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hamza shaban. , they areing data compiling information, they are placing it in the help files on virtually every american consumer in many consumers worldwide. >> watch the communicators monday night at 8:00 eastern. c-span2. generationllennial reporters discuss the 2016 presidential campaign. this is hosted by the committee of 70. an advocacy group based in pennsylvania. it is about an hour.
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>> welcome. i'm david thornburg. president and ceo of the video 70. we are delighted to invite you to what promises to be an energizing and insightful evening. want to introduce a great friend. nick marciano, president of the young involved philadelphia group who is partnered with us to say a few words. >> thank you, david. young involved philadelphia is committed to promoting active citizenship and creating emerging leaders in philadelphia's young population. we are very proud to partner with the committee of 70 as we do what we often do and that is
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provide the context and connections so that young people can make sense of the news and turned that into action and positive change. thank you, david. ofhow about a round applause? [applause] i'm discourteous a few words to set up -- just going to say a few words to set up a conversation. some of you, if you are a student of the game of that and 1972, probably still one of the classic looks on political reporting was written about the presidential campaign called boys on the bus. a few years after and it discussed the pact to know some -- journalism of the time dominated by bigfoot journalist to back in the day, people like dan rather or johnny folks like that, were
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dominated by the field, here we are fast forward to 2016 and exempt changed in my view in the view of a lot of you. two, small one or packs of bigfoot journalist, we have a lot of feet running very hard feeding a very active stream of news, all the different ways that we produce and consume news and ofnificantly, the pack journalists covering the generation has gotten younger and more diverse. in light of that and as we kick delta, dnc we care until we thought it would be great to gather some of those journalists to give us an inside peek at what covering a presidential campaign and this most is our presidential campaign -- bizarre
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presidential campaign is like in the year 2016. that is the content for the evening and i look for to a great conversation that i know will be guided with great humor and energy and which and wisdom because my friend, civic engagement consultant chris will be meeting the conversation. all yours. >> thank you, david. great to see you all. let me introduce the panel. i will remind you that you have cards at your seat if you want to pass questions along for us to ask for the end. we have a lot of ground to cover. we have four people who have been working very hard to cover the election so far. iller, far end, zeke m political reporter for time. cover the 2012 campaign. producer.cal
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jenna johnson, washington post. been there since 2007. and next to me is someone whose voice is very familiar, scott of npr. former harrisburg corresponded. -- correspondent. let's welcome them all. [applause] tonight we went to spend a little time talking about these reporters about what it is like to be on the campaign trail and what they have learned while on the trail. several of you were in cleveland. let's start with the question, impressions from those interesting four days in my old hometown? >> they were very interesting.
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the tone of donald trump campaign up until now has been pretty heavy. in his eyes, america is completely on the wrong track and something needs to happen right away where the country is going to cease to be. tonere wondering if that was going to continue or not it to the general election and the convention showed us that it is. he gave a speech thursday night that was 76 minutes long and laid out, and pretty heavy detail, everything that he sees that is wrong with the country and i think we're going to see a very different tone here in philadelphia this week as the democrats hold a convention. that was my big take away and that is the tone he has said. this is an election where there are two very different choices
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and as i'm sure you're going to be listening to this presentation, two very different campaigns to cover. our expenses are so vastly different -- experiences are so vastly different. >> i was there as well. for me, the most notable events from the convention not happen at the convention, it happened the next morning. patty murray, donald trump in a press conference, it was a thank you event for people to work on his campaign supporters. a thank you so much, this is the greatest invention ever. great ratings. oftead, you got a rehashing of the 2016 primary process and the redirection of the charges against ted cruz and ted cruz's father being involved with the kennedy assassination. all of that came back. the day after the guy claimed the presidential nomination, accepted the nomination.
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we write a lot about the difference in tone, we write about the two donald trump. the very scripted one we saw in the 76 minute speech and off-the-cuff god who is probably more familiar to everyone on television. which you commit -- would he pivot? donald trump is who he is. there is no lasting permanent pivot. there are days where he will be on at teleprompter and is where he is not. or saying chris christie theories. -- conspiracy theories. campaign-finance aspect for npr, over you doing in cleveland? doing, itocused on has changed at the campaign has gone on. when you have one campaign that is not embracing data analytics at all, it is tough to make that a permanent feat.
