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congressional district of south carolina, a heavily white district, the home of the birthplace of the civil war, unelected the grandson of a man who picked cotton. in the heart of the south, the home of the civil war, a majority quite district, these voters elected the grandson of a man who picked cotton over the children of the former united states senator and presidential candidate, strom thurmond, and a very popular governor. havehopeful because i experienced the power of a state that has been transformed. the great state of south carolina. pleasemerican family, remain optimistic.
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discussed the importance of supporting our law-enforcement unity. thatll of us to realize although the vast majority of our law-enforcement officers always seek to protect and to serve there is still work to be done. there is a lack of trust between the black community and law enforcement. one that we as an american family must come together and solve. believe an old saying is a vital part of fighting solutions . the alleyway to know where you're going is to know where you have been. as i mentioned, some of the rich and provocative history of -- one to realize that over the past 240 years, we have
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had our challenges here it our nation has merely been pulled apart out of the crisis of our past has come the hope for our future. in a relatively short amount of time, we have laid remarkable progress as a nation. while i will talk about a few of the policies i believe will help is move forward, as well as some things that are more about simply getting us to interact together. descend down and break bread. the one thing our collective history has taught us is that we must not lose hope. there are unresolved pain, suffering and misery, but this ,s the greatest nation on earth
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and we are the greatest nation for a reason. -- opted to sacrifice themselves on behalf of other men and together we have done something unique in the history of our planet. simply -- that is based on the premise that all men are created equal. our path forward be blazed together. as the book of joshua says "we moralo recognize our stones and so we have a chance to move toward." there is no simple solution here. before,ave talked about some which are wrought before congress and some that have nothing to do with the federal government. believe it or not, the government is not the answer to what ails us.
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we can help in places, the good americans, million we as a nation, as a family, we are the solution. the first section of solutions centers around law enforcement and the justice department. over the past for years, i have talked to a wide variety of officials from across the law-enforcement audience as well as groups like the urban league, the naacp legal defense fund and many other groups. be solution that seems to acceptable and almost exciting to -- it's the notion of body camera's. myself orroduced my safe -- introduced officers, my safer citizens act.
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to obtain body camera's and help costs. some of the while we know body camera's cannot be the panacea, we also know this -- if an officer is wearing one, we have a much better chance of understanding the situation from all sides. this is why so many law-enforcement officers and agencies support using them. it is why you are saying cities from los angeles to new york outfitting their officers with more and more body cam was. i also introduce the walter scott notification act along with my good friend senator grassley. it is a patchwork system not built for the 21st century.
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short, this bill changes that. hopefully fix the problems and we must know where we are to know where we must go. i am also glad to see my colleagues in the house ,ncluding a very good friend condiment tray grotty -- trey starting a bipartisan group to take a look between the relationship to the black community and the law enforcement community. i am very hopeful that is some a group will start in the senate. my final point on the federal level is i have had the pleasure of working with a group of , working on this notion of criminal justice reform. i am very hopeful that that work will continue and to move forward and produce real fruit. much of this work that needs to be done won't be done on the federal level, if it is done by
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the government. it will be done by the local government and the state government. i have talked to so many in the law enforcement community who talked about the need for more training, specifically the escalation training, diversity training and more efforts to get police officers out of their cars and into communities, so they can form positive relationships, so that when they are walking down the streets the folks know them. i spoke earlier senator langford who talked about this notion of needing officers embedded in communities so that the officers know the very people they are talking to. this seems like common sense and it seems like the right direction. street.two way i think the dallas police chief said it very well. he made the point better than i could ever say it.
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issues withou have policing in your neighborhood, well, we are hiring. that is really important. dallas police department along with police department's all across this country, they are hiring. he said we will train you up and we will put you back into your community. these are the sort of real-world solutions and actions that build trust in communities. the second set of issues we have to? and this is no surprise. ,ocuses on one specific word opportunity. too many communities in our nation feel like they have been left behind, like no one cares. so why should they care? earlier, i can tell
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you how strong the sensation to quit becomes, how quickly it grows. like i've felt in the past, frustration rises you start seeing the world differently. you don't trust people who are drop dead sure not from your neighborhood. -- who are not from your neighborhood. tackle this problem? education, jobs. on the jobs front, i voted across the aisle with cory booker to introduce the leap act. which allows for a very successful south carolina ram to become a national model so that kids can learn at the exact same time.
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everyone wants to go or can afford to go to college, but that doesn't mean that they should not be able to find opportunities to provide for their families. folks see their potential. i also introduced the investing and opportunities act. it seeks to create a panel for private sector dollars, not government dollars, but private sector dollars to be invested in distressed communities. andave 50 million americans over $2 trillion of unrealized capital gains just sitting there . we should put those dollars to
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be invested in those communities. finally, education. my good friend trey gowdy says education is the closest thing to magic in america. i think he is right. you can look at our incarceration rates, our unemployed rates, our high school dropout rates, our lifetime average income, and they all point to one specific area, educational achievements. almost failed out of high school. for me the answer is very clear. to findents a chance the best school for their children and they will. solutions on a personal level. dallas.turn to as i was watching one of the
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surgeons of the hospital, he was talking about his feelings toward law enforcement. he was saying that he was struggling the night after the shooting. he had worked all night trying to save the lives of these officers. he was tossing and turning, torn that he couldde not save their lives. i can't imagine how he felt. i can't imagine how he felt men,g to save the lives of women who were willing to give their lives for others. i can't imagine. but he was an afghan american man. as he woke up that she was an
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african-american man -- he was an afghan american man. he struggled with his personal relationship. what is he doing? i think this is instructive for all of us. he said he is making sure that his daughters -- daughter sees him buying lunch for officers, sees them interacting in a friend a way because he doesn't want to pass on to his daughter any sense of fear of law enforcement but respect, appreciation and affection for men and women who wear the uniform. hometown.it in my it is an amazing experience. on christmas morning, dozens of officers and dozens of volunteers show up at city hall.
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as 6:00 in the morning, these guys go door-to-door in the poorest neighborhoods in north charleston. i've been there once or twice and they knock on the door and they look into the eyes of little girls and little boys who's expecting nothing for christmas. and they had that child a toy. there are simple ways to bridge the divide between the african-american community and other poor communities and law enforcement. powerful ways simple ways to make a difference. as i have said a couple of times, the government cannot make us get along. your tenet tried before. it simply cannot force you and i to take the leap of faith to try and trust again.
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america is really built on the foundation of faith. faith in each other. faith in a higher calling. -- if we are men to mend our relationships in our byily, we will have to do so looking into each other's eyes, walking in each other's shoes and listening, not waiting to talk. but listening. listening not only with your head, but listing with your heart. feel theou hear and pain and challenges of others. commandmentmple from god's word. 29, to loveversus your neighbors as yourself.
