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"fracture." winston center for african , presidentudies emeritus of bennett college for women. christopher murray, author of "stand your ground." and authorerim dean of "ghosts of jim crow." watch live tuesday at 7:00 p.m. eastern on c-span two. >> on tuesday, civil rights activist called on president and mail fraud conviction. marcus garvey is famous for his forosophy advocating
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african-americans to return to africa. the petition was filed in june. this is one hour and 30 minutes. >> i would like to welcome everyone this afternoon to this historic and is precious occasion. the petition for the pardon of the honorable marcus garvey. >> i am a social justice and
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human rights lawyer here in the washington, d.c., area. we have a very dynamic panel for us this afternoon. we are going to talk about the legal issues of the case, the historical issues, the impact of marcus garvey and the worldwide diaspora and many other aspects as well. i'm going to start off with reading a statement. congresswoman yvette d clark representing a new york congressional district. this is her statement that she wanted to have read at the marcus harvey press conference
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august 17, 2016. marcus garvey lives in history as one of the first readers of the american civil rights movement. to unite people toward a common goal of social progress. marcus garvey founded the universal negro improvement association and african communities lake, which at one time hit nearly 6 million members in 40 countries. in 1923, marcus garvey was unjustly convicted of mail fraud and deported from the united states, despite having his sentence commuted from former president coolidge. for most 30-year's efforts have been made to exonerate marcus garvey. the family started this crusade in july 1987 when one of the most senior members of the congressional black caucus held a hearing in the judiciary committee on the conviction. the hearing coincided with the resolution submitted by another senior member, the honorable charles wrangle. asserted that marcus garvey was innocent of the charges brought against him. number two, marcus garvey is and should be recognized internationally as a leader in
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-- and thinker for the struggle for human rights. and the president should take appropriate measures to clear marcus garvey's name. historians including tony martin at grassley lee, and rupert lewis has published materials detailing in depth how garvey was wrongfully convicted. law professor just and hezbollah, who we are honored to have with this is afternoon, in his work published in the georgetown journal of modern turn -- modern race perspective, provided an in-depth historical legal review, which was further bolstered by the legal brief we have submitted to the united states legal department of justice in the white house counsel this summer. here today.ves are professor charles ogletree of harvard university law school and the garvey family.
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we are so very honored to have representing here dr. julius garvey. the youngest son of marcus garvey. during the proceedings, 30 years since the congressional hearing garvey has been honored internationally as a leader and thinker in the field of human rights. the organization of american states has designated a hall in its main building. marcus garvey hall. additionally, garvey has been named as the first national hero. recognition of marcus garvey's lifelong contribution to society. marcus garvey should be exonerated. by way of a posthumous pardon.
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president obama should take appropriate measures to clear marcus garvey's name. showing it is never too late to write a wrong. right a wrong. it is time to exonerate marcus garvey, and let history reflect the true nature of his legacy. god bless the united states of america, god bless jamaica, and god bless the memory of marcus garvey, one love that honorable pp the -- one. love. clark,orable yvette d. representing new york's ninth congressional district. i would also like to acknowledge this happens to be the birthday of marcus garvey, august 17. we are very honored and appropriate to announce this historic announcement today. we will start off our
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illustrious panel with remarks from howard university associate professor of the african diaspora in history and at howard professor swan that , will give us perspective regarding marcus garvey. professor swan. >> good afternoon. it is truly an honor to be here and be a part of this really important, illustrious event. marcus garvey's legacy is still being explored and understood in really important ways. it is hard to speak of garvey in 10 minutes, but to speak of garvey is to speak of the black world in the 1920's. to speak of garvey is to's week about black africa that extend for 19th century. to speak about garvey is to talk
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about black resistance. to speak of garvey is to's week of black thoughts of black men and women that transfers into the 20th century. garvey's genius was his ability to build the world's most expensive black movement, the likes we have never seen since. the negro word, for example, this amazing document in news timber that is not only written in english, but also french and spanish traveled across the world. this speaks to the assault of garvey. speaking about black unity. forking about the need black people, like other populations of the world that have a right to self-determination. the right of colonized peoples to have freedom. this is what garvey was speaking about. it was an amazing organization, one of the reasons because it was family-based. it had a juvenile wing.
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very family organization that spread across the world not just , the united states. cuba has the most branches. within america, it is seen as new york-based african-american idea. louisiana actually have the most chapters. garvey even reached africa. you see a chapter formed in southern africa and being attacked and the apartheid-like regimes. right now in zimbabwe. he reached australia in 1920. aborigine historians. very much on the lines of of the organization. the unia. this must be mentioned, as well as the other numbers that were
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affected. they had their passports are revoked. visas denied. the organization became an organization that these tactics of denial were practiced on. first black the performer was used to infiltrate. they were out of bounds. but not unexpected. he covers the garvey movement had this phenomenal ability to your denies black ideas. -- to galvanize black ideas. to speak about why he was so powerful. the organization of progressive onenizations took the motto
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aim, one destiny, which we know now is garvey. through garvey we see people colonizing around the attacks in ethiopia and italy in the 1930's. when we heard the words of bob marley, emancipate yourself. that is a straight quote from marcus garvey whose legacy has been ever-present. garvey has fueled so many other organizations from the nation of islam. people transformed by the process. --still have garvey eight garveyites in many places. now is the time to write the wrong.