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hat is the focus npr is folks in. the clinton campaign has hundreds of people looking into the stock. coverageking a zone approach to the campaign and we have a couple people with clinton all the time and another person come in the campaign for trump. the rest are covering the campaign through this lens of taking one angle or another. cover the demographics, tech angles, how intersects with pop-culture and we all covering the day-to-day stuff as well. i was generally seen everything going on in cleveland and summing it up in the morning edition each day. did you get to the bottom of why the video kept flickering? >> somebody said of his like a great episode of charlie rose. they did not mention our cleveland, how fluid everything was.
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there was a lot of trepidation going to cleveland about violence, things that were not organized, i think the total number of arrests were 30. something like that. especially after a very tense summer so far, that was nice. >> let me ask you a question, we apologize for the name of this event, girls in the boys on the above us, it hurts on your relative youth. this is either first or second president campaign for everyone on the panel. could you talk a bit about, let's start with dan, about how having a fresh take on campaigns might have been a benefit for you in a campaign which has exploded the conventional wisdom repeatedly? any moment out on the trail doing logistics or journalism where you said, i wish i had done that before? wish someone had told me that? >> i was lucky enough to start
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covering the clinton 2.5 years ago. before she was a candidate. she was on a speaking tour so i got to know a lot about her and her people. it folded into the campaign pretty early on. i have been doing this for 2.5 years now and are sometimes i think i wish i would have known this before or i wish i would have noticed from 2008 or 2012. i do think there's a benefit. probably more apt on the trunk p campaign thatm he covered such a unique candidate that you are not bringing ideas and the way things were for the mitt romney campaign or john mccain campaign or barack obama campaign. you're seeing it through a fresh lens. that says, it is important when you cover has candidates, you know people. all these people continue to be in politics and continue to work for candidates. especially the clintons.
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there are decades of people who have worked for her for over 30 years. that was something i had to grapple with and eventually get over. i do think you are right, coming into the campaign of trump with a fresh set of eyes would be a positive thing. covered to governor's races and i covered scott walker's presidential candidacy for about two weeks -- two months. >> long time. [laughter] >> are ever him from start to finish. is, you know, there was nothing that could prepare, anyone, even the most decent or seasoned campaign reporter for covering donald trump. they did everything totally differently.
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early on, i started covering him in september. just figured out where he might be, this was before he had secret service protection. that did not kick in until november. he would kind of sometimes just decide to stop in south carolina on his way to florida until the staff to rally some people of. >> we never had that problem with the clinton campaign. we had a staff or we would know where she would be in a week. a multistate bus tour. that was never an issue. >> i would say one thing that prepared me for this was when i covered island politics i covered the maryland owners race in the seat of maryland was a very blue stated they had to democrat for everyone registered republican and larry hogan is the governor and he is a republican. we were stunned on election night.
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it took people off guard. it surprised people because all of the polling had been showing that the democrat would win the race. i had been out there and i had been talking to people and i had been feeling a lot of momentum but it is hard to gauge if the momentum at a parade should really outweigh a poll and things like that so i tried to an open mind.with i think a lot of happening in america. a lot is going on with voters. anything can happen. when i started covering donald trump in september, i did not think he would be the nominee. but the more time i spent out on the trail and the more people i talked to, i knew that he had a very good shot of doing. >> if we could stay with that. those of you who have covered
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trump, what is your sense from those voters of what it is that is clicking for them? it is easy for us to make assumptions that are not fair. >> a lot of it is just the general anger and frustration of the country and a lot of causes. use, if yous that i look at the fundraising arm of both parties, makes plain heart of the standard rise, he didn't e-mail, 17 of them a day that say, donate and we will change this or repeal that has nothing or to work, not go to work, or do some great thing. sunshine and rainbows. if you click this button and donate. yearsas been going on for in politics and fundraising is nothing new. but it is more personal for more americans. the last four or eight years, republicans have raised roughly
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$6 billion for all the political causes. and for that money they got essentially nothing. they won the house, when the senate, did not repeal obamacare. did not undo obama executive orders. the donatorsame to who thought they had been exploited. they had a right and that assertion. they were quoted by these organized parties by the establishment. thatemocrats also and saw frustration. these were folks who had been tapped into, people, they went out to vote, they felt they were and forn investment some people, that is about and the other one is just a lot of people are not feeling the economic recovery. a lot of data out there and studies on this, people are not feeling it in people, the social
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demographic concerns. those are some people who are set in certain ways and not have found -- or don't want to adapt to the modern society. although things taken together gives you donald trump and a certain extent, a little bit of that bernie sanders wave. >> was very moment when you were talking to a trump voter and something clicked and i get what going on? >> there was a moment early on. i went to the oklahoma state and to aklahoma city big rally. >> do they have fried butter there? >> i'm sure they did. iowa, itf us living in was not the iowa state fair.
