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so, i believe the job of the next president is to build on that, and to take on the deeper challenges that emerged long before the crisis and have persisted during our recovery. wages are too low. it is still too hard for too many to get ahead. is creating an economy that works for everyone. not just for those at the top. i have set five and dishes goals to get us there. first, we are going to make the biggest investment in jobs since world war ii. second, we are going to make college debt-free for all. we are going to help millions of people struggling with their debt payments. third, we are going to crack down on companies that shift jobs and profits overseas.
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companiesng to reward that share profits with their employees, like the scranton lace company did most a century ago. --rth [cheering] >> hillary! hillary! hillary! ms. clinton: thank you. fourth, we are going to make sure that wall street in the superrich pay their fair share of taxes. fifth, we are going to respond to the way that american families lived and worked to date by making childcare affordable. in today's economy, there is often no parent or grandparent that can stay home with the child. we are going to fight for paid family leave. sometimes, you need to take care of your child or spouse or sick
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parent. you should not lose your job for taking care of them. [applause] whenever i mention these issues, donald trump always says that i am playing the woman card. you know what i say, if i am playing the woman card then delian -- deal me in. togetherbelieve that this plan will go a far way in building a stronger, more fair economy. everyone can share and its rewards. by contrast, what is donald trump's plan? he laid it out last week. even before he did, i did not think it would be good for working americans. it turned out to be worse than i ever imagined. i know some of you may have friends in northeastern pennsylvania that are working --
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inking about voting for donald about votingking for donald trump. i know, friends should not let friends vote for donald trump. [applause] [cheering] case, ifon: just in you have a conversation, you should explain that donald trump would give trillions of tax cuts to major companies and wall street money managers. cutswould lead to massive in things like education and health care. he is also called for a new tax loophole. let's call it the "trump loophole." it would allow him to play -- pay less than half of the current income tax rate on his companies.
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it is assuming he pays any taxes at all, because we do not know. we have not seen his tax returns. [applause] ms. clinton: we do know by looking at the data that the 400 richest taxpayers in america would get an average tax cut of more than $15 million a year from the donald trump loophole. tax, there is the estate that donald trump wants to eliminate altogether. if you believe he is as wealthy as he claims, that would save the trump family $4 billion. ofwould do nothing for 99.8% all the other americans in our country. so yes, $4 billion in tax cuts for donald trump and 99.8% of americans get nothing. think of what we could do with those $4 billion. we could pay for more than 47,000 that are in's to get a ans to get a veter
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four-year college degree. we could provide a years worth of health care to nearly 3 million kids. ofcould find a years worth federal assistance to state and local law enforcement's -- enforcement. there is a lot of way to spend that money. there is one other part of his plan. he now says he wants people to help a for childcare by excluding those payments from taxation. again, guess who will that will help the most? it will help rich people. thatworking families cannot afford childcare in the first place will get little to no real help. that is why his childcare plan has been had by experts across the political spectrum.
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right now, childcare costs as much as in-state college tuition in most of the country. we need real solutions that are going to work for working people. not just for the well off. about thehat he cares issue, he made a point of talking about how his businesses offer on-site childcare for workers. that kind of perk me up. that, it wouldd be a big deal. i wish more companies provided on-site childcare. it would be a huge benefit for employees. like so much of what he says, it is not true. resorts out, some of his hotels and clubs offer childcare guests not not -- not for employees. just saying.
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if you stay at a donald trump hotel, you can enroll your child in something called "trump kids." get special children's room service and spa services. the even get a nanny for a fee. if you work for his business, if you clean the rooms, water the lines, you get nothing. [booing] ms. clinton: i am not even sure that donald trump knows that providing a trump kids program is not the same thing as providing real childcare for your workers. just like how his tax breaks for millionaires are not the same thing as a plan to help the american working families. vice president biden has a saying i love. values, telle your me your budget. then, i will tell you what you
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value. [cheering] ms. clinton: it is pretty clear that donald trump wants to give aliens of tax breaks to his best friends. not to anyone that really provide services. we face some serious challenges in america. we need serious leadership. this is not a reality tv show. this is as real as it gets. look at what is happening in milwaukee right now. to do torgent work rebuild trust between police and the communities. everyone should have respect for the law, and everyone should be respected by the law. [applause] so when all these important challenges, you have to ask if donald trump is up for the job? he is giving a speech about isis today. i have laid out my strategy for
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defeating isis over many months. sanctuarieske their from the air, and we will support local forces taking them out on the ground. under president obama and vice president biden, we are making progress. we will disrupt their efforts online to reach and radicalized young people in our country. it will not eat easy or quick. make no mistake. we will prevail. there is no doubt in my mind. [applause] [cheering] usa! usa! ms. clinton: once again, donald trump has been all over the place on isis. he spoke about syria becoming a free zone for isis. a major company in the middle
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east that could launch attacks against us and others. he is talking about sending american ground troops, well that is off the table as far as i am concerned. [applause] we will wait and see what he says today. sometimes he says he will not tell anyone what he will do, because he was to keep his plan "secret." it turns out, the secret is that he has no plan. that was very clear when he said, "i know more about isis than the generals." no, donald, you don't. he also said more people should have weapons, including the middle east. he spoke about walking away from our european allies.
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he even said that united states military was a disaster. had spent as much time meeting the have brave men and women of the military, meeting their families, meeting with gold star family's. those are not the words of someone that respects our military and the sacrifice that are young men and women make every single day. [applause] ms. clinton: i said in that a man you can bake with a tweet is not a man you can trust with nuclear weapons. it is also not a man you can trust to run our economy, health heal our cities, or be a role model for our children. there is no doubt that donald unfitis temperamentally to be president of united states and commander in chief --
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commander-in-chief. america deserves someone that bring ushe job done, together and not terrorists apart, and give jobs to hard-working americans. i'm asking you to join -- and not tear us apart. give jobs to working class americans. i'm asking you to join right now. go to hillary we are hiring organizers right here in pennsylvania and across the country. we are going to run a bidders campaign across pennsylvania -- a rigorous campaign across pennsylvania. we are going to build a future that you and your family deserves. , am sure we can do this especially with this man of fighting alongside us like he always has.