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i think this is really important, not just for the historical dynamic for how i look at garvey but a way to right the wrongs. scholarship. reemergence of garvey scholars that understand the impact of garvey across the world. clearly a testament to the fact that this is the movement of legitimized struggle that should be seen as such. a multitude of books, scholars winning prestigious awards for garvey. we should also address some of the same issues from a legal perspective. [applause] >> thank you so very much. the next person i will bring up is someone who was named as the top 40 lawyers under the age of 40 by the national bar association. someone named as one of the 25 new leaders of social justice. we are talking about professor justin hansford, a professor of st. louis university law school who lives just 10 minutes from
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where michael brown was shot down in the streets by law enforcement. in ferguson, missouri. he is one of the foremost leaders and thinkers dealing with social justice issues today. that wasreview article -- justin hansford and dr. lewis garvey. so with that, i would like to bring professor hansford up to talk a little bit about the legal case, and possibly introduce this as well. thank you. professor justin hansford: good afternoon. i want to begin by reading you
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an excerpt from the legal case against marcus garvey, an opinion authored by the second court of appeals in 1925. it may be true garvey fancied himself if not a messiah, that he deemed himself a man with a message that he was going to deliver, and he was going to have ships that would take his people out of bondage. but even with this assumed, it remains that if it is gospel in part involves exhortation to buy worthless stocks, accompanied by deceivingly false statements as to the words thereof, he was
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guilty of a scheme or artifice. we need not delay to examine in detail to examine the fraud scheme exhibited by practically uncontradicted evidence. appeal through the ambition, emotions or race consciousness of men of color, it was a simple and familiar device of which the object, as of so many others was to ascertain how it could best unload capital stock at the largest possible price. at this bar, there is no attempt to justify this going -- selling scheme practice improvement. it was wholly without morale it -- only without morality or legality.
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that is the statement by the united states court of appeals for the second circuit. this judicial opinion has reverberated throughout history unto today. it illustrates how a court and a judge and the legal process can construct a narrative that can suppress, that can oppress, and devalue voices for justice. ultimately the unjust trial of marcus garvey and the conviction in deportation that followed was an attempt to silence and suppress his movement for racial justice. we come here almost 90 years later to show our resistance still indoors, despite the efforts that were made to suppress our defense. we continue to fight to restore the legacies and ideas of marcus garvey. because he was the leader of the largest racial justice movement we have ever seen in the course of the african diaspora's history. so history matters. in despite of marcus garvey's great accomplishments, if i were to ask a random person, who was
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marcus garvey? maybe they would say, wasn't it guy?"back to africa" his legacy has been suppressed, his legacy has been narrowed, and his legacy is so much larger and greater. he was not just a civil rights leader, he was a political philosopher, human rights trailblazer. his slogan both at home and abroad was inspiration for the decolonization movement that resulted in the decolonization of african movements, in addition to the caribbean. he was someone admired by martin luther king, nelson mandela, and malcolm x. but sadly, his legacy has been tarnished, degraded and banished from the american narrative. in large part due to the legal opinion that you just heard and the criminal justice system that
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affected his unjust conviction. the conviction was not just painful for his family, but for his followers. it has made all of our lives less rich. it has robbed us of an important part of our history. so i myself never heard the name marcus garvey until i was 15 years old and reading my favorite look, the autobiography of malcolm x, a book that changed my life. i found that marcus hervey was someone that malcolm x father had worked with. i went to research, who is this guy? i went to a local public library to find information, because of the public school where i was there was no book on marcus garvey.
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i read a book called "black moses" by david cronin. it was seen as a balance treatment of marcus garvey and his movement and presented garvey as a well-meaning dreamer who was a buffoon, who was to ostentatious for his own good and this led to his ultimate demise. so is this an accurate telling of the garvey story? if not, why is that the legacy that has been passed down to us 90 years later? the silencing of garvey does not come from a relevant. in my short career i have had the opportunity to travel to the caribbean, africa, other parts of the world. i was able to do the same thing marcus garvey did 100 years earlier, which is wherever you go in europe and the united states, wherever there are black people, they are at the bottom of the social ladder. what garvey did was to open our eyes to the fact that this does
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not have to be so. this is not something that was written in stone. his message rings true a century after he first delivers it. since the message is still relevant, how come we don't know about it? i think the answer is provided in the legal brief that i wrote. and it wasothers signed by dr. julius garvey. the answer, i think will shop, disappoint, and greatly disappoint many of the readers. we submitted it to the department of justice into the white house, and i think it will shock, disappoint, and surprise many of them.
