players.
and they claim they can stop it. i'm not sure they can. at least they're trying. in daily fantasy sports, as far as i can tell you, they don't even try to stop algorithms. instead, welcome the professionals who gamble a lot of money every day against people without these algorithms so they have a huge advantage, not because they know more about sports, but because they have more data and have algorithms that can use that data to select the best portfolio of teams. i'd like to ask industry representatives to explain, why is this a good thing to have a few top players take all this money from the many recreational players who are just trying to have a good time? so let's look at what these algorithms can do. they can track, say, in baseball for a hitter to track
whether a hitter is good against lefties or righties or against this particular pitcher. they can track what direction the wind is likely to blow on a given day. they can track when will the sun be in the batter's eyes. i listened to one person who just won a competition and he said, we were tracking the strike zone of the umpire. how many average players can import that kind of knowledge and make use of it? but the professionals can. so what do you do to help the recreational player? you need to limit the amount of lineups that people can enter because people are entering a lot of lineups are either pros or people probably with a problem. you also need to label the high earners so the average player knows, look, i'm going against
somebody way out of my league and can either choose to play or not. you also need services for problem gamers. you need them to know that they can get help if they need it. you need to prevent insider playing, and you also need regulators to oversee the games to make sure that people get paid and that the right people get paid. so with that i'm done. i appreciate you inviting me back and i'm happy to answer your questions. mr. burgess: well, thank you. thanks to all of our witnesses for their testimony and we'll move now into the question and answer portion of the hearing for member questions. i'll begin the questioning by recognizing myself for five minutes. again, let me say, fascinating amount of information you have rovided for us this morning. perhaps if i could, mr. eggert,
before we leave your algorithm concept and ms. slader, how do you exclude someone under age from involving themselves in these daily fantasy sports, you know, where they are and you kind of know something about how they're playing. is there a way to exclude the 18 and under-year-old group from playing these sports? we all know teenage boys live on sports, right? that's all they do. ms. slader: i can speak to excluding individuals. not necessarily about varyfying their age or identity. when geocomply does a geolocation, the geolocation is anonymous so we don't know who they are, where they live, whether they're a big-time player or anything. all we're concerned about is where they are. but if we, based on the data that we have, or the operator of the website decides we need to exclude this player, cut
them off for a certain period of time, geocomply can help with that. we have tools that would cause you to always fail a geolocation and therefore never be able to nt a contest. you could do that by their account name. you could do it by any device that's ever been associated with their account. so if they play on two computers and a tablet, we can block them all. you could do it an i.p. address so their home internet connection or work or wherever they may have ever played. so there's lots of tools at our disposal to keep people out if you singled out an individual. mr. burgess: yeah. but the cleverness of a 16-year-old really shouldn't be underestimated. mr. eggert, how do you recommend that this issue be addressed? is there a way to do it with data, algorithms? mr. eggert: the new massachusetts regulations
require if you want to play daily fantasy sports you have to prove who you are and you have to have only one account and one name and i think that's necessary, both to make sure that minors aren't playing the games, and also to give people tools if they want to self-exclude, you can have a process where they can self-exclude and they just can't come in with a different name. so i think it can be done and i think it has to be done. mr. burgess: ok. that's someone who wants to may by the rules. someone that wants to not play by the rules, how are you going to exclude them? mr. eggert: well, if you have to prove who you are in order to play, there may be ways around that, but at least i think the states should try to make sure they know who's playing and that they're of age and that they haven't excluded hemself. mr. burgess: how do you see
addressing that problem? chairman upton addressed it. the underaged person should not be allowed to play. how do you prevent that from happening? inaudible] mr. burgess: we can't really hear it. >> we as an industry at fsta have always been against minors playing fantasy sports, paid fantasy sports contests for money. our leading providers use know your customer technology. when people sign up they give a whole bunch of information on them. name, address, they run it through databases using third-party companies to figure out if the customer is who they say they are. and then, you node a credit card. you need to sign up for credit card information. the companies don't -- the major providers of daily fantasy, they don't want minors
to play. if they find out if a minor is playing, they'll refund the person in question. mr. burgess: let me ask you. are most of the transactions done on a credit card-type question? bit coins and visual currency for these transactions? mr. locke: primarily credit card, paypal, those kind of transactions. mr. burgess: mr. brubaker, let me ask you and i should be asking others on the panel as well. i don't want to telegraph the limited amount of knowledge i have about this issue but i am just having a hard time with the season-long sports and the daily fantasy sports. clearly those are different avenues. i guess what i don't understand is football, if i understand correctly, is you play a game once a week, even given sunday and yet daily fantasy sports you're playing these same games all week long but there's no actual game being played. so how is that constructed?
