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>> good afternoon. i'm marvin taylor, the director of the library. it is a pleasure for me to welcome you here to our next critical topic in foods. food studies 20 years. is the movement really changing food? i'm delighted that you all joined us here. we have one of the largest collections of cook's in the country. we have over 60,000 at this point. the collection has largely been built on donations and i would like to thank meryl evans who is here who gave up some of her collection. we continue to build that collection. people always ask how the collection is accessible. we have about half of the books cataloged. you can check there. we also have archival materials. you can find it in our website.
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and important papers there. groups from the 70's and 80's. we welcome people, it at the affiliated with nyu to make an appointment. it is here to be a resource for everybody interested in food. wanted to mention a couple of titles that have come in. who would come up with the vegan, "gluten-free the comfort food"? i'm not making that up. feasting, a field
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a wideo wild food." swath of the cook book world. [applause] >> one of the reasons we wanted to gather tonight and particularly after 5:00 is wanted you to have all the sunshine you could get. it is astounding that we would have a day like this to been celebrating the 20th anniversary of food studies as an academic program. i was at a book party on the upper east side and there is a book she had written for the new york times and we started
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walking, we knew each other a little bit, i said let's walk a little bit. we were on 96 come up before we had gotten all the way here to washington square and she convinced me to help her food up the nutrition department and 20 years later, there who study -- there were food studies programs all over the country. the program here is thriving. it is extraordinary that we are now helping to educate already incredibly smart people. the difference between some who graduate from a cooking school and the food studies program is vast. we're going to talk about the first in a series of conversations. three of them this year. the headline is food studies 20 years and. we tend to get a perspective on what is happening. where we are and what is going on. and in a lot of cases, what the
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impact of what a lot of us have been discussing in learning about has been or might be or hasn't been. as you know, we are being shown not just for archives accessible to everyone, what's this get edited, and such is available when hundred 50 thousand times here, these archives are looked at, reviewed, research, utilized for book research, classes, we're pleased to be broadcast on c-span sometime in april. if you would like to see the back of your head late at night, this is the place to be. we have a collection of very smart people. i will just them one by one see you know who they are. i will ask them to tell about their work and their thoughts. first, mitchell davis come executive vice president. applause for mitchell please. [applause] then nielsen, executive director of just foods.
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[applause] and then an author of a number of very amusing and smart books, he writes for vanity fair and his claim to fame in this house is he is the author of the now 10-year-old book, united states of arugula. [applause] next we have some of whose actually doing the political work in washington and she will tell us more about that, executive director of food policy action, claire benjamin. [applause] and the current chair of the department, professor of nyu department of nutrition and food studies. nutrition and food studies together again where they belong. dr. krishnendu ray.
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[applause] some of this as we have our conversations is a little bit about how i spent my summer vacation. mitchell was in our first graduating class, first class and is a phd from this study. it took him a little longer than some. >> i just graduated in the first class. [laughter] >> among the many interesting and fun and smart things that mitchell does, he took the food expo for american food to milan for six months. he drank a lot of espresso. we are going to ask him what he thinks about starbucks coming to italy. first, give us the helicopter view of food studies since he started in this program and give us a moment or two to be the american food guide at milan. >> sure. i was at the first meeting that
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marion told you to convene about starting this department. i was someone sitting around a table with a bunch of smart people in the food world. there wasn't really a food world back then. just people working with food. thinking about what a program could be was amazing. i thought i have to sign up. and started the following year and applied as a phd candidate. the thing that was so exciting about that at the time was i was the food geek would be competing on television with a junior chefs show and i was always interested in food but not something that a middle-class jewish kid could do with this -- his head held high. i don't regret not being a chef.
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the idea that there would be an academic program that would look at food which was more akin to how i personally integrate the idea of food into my life which is that it is a cultural phenomenon, their experts and artists and important topics related to food in a place where you could perhaps study that and do something with that information and cultivate that information was exciting to me. it is so funny to think that it was a radical idea but as you know, it was an incredibly radical idea. for a lot of people, the radical idea and academia more than anywhere else, except that today you can study food and history, food legitimately in sociology, anthropology, all these places have touched on food but you could not declare yourself a food studies person. this program had a tremendous amount to do with that. that was also time for this moment that began the current garden foodstuff we live in. that was planted back then. the timing of all that happened. i have seen this incredible
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transition from food being a particular interest in following -- of folly of the rich and the rich of a certain age to being just a cultural phenomenon. i can go to university campus without the food group running to talk to him each year and the more i travel around and for the expo project we travel around for two years try to digest everything happening in food so we could make an accurate representation in the long -- milan. their prevalence of enthusiasm for food culture was overwhelming. to the point that is weird.