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scranton, please, let us give it up for the vice resident of the united states, joe biden. [applause] [cheering] vice president biden: hello folks. it is good to be home. folks, let me tell you what scranton deserves. >> we love you, joe. vice president biden: well, thank you. scranton deserves what it has always deserved, because it is made up of so many people with ceat and courage -- grit and ourage. i mean it with all of my heart good they are filled with grit,
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courage, and determination. they need someone that can understand them and is with them. they deserve someone who is made of the same stuff. that is hillary clinton. [applause] [cheering] vice president biden: it is good to be home with so many friends. as i look around, i see several people -- and the reception line, one person told me that there ought owns my house -- their aunt owns my house. tell her, i am coming home. wall still written there here andiden slept lived here. " i am glad that added the lived here part.
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i'm often asked why we moved a suburb ofidge to wilmington, delaware. it is because of bob casey. casthe casey's lived five blocs around the corner from the st. clair's. i am midway between bobby's dad bobby. are goingy one of us to make it out of greenwich, and it was not going to be me. there was too much casey talent in the neighborhood. , you are a great friend and great united state senator. thank you. [applause] as they say in southern delaware, they talk at you like this, that boy married up. up.arried right
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always seeking influence. you got it, man. you are doing a wonderful job as well. thank you. [applause] since this home time, but i stood here eight years ago kicking off our campaign. hillary and bill clinton at my side. i want to make it sheer -- clear that as scranton has always had , we and fact, all of us, will have your back, hillary. [applause] scranton has been met -- some of folks in our administration were there on election night when the results were coming in. igive you my word as a biden
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,sked one and only one question what did we do in the northeast? margin thanlarger we had before. the rest did not matter. full credit for it. nothing to do with it. you know, if you listen to , you would think i was a kid that just climbed out of a with a lunchbox. i am from scranton and i was a kid at one time. so often my people in delaware have represented them for 46 years as a u.s. senator. 44 years and high public office. i swear to god there is a parade started on the fourth of july just as i was getting
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started in 1972. it is right on the pennsylvania border. from the time my boys were then old, fourfour years and five years old -- three and four years old, they were in the parade with me. -- beau -- iw would tag along with him, for real, and the parade. one thing i am trying to do, have been sople generous to me after all these ,ears and the attorney general i am trying to go back and do as to show my affection and appreciation. i was in the fourth of july parade recently surprising the press and everyone because i was there. there were thousands of people
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there. many same people waited five hours and line to pay respects at my son's viewing. think them for the overwhelming support they gave me for all those years. as i continued along the parade route, two guys came running up to me. secret service was about to have a heart attack. they said, what in the hell is all this stuff about scranton, you are from clay mount. so you all have to write a note ,nd tell them i love scranton it is my home, but home is where is where it is stamped into your soul. where your values are set. where your view of the world and your place in the world began. me, 2446 north washington
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avenue around my grandfather's table is where i learned that money does not determine your net worth. that no one, i mean it sincerely , this is deadly earnest, i've learned no one is more worthy than you and everyone is your equal. mother, andom my she said this so many times. me.would say look at remember, you are defined by yourtable is where i learned tht money does not determine your courage, and you are retained by your loyalty. [applause] she would go on to say, because everyone has had tough times.
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what i learned here from my father is i could be anything i wanted to be. anything could be accomplished. this is not a joke. this is real. that's a measure of your character is not whether you get fall, becausend you will, but the measure is how quickly you get up. learned about resilience from my father, who like many of you and many of your parents made call the longest walk. the longest walk is up a short to their stairs child's bedroom to say honey, i am sorry. we cannot live here anymore. we lost the house. or daddy and mommy do not have a job. dad making that walk moving us to our grandfathers home. what i remember most is i
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you everything. i promise you everything is going to be ok. i meant it, he knew it. he used to be of basic bargain. they did well. you got to participate. bargain. what hillary is all about is you canure every one of look your child and grandchild in the eye and say i mean it sincerely. everything is going to be ok. think of how many people you who do not feel like they can say that right now. my father when the senate on the balls of his heels, he meant it.
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everything i learned is ran for neighbors and friends all around this town. pride, independents, resilience. when i moved away from scranton, was in the fourth grade, but i never left. spent summers, holidays, college weakened, weddings, mitzvahs, and for it was not the lake. , everyone ismber entitled to be treated with dignity and respect, no matter who they are. that america, and hillary gets
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this better than anyone i know, america can be defined in one single word, possibilities. that is the thing about america. that is the thing about scranton . thing about who we are. anything is possible. that is the america i know. america hillary clinton knows. [applause] the people that i trust most, and i am in doing this a long trust the people where gut,eeling starts in their moves to their heart and then .rticulated by a great mind hillary understands the hopes and aspirations of the people in claymont, scranton, and every scranton and claymont in the united dates of america.
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yearsnown her for over 30 . i knew her before she was first became firste lady. when we served together in the senate. we would have breakfast in my home. i became the obama whisperer. [laughter] she would look at me and say that?id he mean by knows this has never .een an issue -- by the way,de my family is right there. i did not even see you. secret service, you see that beautiful young girl right there? she gets back when i leave the stage. we are not leaving till i get a hug. guys. kind of a family thing.
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everybody is known as they won -- from day one how smart and great hillary is. everybody knows how tough she is. [applause] but what i don't think everybody about, and may be the irish catholic and methodist here, we where everything on our sleeves. i do not think they fully understand how passionate she is about what she does. i want you to listen for a minute. i don't want you to clap. yount to make sure understand what i know about her. that the college loan to get a bright young girl or boy to school is about a lot more than whether or not they will get a chance.
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it is about the pride and dignity of the parent who looks child. i mean that sincerely. i remember i went down to my dad's place of work to pick up a and was wondering back and forth through the parking lot. the secretary said he is out there. , walked out, and he said joey i am sorry, i am so jim sorry. he set i went to the bank today, honey, they will not lend me the to get you to school. i am so ashamed. understands that the most damaging thing too apparent is to look at a talented child or child in need and not be able to do anything. she has understood that for years.
