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basic intuition. there will be breakthroughs and we'll get excited about it. we hope to be able to assist there will be breakthroughs, and it,ill get excited about and be able to answer your e-mail and make suggestions for what movie theater you should go tonight. that is not intelligence. we may be able to we hope to assist humans in their daily jobs. who does not want help? there is really speculation to get to the kind of human level intelligence then everyone has , let alone going past. , which is justn guess, thatust a there is another discovery
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needed. human intelligence is very hard to define. the concerns over oh my gosh, loose in thelet lab. i saw that movie and it was really good. charlie rose: there are also questions of disruptive technologies. does google fear there could be some disruption so that search engines will be obsolete? eric: in my industry you always worry about the next idea. inevitably there is always a new team in a garage somewhere, the young professor and the two graduate students. that's how google started. you always worry about that. there are many, many ways in which what we currently do could be disrupted over time. this is why we invest so much. this is why we focus on this assistant model because there we have signature advantages in terms of the engineers. charlie rose: this is what technology has done. uber is a disruptive technology.
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amazon was a disruptive technology. the power of technology to disrupt the way things act is best. eric: if you look at uber it's both disruptive. eric: it is a two-sided market. you have to have a pricing model which they don't set as well as the pricing model to get enough customers. this is the big picture. charlie rose: some people worry there may be somehow back to the 2000, 2001, you lived through that in terms of some kind of collapse. technology companies, a bubble bursting. eric: we lived through the bubble. we were so much more handsome and beautiful.
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it makes you feel like you are god. him him god. i remember being at this dinner in davos and i said, these are the leaders of the free world? we got ahead of ourselves. thank goodness. that it crashed and we rebuilt it properly. the market and the investors are much savvier now. for the companies that don't have strong profits they have strong revenue solutions. charlie rose: i did a conversation where john malone was being honored. he just bought time warner. he obviously is intense in terms of his vision and his access to the internet.
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broadband is what these companies will do for him. he raised a question with me, people like google and apple have so much money that he worries about the possibilities that they have. in addition, they have so much money can they scoop up all of the best talent? eric: we are each trying to hire the best people. each of us globally, as we understand the economic return. of these people. this narrative is not unique to those five companies. for each of the companies represented here in the room, we if you are five or 10 of the kind of engineers we're talking about, we could materially improve the effectiveness of your business. software, big data stuff. a great many examples now. you take what your business is like and you put in it and data approach and you come up with customer insights that really do help your bottom line. that's where the race is. economic value of these people
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is great. charlie rose: they know it will bring productivity. it will it also bring about problems of people being displaced from the job market? eric: we've had this concern for a long time. you go back to the 1980's automation concern. a great deal of concern there would be a loss of jobs. but in fact the american economy has generated through all the travails of very large number of jobs during this supposed time when the jobs would go away. the jobs are different than they used to be. everyone has a right to fear for their own future and fear that their jobs will be disrupted. the fact of the matter is -- the u.s. today is running at near full employment. that's a testament to the recovery since 2008-2009.
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everybody here was in new york at that time. try to remember how you felt. it was only seven years ago. think about how strong the city turned out to be. i'm not as worried about this. i want to be clear, think there is a problem with the loss of high-paying middle class manufacturing jobs. the hollowing out of the middle. we need to find ways to address the job dislocation. there are many economic solutions for that. but the ultimate answer to this stuff is more education, more education, more education. more competitiveness, and more entrepreneurs. you named the five companies. every one of them was started by incredibly intelligent entrepreneurs. maybe we should thank them occasionally.
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think of the number of jobs these guys created. think of all the taxes they paid in california. charlie rose: should there be a change in this tax structure so they can bring home all that money they make overseas? eric: we have argued for two decades that the offshore cash should be brought into america. charlie rose: create jobs at home. eric: of course, in google's case we generate a lot of cash from our operations. it seems crazy to not let it come in to be used as capital. we are under investing in our infrastructure. the country's population is growing. interconnectivity is increasing. we need to spend the money on roads and bridges and airports, you name it. we are not doing it. and interest rates are low. charlie rose: therefore investment in infrastructure will create demand. eric: there is a set of things that businesses can do. they're not allowed to build roads and bridges. there is a proper function for
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government. government needs to get organized by doing this. that drives economic creativity, which drives wealth, happiness, and more voters, seems very straightforward. charlie rose: where is the most competition going to come from to the american technological engine? china, south korea, somewhere else? eric: the history was that america would invent it, korea would perfect it, and china would make it in huge volumes. that's the pattern. many believe that china is going to jump one level higher and they are following our playbook. they are incredibly intelligent. there are critics who believe that their educational model and
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lack of political speech and a whole bunch of other things will not allow them to get to our level. that's the great debate. there are other arguments that say the economy is slowing down in the numbers are overstating it. china is going to be a player. the most interesting country is israel. on a person for person basis, their productivity and innovation is the highest in the world. they have forced military service and are very aggressive in their culture. they expect innovation and they tolerate risk. that's a repeatable model. charlie rose: one of the last times i saw you was technicon. cornell is trying to create a silly con valley in new york. eric: on roosevelt island they are building this huge campus.
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an attempt to create a competitor to silicon valley. silicon valley needs a competitor. i love this project. if you go through where the innovation will occur. beijing comes to mind. tel aviv comes to mind. london is having a huge renaissance. cambridge. that train line is about an hour and a half. charlie rose: is that more important than oxford? eric: the people in cambridge have a lot of free land around the university. they allowed the construction of business parks. in europe they don't like to build anything. they owned a lot of land that was unoccupied.
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the university was able to title it. they had on the order of about a thousand startups. most didn't work. at some point they have to move to a city and they moved to london. that is a pretty good model. charlie rose: what about the model that stanford had with silicon valley? the two founders of google, they both were in graduate school. and the relationship between the university allowing them to do whatever they wanted to do, does it create opportunities? eric: you can argue that cornell is doing the same thing here. stanford is the best example of this. this is a model you can copy. there's no secret here. stanford is organized around graduate students. they have a lot of funding. they encourage them to do interesting things. they get funded by venture capitalists. to them seems like an enormous amount of money, for me, too, at
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the time. they move into some dumpy little house in palo alto. they cost too much. and off they go. the cycle has happened six or seven times. charlie rose: if you were starting over would you go into biology rather than computer science and engineering? eric: both are having a renaissance. i spent a fair amount of time with the computer scientists that are working in biology. right at that intersection. all of the interesting computer science problems of scale are true in biology. the number of proteins. i figured that genetics was a solve problem. there is an area called epigenetic spirit your genes change as a result of environmental factors. this is a gold mine for the kind
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of problems that people like myself are interested in. that work today will become the foundation of nobel prizes. charlie rose: i think the most exciting thing is the marriage between biology, computer science, and technology. they both help each other. with the power of computing and the velocity that it adds we see in terms of mapping the human genome. how much it cost then, how much it costs now. how much it adds to medicine. they are matching what they know about causes of cancer with a global understanding of all the trials that are going on everywhere. they can compute this so that a doctor that is treating a patient has an incredible amount of information in front of him that might not otherwise exist. eric: you will have health care records that are more than just medical bills.