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what it reveals is that marcus garvey's message was deliberately and intentionally silenced, and the law was just a tool that was used by j edgar hoover and other people who were interested in seeing garvey's message supressed. president obama has an opportunity to write this wrong. why is this the time to make things right? we outlined three reasons in the legal brief. first of all, this is not the first time the president has given a posthumous pardon to someone who has passed away. both president clinton and president bush have given posthumous pardons in the last years of their administration. clinton 1999 and president bush 2008. these are definitely legal, and
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definitely president for doing so. secondly, marcus garvey is innocent. we have proven that beyond a reasonable shadow of a doubt. the united states congress held a hearing in 1987 in the house judiciary committee chair by john conyers where they afford in-depth all of the evidence. they look at historical evidence presented by historians like tony martin. they conclude he was innocent back in 1987. there have been dozens of books. currently his bust is in the hall of state. his face is on the currency of jamaica's currency. marcus garvey is innocent and people around the world have recognized it. even our own united states government has recognized it. finally, why is this right time to exonerate marcus garvey? the reality is, there has never been a better time to do so. i believe we are at a turning
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point in the racial justice history. we are at a time where we are trying to confirm perhaps for the first time ever that black lives do matter, and this is part of the process. one of my favorite historians, vincent harding, has articulated there is a river to the black freedom struggle. to those of us that feel we are a part of the freedom struggle, it is part of our responsibility to make sure we continue -- that we hand that legacy down to those that will follow us, which includes the memory of the great ones that have gone before us and i'm happy to be a part of
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this process and look forward to hearing your questions. thank you. [applause] >> thank you very much. i am so very honored to bring to the podium the ambassador, the eldest daughter of malcolm x and dr. betty shabazz. she is an author, ambassador, motivational speaker. she was six years old when her father was assassinated. as so many people whose ancestry came from the caribbean as mine did as well, her grandpa -- grandparents were crusaders for
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\grandparents were crusaders for the universal negro -- improvement association. at this point, give a welcome -- warm welcome to ambassador shabazz. [applause] ambassador shabazz: we are going to have to update wikipedia, because i am no actress. they take away your intellectual power by putting in something else, and somehow that has more life than it. i have someone's piece here so i can read the letters that came to you earlier. i ask you in advance to pardon me because as i shared over breakfast, i have dyslexia. first, i would like to say greetings to this distinguished assembly of people who found it significant to be here. there were many others who i heard from, hundreds of. they were moved to know this was happening at all. i say that what does not take
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place today, that we continue however the results are. what turns and moves and stirs has to have validity for ever after, no matter what, so that it's not in our lifetime, we cannot let it rest. to honor ourselves, so whatever structure systems in place. i, too, am a child in which j edgar hoover surrounded and some of us around here. and because of memory being so short, people do not know what we look like, what we walk like, what the inside our systems feel like. the keloids that are there. just because we have a passive coexistence we have a political correctness. that you can actually tell truths. you can update history and not offend.
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you can assure it is up to us to do that. whether this presidential pardon takes place or not, we have to make sure our voice is defined in a matter what. no matter what. guest: caller: marcus garvey 129th birthday. yesterday was dr. julius garvey's birthday. i will not say how many years. >> i no longer have birthdays. i am here in a matter of hours just returning a broad, because there was no other place for me to be. standing here
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we do get there. even if it is after. thatresence, our capacity, which soars rains about us. we whisper for some reason because it seems to be more allow our we cannot loyalties to be tempered. we're speaking about marcus garvey 90 years after his passing. it means there is something in the air, something in the spirit, the voice, generations later where the magnificence of that time, the value of the ds product, the plantations that hound. those nurturing lullabies that assured our freedom would be what it is, that we would have continued messages to pass on to our children. a backbone of strength to examine for our children. but we have got to talk about it
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so that young kids do not have to advocate black lives matter. the dots.onnect not feel helpless or hopeless. so they do not have to say it over and over again to convince someone that lack lives matter. to speak up. we have to connect the dots so that the 30-year-olds and under do not have to fight the fight alone. i am the grandmother of that age. and, i am the tete-a-tete. there is a siphoning that takes place. takes place.g that this kind of thing that churns the spirit. that spurs us on. that make sure that i as a julius sister of dr. garvey, does not walk on the earth without feeling the accompaniment of somebody advocating on the validity of his father. that goes for the nameless
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fathers and mothers who go before us. we do not always know their names but we do have to speak up for who we are. and we do not have to be mad about it. we can be bad about it. that is who we are. truth does not always mean antagonistic. it just means it is. into so i would like to knowledge all of the friends who might be in earshot and beyond and colleagues who were moved and who we will probably hear from later. with billence cummings which i will pass to you so you will get to understand the people who believed your father and mother mattered. danny glover who is in canada. trying to figure out, howdy do that? i said, you will have another
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chance. someone else changed a schedule. we went back and forth and i am thankful that she indeed came. i would like to read to you one of the many letters. went -- thistters is where the forgiveness of dyslexia comes in. >> is with great pride and pleasure that i write this letter in my personal capacity as a former or current member of acp.oard of the end of all the rainbow coalition and the republic of new africa. i request the honorable marcus arvey be bestowed presidential pardon posthumously based on the unjust treatment he received from j edgar hoover. the work of marcus garvey was a major influence in my journey from jail to judge and like millions of others, disenfranchised pac-man, he gave
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me a sense of pride and commitment to fight against the destructive can -- the existence and my community. if you can validate his work to organize it millions and our community to focus inward in concert with the social justice support of the most oppressed people of history. i am certain it will continue to inspire millions of troubled african american youth to transform both themselves and the communities around them with great respect and regard. received, it is an honor for me to join with so many in the world to give support for this important initiative. marcus garvey was a jamaican hero and a caribbean man who played a pivotal role making sure black men all over the world can unite.