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the fact that i can't get away from food is bizarre. i appreciate it. i do hope one day for another panel, all of that will receive -- recede a little bit and calm down and will meld into the background of what it means to live a good life the way i got to experience it. the expo project allowed the team we were working with to try to figure out both what the world thinks about food because we created the american cuisine at the world fair. the first time in 156 years that the welfare had really seen food. industry are technology or sustainable cities. honestly known adheres to those being anyway and people do what they want to do. the italians this year, it was italy wanted the countries to focus on food, the only right to be doing anything because of
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international treaties was the thematic statement that the country submitted and they wanted every pavilion to address the topic of how we will feed the future and represent food culture. i will be done quickly. we traveled around the country trying to figure out what on earth we could present and we're up against the idea of what does everyone expect to see and trying to negotiate that and learning about size of that was important to the success we ultimately have to we were the most popular pavilion at the expo. we had 6.5 million visitors in the course of six months. what we did was and try to make it american food or american food culture, we actually celebrated the diversity that we had that we sometimes take for granted and represented the voices from across the whole
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spectrum of food in america whether they were grassroots political activists or old american regional recipes. or fusion mashup of food trucks. i don't know that anybody of the 6 million people left having any clear idea of this is what american cuisine is. i don't that it -- think that is a question that should even be asked. the idea of the attitude that is represented in the food, the openness, all the things that are part of the american ideal are what we communicated in our exit surveys and immediately got shows that a million times over. there was an article that pitted the style of the american presentation against the russian pavilion which was next to us. the architecture, it placed our ideologies as authoritarian versus democratic. that is what our food is. it is open, we take for granted
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that we are not just open to change, but we expect it. we don't expect today's meal to be the same as tomorrow's. that is so unique. that is something we presented. in an essay, we presented that attitude more than a cuisine. >> my goodness. [applause] >> i grew up in southern california and the tangerines were off the back trees and the roses were fragrant and the apricots were ripe and all of that happened. i was excited that tang could be mixed with a glass of water. in all these new innovations made it possible for my mother to make food that came in a plastic bag so that she would not have contact with it. as i moved to northern california, ended up in a tea shop in the debate of the grocery where i got to find the finest foods in the world and develop for others mostly in the reflected eye of others, a sense of connoisseurship that have since found incredibly
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embarrassing and tedious. in that period of time i've come to know the difference of the discovered something with a long history in the noting something at the best of something as a very odd cultural statement. in the meantime, it turns out that there are other reasons to care about what i'm eating. when i learned about social justice, it was from cesar chavez and migrant farmworkers in the central valley of california. i knew from an early age that people got hurt making food easy and inexpensive for me. i was somewhat astounded and mesmerized and a little bit offended by the whole thing. in the meantime, many movements developed. our next speaker is somebody who helps to run an organization that looks at this at a very practical level. the last time i was at one of your conferences which is coming up again, 800-1000 people in the middle of a rainy saturday afternoon were talking in really practical terms about what they were doing.
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it was not a political movement. it was activity and action and discussion. please help me welcome jasmine nielsen, executive director of just food. we do not mean only food, we mean food with a sense of social justice. tell us about what that means and what you are doing. >> just food was started 20 years ago by a group of people that were looking at the movement towards sustainable agriculture and the antihunger movement thinking that there should not be parallel lines. we had farms disappearing and we have people in the city were hungry. they convened the first conference the first year and what they eventually hit on was the first thing they did which was csa. community supported agriculture. at the point that just food was founded, there was one csa in
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new york city. there are now 130 in our network. from the beginning, there was a focus on making sure that was accessible to everyone. regardless of income. csa often involves payment upfront and loans and pay-as-you-go for certain people. we also successfully lobbied to make sure you could use snap benefits or food stamps over -- stands. over time it really evolved to become community given solutions to bringing fresh fruit and neighborhoods that did not have that. we do that in a variety of ways. we support urban farmers and community gardeners and growing for the communities. out of that they said, that we are growing. we did the train the trainer model. we teach people how to grow. out of that they said we are growing enough food that we want to be able to formally sell it.
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we want to start our own farmers markets and the told us we had to learn and we went out in large and learned alongside them. we now have about 27 community run farmers markets around the city. we also do community food education. a train the trainer model where we train people in the communities of cope with special ingredients. how to cook in a seasonal and local manner. we also have a farm to pantry program where we contract with farmers up state to grow food specifically for pantries. this is not leftover food. this is food that has grown for them. they get to go and grow. farmers start to growth and that the pantry clients like. it is a symbiotic relationship. over time we have evolved into a capacity building organization. we don't say here's what you should do to improve the food situation, we say what you see as the problem and what you see as the solution? how can we support you?
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>> that is wonderful. [applause] i say that because in northern california, where the farm community is very connected. that sounds like the activity that would go on in any community that cares about their food anywhere. the fact it is going on in new york city is really started. something that i thought without having, but you been doing it for 20 years. tell us when the next conference is. >> this coming sunday on march, 13. i put postcards at the back that you can go to. justfoodconference.org. it is about 800 people from all aspects of the food maven. -- movement. a great chance to network and
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understand the particulars of the food system. if you have ever read about or thought about the south beach wine and food festival, this is the opposite. god bless. everybody should do what they want to do. mitchell. am i right? the next gentleman writes about a lot of things. he tells wonderful stories. he reveals delightful or painful truths, and he wrote a book that i now handout as kind of curriculum for working with me on any of my projects. >> kind of? >> kind of. you gave me a big discount so that was good. please welcome david kamp. you started writing this book some time ago.
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10 years ago you published united states of arugula. the title of your book got barack obama elected twice. tell us how that came to be in the short story. >> my narrative echoes a bit of mitchell's, which is that i felt like mitchell, i was obsessed with food and i saw it not just sustenance, but as cultural history, american history and i was looking for this book to read, a book to explain how we made such great strides. for the under 40's in the room, this may sound absurd, but there's a time for us over 40 when things like holding coffee -- whole-grain coffee and balsamic vinegar and guccis and salad greens other than remain iceberg were mind blowing. no one had written a comprehensive history on how
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this happened. some of the people you have heard of like james beard and julia child. in the early 2000's, i started working on this book and it came out in 2006. authors as i'm sure you all know our -- are insufferable narcissists. when i finished the book, when naturally things of the author because i am publishing this book and we reach some sort of historical endpoint. history cannot proceed from here. i won't take everyone else's time. i will give you some bullet points. some of the amazing ways it has only gotten bigger in the last two years.
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solid example but a telling one, mark bittman was a cookbook author migrated from the new york times over the course of 2006 to the present from being the recipe page from 2011-2015 to being the op-ed page writer. suddenly food is on the op-ed. then he did a meal kit start up in california. the obamas who were not in office when the book was published brings the national nutrition policy advisor. you have a president and first lady not sidelining food, but making it an essential part of their policy. 10 year sustained decline in soda sales. we have to give some credit to nyu who has been beating the drums about this. i never thought seriously in my lifetime that we would see soda sales to climb.