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you'll be able to digitally describe and say what is going on. calculate the probable outcomes. we have a project it deep mind using the national health service from the united kingdom. they have a large number of blood samples. trying to predict the prevalence of acute kidney injury. it's a common source of death in hospitals in the u.k. we have early results that we have materially stabilized. we just study the outcomes and then we give the doctor heads up. saying this patient and his
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combination is far more likely to need intervention in the next hour. charlie rose: i will be going down to washington to interview fbi director james comey. he's been at the forefront, the loggerhead between the f.b.i. on the one hand and national security issues. at the same time encryption. where do you come down in terms of somehow in the national interest on both sides finding a solution? eric: the industry is united in saying that the government forcing us to weaken encryption is a bad idea. if we're forced by law to weaken encryption, there are people proposing that, it won't be just the government that has access to your information on your phone, it will has be the bad guys. the computer can't tell the difference between the good guys
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and the bad guys. in countries like china they are not so favorable to human rights. we've taken a position that there need to be other solutions rather than forcing a weakening or a backdoor and this is a hard issue because encryption is getting stronger. in fairness to our industry is important to understand what happened. when edward snowden revealed all the activities, we read about the things the government was doing that we didn't know about. surveillance of united states citizens. we have fully encrypted the data in google. at rest and transit. i can tell you if you have something that you want to be private, the best place to keep it is in gmail. seriously. it is fully encrypted. we know this because everybody's complaining. charlie rose: what would happen if the f.b.i. director came and said we know this person is
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suspected of something serious and we think there is an exchange of information through gmail. please give us access. eric: america has the fisa court. that is a legal proceeding. that's called the front door. all this terrorism is a horrific thing. the democracies have legal proceedings to deal with it. the fbi director wouldn't come to us. he would go to the three-judge panel and they would give the information just like that. charlie rose: most of the time they have. eric: in fact something like -- it's public number. less than 50,000 times, maybe 40,000 times per year we're asked this and we have billions of users. it's a relatively rare event. that's for all national security matters. charlie rose: two quick questions. 10 years from now the world will be dramatically different
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because of what we're doing? eric: think about the information you have now you didn't have a decade ago. the companies that we talked about today that didn't exist. find a 10-year-old and watch this 10-year-old manipulate his or her ipad or iphone. you will see the future. it is a good future. all the evidence is that people are getting smarter not dumber. educational achievement is getting stronger. a lot of this is due to the interconnectedness and innovation of all of us. charlie rose: why is your 13-year-old working on that? because my 10-year-old is at play. thank you very much. \[applause] \[captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016] \[captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit
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where's the house and you are out on their august break. will not be back until tuesday, september 6. this break more work than vacation? a frequent guest on c-span used one of his wife forts to explain the august recess. have a look. >> on the hill they call it the august recess, but it is just not like they are running outside or playing foursquare, in fact, few if any are spending all their time by the beach or at the golf course. >> see all of david hawking's whiteboard and follow the this n vacation? a frequent guest on c-span used one of his wife forts to explain the august recess. have a look. video. this break is longer than usual conventions and a little bit later labor day than .sual
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we see on twitter and facebook, and senatorsembers spending time at their state fairs. joe donnelly pitching in literally at the indiana state fair. >> to learn more about nato and the refugee crisis, bipartisan delegations headed to london tuesday that he isis along with the global trade. there you got a little bit more of david hawking's. at will find more twitter.com/cspan. of the half-dozen senators who said they are not going to vote trump, one of them is of arizona. just tweeting, america does not win any more? photograph of the women's gymnastics team. meanwhile, some members to come washington.
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they did this morning. tweeting, what does it take to get speaker ryan in the house zika virus.n the we are running out of money and time. we want to let you know about political coverage. be talkingnton will about her jobs and economic , speaking at a tool and engineering company. we will follow that with your calls and comments. we will have this for you coming up. we heard about the zika virus from democrats. here is dr. anthony fauci speaking about the u.s. response at the alliance for help reform. that is coming up in about 40 minutes. briefing on capitol hill with nancy pelosi and other democrats. they talked about zika virus and issues.
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calling on the house to gobble back into focus on the issues. >> welcome back. good to see you. as you all know, our first responsibility as members of to protect and
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defend. national security is our first responsibility. security,des global personal security. to protect the american people. leadership of mr. steve israel, our democratic as about as we go forward is security. national security, economic security, and the security of our democracy. those are being neglected by the fact that congress has weeks,n in session four and does not intend to be in session four weeks. we have some emergencies that months thatere for congress left without addressing. we are here to talk about to get theming back job done for the american honor our responsibility to protect them opioids, zika, gun violence protection.
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list goes on and on. i am honored to be here with my colleagues. caucus,e democratic other members of the leadership. aboutedwards will talk this. tripf the members on the to visit troops in afghanistan and to speak to european leaders about what is happening at the nato. relationship and congressman steve israel and member of the intelligence committee, congressman andre will be expressing views and addressing the challenges we have.
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>> hello. it is great to be here. i have the california attitude, florida i just can from where everyone was asking, when will congress help address the virus here in florida? just they have been asking in the state of michigan for over a year, when will you help us make sure our kids do not drink contaminated water that was mademinated by man, not by -- not by nature but the state officials who took no steps to protect the people in flint, and certainly the children in flint. given the emergency providing -- funding expires, the folks in michigan are asked thing, when will congress step ?wo the plate why won't congress do its job? .ur job is pretty simple people vote us and to get things
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done, to make things better for the american people. unfortunately, so far, this is congress that has done very notle and cut out early and accomplished job. does that make a difference if is the cup, flint water, the american people are wondering, when will we get the job done? does not matter if it is zika, flint water contamination. take long for us to provide the resources to the folks in florida and other with zika.eal should not take a very long to the people in michigan. the children of point, michigan, should be able to drink their water from the tap without question. should expect the same thing for our children and families. let me yield to the gentlewoman this rate of maryland, donna edwards.