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this is not simply a commandment, this requires action. something. do trey gowdy and i are going to bring pastors and law enforcement officials together in south carolina so that we can have an honest, sometimes painful conversation about how to move forward together. johnson county, i had a chance to speak with sheriff alcan and how --iff alcan and -- -- this is not a one-sided issue. senator langford and i are discussing a new idea called "solutions funding." it is an idea that senator
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langford shared with me earlier this week. the premise of the idea is you have to do more than just go to church together and we as a nation are not doing that very well. you have to eat together and do projects together. you will hear more about that exciting idea coming up. i will continue to reach out to my colleagues, friends who may not look like me. who may have a different philosophy than i do. so that i can understand their hopes, dreams and their frustrations. soause listening is important. as look around our nation, we haven't done nearly enough listening to each other. in closing, i hope we all remember we have survived to relate times before.
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the civil war, the great , 1968.ion, world war ii in south carolina, 2015. i still marvel at how our state responded to the shooting at mother emanuel, the power of forgiveness, love conquering hate. earlier this year, i lost my grandfather. i have not talked about it openly here it he was 94 years old. he meant so much to me. in sally, man born south carolina, in 1921. imagine what he has seen. i can only imagine the life, the challenges and struggles that
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african-american male in the deep south, 1921, 1931 and the 1940's -- he did not finish elementary school. he had to pick cotton. he never learned to read. he eventually got a job at the port of charleston. a job that while he did not give us much in the way of tangible resources, it provided an immeasurable lifeline for our family. now, this is a story that is been repeated generation after generation in this country. i have heard this story from a very different frame from michael rubio. -- from marco rubio. it is a story of success, significance -- it is the story of america. my grandfather's grandson, yours
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truly, a net is state senator, my brother, another grandson, goes to the rank of command sergeant major in the united states army. my nephew, his great-grandson has graduated from georgia tech, duke university and now is on his way to every political school. america.he beauty of from cotton to congress in one lifetime. we are a beautiful nation. we are an amazing family. families fight sometimes. that is ok. we must remember that we are one single family. we can all get to where we are going. we must get to where we are going. we will get there together. i want to one more time
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slowdown, paul's and remember -- and rememberse the second fights by five dallas police officers. the tragedies in baton rouge, and minnesota. we have been through so much but a bright future is still there for our taking. let's make sure we grab it together. staff say thank you to my that works very hard all week long to make sure we are prepared for these presentations. i want to specifically thank my communications director, sean helped puttogether ,ost of these words together helped us work through the
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emotions, the challenges and how to frame the conversation that we believe america must have. directormunications who happens to be a white guy, my chief of staff who happens to be an afghan american female, as we work together, it reminded me that in the midst of our struggles, our challenges, our difficulties, that i depend on a rainbow coalition, a patchwork quilt to present my thoughts, my heart to america. we are america. we are americans. god is blessed. thank you. ♪ >> the hard-fought 2016 primary season is over with historic convention to follow this summer. >> colorado. >> florida.
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as the delegates consider the nomination of the first woman ever to head a major political party. in the first non-politician in several decades. watch live on c-span, listen on the c-span radio app, or get the on demand at c-span.org. you have a front row seat to every minute of both conventions on c-span all beginning on monday. ♪ >> c-span's washington journal live every day with news and policy issues that impact you. coming up this morning, george washington university's law school professor jonathan turley will discuss with bader ginsburg's criticism of donald trump and her apology, as well as the customer sheet surrounding the clinton's involvement with an online university. green party presidential
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candidate, jill stein, will discuss her candidacy and how senator bernie sanders endorsement of hillary clinton could affect the general election. be sure to watch c-span's washington journal beginning live at 7:00 a.m. this morning. join the discussion. ♪ next, democratic presidential candidate hillary clinton campaigns with virginia senator tim kaine who has been mentioned as a possible vice presidential pick for mrs. clinton. the campaign rally was held at northern virginia community college in annandale, virginia. ♪ >> ladies and gentlemen, please welcome senator tim kaine and hillary clinton. ♪
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sen. kaine: hello, virginia! [cheering] sen. kaine: hello, northern virginia community college! [cheering] sen. kaine: i think we might have labor in the house. good job guys. i heard that we had a wonderful presentation from a great example of our dreamers earlier. give it up for the dreamers. [cheering] [speaking spanish] sen. kaine: we have fantastic election officials. if i named them all, it would take up the entire speech. i have to say to our members of congress, give them a big round of applause. [cheering]
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sen. kaine: we ready for hillary? [cheering] sen. kaine: i think that as a yes. -- is a yes. yeah. >> hillary, hillary. >>y otra vez, estamos listos para hillary? a little bit of a vocabulary lesson. if you want to say ready for hillary, it is estamos listos for hillary. when this great group of grassroots folks around this country, before secretary clinton decided that she was going to run and chose the name ready for hillary, and a lot of
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them were right here in virginia. [cheering] it was very exciting for me that they chose that name and let me tell you why. ready for hillary, a powerful phrase and we were so excited when she got in the race. if you say in spanish, it is estamos listos para hillary. the word ready in spanish is a little different than the word ready in english. in english we say we are ready and waiting for the time i'm ready to go to the store. but when i lived in honduras, the best compliment you could pay to someone was not to say they were inteligente, not to say they were guapo/a, o amable, say they were listo. it means well prepared, bien
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hecho. ready to get on the battlefield. you are ready to fight. you're somebody they can be counted on. [cheering] sen. kaine: and we were ready for hillary because hillary is ready for us. hillary is ready for virginia. hillary is ready to be president. hillary is ready to be our leader.
