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have been championing, if you run the department in real time, if you are noble in the way you deploy resources and you move and you it feedshose results, itself. it is not something that they do because i or chief magaw says this, they see value in it and they're having success with it. quite frankly, the greatest satisfaction i have is watching people innovate now and come up with better ways to do it. at the end of this process, none of this is done. nike had a great slogan of years ago, "there is no finish line" thing? the next constantly encouraging people throughout the department to be looking at how we do it and come will with a better way. i think we have run out of time at this point. i want to thank david and charles and susan and hank for
>> the national park service celebrating its 100th anniversary this week and is from washington today from the white house, the president has dedicated a new national monument in northern maine. this adjacent to baxter state park. 87,000 acres donated by one of the founders of burt's bees products. the news first coming out this morning in a tweet from the white house. here is a look. pres. obama: hey, everybody.
>> congresswoman tweeting, this is an exciting and historic day for our state. a full stamen on the national monument. 87,000 acres in northern maine dedicated and announced today by the white house as a new national monument. she is favor, but the associated press writes about independent senator angus king, republican senator susan collins, and also republican bruce poliquin
encouragement running earlier -- writing earlier concerns over the national monument. the ap also saying the governor of maine called proposal and ego play. all of this happening this week. the 100th anniversary of the national park service and over on american history tv on c-span3, we will remember the founding of the park service with a special program this thursday night beginning at 7:00 eastern. we have and asking members of congress their thoughts on their favorite parks and what they think about the national park service. here is french hill of arkansas. >> i represent central arkansas. today i'm at the central high school museum here in little rock, a centerpiece of the civil rights trail around the south will stop here in 1957 was the biggest school integration crisis following the brown versus board of education decision. the national park service as this memorial here at central high school, one of the most beautiful high schools in our country.
avid outdoorsmen so the national park in arkansas that has the most meaning to me is the first national river in our country, the buffalo national river. i have been going there literally for about 55 years. so have many, many miles on the river and wonderful happy memories. teddy roosevelt led the charge to protect america's wild places in special places. he believed in the strenuous life. and now more than ever, our young people, our families, need to get outdoors and enjoy and erika. that is why as you're watching the show, i am in maine hiking in the national park in the northeast, participating in the 100 mile challenge. i urge everyone in america this fall to support our centennial for the national parks and get outside, america. are national park service, 100th anniversary special, coming up tomorrow night live
from arlington house, the most home in the to work national park service. live coverage beginning at 7:00 p.m. eastern on american history tv on c-span three. our campaign coverage continues this afternoon coming up in under an hour, we will take you live to tampa, florida. donald trump is there for a campaign rally at the state fairgrounds. getting underway about 1:00 eastern live here on c-span. up until then, we will take you to the crowd or, jimmy carter talking but the issues concerning civil rights and individual freedoms. we will show you as much as we can until the donald trump rally gets underway around 1:00 eastern. >> good afternoon, everyone. welcome to a lovely day. thank you to specifically this wonderful opportunity. [applause]
>> but i'm not as well dressed as you are. [laughter] is derreck kayongo. i'm very proud to be here. we're going to do some quick housekeeping. put up your cell phones if you have one, put it into a vibrator i think they call it these days. when we're done with the program, if you would wait for the president me to walk at would be lovely as well. questions, write them down and pass them along. carter, research related to talk -- delighted to talk to today. there's a lot going on, as you can imagine. [laughter] this question is around right and justice.
a national conversation that is serious. particularly around the bill of rights, which some of them includes the 14th amendment. i was curious to see and hear from you what you think about civil rights today versus yesterday? about theen reading founding fathers. i read a book about james madison and jefferson and washington just to see again after many years of studying a long time ago, about the days of our country. as you may know, the first draft of the constitution did not include the bill of rights. statesuld not get enough to ratify the constitution of the united states until the bill of rights was added. that was a big major undertaking. james madison and others helped to draft those 10 limits to the
constitution -- amendments to the constitution known as the bill of rights. it wasn't until after the civil war when the 13th, 14th, and 15 minutes were passed -- let me ask you all, when did the women get a right to vote in this country? [indiscernible] >> that's not right. that is when the white women got the right to vote. that is a very important thing 1920, ther because in constitution was passed, but when they said women had a right to vote, well, you cannot discriminate because of sex. it really just included white women. it wasn't until 30 something years later that the civil melindaaws asked johnson was president, after the civil rights movement and african-american women got the right to vote.
that is important issue. the 24th of mimic came along later and you do not have to pay poll tax. until then in the south, some southern states, you had to pay a poll tax in order to vote. it is been a step-by-step progressive element. andhe 19 fifth -- 1960's , readingarry truman and 19 38, there were the -- ordained it would be no military discrimination. that was before rosa parks sat in the front of the bus and martin luther king junior became famous. as i mentioned earlier, when now basically passn
a civil rights act and people all over the country could vote. i and most other leaders in our country , only provided for equality of treatment for all of our people. eriodprovided a brief pr relaxation. what we've seen lately, mostly what police against african americans and so forth, we still have a long way to go. understand we have had a relapse. and nowadays, there seems to be another stirring of a deeper commitment by country that can no longer limit ourselves but see what can be done about the rights for everyone. the gays and lesbians and so forth as well as people with different races.