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maryland.f edwards: even my constituents know why we are not at work. facing fore are in this ehealth crises country and congress has not done anything about it. said, the zika ands, ending gun violence yet have not been able to do anything about that. the public health crisis in flint, michigan, where 9000 poisoned and been not clean, we have the ability to do something about that. republicans have done nothing.
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as democrats we have offered end and to deal with the old feeling -- opioid addiction. 78 people every single day lose opioid overdoses. we know we can put the resources -- democrats offered republicansnd yet are on vacation and have done nothing. tooin my colleagues today say i do not want to just take out in the fourth district and maryland. i want to be here on capitol hill solving the public health wait.ncies that cannot making sure sadly our families and communities and children know that we are here to do their work. 52 days of vacation. children will be back in school be onpublicans will still vacation. to work,ats, we want get the job done for the american people, and it is time
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for us to get back to it. thank you. colleague,my committee rosa delauro. >> i think my colleagues. i am honored to be here with our leaders -- with our leader. thank you for organizing this today. about discussing some of the most serious challenges that are facing our today, the zika virus, opioid addiction. and yes, gun violence. agoredicted, many months virus has rapidly become a serious health care crisis. as of last week, more than 7300 cases in the united states and territories, including nearly 1000 expectant mothers. 15 babies have been born with eco-related to the effects, and
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one baby in texas has died. over 40 members of the military with zika.nfected this is a public health emergency. what does it take to get the act?lican majority to first, they demanded the administration transfer fund combat the ebola virus. complied.stration redirected. was in essence, robbing peter to pay paul. resources went to the center for disease control who will obligate all of the remaining of september.nd resources went to the nih and biomedical advanced research and development. almost all ofust the fund for vaccines by the end of august. because of continued inaction by the republicans, they will force the department of health and
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human services to take money biomedicalh, research. that means. some of my colleagues on the other side of the aisle will stand up and talk about how we need to spend money for biomedical research, but nih will have to shift the money in order to deal with zika. and if they don't, vaccine development will be stopped dead in its tracks. they're forcing them to take other health programs to continue to pay for diagnostic so we know the scope .f the zika outbreak the money is running out, and public health officials cannot virus without additional funding. speaker ryan, called the house of representatives act into session so we can pass usislation that will allow to effectively respond to the virus. not realizeaker that for the first time in
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history our government is women to avoidt a u.s. neighborhood in florida? realize speaker not women are being advised not to get pregnant? does the speaker realize that waiting until september is too late. late for expectant mothers zika who are so fearful of bearing a child with severe .irth defects too late for the people of miami , and too late for the millions risk.ricans at thejob is to protect american people from zika, opioid, lead poisoning and gun violence. republicans have not responded issue. let me say thank you to leader politically. we just discussed a range of issues with foreign leaders and met with military leaders and women.men and
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the bravery and dedication is inspiring to all of us. in italy we met with the archbishop who is head of the council for justice and peace. discussed immigration and global poverty reduction. these are critical issues that face our world and the u.s. has an important role to play. the united states cannot and not put its head in the sand whether they are fighting zika or addressing the other global issues. we thank you again leader losey, and let me turn it back to you. i am sorry, congressman steve israel. congressman israel: when it comes to national security, it is not just that republicans are doing nothing, they are doing damage to our national security. losey -- pelosi led us on
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a trip to meet with nato partners in a and a stamp. i felt like we should have brought brooms and map -- mops up the damage that donald trump is creating for the allies and partners. to clean up the national mess he is creating. italy, we had to reassure some of our closest partners in nato that we will not abandon them.turn our backs on and afghanistan, we had to tell partners the president of afghanistan and the military leaders that we would stand by them. themwe will not undermine as a republican presidential candidate has publicly suggested . that is custom across unveiled a america agenda. it is critical but also easy to and.
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we will work with nato allies to combat terrorism around the world. terryl provide you with resources that they need. we will increase funding for the counterterrorism initiative and activities. airportexpand dhs perimeter program. number five, we will take guns out of the hands of suspected terrorists by passing no-fly, nobody. this is priorities we would have recessdone we left for if we had been in the majority. those are five priorities house have completely turned their back on. an august ofme apology for their presidential candidate. it needs to be an august of action for the american people. is inactionfaced and worst, damage to the national security. without, i will turn it over to congressman andre carson. ou.gressman carson: thank y
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to start, i want to thank our remarkable, capable and visionary leader, leader pelosi for not only inviting me but inviting us to be a part of the delegation toy easily particularly it -- particularly italy and afghanistan. we want to thank all the leaders we had a chance to meet. an inspiration, showing us that we need to do more to protect our country. our republican colleagues seem to have what it means to meet the constitutional obligations to support our military. of making tough choices about what missions the military reduceaccomplish, they support for troops of basic levels ofut the
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defense spending, whether then outover site, they dish unending criticism of the -- president's decision on policy, even when the policy actually works. the decades of successful cooperation, they support the nominee who would pull out of nato and regularly insult the result of -- resolve of some of our most reliable partners. we were eager to join the delegation, me in particular because we know keeping the country interest and safe involves more than just political pandering. recently president obama announced 8400 troops will stay in afghanistan longer the next acted. announced it will be giving new authority to support afghan partners in the field as talibansue al qaeda and
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targets. honest, i was a bit skeptic about this going into the trip. engaged in the middle east and facing escalating threats and eastern europe in the south china sea. sure it was the right move in this strategic environment. after meeting with general nicholson, the american general commanding the nato mission in afghanistan, i feel confident that this was absolutely the right call to make. aghanistan is facing resurgence of terrorist elements games wehreatening the have made over the past decade expanding the ability to defeat the taliban and al qaeda. afghanistannting from once again becoming a strong hold of transnational terrorism. obligation tohas people abouterican the burden that they will have
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to bear in war, including expectation for when the or will actually end. i have voice call for this, but situations change fast as we wantand the last thing we to leave omission unfinished allowing major threats to take place again. i want to be clear for my republican colleagues, our partnership with nato cannot be questioned. with us when we were attacked on 9/11. our partners have been and will partnue to be a critical in our fight against terrorism. alliance. abandon the they empower russia, and they weaken american interest in national security. opinion, it is fact. allies to abandon our are simply empty rhetoric.
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they are a symptom of election-year, and they are dangerous for anyone who condemns this process out right, itn our colleagues who know is the right thing to do. thank you. >> thank you very much. theddition to the distinguished mr. carson, israel , on our trip we were joined by another member of the committee, the ranking member on foreign affairs, eliot engel. longtime member of the committee.e eshoo andman anna ranking member on intelligence, .utch ruppersberger everyone was either intelligence background or israel and mr. reversed berger, the defense subcommittee of appropriations.
