tv Director Jonathan Jarvis Discusses National Parks Service Centennial CSPAN August 25, 2016 2:19am-3:21am EDT
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[captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016] >> coming up on c-span, national park service director jonathan jarvis on the agency's 100 anniversaries and then a look on welfare reform 20 years later. and then a discussion on the u.k. following the brexit vote. thursday is the 100th anniversary of the national park service and to mark the occasion president obama designated woods national in maine as a monument. here's a video that the white house tweeted out. president obama: hey, everybody.
celebrate and find free admissions. note the special emoji created for people using the #snps100 and frind your park. the senator from montana with this tweet, enjoying national yellow stone park with cindy today. glacier park tomorrow. celebrating national parks centennial. and he took the opportunity to share an article from the citizen's times and are calling for $232 million in repairs to the great smoky mountains the national mountains that divides tennessee and north carolina. american history tv will be marking the 100th anniversary of the national park service at 7:00 p.m. eastern that's on c-span 3. we'll be live at the robert e. lee memorial at the arlington cemetery to discuss new
conservation and preservation challenges. >> next, national park service director jonathan jarvis speaks about the agency's work to preserve the public lands over 100 years. this event was hosted by the national press club. it runs an hour. >> good afternoon. our guest today is jonathan jarvis. i'd like to welcome our public radio and c-span audiences. and you can follow the action on twitter using the #npclive.
now it's time to introduce our head table guests. i would like for you to stand briefly. please hold your applause until i finish introducing the entire table. from your right, dylan brown a eporter from "d.n.e. publishing. and vmple p.n. maria resio. ill shafrof president of the c.e.o. foundation. the honorable john wearn, former sicktary of the navy and former senator of the common wealth of virginia. [applause] skipping over our speaker for
just a minute. kukrow. tom crossen, the chief of public affairs for the national park service. del wilbur a reporter at the "los angeles times." april slaton, assistant director of commune igs cases at the national park service -- director of communications at the national park service. thank you all. [applause] 40 years ago our speaker put on the uniform of a national park service seasonal and interpretive ranger and went to work on the national pal. it was a mere 60 years old. late they're month the parks service turns 100. and jonathan jarvis is still wearing the green and gray uniform. e has the hat. jarvis is the leader of 22
employees to protect the system of more than 100 national markets units across 50 states, the district of the columbia and most u.s. tertories. -- territories. it faces to balance the needs while demanding the agency do more. backlog with more visitors and volunteers. adapting to climate change including the loss of glazers, coastline and habitats. addressing sexual harassment of the grand canyon and other parks. dealing with mining in proximity parks. he's worn just about every hat even though every hat looks alike. hee been the regional director and now director. i'd also like to thank director
jarvis who agreed last fall to come to the new inauguration. that was before we knew about the storm that crip led washington. he showed hid grit and came to the inaugural. today we have better weather. this is the first time in the national press club, the park service director hazardsed the club. please welcome to the press club podium jonathan jarvis as he tell us of his plans for the centennial year of the national park service. [applause] jonathan: well, welcome, everybody. thank you, tomy. it's great to be back in a little warmer weather than the last time we were here. and thank you, rod for organizing this as well and senator, thank you for joining us this morning. as was mentioned this year the national park service with will be 100 years old and i would
have served for 40 of those years some of i have a few opinions about the second century. let me start with an excerpt from the atlantic magazine. the president wanted all the freedom and solitude possible while in the park. other newspaper men and strangers were exclude. even the secret servicemen in his position and private secretaries were left at gardener. he craved to bay lone with nature. he was evidently hungry for the wild and the aboriginal, a unger that drives him to his trip to the west. he stated he wanted to go alone. his security detail very naturally did not quite like that idea. no, said the president, put me up a lunch and let me go alone. ly surely come back. and back he came. it was about 5:00 when he came down the path from teast the camp. it came out that he had tramped