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millions of people here in scranton and claymont and all across america went to bed ceiling thinking sheod, what happens if develops breast cancer or he develops lung cancer? we lose everything. come a we do then you .ot of you remember those days my family remember those days. she gets it. she understands what it will mean. it is more about her. these three beautiful little now, what looking at them when it is
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president hillary rodham clinton. it will change their lives. it will change their lives. my daughter and granddaughter can do anything my son and grandson's can do. that is what it will mean. it is consequential. as clearly as i can, if you live in a neighborhood like i grew up in, my wife jill grew up in, , youu worry about your job worry that your children's , taking care of an elderly parent after losing another one, there is only one person in this election who will possibly help you, and that is hillary clinton. [cheers and applause]
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>> folks, she has always been there. it is not a joke. she has always been there. life story. let's state the obvious, that is not donald trump's life story. senator ted kaufman, whom you .now very well he used to be my administrative assistant for years and years. this step the reason between --cess and genuine success excuse me, a minimum success under real success is someone who has nothing and makes $1 million is a real success. someone who inherits a million and makes 20 million, they are
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bomb, but a mere success. some are bombs. not all. let me tell you the part that bothers me. hillary wellpoint out and no one ever doubts i mean what i say. let me tell you what really most.s me maybe this only works where i grew up. what bothers me most about is the cynicism is unbound thing. think about this for a minute. you are raised in the area, different ethnicities, different backgrounds. i haves one thing noticed all the years i have sent. come home.ys
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you werehat the way raised, if you have ever shown a lack of empathy for someone in trouble, if you have ever summed up or thought the phrase he is .of, you're fired think about the phrase, you're fired. all kidding aside. maybe it is just me. about what your mother or grandmother or father would have said to you. everything you learned as a child. i really mean it. the matter where you were raised. how can there be pleasure in division and you are fired? he is trying to tell us he cares class.he middle give me a break.
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is suchepeat myself, it a bunch of malarkey. none, none. this guy does not care about the middle class. i don't even blame him and a sense because he does not understand it. clue.s not have a way, there is something thathe has no clue about has nothing to do with being a democrat or republican. i have worked with a president of the united states. served with hundreds of .enators only 13 of surface long as i have. doesn't secretary -- dozens of state and i can , no majort hesitation history inee in the
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america,d states of don't year, just listen, has less or been less prepared to deal with national security. what absolutely amazes me is he does not seem to want to learn it. not want to seem that she does not seem to want to it.n to think itseem matters. this man is totally and thoroughly unqualified to be president of the united states of america. [applause] -- lacks theikes temperament -- i would feel better if that is all he lacked.
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every issue that matters most to trump hasty, donald no clue what it takes to leave this great country. now look, if i had said this ago, you10 months would say i am being partisan. i am partisan. i am not mean about it. i do not know any more democrat that has a more positive republicans with and i do in the united states senate. but having said that, look at the people that come out. scores and scores of the most inminent republican thinkers .he national security feels they come out to both political parties. he has no idea what he is talking about. factsonfronted with the he does not want to find them. he deals with the profound misunderstanding of what is at stake. he belittles our closest allies .n this hemisphere and europe
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nations who stand with us are networkour security that are with us when we address challenge.national those who fought and bled alongside us for decades. to toss those relationships aside like his failed business venture or something. talks meantime, he covering about developing nuclearweapons as if war is a trivial affair. does he not understand we wrote japan's constitution to say could not be a nuclear power. schoolas he in [laughter] ? [laughter] someone who lacks this judgment cannot be trusted. me.e is a guy that follows .as the nuclear codes so up for bid anything happened he has theident, codes. he is not qualified to know the
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code. he cannot be trusted. [applause] proud -- my son served for a year. came back a highly decorated soldier. i must tell you, had donald , i would president have thrown my body in front of him. , to keep him it from going if the judgment was decision.rump's every president since harry truman has looked toward free in that piece. one of the most consequential people right now who is trying to undo that is a man donald trump says see admires. i am not big on character assassination. i really mean that. i am just trying to run on the
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facts, nothing but the facts. that was joe friday actually. but he says he admires vladimir putin. no, no, no. here is the deal, what is -- hillary knows as well as anyone dealing with putin as i have an it putin is determined to crack nato and alliance.european that is his overarching, overwhelming interest. i am heading from here, getting two kosovoand why in and then serbia and then the baltic states. you know one of the reasons i'm going is to make sure to reassure those members that we
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mean what we say. we mean what we say, the sacred alliances asked he years. because they are worried. he assures us russia will not move on ukraine. have artie moved on ukraine and occupied crimea. gotten so far as to ask putin and russia to conduct cyber attacks against the united states of america. joking, which he even if he is joking, what an outrageous thing to say. look folks, these are not isolated examples. he is even showered praise on saddam hussein, a man who repeatedly backed terror attacks
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against israel because he was so -- supposedly a killer of terrorists. liked saddam. stalin. have loved this says a lot about his approach. it explains why so often tactics of enemies themselves, religious intolerance, casting entire .ommunities as culpable torture when he knows it is illegal and says he would still on the military commanders if they would not obey his orders. when can you think of an ever in history where military commanders have said before a man or woman is elected that follow hisnot orders? threatening to kill innocent suspects.bers of indiscriminate bombing was what he calls for. that is how hoping anyone -- how
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anyone hoping to leave the greatest democracy in the world behave? calling for a ban on muslims in the united states. parentsng proud muslim of a gold star family. threatening to send american citizens to guantanamo? i will tell you, this guy is ok. trump's ideas are not only wrong, they are very dangerous and un-american. they reveal the profound ignorance of the constitution. for playing into the hands of the human standing for so long. it is a recipe for playing into terrorists and their propaganda. last year isis'top leader who we have been tracking since we got bin laden, hillary, john, the president, his name is albert
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.addy he said the goal is to compel crusaders to actively the gray zones themselves, meaning anywhere where christians and muslims zone.e called the gray muslims in the west, he says, will have to quickly find choices,s between two either apostates size or islamic eight,e escape prosecution. how does he make the case? by pointing out no muslim is welcome in the west. isis once to manufacture a class of civilizations between us and them. them is trying to give exactly what they want. stood in front of a crowd in florida and said president obama founded a terrorist organization for isis.
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now look, that is an outrageous , but let me tell you why it is a dangerous statement. why as he might say the bad guys are listening. yesterday the head of hezbollah, iran'srist organization, top terrorist circuit and direct allies repeated trump's claim in the entire world and around the world that president obama founded isis. exactly what the leader of hezbollah said referring to accusation. spokesman for hezbollah.