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everyone there was in a , totion to gain knowledge act upon it in the best possible way for the american people. there are couple of points i want to make. talking carson was about the president's decision to go from 9500 troops to 8400, number, and to authority, which he receiveder, it was troops inively by our afghanistan, by the leadership in afghanistan. we met with the chief executive officer of do love dula. -- abdullah abdullah. this had a very positive impact on our nader -- nato ally in meeting, and so
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they have chimed in with more for our action in afghanistan. relationships is not only important in europe in butsatlantic partnership, infighting isis and terrorism and afghanistan. i also want to talk about when she talked about meeting at the vatican about issues relating to migration. quoted then, and i will now, hope paul the sixth said if you want peace, work for justice. that is exactly what we're trying to do working together to address underlying causes of poverty, the fury of this is territory for the recruitment of those that feel this despair.
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proud of the delegation. they are so informed to begin with. lively conversations that will serve us well. about information and intelligence and knowledge. that is what is so frustrating about what is happening back here. here we have evidence-based challenges. whether it is happening in zika, gunoids, violence to name a few. evidence-based challenges. our republican colleagues are not here is governance is not what they are .ere to do they are anti-governance, so why , and theyo anything are not moved by evidence, even
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establishy commissions to say we want evidence-based this and that. why jacob my question to leaders in the house, what doter thing do you have to than to look at the needs of the people? whether it is children who will be affected by -- for a lifetime. there are solutions if we move likely. what better thing do you have to meet the needs of the flint?n of point -- i think my colleagues, lawrence and chilled the for the leadership and persistence on this. what better thing to have to do? work unless you put the resources there. numbers.ree in large
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i would not have supported the bill if i thought there was never going to be money coming with it. thing do you have to month and ae for a half? is it because it is not in your because it is in our country. it is in this world we live in. do you have tong do then giving us a vote on no-fly, no by an background legislation? support no-fly, no by. we are only halfway through this right. we can come back and act upon it. what are they going to do together would do it in an
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process? maybe. they have artie thrown up funding. to the zika -- already thrown up obstacles to the zika funding. they are saying if we have any funding, it cannot include contraception. i wonder how many of the families of the republican colleagues are not practicing birth control? how come they don't have many children? how come they don't have 65 children? -- the way -- six children. we have a different philosophy. but come on, come back. do the job. and anytime i see a republican
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colleague i asked them, what was during yourplish break that was more important than the health and well-being and safety and security of the people? i'm going to florida shortly after this meeting. meetingsando and have related to what happened in ago.do two months go to south florida to talk about zika. solutions are there. the evidence in the science and us to a place where responsible governance, and getting the job done are readily available. the republicans are just saying no. any questions? >> you were speaking about national security intelligence. there was a report about a cyber attack affecting more than 100 party officials.
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have you been briefed on this? understanding? pelosi: i know it is in terms of affecting the congressional democratic committee. i know it affects us and it is russians. reporter: how concerned are you act? senator pelosi: it is just wrong. think we want to learn more. i would like us to have been able to fully capture the hackers. nonetheless, i think it is very sure it is ther russians. i said that two weeks ago. we are assessing the damage.
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>> the hillary campaign operative, this is an electronic case. this is a break in. this is a break in. i think that we have to what is happening here. russians broke in. who they gave the information to? know.t i do know this is an electronic break-in. forne who would ask late the purpose of embarrassment or something like that is an to that.e >> you mention contraception, isn't the funding of planned
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parenthood -- what is planned parenthood, an organization protecting women's health. out, why whennt know the difficulty that we issues, whythese add to the difficulty we are rico?encing in puerto quote pope francis on this issue. conscience to determine whether or not to use contraception. as a leader pointed out, it can be as sexually transmitted virus. add that kind of a writer to a piece of legislation that you up and create it the kind of dissent that will forward?rom going
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.here is an obstructionism here it says why don't we want to in seco where we can help save lives? it is mindless. >> i do not think that is the only reason. the republicans could have brought a bill forward. they have said whatever we bring haverd will not we haveption in it offered so many compromises to them. even going to the senate language of not all of the money right now because the money is urgently needed. is not aarenthood reason, it is an excuse to do nothing. make sure you have that in perspective. senator pelosi: i would like to about the center
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of the trip. reporter: on the trip and national defense, how much discussion was there of russia's actions in the ukraine and central buildup of forces there, and what she you think the u.s. , what should the u.s. do? senator pelosi: there were questions about what public main in the the subject of nato and what was the public support for this craziness that is going on. eu and talked about the what that meant, especially in italy because they say italy is to go. that was not the impression in italy. it was a stronger eu, a more
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fulsome eu, rather than leaving. so from the standpoint of the ukraine, as with every trip to any country or visiting dignitaries here, we appreciate sanctions.s to the this is the most important message we deliver. subject we have with leadership, speaker house -- the chamber of deputies. the president of the country, an minister. at every level we talked about the sanctions. that is related to him. have yout every level we talke:
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been notified by the fbi that targeted?ally were senator follows the. ccc was.now that the d reporter: the congressman said he needed a broom and mop to clean up after donald trump. wondering if you had any about the cofounder isis? >> let me just talk about some comment. i do not spend a lot of politics , as you know. are the ones that bring it up. the combat made by the republican nominee about the , it was clearnt he did not understand the words of a presidential candidate, a nominee, weigh eight time.
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-- weigh a ton. there were a number of other things he could upset about the boat. you better get out, you met her -- better take action. if you are concerned about , you better get out and vote because this court may make decisions that are more thoughtful in terms of immigration comprehensive reform. the double meaning that it had, -- wittingly or not, is very problematic and scary. we do not know whether he intended or not. didn't, words way of
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.own for him to turn around in a what he did about the president or is so bizarre. so representative of demagogues that want to be in no matter what they have to say. this is a tactic. tactic.a here we are talking about it. the fact is the invasion of iraq invasion of iraq under -- misrepresentations to the american people has down more to inflame the terrorists than any action you can name. let's just go right back to the
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misrepresentation given to the we should go that pretense on a false that everybody knows not to be true, and we knew at the time not to be true. i was the senior democrat on intelligence. similar statement made by graham, chairman of the intelligence midi. -- intelligence committee. has put out something that uncertainty among people. poll, 72% are not sure whether the president is a citizen. come on. >> we will say this, while we afghanistan we learned was has an offshoot that operating within afghanistan.