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secretary clinton came from a very tough day yesterday in springfield, illinois. i hope you had a chance to hear her talk about very difficult issues of violence and division and fear and anxiety, but also of hope and unification. it was the kind of speech that, frankly, you do not want to have to give. but tough things happen, and leaders have to rise to the occasion. and she is a leader. [applause] sen. kaine: she went to springfield, a city that is really important in our history, and she laid out the right way to lead, which is about bringing us together. i know she is going to talk about that. what i want to do is ask you three quick questions. then i will introduce secretary clinton. i am asking you questions because this is college. this is like a test, all right? the questions are about the presidency and about our nation. here they are. on the economy, on the economy,
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do you want a "you're fired" president or a "you're hired" president? [cheering] sen. kaine: what is donald trump known for? you're fired. in fact, i predict after this whole thing is over, what will be remembered about the failed candidacy of donald trump is you're fired. and maybe one other phrase. trump u. but he is a "you're fired" guy. jobs, stiffing contractors, being against raising the minimum wage, equal pay for women. if you want a "you're fired" president, you have a choice. but we are making a different choice. but we want a "you're hired" president. [cheering] sen. kaine: it starts with fairness, equal pay for women,
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raising the minimum wage. so that you can live on it. [cheering] sen. kaine: infrastructure and building and creating jobs and growing this nation and doing it in a fair way, education from pre-k to postgrad a debt-free , college plan. anyone here like debt-free college? [cheering] sen. kaine: i told secretary clinton that virginians were pretty smart. you guys seem to know a "you're hired" president is better. so we will go to question two, america's role in the world. this is important to all of us. the president embodies us in the world. you want a trash-talker president or a bridge-builder president? that is what is at stake. donald trump trash-talks women, he trash-talks folks with
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he trash-talks latinos. to him, it does not matter if you are a new immigrant or you are a worker who has been here for a long time or a dreamer or latina governor of new mexico or a judge. if you are latino, he will trash talk you. he trash-talks faiths like muslims. he wants to have a muslim ban. he trash-talks allies and leaders around the wor, alliances like nato, one that gets me steamed. donald trump wants to be commander in chief. [booing] sen. kaine: donald trump wants to be commander-in-chief. he has said repeatedly the american military is a disaster. hold on a second. 1.6 million young men and women
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volunteer to serve and a time of war, 15 years, and you have the guts to call them a disaster? i do not want somebody who trash talks our troops and treats them with disrespect and contempt. he even said about john mccain, who worked with senator clinton on the armed services committee, and has high praise for her, donald trump said about john mccain that he was no war hero because he was captured and held as a prisoner of war. you want the trash-talker? what about the bridge-builder? [cheering] sen. kaine: what about the bridge-builder who served on the armed services committee and worked to make us strong, and work to respect troops, and work to build up and support
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military families, and work to build alliances, and our nation is better as a result? what about the bridge-builder that was our diplomat when president obama came in? president obama said -- isn't it good to have a president who is willing to restore diplomacy again? [cheering] sen. kaine: when he said, i am going to restore diplomacy, he said, i have to pick the one person who can go into any room in the world and be the face of american leadership in the world as we restore diplomacy. and he asked hillary clinton to be secretary of state. [cheering] sen. kaine: so i think we all know. when it comes to our leadership in the world, trash-talking is not enough. we need a bridge-builder. we have got a bridge-builder in hillary clinton. [applause] sen. kaine: last question --
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character. do you want a "me first" president, or a "kids and families first" president? me first -- donald trump -- again, trump u. sets up a bogus college named after capital "h" himself. takes a lot of people's hard-earned money making promises to them and they end up with something that is worth less the paper that it is written on. on paper, it is a success. but what about the people that got hurt along the way? he did not care about that. me first. every other candidate has given their tax returns so that the american public can know something about them. donald trump is different. he is not releasing his tax
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returns and he even said why. the reason is, it could politically hurt me. you think? when you see that this guy does not want to pay the taxes to support all the things like northern virginia community college or the troops that he trashes, when you see that he does not have a record of supporting charities -- he promises he does -- that is a "me first" thing. some of you saw on tv a couple weeks ago, when the brexit vote passed, and the english pound was taking a beating and he happened to be in the united kingdom and he said if the pound gets hit, more people will come to my golf course. i do not want a "me first" president. i want a kids and families first president. [applause] kaine: secretary clinton -- and i have to admit to
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partiality here, because i like in you what i like about my wife, ann. she is the secretary of education in virginia. [applause] sen. kaine: when secretary clinton was growing up in illinois and got exposed to a methodist youth group and exposed to the big challenges in the big outside world like we all do when we are young, you can make the decision about whether you make those challenges your own or try to avoid them. she decided at a young age, i want to make those challenges my own. as a lawyer working with the children's defense fund, first lady of arkansas, secretary of state, making the empowerment of women and children a pillar of foreign policy -- [applause] sen. kaine: but also, you have seen probably the ads that talk about her role as first lady,
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making sure that 8 million kids in this country have health insurance today. that is an amazing accomplishment. [cheering] sen. kaine: the problem with those ads is they are too short. it only tells half the story. it tells getting over the finish line and getting the job done and 8 million kids have health insurance. but remember this when you ask yourself about the character of somebody who should be a leader. she was the leader in a way-ahead-of-its-time effort as first lady to try to get comprehensive health insurance done. [cheering] sen. kaine: she happened to have the fate of working with a tough congress that did not want to do it. that sounds kind of familiar. they worked so hard to do that and could not get it over the finish line, the comprehensive health care they wanted to do.
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did this leader say, let's go to the next issue? kids anday, i like families and there are all of these uninsured kids, but i guess we cannot do anything. no. they dusted off and said, we are not going to give up. maybe we cannot get everything but maybe we can make sure that every young kid in this country will have health insurance. when their parents go to sleep at night, they will go to sleep with the peace of mind knowing that, if something happens to their children, there will be medical care for them. that is the kind of leader. that is the kind of character. and that is why we want her as president. [cheering] sen. kaine: and now i am going to introduce her. this is a tough time. a time of a lot of anxiety. secretary clinton spoke to that yesterday in springfield. she has been speaking about that during her whole career. there is a danger in a time of
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anxiety. it is the danger we are seeing. we see it a lot in virginia. times of anxiety, people are afraid. people worry about the state of the world. one political strategy and donald trump is pulling this playbook, dusting it off, trying to divide people against one pit people against one another, play on people's fears. we know that too well in virginia. there has been many decades of politics like that in our state and all over the country. it can work at times if we are not diligent. that is not what leaders do. what leaders do when times are tough and there is some fraying and there is some challenges and there is some means of communication that have been cut off and channels that are not being used, leaders do not sugarcoat the challenges. they walk right out among them.
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they walk right out into the challenges and embrace them. that is what the best leaders have done in this country since we started. that is what we need right now. that is why i am so glad to present to you our great friend and the next president of the united states, hillary clinton. [cheering] ms. clinton: thank you. >> [chanting "hillary"] ms. clinton: thank you, northern virginia. it is such a great treat for me to be back here and have this chance to appear with your great senator, a former governor, a former mayor of richmond, tim kaine. [cheering] ms. clinton: i appreciate so
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much the leadership that he has shown for this state. now he is doing the same in the congress, and he is working with the three members of congress. gerry connolly, bobby scott, don beyer. we thank them for their service. [applause] ms. clinton: and i really loved what tim said. i like the three questions he posed. think about it. because you really are conducting a giant job interview to decide who you want to be your president, for your community, for your family, for your state, our country, and, indeed, yes, the world. i think what tim said really is worth considering.