about 18 miles through very rutch country. he came back looking as fresh as when he started and at night sitting before the big campfire related hised a vepchures. this is john burrow's account of traveling with teddy roosevelt in the spring of 1930. in 2013, 14r7810 years later, i was hiking out of the same yellow stone wilderness with my son ben. we were descending an open forest on a rock stream slope when the ground began to shake. and over the hill right behind us charged a stampeding herd of bison. we jumped behind the large boulder and the fury creatured thundered past so fast i could have run my finger through their manes. i have the privilege to not vonl some pretty wild experiences but to sort of put them in context. and think for a moment if all of you think for the moment that this nation decided 100 years
ago that such extraordinary places like yellow stone could be set aside for the enjoyment of future generation, that concept that you and i can have a similar experience that teddy roosevelt had over 100 years ago. mather who was a borax company director absorbed the deteriorating of the park and he wrote a let tore franklin lane. and secretary lane respond, dear steve, if you don't like the way the parks are being run, come down to washington and run them yourself. [laughter] now, i would imagine such challenges have launched many careers here in washington. so in order to work the establishment of the national park service. mather knew that he got the
right people they would become converts. so on july 14, 1915, mather thered the mather mountain party and he led them for a two-week trip into the high sierra. it included writers, the viss president of the southern pacific railroad, the congressman on prope ration, the president of the society and the congress of the nufmente it happen photograph officers and businessmen, california state engineer and gilbert grovener. there was one park ranger and two chinese cooks. the chinese cook was considered the best camp cook in the west. and he proved that every day with dinners for these folks of soup, salad, fried chicken, venson and grave yes, potatoes, apple pie and hot sour dough biscuit on the side of a sweaty
mule that was laboring up the sequoian w today as camp. for two weeks they revelled under a star-lit sky. cunningly mather let the mountain do their major and the trappings sort of swept away and bonds were formed not only with each other but with the land. and each night around the fire they talked about conservation and the future of the national parks. in that fire bond fire night as told by one of the travelers, mather said, well, we've had many glorious days together and i should confess why i wanted you to come. not only for your interesting company but to hope that you'd see the significance of these mountains and the whole picture of what we're trying to do. hopefully you will take this
message and spread it to the land in your own avenue and style. these valleys and heights of the sierra nevada are just one smart part of the majesty of america. although se quoy yeah and yellow stone and glazer and craret lake were already set aside, just think of the vast areas that should be preserved for the future. think of the grand canyon not yet protected or the wornedes of our territories in alaska and hawaii. he said, unless we can protect the areas currently held with a separate government agency, we may lose them to selfish interests. and that evening every member of the party vowed to go back and provide the ack of support to the accomplishment of the national park service. bill grovener vowed that the national geographic society that they would march instead. and he published in april of 1916 an entire issue "the land of the best: a tribute to
america." the press coverage was quite extraordinary and it influenced congress when it dime a vote of the accomplishment of the national park service 100 years ago. this year, the national geographic society devoted every issue in 2016 to some aspect of the parks and on the 100th anniversary release their full issue yellow stone battles for the west. and by the way the media coverage for the n.p.s. centennial has been unprecedented. i believe we're now over 8 billion media impressions. so thank you all for all the coverage we've gotten. we cannot take the future conservation for granted. we must use the magic of our parks and public lansdz to inspire and empower a new generation of conservation and historic preservation. in many ways this centennial year has been a national mather
mountain party. by inviting every american to find their park, that place that personally inspires them, rejuvenates them and builds some patriotic pride and without the least bit of centennial, our goal has been to create our next supporters for the public land if we don't then in the words of my predecessor director mather, we may lose them to selfish interest who call for our parks and public lands to be developed for short-term private gain. i want each of you for the moment take a little bit of patriotic pride that our nation created this idea of national parks and today that system bodies our highest ideals, our most symbolic places and stands frankly as the best national park system in the world. they also tell the american story through place.