we are in a constant struggle in the united states of america to light and begin life rather nations to follow and for ourselves to benefit as well. it has been a long, continuous struggle that still goes on. >> at the center for civil them in right, we're looking [indiscernible] i'm an interesting story. when i worked for you as an election monitor -- >> i remember those days. >> i had never voted before. i am ugandan and never had a chance to vote in our country. i get a chance to vote for the first time in the united states. i woke up at 3:00 in the morning -- [laughter] i was in line. the idea that an african young boy to come into this country and be afforded the same
that native born citizens were given, was remarkable. so now that we have this issue of voting going on, how do you feel about it? this is a big election year. >> with had a large number of people turn out to vote this year. , for trump and bernie sanders, who is not voted before, and both parties, but i would say in the republican party, particularly state-by-state, as they become domineering, and the state legislature and the governor's theces, they tighten up ability to vote. complicated acquisition of an id card. so this is discriminated against for people were poor are never had a driver's license, older
people in nursing homes that don't have a need to drive their own automobiles. i think we still see a very those who are not likely to vote for them. when i was governor of georgia, there was a pretty wide country to increase those who vote. we passed a law. we designated every haskell prince will in jordan -- high school principal in georgia to be a voting registrar. every may or so, i would have a contest in georgia while i was governor to see which high school could register the most new people to vote there were just approaching the age of 18. when i got to the white house, attempted to do the same thing, i found it was impossible. a liberal democrat ken and me
and said, mr. democrat, you're not going to be successful with this. either democrats more republicans, open to a lot of voters because the presently qualified voters with them there and they don't want a whole bunch of new unpredictable voters to come in to vote. reluctance toisan let voting be open and free and universal. for long time, the carter center monitored the elections in china. there were a lot of them. , which small villages are not part of the communist party system post up in china, and most little villages, everyone is automatically registered to vote when they reach the age of 18 -- jack think we should have in this country as well. haveich i think we should in this country as well. that is the kind of thing we need to do this country, let voting without going through any
procedure, which leads to -- when reaching the legal age to vote. . whichhave human rights, are facing a front around the world. i think it is particularly disturbing, this idea that people feel rights around the world are being denied. from southern africa. what do you think we think about human rights today versus yesterday? is been a very disappointing thing. i'm not just been critical, but i think their opportunities for employment -- improvement. --had an area where others when i was in the navy, of in moralfor greatness
and ethical values as human beings. it is only happen once in history, so far as i know. and that was immediately after the second world war. in 1945 in san francisco, a symbol about 45 nations or so, victorious primarily. they established the united peace. with the idea of peace. the united nations and security council was designed to prevent wars. a few years later, the university -- declaration of human rights was passed. with some caveats. the south africans would not agree for blacks to vote. leadingould not permit
rusher and so forth. -- most of the time, people i was at that moment human beings look at combined christianity, judaism, islam, and so forth -- and they took the finest elements of every one of those great religions and put them down into a very brief paragraph that comprised the universal declaration of human rights. a perfect picture of how everybody should be treated equally, equal rights. so the security council has abandoned its commitment to peace. if you are a powerful nation with a permanent member, and
have like a veto, you can do almost anything. the security council will not condemn you. i think the united states has sent armed troops to about 30 countries to fight under the approval of the united nations since the second world war. other countries can do the same thing. if they are powerful enough. "thete an op-ed piece for new york times" two years ago that showed the united states is now violating at least 10 of the 30 paragraphs in the universal declaration of human rights. a lot of those relate to the discrimination against women who are to be equal. it is not just blacks being equal to whites and so forth, but -- so i think we have a long way to go still. we need to reassess the basic purpose of the united nations to be for peace, not on conflict to resolve issues and commit
ourselves, recommit ourselves to the basic principles of human rights. googleyou to call upon universal declaration of human rights. you can read it in half a minute -- well, a couple of minutes. 30 paragraphs. it spells out what you should do on human rights. it is easily violated. it is easily justified. like 9/11, the united states clamped down and took away our own civil rights, including some of mine. that's true. as far as freedom of knowing information -- so we have a long way to go. ladyere is an interesting in the audience here today, mrs. abernathy. she and i were talking over lunch. she was talking about, recounting her husband's work
and everybody's work in the civil rights movement. how they connect to the human rights movement. do you as a georgian feel proud of what the state has gone through and has worked through to the civil rights -- home of the civil rights movement, right? >> yes. well, from georgia, proud of what he did and the people associated with him. but there was a time during the 1950's when georgia was a very negative on the civil rights movement and we condemned martin is looking junior is a communist -- martin luther king jr. as a communist, someone trying to overthrow the basic structure of the federal government, of the u.s. government. had legalars, we discrimination against black
people from 1865, yuma second-most in 1965, it was a combined commitment of churches and the u.s. congress and you supreme court anemic and bar association all said it is ok -- american bar association said it is ok to discriminate against african-americans and consider whites superior. that was a major, smith for him and those heroes in the civil rights movement. . was one of the few southern states that did not integratinghange in our schools, for instance, after the supreme court ruled they should be no longer separated, but equal. other states had leaders in arkansas and so forth that student the school house door, and in some cases, that descendent -- they had to send an armed troops to make them comply. we've had a good chance in this
state to do well. recently with the lgbt legislators -- passed by the legislature and the governor vetoed that legislation, so we're kind of distinguished now against north carolina in the past has been quite enlightened on civil rights. but it shows we have another battle to fight after the race issue, we hope someday, will be resolved equally. a chance withe gay people and lesbian people and transgender people. >> to do more questions before we go to the audience. for use today to be part of petitioning for rights, he sit in the black lives matter expression and you see the kids in africa were speaking out and time -- a rough
everybody has a rough time. how do the youth today take this mantle of rights and do it in a way that is respectable and also influential? >> if the young people do not do it, it won't be done. instance college age. that is a time in a human beings formative years when they have a maximum degree of considering new ideas, from their classmates, professors, from reading. they are also unbound by preserving the status quo. a must as soon as you graduate from college, there is a substantial part of your human freedom, if you get a job with
delta airlines or coca-cola or a bank or you get a job teaching school, you have to comply with the policies of your corporation or the school system. and you lose that freedom you had on a college campus to speak out with a single voice, get four or five people or maybe 40 or 50 to join you, and so that is when there is a stirring of self-analysis, i would say maybe a conscience, and you say, what can i do to improve this world? but that is quickly stamped out when you get a job for you start having to support a family. why in a mosts every country on earth, it is the young people who have started a revolution that has gone about -- brought about changes or improvement in society. >> do you think today in the united states we're doing a good job bringing up kids that understand moral aptitude? >> i think so.