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do you want a "you're fired" or "you're hired" president? do you want a trash-talker or a bridge-builder? i like that one a lot. do you want a "me first," or kids and family first? and i really appreciate tim laying out the choice like that. because make no mistake about it, my friends. this is one of the most consequential elections in our history, certainly in my lifetime, where we are being asked to choose whether we go forward into our future with confidence, optimism, and hope, or whether we give in to bigotry, bluster, and bullying. and at some point, that will be the decision every voter faces. and so i am grateful to have the
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support of leaders in this great commonwealth. your wonderful senator, mark warner, your governor, terry mcauliffe. [applause] ms. clinton: in recent years, virginia has had democratic office-holders who have really worked together to build the economy, to create more opportunity. so it is a special delight to be here with tim and others who have really paved the way for virginia to continue to play the important role in our country. i have to say i just saw "hamilton," a great musical. i saw it for the third time, if you do not tell anybody. and i hope you all listen to the soundtrack. i hope you get to see it when it comes to washington. it is going to travel, probably,
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around the country for the next century. but it tells us some important lessons. you look at our founders. virginia gave us a bunch of them. [cheering] ms. clinton: you look at them. they did not all agree. they did not even all like each other. but here is what they did. they worked together and they set the most outrageous, unbelievable goal -- that they were going to transfer these colonies into a nation that could stand on its own with the rest of the world. what an outrageous idea. who could think that that could come to pass? there is a song in this play where george washington, who did
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something nobody expected, he stepped down. he could have stayed as the great revolutionary war general who fought for and obtained our independence as our first president. he probably could have stayed president as long as he was alive. but he said, wait a minute. we are a different creature. we are going to go about this in a way that gives real credence to our aims. so, no, i am stepping down. there is a hilarious song by the king of england, who cannot believe it. what is he doing? nobody steps down. in stepping down, washington said, the eyes of history are on us. we have gone through some hard times. as tim said, i was in
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springfield yesterday. the old statehouse, where abraham lincoln gave a speech reminding americans that a house divided against itself cannot stand. we are in no way facing the kind of existential challenge that president lincoln faced. but we are facing some of our own, aren't we? are we going to be coming together or falling apart? are we building walls or bridges? are we creating opportunity to lift everyone up, or are we scapegoating and finger-pointing and trying to marginalize groups of americans? because if you listen to the presumptive republican nominee, that is the campaign he is running. everything tim said is absolutely on the mark. here is what i am asking all of you -- to think hard about what
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we can do together. because yes, we are stronger together. when we set goals for america, when we listen to each other -- [cheering] ms. clinton: and i have set five big goals. we need more good-paying jobs. we need to provide opportunities for more hard-working americans. we need to invest in our infrastructure, our roads, our bridges, our tunnels, our ports, our airports, our electric grids, our water systems. we are going to be that clean energy superpower of the 21st century. [cheering] ms. clinton: unlike donald trump, who thinks climate change is a hoax, we think it is a n opportunity as well as a problem, and an opportunity that
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smart, innovative people in virginia can address by creating new businesses and jobs. i want to grow the economy so that we have greater prosperity, and i particularly want to pay attention to those parts of our country that are not as fortunate as others. coal country, indian country, inner-city neighborhoods. i want us all to rise together. this is not just about some people. it needs to be about all of america. [cheering] ms. clinton: while we grow together, we will become fairer, too. that is why i want to raise the national minimum wage, so people working full-time are not left in poverty. [cheering] ms. clinton: i got to tell you, donald trump thinks wages are too high.
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i honestly do not know who he talks to. well, he does say that he mostly talks to himself. that is true. he was asked, who are your advisors on foreign policy, national security? well, i mostly consult myself. this would be a good reality show. it is just so serious. it has gone on and on. we have to take what he says at face value. maya angelou said, when someone shows you who they are, believe them. [cheering] ms. clinton: in addition to raising the minimum wage, we are going to do more for small business, particularly women-owned and minority-owned small business.
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and yes, i do believe it is way past time to guarantee equal pay for women's work. [cheering] >> [chanting "hillary"] ms. clinton: i have to tell you. there are some people -- i know there are some people who basically say, this is not a problem anymore. well, if you have a mother, wife, daughter, or sister not being paid equally, it is your problem. it is your family's problem, it is america's problem. just the other day, there was the story of a 17-year-old girl who went to work at a pizza restaurant. she was really excited. this was in kansas. because it was her first real job. i remember those days, when i had my first real job. not just babysitting and things
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like that. a real job. so she goes and she works. another one of the people working is a boy she knows from high school, also 17 years old. they are talking one day, and she tells him how happy she is to be earning eight dollars an hour. he says, i am making $8.15 an hour. she goes to the manager. she goes, well, he never had a job like this before. we are the same age. we have the same education. i think she has been listening to my speeches. so why is he making $.15 an hour more? the manager fired them both. and that is legal. that is why, when i talk about equal pay, it really requires that we find out whether or not people of the same experience, same education, same qualifications, are being paid the same. when i talk like this, i know
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donald trump says there she goes again, talking about equal pay. she is playing the woman card. [cheering] ms. clinton: yes, i see you waving your woman card. yes i love it. , deal me in. deal me in. that is exactly right. when i think about "you're hired," that is what i want us all to be focused on -- creating more jobs, raising income for people, beginning to reduce inequality in income by making sure our economy works for everybody, not just those at the top. that will be my highest priority, among the very first things i do when i am your president come next january. [cheering]
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ms. clinton: now, i will tell you what else we have to do, because i still believe education at places like this great community college is essential to growing the economy and creating opportunity. so here is what i want to do. i want to make community college free. [cheering] ms. clinton: just here in virginia, that would affect about 108,000 students. because here is how i figure, the more education, the more skills that people get, and it is not just young people -- mid-career people, people changing careers, maybe people whose jobs have moved on, i want you to see community college is your gateway to a new opportunity that you can take advantage of. [cheering] ms. clinton: and here is what
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else i want to do. i want to make four-year public colleges and universities debt free so working-class and poor families can afford to go. all across america, i heard about how hard it is for young people to afford to go to college, stay in college, and graduate. i saw this lack, -- i saw this back oh, years ago when i was , teaching at the university of arkansas. i met a lot of students that scraped together the money they needed for tuition, but something happened. there was a sickness in the family. the old car they drove back and forth to school broke down. childcare arrangements collapsed. and they could not go on. so we started something called the arkansas single-parent scholarship fund, and we have now provided emergency funding for more than 35,000 students to
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be able to stay in school, graduate from school. [applause] ms. clinton: i want us to do everything we can to send out three messages. first, we want every child in this country to succeed. that is why we want early childhood education and universal pre-kindergarten. and we want good schools in every zip code in america. [cheering] ms. clinton: and number two, we are not going to tell every student, you have to go to four-year college. that is just not fair and it is not right and you know what? there are a lot of jobs out there that require skills. what we want is for more young people to be supported and
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mentored in getting those skills at community colleges, at apprenticeships, run by labor unions and businesses. [applause] ms. clinton: because we are going to have a lot of jobs, jobs from building infrastructure to coding, creating new apps. i do not know who created pokemon go, but i would try to figure out how we get them to have pokemon go to the polls. [cheering] ms. clinton: and number three, i do not want family income to stand in the way of any student succeeding.
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as tim said, ann, his wonderful wife is the education commissioner in virginia, and that is exactly what she is working on to open the doors of opportunity. so i get pretty excited about this. you know, i am aware that, every so often, they will say, there goes hillary clinton with her plans. she has a plan for everything. [cheering] ms. clinton: i did not know you well, i didn't know you could run for president and say that. you owe to it people to tell them what you want to do. and i think it will help if we actually run on an agenda of
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what we want to accomplish so the congress knows it. everybody is aware of it. and you all hold me accountable for it. so that's exactly what i'm doing, and when it comes to education, we are going to concentrate on making early childhood and secondary hospital and training programs and four year colleges and universities available and affordable to everyone! [applause] and by the way, we are going to help you re-finance and pay down the debt you already have to get that off your back. and people say to me, well, ok, how are you going to pay for it? well, we are going where the money is. we are going to where the money is. that means we're going to raise taxes on the wealthy and those who can afford to pay to lift
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up our country. [applause] i want us to make sure that the wealthy are paying their fair share. because that's who has benefited the most. and even since the great recession, most of the wealth has gone to the top couple of percent of folks. now, we in america, do not begrudge success. but we also know we have got work to do, here, to give more people the chance to be successful, and therefore, we are going to have this kind of support for education that's going to give people chance to go forward, and that will require raising taxes on the wealthy. but i will tell you, this i am the only candidate who ran in either primary who said i will not raise taxes on the middle class.