how do you actually construct a daily fantasy sports transaction when the games are only played one game a week? mr. burgess: so on daily you bet one -- mr. brubaker: so on daily you bet one game or contest you play. season long you draft your own team to play for an entire season. you are the g.m. of a football team. and you draft the players for your team and you enter them for that weekend. and then the next weekend, if you have, say, tom brady gets injured. he's the guy you drafted. you have to sit him and put a different quarterback in his spot. that's all the work. mr. burgess: you're obligated for the whole season? you can't fire your team and walk away? mr. brubaker: well, i don't believe you can. well, there are waivers and trades you can do with people within your league if you need a quarterback you can trade a running back for another team's quarterback, something like that. those are the transactions that go on in season long that don't
happen in daily. so daily you pick your players. now, i am no expert in daily. i did get a fan duel account a few weeks ago to learn how to play that. and i was playing baseball. so in that you pick a pitcher. you pick a catcher. you pick a first baseman, so on and so forth, and you lock those people in for that game only. you pay your fee and then at the end of that game, all the players that you picked, their stats are added up. and if you beat everybody else you win. if you don't you don't. season long you do your draft before the first game of the season is played. be it baseball or football. you don't know if you won or not until the end of the season after all 16 games have been played. so that's the difference. mr. burgess: thank you for that. ms. schakowsky, you're recognized for five minutes for questions, please. ms. schakowsky: thank you. professor eggert, you
referenced the massachusetts attorney general just issued regulations. i'm wondering if there are any other states or is this the -- for this model of regulation? mr. eggert: i think it's a good model. i know tennessee just issued some regulations. to be honest, i haven't gone through -- i think those are fairly broad bands. i think massachusetts is a good model and can be improved on. ms. schakowsky: one of the concerns that regulations issued in massachusetts attempt to address is fly-by-night daily fantasy sports companies that collect wages and fees from users and then fail to pay out. are you seeing that at all as a problem? mr. eggert: well, right now we -- the industry is dominated by the two major companies. they're far from fly by night. i haven't heard of instances in the u.s. where that's happened. i know it has happened with gaming organizations in the
kayman islands, compa -- cayman islands, for example. i haven't seen it here. ms. schakowsky: mr. brubaker, you're talking about basically the 2% of the industry? because if 98% are dominated by two companies, is your space the rest? mr. brubaker: well, there's been different statistics for what draft kings and fan due to the uel mean industry. there are statistics which is 98% for draft kings and fan duel and other 5% for several other daily providers that do daily fantasy sports. and there's also all the small companies that do season long which would skew that percentage. they're small companies. ms. schakowsky: professor eggert, are you seeing gamblinged a i cans playing d.f.s. and is this a big issue?
mr. eggert: i think there was a recent study that indicated there is an overlap between people with problem gambling issues and daily fantasy sports play. obviously this is a very new industry and the kind of study that would really nail this down takes a lot to do and i anticipate we'll see more of that. ms. schakowsky: thank you. you mentioned in your written testimony that massachusetts regulations would forbid daily fantasy contests based on amateur sports such as high hool or college and the ncaa has repeatedly professed ncaa sports being part of it. why is this prohibition important? mr. eggert: i think it's important to protect amateurs, high school kids, college kids from having someone have a great interest on whether they score that touchdown or fall out of bounds right at the 1-yard line. when we've seen game fixing in
college sports, it's really hard for a college kid who, you know, isn't making a lot of money, will never go pro, it's very tempting to take a pile of money to do the wrong thing. and i think we need to protect high school and college athletes from that. ms. schakowsky: does anybody on this panel disagree with that? k. let me in the time remaining if you could talk a little bit more about what you would add to massachusetts regulation and what might then be the more complete model for states. are you saying the state is the best place to regulate? mr. eggert: i think the state is the best place to regulate because i think there are local interests that are implicated. i think some states don't want to have gambling or daily
fantasy sports which are equivalent to gambling and i think they should have the right to do that if they don't want to have it. it shouldn't be forced on them. ms. schakowsky: talk to me what massachusetts, for example, or any state should add in terms of consumer protection. that's my emphasis. mr. eggert: what i want to look at and these regulations have just gone into play and so it will be good how they work. my concern is i would consider retuesdaying even further their limits that they have on the number of -- reducing even further their limits that they have on the number of entries. we see professionals enter a lot and it may be they overstated the number. i'd also want to look at, they have a form of labeling of i think what they call high expertise or highly experienced players. i think that should be based on your return of -- how much you
make rather than have you entered a lot of games. because someone may have entered a lot of games and not be very good. and they shouldn't be labeled as oh, this is a scary person. the labeling -- ms. schakowsky: could be a person with a problem, right? mr. eggert: it could be a person with a problem. but if you overlabel as the top players and label many people who aren't i think people will start ignoring the label so i'd want to tighten up who gets labeled as a highly experienced player. ms. schakowsky: thank you. i yield back. mr. burgess: the chair thanks the gentlelady and the gentlelady yields back and the chair recognizes the gentleman from new jersey, mr. lance, the vice chair of the subcommittee for five minutes for questions, please. mr. lance: thank you. mr. locke, as a sports monitoring service and many legal international sports wagering jurisdictions, can you walk us through how your technology works to protect the integrity of sport?