i believe on most college campuses, for instance, and i'm including those who may not be going to any college, there is an effort than most college campuses, not all of them, to originate new ideas and new concepts and to encourage students to adopt a higher ideal or higher aspirations of moral values and ethical values and to question the political arrangement are the societal arrangements in which they were grown up. and as i said earlier, when you get to be older and sent having a family of your own, you do not want to rock the boat. you do not want to endanger your own job. you do know what to become unemployed when you have a wife or children to take care of and so forth. i would say that in the u.s., we have an adequate degree of
strength opportunities on the campus just began out, innovative, sometimes semi-revolutionary way. >> those of you that have questions -- there is one of their. yes. it are these ministrations that set up a second apartment of education -- and congratulations on that -- do you think we would benefit and would you favor mandatory courses in the curriculum, perhaps as early as elementary school, on human and civil rights, conflict negotiation -- conflict resolution and negotiation. >> that is a hard question for me to answer because i think when you start having the federal government -- i presume you would say, to mandate if you have to have this or that course
for fourth graders or eighth graders were seniors in high in high- or seniors school, that kind of interferes with the basic commitment i have to let local people decide on their own curriculum. school, there should be a basic social science history ofng the human rights and also encourage students to learn about with their own countries doing, yes, i think it would be a good idea. but we have to be careful not to in their righth to set their own curriculum. >> you have lived a long and full life, and the world has changed so much in your lifetime
. we look in the archives but also into the future. at for thewe look future as we deal with the changes we are living in? >> well, i grew up during the great depression years. all my neighbors were african-american and all my playmates were black, those with whom i worked in the field were black. until i was a teenager, i never realized that they had mandatorily separate and unequal schooling. i never realized their parents could not vote. i never realized my playmates' parents could not serve on a jury, that they had been deprived of basic rights. obligatione have an
now as adults to make sure our children understand not only th highest ideals of where a , about equald be opportunity and equal rights to everyone, but also to look at the history of successes in the past and to glorify the champions, like martin luther king, jr., rosa parks, and others. well, lyndon johnson and harry truman. i had boycotts operated against my business, but i never had a threat to my life, like others had. anyway, to teach the history of what has been done in the past, and we can all, within our own can think about past and the changes that have been brought about, and also think about the achievements
have not been perpetuated because of a natural tendency of any one of us to feel superior to someone else. element of pride ingrained within us. i am at least better than a drug addict or alcoholic, a prisoner. least better than a black person or than a woman or do we have those misconceptions that we are better than somebody else. donenk that could be better and could be discussed in a school climate. we will have people collect the yellow cards in the program so we can grab the questions and get them on the air. we also have a webcast, and people are teaching and sending questions from different schools. volunteers are coming around to
collect these. >> but i have got to go to a willie nelson concert tonight. [laughter] [applause] >> well, i hope i can come. [laughter] >> while we wait for the , onection of the questions of the biggest things that is interesting right now is the subject along religion. i think that some people now are either happy or sad that the new mayor of london happens to be a muslim. i was able to join in on the celebration with most people that he was elected. >> what do you think about the passion around this? >> well, this young man is quite highly qualified.
he won without equivocation. , london he is a muslim society, just from observing people, is quite diverse now and becoming more so. but i think with the present quandary in which europe finds his closing it stores to refugees because many of them happen to be islamic, i think this has been a clear, good signal for europe to observe. so i'm very pleased with that. >> most people do not know that in our congress, we have a ,ongressman that is buddhist who happens to be in this room today. here is a question from the audience. how do we impress upon younger that change has actually occurred, even though
we have more left to do? and how do we restore hope? >> well it is hard to answer , that question. how do we convince young people? but in our schools and our family life, which i mentioned earlier, we can certainly outline the history of the struggle for human rights, because a lot of people think that human rights that we have enjoyed have always been with us, particularly in the united states of america. we do not realize that for many years, women cannot vote, and black women could not vote until much later. and people who did not pay taxes could not vote. we do not realize that. even our original constitution did not have any bill of rights in it. the first segment of our session here, there is a quick history that we should share with our young people. >> this is an interesting one
that is around the idea of power, absolute power. is power corruptive inherently? is power corruptive inherently? the current election season has, that thereon, shown is no need for super pac's. >> like citizens united? >> i think this is about the ones that go behind your back. >> i think one of the stupidest decisions that the supreme court has ever made was citizens united. [applause] they ordained that a corporation has the same characteristics under the constitution as a human being, and now we have massive and fuses -- and fusions of money into the political campaigns. when i ran for office, it was a
completely different. you know, we raised money, just a few dollars at a time, and there was a limit on what anybody could contribute. when i ran in the general election against the incumbent president, later against the challenger, do you know how much money i raised? zero. i did not have to raise any money. we accepted a one dollar per that a taxpayer could indicate on his texan turn, and that put the dollar in the pot. so ford and i shared the money in that pot. we did not ask contributors to give us money. now we have what i would call legal bribery in this country. [applause] congress,andidate for governor, u.s. senator, or president has to go out to people and ask for money, and
it isnnot get elected -- considered that a nominee could raise hundreds of thousands of dollars, but i think that has deteriorated our electoral .ystem far below the standards we would not dream of monitoring and election in a country that had the same rules that the united states has. we would require that they have a circular election commission so there is the same voting all over the country. united states lets every county decide basically how people vote. punchcards and that sort of thing. countries, we require that all the qualifying counties have eagle access to radio and television advertisements --
have equal access to radio and television advertisements. so i would say that citizens united was a great setback to democracy in our country, not just to the election process, but democracy. it makes every successful election candidate in the congress almost obligated to certain special interests for access and to answer their questions and to take advice on how to vote on issues. i think it has been a terrible setback. and it is all recent. >> yeah. is, what recommendations -- the next one is, what recommendations do you have for ordinary citizens to change the discourse of elected officials in washington, d.c.? that process has come the polarization of parties in washington, d.c. in addition to the massive
infusion of money into the campaign of the voting public, we also have gerrymandering. when the republican or democratic state legislature gets dominant, the governor is of the same party, then they can contrive delineations of voting districts. maybe in a certain state, like georgia, they want to put all the white people in the same districts and let them have a few black congressman who are democrats. and then the vast majority of would be or 65% or so in those districts, and they are basically republican and white. this is done all over the country. that is something congress could change if they want to, but they do not because they are benefited from it. i think the supreme court could
rule quite easily that they for,d have a commission ,bviously, balance,'s edition that would decide on the delineation of districts. two states have this requirement . gerrymandering, contriving districts, and the massive new edition of money has been the hasworst things, and that resulted in negative advertising. i never dreamed of having a negative commercial against one of my opponents for president. if i had, i would have been the one people condemned. you should not cast that on your opponent's character. now that is where a lot of the money goes. you raise all these millions of dollars, and you spend it on commercials about the reputation of your opponent. it gives a bad impression of
both candidates. and then republicans will begin to despise democrats and vice versa. you have almost 100% republicans will vote against anything obama asks for. the basic debates take place in the party caucuses. republicans go to their caucus -- and decidee to how to vote, and then they almost have to vote 100% the way the majority says. when i was president, the floor the house and senate, we would have long and exciting debates. that is no longer happening. i am being very critical of the political process and the government in my country. that is because i feel that way. i don't apologize for that. [applause] this one puts you and i on the spot. >> read another one. [laughter]
says, thank you for your call to action for the liberation and dignity for women. what is your message to men who don't think they are sexist but will support language and policies that oppress women? would like forly everybody interested in basic human rights, decencies and moral values, to read the book i read about the oppression of women. it is the worst human rights crime on earth. and the people who perpetrate and enforce discrimination against women are basically men. a lot of those men are religious leaders.