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and i mean it, and i won't do it. [applause] and we're also going try to provide more incentives so more companies will not only create jobs in america but bring jobs back from overseas so people will work here in virginia and across the country. and finally, we are going to focus on the way people actually live today. you know, it is not the 1950's. you have two parents working. lots of times you have one parent. you have young people trying to get started and get ahead. and i do believe, and tim is absolutely right about this. i do believe that there's nothing more important than supporting our families and supporting our children and now, yes, my grandchildren. so -- [applause] i want us to be willing to look
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at the stresses we are putting on families. some of the most obvious ones are in those early years with a newborn. trying to figure out how you're going to go back to work when you have no paid sick days. you have no paid vacation days and you have no paid family leave. and you're trying to bond with this baby, and you're trying to get this baby fed and find a safe place to take care of this baby so you can go back to work to keep a roof over your head. we make it just about as hard as any place in the world for families to do that. and so here's what i believe. i believe we need to join the rest of the advanced economies nd have paid family leave.
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[applause] going to ds, we are have a great convention in philadelphia. [applause] i have no idea what's going to happen in cleveland. it's going to be -- it is going to be entertaining, i'm sure. if you're into bigotry, bluster and bullying. if you're into drawing lines between americans. if you're into insulting groups of americans. if you're into saying you don't want to let muslims in the country and you want to round up and deport 11 million people with a "deportation force." if you enjoy seeing women demeaned. i spoke today for lulac, a
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distinguished latin latino organization, and you know, sometimes my smart research people give me information, and i find it hard to believe at first. i go back and i say, did he really say this? they come back and show me where he said it. in one of his miss universe contests, you know, that he says he is qualified to be commander in chief because he took miss universe to moscow. and another time he was introducing contestants, and he introduced a beautiful latina woman as ms. housekeeping. mean, really, doesn't it just -- your mind? you go, did he really say that? remember, though, someone shows you who he is, believe him.
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so part of our challenge, my , is to keep this campaign about the future. keep it about what we want to do together. recognize we are stronger together. than l be better united divided. that we are going to work to make sure that america has its best days ahead of us. we are going to make sure every child has a chance at the american dream. and we are going forward not only strongly, but with pride, confidence, optimism, and we are going to win in november. thank you all! [applause]
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>> hillary! hillary! ♪ my power's turned up starting right now i'll be strong i'll sing my fight song and i don't really care if nobody else believes because i've still got a lot of fight left in me ♪ >> the republican national convention from cleveland starts monday. watch live every minute on c-span. listen live on the free c-span radio app. it's easy to download from the apple store or google play. watch live or on demand at any time on c-span.org on your desk top, phone or tablet where you'll find all of our convention coverage and follow us on c-span on twitter and
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like us on facebook to see video of newsworthy moments. don't miss a minute of the republican national convention starting monday on c-span, the c-span radio app and c-span.org. >> people say they have been working for this for like 10 years. it's been a real process. the fundamental thing city needs to be able to provide to host event like this is basically have the capacity to handle this. in the past if they were unsuccessful in 2008 they said they lacked the rec we zit number of hotels but you have to have 16,000 hotel rooms and nearby venues that people have places to go before and after the sexes and other than that, a big factor is fundraising and being able to -- local communities are expected to pay
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for these things to some degree and they fell short and the number of was the hotel rooms and they used the sales tooks provide the 1,600-room hotel. i think in july they got a phone call since then it's been accelerating some of the public works project that's been in effect so one thing you will see is there's a public square downtown that's been made into more of a park than it used to be and there's been a lot of road repaving and run of the middle things where they want to make it look nice. so there's this convention economy that follows the conventions as they go from town to town so there have been consultants here that have been trying to get restaurants
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onboard to help brokeer events and i think for a lot of them unless they have somebody to help them they are flying blind because road close qures are recently announced so they didn't know what security restrictions were going to be in place, but i think a lot of the places downtown are ready and are expected to be busy with private events. but it will be hard to know what to expect until it gets here but the problem has been recruiting the raw number of police officers to get here and they have been a little bit secret about that but there's been obvious times where they have been having a problem getting police to commit to it but clearly they are having trouble meeting some of the early numbers they are trying to reach. it seems they have quieted down but it would be one of those things where at the end of the day people may not know it was
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an issue but it was a challenge for them so they have been recruiting officers and training officers to be ready for it and spending a federal grant of about $15 million on equipment. things like vehicles and personal detective equipment -- protecttive equipment and riot gear and medical supplies. we had a lawsuit filed on behalf of the acru that is resolved that the point but we expect there will be a number of routes fileing a quote, unquote, parade route that the will proceed past downtown and past the cleveland indians ballpark but other than that, it's hard to know because there's alwaysest mats of how many protesters are going to show up and there's going to be a lot of interest in this year's elections and cleveland is a pretty easy spot to get to and where as in tampa in 2012
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-- i expect there will be a pretty robust presence and people set up in a couple of the parks downtown. cleveland has said that there's no barriers for people if they want to approach the security perimeter. so we could see people throughout the streets but i guess we'll find out when it comes. the cavs had al victory parade after winning the nba championship and that brought about 1 million people downtown and so almost compared to that it won't be so bad but we do have a rail system here, so where as it was backed up further cavs parade, it should be fine for the rnc but people will be avoiding downtown because there will be a city ide parking ban downtown, so honestly i expect a lot of people trying to steer clear of
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downtown as much as they can but because of cleveland's reputation or lack of reputation may think there won't be much to see but it area ave a boardwalk-type and people might have a low bar coming in but cleveland is a pretty fun place. >> the house speaker, paul ryan spoke to reporters about next week's gop convention and his legislative agenda and askedability court justice ruth bait err ginsburg's comments on onald trump. paul ryan: good morning, everybody. first, i'd say like to share a
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few numbers with you today. first number i'd like to share with you is 3.4t, the number of deaths in our country from open yoid overdoses has more than tripled in recent years so today for the first time in decades, congress is sending comp hence i have anti-addiction legislation to the president's desk. second number. 11. more than 11 million americans suffer from schizophrenia, bipolar disorder and depression yet so many go without treatment so last tweak house far d tim murphys bill complete overhaul on our mental heavyweight system and of the more than 10,000 known diseases we only have treatments for 500 of them. 10,000 known diseases. so right now the house and senate are workling on throtion
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make sure we can deliver cutting edge cures and treatments and these are all great striveeds in health care and these ideas will save lives and keep people together. i know gridlock -- but we shouldn't -- of course there's only so much that can be achieved in divided government which brings me to my last number. 71%. more than seven out of 10 americans think that the country is on the wrong path. well, if you don't like the country, if you don't like direction the country is going, there is a better way. and this better way is a bold agenda to take on some of the nation's biggest challenges. the way i look at this is we are elected here to serve. we represent our constituents and their views. and when seven out of 10 americans do not like the path our country is on, we have the duty and obligation and opportunity to a better agenda,