is usage of this technology required in most legal sports wagering jurisdictions? mr. locke: sure. the technology is we operate in two -- in two distinct areas. the first is around the technology pray which allows us to aggregate and monitor betting loins internationally. what we do is we model how we expect sports events to look on a mathematical basis and then what we do is overlay what is actually going on in the international betting markets in a live experiment with that. the way we work is we provide factual data on any anomalies, any differences to what we would expect that could indicate issues that need to be looked at. also, from a technology point of view, what we do is work with the sports to identify correlated risk. for example, if you're seeing anomalies with particular players and umpires or officials all in the same game
or all in the same series of games, we will highlight that as well for sports to look into and sports police. the other side is important and the emphasis especially here should be focused around education. the way that we work with sports at the moment is to help sports to understand the environment that they work in and any risks they may be exposed to. a great example of that is, you know, if a chat was done -- if, say, for example, a team player is in a bar, they strike up a conversation. they share the fact there might be a particular injury of a particular player, that -- you know, the guy goes away, places some wages, comes back. he's able to put pressure on the fizzio of the team by saying, -- physio of the team by saying, here's the information and here's the share of the winnings and he feels like he's providing information. our motivation is providing the teams, the umpires, the risks that they may be exposed to.
both in the market they operate in. mr. lance: is there anyone else on the panel that would like to comment on that? mr. brubaker, in your testimony you say state operators should be -- can you give us a sense of how many of your members have players in all 50 states and do you see a path forward for states accepting audits from one another to reduce the regulatory burden on smaller operators? mr. brubaker: so on the states, there's only 45 states that fantasy sports can be played in right now. and so the five are going to escape me at this moment, but i would imagine that most companies have players from almost every state. now, there's not a lot of players in some states. may have, you know, 400, 500 in
a state like new jersey. you may have 20 in delaware, but they are spread out all over the country. second part of your question, sir, sorry? mr. lance: do you see a path forward for states accepting audits from another state to reduce the regulatory burden on maller operators? mr. brubaker: the path forward is for us to get to a lot of states and talk to a lot of legislators and try to get that changed. some state bills that we've seen are just say there has to be an annual audit. it's not quite as specific as some states that say it has to be from an auditor from the state. so there's a lot of work to do and it's, you know, when you're small organization with a small number of companies, that's a lot of work and it takes a lot of time. we will push for those regulatory issues to be uniform across all the platforms, but we're playing catch-up in a lot of these states right now. mr. lance: thank you, mr. chairman. i yield back 50 seconds.