412 worthwhile places, places like the statue of liberty or mount rushmore, places like osemite or the grand tecons, places of social conscience like film at the montgomery or the home of fredrick douglas. place of great ecological restoration or returning the everglades. they are places of great history like fort mchenry, national historic site where our star-spangled banner yet wave and insire expired francis scott key to write it. and there are place of great public heath. the father of landscape architecture fredrick said, after a visit to yosemite said that if we pursue our business lives without the occasional contemplation of nature, parks and parks that men and women i
would and this is a quote be proud to a class of disorders including softening of the brain, nervous excitability, me me land colony. i'm wondering if people need prick first the parks. there's the social action like the steps of the lincoln memorial where in 1939 just as hitler invaded europe, marion anderson denied a venue because of her race saying my country tis of thee to a crowd on the mall. and dr. martin luther king delivered the "i have a dream" speech there. you go to that spot and stand in that very foot steps of dr. king. you know there are sentiments of dr. king's speech that speak to
different people in different ways. i particularly find a connection to this closing when he called to freedom to ring from every mountain side and reaped the line from "my country tis of thee." land where my father's died, land of the pilgrim's pride. these are parks and public lands that the bells of freedom are calling us to come and experience the healing, educational and transformative powers of nature and history. they are also ringing the bells of freedom and justice respect truth and calling us to live up to the values of our nation. the national park service is unlike any other federal agency. we serve not only as stewardess of the nation's greatest landscapes but keepers of its culture memory and recognizing
that the narrative is not just one narrative but many and means telling the story in its entirety. when i became director in 2009 with the encouragement of many individuals in this administration and from the outside as well,er we recognized that there are gaps in the american narrative as told by the national parks. and we must recommend to the president new designations to fill those gaps, to realize the inclusiveness and equality that had been part of the american vision. we needed to start from the beginning. one summer day in 1619, a ship appeared off what was known as port comfort. an english fort overlooking the chesapeake bay, that chip later became to be known as the african may flow ber because they carried the first enslaved africans to the colony. point comfort had become the union strong hold, the only union fort to stand south of the
mason-dixon linebacker. in the middle of the night three escaped slaves looked if sanctuary. butler was at the command and when southern slafe owners demand for the return of their property, butler refused. he said they were confederate contraband and could be fonfiss kated by union troops. this became known as the contraband decision. and president abraham lincoln spent the evening with butler probably over a brandy or two and traded their legal views. lincoln inspired with their own legal theory and pinned the first emancipation proclamation. they were the first slaves freed in the civil war. marks the begin
of slavery. on december 1st, president obama designated portland row and made it part of the national park system. during its struggle for independence in colonial castle, e in new delaware, this nation set itself on a course unprecedented in the world. it was here that delaware ratified the constitution, the first place to do so and asserted that turned laws of this new nation we were creating inalienable rights and president obama designated it as a par of the national park system. nearly 100 years after delaware ratified it, we were still a long way from liberty and justice and vision by the founding fathers. no one knew this better than harriet tubman who for 12 years and a great personal risk repeatedly led future slaves
into secret places of the tide water region and into the underground railroad. napped march 2013, president obama designated harriet tubman a national mon you yfment a generation later, charles young was a rarity at west point in the 1880's. he was only the third african-american to raise to the economy. nonetheless his distinguished career took him from that famous calvary unit known as the but low soldiers to the philippine insurrection to the pursuit of pancho via. he served as the superintendent of sequoia when the u.s. buffalo soldiers looked over our national park. and in march 5, 2013, president obama designate it as part of our national park system. george pullman of chicago
decided in 1862 on a news business model to lease new cars that could be coupled to the fleet of train ace cross the country as we entered the 20th century. pullman staffed those quars african-americans especially the descendants of slaves because he felt they would be the most subservient. he trained them. gavethem a living wage and them a code of conduct. er he emphasized education and their children and seeded the growth of the black middle-class. they were also organized bay young phillip randolph and were part of the railroad strike and created labor day. the organization skills would be applied to the civil rights movement that swept the nation in the 1950's and 1960's. and on fen 19, 2015, president
obama designated created pullman national mon youment. all of us know that the struggle for self-rights has not just been limited to african-americans but to others who are been discriminated against because of the collar of their skin. 75 years ago next year, the outset of world war ii, president franklin d. roosevelt 9066. executive order to be right nowed fwip military and 'em prison and hastily crucked. given on a few days over 120,000 people most of whom were left behind zens most of their worldly possessions. they were trance pored to remote locations like owens valley of california.