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as we continue to see struggles for basic human rights in many countries, such as the united states, it is important we do not take these rights for granted. we must continue to promote and marcusedged the work of garvey so future generations can have a better understanding of the struggle of the past and the importance for us to unite. marcus garvey visited grenada was evident during our emancipation celebration that many were inspired by his work through his son, dr. julius garvey and they wanted to know more and more about him. the teachings of marcus garvey will continue to live on. ministeres, from the of cultural heritage in the west indies. in 1916, a ghent woman, a teenage girl from her native was inspired by his message with the
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support of her father and mother. she said sale to montreal, canada, where her uncle was a member of the universal negro improvement association. i say all the words of this acronym so we understand what was intended. the universal negro improvement association. we want to be clear. following her position she spoke three languages, english, spanish, and french. she soon became part of the negro world newspaper where she and an african american man, tall and handsome, at one of the themntions, the two of met. long story short, she was mike grandmother. he was mike and father. my dad's parents. my grand mother. he was my grand father. my dad's parents.
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set in the values of being heirs of the african ds breath. african ds. of the . -- the african diaspora. day in andr on this get a chance to listen to others in and have an exchange, i am hoping that we do not stop here. when they talked about inviting for ther native emancipation day in-or acknowledging my father, i said, you have got to do it for that little girl who was inspired. you have to do it for the person who thought in that early day in her life in 1916 that i mattered and the people from whom i come also have value and got on that vote and came here.
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what you think you know by way of something else is not true. we have to be clear about how our history is told. a global sense of who you are. not from slavery. pre-existing of the slave trade. is when he wrote his i'm tethered. the powers do not get to define it or refine it or give it back to us. the going back to africa movement was not just about geography. no matter what the blend may have been in the western hemisphere, no matter what the experience was in the western hemisphere, knowing the roots, the value of that, has significance. there's no way for me to come , my there and wave a flag grandmother was born there. if we're going to talk about the story, let a spring in the root of the story and that is when i
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contacted dr. garvey to join me. it was wonderful for two children to share in that union. to know the stories we know. the sentences that we can conceive for one another in still have an affirmation to make sure this legacy moves forward for our children. direct legacy. then the global legacy of men and women such as marcus garvey. on that note, i will close. thank you. [applause] >> this is indeed history in the making. in the late 1800s, marcus garvey was saying he came -- and slavery in t said
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he said, being a race leader dawned upon them and he said he looked around him and said, where is the black man? where is this president? with his army? he looked around ent cannot found them and he vowed to help build them. that is what the movement is all about. that is why we need to correct this. that is why we are here today calling upon the president of the united states to grant this posthumous pardon to this great leader, this great individual whose birthday happens to be today. i would like to continue and lead a -- read a letter from the --orable andrew jackson former mayor of atlanta, georgia, and former united states ambassador to the united nations. write in support of the decision of the honorable and thearvey
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beneficiaries of his legacies in diaspora who are petitioning for a long-overdue presidential pardon. why it hasnded as to not yet been granted to this visionary and inspirational leader who is honored globally in recognition of his lifelong substantial contribution to society and his effort to uplift people of african descent throughout the world. every time i visit my grand daughter who lives across the street from the marcus garvey park in harlem, new york, i am grieved about the injustice this hero has been dealt with his name still bearing the scar of a conviction even know his sentence was commuted by president calvin coolidge. marcus garvey stands in history as one of the first leaders of
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the american rights movement in the early 20th century he was an advocate for the social and political independence of those around the world. he stakes his name and movement on the development of economic opportunity as a source of black empowerment. tonight his followers, he founded [indiscernible] , which at its height boasted nearly 6 million members in 40 countries. in the words of dr. martin luther king jr., he was the first man on a mass scale to give millions of negroes a sense of dignity and destiny and make the negro feel that he was somebody. because of these achievements he was viewed as a threat to the u.s. government. that would be before martin luther king would be targeted. hoover taught methods on how to
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disrupt and destroy garvey's civil rights movement. in 19 23, aided by judicial proceedings that have largely been condemned as unfounded and politically and racially motivated, garvey was convicted of mail fraud and sentenced to five years in federal prison. in recognition of the unsettling -- president calvin coolidge commuted the sentence in november, 1927 but deported him from the country. the posthumous pardon petition now filed on his behalf seeks to exonerate him from the stigma of his conviction following the commutation of his sentence efforts to fully clear his name have been ongoing on the part of the u.s. congress, civil organizations, city, state and international groups. more than 90 years after the imposition of this injustice, it is time to part us -- pardon
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marcus garvey. i implore all decision-makers to recognize the urgent need to address this matter resulting in a positive miss presidential pardon. andrew j young, chairman, andrew j young foundation. at the simon gives me great pleasure to bring to the podium dr. [indiscernible] who is here from the caribbean political action committee. he is the recipient of the 2013 congressional black caucus brain trust, leadership and advocacy award among many other awards. let's bring dr. downer to the podium. >> good afternoon. i decided to document my notes
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because i did not want to make any errors. today we honor the life and legacy of marcus garvey and he devoted his life to a traditional struggle, i'm part of whose work and sacrifice we still acknowledged today. as chair of the political action committee in this region, on behalf of the millions of caribbean people, we stand for unity and. or with the family of the right marcus garvey, the first national hero for jamaica, well-known as one of the first leaders of the civil rights movement here in the u nine states and -- united states.