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the american people were aware that there is better tasting food. the last thing i will mention because it sets up claire nicely, one of the last people i interviewed was the chef tom teleglobe. he was feeling ambivalence about expanding his restaurants outside of new york city. he said i don't know if i'm doing the right thing. i feel like i'm addicted to the deal. what is wrong with me? two funny things happen, he became a celebrity tv star. he embraced the celebrity and the franchising. the flipside of that is he started this organization called food policy action. he wanted this stake.
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and that leads nicely to the next person, claire. i guess it does. [applause] >> sometimes i think i am in control. >> i seized the wheel. >> marvin, we're going to pass out some three inch by five inch cards. if you have questions you want asked, i will clean it up for you and ask the question. write your question on the car and pass it up front. they are right here. thank you. our next speaker is somebody who does it every day. thank you david for the segue. a lot of us talk about these things in terms of public
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opinion and the op-ed page. in terms of cultural expositions and entertainment and in terms of popular culture and nonfiction or possibly slightly nonfiction. somebody has to do something about the policy, and a lot of us feel that our influences the only thing that matters in a lot of us feel that their influence is the only thing that matters. what is the role of politics? what is the role of the not simple policymaking? sorry. i just began to think of -- nevermind. it is too upsetting. claire benjamin dimattina is the executive director of food policy action. welcome, claire. [applause] the brief tutorial, what is your organization, how does it work? and is tom any help at all? >> a little bit of context.
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we are a fairly new organization. we have been around since 2012. founded by ken cook and a handful of other really great and policy leaders before coming over to food policy action in 2013, i spent 10 years on capitol hill working for a handful of really good food policy leaders. i worked for senator leahy and for my last five years i worked for congresswoman chellie pingree who is unique. she came to congress as an organic farmer. she sees food policy issues as nonpartisan issues that to be embraced. when she came to congress, she really challenged me to find the policy that would be impactful and would be meaningful to consumers. we came up with a great deal. a first of the time we made some good strides but will we found over and over again was despite enormous changes and a lot of the details are talking about, &
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-- despite enormous changes in the marketplace, members of congress did not have the information that their voters cared about these issues. when we approach them about things like additional funds for farmers markets or reducing barriers for local production, they really only had heard from the opposition. they had only heard from agribusiness and large agriculture lobbyists and they did not understand that these were huge shifts happening in states across the country. around the same time, shelley and i started talking to some food experts about why were we losing big fights? why were we losing on the farm bill and child nutrition authorization when things are happening across the country and politicians were only hearing from the opposition, the people
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benefiting from the status quo. one of the reasons and the change is that despite these big changes, there is nobody holding congress accountable for their votes on food policy. while it matters to voters, there was nobody connecting the dots. similar to the league of conservation voters or the nra, we had to put together a scorecard so that voters across the country could easily see how their elected officials were putting on the issues that we see as a value statement. everything from legislation that would reduce hunger in america to sustainable farming, environmental impact of the food production in the score all of those. this fall we will put out our fifth scorecard and i will say year after year we start here for more members of congress that they realize people are paying attention. we see scores overall, republicans and democrats increasing. it is being shared more widely and we are not at the end of this by any means.
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we're starting to see real change. to answer your question, tom is incredibly helpful. he came to this as an advocate for hunger. he worked for a long time raising money for a lot of really good organizations in our city to reduce hunger in america and reduce hunger in new york city. what he saw for things we saw which were despite the good work, it is very important, we were not making real change. the policies coming out were not doing anything to really reduce hunger. while he still remains an important hunger advocate, he understands how all these things are connected. >> that it's really good news. [applause] in the last 24 hours, whole foods has announced he will try
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to program selling less-than-perfect looking produce for a lower price, something we call a natural food grocery or a farmers market. [laughter] a new program, very exciting. several other companies have announced other programs. the schedule of people announcing who want absolute all the credit and financial gains for what they are promising to maybe do some are down the road, that something a good idea and is similar to what they think consumers one or the general public wants. it is wonderful to hear all of this. now, we have a sociologist, who will tell us a little bit about what he sees from all this. what are we looking at? >> that is a small question there. let me start with my role in this department. most importantly, the department which is a little unusual.
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reveals how we look at things including marion's work. which is crucial. the attrition and public health. as the institutional ecology. what is interesting about nutrition and food studies is this, we want to pay attention to nutritional science and often what we see with increasing skepticism developing is sometimes skepticism without limits. skepticism without reason can end you up in a place where you are spending a ton of money drinking zero calorie water. water was always zero calories. or following every fad which is almost the ecology of too much doubt and skepticism. a conspiracy. you will end up like the climate change deniers. we want the department in which people are informed about the science and is evidence-based. but within reasonable limits. understanding how science happens.
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that science happens with all kinds of revisions, but we know a few things well. we know some things marginally, some things we don't know anything about at all. think about modern medicine, think about, some have used this metaphor, the donor. at the heart of it is the placebo effect. we know relatively little about the placebo effect. we have to design our science as double-blind studies because we don't know how placebos work. what we know as the doughnut. and then what we don't know as we expand outward, we want to be in a department that has, understands the science and the limits of the science and understands the politics of science but also learns in the social sciences and humanities. that is the instigation behind the department in a sense were nutritionists had a good sense
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of what is good for people but people did not follow them. the question is made we don't understand people. that went back to how do we understand people? we have to understand behavior and how do we understand behavior? we have to understand motivation.