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>> there were thousands and thousands of people there and one of my first big rallies and on stage was a live bald eagle and a number of duck dynasty -- member of duck dynasty and lip sinkers. i was like, they are all here for the show. this is a big show. industry. -- it is free. i went around and i talked to probably a dozen people and everything a person i talked to one of donald trump to be president. they are tired of politicians. they are tired of people being politically correct, they are tired of paying taxes and feeling like you're not getting anything out of it. they're tired of their small towns. especially in oklahoma, hilltown drying up. towns drying up.
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this moment where these big crowds are not just there for the show. there are people at every rally could just want to check it out. that was a big moment for me. >> if you look at the big tea in 2010 and 2014 and you look at the way that challengers would take out incumbents for commercializing -- compromising. you would not think the guy who donated to hillary clinton who had hillary clinton at the wedding and was pro-abortion rights would be the person to benefit. it seems like as the has gone on, a lot of that wav has lefte ideological purity and more about the anger and frustration if you like this country is moving on without me whether it moving and places i'm not or being told by the media or supreme court that i have to be ok with same-sex
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marriage when there are a of people who are not at that point . amex of a social issue and overall stagnation of the economy and i think the line that donald trump had that i will be your voice, that boils down to a lot of how supporters feel about this guy, whether i don't believe what he says or whether i think he is changing his mind, i think he's going to come and advocate for me and i like that. >> when we were standing around before we came out here and all of you had a sandwich in your other hand was your phone and you were all in a constant stance of the political campaign reporter of modern times, can you talk a bit about the role social media is playing in this moments and talk about where you think of some extraordinary well used orbital was when it has been disastrous? >> most interesting thing to me is come i said before that donald trump campaign is not embracing tech and a lot of
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traditional ways. but the way that twitter drive to campaign messaginand the way that he has been able to use twitter to basically program how we all cover the news. when he tweeted about the money nia trump thing. it was was human. it was wednesday market i saw the tweet it was on the cover of cnn 30 seconds later. just the way he is able to drive the conversation by sitting there with a phone is something that is impressive and not something yet seen before. >> hillary a struggling? >> i don't think she response as quickly as donald trump. i don't think anyone respond as quickly as donald trump. [laughter] she has a full team of digital staffers who decide on a tweet he will send and then it gets through a few approval processes if it has a -h it will be from her.