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we, the afghan national army and partners have done a very job of pushing them back, containing them to a very small area. there is only one presidential candidate who is publicly saying we should weaken the nato allies away, the same allies that are fighting in afghanistan efficient -- effectively pushing them back, and that is .onald trump i do not mind his absurd statements. what concerns me are his dangerous policies. >> i want to say that no matter prudish -- brutish mr. trump presents himself, no matter how are,cative his statements he is smart in that there is a great piece on the cover of the suggests a meltdown. it suggests as if he knows he be the next president
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of the united states. it is clear trump does not have does have people around him that will correct him. when you are in political life eitheren have to insert to the press or most importantly, your can to its. when he sees the polls number -- the poll numbers declining, he climbed -- cries like a baby. >> the congresswoman just said the administration will have to reprogram more funding in the of congressional action on the eu. have either of you gotten information on how much other funding can be moved around and long? senator pelosi:
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i do not want anyone to draw any inference from the fact they are fight isis.ey to was is being used where it intended. i do not want any inference to be drawn that this is not necessary where it is, and the fight against ebola and medical research, and was intended. all of the other purposes of the department of services. human i call it the lamb meat lamb committee. everything there is very valuable to the american will. defense department, defense budget to get some resources for research. that is where the money is.
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but unfortunately, they will have to take more money from the nih and they have said that. so the question is how will they restore that money and, by the way, it is not anywhere near enough what they need to go forward. >> how much will they take? ms. pelosi: they will be running out of money at the end of september, to work with the private sector for the development of vaccines. all of the rest of that, the money is not there. why? because republicans want to sit on the beach and avoid evidence and data?
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this reporter asked about planned parenthood -- they did not asked about planned parenthood. that is an excuse. reason they have said five months after the president of the united states has pointed this out, it is just not in their neighborhood? want us toing, they pay for midwestern and national disasters but not new york and new jersey and pennsylvania and connecticut? what motivates them or does not? did you want to address anything? >> i want to a just one point paired on zika funding, let no one be surprised about this, and no one should make a mistake that, this is not a fluke that we have not been able to fund zika treatment and prevention.
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many are aware the social security administration is now announced that because of the republican funding levelers -- levels that have been close come they have to close down some offices for some weeks. applies for benefits, a hearing for disability insurance. all of that will have to be put on hold because the administration does not have the resources to keep its doors open as a result of the funding levels that republicans are proposing. it is not coincidental or an accident that we find republicans are willing to fund zika or the social security anotherration or any of -- a number of other subjects. mistake, that tend to
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rot money from other parts of our government in their efforts to try and shrink the size of government. for those who get pregnant or tracked seek common americans who paid 40 years into social security. they're not able to apply for benefits as they expected because this is the way they want to run government. surprised theye have a government shutdown as well. this is the way they tend to operate the government. >> very briefly, when we had a map of the potential spread of the zika virus, not just from those who would travel but from months ago, we had the map and the republicans had the map.
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republicans today in florida and in other places around the country, it is not a surprise. what is shameful is republicans left town knowing this is concisely what would happen over without the cdc getting the $1.9 billion that they requested for vaccine development, additional research, and treatment. it has been patently irresponsible for republicans who have not dealt with the crisis and the other health crises that we talked about earlier. in closing to speaker ryan, get back to washington and do your job or just do your job. doing nothing is not a form of governance. there is a point on
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zika that i want to make. republicans seem to be on a letter writing binge. spend the money you have. they have been spending the money. not anything at this purpose, but taking from other initiatives which must be restored. i want to commend the secretary. she has handled this with great saying how can we forget the sources we need? we cannot ignore the fact that zika exists. the money is being spent. every possible option is being exhausted. we are going into the
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national institute of health, which is supposed to be a priority. for us. >> very quickly, from the for thethe request actual $1.9 billion, over and they'll -- there was not enough data or information about where the money was being spent, which is not true. unbelievable detail as to where were going to be. more detail than we had ever , on the cost of the iraq war and accountability for resources spent in iraq. the leader just mentioned, every line delineating where money is going to be spent. the money now going to texas,
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the money going to the state to be able to cope with the crisis, so they continue to want to say, the administration has not provided information. it is a lie and a misrepresentation. the data is there. take a look at it. on that subject, i want to take it to a larger issue of budget. it was not what we thought would be useful to the american people but we would compromise and agree to it. it did not take into consideration the fact that there would be a zika crisis and opioids crisis. all of these things, normally, we are so far away from normal, but normally they would be considered emergency spending because the budget was their bones as it was.
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when something unusual happens like a natural disaster, then you have emergency spending and that is what we anticipated would happen and that is what the president requested. instead, they are saying nothing, five months later some of february 2 now, we have not again by the way, spend the money we appropriated for other purposes, and by the way, anything we do in addition to we have to take out of the budget last year. which is the budget agreement. sense. not make it doesn't add up. to enlarge the issue further, you can see it played out in the presidential -- proposing an economic package, job creation
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and reducing the deficit and bigger paychecks for the american people. a middle-class economy. donald trump, true to form for republicans, is revisiting bush tax cuts, which took us a deeply into debt when president bush came into office. trickle-down versus double up. and the same trickle-down people are saying we want tax cuts for because we think that is really important for our country even though those did not produce jobs, they did not, and at the same time, we wanted , take foodhe deficit out of the mouth of the baby, take, tell grants, all of the things that invest in the future.
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we have a national emergency, take it out of other good initiatives that we all in a bipartisan way have agreed to in the past. i don't understand why they don't understand. -- there is an expression, you will understand when you understand. when will they understand and teach us that the money is things end, that more money is needed? will it take a tragedy in their own district? this, membersith were asking, how come italy is not being invested in, the european,said, we are texas taxes and other countries are taxes in europe. where are european. we're all american. country because they have not hit home in the district, it does not mean it has been hitting home for the american people.
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about davies, i just cannot understand it. what are they doing? what better use of time to they have right now than to come back here and get the job done? back, honorngress our responsibilities to the american people, get the job done. thank you all. [captioning performed by the
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national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016] life campaign 2016 coverage is coming up this afternoon. donald trump in orlando, florida. the houston chronicle says he will face a largely friendly crowd when he appears at the florida pastor's session sponsored by the american renewal project. we will have that live at 3:00 eastern. take you live to shortly to hillary clinton in michigan. she will be unveiling an economic plan, a jobs plan, speaking in michigan. we have got a plea -- a preview what we can expect her to talk about on this morning's washington journal. guest: she will be an warned, michigan, which is just outside of detroit. from not expect a lot new
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her in terms of policy. it is reframing a proposals to put out of work am investing in jobs and infrastructure, debt-free college, trying to expand the number of workers who can share in the company's profits. proposal along those lines. i think you will hear as much about donald trump as you about hillary clinton in this speech. she is going to go after him as someone who is putting out regurgitated trickle-down economics and looking out for millionaires like himself with the proposals he put forward earlier this week. host: what are some differences between what all caps at earlier at the detroit economic club and what hillary clinton will propose today? guest: she is really going to go after one specific thing that he put out there, which is a method of taxation for small businesses
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and other entities referred to as pass-through tax, where is that of being a corporate tax, the taxes will get picked up on their own or's for -- owner's form. say if you look at the various scores of entities that make up the trump organization, most of them are constructed that way, so she will argue he is trying to help himself in that instance. host: who is she targeting in this speech today? guest: she is targeting the lower and middle class. getting back to your first question about where she will be today, the county in which she is delivering a speech is no accident. it is a very blue-collar county. one that has swung back and forth in elections. democrats won four.