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it goes back to the anthropological question, food has to be good to think with to be able to eat. in some ways, the problem may be paying too much attention to nutrition. nutritionism maybe the problem of the food system and away way we pay attention and ignore things. our mission is in fact to work on the science, understand the science and understand the limits of the science and then look at what we can learn from the social sciences and humanities. that is the big picture sense of it. do you want me to stop your? -- here? >> i want you to pause. this is all about an academic program of liberal arts and sciences. this is about being properly educated. everything you said makes complete sense and what is
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shocking is that is not what people always thought. >> it is a bifurcated culture where we think one side is fine. real intensive talks to each other and learning from each other. our department, we don't always talk to each other and we are not always nice to each other when we talk to each other. but we are building a culture especially amongst the students which is a sense to take culture seriously and take the science seriously. >> what is interesting is that
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some years ago, i was asked to facilitate a conversation at the smithsonian and it was, the museum of natural history and what we did was we gathered everyone together, scientists, people who make dioramas, those people are fun. science journalists and academics and what not, at the beginning, i do not know what they were talking about, i was just there to help and ask question. in the beginning they had stated that anthropology is here, it is a bird in a drawer and culture apologies us. and that there was relevance. that is what you are talking about. talking about the last 20 years, how much of the movement have
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you seen as what we would call the food movement which is not academic, the academics have responded writing kind. what you see as the food movement? >> academics is usually 20 years behind the marketplace. contrary to what we think, is in fact a conservative institution that conserves knowledge. it can be at the leading edge, in some ways it has nothing wrong with it, but it is fascinating and partly with the other commentators have said especially coming from the james beard foundation, in my book, my most recent book, the ethnic restauranter, it tends to this question, food is good and important and we should pay attention to it, but we should probably also pay attention to as much as questions of livelihood. when i see as liveliness and
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livelihood, liveliness of cities depends on sustainable lives. if we care about liveliness of cities, we should be caring about livelihoods and in some ways, that if the two parts of the movie. some degree of conflict and some degree of commentary. good food and just good. -- just food. sometimes the obsession with good food can lead to adjust to. -- unjust food. you can also reverse that. good people don't just want to live miserable just lives. pleasure is important. justice is important to us. the lessons we learn is precisely that. some degree of conflict.
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my students invested in food, the are students invested in food the way they invested in music. i don't exactly understand that. >> in a self defining and context thinking. it is not just what i listen to, it is who i am wishing to it. it is why i'm been watching -- bench watching shows. try to understand everything. >> to that point. >> marvin is going to walk down the center of the aisle waiting and he will collect any of those two by five cards with questions. don't be shy. some things from the panelist, when i said we were in this moment, a roman to seize, partly i think that is because of the very confidence of the idea that we are at this time, good food and just food and gastronomic we important to all happen to be coming to be the same food. that doesn't happen a lot.
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as i was never happened before. you know, the idea that farm to table -- 50 years ago, the idea that a farm to table restaurant absurd. trendy is i say 100 years ago because you went to restaurants for something else. ask david this question. fair, written in vanity the idea that farm to table is over. i wrote a polite letter saying, stop it, we have been working 40
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years to get someone to pay attention. david, how important are words? words are really important to someone who makes their living as a writer. rem -- suddenly the indy people were like, they filled out. that.analogous to people say, the food has become so hyped.
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it really hasn't. , ofnderful journalist restaurant critic from "the new york times." >> she complained for many years because she had a rent-controlled apartment. >> she is a great journalist, -- very wary had onenk she legitimate point. congratulatory about thinking about food, food policy, in food consciousness. it deals with fair
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treatment of workers, poverty, and the rest. more now, it is simply due to mass media. mass media equals awareness. this greater amount of mass media is a wonderful thing. like thestupid things, burger in japan is stupid. >> let's be honest, instagram is a double edged sword. i want to ask jasmine and clear, how will be food movement create studiesobs for the food graduates? no shortage here. these are good, practical questions. >> i want to pick up on the last
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thread. there are a lot of questions about if we are really changing the food system. probably a lot of people in this room eat in what they think is an ethical way. i'm getting paid to sit at this table, to be honest. to achieve the change we are seeking, we have to open the food movement up to a lot of people and not just to us. to certain extent that will be ing some control. a lot of us think we have found the problem and know the solution. we will have to give power over to the people who are most impacted, and support them in solutions. out of that, i think we will see the food movement change in bigger ways that will create more opportunities for food
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jobs. [applause] >> can doing the right thing about food be monetized? i guess that is the big question. that is a lot of what you are doing. is it considered that this will create more jobs or jobs that are better for people to live better lives? >> currently, seven out of the worst paying jobs are related to the food system. there is a problem there. we need to engage in some of the justice issues. we need to be part of the fight for 15. we need to engage in these bigger food sites that impact people. first of all, all of that. the justice issues, fair wages for work. there is a question of people and in academic way studying the food system and what the future
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of that looks like. from a personal perspective when i started working on food issues in washington it wasn't really like food issues in washington. 1500 lobbyists, double the size of the defense department lobbyists. a lot of people are working to keep the status quo the way it is. as the country has started to emerge, that is being reflected in jobs in washington as well. while we don't have the numbers that our counterparts do, there are tremendous organizations. nine to five lobbying for better policy, i've only seen that grow
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in strides. as we look at the next big sites we will see that grow more and more. aaron: how do you think people will view things as political? the role of culinary schools. this started 10-20 years ago. it was the hot thing to learn how to be a shaft and get on a tv show and go out of business. it was classical. how important is political education? do other efforts in the food system? >> i would limit that question to the students. we hear from chefs who are trying to do the right saying. treating their employees more equitably. using better sourced ingredients. a dozen asked the questions about the practices of the
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restaurants and give them a star without considering the value ratio of quantities served and priced. i won't -- someone i know well has a meal with someone who is a food editor of one of the largest papers in the world. how do you celebrate that and not take things into account? it is irresponsible to separate those. the rider's, the food magazines, the places you will find these things least discussed ironically, that is part of the problem.