mr. burgess: the chair thanks the gentleman. the chair recognizes the gentleman from new jersey, mr. pallone, the ranking member of the full committee, five minutes for your questions, please. mr. pallone: thank you, mr. chairman. i obviously believe there's a lot of hypocrisy surrounding the daily fantasy sports betting and the daily fantasy sports industry has said that they are completely separate from sports betting despite the fact that similarities can't be denied. the same is true of the professional sports leagues. at the same time they're embracing daily fantasy sports, they're banding together to prevent new jersey prevent sports betting claiming trying to protect the integrity of sports and will be involved in organized crime and all that illegal stuff. sports betting is legal in some states and many other countries, including canada, and the sports world is not falling apart. my questions are mostly for you, mr. gnat. you said in your testimony it that canada has had legal
betting since the early 1990's. is sports betting in canada limited to betting on canadian sports or do canadians reelly bet on -- legally bet on american sports as well? mr. gnat: thank you. in canada you can bet on any sport in any country and even in certain jurisdictions as the sports have continued to gain sophistication, the offerings -- as well. mr. pallone: ok. i have to get through this. have you heard of any major game fixing scandals linked to american sports betting since sports betting was legalized in canada? mr. gnat: not to my knowledge. mr. pallone: there haven't been any major scandals. we know that legal sports betting market in the u.s. you mentioned to be as high as $400 billion. so the integrity of the game argument just doesn't make sense to me. in fact, legalizing sports betting would simply allow for the same kinds of consumer
protections that we're discussing today for daily fantasy sports. so my question is -- would you like to comment on how bringing the current black market, organized crime, mob, whatever, you know, doing all this sports betting, if you bring it out into the sunshine and make it legal, how could you ensure integrity? mr. gnat: regulation just in general brings an environment of accountability, integrity and consumer trust. prohibiting does not do that. it drives an acceptable activity, traditionally drives it underground where you have no integrity in the game and therefore the people involved are not accountable to anybody. and the consumers' interests are not maintained. so i think when you take a look at examples of how it has been done in other jurisdictions, even in nevada, sports betting has been done legally and responsibly in other jurisdictions and as you said, the world has not come crashing down around it. mr. pallone: kind of like prohibition of alcohol, i would
think. if sports betting were not legalized, do you see a way to stop the practice from occurring illegally? mr. gnat: i don't see how you can prevent something of an industry of this size and this magnitude that exists today. mr. pallone: all right. let me go to the fantasy sports, trade association, mr. schoenke, if i can. i know you say you can comprehensively answer any question about the industry because evenhough fan duel and draft kings are not here that i'll ask you the questions that they would normally be here to answer. last year draft kings applied and received a gambling license in the united kingdom. fan duel also applied for a gambling license in the u.k. but hasn't yet received it, to my knowledge. yet, in the u.s., both companies maintain that daily fantasy sports is not gambling. so what is draft kings' rationale for getting a gambling license in the u.k. if they say that daily fantasy
sports is not gambling? and what about fan duel, how do they justify this when they ask for the gambling license in the u.k.? mr. schoenke: the laws of the united states is different than in the united kingdom. if it's under skill it's gambling. in america in most states, if a game has more skill than luck, it's not considered gambling. that's why fantasy sports for over 20 years as an enterprise has never been considered gambling. we didn't have -- didn't meet before congress or at the state level. that's been called into question in the last -- mr. pallone: they're doing the same thing, right, in both places? mr. schoenke: i think the laws are different. it's a different country. mr. pallone: it sounds like one place -- mr. schoenke: if it's considered more skill than luck. mr. pallone: they're not doing anything differently, right? mr. schoenke: it's the same game. mr. pallone: it sounds like the difference in one country they have a lot of smart lawyers or
lobbyists that are, you know, defining things in one way and the other they're not. but the game is the same, correct? the game is the correct? mr. schoenke: it's still a game that has far more skill than luck. mr. pallone: all right. thank you very much. thank you, mr. chairman. -- burgess: the their chas the chair thanks the gentleman. the chair recognizes the gentleman from oklahoma, mr. mullin, for five minutes for your questions. mr. mullin: thank you for the panel for being here. a lot of interest in this. more so than members are interested in it. but chairman, appreciate you having a hearing. outside there's a lot of people wanting to get in. i think there's a lot of unknown facts that people are trying to get information and that's the whole point of this panel is, ok, what exactly is a way we're heading? what is the future? and how is this going to be benefit or negative? and so i'm going to focus just a little bit on this and this is a generic question for the panel itself. is anybody aware of certain