the plain of idaho and a bug infested goach in hawaii. reck miesing the tragedy of racial profiling and injustice during wartime and its relevance to today. president obama designated it as a part of the national park system. from the social upheafl of the 1960's along with dr. martin luther king jr., another figure rose to carry the banner of civil rights. chavez fought for the exploited workers in lipino central central. in twage, to immortalize this man's work, president obama inaugurated cesar chavez national monument. here in washington, a group of women led by aless pole and belmont said that the
opportunity granted should be applied to the other 50% of the population who were female. there, the national's women's party drafted and helped pass hundreds of pieces of legislation that changed the status of women in america. and in april of 2016, president obama designated the belmont women's equality national monument here in d.c. and on june 28th, 1969 at stone wall in and greenwich village in new york city, it shaped the model of the lgbt community. the police constructed a raid that often resulted in harrisment and arrest. the crowds hel held their ground in demanding civil rights and refused to disperse. the protest expanded neighbors streets and into the neighbor street and grew as far as
several thousands of people. and it marked a sig -- significant turning point. lgbt people have formed groups in almost every major city. and president obama decemberic nated stonewall in national monument as par of the national park system. these nine new national mon youments represents people who believed in the aspirations of country.-- where they acted upon their spirit. they will inspire future generations, carry on the message that the blessings of liberty must be defended from all threats whether they are external or from within. our mission is a froms america that we will keep not only its sacred places but the memory of its most defining moment.
a few moments ago or a few months ago, i shared the dais with the poet laurt of the national park sent ten y'all dr. laura sanchez. she reminded us all about truth. i i cannot tell the truth about anything unless i confess being a student, growing and learning something new every day. the more i learned the clearer my view of the world becomes. so i invite a of you here with the president and all of you out there in our country to come to the national parks and gain a clear view of the world. thank you. [applause] >> thank you, director jarvis. we have a lot of questions. thank you for not making it the national park.
>> that's the in the future. >> you talked about new designations and you talked about the challenges of the maintenance backlog. the first question i have to ask you is with all the added designations the new areas -- hundreds of thousands of acres added to your por folio. does that benefit the park service? >> so the fleach we've taken in adding new units, and let me clarify we're up 22 new units since i came on as the director in this administration that is both through congress and through presidential act under the anticities act in most cases we have in almost every case we have minimized our footprint. the actual amount of land or resource that we need to take care of and we have tpwhrouth through particularly the work of the national park foundation philanthropic partners to assist with that and have been quite
successful at raising opponents. so on one hand, it does add to our overall responsibility, but i think we've been very judiciously insuring i does not add to our maintenance backlog. >> so how are you going to tack that backlog? we're seeing the 100-year anniversary. we have outdated bridges and trails. how are you going to tack that $12 billion backlog? . jonathan: we understand our maintenance backlog. we really, really know this down to the brick. so about half of our backlog is in the what i would calling the transportation side and that is the road and bridges piece. that is not an easy thing to raise philanthropic money for. that's something that's the business of appropriate ray tors
and we do get a significant a of funding out of the transportation bill and there is to address bill roads and bridges in the national park ssm the other is or about half of that or what i call high prirpte assets. theas are directly related to the experience. the lincoln memorial might ban asset that you would consider a high priority asset in some contributions ce and we have significant contributions to repair those as well. as wn we have a campaign to address many of those issues. but we are also going to need a steady supply of federal appropriations and we have asked congress to respond to that. we have centennial legislation before them that would give us
creator flexibility with our existing revenues sh and generate new revenues. >> we'll talk about the public partner, public, private partnerships in some form. how do we insure that we don't end up with the exxon tram or the disney trail of some sort? with these partnerships how do you avoid the situation where congress says you have this private money for corporations, we don't need to give you as much? jonathan: first of all, as a young woman here spoke to me earlier and talked to me about the radio industry, we have always had relationships with corporate america from the very beginning of the national parks, was the railroads that built most of the major lodges like the el tavar and others that you're familiar with. and throughout my 40 years, we've had long-term relationships with corporate