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by extension, the wider african diaspora would seek to regard -- restore his good name. a champion of social justice and human dignity who reminded us that our senses have been dulled under the degrading treatment. he has rekindled that knowledge of individual and collective humanity. of our, of our genius and right to be here, reigniting the embers of wishing and hoping into a fire of doing. having a space of the way. his drive for economic empowerment and self-actualization pride was rekindled and it was remarkable. there is enough to struggle as his own parol. he worked tirelessly and was able to bring vision and confidence to life. as a child growing up in jamaica
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i heard the name of marcus garvey. it was synonymous with self-determination and of my right to be here. we were told about him in kindergarten and studied about him in high school. as i became an adult and immigrated to america my level of consciousness was threatened further as i realize the struggle he must have felt as i saw its sustenance from my own journey here. he had a vision in the worst of times, a vision for not only african-americans but for those of us in the caribbean and the world over who are marginalized, abuse and vulnerable. what you see in our educators or athletes are students, maurice bishop, and others exemplifies what we were taught in school, self pride. as my math teacher is to say when we got ready to do her exams and they were difficult, she was a up, your own
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accomplishment is what you are. up, up, you can accomplish which you will. although some of the students study. those words served as winds beneath our wings. it confirmed that regardless of our stations in life as children, if we took pride in our work and added the discipline of starting we would be successful. but mostly, we were. we passed those very challenging exams and continued climbing the ladder for academic goals. sometimes when we wavered in our quest our english teacher reminded us that everyone in our class was destined for greatness. she would say, a people without knowledge of their past history, their custom and culture is like a tree without roots. and then she would say,, you are
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deeply rooted. marcus made it so. and we believed. so today on his birthday i am influenced by his work that has continue to live on in us. we would be pleased if the president would grant our wish and fulfill the pardon. thank you. [applause] >> thank you so very much. i'm going to now bring to the podium the president and ceo of constituency for africa. he will tell you his specific relation to this issue. >> good afternoon. it's great to be here.
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congressman, it's great to see we miss you. we really miss you a lot. this is an honor for me to be here. dr. julius garvey is one of my closest friends. when i first met him and he said he is the son of maris of -- marcus garvey and i said how can he that be? i kind of did the math and said well, this is interesting. i want to first wish the honorable marcus garvey a happy 100th birthday. we should all celebrate this. i represent the constituency for africa. that's the name -- we work to supply public and private support for africa. i have been working on this for more than 40 years ago -- 40
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years. my own organization were 25 last year. we are working to build a base of support, dr. shabbaz is one of my greatest supporters. she gave me a thousand links, so i miss her. we are in action-driven organization. we don't think about agonizing, we think about organizing. i think what are we going to do about it. i don't claim to be of big historian. i read a lot of the books, but when icc the, dr. garvey and i have traveled quite a bit. if you want to know about marcus garvey you go with his son to trinidad. the whole place turned out for him. two months ago we went to south
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africa and libya. the whole place turned out for marcus garvey. while many of us don't know and forgotten, the rest of the black world knows. they admire mark a scurvy. -- marcus garvey. he said can you organize washington? everybody always lay stuff on it. i said what are you putting on me now, julius? but sometimes when i came here this is what this is about, what we really are talking about. what is the strategy going forward? i will help to get this pardon done. it's a matter -- i don't know why it hasn't got done. barack obama would endorse we
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are talking about today. maybe we have not pushed the right buttons. he is trying to save the world and keep donald trump from taking over and all of this kind of thing that he does in the course of a day. i know his heart and spirit is there. it is a matter of how do we go about decisioning it. for me, if it doesn't happen they share it will happen next year. it will happen. when i look at american history, it till to about where you are in history. i am not surprised that they locked him up, that they pushed him out of the country. i am not surprised because he was organizing black people. i am convinced that if he was alive today, this pardon would have been done. nobody could organize like marcus garvey could organize. that's the problem, we don't have the organizing capacity that marcus garvey himself represented. i am convinced of that. i think that this is a great
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day. this is a stunning panel here to outline the issue. i commit myself to do what i can, julius, to help it the pardon enacted. if we can do it before obama leaves office, that's great but if we have to do it after he leaves office, we will do it. thank you for giving me this opportunity. [applause] >> ok. thank you so very much. there are so very many people
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who wanted to be here and express the support for this pardon petition, one of which is dr. ron daniels founder of black world 21st century who happens to be in costa rica right now at the annual marcus carvey celebration. there are celebrations all over the world. just before we bring up, i will read a statement in support by congressman john conyers. " i am honored to present this statement as a posthumous pardon petition by his youngest son, dr. julius garvey. the events surrounding mr. garvey's conviction are well documented and have been provided as far as a legal brief and submitted to the office of the pardon committee on june 20 7, 2016. he was the leader of the largest african-american civil rights in
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the united states. he has been hailed as a hero, has had its treats named after him from new york to london and other places throughout the world. he has a halt named after him at the main or washington, d.c. headquarters and is the image on the $20 coin in jamaica. as a result of a conviction for mail fraud and 1923 and his deportation from the u.s. he is still seen as a criminal much to the chagrin of his family and the worldwide community. in 1987, we held a congressional hearing in which historians and scholars testified to the overwhelming evidence proving that mr. garvey was innocent of charges and that his conviction was a politically motivated effort to the -- delegitimize a african-american struggle at which he was the preeminent leader.