pushbacks, lawsuits, concerns through the states or through different organizations that ave came after online betting? anybody want to take that? all at once. >> i'm happy to speak to that. i have come from two distinct areas. there is a large area, dozens of private lawsuits that's been consolidated as a class action. mr. mullin: what are they concerning? >> number of different claims based on allegations of fraud and illegal gambling. they are in very preliminary stages. they've been part of a federal district court in massachusetts. mr. mullin: on the fraud, what specifically are we talking about with fraud? >> allegations have been made
about false advertisement. insider information has been part of the lawsuit. a number of the games were similar enough they were consolidated. that's a preliminary stage. nothing has been resolved in the course of them. mr. mullin: is that due to a specific group? is that due to the ability to build it online because it's faceless, nameless and unregulated? >> perhaps that's a component of it. perhaps indirectly to answer your question, a majority of the defendants are the daily fantasy companies themselves as well as a few of the lawsuits have named investors and affiliated companies, including payment processors, including some high level successful daily fantasy players. dr. rodenberg: so perhaps that can be inif you ared as far as who the departments are. mr. mullin: what are the qualifications for a fantasy sports group to go online? is there a regulating body that
oversees it that says before you're able to do it you got to comply with certain agreements? we're going to come in, we're going to look over your shoulder, is that -- does that exist or is it just put up a website and let's go bet? dr. rodenberg: in a small minority of states, all within the last couple weeks -- literally for the last couple of weeks, virginia, indiana, tennessee, there's regulations in massachusetts now, those have been recently been enacted and signed by state governors but most of them have effective dates sometime this summer. so it's literally in its infancy outside of formal state-run regulations, certainly a vast majority of fapt is i companies are members of fantasy sports trade association. whether mr. schoenke's organization or others, but that's certainly more of a private self-regulatory model than a formal governmental one. mr. mullin: mr. locke, did -- what did your company have to do? mr. locke: what did we have to
do within fantasy? mr. mullin: to be able to do business within the united states and to keep down the complaints, make sure it's fair, make sure it's on the up and up, so to say, were there certain qualityifications you had to comply with or use best mottle? mr. locke: we don't work in sports fantasy. we work in sports integrity. it helps them protect their events. in terms of working within the u.s., we have not had to comply with any regulations. mr. mullin: so you work with the fantasy betting organizations? mr. locke: we don't work with any fantasy betting organizations within the u.s. our prime business in the u.s. is working with sports to help protect the integrity of their events. mr. mullin: ok. what are the biggest pushbacks, the biggest complaints that we're seeing? is it coming from the state or coming from organizations? is it coming from the sport community itself? dr. rodenberg: related to my previous response. the biggest pushback has come at the state level.
as of two weeks ago, by my account, there are roughly a dozen state attorney generals, from new york to illinois to texas, from hawaii to idaho to georgia, to tennessee that have looked at daily fantasy under the auspices of their state law and they have concluded that it constitutes illegal sports gambling in their state. they have issued whether it's a cease and discyst letter or negotiated letter with daily fantasy companies. within the last six months, fantasy companies have removed themselves from those excluded states. the list of excluded states have risen dramatically from the original five states -- washington, louisiana, arizona, montana and iowa -- to now -- of course, it's suddenly over 15. so certainly the number of excluded states have increased within the last six months. that's the other in terms of pushback, it's come from the state level so far. mr. mullin: thank you for your time. my time has run out.
mr. burgess: the chair thanks the gentleman. the chair recognizes the gentlelady from new york for five minutes for your questions. ms. clarke: thank you, mr. chairman. mr. mcmanus, brick and mortar casinos mandates consumer protections such as age verification, support for problem gamblers. they could lose their license if they don't comply with these safeguards. of course, consumer protections must be implemented carefully and effectively to be successful. some of the consumer protections that have been suggested for daily fantasy are similar to those that have already successfully put in place by casino operators. i'd like to hear from you about how m.g.m. complies with gambling regulations and protects consumers. for instance, are age restrictions on gambling apply -- that apply in every state in which gambling is permitted, can you discuss how you ensure your customers are old enough to gamble legally?