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this is not a simple speech referring to trump. this is an american presidential candidate. he, meaning trump, has the data and documents to back it up. if my son were still in iraq, and i say to all those that are there, the threat to their life has gone up a couple of clicks. some in turkey are accusing us of being a part of the coup attempt. ladies and gentlemen, does he have any ideas at first these outlandish comments have on the physical troops? i am
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testing your stamina. so let me go to the end here. [applause] hillary has forgotten more about american foreign policies and entire team will ever understand. gentlemen hillary has, she has been herve been in the room with as we join with the president's leadership. sent some of these killers to hell at our weekly
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breakfast on the international stage. admirestrong, respected, -- admired. there is nothing that she does understand about america's place in the world. ladies and gentlemen, because she knows one thing, that donald know, it hast never been a good bet to bet united states of america. give it a fair shot. give it a fair chance. americans have never let their country down. never. ladies and gentlemen -- ladies allow,tlemen, we never we never bend, we never kneel, own the yield, we finish line. she gets it. [applause]
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we are second to none. hillary clinton is going to write the next chapter in american history. ♪
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>> there you saw it, vice president joe biden in his hometown of scranton, but when you. -- pennsylvania. timefor your reaction will for your reaction. if so, what do you think you ? you for listening to michael. i had a couple comments about clinton. i don't know why she took the same ideas hillary clinton has touting -- donald trump has been touting for years. where has she been the past 25 years after she talks about , dams, bridges, roads and renegotiating free-trade. childcarealked about
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credits, which is about trump has been talking about. she makes it sound like it is her idea. trump isnderstand why not saying something back. i listened to vice president biden speaking and saying i have presidentsr these for five years, and it went from 50 trillion to $500 billion with country alone. , ohio, is a rest felt. there is not the kind of jobs. alone hasture exports from 5 billion to $20 billion in furniture manufacturing. we are going to move on. ohiod trump in youngstown,
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, at this hour about to give a terrorism.s and foreign-policy speech is what it is being billed as. we have coverage of that on our network, c-span2. going to new york. a line for democrats. this comes from the book of daniel. i really enjoy both of our speakers, mrs. clinton and vice president biden. i want to say i appreciate that she will be something about the for childcare. recently i read something where someone was fired because they needed to take an emergency leave. sad that if you have
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,n emergency with your child's a lot of people have children or if you have some kind of illness that instead of giving the person a couple of weeks to or take care of that means, that you have to fire them. that is not the american way. americans, most of us, were up on-- brought compassion. empathy. word is what if that were i? what would i expect from the i had anson if emergency not just with my child, but any other family member? the other thing i wanted to say, vice president biden and mrs. out we arents and every day people even though they are in the position of government.
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but they are still public servants. they are there to serve. we appreciate the call. thank you very much. enjoy the rest of your day. is with us now from chicago. caller: the reason i called is listening to president biden me why he was picked in the first place. we are lacking in this campaign. we are lacking a statesman. that is why i am an independent. >> does that mean you will vote
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for mrs. clinton in the fall? i will. host: a quick reminder, we are for donald waiting trump's foreign-policy address to get started scheduled at 2:00. we will bring you later this evening here on c-span, hillary remarks as well as the remarks from donald trump. eventsee now the trunk just getting underway. archibald,o pennsylvania. it is about 10 minutes northeast of scranton. what i saw, this is what james comey said about hillary clinton that she was reckless, careless irresponsible with her e-mails. is how the wii will be asked president. lying under oath. lying to the families of benghazi. someone we can trust.
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she is the one that puts this country in danger, not donald trump. thank you for your call. mrs. robinson. are you there? caller: hello. i am boston born and bred. i was brought up with a welfare finger -- single mother in the 50's. as far as blaming and giving credit to the republican side and democrat side, they have both brought positive and negative. lifetime i have seen a in the white house, which that was very thrilling. woman.ant to see a
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people oute are some there that are not saying they don't care who it is, they don't want to see a woman. no one is saying that. i am an advocate at the statehouse in boston. i like always sticking up for the hungry, the poor, and the homeless. and i want to see those, if anything, all those programs that exist, get stronger. host: we appreciate the call for .assachusetts president obama slated to head a democratic fund-raising dinner tonight on martha's vineyard. he is therefore a two-week wife, theith his first lady and their daughters. karen calling for massachusetts. she is calling on the line for
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others. did you watch the speech with mrs. clinton and vice president biden, and what do you think? yes, i did. it is amazing. we are neighbors. i was very, very pleased. all i want to say is president obama spoke about the audacity hope. that is what we are not hearing side, mr.m the other .rump he is working with fear, anger, violence. live in a world that has hope. host: i noticed that you called on the line for others. does that mean you are registered with one side or the other? who did you vote for in 2012? caller: mr. obama. who are you voting for
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this time? mrs. clinton. i see the hope that she gives us. perfect, no one is perfect. she is certainly the best of the choices we have right now. we do have time for more calls. hillary clinton and the vice president as they are surrounded agents.ecret service people taking selfies with the candidate. joe on the line for republicans. caller: i am checking here, and i was watching this speech. hand, there is the that looked just like the , the one thatdo his father was there. the same character as in this picture here. about trump and
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, i haved hillary watched these democrats for years now. the place has gone down tremendously. you havehave more is to have promises. you have to have people that will do things, that will get angst done. he knows what he is doing. he has some idea of what is going on. we do not have to watch for e-mails and lying like she has done. joe biden, he is from pennsylvania. i am from pennsylvania, 2, 40 some years ago. from illinois. i am from a part of is nothing democrats here, too.
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what have they promised us? they have promised us nothing. they have given us the most murders. now we have the same thing in milwaukee. people,taken a group of underclass, and feeding the money, funds, everything else. slavery.alking about we have the form of slavery right now. we have -- going to move on. you made your point. thank you. where is that? western pennsylvania, about 20 miles outside of pittsburgh. i just want to say i think misse are really going to president obama, because nobody
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gets him credit for getting saddam hussein and bin laden. we are right outside shing still 9/11. happened, i knew president bush and dick cheney, were the culprits letting all this happen on activity. now they're blaming all of this on obama. i want to say to the man who has said pennsylvania has found him. no way. latrobe, pennsylvania, and find out. we are hard-working community, we deserve better than what donald trump will be giving the people. >> going to canton, ohio.