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along with others i urged president obama -- to consider a posthumous pardon. in the tradition of the last two united states presidents who both issued posthumous pardons for prominent americans who were or are admired for the minority communities and who were convicted in a different climate that was more harsh to their ethnic background. i look forward to doing everything i can to help make the exoneration for marcus garvey a reality. " it gives me great honor and privilege at this is stored in a bring forth the youngest son of the honorable marcus garvey, dr. julius garvey, who i think was only seven years old when his father died. he spent most of his childhood in jamaica.
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he received a medical degree in canada, came to the united states. he is an esteemed surgeon. vascular surgeon. his decision to become at dr. grew from the ideas of his family. it is important to now the achievement of this great man who is the son of a great, great and mighty men. who is seeking a sense of justice not only for his father but for the movement of which his father was a key part. dr. julius garvey. >> thank you so much. thank you for the turnout. thank you, panel. for your topic, there really
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isn't much for me to say. perhaps i will put a little icing on the cake. but not a major speech. i had to grow up with the fact that my father was a convicted criminal. kicked it -- convicted in the united states of america, which is the biggest and the strongest country in the world. and both of its exceptionalism in areas of democracy and justice, and it was very difficult for me as a young man to reconcile with i knew about my father personally and what i learned from my mother who was his right-hand man so to speak, to reconcile that with a criminal conviction. but it was clear that he gave his whole life and sacrificed
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his family for african people worldwide. as he said then, 400 million african people. now we would say, 1.2 billion african people. the largest -- third-largest -- number of people in the world. behind china, behind india and that of course us africans. from a geopolitical perspective, africa is the richest continent in the world. i just mentioned are numbers, so our human resources are also of great significance. but what has kept us back?
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it has been primarily european invasion and exploitation. i don't have to enumerate the to you, because it is very well known. the point is that it continues despite the guys, of the quality, of integration, despite the guise of the first black president, despite the guise of a post-racial society. i think we can draw a straight line over 100 years when my father came to this country in 1916 to now 2016.
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young black man is still being shot in the street in this post-racial era, in the largest and most powerful democracy in the world. i think there is a lesson here to be learned. i don't think we need -- i think president clinton have a racial dialogue to try to solve almost between the racist. that was just talk and talk and nothing really materialized. i think what the black lives matter movement is showing us is
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that the young black children are tired. they are tired of races. -- racism. they are tired of poor education and lack of skills. they are tired of living and a society that marginalizes them and restricts the opportunities to be a full human being. it was at marcus garvey came to america. so what lesson are we going to learn from that 100 years after marcus garvey, after his philosophy and the organizational skills to bring us together as a people? you know what my father said? the knowledge of their origins, culture and history is like a two -- tree without roots.
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that's one of our problems. we don't know our own origin and culture. we have been disconnected. he was made into a slave in the process continued in terms of our miseducation, and it continues for young men in the streets don't know their history . they don't know where they come from. they don't even connect with martin advocating and brother malcolm. everyone stands on the shoulders of those who have gone before. there will be no black president if it was not from civil rights
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movement. it was not from malcolm and dr. martin luther king. many are without names. the civil rights movement started with marcus garvey. a man met my father in england and who proclaimed himself --. he talked about the negro -- rising in kenya. people stood around and listen -- they memorize the articles and then ran off into the villages. to repeat the stories. the nationalism had rise to -- they rise the kenyan nation.
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but there was no kenyan nation created by the father, the burning spear. there could have been no kenyan national who camp to the united states to study. do you hear where i'm coming from? we stand on the shoulders of those who have gone before. this is a teaching moment. there is a lot on his plate. it's a moment when decisions have to be made. directions have to be change. systems have to be reevaluated. not just words. it demands action. that is why we are here today. that's why we think it is the right time to join the dots between 1916 and 2016. the system has not changed in
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order to give the black boy and the black girl their place in american society. we think that the time is now. to exonerate marcus garvey, my presidential post you must pardon -- poster miss pardon. thank you. >> just before i open it up for questions and answers i would like to thank all the analysts for your presentations. if you have questions for the love from us will you can direct it at them.