mr. mcmanus: yes, thank you for the question. we only operate land-based casinos. we don't have an online presence at this time so it's a different approach to age verification. we do it the old-fashioned way as you would for several sembing alcohol. you ask for identification. you verify identification. there's extensive training for our gaming staff, security staff and for frankly anyone to question whether somebody is of age. some states have regulations that require you to present identification as you enter a casino. others it's just a responsibility of the operator o ensure that people only of age within our facilities and jurisdictions and i don't know if it's differences elsewhere. the minimum age is 21. ms. clarke: nevada regulations prohibit gambling by certain employees of the holder of the
gambling license. what policies do you have in place to ensure that m.g.m. pros are commige with that regulation? mr. mcmanus: yeah. different jurisdictions have different rules. some exclude all employees. in nevada, we -- if you're a key employee, you're excluded. i'm, for instance, excluded from gambling at our facilities. i could play at a competitor's facility and that's really to avoid even the appearance of impropriety that a gambling game is somehow fixed. ms. clarke: what about casino policies for handling gamer's money? for example, betting pools are kept separate for used seeno operations, right? -- casino operations, right? mr. mcmanus: in nevada we have requirements to maintain sufficient cash in our cage to make sure we can pay winners. again, in the online environment it's a little different because you have an account. typically, most of our
customers are paying for chips with cash. ms. clarke: we're trying to get the distinction kris cal clear. how do your casino employees identify pro-gamblers and how are they trained to respond if they learn that a customer may be struggling with a problem gambling -- problem gaming, excuse me? mr. mcmanus: sure. by no means i am the authority of problem gaming. there is extensive training for our employees. i would say the biggest thing that is uniformerly accepted in the land-based casino industry is making information and help available. there are 800 numbers. they are all methods for self-exclusion or self-limiting in some cases where, you know, somebody has identified them self as a problem is able to say, please don't let me game here. and we enforce that. and frankly our regulators enforce that where we would be
fined if we are marketing someone that self-excluded them self. how someone is specifically identified as a gaming table, for instance, i'm really not the expert on that. ms. clarke: no problem. are there any other consumer protections that your casinos have in place? mr. mcmanus: we have many consumer protections. gaming regulation is exhaustive. it is thorough. the most basic consumer protection is making sure that it's run -- the casinos are run by honest and reputable people and their backgrounds are scrutinized so you know who you're dealing with. then it's every aspect of our industry is regulated thaw -- that you have to do it with integrity from advertising to the games. ms. clarke: thank you, mr. chairman. i yield back. mr. burgess: the chair thanks the gentlelady. i recognize mr. guthrie five minutes for your questions.
mr. guthrie: you talk about scripting tools on daily fantasy websites. a script allows one player to enter or change multiple lineups in many contests faster than a human could, is that correct? at about a d.f.s. site could make it more than season-long fantasy sports? mr. eggert: yes, that's correct. if you have an algorithm that generates, you know, hundreds and hundreds of lineups, professionals use scripting tools in order to easily input those into the d.f.s. site. and as far as how it's different from season-long, i haven't looked into scripting tools in season-long. my understanding is people have the purpose of season-long is to do trades and things like that where people are much more engaged in the game and so their strategy is how to work
with other players. i suspect that scripting tools aren't used that much because people are much more hands on with their individual lineups. but, again, i haven't looked at the season-long as much. mr. guthrie: ok. thank you. mr. schoenke and mr. brubaker, how do your companies view scripts on member services? mr. schoenke: crypts is a new term, new -- scripts is a new term, new technology. they didn't have functionality in their game and so players figured out how to do something on their own and so they developed something to swap out players at the last second if there was an injury. since then, the industry has shifted in terms of scripts. the companies have built a lot more functionality into their game so they can do it. they have also -- the leading companies, fan duel, draft kings, yahoo!, have banned third-party scripts and we've seen this addressed at the state level where regulations in massachusetts and also the state laws that are passing in indiana and tennessee and
virginia, they also ban third-party scripts as well. so i think that's going to minimize the -- any kind of unfair advantage that people would have by using these. mr. guthrie: mr. brubaker answered this, too. are your providers -- under the surface providers, you said, but fantasy games, are they able to detect when somebody is sing a script on their site? mr. schoenke: there's technology they're using. it's best practices. thess regulations and laws make an incentive it do it. if a customer is caught using a cript, you know, there's disincentive to do it. they could be revoked completely. mr. guthrie: ok. mr. brubaker. mr. brubaker: for season long you do a draft before the season starts. so there would be 12 teams in the league and each general
manager of that team would hold a draft and we'd go through all 12 people. you see drafts on tv before. same thing. there's no scripting in season long. scripting is something unique to daily fantasy sports. it does allow people to enter multiple contests. i think peter did a pretty good job explaining how they do it on the other side. mr. guthrie: the previous question, there are two major players in the daily fantasy sports and you represent the small players? mr. brubaker: there's two major players. mr. guthrie: what's the difference? what's a key characteristic of a small player, i guess? mr. brubaker: small companies. small companies. so there are probably 8 1990 providers that are not -- 80 providers that are not draft kings and fan duel. yahoo! is a larger one. many are smaller companies that have 2,000, 3,000, 5,000 players total in their company
where draft kings and fan duel have millions of players. so the scale is completely different between what the two big companies do and the traditional smaller companies, season-long companies that have been around for many, many years. mr. guthrie: i'm about out of time. there is a question that mr. eggert answered it. some made the argument setting a license or registration fee -- i will read it quick. the barrier to enter into the marketplace to keep fly by night running away with people's money. is that a concern in the daily marketplace? mr. brubaker: maybe peter should answer the daily question. dr. rodenberg: in the state -- one of the key components for consumer protection is the funds -- consumer funds be protected so the price will be there. there would be a segregation of funds and that's something we're strongly advocating at the state level.