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that is not my understanding of how donald trump works. he dictated to 18 and then it is tweeted. >> he shouted out to one of the young women working in his office and type it out for him. hours -- this is how we explain it a few weeks ago, i think there are more checks in place now. if it is after hours, it is himself. those one akaka and tweets, he tweets, he0 a.m. says he is the one who writes of them. >> donald trump campaigns programs the way we cover news. hillary clinton uses statements and other ways more often. the way we get our news is almost all by twitter and a few other sources. bp tim kaine, when the whole
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process was going on, i set my alarm come but the bed at 1:00 a.m. and set an alarm at the clock a.m., babcock a.m. to make sure nothing broke overnight. i don't do that every night. >> you will. [laughter] >> that is how connected we are. there are passages in the book, boys on the bus, how reporters filed their daily stories and how to be reporters filed her to be reports. that is changed radically over the last eight years. >> less danger can now -- day drinking now. >> tragic change. [laughter] >> twitter has changed how we do our jobs. our colleagues are also breaking news that we all have to know about. >> fair to say that the other thing about donald trump's use of twitter is that he also was using that to get feedback,
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another sandwich of his message for sticking. rather than waiting on polls he would get instant feedback. >> it seems like he synthesizes what is out in the use -- news, takes what is in and puts it out on twitter. he knows what we are talking about and therefore he comments on the stories that are the big stories of the day. almost guarantee that that tweet gets attention. >> he moves with the news so quickly and -- >> sometimes a detriment. >> true. before the south carolina primary, word got out that the pope had said something about donald trump and there was an embargo on what the pope had said and before the pope's words were even recorded, donald trump hall and a small town
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give a statement criticizing the pope. idea what he was talking about. we are all on our phones try to figure out what he was responding to and within minutes , an ap story pops up that had it in theire and people are splt on if that works for him or not. >> the clinton is more than happy to have donald trump dominate the media. i don't figures concerning brooklyn that he -- that there was she could break in. their opinion is more often than not stepping on a positive message or making something worse for himself. to bring a little bit of the context to 2012, twitter has been around for a while, this is not the cycle in which, 2012 was the first election -- in 2012, a
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cost to complete you would hear from the roman campaign was how do you tweet that out. they hated twitter. it drove them crazy. they'll get it nasty thing from another campaign and staffers would grab between and send it around headquarters. you get 1050 e-mails because they were unhappy -- 10-50 e-mails because they were unhappy. in a lot of ways, it came into, it had its time in his prime and 2012. now a lot of people early on before donald trump, and had subsided a bit. it is still home to political conversation, that it is less of an outreach tool. the way down cap has mastered it, it is not an outreach tool,
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the people running a couple cars desks, twitter is still this insider told. most people, it is not a tool for the masses. maybe snapchat or illegal. -- where you would go. it is where you want to talk to people like us. thatwould just add reporters go to these rallies and they sit there donald trump's speech and pick out with a think if the headline of the speech. that is been happening for decades. nowadays, thousands of people will be watching his rally twitternd chiming in on asking a couple times where he will say something that a lot of that to says before reporters it is not new, but it will take on a life of its own
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on twitter and all of a sudden it becomes a headline. >> we have written that story before and now you're on another one on the same subject. i wrote but it is news now. >> i think that is one thing i try to keep in mind throughout the presidential campaign is that things that are old news to us, things we thought about for months, the vast majority of america is not paid that much attention. they are checking in here and there, seeing something on the facebook feed, but all this is old hat to us but new to everyone else. the majority of america is not coming to these rallies. i always try to think about the context when i'm writing my story. take a step back and limited a way that this has been happening for months, this is what he is saying this. and just assuming that readers and listeners are not following this down to the millisecond. >> before move away from the topic of twitter, i neglected to
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#boysandgirlsonthebus. dan, i will ask you an unfair question. you are the only representative of tv news that i had to ask his question two. to.his question the latest count i could find of the so-called free media that tv has given donald trump is 2.8 1.2 billionared to for holy clinton. -- hillary clinton. cnn,clinical producer for -- political producer for cnn, more and more talk about how donald trump dominates news .itles -- cycles does that come up in your news meeting stucc? >> i am not in the media because
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i'm on the road. there are times where i'm not at my house for 90 days. i don't go to these meetings. i will say that donald trump, as the ball set up your, donald trump drudge a lot of attention -- donald trump drives a lot of attention and he would got a lot of free media. there is a reason that people are interested in him. it is our place at , thatto say this is wrong they should not be interested. i think we as journalists report the news report was in pretty good a lot of the time there's interest in what he is saying and they -- i think we have responded to that. that is my personal opinion. are think that there questions that should be asked and have been asked and i guarantee they are asked internally. i don't think that it is on
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reporters and us to judge what people are interested in. a lot of people are interested in donald trump. >> in defense of my tv colleagues, markets went down. the problem with a lot of those calculations is that donald trump gets a lot of free media, that does not mean it is good media. the mountain air time those devoted to donald trump calling john mccain a loser because he got captured as a prisoner of four, not a hero -- prisoner of war, not a hero. those in the coverage for days. >> he is running against somebody who is not exactly open regularly to the media. >> we don't want to be a journalist saying you can't talk to reporters because you talk to reporters too often and your opponent does not. in a lot of respects, what
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donald trump is doing with the press and how accessible he is is somewhat commendable. where hillary clinton has not done a press conference where we ask -- >> she is not on an official sit down press conference since december 4. ,he's not done a form of gaggle i think tomorrow is 50 days. i have taken on the -- there is certainly something to that. when holy clinton does a few interviews a week, donald trump is calling up his reporters in doing extensive interviews because press conference is more often. interviews more often. i think that is a big reason he is getting more attention is that he is just more accessible.