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this is one meter. trump because i think he is very intelligent. i think he can guide the country to where it needs to be because the country is not in good shape. all i have to thank you for your call. in texas.ohn on our line for independents. about allwant to talk of them. calling -- the law says i am in serious trouble. on the side of each pack of it states it sows -- serves no other purpose in the
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world and to cause you harm and that. 1964, the same cannot on national television. as democrats of 20 million graveyard in the that gotur government the money off of it. now while we are talking about someone else is going to the hospital system. our government is terrorist. we are going to move on. thank you for that. pennsylvania, your thank you.aller: this is robert. i thinkant to say president obama is the best president of country has ever honest. the most hillary is doing a great job, and she will do even better if she doesn't have to trump.thing about donald phony heow what a
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really is. i wish her the best luck, and i hope she is our next president. thank you for the call. you can see hillary clinton and vice president biden mixing with the crowd in pennsylvania. all for you this on c-span.n the remarks donald trump is making this afternoon on the subject of one policy. that event going on right now. introductions being made by giuliani.iani -- rudy taking more of your calls. less in victoria, texas. on c-span. i am calling it 100% for trump. been a tremendous hilton -- toyork
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new york. grading john sullivan the country. hillary clinton has not created a job for anyone except for cronies and the clinton foundation. return she made $10 million. they are taking in billions and of dollars. ,hey are only giving 10% back unlike the red cross or something like that that donates 80% of the money to charity. you know, i have an uncle that irs, the lead investigator. he has told me over the years hell ony were guilty as whitewater.
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they just could not pin it down. the whole thing is where there is smoke, there is fire. there is more smoke around clinton than a california wildfire. the way they are running the department. they are running this government like the ocean. ridiculous. caught many was times. we kind of get your point here. going to get a couple more calls all we can. you can join us on twitter or face book. john in williamstown, new jersey. independents. say if i just wanted to has $9 billion, why don't stimulate the in economy by solar energy? host: i'm going to let you have the last call. if trump has $9 billion,
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why doesn't he stimulate the economy by starting wind, solar? take some of the money and put it all in the states. say like $5 million apiece. host: we appreciate you wrapping this afternoon. 17 minutes or so of your reaction to mrs. clinton and president biden. $9 billion, why doesn't he stimulate the economy by starting wind, solar? take some of the money and put on c-span2, mike pence, the republican presidential nominee -- vice president nominee. we will have both of these you tonight at 8:00 on tonight, the communicators visits middle east broadcasting networks. fran myers, producer.
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michigan in the eastern part of the state. the city sits at the juncture of the st. clair river and lake bridgend the blue water serves as one of the busiest crossing points between the u.s. and canada. comcast help of our partners, over the next 60 travel aroundl the city of 60,000 to talk with about the history of the area, including the steam history. >> this was constructed near niagara falls. betweensel ran aboutock and detroit for three years before it was wrecked. that was the beginning of the .teamboat age it did not travel very fast, but reliably.d >> later, we will visit the thomas edison museum to learn about the importance of the
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railroad in the region. >> when the railroad first came county most of the like on -- life was centered on the lake. >> first, we talk with the former executive editor of the huron times herald about city's history, challenges today, and the state of the newspaper business. quest i reported on michigan -- >> i reported on lake michigan. there was a strike that connects like huron and lake erie. is -- recover water. this community.
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.ater is a significant issue i am kind of a nomadic journalist. we have lived in florida and georgia. i work for while in kentucky. and in michigan. around a lot for many years. one thing we did is to take a dip in the local history. know where you are how to know where you're going if you do not know where you have been? i took an interest in local history. frankly, i was surprised how rich the history is in this community. maybe i should not have been. there is a great shipping industry. for 20 years after the civil war, it was the second leading immigration in the city, after new york city. hundreds of thousands of
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americans can trace their roots to people who came across the border here. be? because they could get cheap fares through railroad and then two points west. there was a reason for it. it was kind of a crossroads through 19th and early as -- early 20th century. that rich history is fascinating to me. i think it is part of the most important part of the story has been what has happened to the economy in the state of michigan. if youeconomy in the state of michigan. thriving really economy, not just statewide but locally, we have done really well. in 2000 if you go by household income michigan is one of the 15 wealthiest states. by 2008, one of the 15 poorest states. a profound change.
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economy, not just statewide but locally, we have done really well. a profound change. why that should be the question for economists and scholars and politicians but the effect it had on the people has been devastating. the poverty rate was 25%, the unemployment rate was in the 30's. really devastating, population, things were turning around and resilient community, and a difficult period of time for the state of michigan. there are 4 5 pages of foreclosures, didn't go on for a week or month but month after month after month or four or five years, property plummeted, you are lucky if it is worth $25,000. they provide services to cut the
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workforce, and it is affected by the county, on a manufacturing basis, literally disappeared in a few years. it didn't disappear, but greatly diminished. the most interesting thing about this community, it is 170,000 people, the 12th largest county in michigan. while in office and harry truman came here on the honeymoon, we had several presidents, no sitting president has ever come to this town. they were coming to detroit, marine one, a 5 minute drive from the county line but for whatever reason they always go to in some other direction. we are out of the mainstream. not considerably important enough to either party that they were not presidential to come and campaign.
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why should it be that way? used to joke the presidential election counting on going to the democrat in any year that ended in 64. and barack obama carried it on the first go, george bush barely beat out gore, it is a 50/50 basis. the county itself is the -- i don't know that we have become more democratic but we do consider democrats. still a very republican area. michigan is a democratic state, a blue state, and in the presidential politics, hillary clinton can fully expect to win. president obama won it. once you get into the
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countryside, it -- suburban areas tend to get more republican. the departments have complete control of the state. in the legislature have a supermajority, democrats can't block them. the supreme court is nonpartisan but the state supreme court, and the republicans control the levers of power. when you get outside the detroit and flint, you get more republican so the geographical areas for republicans, they make stronger districts. this is where flint, detroit got their water. when detroit was growing, they needed a dependable source of water. there was a time in the cold war where they were getting their water from lake sinclair. it seems kind of funny now but it wasn't at all in the 60's that the soviet union would drop an atomic bomb onto the lake and vaporize that lake and detroit
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would be left without waters of detroit. when you get outside the detroit and flint, you get more republican so the geographical areas for republicans, they make stronger districts. this is where flint, detroit got their water. when detroit was growing, they needed a dependable source of water. there was a time in the cold war where they were getting their water from lake sinclair. it seems kind of funny now but it wasn't at all in the 60's that the soviet union would drop an atomic bomb onto the lake and vaporize that lake and detroit would be left without waters of detroit.
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they would put water intake out in the lake in a 7 mile tunnel, i forget how deep, 200 feet deep to this water intake. it is just north of the city. the tunnel exploded, killed 20 some minors. the worst industrial accident in history of lower michigan. detroit built a water main. you can think of a basketball rim. it is that high, that is where the water goes, it goes to west out of lake huron towards flint but the next county west of here, it is a split and half of the pipe or part of the pipe pumping station is in south to the northern suburbs and the other is flint.