mr. guthrie: i reesht your answers. mr. burgess: the chair recognizes the gentlelady from indiana, mrs. brooks, for five minutes for your questions, please. mrs. brooks: thank you, mr. chairman. inaudible] in this 114th congress, we have a disruptor series which changes the landscape of the economy and we've explored things like uber and bit coin and now with this packed audience today it's interesting because i think this, too, is something that is really kind of disrupting the way we think about the world of gaming and gambling. i think it's important for us to kind of explore the largest disruptor in the gambling community, the daily fantasy sports, but there are a lot of different questions that we have to grabble with as to -- grapple with as to whether or not we don't want to limit innovation but we have to protect consumers and where do we find that balance and obviously indiana has taken the lead and becoming the second
state in the nation, as i understand, to adopt what we thought was thoughtfully developed legislation, creates the regulatory framework that ensures games are fair, participants are over 18 years of age and that sites allow players to restrict their own way. and while some of the regulatory measures may be are stern, 150,000 hoosiers are participating in daily fantasy sports and they need to have confidence in the integrity of the products. and so i hope that we can continue to explore how to expand the safeguards that hoosiers now enjoy. as -- and ensure we can embrace this new trend in sports entertainment. a couple of questions that i have. my question is, if we don't allow this type of -- well, i learned yesterday total illegal sports betting market in the united states grew to $148.8 billion in 2015. the illegal sports betting.
and so i guess to dr. rodenberg and maybe others, if states don't allow this within their state, won't this simply drive more competition overseas to places -- where are the places that the -- we would be competing with? and can you just talk about that and can the industry talk about that if we don't figure this out? dr. rodenberg: sure. antigua, curacao and are the likely overseas injuries tickses that have book operations that some may and may not offer it to american citizens. that's a possibility if daily fantasy is not legalize and regulated in jurisdictions like yours that would be so inclined there could be an downground market. the technology -- the offering of d.f.s. is so new. i think that's a little premature. you had the figure in terms of the $140 billion-plus.
the overall kind of market of daily fantasy is quite small relative to that. it's -- the estimates i've seen is anywhere between $3 billion and $4 billion. it's a small portion of the overall american sports gaming market. while the important and relevant to the disruption and the disruptor series that you're evaluating as part of this subcommittee, it's still a small portion of the american sports gaming market. mrs. brooks: however, like uber and bit coin and others, they may have started out small but look how they grew. any other comments about the off-shore competition if we don't get this right and figure this out, anyone want to comment? >> yeah. i'd like to comment. speaking for -- i think i can speak for my entire industry here. any form of unlawful gambling is bad. and we do find -- mr. mcmanus: and we do find
these forms of entertainment are not going to go away if they're made unlawful and you will develop a black market if you don't have a legal outlet for daily fantasy. one comment i would like to make when we talk about season long versus daily, for me the distinction on whether regulation is appropriate is whether it's house banked. if it's a season-long fantasy operator who creates a platform for private needs, i see no need for regulation. as soon as you're taking money from citizens and promising to pay back under certain scenarios you should be regulated. respectfully if it's a small business or large business. mrs. brooks: mr. brubaker, you talked about the difficulty with small operators are complying with 50 different state audits and can you give us a sense of how many of your members have players in all 50 states? mr. brubaker: we don't know for sure. that question came up previous to your arrival.
and there were five states where no play is allowed or has been allowed and dr. rodenberg mentioned there was changes since that from different attorneys' generals that have made some decisions. but i would say most of our companies have players in every legal state. mrs. brooks: thank you. my time is up. i yield back. mr. burgess: the chair thanks the gentlelady. at this point i believe all members' request withs for time have been honored and i would recognize the gentleman from new jersey for an additional five minutes should he so desire. mr. pallone: thank you. t me follow up on -- mr. brubaker, follow up on the gentlewoman's comments. you talked about the difficulty small fantasy sports companies may have in complying with different states' laws. so do you support federal involvement? is there a way to do something at the federal level that doesn't force states who don't want daily fantasy sports or gaming to allow it?