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>> it brings up the question, some of the issues are discussed on the food pages of the new york times in this cultural look. we have found this lovely culture. aren't they wonderful they take these beans and grow them? i'm oversimplifying. there is this word, ethnic food. some find it condescending. i was talking to a food writer in the west and i said don't use that word. how about exotic? i said, that is worse. give us a word about the integration of food culture. >> what i find most promising is the fight for 15 and minimum
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wage. the question of labor. what i find really heartening, 21 states have gotten involved. we have a candidate in the political mainstream who drives labor issues. that is radical. that is a good symptom of where the food movement could push things. the minimum wage question, because they are going to be these jobs, you have to move the bottom of the market. i'm looking at the configuration of forces allowing this discussion i would have never dreamt in the shadow of what is called the post-reagan united states. the ground has shifted on that.
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the second related challenge, how do you bring in stakeholders into engaging with this? especially where the stakeholders are transnational migrants. labor, produce and clothing. if we have to find a mechanism of collaboration and coordination across national spaces because everything is moving, that is the central challenge. my work is a small part of this engagement. the cold troll politics. if you look at american cities, occupations, most food related occupations, we have data where we ask people there occupations. we ask people their workplace. 70 to 90% of rulers, saloon keepers have always been
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foreign-born. that raises an interesting question. american food has always been foreign food. which i find a fantastic thing. i think american food cultures changes every 20 years. that is its promise. we are in the middle of the transportation -- transformation. it raises a question. this war, it's a world of people who are called everyday folks and then there are celebrity cooks. i have space, i have income. it allows me to cook when i wish to. the burden of everyday cooking at the heart of that is the problem of professionalization. it is not just a promise. it is a problem. it gives it a structure in which people who don't usually cook sociologically end up with all the benefits. that is the problem we have to crack.
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>> closing double question. lots to think about. if you leave thinking you got a complete class, we failed miserably. two things i want you to tell me about.
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in the last 20 years, what didn't happen? what did you think should have happened that didn't? you can answer either of these are both of them if you wish. what can we do? how many of you are chefs? how many are cooks at home?
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how many of you live at nyu building? these are the two questions. what can we in any field do? >> what didn't happen? it's a good question. i spent a lot of time thinking about what did happen. what didn't happen yet, i give a talk a lot to people in the hospitality industry, you learned the customer is always right, you build your business model doing that. i think what happens in the last 20 years is the production side, the chefs and the farmers, the
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artisans got really good but the customers didn't. the customers, when you look at food cultures around the world, they keep those things in check. i went to cornell and said the customer is not always right. the customer has to meet the level of the producer and put themselves in their head and understand why there are no tomatoes. the customer has to be a better customer. that is not what has happened yet. >> if you want a cup of coffee, a regular coffee, disgusting. in the last five years we have begun to have a sense of good coffee. there is always good coffee
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roasted in new york city. it wasn't respected by the pipeline. the guy who grounded, they did it -- ground it, they did not care. what can an individual do? >> the individual can -- i don't think they can know everything. i think the individual needs to cede some power and pay attention. be more mindful. to cross the street, to be more active in the process. >> i think to a certain extent consumers have come along. we're thinking differently. we have this robust -- someone said where should i go to eat?
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what do you want? farm to table. we don't even talk about farm to table in new york anymore. it is kind of a given. we have farmers markets and other ways to get food. there is a gap. it's about infrastructure and supply and scale. our food system got really big. a lot of us are advocating for this small thing. we are finding it hard to make a living. the thing we haven't figured out, what is the right size and what is that system that gets the food to the people who are going to sell it to us? >> we are going to be addressing that later this year. we love to fall in love with tiny farms. farms existed in the middle, in place that aren is beautiful. we have to talk about that.
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we will continue the conversation about 20 years in, what do we know, what can we know, and what should we know? these are good things. you think nothing didn't happen you are worried about. you think things did happen. >> i think we have an addressed that middle point. we seeing a lot of farmers trying hard and giving up. that is a sign, if we don't preserve. we can think about our purveyors and where we are getting food from and except a little inconvenience if we can afford it to invest and keep that system going while we figure out these mechanisms by which food
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is going to get around. we required to have to have a large system of small constructs to feed a billion people at least. >> what hasn't happened, a lot of really great things have happened. we are on our way. what has not happened enough, a collective buy-in from the american public. there is too much that if you care about food in america, not in france or asia, you are eva lee just -- elitist. you are made fun of for mentioning the word arugula. it goes back to the liveliness that goes hand-in-hand with livelihood. liveliness, joy.
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how do we get the public to buy-in to everything the panel has been talking about? we start with joy, the taste of good food. if they are cultivated right, it is part of what food does so well. protect people in urban settings. you slice the beat and you drizzle the olive oil. you are buying in, you are getting it. we need more of that. >> i want a t-shirt. >> i brought as a visual aid, look at the tubers. this is about the wasted food initiative. look how beautiful they are. that this was once considered unsellable food.
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>> what didn't happen and what can one person do? >> the thing that we are not doing is trying to figure how we move this incredible food movement into a political movement. how did we elect people who understand food issues are important so access to affordable health care, healthy food is a universal value? how do we change that in a significant way over the next 20 years. you can be more knowledgeable, vote this way. vote your values. find out how your elected officials are voting on these
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issues. go to plate of the union.com. ask these questions. there is so much we can do to be a more engaged food citizen in this country. >> i'm am at going what has been said. this hinge between a consumer and a citizen, connecting that, we are very good at articulating what we need, what is owed as a consumer. i don't think we make equal demands as citizens. i'm optimistic. looking at the labor movement, that is the translation that has to happen. how we take our citizenship demands. i would say one other thing, this very big system and very small system. maybe we need food at moderate
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speeds. not fast, not slow. that might be the way to build relatively efficient but relatively resilient systems. there is a trade-off. be able to build reform systems to politics. through neighborhood action, through csa's. we can build this system of food at moderate speeds and moderate scales. >> i encourage you to do what mary says, but with your fork. join us next time. let's thank the panel. [applause] >> you can talk to them. they are going to the gallery next door to have a glass of wine and a piece of something tasty.