where early in my religion, christianity, women were deacons phets and spiritual leaders of all kinds, as expressed by st. paul. he even gave names of them. and then after a few years, within the christian community, women became dominant. over time, women were excluded from roles in churches, which gave a signal to everyone that in the eyes of god, men are superior. women are inferior. if a woman cannot be a deacon, a woman cannot be a chaplain, a woman cannot be a priest, it says that in the eyes of god, women are not qualified to do
those things. if a husband wants to dominate or even abuse his wife, he says, well, if the church does not think my wife is equal to me, then why should i treat her equal? treat women employees by paying her less than a man, they might say subconsciously if god is not , think she is equal to me, then why should i treat her equal to my men workers? it permeates society. also, the element of violence. i have already blamed the united nations security council for condoning violent acts, but this is also a factor in the abuse of women and girls, were dominant men,ers, primarily perpetrate horrible crimes of rape with bayonets and bottles, things of that kind -- it is a horrible thing to talk about.
in some cases, it involved united nations troops from countries that falling tiered to fight for the united nations. this is terrible. in my own country, atlanta, georgia, i would say is one of the most heavily trafficked places in our country and in selling slaves. we have the largest airport on earth, and all a lot of our passengers come from the southern hemisphere. a lot of them are dark skinned or african-american and they can , be sold cheaply to a brothel. the average price for a female sex worker who is dark skinned is only $1000. the new york times did an analysis about a year ago that showed that a brothel can only get $36,000 a year profit from her.
there are between 200 and 300 girls sold into slavery in atlanta every month. in we have discrimination our military forces, as well. it is all countries that are guilty. and we know that we have something similar on college campuses with sexual abuse being prevalent. and rarely, rarely, even the most enlightened campuses, harvard, yell, princeton, as well as other colleges, they have a serious problem, as well. rarely is a rapist on the college campus expelled. half of the sexual abuse on a campus is perpetrated by a rapist. once they get on a college campus, they know they can satisfy their sexual desires
without punishment. they become habitual rapists. this is in our own country. in foreign countries, you have women whose sexual organs are horribly mutilated and you have honor killings and other things, which our country is not guilty of. but it happens in every country around the world. it is the worst overall human rights abuse there is, and the men are responsible for it. same thing we had during the civil rights time. a lot of white people felt that discrimination or segregation was not right. but we benefited from it. we got the best jobs and the best education. benefited.ones that so why should we give up this privilege even though we know it is wrong? thenow men benefit from
discrimination issue against women, so why should we speak out about it and change the status quo that puts us in a superior position in society? long answer -- i am sorry. [applause] >> we have a few more before we close. this one is a bit easier. >> thank you. [laughter] >> it is for the both of us. it talks about our upbringings. i find we are in an intersection. you have a little african boy over here from uganda. >> i want to hear about that. >> who left the country as a former refugee. kenya, and i was
raised by an american woman from pittsburgh. she taught me how to drink iced tea. [laughter] then she took me out to eat cookies, and the british eat biscuits. gets tos give this dogs. [laughter] >> i had biscuits for breakfast. [laughter] >> different kinds of biscuits. >> i understand that. >> so when i got to this country and checked into a hotel, the hotel had two bars of soap, special soap, hand washing soap,
and then there was another kind of soap. what is the difference? >> i don't know. [laughter] >> i do not know the difference between the three soaps. >> but americans are bourgeois like that. [laughter] >> i don't disagree. >> then i end at school, and i started at a company. then i looked to refugee camps back at home. i was the helm of the center for human rights. that is my story. what is your little story? [laughter] >> it does not start with soap.
[laughter] >> we used to make our own soap bighe farm, and that was a project we had every time we killed hogs. -- some of theth background is similar to yours, there were difficulties. and i did go to hotels with soap. [laughter] >> as i said earlier, i think i was lucky that i just happened to grow up in a community that was african-american. and my mother was a registered nurse, and she was gone away a lot. she would sometimes work a 20-hour duty. she would only get off four hours a day. so we did not see my mother very much. so i was mostly raised by
african-american women. all my playmates or african-american, as well. i benefited ultimately from my mother's enlightened attitude towards the race issue. it was the customs of the times, and i think that is where i got my views of what should be done about civil rights at home and human rights on a more broad basis. i have seen the tremendous abilities that can come from opening up an opportunity for people to exhibit their human rights. one of the practical things was in south america. before i was president, most of the countries in south america .ere military dictatorships they were in bed with the
presidents of the united states and with the corporations in the united states, because they were the ones that controlled the oil , and the bananas and pineapples the monopoly on those products was a great burden. so whenever one of those dictators were threatened by dissenting voices within his own country, from indigenous indians or former slaves or poor people, united states would send troops down there to protect our friend, the dictator. chile, brazil,, uruguay, paraguay. when i established the human rights policy, we began to protect the rights of those foreign deprived that were not able to speak up.
within 10 years, every country in south america became a democracy. i am saying that this is a practical indication of the benefits of, theoretically, helping from a distance so people have a chance to speak their own mind and elect their own leaders. that is part of my background. now i have two kids that i know of at this -- >> yeah. [laughter] kevin is growing up as a new american. kevin is 16 now, and he is 6'4".
he plays basketball. he is a classically trained pianist. >> really? we should have brought him along. >> logan is 11. elegantly tough now. i love her to death. how do i take these two american kids and inspire them to understand that the country they remarkable country? because we hear so much about the u.s. been a bad country and horrible, so how do you inspire hope ring up? there is a lot of reason for hope. our country has learned the hard way. the best thing, characteristic of america that gives me hope is
the fact that we have such a heterogeneous population. the united states is not a melting pot. i think it is more of a mosaic. each individual still has a shining bright, a different color or different characteristic, and you put them all together, and you have a group of courageous innovators willing to improve themselves and to demonstrate a commitment to a higher ideal, freedom of religion or whatever it was. we still have that inherent characteristic in our country. so, we havers or had a proven commitment to improve ourselves. we make mistakes. but our mistakes become increasingly apparent.
and they are self-correcting, so i think that is what gives us hope. seen for halfve of my lifetime, i would say since the 1960's, we have seen african-americans treated not only equally, but because of a superior quality and baseball and basketball and other things, that has juvenile the rest of society. the assertion that we are all equal in god's eyes and are -- and in our capabilities. some people have superior qualities. i would say that your children, certainly 6'4" already, have a
good future ahead. he will be able to get scholarships to most colleges. i am a trustee at a local college and -- [laughter] >> i am a trustee now. students ago with 3000 -- [laughter] that has been opened up and i think there is plenty of opportunity for hope. >> thank you. less than men. a right of an elected official to refuse to consider a supreme court nominee?