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in 2009 flint goes with another water line that is exactly 6 miles north of this water line, and duplicating water line, i thought it was crazy and i wrote in 2009 that this is insane. they are going to spend $1 billion, which is what they were estimating back then, to duplicate something that already exists. why are we doing it? the reason we are doing it is -- detroit didn't grow the way we thought. it has never been used to have of capacity. but the water is treated on the lakeshore, going to flint, detroit, claimed good water out of lake huron, it is good water
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and they are duplicating it and the reason they are gouging them on the price. you would think somebody in michigan is the adult in the room, that some governor -- water is not regulated by the public service commission, they regulate electricity, the fairy , but don't regulate water so detroit probably was gouging flint. somebody should have said stop it but they didn't and flint says we are going to spend hundreds of millions to duplicate an existing water line so we don't have to be held hostage by you any longer. that is the original sin. if that doesn't happen none of the rest of this happens. the flint people aren't drinking the water out of the river, children are not being poisoned by led. the governor of michigan is made to go down in history as a buffoon is what it looks like.
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all that happens because of this decision. there was nobody in a position of power in michigan, no adult in the room to say it is crazy. we have so many things we need to be doing in this state, why would we spend $1 billion to duplicate what exists? i never heard a good answer for that. they will tell you things, they have their rationalizations, the fact of the matter is a perfectly good water line could be serving flint for another 50 years if they just maintain it. everybody knows newspapers are in trouble. what goes around comes around.
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if you go to the 19th century in this county, most of america, every town had a newspaper. publishers who go into why they have a handcranked printing press on their wagon they , settled in a little town, start a newspaper, making some money, stay put, if they were not making money they would move on. a lot of smaller towns had two papers, republican paper and the democratic paper but there were lots of community papers. we are talking about until after the civil war. we had two german populations, two german language newspapers in this town and a dozen newspapers at one time or another so what happens is the press comes in. the average guy can't afford to be in the news business anymore, you have to be a multimillionaire.
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and you can no longer start a newspaper and start any chance of success. a full circle back with the internet's. the disadvantage, not totally a good thing, and one of the things you do sacrifice is if you have a smaller paper with 3, four, two reporters you can't do much in-depth reporting, you can't dig deep into a topic and here is what everybody says, i will talk to 20 people and here is what is happening, take a week or two, complete package, at least you will know what is going on. you can't do that when struggling to put out a paper with a skeleton staff. it is is got to figure out a business model, if we lose that. if our society loses that
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community newspapers do in-depth reporting we lost what is important whether you are republican, democrat, liberal conservative, we lost something vitally important if we lost that. >> c-span is visiting the city of port huron located next to the heart of the st. clair river where we meet up with arthur joel stone as he talks about the role the area played in a 19th century. >> at the turn of the last century the river behind us was , one of the busiest waterways in the world. the saint clair river and detroit river in 1907 constituted more tonnage than the port of london put together. this waterway was moving ships at an incredible place. some of them were the freight carriers, the bulk carriers we got and some were passenger ship carriers that were here. every one of them from detroit to cleveland or buffalo, the history of steamboats started
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100 years ago, in 1817, one by the canadians and one by the americans, that got the process rolling. that kind of got the process rolling. the following year a steamboat , was constructed in black rock, new york near niagara falls, that vessel ran from black rock or buffalo and detroit for 3 years before it was wrecked. that was the beginning of the steamboat age. people understood they didn't travel very fast but traveled reliably. if you were on a sailboat you had to wait for the wind. if you were on a sailboat working against the current like the one behind us was almost impossible unless the wind was travel very fast but traveled behind you. with the steamboat, you would get on the boat and the boat would reliably travel 6, 8, 10 knots and you were going if you
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could get there at a regular schedule. could get there at a regular people could finally rely on travel to get them where they want to be. with the opening of the erie canal in 1825, there was an influx, greater influx of immigrants coming in. soon after that, there was a railroad running next to the erie canal. all of a sudden, you have two reliable forms of transportation coming in. the railroad stopped in buffalo so once you got that far you had to find another way to get to detroit to catch the next train. trains ran across the bottom of michigan to chicago. the first trade reached their in 1852 and from there, you could get to the westward countries to where the farmland was. before the american civil war if you want to get to the second train, you had to get on a ship. the entrepreneurs who were running the vessels partnered with the railroad companies and the ship became an extension of
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the railroad. frankly, a much more beautiful extension of the railroad. if you were on a train, they were not as ornate as we think of trains now. they were not very comfortable, if you wanted to walk around you walked up and down the aisles but if you got on a steamer, one of these beautiful paddlewheel steamers, you were not only in beautiful ornate salons, you can walk around the decks, lots to view. the view up and down the rivers is gorgeous, it was a nicer, more comfortable way to travel. assuming you weren't in a storm or the boat didn't catch fire. while tourism has been an effective business in the great lakes basin since right after the war of 1812, tourism really picked up in the 1880's and 1890's. industries that established themselves, people had resources to take a sunday off and go for
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a short cruise or actually take a vacation. that didn't start until the 1880's or 1890's and business shifted to take them to destinations. in chicago to see the great exposition in 1893, all of a sudden the tourism business became an important part of this. much like the cruise ship industry is today so ships were designed for groups of people that would want to travel and that kind of started the palace second era. the first had taken place in the 1840's and 1850's, the second palace era started in 1880 and went through 1910. the second palace era was grander than the the boats were first. bigger, more elegant, some of the interiors of the salons, you
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thought you were walking into a versailles palace. they were spectacular. the furniture, everything lent itself to an elegant lifestyle. even middle-class people who traveled brought their best clothes. they went there to be seen and to see all the gorgeous people wandering these boats and enjoy being on the water. this is before air-conditioning. on a good, hot summer day, the best way to cool off was to get on a boat. sometimes you would travel on a fairly long excursion, a couple days, but in the detroit area we had island parks you would travel to. you get in a small steamer, travel for a couple hours from detroit to port huron and while you are doing that the boat is traveling 15 minutes an hour. you have this beautiful, cool
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breeze coming over. the men were probably more comfortable than the ladies. the ladies were in layers and layers of petticoats and that kind of thing. but certainly much better than hanging out in a hot city. steamboats were an affordable way to relax and enjoy the day. today, we still have passenger boats that mostly come from the ocean during the summer. they are also passenger ferries. if you go to beaver island and lake michigan, you get a four hour ride on a boat. there is across lake michigan the badger, the last coal-fired passenger carrying steamboat in the united states. if you want a great ride and
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experience steamboat, you can still do it today. i think people forget how important the great lakes was to developing the middle of america, the heartland of america. when railroads finally reached in there, prior to the 1920's when automobiles could get people into small towns, if you wanted to travel and travel comfortably, the best way to go was on a steamship. because of that, the business men who ran those firms innovated in order to draw people. the innovated in the luxury in their boats, they innovated making comfort something people could buy, innovated their engines, their advertising, they were many things tied up in the steamboat business and it was very important to the development of america as a whole and we forget that. the steamboat industry is lost to history. if we think about steamboats, very often, americans think about the beautiful steamboats on the mississippi river, which were essentially waning by the american civil war. they could think of the steamboats in his musical. they don't think about the
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beautiful coastal steamers on the east coast or the west coast but most particularly on the great lakes. it's here on the great lakes where much innovation happened. the largest paddle wheelers in the world were built on the great lakes. several of our vessels designed by people in the great lakes ended up working on the east coast. it was an important part of the development of steamships, particularly passenger vessels, and i think that is something that has been lost and i hope my book will bring it back to people. i hope they enjoy it. >> we are steps from the thomas edison depot museum. one of the places c-span will be visiting in port huron for the literary scene. inside, we will see local author and historian cj gas need.