mr. brubaker: we'll work with just about anybody that wants to help us figure this out. if it's the federal government we'll do that. if it's going state to state, that's a much harder path for us to go down. certainly if you look at -- let me take a step backwards. so we looked at ugia as a company, small companies did and they saw that in 2016 as a green light by the federal government to -- 2006 as a green light by the federal government to go online with fantasy sports. that was season long. that was before daily was contemplated. so we have companies that are relying on you guys and said go ahead and go start your businesses and they've gone out and they started their businesses and now we have states coming in and changing the game, changing the format. i don't think you'll hear any daily fantasy sports company or season-long sports company balk at consumer protections as long as they're done in a way it's
financially voyable to stay in business. -- viable to stay in business. mr. pallone: maybe that's something we can look into. thank you. let me go back to mr. schoenke again and, again, i'm asking you specifics about draft kings and fan duel which you said you can answer. i want to talk about the so-called insider trading scandal that was reported on last fall. ethan havocle, a draft kings employee, was accused of using information he obtained in the course of his work to help his play on fan duel's platform and an independent investigation cleared him of any wrongdoing noting he didn't receive the information until his lineup was locked. but the report prepared by the law firm that conducted the independent investigation was not publicly released. do you know why draft kings did not release that report? mr. schoenke: i don't have that information. i know they've been pretty forthcoming with a lot of the details of what happened. i apologize. i don't have the -- i don't have the details of that. mr. pallone: all right.
but, again, we're relying on you to answer these questions of the two, you know, of draft kings and fan duel. where did the information received by mr. haskell came from? was that person playing daily fantasy sports? did that person gain advantage from the information? mr. schoenke: the information he had was the number of players, the percentage ownership, which may give you an advantage if you know that one player is -- has a lot of ownership in one player doesn't and so the spernl, you know, mechanism to calculate that and he compiled the report after the game was locked, when it was no big deal and there was an inadvertent release of that. mr. pallone: mr. schoenke, since you say you can answer these questions but maybe you can't today but with the chairman's permission i would like you to follow up and try to answer them on behalf of draft kings, if you would.
all right. draft kings prohibits its own employees and employees of other daily fantasy sports operators from playing on its sites and fan duel prohibits its own employees from playing on their site and other fantasy sites. how does draft kings ensure that other sports operators are not playing? do competitors share their list to draft kings, to your knowledge? mr. schoenke: it's also a component of the laws that we are advocating for across the country and one of the key components that daily fantasy sports companies cannot play on other people's platform. there's obviously a big legal incentive to get it right as well. mr. pallone: how does fan duel ensure their employees do not play on another d.f.s. site? do they share their list? mr. schoenke: as far as what the specific companies are doing, i don't have that -- mr. pallone: well, again, i would ask you to find out. because professor eggert point
out that they have access to spreadsheets that show the players who are the biggest losers on the d.f.s. sites and i'm just wondering how does fan duel ensure those lists are not being used to invite those losers to head-to-head matches and the same thing with draft kings. i mean, i guess you can't answer these things right now, but -- mr. schoenke: we as an industry are advocating for laws at the state level to prevent this from happening. i think that will be a big dennis incentive for any company to allow that -- disincentive for any company to allow that to happen. mr. pallone: i want you to get back to me on those questions because, again, the two companies didn't come and they say you can answer the questions so please get back to us. i'll send it in writing as well so you know. thank you, mr. chairman. mr. burgess: the chair thanks the gentleman. let me just -- a couple things for follow-up. i guess, mr. eggert, even off topic from what we've been discussing. the concept of the amount of we can t -- maybe
direct this to you. the amount of data generated seems to be at the nominal. is this useful for -- phenomenal. is this useful for anyone else in the sport? is a general manager interested in these performance statistics? it just seems like this has the potential for changing the way competition is handled by the -- how well you're able to manage these large data flows. would you meant on it? mr. eggert: i think general managers have an increasingly great interest in data acquisition and management and i think the sport is moving in that direction to be more data-based and less just see how a person swings the bat. it's gotten so far i think there's espn fantasy sports analyst who is good at this -- >> you may continue to watch this hearing online at c-span.org. we leave it now to go live to the u.s. capitol and coverage
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