of those. one >> i think that the u.s. senate, republicans have made a serious mistake in not considering the nominee for the supreme court that has been put forward by president obama. [applause] >> it is a very worthy candidate. if the judicial committee would meet and vote, they could present a name to the senate and vote and say no, that would be ok to me. but just to refuse until obama is out of office, i think it is a mistake. it does not abide the constitution or the laws, and i think it violates the spirit of our country and sets a bad example. somet's talk about
completing remarks. i am inspired everyday by different people. in the room today, we have my .oard member and her husband there.out and her husband. every time i look at her, she inspires me. who inspires you? what inspires you? fa was inspired by her father. he sent a long ethical standard for me as a president in doing equitably with the people who live in africa.
he did it in a quiet way without preaching to me. we -- and hen that went on his first trip to he went on his first trip to africa as my ambassador to the united nations. we wantto say not what you to do, but what can the united states do for you? there are still a lot of heroes that i have. nelson mandela was a great friend of mine. his intimate circle, and he has been to the card -- the carter center. we have worked on human rights programs. --ould say there was
[indiscernible] a white person that made an impact on the was my earliest school superintendent. was someone who was jewish who had a lot of influence on my life. we do not need to look very far for inspiration. i happen to be religious. i think the ultimate standard of perfection for a human being is a life of jesus christ, and that is why i teach the bible every sunday at church. we can look at 2000 years ago or see in recent years and thele who encourage wisdom, highest ideals that should guide
us all. >> well, before i thank you for what has been a wonderful and our, a seditious man , i wantity and kindness to say you are my hero. [applause] can outtand up if you there. [applause] >> she is the director of the museum. she holds a very important place in my life, as well. thank you, meredith, very much. [applause] >> again, thank you so much for
coming. we want to thank the museum for hosting us. peters for being with us, and for everyone here that is a distinguished guest and honored guest. remember the wonderful moments, know thatthem, and they do not come back, so i wish there was more of us here to listen to a voice of perfection. [applause] >> thank you very much. >> thank you, everybody, for coming out. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org]
shortly, we take you to florida for the donald trump rally. here is a tweet from the political reporter from the washington post. and then two words justify voting for him -- supreme court. when ithave that live starts. until it gets underway, part of today's "washington journal" looking at the recent justice department decision dealing with private prisons. host: an attorney with the american civil liberties union and their national resins project -- national prisons project, talking about the use of privately operated prisons. how many are there and the united states, and how many prisoners do they have? guest: nearly 200,000 people held in private prisons around the country.
federal,000 are in the prisons and are affected by this decision. host: how did the federal government get into the private prison business? mid-1990'sted in the as the federal prison population was exploding, and it was a combination of prison overcrowding and a believe that if the federal government turned to the private sector, they would be able to somehow innovate and save money. with this decision thursday, the federal government has made a clear statement that this experiment is over and is a failure. host: why do they think it was a failure? guest: they found the private prisons were not able to enter the same safety and security is regular federal presence, that they were not able to provide medical services, rehabilitative services in the same way as regular federal prisons. for example, they experienced
nine times as many lockdowns and more violence in a regular comparable federal prison. host: talk about the aclu involvement. how long have you been working on this project? you have been working to end the use of prize it -- of private prisons, as well. >> it has been a multi-your project. aclu published a report about this federal prisons, and that was the result of four years of research and interviews. we found that the conditions inside these federal private and thewere terrible, bureau of prisons was failing to provide appropriate oversight. host: we want to hear your thoughts and questions about the pronouncement that came out last thursday. our guest is with the aclu. here are the numbers --
host: we want to hear from you if you have personal experience, also. now.an start calling in the justice department is looking to end the use of private prisons. what about the states? a lot of people are in private prisons that are not federal prisoners. guest: it does not directly affects the states, but i think it will put a lot of pressure on state agencies to follow suit and in their own contracts with private prison companies. when the justice department looks at these contracts and says these private prison companies are failing to meet our standards, it will be hard ce, toencies, including i say we have contracts with this and companies that think they are doing great. host: talk about ice's
involvement, because it does not fall under what the justice department does. is under the department of homeland security, an entirely different cabinet level agency. it is not affected by the department of justice is a decision. 34,000 beds,heir 60 to present a run by private prison companies. ice: how many are there for versus the justice department once? are they in the same complexes? guest: these are different complexes. i think it works out to being a similar number. 22,000 beds for the bureau of prisons, and about 24,000 beds run by private prison companies for ice. but the ice contracts are
considerably more lucrative. for example, 14% of the corrections corporation of america's revenue comes from a single ice contract to detain families seeking asylum. you mentioned the corrections corporation they responded to the announcement last week. their spokesman was quoted in the washington post. he said that the report's author , something about the reports looking into the practices and effectiveness of private prisons, and midi they were unable to evaluate all the factors that contributed to the underlying data. they failed to impact for elements such as population, demographics, or the scope and efficacy of efforts to mitigate contraband. they seem to be implying that , thetats are wrong here effectiveness of the private prison system. are saying it was an unfair comparison. but when you think about it, they were handed low custody
prisons. this should be an easy population for them to deal with. going back into history, in the , the federal government sent maximum-security prisoners to private prisons, and that was an unmitigated disaster. there were escapes an incredibly high levels of violence. then they said, ok, we will give them the easy prisoners, and that is what they did. what qualifies you to go to a private prison versus a federally run prison? to be lowst, you have custody, no exceptions. the vast majority of people sent to private prisons in the federal system are non-us citizens. this is also a population mix where some overwhelmingly, it is people convicted of nonviolent offenses, either drug offenses or the felony of reentering the united states after being deported. we are talking about the
justice department's announcement last week to end the use of private prisons. a special line for those who have experience with private prisons. lines for call our republicans, democrats, and independents. chris is a democrat. you are up first. federal prisons, seems like they take advantage of the inmate, as well. i have the prisoners -- heard about things where they make them work and give them a forain salary to make money them. of --so the prisoners not evaluated -- host: are you saying they are
treated differently at private prisons than at federal prisons? yes, and the way they are treated and everything, yes, it is completely different. it is not the way they would be treated in a federal prison. host: is that true? programss, there are and private prisons and private prisons in regular federal prisons. in a regular federal prison, there are programs where you can get jobs that are extremely low paying, but it is cut prison industry. you may beginning giving some useful job skills for the outside. those do not exist in federal private prisons. the jobs you can get are things like swapping the toilets. host: baltimore, maryland, independent. caller: good morning. thank you for having me. great discussion. i wanted to comment quickly on,
first of all, i absolutely support having contracts -- ending contracts with private prisons. i think the privatization of something like imprisoning our citizens is deplorable. morley, i do not agree with it. morally, i do not agree with appeared something that changed bookew of this issue is a by angela davis, and she talks about the criminalization of individuals in our society and how that can have a devastating impact. that is all i have to say. thank you very much. guest: you raise an excellent point. one of the reasons why we are in with relying on private prisons for incarceration in the first place is we're in the midst of an unprecedented era of mass incarceration. from 1970 to 2010, the number of
people incarcerated in the u.s. grew by more than 700%. this needs to change. host: this chart shows the location of private prisons being used by the federal government. werean see the states those prisons exist. how soon after this announcement until all of these locations are shut down? departmentjustice anticipates it is going to be about a five-your process, but it starts quite soon. they have already amended one open solicitation. it was nearly 11,000 beds and texas, and that is going to be cut down to 3400. host: john on the line for those with experience in private prisons. caller: hello. host: go ahead with your question. matter if it is maximum or minimum security? of the federal
private prisons affected by this decision are already low custody prisons for the reasons i described. host: not the maximum-security folks. what about the private prisons used by state governments and by immigration and customs enforcement? guest: for state governments, it runs the gamut. there are many states a contract with private prison companies to hold maximum custody prisoners. it is sort of a different ballgame in civil detention. it is not supposed to be punishment. they are just holding people while they are going through immigration. caller: john, are you still with us? caller: yes. host: i want to ask about your experience in private prisons. caller: i was in for a personal experience. i know others in.