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we want to thank ambassador [indiscernible] , dr. downer, president and ceo of the constituents for african and dr. julius garvey, representative of the family of the dissenters -- to center -- descendents of the family of the honorable marcus garvey. with that i would like to open it up for questions and answers.
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please introduce yourself. >> my name is barbara simmons. i just want to know what are the next step and what is the strategic plan and what do we need to do next? >> would like to address that? >> thanks for your support all the way from liberia. we have already submitted our brief to the united states department of justice and to the white house counsel's office. legally there are no more steps
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for us to take. it is now and the presidents hand. what we are looking for from supporters is to begin a letter writing campaign, which we can give you more information about how to reach us and to express your sub or whether it is from the nation of liberia or from community organizations in your capacity so that we can let the president know that that we are desperately in support for measures to be taken. there are no more steps in the process that need to be taken besides community support and outreach. >> thank you. do you have any briefer marks you like to make? >> thank you very much. i was trying to hide out back here.
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didn't work. it's an honor, sir, as i said when you came up to me. there are thousands and house and some people who you will never meet who have been touched by your dad and now feel a sense of kinship to you and to this movement. i don't know that i have much to say. i will try to be deliberately redundant. i grew up in this country. in a segregated society. i didn't know what it was like to see what i see today, this was before the brown decision. i will be 68 years old and a couple of months so like you i don't have birthdays either. ambassadorship us contacted me and was trying to give me a
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sense of how this would unfold. i just knew i needed to be here. all the people who have spoken have done and fun job in underscoring the illegality of what has taken place. we know that j edgar hoover was a monster. there is no other way to put it. these trumped up charges against dr. garvey and others represent a long line of pattern of deliberate behavior to judge, disrupt, and take away the credit of individuals who at different point in our nation's history, particularly in the 1900s tried to bring about a sense of liberty, dignity and pride for people of african ancestry. i was there in 1987, part of a hearing we had as a member of congress to try to bring attention to this. i want to commemorate dr. garvey's birthday with all of you by pledging that all of us who are here now who have the facts, where the links and are commit -- connected to communities will do everything we can to get this done.
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a good point was made, legally there is not much more that can be done. this is a battle that moves to the court of public opinion, getting people in the streets whether this a black lives movement, members of both political parties, social clubs and fraternal organizations and professional organizations to get on board in a massive way so that we are able to call attention in the court of public opinion to a case that needs to be resolved. we were all taught as children that there is a time in a place for all things. this is the time, the place and the season for this exoneration to occur. i am glad to be a part of it. thank you. [applause] >> greetings. well.
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my cup overfloweth. i wanted to thank everybody for coming out. this panel was a dream team. with the support of everyone i think we can get it done this time. the honorable marcus garvey capi here but if president obama can pardon a turkey, you shouldn't have a problem with this. in the same light, we can show some justice, delayed may it be -- for the honorable marcus garvey. what you are doing is an extension of his initial petition for a pardon.
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he has made it a point that if he were to die before he was cleared that his family would continue to fight until it was done. i am glad to see dr. julius at his mature age is still fighting. this man has been fighting for decades. we should give him a round of applause for fighting as long as he has and will continue to fight. i want to thank you all. has anyone contacted or think we could get the support of eric holder? what is your opinion may be of galvanizing support from him. have you thought the naacp might be willing to support the cause? i wonder if they would in this day and age come out and support in your opinion. >> thank you.
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we like to respond. >> in the court of public opinion now, i don't see why the naacp will not support this. >> i am a member of the national press club but i am also on the d.c. house committee for the national museum of african american history and culture. i just came from their meeting today and when you are talking -- i thought -- i grew up with this too. marcus garvey was saying was a great savior. martin luther king was going to be here.
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amazing. and of course malcolm x. for all of us, the great -- this museum hopefully is going to have an impact for all of us to learn more about the african-american history. it is coming up very soon. i don't know where you will live . -- live. the work i'm doing is with the embassy. we have more embassies here than anywhere in the world. the history of the embassies and
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connection to african-american history, one of them -- people can put this on their calendar, at howard university the new ambassador of trinidad and tobago will be hosting a big concert on the 24th, which happens to be the same day as the official opening of the new museum. they will have watch parties all over the united states and here locally. for those of us at her here, i want to extend an invitation to this concert if any of you are interested you can seem afterwards. i don't know if there is something that is being done with marcus garvey at the museum , if there is history or memorabilia or maybe -- >> i have none. >> he needs to be listened somehow.