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republicans have won four. a real swing county in a potential swing state. host: you can tune in at 1:15 p.m. eastern time. that is where hillary clinton will be. you can watch c-span, listen to c-span radio, or watch it on tr >> again, we expect that's beast to get underway shortly and we will have it live here on the span. while we wait for hillary clinton's event to get underway, more from this morning. ing. "ric lipton, "new york times washington correspondent here to talk about a series he did looking at think tanks and corporate influence. i want to read from your first piece where you wrote in the chase for funds, and tanks are pushing agendas important to corporate donors.
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explain the partnerships that you saw. guest: it used to be that when you went to support a think tank, you would give them a restricted grant. i like the work you do. you play an important role in society. here is $1 million. do the kind of research you want to do that will help inform society about important topic. nowadays, increasingly, foundations and corporations give project-based funding. they say here is $100,000, $1 million. we wanted to do a report on this specific topic. we also want potentially to see the report as it is been developed and maybe make some comments on it. we would love to see you draft before you publish it. that is a different relationship, and a lot more about project responding is going on now is in washington.it
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changes the relationship between the donor and think tank. in potentially affect the outcome of the report as well. host: what is the impact? guest: not all intents, something tanks allow the donor to play a significant role in quote corrections to a report to make sure their perspective is heard. it can have an impact on the content of the report. fact, even when the donor has interviewed the money to have that right to play that role, it is not even disclosed that they would donate the money and play the role. public is misinformed that this is in fact a report that is to some extent almost commissioned by the donor and is going out in the name of the think tank which has this air of authority and independence. host: who is receiving this information and acting upon it?
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guest: right over there on capitol hill. the reports are passed out every day to staffers and members of congress. members of congress hold the records in their hands and read from them at hearings. they are distributed to the administration. go to the hill and brief staffers on the reports. they are on your show and in our newspapers and everywhere pontificating on the findings. we need to know what role did the donor play in this study? host: we cover them here on c-span posted by whatever think tank it may be. does the public know who the people are that issued the report and their relationship to these corporations? guest: most of the problem with think tanks these days is an exception. most of them published pretty
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comfortable lists annually of who their donors are, and it is typically available on the website. but not all of them put in the report itself who the project-based funder of a specific report is. just putting it in your annual someone the fact that was a donor to this particular think tank does not allow you to know that they funded a particular report. level ofa differing transparency in this whole process. --aking with c-span at aing of c-span, i was function live on c-span, and there was a nice person i have known for a number of years who used to work at the department of homeland security, was a helpful person there, but he was sitting there giving a talk about the role that the department of homeland security plays in doing what they call
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preclearance at airports in certain countries around the world. you go through customs before you enter the united states. he was among the panelists of an event he was moderating, and he had the title with a guy sitting next to him from the toronto airport authority. this whole event went on c-span but it was never disclose that the person sitting next to him was >> all of today's washington journal on c-span.org. we will leave here and take you to michigan or the engineering company. hillary clinton will speak there and talk about her jobs program, announcing her jobs plan this afternoon. live coverage here on c-span.
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>> pleasure to meet you. ms. clinton: pleasure to meet you. what am i looking at? >> portland, what it does is this holds titanium. we make it, vacuum the sections here, -- mrs. clinton: you make this? >> yes. so this is what you're talking about, the transition, the cup needs started, doing this kind of work. >> keep checking it and certifying it. mrs. clinton: show me how you do that. >> you push the button and move
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it up and down and move it sideways. it is already a line, -- >> part of the visit this afternoon in michigan. in just a bit, we expect her to talk about her jobs plan. livell have the speech when it starts here on c-span. in the meantime, back to this morning's is washington journal. they employ really smart people who have a great level of expertise. on death, congress and the administration relies on them for their knowledge. dear -- their ability to put things into perspective. the reason that this is important and to some extent the public think they are wonks.
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think tanks are part of the dce economy, the intellectual environment. i admit it -- i admire brookings in the work it does. i just want to preface anything that i am saying in general not just about brookings. we did focus a fair amount on brookings. and they are considered by the , in upen. they are ranked the number one prestigious think tank in the world. they are well respected. if there is a problem of thatings, it is up place it is integrity, independence and impact, it suggests there is a problem systemically. we spent a fair amount of time looking at them. we also happen to get a lot of internal documents from them
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that allowed us to see the kind of conversations they were having with donors and put it so -- attentional donors, and the money they were giving -- given. the began to look at the documents and shocked in some cases at the exchanges that were going on in which it were discussing things that were for consulting arrangements and consulting with potential dollars relative to things that in return foriver contributions. these are tax exempt organizations. they are supposed to be doing work that benefit society. they are not supposed to be there to help the process -- for-profit interest of their donors. we saw lines in the documents that showed us that they were providing donor benefits that seemed inappropriate. host: they said the reporter's thesis to buttress their
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with phrases lifted from thousands of pages of in draft-document using them out of context. guest: i admire a lot of the work that they do. did,s a report that they kkr is an investment firm based in new york. decided they would set up a multibillion-dollar fund to do more investments in real estate and infrastructure. it significantly increases its donations to brookings. personinate, a smart works at kkr. we see that he suggested to brookings that they write a report about public-private
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partnerships, which are type of private equity or investments that they make in sewer systems, fundsplants, the company the infrastructure. and maybe they should cowrite it with kkr. brookings agrees to cope right this. it has been posted on the website and it promotes one of kkr's projects in new jersey. what you have by doing this report, you are putting the stamp of brookings on this kkr investment effort. -- to a donor. hase's so much of that kkr given hundreds of thousands of dollars to brookings. introducehelp to help their executives to people in kkr.
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helpingbrookings doing them? from mye benefits that reading of that in exchange for money. i don't see that as a role of a think tank. host: john in pennsylvania, in an dependent. caller: kudos to you for this article. sinclair said it is difficult for a person to understand something when his salary depends on him not understanding it. that sums up these think tanks. heritage, manhattan, american enterprise, all those guys. the cato institute was start by -- started by the koch brothers. there is money behind all of this stuff to push an agenda which is generally a corporate agenda.