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[captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2015] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] at live look here> washington, d.c. where a rally will be taking place today. it is being organized to raise awareness over measures to reduce gun violence. several lgbt groups are joining activists for this event. we plan live coverage for when underway.gets meanwhile, "the hill" newspaper writing help guns are becoming a cycle.ue this
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they will decide in maine and nevada whether to expand background checks. there's also an initiative in washington state that would take guns out of the hands of people who are under restraining orders suicide.k of "the hill" points out that come control activist -- advocates have made little progress over the past two years. congress has projected several gun-control bills. activist in several states say they are turning their attention out of the beltway. you can read more at theh
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ill.com. right now, on c-span, we hear more about the upcoming election. the group, "respectability usa" held a daylong event. here is a portion. >> i'm honored to welcome you to this discussion for people with disabilities across america. am an individual with a disability.
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i believe deeply, like everyone here does, that people with disabilities deserve to be able to achieve the it american dream just like anyone else. i also believe that the only way for that to happen is for those of us who either have disabilities or loved ones with disabilities take little action in our own hands to really create our own better destiny and our own better future. i'm here on behalf of respectability, a new nonpartisan nonprofit organization based here in the washington, d.c. area working on the front lines advancing opportunity for peoples with disabilities. we have a number speakers on both sides of the aisle, both democrats and republicans. we have closed captioning and american sign language. i really appreciate that are
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that here today is fully accessible. if you are following us on c-span i would like to have our publications, they are available on her website. our website is respectabilityusa.org. all of our power points are also screen reader accessible for people who are visually impaired. theuld like to thank cosponsors for helping to make this possible. we are providing this as a free public service for people in the public. i am really appreciative of their efforts. think our amazing staff. we have atrophic team. of the team are our
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young leaders. we have a national fellowship program for people with and without disabilities. they worked together in cohort where they do skill building, advocacy, writing. frontre really on the lines. we feel we work for them. we have a tremendous cohort of young fellows. i want to let all the phillies know how much we appreciate you and to let anyone who is are lookingw, we for people for the fall and spring cohort. is wonderful for people who want to go into public policy, advocacy, and media. is hoping my powerpoint
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working. that seems to be the case. i will start by saying that respectability is a nonprofit organization. all the material for this is on our website. ae in five americans has disability. one in five. that is 56 million americans. additionally, a lot of people don't understand what disabilities are. yes, disabilities can be someone using a wheelchair. that is a kind of disability, as is blindness. with aority of americans disability, it is a nonvisible disability. it is important to understand all of us are facing stigmas,
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barriers, obstacles that are keeping us from achieving what we want to achieve. beis very important to deeply involved in the political process. be completelyo nonpartisan or bipartisan. we have board members from both sides of the aisle. all of them are terrific. onent to highlight that democratn and one co-authored the disabilities act in congress and they have never stops being true champions of people with disabilities. to aill have some much yet comp list is why i'm so pleased that you are here with us today. 51% of american voters report
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they have a loved one with a disability or they themselves have a disability. disability is a very large minority group. it is also the only my door to you can join at any time due to accident, illness, or aging. if you do not have a disability y now, you might want to think of yourself as temporarily able. you never know what can happen in the future. we are all in this together. arent to also say there things that happen to people with disabilities that we need to pay attention to. one is the sexual abuse of people with disabilities that starts at a high rate with children with disabilities. i know this personally as a child of disability who could not read or write until much older. self-esteemittle and trusted someone at school
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who i should not have trusted, and in the sixth grade, i was raped. unfortunate, that is very common, children and adults alike, but is not something you hear discussed. it is one of the many reasons why we need to have political power. the second reason we need political power is because individuals with disabilities are not graduating high school at the rate that they need to. of people with disabilities graduate high school. high school graduation is very closely linked to whether or not someone enters the school to prison pipeline. people with year disabilities exit the school system. some with proud degrees and others because they were
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disciplined wrongly. only one out of every three americans who has a disability who is working age has a job. that is a pool of 22 million people, the vast majority of whom, according to polls, do want to be gainfully employed. by the way, we are encouraging integrated employment. real jobs with real wages. poverty is extreme for people with disabilities. in fact, i know a lot of people ofnk of poverty, they think racial dynamics. data, look at the disabled are the poorest of the poor. er thanen -- poor
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african-americans, latinos, or women. immigrant or aw woman with a disability, it is even more challenging. there is a massive gap in the labor force participation rate between people with and without disabilities. this is something we believe should be very much discussed in the political war of ideas. currently the majority of working aged people with disabilities are living on disability payments. our organization is actively this.g off heads on if you look at our powerpoint, there are links to op and we have published in 38 states at
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this time. with us as work fellows, we work with them on writing and placing up ads. we are very proud of the fact that we are very data-driven, always looking for better metrics. one of the reasons for that is if we don't address these issues, people with disabilities frequently have one of two outcomes. either they live at home on their parents couch until their parents die, in which case they live on the brothers couch. 11 million americans are governmentiving on benefits. or, in other cases, they entered the school to prison pipeline. there are currently 750,000 americans with disabilities that are incarcerated. 750,000.