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a better way. we are offering a better plan to fight poverty and real national security strategy and we're offering a plan to grow our economy and restore self-government and offering real patient-centered health care and in a plan to reform our tax code, we need a tax code that works for us and not against us. we can do these things. we can take a better way. and guess what? you can all learn about this by gop. to a better plan the person to the right? [laughter] >> you have -- the appropriations process has gone as far as you would like. you have the purposed resolution and pull back on the gun bill, so how are you in any different of place than speaker boehner was? >> i think we are doing fine. members told us what they were
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going to do. it exnires a couple days. they know that. a lot of them are not even familiar with the facts and circumstances so we are going to have a conversation when we get back and look, we are divided government and it's hard to get things done when you don't have a cooperating other party. look at what we have done on fixing our export control laws and look at what we have just divided ioids and in government there's just some things we won't agree on, so we will propose alternatives. >> referring all funding questions were referred to you, has the house allocated any taxpayer money beyond the $800,000 they have received from the house administration committee? paul ryan: how we want our
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committee to keep doing their job and work and by the way i'm very proud that the we passed the c.p.a. this week but i don't know how stedman runs its books. i don't know the answer to your question. >> speaker ryan, if you can't finish the appropriations process before the new fiscal year, would you prefer a continued resolution into december and wrapping up work or would you prefer going boo march as -- paul ryan: first of all, i don't want to give up the appropriations process. we just did financial services last week, we are going to pick up appropriations. so i just don't think it's right a at this stage to say we are done. let's move on. we were going to keep doing our work and not foreclose any options and as a family, we are going to discuss if we can't get all our bills done, how are we going to proceed? >> with that said i know it
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expires in a couple days, maybe try to re-introduce this but get it to ripen over the august recess? isn't that the point that there is disagreement between them and broach by leadership and so it seems -- paul ryan: not really. >> i mean, explain why you aren't -- something like that hasn't been done skins the 1870's. paul ryan: irv busy trying to done and so bill quite honestly i isn't really focused on it and something not a lot of our members have been focused on. but when we return from our work period, we will talk about it as a family. >> mr. speaker, next week you're speaking at the republican convention. i know you want to talk about house republican ideas there but will you also make it a -- space for donald trump's --
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paul ryan: i have not even written my speech yet so i will probably have to start on that today. what i want to talk about is our ideas. i want to talk about the better way, what we are offering and quite honestly i haven't even started working on it yet. so i've been focused on the session. >> mr. speaker. with abc. looking back. it's been a couple months since the zika virus became an issue on critical and looks like the congress is leaving town without presenteding anything. paul ryan: they need to drop politics and pass the bill. the funding level everyone agreed to the contents of the bill people think are wise. they wanted no offset. we partially offset it, the
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democrats for some reason dieted to play politics with it. they needed to drop the politics and respond to this real need. >> senator scott said they were talking about his experiences as a black lawmaker and how he has been stopped by capital police. do you know how congress is reacting to this kind of -- paul ryan: yes, i'm going to print his speech out and read it on the way home. i take everything he says seriously so number one, i am going to read it, because i really want to hear what he has to say, and two, from my conversations with friends in the cbc, we just decided to put together a working group that i think was released yesterday, was it not? but a working group of bipartisan members shared by john conyers and members of the
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cdc and some of our members like dave rite kearse that have experience and have them work together to see where common ground can be had to towards issue of training, community policing and address these very legitimate concerns and issues they think we need to learn and listen instead of just throwing bombs at each other. that's what we want to see in this country. we want to see things calm down and see people listen to one another. there are different perspectives we have that we can benefit from by listening and that's the dynamic ewe want from different backgrounds and committees to see where we can find common ground to be a part of this solution, not a problem. >> it's ban year since the iran deal and the white house
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continues to time-out its making america saver but do you believe that or does it amount to more an appease insanity >> i think they are overselling it. i think they are going beyond he agreement and sending the secretary of state and -- for iran seems quite ridiculous to me and have already proven in this agreement they are not living up to their end of the bargain. and i think it's a big mistake. >> retirement? >> it was a pump fake. >> too far. i didn't make ate three-part. the last one. >> what do you make of ruth bader ginsburg's comments that she would november new zealand if donald trump was president? >> what about impartial judges here? i mean what about impartial judges do we not get here? she may very well be involved in cases or adjudicating cases
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coming from donald trump. -- versus gore? so to make such comments is beyond the pail and was not called for. >> and finally former gop conference chairman, is that a good overture to the g.o.p.? >> i think there's a lot of people being considered and it's no secret i'm a fan of mike pence's and i hope he picks one but there are other good people he is considering and i don't know what he might do and i hope he makes a nice pick and clearly that would be one. thank you.
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>> c-span's washington journal live every day with news and policy issues that impact you. coming up this morning, george washington university law school professor jonathon turley will discuss supreme court justice's ruth bader ginsburg's comments and apology as well as the controversy surrounding the clinton's involvement with an online university. and jill design will discuss her candidacy, the green party platform and how bernie sanders endorsement of hillary clinton could affect the 2016 elections. join the discussion. >> the republican national committee rules committee for the gop national convention voted to reject a measure to
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let delegates vote for any presidential candidate they would like. the rules committee to let delegates cast a vote of conscience and abandon the candidate they have been committed to by state primaries or caucuses. >> all right. let's move now to amendment number 37.1. number 37.1. this impacts rule 37. and it has been proposed by mr. ross of nevada who is recognized for the purpose of making a motion. >> thank you madam chair. i introduce amendment 37.1 as presented. >> is there a second? >> right here. >> i hear a second. all right. mr. ross, would you like to address your amendment? >> thank you madam chair. i'm going to use the b word. binding.
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i think it's fair. i think it's what millions of voters expect. 2340u, why i have enjoyed, up to this point, the many and varied thee logical discussions on how many parliamentary angels can dance on the head of a parliamentary pin, it's time to put an end to those discussions and to clarify once and for all this amendment and one for the following rule that is inserts the identical language into that rule. it's meant to do just that. it's to address arguments that have been going on for years about whether or not the rules of our party permit binding or not. this amendment and a companion amendment for rule 38 will do just that. in this particular case, the arguments that the rights of
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certain delegates to the demand roll call somehow allow them to validate their imbinding would be put to rest. i'm a politician. the voters in my constituency, at the caucuses in our constituency voted overwhelmingly for mr. donald trump. i have no intention of returning to those people who i rely on to keep me in office by telling them i had some part in shredding their votes. it's time after all these years to put an end to this. let's give the people what they expect. that their votes count. i don't mean to be bitter about this. i don't mean to be confrontational. but for heaven's sake, the argument needs to be settled one way or the other. thank you, madam chair.