host: they were in the prison-building business, in terms of design he? caller: yes, architects that actually build the prisons. people were more concerned and more happy with the fact they were going to get additional revenue in the area than they were with the concern that there can be -- [indiscernible] host: that brings up a good point that maybe carl can talk to. the ending of these private prisons, what is that going to do economically to the communities these private prisons operate in? i am assuming jobs go with that. , there is one town in texas bank, raymondville, already struggling with that after one of these prisons closed down after a riot over back conditions. i think they are in a tough
spot. these communities have invested in mass incarceration, so they put all of their eggs in one basket. if they made a different decision 10 years ago and dust -- and diversify their economies, it would be less difficult. host: eric in new york, independent. caller: it is really good news applied andpressure getting the federal government to divest out of these prisons. i agree that the states will begin to feel that treasure and also divest. i wonder what the aclu's interest might be and other thatte for-profit areas are cooperating with the criminal justice system, such as the services for things like forensic drug testing. i personally had to go to new york state court of appeals to create a new law to have the
right to go to court on the question of a false positive test was used to felony prosecutor me. it is a private contractor. there were cost pressures that were inversely proportionate to the quality of the drug testing that is reported. the courts take these people at face value. they trust in their credentials and the contract they signed another agreements they have made like the new york state department of health and asked them to do this long and testing. all of that failed, and i had to spend seven and a half years going through the appellate structure in new york to create the law. as the aclu going to look at other contracting areas that need to be separated from our taxpayer, civil public systems of a thing like incarceration and supervision? i am: we already are, and
guessing you had to pay for those drug tests. this is a troubling aspect of the way the criminal justice system is operated, especially since the recession. the courts and local officials have decided that they're going to try and fund the criminal justice system on the back of the people who are entangled in it, who are overwhelmingly poor. it is hard enough for somebody to get back on their feet after being released from prison when they have a felony record and are trying to get a job. owe thousands of dollars to the criminal justice system. end up getting locked back in jail because they have not paid off those debts. host: the caller brought up that he was glad that the pressure paid off in his effort. where does the pressure come from? who is driving the political pressure on capitol hill?
prisons, iprivate think this came from a couple sources. advocates,d other along with journalists, have been spending a great deal of effort to expose the abuses inside the private prisons. the department of justice's inspector general has been doing dogged work over the last couple of years examining the private prison contracts and the bureau of prisons monitoring. on top of that, it's happening in the context of an overall overall fall in the federal prison population. in 2013, it peaked at nearly 200,000 people, and now it is less than 195,000. that gives space to be able to cancel these contracts. host: nevada, line for republicans, go ahead. caller: i think we should put these people on work programs. i do not think they should sit there while we pay the bills.
paid an hourly wage, like everybody else, and it should be used to go to pay for their bill. host: what do you think of the proposal? guest: job opportunities inside prison are something that are surprisingly rare, particularly in these private prisons where, as i said, the prison industry's programs are not available. but on the other side of that, there are some serious issues of coercion and exploitation. obviously, if you are working a job inside a prison and your boss is able to throw you in solitary confinement if you call in sick for work one day, that means it is a pretty coercive labor environment. host: from twitter -- who cares whether prisons are ,overnment-run or privately-run
we should use the one that gives us better value for the buck. do private prisons cost less than federally run prisons? guest: the cost evidence is mixed. the inspector general in a recent report found that they cannot do valid cost comparisons. information provided is literally a monthly bill saying you owe us this month. host: another question on twitter. the corrections corporation of america denies ont it lobbies specifically the legislation, but they do spend millions of dollars on lobbying in federal and state governments. you have to ask, what exactly is it they are lobbying for? it would not make sense unless they were doing something that is going to increase their
business. and whether that takes the form of what they described as educating lawmakers or if it takes the form of aggressively lobbying for a particular contract, all of that is going to expand their business. host: we have a line for those private experience with prisons. antoine is calling from fredericksburg, virginia. talk about your experience. it is actually a private, not necessarily a prison, but it is a jail here in fredericksburg. i have issue with the previous caller who said there should be more jobs available. i don't think that's the issue at all. essentially, it's slave labor. like you said, the wages are extremely low. isre is not anything that
beneficial to that situation. i mean, it is a drop in the bucket. ultimately, i really think the issue is that you have private companies that are making it profitable to criminalize people. you have officers going into communities looking for crime where it does not exist, and it is profitable to do that. host: you said this facility was in virginia. there is not a federal private prison in virginia where it was it a state private facility? caller: yes, it's a jail that was private. i'm sure there is also private prisons there, as well. guest: you raise a good point when you talk about the wages being extremely low when you are working inside one of these prisons or jails. those low wages help subsidize the operations of the private prison company and allow them to return more money to their
caller: -- than in the united states. host: why has the inspector general found this was something that did not work? to theit comes down profit motive and lack of accountability and transparency. when you are talking about a government is run by employees, their subject to the freedom of information act. there are no questions about whether or not they can be held liable for their actions when they violate the constitution. it gets much more complicated once you start handing the control of that prison over to a is arofit contractor who nongovernment employee, not subject to the freedom of information act, and who has the profit motive.
this is an important point, because say you are paying $70 -- prisoner per day, it is if it is a government having run prison, all that money goes to actually running the prison. if it is a private prison, the'e company has to skim off a certain amount of that to pay their executives. host: is that $70 per prisoner per day average? guest: that is average in federal prison. host: mike is in cleveland, georgia. independent. good morning. caller: good morning, boss. when they shipped 60,000 factories out of here they put millions and millions of good folks out of work. work isn'tt of paying taxes. if you pick him up off the street and stick him in prison it's worth about $50,000 a year.