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>> the real impetus for writing the book came out of my interest in the rail history of the region. up to that point there hadn't been a great deal written on it , especially when it comes to the interaction of the different railroads and growth in different communities in the region. the some region comprises five counties in this state. there is a little debate about that, but when the railroad first came into the county and into the region as a whole, most of the life was centered on the lake so the interior it self, if there were farms or early settlers there they were few and , far between. the first railroads into the region, particularly the one we
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are at now, the grand trunk when , it came up from detroit or made its connection here, economically it was tied to british interests even with the not-too-distant lee fought war of 1812 breaking away, it was actually british business interest that financed that railroad to the point where the depots that survived were built to a british design. you go to ontario and other areas where basic depot design was used in the region, was an extremely important one.
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the community with the grand trunk railway and later construction. clair river tunnel in the 1890's, not only continued immigration but it meant we were one of the first stops when it also fed many of the industries along the line that wouldn't have been here otherwise. places like that still exist, port huron, anchor, later on, auto light. all of those basically came to this region because of the connection with the railroad and the connection with the water. that double combo was unique for us. the fact you could pick one or two different things was a huge thing even to this day.
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for large industries, you need a railroad presence and their freights in an expedited manner. there were several indices in the region that worked with the railroad and also that the railroad employed a large facility, the original shops were located to the north of us after they burned, they were relocated into porter township and were completely reconstructed and rebuilt because of world war i. we are a very large employer in the community. at one point in time, close to
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3000 people worked there. and several other agencies in the railroad, the railroad car carriers of unique to our area that operated back and forth over different parts of time were heavy employers and at one point in time, we had probably a good third of the community that could have tied their employment and their well-being to employment with the railroad. the location we are shooting in, it's actually a historic car. it was restored at the car shops of the railway, just to the north of us here. and that car shop burned in 1913. so there's very few surviving examples of cars that were actually built there. it is primarily built of wood and it is of the type that would have been around the at the time that thomas edison had as a boy. he spent much of his formative
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years here and depot to the west of us was the depot that he worked out of as a boy. he spent the ages of roughly seven to 16 here. his early formative years were primarily spend here. edison's basic job description was he would walk around with a basket and had every in from fruit to small sandwiches and later on, his paper that he would sell. there was a separate village at a time tied to the military installation and he would then go ride the train down to detroit and hit all the stations along the way. he did have downtime in between and would very often go to the city library. if he had down time he was always constantly trying to learn some new and he definitely liked his routines. i think that started even in his youth.
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that downtime was something he cherished. he mentions it several times and the fact he was always kind of keeping and i and an ear out for what was going on around him i think really helped him move ahead. the rail known as the poly and was a nickname that was used for the pontiac, oxford, and port austin. it was north south of here that ran from -- to michigan. it was somewhat bucolic you could say. it ran through very small communities but that is what made it in gearing. a lot of the crews that worked the train were known by the station agents and known by the individuals. it took quite a while to get there, what would now probably take you less than four hours to drive would take almost 16 back then. they served every little industry and every little green elevator. it was an important route at one point in time and really. the interior of the region. the connection to everyday life,
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people just grew to understand it was going to be there and everyday things happened on the train. not too long a woman was coming across from chicago, she had been pregnant and basically begin to give birth of the train was going through the tunnel.
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the connections in everyday life, people grew to understand everyday things happen on the train. long after the tunnel was constructed, a woman was coming across from chicago, she had been pregnant and basically begin to give birth of the train was going through the tunnel. life was conceived somewhere underneath the river. there are stories about passengers bringing a collection together to get the mother and the child to the next location. there are several stories related to those types of things. the site we are at in the museum, you can't get away from looking above you.
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there are two very large steel and concrete structures. one built in 1938 and the other built 1984-85. their impact is pretty important . their connection with the railroad, they were the next extension, if you will, of the role that the railroad initially played. when the railroad built the tunnel in between, traffic increase greatly in the natural traffic flow lines that were created by the railroad were then eventually followed by the interstate and the need to be able to transport things easily, quickly and economically led to them, the construction of the two bridges. the general public when they look at the railroads today often see them in a negative. things blocking them on the way to the busy life and its
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schedule and what have you. the reality is, there are a place just as important a role today as they did back 100 years ago. large commodities are still shipped most easily by rail. there's been a lot of discussion recently about the impact of coal and his decline here recently. obviously that is have a great effect but the container movement, particularly the connection of shipping containers moving from places like china and indonesia and elsewhere, railroads are very much a part of that. when you go to long beach, california for there are large shop shipping -- shipping facilities, the railroads are large -- beside the container ships. they in turn work with semi trucks and trucking companies. they are still a very important and vital part of the transportation network.
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both here locally and throughout the country. there are several things when i was writing this book that came to light that made things interesting. the connection with the titanic. i would say just the overall personal connection between a lots of these smaller communities and the role the railroad played. i think it was the thing that even several years after i would say that impact has waned, the feeling of the individuals in those committees for those that work for the railroad and the role that the railroad played in the community is still very deep. part of the recent that so many of the pictures i have came to light was because they save those. i'm forever grateful and i thought it was part of my duty to make sure those survived as long as they could. it really helped in making the book a much larger and hopefully more interesting read.