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talking about 150,000 who are blind or fission impaired and half a million who are cognitively impaired. these are significant concerns that we have not seen fully addressed in the political advice. that is why we are having this training today. we need people like you to move these issues forward. we have a tremendous u publication on this issue. it was just published on the issues of people with disabilities who are incarcerated. we are also very interested in enabling there to be better visions of people with disabilities. we are very proud of our board member who is literally the inventor of reality television on an tv,"real world"
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tve kardashians," and other shows. we are proud to work with him on a show called, "one this way," downa cast of people with syndrome. the archer mend his people. they are tremendous people. indeed, studies have shown that "projectrams like withh," 70% of people disabilities can have jobs. we are working towards that with our team. now i will turn it over to my coworkers. you can read their bios in the program. you can see their bios on our website. i just want to say, personally, from my heart, a few things
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about these individuals. the first of whom is lauren appelbaum, who i had the pleasure of working with over the years. she is one of the brightest women in america and one of the hardest working people i have seen. anchorage every single one of you to go to our website where and sheour publication and the team have published hundreds of articles about the intersection of the presidential campaign and people with disabilities. clicksover 100,000 already. schoolt to journalism and is extraordinary. it is an honor to work with her. is other colleague unbelievable. he is so smart, he puts me to shame. when he was eight years old, a
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tv showed did an entire special about him, the smartest eight-year-old on earth. moste eight, he was the impressive young person you could ever see. to work with him in our office our-by-side, as he works on testimony, and we have some of -- itstimony in 100% of is true joy. i encourage you to join with us in these efforts. none of the work we are doing can succeed without you. without further ado, let me turn it over to philip. [applause] philip: good morning.
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we will not be- showing the clip from "unsolved mysteries" today, but it is on youtube. what i do want to talk about is our friends, neighbors, family members. as jennifer said, there are one in five americans with disabilities. in total there are over 56 million americans with one type of disability or other. millionns there are 40 voting age people with disabilities out there. as we will talk about today," can swing elections, important house and senate races, trimmed the outcome of the presidential election. we will be talking about why that matters and how you can get more involved. we would be talking about what you need to know and how we can work together. said, respectability exists to be a voice in the
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political arena. there are many voices together in the disability community. i want to take you back four years ago to the last presidential cycle before respectability existed. as jennifer was looking at the challenges facing the community, she partnered to take a poll of voters in the election looking at the lens of disability, which many posters had never really considered before. we looked at it and determined that the majority of likely voters at least knew someone with a disability. be aund that there could significant response to candidates who talked exclusively about disability issues. we found the democrats who were women were most likely to talk to the issues.
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respectability was founded in 2013 with a mission to change attitudes in society and really empower people with disabilities to pursue the american dream. critical to that is political involvement and economic involvement. the midtermore election, we conducted another poll in swing states. states like michigan, ohio, and so on. found a slightly higher percentage of voters were disabled themselves or knew someone who was disabled. we found this community was far bigger than we realize. you can see the breakdown here.
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one of the interesting findings is the likely voters that we of -- oke town in terms broke down in terms of partisanship. of saw a solid group republicans with disabilities, democrats with disabilities, and independents with disabilities. after the midterm election, the dust settled, and we looked at what motivated the voters? what cut them interested, what candidates did they vote for? key voters were most likely to vote for candidates who made it a priority to get people with employment. into
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we found employment was a critical issue, particularly for women, and noncollege educated voters. anchorage you to go to our website where we have a full questionnaire. one of the interesting things is midterm elections tend to be fairly quiet. many, besides hard-core political geeks, get out there and vote. however, people with disabilities get out there and vote. we found that people with disability's are very concerned about the economy to a greater percentage than other voters. have a breakdown here about caressues that voters most
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about. the overriding issue was the economy. we credit that very much to the gap in labor force participation rates. currently one in three americans with disability is employed. it is progress being made, particularly at the state level, but challenges remain. even as african-americans, hispanics, and women are entering the workforce in greater numbers, people with disabilities are falling behind. this matters. this can win elections. candidates are looking for
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voters at the margin. we also worked with the republican pollster who says, we are accustomed about thinking about soccer moms, hispanics, or value voters, this poll shows that americans with disabilities and those who care deeply about them are demographics we need to pay attention to in the future. i will turn it over to lauren appelbaum who will talk about our outreach to the presence of candidates. take it away. >> thank you, everyone. i know it is an early morning. we appreciate everyone who made it here. said, he brought up what brought us to why we are paying attention to this issue in the 2016 cycle. we sent our young fellows to
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canada where they spent two months attending town halls and other meetings with other candidates. all candidates in the race at the visits from our young fellows, who went and sat in the town halls and asked them critical questions on issues of employment for people with disabilities and other issues withing to what people disabilities are wanting to hear from their elected officials. you will see, here are some pictures. i will describe the ones up on the screen. you have our democracy associate justin interviewing bernie sanders. in the next photo, you have two of our fellows taking a picture with hillary clinton. the next one is with ted cruz good the next one with marco rubio. down below, you have a selfie with donald trump.
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we have pictures with john kasich and jeb bush. we felt it was extremely important to reach out on both sides of the aisle. it should not be a partisan issue. we were very careful to reach out. even when it became clear who the nominees might be, we still reached out to all the presidential candidates. just because someone is no longer running for president, it does not mean they will not have been influential position in government and media and elsewhere. a few things that we did other than a touting town halls was assist in briefings. and one of these photos, you will see a presented at from the sanders, bush, clinton, and santorum campaigns. they are all sitting down together to listen to a briefing. disability organizations to come as well,
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the ones local to new hampshire, iowa, nevada. we invited them to talk about what was important to them. we found that issues we saw on the national stage -- sometimes there were other issues on the local stage that we need to pay attention to. that our partners in these individual states were able to alert us to. an example of the impact of our work. we met with the hillary clinton campaign a dozen times or so. woman incall from a the iowa office saying, "did you know that hillary is going to be doing an autism plan?" that was wonderful, and we wanted to know how we could get involved. how could we make sure that the right people were there to get the right information? able to provide
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information like we did every other campaign about why it is important to not only reach out to people who have autism, but people with all disabilities, on a different issues -- specifically, the employment issue. that is one kind of outcome from meeting again and again. we are not the only outreach organization that has met with candidates. it is a wide coalition we are think to be a part of. we found out from our partners in iowa that a lot of caucus locations were physically not accessible. we brought it up with individuals from different campaigns who were then able to take it to the next level. while it was not fixed 100% for this cycle, we have noticed it is working. the needle is moving in the correct direction. hopefully, by the next election, people will not hold a caucus site in a house that would not be accessible for someone in a
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wheelchair or an asl interpreter for someone that might need one. another example you might have seen is priority usa, which is a pro-hillary clinton super pac. they have run it to add that feature young individuals with disabilities focused on donald trump. specifically, attacking a donald trump for supposedly making fun of a journalist with a disability. why is this significant? before, this would not have existed. you do not see and 2012 or prior , campaigns or super pac's doing ads on disability issues. we are really seeing a shift here. the shift continues in both party that forms. in the dnc platform, you have 35 mentions of disabilities which is more than double from previous cycles. in the rnc party platform, they
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really talked about the importance of advancing americans with disabilities act. employment for people with disabilities, as well as the .ssue of minimum wage q are seeing it across the aisle from both parties. they are really pushing these issues. one project that we did was our questionnaire. we sent a questionnaire to every single presidential candidate. it was an in-depth questionnaire. 16 questions on a variety of employment issues to accessibility, to housing, to stigma. we had several candidates on both sides of the aisle return the responses. that includes hillary clinton and bernie sanders on the democratic side. jeb bush, ben carson, chris christie, and john kasich on the republican side.