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i just bring that out because it's so timely that you are all here today and are talking about this -- the last miss only in museum that is coming on board that has taken forever to bring together on an american -- african-american history. there seems to be some convergence there in terms of what you are doing. i am going to stick around if anyone wants to use the to that. >> thank you very much. i would like to acknowledge a lecturer dr. ryan frazier who teaches philosophy and marcus garvey to young people. >> thank you. thank you dr. garvey for spearheading this and thank you just think, for your important work and going through legal channels. as dr. harvey mentioned, we
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stand on the shoulders of what marcus garvey started. this whole notion of a black president or black leader signaling progress comes from the energy of marcus garvey. i applaud this effort as much as i have doubts about obama heating it. i would still, i will do it for that strong reason and also because i study in the --, as you know, and tony martin wrote definitive works on her and her important influence in making the unia that required not only male but female presidents. my basic question is regarding the obama administration did reply to this question and they said that time had expired. can justin respond to this. how do we and light of knowing that the obama administration a few years earlier so the time has expired. so that legal argument comes up how we respond? >> the good news is that our
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time has not expired. what happened in 2011 is that another attorney who was unconnected to the family submitted a number of letters i got a response from life former pardon attorney saying that there was no opportunity for a posthumous pardon at that time. that former attorney has been fired and he is no longer in office. that application did not come from the family. the pardon is not illegal. that was incorrect, the information that she received. president obama still has the discretion to issue the pardon. the past two presidents have issued us to miss pardons. they have always issued posthumous pardons. they usually come towards the end of the president's term
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after the final election. an actuality as opposed to time being expired we are right on time, because this is usually the time when the pardons take place. >> a question over here? >> my name is joe maul -- jamal. i will be remiss if i failed to state that i am originally from milwaukee wear when i was a -- one of the story i wrote this was research into the rest -- residents of malcolm x. it is located in a place where the highway was cleared and they demolished the community to make way for the highway. and of course milwaukee is in the national news.
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is there a #associated with this effort? the other question and maybe there might be some suggestions. has there been an effort to get the president on the record while the cameras are rolling? >> justice for garvey. justice 4 garvey. >> i am stunned by the lack of knowledge across the spectrum. i personally think that it is
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not impossible. i think the challenge is how do we organize ourselves, who is on the advisory committee to make this happen. part of the problem is most of the people who have taken up the challenge are intellectuals, who write the great stuff. it's not the people who get organized. i think it's an organizing? than anything else. >> will take two more questions. >> i'm a reporter with the african-american newspaper. is there any other benefits to being exonerated besides clearing the record? and what your father would think
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about the state of black relations in the u.s. now? >> i sort of alluded to that by drawing a straight line between 1916 and 2016. i think the extra benefit is to legitimize the person and the ideology. it's sort of like coming out of the closet. you don't have to whisper. there's a difference. i think a lot of people, because of the stigma from so many people come up to me and say my father or my uncle was in the organization. i used to go to meetings and so on. then i'm stumped. it's kind of a whisper thing. it's not quite proper within american society. even and caribbean society it is
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not necessarily robert aaron there is still something so verse is about the idea. that has to be listed. we will now be going on a campaign to spread the word again 100 years later. what he meant and so on. we would like the #etc. etc.. this is a grassroots movement. we need organizations, different social groups, individuals to stand up. and stand up for our rights as african people. we are going to be going very, very public about this and asking for support from all africans, wherever. >> along with the #in the statement and the coin phrases and the logos and slogans is that we get the facts after that street so that passion doesn't
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distort the story. because that's what happens. i live with it. let's be really clear about what that paragraph is and where do we go for those bullet points and paragraphs. how do we state and research who garvey is. you can have a #and the t-shirt and the saying and then what? we need to be really clear about the language. who is dr. garvey, where -- why is there validity and importance, who we are now and sore for -- and so forth and so on. >> i would just like to briefly add i think that is an important
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point to ask what would garvey think? to me what would other black leaders in 1920's ask of the small -- of this moment. poets, the visionaries, the sculptors. as part of this movement the artists be creative and -- quick creative utterly. everybody has the same tools in the backpack. that's a statement about a moment of violence in black communities and so-called race wars. in reality it is similar to the moment. from that perspective artists have an amazing way of captivating our key -- ideas. sometimes it can help tell the nicer the movement. they should be a part of this does >> -- discussion as well. if they -- it's our normal questions from media this will
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be our final question. >> good afternoon. this has been an awesome experience and we all walk away from this experience and be really pumped up and excited. we are on the website, where can begin additional information so that we can continue to process this and make sure that we have our facts and our facts are correct. >> i'm going to respond to that when i go back to the podium. i want to be clear.
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>> june 25 is when it was filed with the justice department. the brief was on the 27th of july. we have copies that are available. thean e-mail you copies of petition and any information you are interested in getting. >> i'd also like to acknowledge those who worked very much with respect to the committee to bring this about, founder of the caribbean american heritage month. with response to your question about what more can people do, i'm going to take the liberty of saying this is going to be a
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small strategy session this afternoon at 4:00 o'clock at the howard university international center. it's at 3:00 o'clock. 3:00 o'clock at the ralph bunch center. to stat apologizerategize thank you so much for coming to this -- to strategize on what are the next tips. thank you so much for coming to this press announcing the historic filing of the petition for the exoneration through pardon of the honorable marcus garvey. this is the right place at the right time. we need to correct this historical wrong. thank you very much. >> before we close we're going to take a photograph of the panel here. and mr. congressman, could you join me for this picture? >> okay. >> if you'll just stand right here.
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