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i don't think the clinton campaign lines. -- minds. not all press is always good, even though doctrine disagrees. -- donald trump disagrees. >> one of the conversation like with the media people for the clinton campaign in terms of try to get information and access? >> in terms of information, it is fine. they are more than happy to share information and where we are going and back down -- background information and reporting. has also a press conference in that is a frustration inside the press sometimesas led to acrimonious relationships with her spokespeople and complaints and i think they get it to a degree. it has been 50 days and we have been complaining for a long time.
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the thing that i've learned is what works to get them to respond is public pressure. a series of bad stories about her being not accessible. how that contribute to trust and honesty questions about her and i think the stories propelled them to have her be more successful -- accessible. donald trump also uses the press corps as a prophet rally. -- prop at rallies. sometimes it is within minutes of him taking the stage and you know that he is mad about something and he will say, look at those cameras back there. those of the most dishonest people in the world. he likes to yell at the main camera focus just on him.
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notill yell at them for scanning the crowd. every network does not have to have a camera at the event. the five numbers pool one camera to shoot the event someone has a same footage. that camera is required to stay on whoever is speaking. barring some interesting thing. he was complaining that they don't show the crowd. right. this is been one of his rallying cries. the media is not light right now. >> we have a reporter on the band list. >> the washington post has been
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banned from getting credentials to cover donald trump events. but we are so covering him. a lot of trouble reporters -- trump supporters will tweak about us and say we are not allowed to be at the rallies. that is not how works. [laughter] it is a household -- hassle. it has made our reporting richard. i get to rallies several hours early well my several -- fellow reporters are taking a nap or working out or going golfing. >> i have no idea what you're talking about. >> i wait in line and i chat with the people in line with me, i listen to what people are talking about. most of the time i get in. one time in houston i waited in line for four hours in 97 degrees heat and did not get in. sometimes it will start pouring
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rain and you just have to stand there and held together with other people under an umbrella in the go in and i sit in the stands in a mail to hear what people are shouting out. see and feel, when you were sitting in the stands, you can feel when people are laughing or stomping their feet and things like that. and that way, it has been an experience that has helped board -- helped our reporting. back tot to circle something you alluded to briefly earlier, the role of data. big data, micro-targeting of voters. after the obama campaign and the talk of the success of that and people thought this is going to be the way a presidential campaign will work. and talk about the difference of the clinton and trouble approach? -- trump approach?
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>> clinton has taken every lesson of the obama campaign and applied it to the lenten campaign. many of the campaign staffers who are doing this work for hillary clinton. they did that for barack obama in 2008 or 2012. a whole range of things. one of the marches things as i thethere digital get out vote push before each primary for the, they have an ongoing tech conversation with people who sign up for the text messages and it is interesting to see that the wolfram just hey, honey is in your area -- hillary is in your area. the transmitter to make it seem the cairo conversation you have a someone. in the days leading up to a primary, they were taken to hey are you planning on voting? what are you planning on doing? morning or afternoon? take a bus? if you do that and they remind
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you tuesday morning to do that. doing the door to door, phone banking thing but a digital way. -- trumpouble approach approach? >> so many things we grade him on a curve for. script on hisff acceptance speech, that is amazing. [laughter] you did see an uptick over the last few months of the trump cap entry after the finance report cannot that showed donald trump with less money than a sears house campaign. you saw a push to do e-mail fundraising, push it up fundraising for text messages and to report to my last week that it worked. they want from less than 2 million on hand to 44 million on hand. bar is kind of the basic for mythical -- couple cycles ago. the donald trump campaign is outsourcing to the republican national convention -- committee
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a lot of the voter targeting. it is not like this is happening not at all. , they clinton campaign have as of last month she had 100 organizers in pennsylvania and 100 organizers in ohio. donald trump at that time had less than 100 nationwide. fromw many television ads the clinton -- the clinton and donald trump? trick question, he is not run any talk. -- at all. >> they invested the way the obama campaign did. >> there have been surveys where people have said they think they have seen donald trump adds. [laughter] >> all that free media. >> he is on tv all the time.