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we are still waiting for answers on donald trump, and we will continue to ask him to election day. tolip: the are 91 days left election day, so plenty of time to still get the questionnaire. lauren: folks like ramp-up new jersey have been going door-to-door good they have held -- i been going door-to-door. a have had several opportunities to engage candidates on both sides of the aisle to get them to answer those questions. one thing we did with these was we made individual state voter guides. e used philip and his teams' work along with testimony from each state. we sent them to the media. before this cycle, people were not paying attention to these issues. we wanted to help make that happen. senti said, they were each
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to individual state press lists. we had different press organizations say, "this is interesting. we have never covered this before." wisconsin, for example, has been asking for comments every time something has come up. it has been really great. i mentioned there is a way for everyone in this room to get involved. we had taken this presidential vote questionnaire and drafted it for the ballots. we are looking at senate and gubernatorial candidates in several different states. it is on the powerpoint here, and it is available on our website and in the handouts. everyone here received a handout that lists the candidates running in the states, their e-mail addresses, and their twitter handles. veryne -- we found it was
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effective when individuals reach out for candidates, especially if you happen to be from the states or have member chapters in those states, who can then contact those people running for senate for governor in your state. tell them that you sent them a questionnaire, and we want to have you fill it out. we want to know where you stand on these issues. information from their party platforms to answer the questions, and make their life easier. to then also look examples from presidential candidates that have filled the questionnaires out. www.therespectabilityreport.org, we do our very best to cover the intersection of disability
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issues and the presidential election. if you hear something, say -- if you hear something, see something, if you attend a town hall, several of us will be talking about our experiences in iowa and new hampshire. we can let you know how you can do that yourself on a state level. how you can make a difference. we found that attending these -- and-- the town halls asking the questions, that is how the candidates started following these issues. the press really started to cover the issues. on the other hand, if you cannot travel, you can get on social media and tweet at these candidates. you can e-mail them. there are all these different ways that you can get involved. i mentioned there were some other disability groups out there that are doing some amazing work.
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we cannot forget them. up of them include the rev movement and crib the vote. of state andlot local work. -- you can watch the rest of this event on www.c-span.org. we take you back now live to new york for live coverage of the arrays to hate rally. >> give yourselves a round of applause, we actually get it. number one -- the number one question we are asking is, "what are we here?" being proudo stop of yourself and everyone around you and ask yourself why we still have to do this. why?
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we have become complacent as a society. we swapped the names of the victims out every other week. it is not working folks. here?e, why are you it is because you allowed yourself to believe you are not strong enough to win this fight. money, and i my will trust that someone else will make things change. how has that been working so far? it is not working. i know i will upset many people with my speech and message today , and to those i upset i say good. i have will can you up. upset, because your complacency is why we are dying. we have not lost this fight because the nra and the gun lobby are stronger. we have not won this fight, because we cannot get our egos out of our own way. that changes today. [cheering] [applause]
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[inaudible] -- because we are more alike than we are different. an entire lifetime defining our differences instead of appreciating them. we must stop using the labels that others have placed on us. from talkingt us together and kept us from standing together. look at the cross-section of every race, religion, and sexual orientation today. me what kept asking does lgbtq rights and gun reform have to do with each other? i used to say a lot. 43,000. do you know what that number is? it is the estimated number of membersmes of lgbtq
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between 2010 into thousand 14 that involve a gun. tell me why those issues do not go together? today will feel like a day of overwhelming sadness and grief at time. take your moment to catch your breath as you hear the stories one after another. takeover and the smiles and love of those standing next to you. hope is still alive. lost so much and so many needlessly. we must celebrate august 13 as the day that we stood up and did not look behind us. we have to keep fighting. [no audio] >> -- we do not need big parties or elaborate events. we need to put our efforts into grassroots movements to reflect
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the demand of the majority. millions of lives are depending on us to do just that. the average donation for today's event was $21. that will tell you that today actually represents the people. we must vote and secure the family -- the future for our families and friends. we will never agree on everything. if we can agree on something, then we have a place to start and work from. i was asked what the short-term and long-term goals i wanted to achieve were for this rally today. i responded that my short-term goal was to prove that we can a limited the boundaries of labels and stereotypes long enough to realize that we can stand together to make august 13 reality. we did that. look around you. my long-term goal is to be able , children,y friends nieces and nephews, complete strangers, years from now as look at my t-shirt, thank
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you for keeping the dream alive and for standing together to erase the hate. that is not necessarily something i have control over like today's gathering, but you do. i am begging you to not let the flame go out. sandy hook, altavista, columbine, dallas, the list goes on and on. daily life in an urban city like chicago or orlando. do not let them become yesterday's headlines because it happened again. that is your choice to make. thank you. [cheering] [applause] >> welcome everybody. i am a hospital chaplain. i would like to ask

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