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i want you guys to do a series this.s and expose it's like you say, it is duping the american people. guest: what we observed is this is happening on the left and on the right. it is happening everywhere. particularly when you have a situations where u.s. scholars who have outside engaged -- engagements. when of the things we found is that think tanks give up these nonresident scholars titles. then the individual -- in this happens on the left and right, the person walks around washington, saying i am a senior fellow nonresident. that -- they are also a consultant. thing is there has
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been a pleasure for ration in washington, the story focuses mostly on the large institution. are all the small places that have started out that call themselves think tanks. are they really think tanks are advocacy shops that are using the cover of a think tank to promote agendas for the donors? it really has modeled -- it hurts the big institutions. these small places are narrowly focused on telecommunications and health care. likehey seem to be almost industry-driven entities. the proliferation of those have made the think tank host: a more context process. taxxamination of 75 income an array of researchers who had simultaneously worked as lobbyists, members of corporate
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boards or outside consultants in litigation with only intermittent disclosures of their dual role at these think tanks. syracuse new york, democrat. good morning. caller: i'd like to know more about the center for american progress. being a democrat, i am wondering why they don't have more ideas offered to the public. let's say the medical device taxes one of them. we know who runs -- podesta runs that organization and emmanuelle was one of the policy writers for the aca. i'm wondering how a think tank and have no ideas asked to how now that theca, medical device tech is been delayed, i think it's amazing that the think tank does not come up with alternative ideas, like why not tax cousin medics. host: i'll have eric jump in and
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talk about this. scene toey came on the some extent as an answer to the heritage foundation. it used to be that it was the conservative organization that dominated the clearly slanted space in the think tank world. aftere extent, i think the clinton administration, the left realize, if there is going to be heritage, cato, to the conservative side than the liberals should have their own think tanks that promotes the progressive agenda. the center for american progress was created by podesta, and now the clinton did -- campaign. focused agendat driven organization that parallels, not as extreme as the
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heritage. beginning of the growth on the left of ideologically oriented think tanks. complicated washington is that you have more and more ideologically driven think tanks. it's hard to distinguish if it's the ideology that's influencing the report or the strength of the argument and the data that is driving the conclusions. the center for american progress is featured in the stories in a modest way. and anlow browner advisor in the obama administration had the title of scholar at the center for american progress. it is an unpaid position but at the side time she had become a paid consultant to nuclear matters, which is a nuclear industry entity that is promoting the preservation of nuclear power plants in the
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united states. presentations and places around the world where she was introduced as a former epa official and a distinguished scholar at the center for american progress, then she wanted to talk about we need to do more about the nuclear power plants because they are in --.rtant part of our before the story came out, she stepped
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♪ >> ♪ ain't no mountain low enough ain't no river wide enough to keep me from getting to you, babe remember the day i set you free i told you could always count on me from that day on i made a valve i'll be -- vow\ i'll be there when you want me someway, somehow. ain't no mountain high enough a no valley low enough a no river wide enough to keep me from getting to you, babe no way ♪ ♪ >> good afternoon. welcome.
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"hillary"]ting [cheers and applause] >> 61 years ago, a gentleman was driving down the road here and a vehicle pulled beside him any thoughts to -- he things to himself i need to think of a name. it was an oldsmobile and he said, that is great. doingried a small company small odd jobs with continuous investment in the company at facilities and employees, community college, furniture this is what you stand in today. thank you for being here. i would like you to beatrice to -- i would like to introduce you to madam secretary hillary clinton. [cheers and applause]
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mrs. clinton: thank you. thank you so much. i have to tell you i am thrilled to be here for a number of reasons. first, it is wonderful to be back in michigan. feel the energy and dynamism that is driving this state's come back. in detroit, we have got new businesses opening, neighborhoods like midtown and eastern market are coming back. the auto industry just had it best year ever. [cheers and applause] mrs. clinton: high-tech firms are thriving. the next generation of engineers here,tting trained, and so well named, you are on the front lines of what i believe
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will be a true manufacturing renaissance in america. [applause] i just was given a by markt exciting tour and john who were telling me about how this company was started as and for most of its early history, was an auto supply company. then in 2000 as the market began the auto and some of companies begin to realign, they were faced with a choice. we all face choices in life, don't we? this company could have just said, hey, you know, our business will not be what it was. we have got to just pulled up
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and let's just kind of quit. but that is not what happened here. what happened here is what happened across america. you are in now what is largely an aerospace company. [applause] and because of the workforce and the work ethic, and the commitment, of future -- you are seeing the future unfold. so i got to see what is happening here, to help build the rocket that is going to go to mars. [cheers and applause] mrs. clinton: i saw the two halves of an f 35 nosecone waiting to be put together.
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i talked with some of the absolute firsthe -- perfection required to do the work. what i believe with all my heart is what is happening here can happen is so many place as if we put our minds to it, if we ifported mass manufacturing, we are the kinds of country that once again understand how important it is to build case. we are builders who need to get back to building. [applause] mrs. clinton: so we are making progress. none of us can be satisfied until the economic revitalization we are's being in some parts of michigan reaches every community, but it is inspiring to see this combination of old-fashioned hard work and cutting edge innovation. i know my opponents in the
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election was here in michigan about week ago and it was like he was in a different place. detroit onited monday, he talked only of failure, poverty, and crime. about whatng so much makes michigan great. [cheers and applause] and the same is true when it comes to our country. he describes america as an embarrassment. quote, we are becoming a third world country. look around you, my end. go visit with the workers building rockets. that does not happen in third world countries. [applause] mrs. clinton: we have a lot of urgent and important work to do and that is what i will talk about today. all the people i have met
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throughout this campaign really negative,wrong this pessimistic view is. america's best days are still ahead of us, if we make up our minds to go out and make that happen. [applause] just consider our assets. we have the most dynamic, productive workforce in the world, bar none. [applause] mrs. clinton: we have the note -- the most innovative businesses, top colleges, universities, community colleges, training programs in and the best science and technology. we have enormous capacity for clean energy production to we are resilient, determined, hard-working. there is nothing america cannot do if we do it together.
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because this is how i was raised. i do not think mr. trump understands any of it. we have offered credible solutions to the very real economic challenges we face. those challenges emerged long before the great recession and they have persisted through our recovery. too much inequality, too little upward mobility. it is just too hard to get ahead today. but there are common sense could dour government that would give americans more opportunities to succeed. powerfuldo it because special interests and the tendency to put ideology ahead of political progress have led to gridlock in congress.