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he also has a lot of ads and videos on social media and instagram and facebook that they are putting for little money into but are getting a lot of use -- views. >> you all have been working hard. arehere one story that you proud of and you want everybody to go home and google and read it? is there another story that some other reporter did where you want, i wish i had done that? story.can give my [laughter] we wrote a time about this last month, touch on a few points on how the clinton and trump operation be the campaign wildly different from mechanics
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to the state of the electorate. which you will see in the next couple of days. to have a view governing. asymmetry. refresh the page if you don't. a free shameless laws. >> click the ads. that is one of the ones i'm proud of. i would say the new york time feed a couple weeks ago on wasld trump foreign policy really the first time he had depth oned hard and in a few specific all to proposals and the example of mostly political folks and they brought
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it to form policy stuff. -- foreign policy stuff. one of the best people in that field of foreign policy journalism and put them on the phone with donald trump and the room with him. one of the best and most interviews -- revealing interviews of the campaign. >> early on i was a story about hillary clinton and the man who shaped her faith which was her youth minister to minister to and was theres much in touch with her director .or years at wellsley her father was a republican and she was a republican. she credits this minister with basically opening her eyes. he took her to a martin luther king speech. he introduced her to the idea of black laborers and changed her worldview and they corresponded in letters.
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he introduced her a lot about politics that shape the way she is today. and a method that she is a two. and she left given that famous graduation speech and what not to be in life magazine and what she's doing now. it was about that. jones and that of the piece i'm most proud of. i think maggie story of the interview in the new york times is great. ruby cramer at the state run a phenomenal story about who the clinton is and who she has been for the last 30 years. interview with her and really come as something as well and took a long touch right and it shows because of is very well i think wasrt and called -- >> lovingkindness. >> she had been on the trail about how we were loving and
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kindness. it incorporated every thing from her faith to her upbringing to she is and how she got there. shameless plug, i read a story back in january about the donald trump town. the towns where he goes and hold rallies. the story idea came about because i was traveling to these beaten-down industrial towns where the hotels were not great in we were in arenas that were falling apart and you just sensed that you are in different places they put a rallies usually are held. i looked at the census data of all the places with donald trump is going in almost every single one of them, the mean income -- mean income was below the national average. rate of college degrees was
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lower, homeownership rates were lower, salaries were stagnant and a lot of them had strong pockets of minorities where you have racial tension but yet the rallies would be all white and i based the story in the will, massachusetts. a former rivertown and talk to the people there about why they were there and drilled into why he was going to these places. ,s far as recommendation transcripts would be my recommendations. i'm stealing years. -- yours. the media gets hit for not asking, from part questions. but he has been asked, there have been some great interviews, the david singer, maggie hagerman interviews, two different series on foreign
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policy that have been strong for the washington post editorial boards sat down with him for more than an hour and just peppered him with question after question and some of the sunday morning shows when he gets on meet the press, especially when he stood them in person or when he sat down with jake tapper and talk about why he went after judge curiel for having mexican heritage. , it has donald trump been difficult to hammer, then him down on where he really stands on a lot of issues. he can dance around. i was really admire reporters were able to ask a question after question and get a solid answer. >> one thing that jumped out to me, a kind of fun story, we were having a newsroom conversation around the time that bobby knight endorsed donald trump and we were like, he picked every
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high-profile jerk from the world of sports is backing donald trump. mike tyson, bob and i, dennis rodman. a lot of people. we should do a story on that. pete rose. ,e into it and it was a fun from a talk about tech, and is a fun and you story is what i ended up doing was splicing donald trump stump speeches with bobby knight press conferences and going back and forth between the two of them because it was very similar. the main take away from the people we talked to was in the end, america kind of likes jerks. just outspoken people who are good at what they do but will throwing elbow and just go outside the link and we ended up calling it something like why a rug gallery of athletes endorsing donald trump and i got rogueil, wrote gallery -- npr word forreal