they are financially monetizing our children, our families. aggrandizingses of their incomes in these states. if you look at the states, they are welfare states. for the nuclear industry, if it wasn't for the prisons. they have mishandled their funding so badly that they can't survive without a free handout from their government. the whole kit and caboodle of them is absolute dead-end street. there's no -- they talk about giving you a lawyer or something. have pled the people guilty because they know they don't have a chance at any justice. if you have $1 million, $10 million, you can shoot somebody.
do whatever you want and walk stone cold away from them. this is nothing but exploitation of the poor folks in this country who have nowhere to go. host: mike brings up several different points. which one do you want to take on? guest: one of the points he is raising is that private prisons themselves as being a form of economic development. it's something that in addition to being morally reprehensible to profit from locking people up, the idea that throwing people in prison for long periods of time is a jobs program is just insane. society would be better off if we took that money and instead of paying people to work in private prisons, paid them to dig ditches and fill them back up again.
host: we have a line for those who have experience with private prisons. elizabeth is on that line. good morning. tell us about your experience. caller: i have been to be kec when the private prison system took over. at the time i was working as a nurse. i decided tok over go into security and was a prison guard. i was a nurse for five years and a prison guard for eight years. working for gdc. host: is that the texas department of corrections? caller: yes. institution division. that i experienced in the medical
part when that private prison situation came over. that they took nonviolent prisoners and sent them to the private prisons. host: why did they get less care? what was different? they took inmates that would not be medium maximum. host: did they not need as much care? caller: they were just well behaved inmates. less likely to get into riots and stuff like that. host: was it a good thing to
separate the lower-level inmates to the private prisons? do you think that was the right move to make? caller: no i do not. mainly because when they took those inmates out all they did was fill the prisons of more -- to bee with more people incarcerated. it was like they were just moving the good ones out so they could put more in. host: did it make your job more dangerous? caller: it was much more dangerous when that happened. sure did. in the medical was not being given the care that they were given when tdc actually had it.
i don't know why it affected that, but the inmates were not taken care of like they were before. when the private prison system took over. host: thanks for talking about your experience, elizabeth. guest: you raise a really good point about the cherry picking of prisoners by the prison companies. oftentimes in their contracts they have clauses that allow them to reject prisoners who have complicated or expensive medical conditions or who are difficult to manage in other ways. them spend less money on the people that they have because they are selecting who they have in their custody and sending all of the people who are more difficult to deal with off to the public prison. host: why would the federal government make that deal in this contract? --st: this is something that
i think you would probably have to ask the government contracting folks but it happens at both the state and federal level. there is a researcher who examined this in the california prison system. it leads to significant demographic differences were all of the younger prisoners who have fewer health conditions and are easier to manage end up in the private prisons and the public prisons and up caring for the people who are much older, who have chronic diseases and they end up having to pay to treat those conditions and the private prisons don't. host: on the line for those who have experience with private prisons. reginald is an independent. good morning. caller: i'm having an event on the september the fifth.
texas after slavery was over they came up with a new device where they leased all of the prisons. lease called the convict system. it was a private institution. after 1867 we are still leasing them out the same way. that is slavery by another name. we are just letting you know leasing is in texas and they are closing down prisons as we speak. one of the private cemeteries they were releasing after authorization of the state. they need restitution -- host: reginald, how did you get
involved in this issue? caller: i was a correctional officer. i worked in the prison system in 85 through 88. i saw when the crack epidemic came in and the prisons exploded. we had approximately 20 prisoners and we went from 20 to over 100. that's when it started exploding. they made a profit off of them by doing certain jobs for the private sector when they had the incarceration boom. that is when they started becoming a commodity and started selling on the stock market the same way they did when they were slaves on the slave market. host: are you still in corrections? caller: no sir.
i'm an activist now and a retired longshoreman. trying to getist some kind of apology from the state. host: carl takei. guest: thank you for bringing in this historical context. the convict lease system sprang up after the civil war in states of the former confederacy. historicals the ancestor to the modern private prison industry. would round up newly freed black men who were looking for work, convict them of vagrancy or other black code type offenses, and hand them over to private companies who would in exchange for being able to basically re-enslave them and get free labor out of them, paid
for the housing and security. essentially running a prison labor camp on behalf of the state. host: sarah has been waiting in florida. a democrat. good morning. caller: good morning. i had a question about the -- >> thank you all for coming out. and thank you for being part of a movement that's going to put america on the right track again. you know the american people are right. they are right consistently if you just listen to them. they want a lawful system of immigration that serves the national interest. what's wrong with that? promised politicians for 30 years they are going to
fix this system and have never done it. and donald trump will build a wall and fix it. [applause] well, this movement is dealing with a lot of issues. but there is another issue and that's jobs and wages. if you bring in more workers than we have jobs for, don't we reduce wages and make americans unemployed? that's one of the things that's why wages have declined significantly. that closeade deals high-paying manufacturing facilities. doesn't that eliminate good jobs and result in lower wages for the average american out there today? it absolutely does and donald trump understands both of those. he stood up for you. he stood up for america against to advocatehment for reform in both of those
areas. [cheers] [cheers] let me ask you one more thing. if you believe like overwhelmingly americans do that the country is on the wrong track, that changes need to be made, as i believe, and you believe, do you believe hillary clinton has the will, the strength, the determination or the knowledge to change this country? [booing] that is exactly right. she thinks things are fine as they are. much less having the will or the determination to take on this powerful establishment that has run our country too long. we need a strong person with clear values who will stand and fight for us and donald trump that person in my opinion. [applause]
now friends, that's kind of how i came to decide early on to support donald trump. and i believe what i have seen of him in the last few days as we have traveled together and seen cold start moving significantly in his direction. the big crowds that are occurring. like this one all over the country. don't tell me something isn't happening. something big is happening. the people -- [applause] the people are taking their country back. and well they should. our next speaker is a man that is very close to donald trump. they have known each other for many years. rudy giuliani. [applause]
rudy giuliani. america's mayor. come on out, rudy. right. let me just say, he is one of the greatest law enforcement officers in the history of the american republic. i have the honor to serve under him in the reagan administration and he knows more about how to safea nation, a sitting than anybody in this country -- a city safe than anybody in this country. welcome our mayor, rudy giuliani. [applause] >> thank you very much. thank you. thank you.