america without selling out, without renaming or this park brought to you by -- we just don't do that. we sit down with corporate america and say what are your goals, these are our goals. this is an area you can't go. and we're not going to allow hat. it's not the direction we're heading. we're trying to modernize our philanthropic capable both for the service and the national park foundation and all of the friends group. >> the second par of that is what if congress looks at that and says, hey, you're getting a lot of money from corporate america. we don't need to give you as much. jonathan: we've always defined a bright line between what philanthropic support is whether it's corporate or individual or foundation. and what is the responsibility
of the federal taxpayers of the u.s. appropriations process. we feel that the basic operation of the national park is the responsible of the appropriators. and philanthropy it gives us that margin of excellence on top of. hat >> what do you do to widdle down that backlog? >> we have a free program. we raise about $220 million a year in our fee program. we have the authority to retain all of that money in the national park service, a fee collecting park retains 80%. 20% is pulled for the nonfee parks. we would never be able to run the parks on our national fee
programs. we never want our fees to be so high that they exclude some component of the american public. parks are for everyone, not just for the rich and the elite. they were created like this in this country. in europe where some of our ancestors came from where some of those places were here just for the rich. we will always keep our fees low nough. so in 2009, i put a moratorium on fee increases and i retained that until 2015 some of we froze fees at the current level and in 2015, i allowed the national parks across the system to consider and to go into public comment period for fee increases and we did allow some to increase but we'll probably hold
it there for a while. as you do implement a fee program. pushback. i don't have a plan to have that soon. >> i always note at this moment that the general public is allowed at our luncheons here at the press club -- if you hear applause it's not necessarily from the journalists covering it. i did have a question i don't have in front of me from a senior that's a little concerned that you might raise the golden path. is it still $10. jonathan: it shows my age. i have one of these. it is the senior pass. it is i would say it is a little undervalued. but this price was set by congress. i don't have the authority to change it.
we do have a proposal before congress to influence this past. it should be lifetime, but to make it equal to the american the beautiful pass, which is $80. you pay $80 months for life. between $10 and $80 would generate $35 million for us because we sell a lot of these. that would all be used for the maintenance on the back lot. >> this is a good question from the audience. for most of the parks service 100 years, support for congress and preserving wilderness and other unique national wonders was strong and bipartisan. in recent years, that has unraveled. how is the park service going to repair the that political rift? why is there a political rift? >> i will probably get in trouble for telling this story, but when i go on the hill regularly to meet with members of congress, there has been historically, bipartisan support
for the national parks. a long tradition of great support on both sides of the aisle. sometimes, different priorities. testify before a committee, there is a lot of finger-pointing and accusations made about the national parks, but when i go in the office, certain individuals get other part pass and want me to sign it and they tell me their latest national park trip story. issue, i mean, in my estimation is that there is a sort of a political agenda around that nothing in government is good. and it is hard to admit that if you say that, there is this aspect of government that they actually like, which is the national parks. what we have been trying to do through the centennial is reintroduced ourselves to the
american people, the ones who don't necessarily know who we are. they don't know the depth and breath of the worth we compete and translate that into support across the aisle, something we enjoyed for our first 100 years and would certainly help to enjoy in our second 100. >> i am not going to ask you to name those members of congress. [laughter] >> what are you doing as part of the celebration to control the overcrowding that we can see at some of the national parks? >> we are experiencing record levels of visitation as a result of the centennial, the find your park campaign, our outreach to the media coverage, all of that. this last year, 2015, the last year we kept records. visitors.312 million let me put that into perspective
. that is more than all of disney, more than all of national football, national baseball, national baseball, soccer, nascar combined. [applause] >> and we do it on the budget of the city of austin, texas, which you did fact checke and that is correct. the way i view this is that when the public come to national parks, something happens. yes, it can be somewhat overwhelming for our employees sort of thet state-of-the-art right now, but you are deepening that connection and that connection translate into support. ,s a volunteer, as an advocate through our variety of advocacy groups out there. support to congress. is an, i think there