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a-hole. in terms of the story, double work -- mylug, micah coworker did this and covers demographics and she spent months digging through 2012 exit polls and digging through demographics and looking at all these changes and an interactive mapy on how -- if the 2016 looks like 2012 based on how each state has stained -- changed. this is what the final result would look at. she goes by and for this as if the percent more white people show up, how would that change that stuck up you can look through and given how much this year has focused on demographics and racial tension and racial identity, i think that is invaluable tool. beas good a question to
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audience. the question is, how do you think the rhetoric of the clinton campaign will shift that she has chosen tim kaine as a running mate? issue no longer being pushed to the left -- is she no longer being pushed to the left? >> i think there are a number of supporters of the king. i think he offers her if you positives. he opens up her to more white males, especially white working-class people in general. he has back on. the clinton campaign hopes appeals to them. he is also, this is been well-publicized, he is fluent in spanish. he opens her up to, he would do a number of spanish speaking interviews as well. i don't think she will be stopped pushing to the left because bernie sanders and the wielding ag are
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lot of power. as you can see in part by the fact that denver wasserman schultz is no longer dm and see chair.is no longer she has four more days. i think that will continue. for those of you who are staying, what else are you looking for? zeke: after the doom and gloom in cleveland. watching the tim kaine announcement on saturday, it was certainly a more positive tone.
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that.will be a lot of what voters are looking for. , the reason he is saying those things is not just to say them, he is seeing it resonate. dramatically different visions about where america is at. get right track, wrong track, it is 60% of the wrong track. betting on very different visions and that will be a very different -- interesting contrast to play out. hillary clinton tried to address the trust issues she has
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with voters. i think you will see that continue this week. not only from her but from chelsea clinton, the clinton, rub her circuits who have known her a long time. character ways of than likability. i don't think it will be so much show like thes rnc. >> the trunk campaign promised a lot more. we didn't get a lot of that. zeke: the clinton campaign feels that she doesn't have to.
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the country is on the left. the majority of the country is already there and she doesn't have to pit to the middle -- pivot to the middle to appeal to voters. degree but it doesn't make much difference at this point. for those of you who were in upveland, the lock her chant, how many people believed that she had committed a crime? scott: my seat was as high as you could get. p's last speech, andas a party atmosphere
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everyone is dancing and having fun. when he started speaking, it was a very angry and frustrated speech. you could feel the tension and . it was af those boos very intense arena. jenna: it has been like that for months. i can't overemphasize how much hatred there is for hillary clinton across america. dan: ted cruz and donald trump may agree on -- disagree on a lot, but they agree hillary clinton should not be president. tona: he encouraged others drop out. was aboutspeech that
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-- he led everyone in the chant of america deserves better. that is the rallying cry for people who cannot rally around donald trump, but don't want hillary clinton. if tim kaine was the nominee for president, what would republicans rally around? he doesn't have the decades long stories and controversies that the clinton has. zeke: the only way one of them becomes president is running against the other one. donald trump does not exist without hillary clinton and hillary clinton would not be in this race if it weren't for
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donald trump being the republican nominee. if you look at most of ae polls, they so -- show large part of the electorate is undecided. who are these people? have you met some of them? they are undecided about whether they want to boat or not. there are a lot of people out and this is just when i am in airports are talking to drivers -- it used to be a taxi driver and now it is a uber driver. there are a lot of people who usually vote republican and donald trump is not their guy.
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there is something about hillary clinton that they do not like. for those people, are they going to hit the point where, do they hate 12 but for the other? what will be the gary johnson percentage of the vote? i will be fascinated if he gets into a presidential debate because polling showing him not over the threshold. he might get that high. the, he get with six or seven. cover i would like to gary johnson on the campaign.
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before i was covering secretary clinton, i pitched a story to his people where we were going to climb a mountain. getting high with gary johnson was going to be the headline. david: we are going to wrap it up. thank you so much. republican national committee a presstz pubis had conference in philadelphia. this is about 20 minutes. >> before we start with the remarks i would like to show you a quick video to get you in the mood.

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