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how can you not be frustrated and angry when you see nothing getting done? feel know what is on their side and no one has their back. that is not how it is supposed to be in america. fortunate enough to be your president, i have your back every single day. [applause] my mission in the white house will be to make the economy work for everyone and not just those at the top. this is personal for me. the americanuct of middle-class. i was born in chicago, raised in the suburb. but my grandfather worked at the scranton mill in scranton, pennsylvania.
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my dad will be a will to go to college and eventually small business, and send me out into the world to follow my own dreams. i have always remembered the daughter of a small business owner and the granddaughter of a factory owner and proud of both. [applause] whether we will be able to do that bargain on even better terms for the 21st century, it depends in large measure on the outcome of this election.
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questions i hope the american people will ask of both candidates. the answers should help make crystalice in november clear which candidate has a real plan to create good paying jobs? second, who will ensure that those at the top pay their fair .hare of taxes [applause] mrs. clinton: third, who will for families,at and fourth, who will really go together and deliver results that make a difference in your lives? [cheers and applause] mrs. clinton: now i hope that after giving a fair hearing to
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both sides, you will join the millions of people across the supporting this campaign, not just democrats but a growing number of republicans and independents as well. when it comes to creating jobs, i would argue it's not even close. even conservative experts say trump's's agenda will pull our economy back into a recession. analysis by former economic adviser by senator john mccain, you add up all of the ideas from cutting taxes to starting a trade war with china to deporting millions of hard-working millions, the result would be a loss of 3.4 million jobs. [booing] mrs. clinton: by contrast, the
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same analyst found that our plan, the economy would create more than 10 million new jobs. [applause] let me tell you how we would do that. i believe every american willing to work hard should be able to pay backb and decent and support the family. starting on day one, we will work with both parties to pass the biggest investment in new, good paying jobs, since world war ii. [applause] put clinton: we will americans to work, building and modernizing our roads, bridges, tunnels, railways, airports. [applause] mrs. clinton: we are way overdue
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for this. we are living off of the investments made by our parents and grandparents generation. we also help cities like detroit and flint connect underserved neighborhoods to opportunity expanding affordable housing and we will prepare schools and failing water systems as well. [cheers and applause] mrs. clinton: i happen to think we should be ambitious. we shoulde at it, push every household in america to broadband by the year 2020. [cheers and applause] mrs. clinton: it is astonishing to me how many places in america, not way far away from cities, but in cities, and near
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cities, that do not have access to broadband. who areadvantages kids asked to do homework using the internet, 5 million of them live at homes without access to the internet. you talk about the achievement gap, it starts right there. and moreld a cleaner resilient power grid with enough renewable energy to power every home in our country as well. [applause] some country is going to be the clean energy superpower of the 21st century and create millions of jobs and businesses. it will probably be china, germany, and america. . would want it to be us we should make it and use it and exported.
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and here is something you do not always hear enough of from democrats. to create more jobs at a higher pay. us, creating an infrastructure bank to get private funds off the sidelines and complement our private investment, 25 of in dollars in could unlocknding more than $250 billion and really get our country moving on plan, and $10ture billion in what we call make it in america partnership to support american manufacturing and recommit research to create entire new jobs.
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when i was talking to workers along the way and asking them were some of the precision machinery came from that is being used here, it is what i hear all over the country. germany, japan, italy. i want to bring that decision manufacturing back to the united states. there is no reason we cannot begin to make those machines ourselves and supply the rest of the world instead of buying from somewhere else. [applause] mrs. clinton: let's also expand incentives like the new market tax that is that can bring businesses, government, and communities together to create good jobs and places that will be left out and left behind. from neglected neighborhoods into choice and find, to logging country, coal country, native american communities, rural
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areas, ravaged by addiction and lost jobs, to a region how about when factories close. president, i will also make a major push to empower small businesses and entrepreneurs. [applause] with new national initiatives to cut red tape at every level and asked and access to credit, especially through community banks and credit unions. i will propose a new plan to tax filingy simplify for small businesses. [applause] mrs. clinton: right now, the smallest businesses, the kind my dad had, a really small business, spent 20 times more per employee to prepare their largerompared to
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companies. it should be as easy as printing out a bank statement. let's free entrepreneurs to do what they do best. innovate, grow, and higher. [applause] thisclinton: mark said company started because of a drive down the road, thinking about it and talk about it, one of the oldsmobile -- deciding not only do i have an idea, in america, if you can treatment, you should be able to build it. we will get back to doing that. [cheers and applause] mrs. clinton: now donald trump has a different view. he has made a career out of stiffing small businesses, from atlantic city to las vegas. there are companies that were left hanging because he refused to pay their bills. a lot of those companies scraped together what they could to pay their employees, and many of
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them put their businesses at risk and some of them ended up taking bankruptcies. it was not because trump could not pay them. it is because he would not pay them. that is why i take it personally. my dad ran a printing plant. he had to really long tables. he printed for draperies. he would lay out the fabric and then would take a silkscreen and he would go down the table and take the squeegee, go across the screen, lifted up, go down, all the way at the end and then dart at the other table. he worked hard and then when he finished, he would load up the fabric, put it in his car, and take it to the business that had ordered it. maybe a restaurant or a hotel or some office.
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he expected to be paid when he showed up. he did the work. he paid for the supplies for the labor required on big jobs. he expected to be paid. i cannot imagine what would've happened to my father and his business if he had gotten a contract from trump. shelling out and submitting his bill, he is told we are not going to pay and if you do not like it, sue us. my father could never have sued a big organization like that. i do not understand it. kinds of workers, painters, plumbers, i have met small businesses that provided piano's and glass and marble, ,ll of whom were denied payment and after going back time and again and being told, maybe we will take -- maybe we will pay
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you $.50 on the dollar, it is not how we do business in america. we have got to create more good jobs that are going to help more people. our modern service economy is empowering consumers with more choices and greater flexibility, but we do have to empower the workers in our service sector. the people taking care of our children and our parents, they deserve a good wage and good benefits and a cure retirement. [applause] mrs. clinton: and it is crucial that every american have access to the education and the hills a need to get the jobs in the future. so we will fight to make college tuition free for the middle-class and debt free for everyone. [cheers and applause] mrs. clinton: we will also liberate millions of people who
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already have student debt by making it easier to refinance and repay what you all as a portion of your income so you do not have to pay more than you just not right donald trump -- it is just not right donald trump can ignore his debt but students and families cannot refinance their debt. toe's something else i want -- emphasize. i don't think anyone in america ,s talking about this enough and that is a four year degree should not be the only path to a good job in america. [applause] you should be able to learn a skill, practice a trade, make a good living doing it. so many americans have the talent ail

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