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>> we are filming on the fourth floor of the minas of office center, or city hall.
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it is right on the st. clair river. probably the most eastern point of michigan. the city of port here on is a population of around 3000 people. which is a decrease. at one time many years ago, probably 50-60, it would've been closer to 40,000. as economic changes and industry changes, it has decreased over the years. demographically we probably have an assortment of all types of people. i would call it a little bit on the distressed side. we do have, because we are the county seat, we have a lot of
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the rentals and social services and things like that. we don't have a bit most stable population. it comes and goes. economically, probably not the highest income. it is a broad spectrum of lower tupper incomes. it is in that community live in. we have a whole lot of different things going on. the unemployment rate in michigan is higher than the country and higher in this area. it has gone down. but it is not come down at the same, we are always a little higher than the rest of the county and rest of the state. and of course the country because michigan is traditionally higher. we have had a lot of improvements over the last couple of years. everybody suffered in 2008 when the economy tanked and we are all crawling out of that. i think it takes a little longer for us to crawl out of it. we have some wonderful things happening right here. i am proud of that. right other in the downtown area, and love the downtowns
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have failed, the malls are not doing so well. our downtown is really revitalize. we have a lot of new businesses downtown. a lot of new restaurants and bars and quaint stores. no big department stores or anything like that. we are getting more loft apartments, something i would not have said years ago would happen but it has been a surge. we have so many that they have waiting lists and two separate contractors building more downtown. that is good because in those lost it is mostly younger professionals and that is what you are looking for to get the younger people to come back here and the child to come back here. that is what we have been working on. it does seem to be successful. were a bind me -- right honey, a
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wonderful piece of property which is the ymca. it was sold to the city a few years ago and demolished and the property was made development ready. we have sold that piece of property to a developer. they will put high-rise condos there. they not decided on the exact plan yet, we are still the plan. they should be started by the first of the year at the latest. probably at least 4-5 stories high. as bring a lot of people into town also. looking for redeveloping ourselves and reinventing ourselves as marketplace to come if you are younger and if you're looking for retirement and getting people to live in the downtown area has been very much a part of that. i think one of the key parts of our history, we're celebrating and have celebrated in 2007 our centennial.
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i don't think there's anyone particular story, but i'm proud of the lighthouse and the fact that people can visit and walk up to the top and look out. it was certainly back in the day, you had shipping around this area and logging and things like that. obviously not today but it is a strong part of our heritage. the bridge connects us with ontario. that was built in 1938. before that you had to take a ferry if you're going across. that is a cumbersome way to travel back and forth. the amount of commerce to get from canada to the united states is astronomical. a lot of it goes through port huron and a lot of people come
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from canada to port huron to shop. it is a big part of the success of the businesses in the area. it is very important for commerce that they have this bridge. that lasted until the 90's and in 1997, they opened the second part of the bridge. you can still, they are packed both sides going back and forth. truck traffic is sometimes all the way across the bridge. you can tell that it is very much doing his job for the commerce. in the future port huron is only going to get better. i really do feel and see a lot of interest. a lot of interest from investors from the other side of the state. that is one of the reasons we ended with the refurbishment of what used to be the thomas edison and is now a doubletree. and restaurant combined. that was an investor from the west side of the state.
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the hotel going downtown, investor from the west side of the state. i think we're getting more notice from other places. a lot of times people didn't know where it was and just post a small little town by the bridge. when you drive there. -- you drive through. we are getting a better reputation that it is worth coming here. worth seeing our parks and beaches and what history we have and the people are friendly and we have nice places to go. i think we're going to have a resurgence even more than we have now of our downtown and other businesses coming in and investing in the community. i'm looking forward to good things happening. >> welcome to the city of port huron, michigan. book tv is visiting the city to learn a little bit more about it nonfiction literary culture. i'll next, we will visit st. clair county library where we will hear from the director about how the public library system works in michigan. >> we are currently standing in the main floor of the main branch of the sinclair county library system.
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the main branch of the library system is located in port huron which is the county seat of sinclair county. we have a nice group of libraries that are countywide. we have 11 branches. this branch, the main branch, functions as the community help -- hub and the support service of the other branches in the county. we are close to the st. clair river and lake huron and the bluewater bridges. we have a wonderful opportunity by being in the downtown area and the county government campus and we see quite a few patrons who came to the library. we see 600 to 800 people a day. as you can see behind me, we are fairly busy on a regular basis. this building was built in the
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early 1860's after the sinclair county library system merged with the port huron library. we took on the function of public library service for the county as well as for the city of port huron. we moved from the original building and this building was a little bit larger and more modern. we are public library so we try to meet as many interests as we can. understanding you can't meet everyone's interest. one of the nice things about the public library system is that we share resources with our branches. we also share resources across the state. if there is an item that a patron is looking for and we do not have it, we can request that from another library within the state. we can also requested from a
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library outside of the state. what we hold here in the library is general interest topics, entertainment, reading, magazines, we also have fiction of all kinds of genres. nonfiction on many different topics. we also have a historical collection that we house in the michigan room where we had a lot of folks come in and to the genealogical research. the material is very interesting and one of the things that we are working on doing now is taking the material and digitizing it so we can make it available to a broader audience. our library system offers easily over 2000 programs a year. systemwide. we have everything from the clubs which are pretty traditional to clubs that might have to play mah jong and we have teams that come in and learn how to knit and other games. those are the untraditional
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gantry we also have computer classes for patrons. we're the only community center that offers free basic computer classes and we have been doing this for over 15 years. we thought we would work ourselves out of a job but the community really loves their computer classes. we offer programs on literacy. over programs have an element of literacy. a team program or eight children's program, they are computer classes. doing things that reinforce things they are learning in school or things that the kids need to learn in order to be ready for school. in our thought program, we offer an opportunity to discuss topics of import whether that is both
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topics, whether that is community event topics or situations that are happening, those folks can get together and that is what i've really seen this liber becoming is more of an opportunity to create and contribute to the community. we're no longer look at ourselves as a warehouse for books and hope that people come and want to continue to read print material. we do on a tradition and we do still -- honor that tradition and we do still collect print materials and we want people to see is as a place where they can come and enjoy spending time with one another, meeting new


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