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>> thank you, sir. irv asked to remind you by counsel that the 9:30 deadline is rapidly approaching. and if you are in line at the help desk at the stroke of 9:30, they will help you finish your amendment. if you walk up at 89:30 and 10 seconds, you will not have the opportunity to have your amendment drafted. is everyone clear on that procedure? excellent. all right. we have had a motion made and seconded. is there anyone who rises in opposition? to the amendment? is there anyone who rises in opposition to the amendment? seeing onone, is there anyone else who rises in support of the amendment? >> in 56 contest across the country into the caribbean and
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out into the pacific, donald trump won almost 14 million votes. he nearly doubled the vote total of his nearest competitor. he surpassed the number of delegates required by over 300 delegates. some, there seem to be a some sort of question whether or not he is the percent of nominee. -- the presumptive nominee. there has been a lot of battling back and forth, a lot of e-mails we get and constant harassment from various people across the country. a arizona, we had presidential preference election where donald trump received 50% of the votes cast in that election contest. 58 delegates, all in arizona are required to vote for donald trump on the first ballot.
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donald trump is the presumptive nominee. there should be absolutely no question as to who we are going to cast our votes for. as republicans, we oftentimes give our elected officials a hard time about campaigning one way and governing another. as delegates, we were selected, a luck to by our -- elected by onlytate conventions, we had to perform one function and that was to vote for the candidate that we were bound to. i urge all of us to vote for this amendment and for the following and to get this matter understood across the country. thank you. >> thank you, mr. ash.
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is there anyone who would like to rise in opposition? is there anyone who would like to rise in opposition? chairwoman.m i rise primarily because it seeks to link a pre-convention rule to a convention rule. submitted anust amendment to this very same topic that provides satisfaction within rule 37 within the convention rules completely and without mixing pre-convention rules with convention rules. i would urge the defeat of this one in anticipation of the complete and proper way to do this, which i am sure all of you guys will embrace. [laughter] will embracehey and then debate what is the proper way to do this. thank you.
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are there others who wish to rise in support of this amendment? mr. blackwell. >> thank you, madam chairman. this matter has obviously been the subject of more pre- convention publicity than any livingatter ever in memory. an importantly issue. people have changed side of the issue. there were people like me who theed to repeal requirements and the rules that were passed by the mitt romney campaign, which prevented legitimate delegates' votes being counted if they cast their vote for somebody who hadn't met the greatly increased threshold. i attempted in
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april, 2013, to pass an omnibus repeal of all the amendments that the romney people pass that we could repeal. but circumstances change. i moved that our meeting in april it's a rifle shot amendment to the rules. focus just on that disenfranchised group of delegates which caused hundreds of delegates to not have their votes counted at the tampa convention. progressed, its became clear that the operation of the rules was going to have both, have two candidates who would qualify, trump and cruz. and suddenly from the establishment forces came the
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idea there are no rules to be changed. the convention writes its own rules. and that lasted until it was perceived that the curruz and trump people might have a majority of this convention, and the position changed. and chairman priebus said we should not amend the rules. in my judgment, these rules for the nominating process could be amended and only one of two ways -- >> the gentleman's time is expired. >> -- after a battle that would split this party. thank you, madam chairman. >> the staff has just handed me the following sticky. two minutes to the 9:30 deadline. we are going to strictly enforce this. two minutes. thank you, mr. blackwell.
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is there someone who wishes to rise in opposition? anyone wish to rise in opposition? seeing none, are there those who would wish to speak in support? >> thank you, madam chairman. from iowa, i, too, like mr. blackwell was initially opposed to binding, but based on the fact that 22 of the 28 delegates at the national convention in 2012 from iowa voted for a candidate who came in third place -- it was an embarrassment and i do not want to see that happen again. in my state, there was a purple state. a new poll that donald trump is leading by two points. and i understand we have these candidates all vetted, but i want to remind everyone but phyllis schlafly who has -- is as conservative as anybody in this room, if you looking for a perfect candidate, you will not
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find jesus christ's name on the ballot. the people who have been sending these e-mails, it's over, folks. we need to get behind our candidate. all the birds came to roost when i was informed by "the wall street journal" three weeks ago they were going to run a negative ad against me. one of these on binding of the delegates. no offense to anybody who lives on the east coast or the west dialect isour different than mine. for pete sakes, why would you have somebody come into my state, who understand the people talk and a midwestern accent and bring somebody would from new jersey with a distinctive, harsh, new jersey accent to beat up on me? it isn't like i wasn't transparent from day one. i told people people in my state support me overwhelmingly and i had to tell you it is an insult. it is over. let's get behind our nominee right now. thank you. >> are there others who wish to
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speak in opposition? . opposition. seeing none, other those who wish to speak in support? >> rhode island. as many of these people find people have received, i have personally have received 440 e-mail's to vote my conscience to unbind, etc. i want you to know i answered every single one of them and the responses back weren't nice. i was very respectful. let me just say this. i will not turn my back on 14.1 million people that voted for donald trump. i will not. i was elected to be a trump delegate. by our state law. i cannot do anything to
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unbind. and my constituency, at least 300 texted and e-mailed me from my state, that voted for donald trump and said, you'd better not vote against donald trump. so, i strongly urge us to begin going, hugging the person next kumbaya, be unified, be happy. we have a better nominee than the democrats. >> thank you. are there any people who wish to speak in support, or excuse me, in opposition? inone who wishes to speak opposition? does the gentleman rise to support? >> thank you. fromme is matt hall
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michigan. it is an honor to be here. i wanted to speak in favor of this motion. donald trump won michigan overwhelmingly under -- we had rules as a convention body that, and a party that those voters came to the polls in reliance on those rules. and that included binding. and so, our voters, our state party when we made rules, our state, only had a taxpayer-funded primary, and all the candidates and their strategies relied upon these rules which included binding. when i was know, elected as a delegate, what was clear to me is that we have a responsibility to honor that commitment that we made to our voters, and the rules that we will honor their votes and their vote will count.
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therefore, i fully intend to support mr. trump. binding undere the current rules. and i call the previous question. >> thank you, isir. previous question is i order. we will move to a vote on closing debate. all those in favor on closing debate on the bennett number 371 aye. amendment 37.1, say the ayes clearly have it. on that one? i am going to call for a standing vote on this. won't that suffice, mr. blackwel l? >> [inaudible] >> on previous question? >> [inaudible] >> all right. we will hold a standing vote. we are moving to a vote on the main motion. all those in favor of adopting
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>> please be seated. all those opposed, please stand. >> thank you. be seated.
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the tally of the vote is as follow, the ayes are 87. the nays are 12. the motion passes. >> madam chairman -- >> yes, sir? name and state, please. >> doug -- california. i would like to move to lay on the table a motion to reconsider. the parliamentarians are telling me the form of the motion is incorrect. what is it you would like to achieve? nd discussion on this thing we just voted on. a motionwant to have to reconsider 10 minutes or 10 hours from now. >> so, you would like to make a motion to reconsider at this time. >> i would like to lay it on the table. vote.t care to have a >> you would have to lay a
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motion to reconsider and we'd have to vote. >> parliamentary inquiry. i understand if the gentleman were to make a motion to reconsider and you had voted with the majority, and you just added to vote no on reconsideration, that would and thing once and for all. >> correct. >> i'm a slow learner. >> request for information? am i not correct, madam chair, that in a motion to reconsider only those persons who voted against it can vote for it? or do i have that backwards? >> the motion must be made by those who voted on the prevailing side. so, if he voted in favor, he is eligible to make a motion to reconsider. >> so, only the people who voted people whothose voted against the motion cannot vote for this motion to reconsider. >> cannot move to reconsider.