you just heard from one of the most knowledgeable and one of the best united states senators that we are lucky to have not just for the state of alabama but for the whole country. there are not too many that understand the issues and fight hard for the people like jeff sessions. let's give him a big hand. [applause] jeff since hewn was a little boy. just like i have known donald trump for 28 years and can tell you what kind of man he is. man that they are viciously attacking on television. he's a very very good man. who has built a tremendous empire, financial empire. still respect immensely the carpenter, the
bricklayer, the plumber. [applause] his father taught him that and he never forgot it. he knows that his success didn't come just because of him. he knows it came by building a great team. from the person who is the entry level employees to the very best executives. that's how he built what he built. and by the way he was the first person in the construction industry to appoint women to high executive positions. [applause] he is a man who has brought up a wonderful family and you have gotten to see them and you have gotten to know them. that tells you an awful lot about what kind of man he is when you see his children and what they are like. and it tells you a lot and i'm going to tell you over the 28,
29 years i have known him i have mostly been involved in law enforcement in one way or another. even being mayor of new york was kind of like law enforcement. right? so i'm surrounded by police officers. trumpery time donald comes up to see me, whether we are having dinner or on a golf course, the first people he says hello to our my police officers and they all love him. they love him. [applause] he has the right values. and he is exactly the right man for the time that we have now today. god has been very good to america. we should say that humbly and we should say that every morning that we get up that we are so lucky that god made it so that we were born in the united states of america.
[applause] [usa! usa! usa!] you're darn right. want to -- i want to say something for the media that is covering this. [booing] do you think that hillary clinton could produce a crowd with this kind of enthusiasm? [applause] one really of only enthusiastic crowd that would gather for hillary clinton. a grand jury. [applause] would i love to present that case. now they would have enthusiasm. [applause] i mean --
lock her up!] going to beat're her. because unfortunately the department of justice that i served for more of my life than i heldnything else -- the lowest position and one of the highest positions in the justice department and i love the department of justice. i gave a lot of my life to it. prosecuted the mafia. prosecuted colombian drug cartel people. prosecuted wall street criminals. prosecuted corrupt politicians of both parties, republican and democrat, by the way. i gave a lot of my life to the justice department and my justice department now i am embarrassed of and i believe it
has been made into a disgrace by their refusal to handle the case against hillary clinton like they would handle the case against you. [applause] this -- i am more than willing to predict when the history of written, the scandal you are watching unfold is going to be like the teapot dome scandal in the 1920's and maybe bigger. it's going to be bigger than watergate. nixon had to leave office and he did a lot of bad things, but it wasn't raking in millions and millions of dollars through a phony charity. [booing] i'm not sure how much money was involved in the teapot dome, but i bet it could not have been
much more than the hundreds of millions of dollars the clintons have been getting and turning the state department into a pay for play operation. [booing] the 20's and in the couldn't destroy e-mails. because there were no e-mails. and i guess next and just wasn't as shrewd as hillary. he never destroyed those tapes. destroy the tapes. he kept them. you know what the clintons must be saying? wasat a jerk that next and -- nixon was." you really want to be a criminal, you destroy the evidence. for someone who has grown up in law enforcement, i am outraged at what i see. i am outraged at what i see. crime after crime after crime
after crime. these are not just unusual things that she did. these are not just stupid things that she did. these are not just accidental things that she did. this is a woman who has committed numerous numerous serious federal felonies. [booing] she has lied under oath. she has lied to the public. and i have no doubt she lied to the fbi. exposed, she exposed to all of our enemies some of the most secret information that we possess, which is the reason why it's redacted now. and even a senator like senator
sessions can't get to see it because it's so secret. she exposed that on her server for china, for russia, for iran. for al qaeda. for isis. or for any good hacker to get. and she put the lives of american operatives in jeopardy by doing that. [booing] fbi,irector of the although i disagree with his conclusion, i believe she should have been indicted. i agree with his findings. which is that she was extremely careless in handling top-secret information. asked toe are being elect as our president someone who is extremely careless in handling national security information? [booing]
do they think we're stupid? yes. yes, they do. the clintons have always thought we were stupid. because we let them get away with it before. this is like a bad child and you don't punish them for their first crime. and they commit -- what they were doing back in arkansas, woah man. with the law firm. he's the governor. you have to go to the law firm to get a contact with the state. everybody in arkansas who it. everybody in arkansas knew it. and a compliant press. [booing] didn't cover it the way it should. and they got positive reinforcement. so what they were doing in arkansas, that was like minor league baseball compared to
where they are now. now they are in the major-league's. now they are getting $30 million to make money laundering. million fromr $50 dictators in countries in which women are not allowed to drive, in which women are not allowed to a in public dressed the way they want, in which women are oppressed. and she's a feminist? give me a break. [booing] you want to prove to me you are a feminist, hillary, give the money back. [applause] , you give the money back for all of those speaking fees from the misogynists who pay them to you. what a bunch of phonies. wow.
you literally as i analyze this with new revelations day after day after day, you literally can't tell where the clinton foundation ends and the justice department begins. you want something from the state department, you pay a lot of money to the clinton foundation. you throw in a big speaking fee for bill. and then you get from the state department what you want. you get the meeting with the ambassador to lebanon. you get hillary to intervene with the internal revenue service so that thousands and thousands and thousands of identities the government was seeking from switzerland are not sent. she directly intervened in that case. that alone is a federal felony. intervening in an irs investigation.
all by itself is a federal felony and she traveled to geneva and committed it. not this justice department because this justice department is a disgrace. [booing] it has a different standard for her because she is the democratic nominee for president. now let's talk about donald trump. [applause] so here's what he's going to do. he's going to change direction. she's more of the same and wors e. believei'll tell you, i deep down somewhere barack obama ying, why did i ever appoint her secretary of state? i have a lot of disagreements
with barack obama's policies. i think his foreign-policy has been terrible trip i think his domestic policy and obamacare have hurt us dramatically. i think he's an essentially honest man. [booing] i do. i do. [booing] ok. we can disagree. i know that the clintons are not essentially honest. and i think he is sitting there saying, boy, i ruined my legacy by appointing her secretary of state. because when the history of this is written, it's going to be overshadowed by the hillary clinton pay for play state department and what she did. donald trump will change that. he will change the. at. he will make sure that he appoints people to office who they promise that they are not going to do something as she
did, don't do it. they will not be people who need the job. they will be people who are the best people for the job. [applause] he will bring jobs back. nobody, nobody in this country knows better than donald trump how to create more and better jobs. administration, this administration has presided over an economy in which we have lost jobs, we have lost people from the workforce, even the people who have jobs haven't seen a raise in eight years or nine years or 10 years. and there are reasons for that. and here's how donald trump is going to change it. first he's going to renegotiate our trade deal so they are favorable to the united states of america. [applause]