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did you wish to make a motion to reconsider? >> i move to reconsider. >> is there a second? been moved and seconded. we will move directly to a motion to reconsider. >> a point of information when we say this discussion is over, what does that mean? >> name and state. >> fred brown from alaska. we cannots reconsider this particular amendment. >> thankyou. ofall those in favor reconsidering this amendment, pl ossey, you have another point to make. >> just for everybody's edification an aye vote on this means that we take it up again. no vote means we don't take it up again? >> that is correct. >> thank you for the clarification. >> all those in favor of the
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motion to reconsider, meaning an vote means you want to reopen debate, all those of people please say aye. those opposed nay. >> nay! >> not at all close. the no's have it. all right. all right. just for everyone's information, we have passed our 9:30 deadline. my understanding is that very few amendments came in at that point. ok, there are still a few coming through the process. we'll continue to move for. 38.1.ent number 38.1, is an amendment to rule number 38 been submitted from the lady
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from colorado who is recognized for the purpose of making a motion. is she here? oh. >> i would like to move, i can't here.t anywhere ok. add the language to rule number 88 to add that, let's read it, to insert the notwithstanding any
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other provision of these rules or the rule of the u.s. house of representatives, the rate of each delegate an alternate delegates to vote their con just all matter shall not be infringed or impaired by any state party rules, state law, ruling by the national convention chair, or any other method." >> been moved. is there a second? been moved and seconded. would you like to address your amendment? >> i would. does anybody need any information about the conscience clause? obviously, this is a very important topic to the hearts of many americans because we have all been inundated with all the e-mails that had flooded our about verys heartfelt convictions from americans and patriots and people from all walks of life who truly believe in the right to conscience. and the right to conscience is not just something we have decided is a cool idea but it is something that is a very basis of our nation.
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it is why the pilgrims came here and founded our nation. it is a god-given right. it is why we have the bill of rights. it is why you cannot force a doctor to perform abortions. you cannot force the mennonites to go into the trap. it is the core of every single american. -- you cannot force the mennonites to go into the draft. it allows people to not be bound by state laws. the supreme court has actually ruled cannot happen within a private organization. but beyond that, this is a process, and this is literally how our founding fathers set up the rule of law, the way our government operates and the party itself is modeling what has been established as the right to delegates who take it extraordinarily seriously the the sanctity of their votes. all i'm asking is that you regard this as the sanctity of
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the vote that is reflected in the duty and the obligation of ballotlegate to cast a according to their conscious. that is a god-given right that should not be taken away by the rnc, by any party or by the state. and it has been ruled that even with the recent court ruling in virginia that the state cannot actually overstep a boundary and determine the outcome of a vote that is to be left to the delegate alone. >> thank you. who wish to rise in opposition? the gentleman from michigan. >> yes, thank you, madam chairman. from michigan. donald trump can win this election and be our next president of the united states. but in order to do that, we need to allow the record number of republican voters who voted for donald trump in our primary to
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have their voice heard. and that means honoring the rules and the commitments of our the delegates and make their vote count. accordingly, i moved to call the previous question. >> previous question is in order. we will move immediately to a vote on the previous question. in favor of previous question ending debate in this matter say aye. any of post, no. -- any opposed, no. previous question does require a 2/3 majority to pass. all those in favor of ending debate on this matter, please stand. oh, goodness.
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audio] >> please be seated. all those opposed to the previous question, please stand.
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>> thank you. you may be seated. the votes are as follows. in favor of previous question, 77. those opposed 21. 2/3 majority, previous
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question passes and we moved to an immediate vote on the amendment. all those in favor of adopting amendment 38.1 as submitted by the delegate from colorado, please say aye. all those opposed nay. clearly the nays have it. ok, we will take a standing vote. so, they tell me i don't have to, because i've already declared it and it's clear. we have been counted, we have stood. we are going to move forward. all right. amendment 38.2. >> madam chairman? i move to reconsider. i was on the prevailing side. i moved to reconsider. >> all right, he has moved to reconsider. is there a second? there has been a motion and second. all those in favor of reconsideration, which means an
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means we can reopen and continue to discuss this amendment. a nay vote means we have concluded debate on this amendment permanently. all those in favor of reconsideration say aye. the nays clearly have it. there is no further reconsideration of this particular amendment. let's move forward now to amendment 38.2. this impacts again rule number 38. it has been proposed mbyhy mr. roth of nevada who is recognized for the purpose of making in a moment. >> i've decided to introduce a logo. [laughter] just waiting for the amendment to come up. by the way, if anybody is asking, i despise this logo and i have since i was 13. i apologize for that.
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let's get anyone. big tough, mean looking elephant with tusks. need to check out liberty, which is the elephant on the cleveland 2016 logo. he is not mean looking but he is standing on a guitar. >> that's an improvement, but you know -- my job title is state with. >-- state whip. the sooner they get it up, the sooner i will shut up. there you go. let's see. i introduce rule 38.2 as presented. >> thank you. is there a second? been moved and seconded. mr. ross, would you like to speak to your amendment? >> thank you, madam chair. this isuage in precisely same as in the amendment on role 307i introduced. for those who voted in favor of that, i thank you and i ask that
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you vote again. for those who chose not to to go ont, i just want the record saying i understand your concerns, and i feel that er there are all ov no more division on this, we are all republicans. and republicans are very individual. that is a fact of life. we can have honest differences. or we walk out of here, we walk out of here together. i'm asking to have this to clarify on the issue. on the role call. this clarifies the issue on the unit roles. there has been some contention for some time that the unit rule inherently. prohibits binding i have said for years it does not. but there have been argument on both sides. said before with rule 37, it is time to put this to a rest. let's go ahead and settle the question once and for all.
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i need to know my constituents when they walk in -- and they don't, the millions of people who vote, they are not rules nerds like me and couple of other people in this room. they are not playing inside baseball. they vote for bill jones. if he wins the majority, they expect him to be the candidate. that's all i'm asking here. i ask for yes vote. thank you very much. >> anyone like to rise in opposition? madama-chairman -- chairman, i would like to move in amendment to this rule, motion. >> please state your amendment. >> i would like to move to repal eal it. >> that is not germane to this particular amendment. you would need to move to strike after we haveuse dealt with this particular item. >> thank you. >> thank you.
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is there anyone else who wishes to rise in opposition or support for this amendment? mr. lee? >> i rise in opposition to this amendment. i think it is important for us to remember that as members of this committee we can make any change in a rule that we want. ose toegates, we can cho vote for whomever we choose on the floor, assuming the rules allow that. has bef the focus today en understandably on expanding our party and making its appeal broader. making those who have felt excluded from it feel more included. and that is important. we send the opposite signal every time we take our rules and clampdown our rules further. we make it last possible for delegates to exercise their rights to have

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