upside to the visitation. and it also is inviting a generation that perhaps did not know about these places. our goal is not to just raise the numbers, but increase the diversity of that visitation as well. >> thank you, sir. what is in the works to try and keep the energy and excitement of the parks going past a this centennial. >> we have been having a lot of discussions about what do we do when we blow out the candles? there has been a huge push and i know many of my staff are like "whew, we are through." to, as ihas been said, to connect with this next generation and inspire them. and i think the next phase is bring the them to
concept of conservation, historical preservation back into their own communities, within their own social networks, to give them the tools and the power to execute on that from what they have learned about the national parks as well. we many of the initiatives have launched, the studies around the contributions made by latinos, women, acidic islanders, lgbt, will be carrying on into the next administration and we will be looking for new sites that recognize that as well. i don't see a lot of this stuff just ending. >> speaking of, the new smithsonian for african-americans it's opening up a mall very soon. is there an effort now to try to educate visitors about such milestones, such history at national parks, especially around the washington or northeast corridor. >> education has always been a core of our mission. we like to say, come to the
national parks, have a good time and learn something at the same time. and as danny would say, don't fall down either. [laughter] >> yes, absolutely, a partnership with the department of education, programs we have created like, "teacher, ranger, teacher." we have a curriculum we have developed around, whether it is plate tectonics or civil rights or endangered species, you can learn something at the national parks. and in some ways, it might actually stick with you a little bit longer than if you had learned it in a classroom. question is in particular interest to my home state of utah, but what does the park service think about turning over federal land to some western states. some think this could open up the lands to federal mining and drilling and some states think they could manage these lands better. >> i think we need to step back
and look at the portfolio of how states were established and the goals of establishing really, the four big land management agencies. there are four that manage on behalf of the american people. they are the national park service, the bureau of land management, the u.s. forest service, and we each have a different mandate. particularly, the forest service and the blm have a multiple use mandate and they provide for energy development, timber, as well as the u.s. forest service as well. they are already working landscapes and benefiting the entire american people, not just one specific state. and so, i think we have to think very, very hard about retaining the public land of state and national parks as well for the
benefit of all the people and not just those within one state boundary. >> do you have a specific reaction to some states who say they can manage the land better than the federal government can? >> i have a lot of friends at the national association of estate part directors, -- of the state park directors, and many of them are struggling financially. they have lost a lot of state legislative appropriations as well. i would say that the public land of state is being well-managed and would continue to be best managed under the federal government. >> let's switch gears. there were a number of high-profile cases of animal attacks this summer, the alligator killing a baby at the disney beach in florida, for example. what message do you have for people visiting wildlife this summer, and for rangers over singh recreational opportunities that involve wildlife?
-- and for rangers overseeing recreational opportunities that involve wildlife? > >> the thing about wildlife is that they are wilds. the public know that the bison laying down over there is not tame, it is not behind a fence, and it can out run a horse. there are risks in these mild places -- in these wild places. we want the public to be educated and learn how to experience them, which can be a fantastic an incredible experience to be in those environments, but there is a risk element. >> florida officials said recently they were investigating 10 cases of locally transmitted thzika virus. as the summer continues, do you see a threat of the virus
spreading to the point where you have to close some parks in the southern united states? >> we have not gotten to the point where we are considering closure, but we think it will be a significant problem at the southern tier parks. the everglades, thithe southern tier parks that have large mosquito populations. not particular species is really a species that breeds in the waters of the everglades, it is much more of the human contact species. that we have been working with the center for disease control and prevention specifically on information for the public, and information for our own employees that work in that environment as well. >> there is only one jamestown in america. why is the administration of pushing back on dominion powers to build massive transmission lines? >> i know was question that was. [laughter]
question thate was. [laughter] >> i will tell you one thing, i am pushing back really hard on it. you are absolutely right. there is only one jamestown and it should not be marred with a transmission line. >> let's stick on that subject. there is a gas line in close proximity to some parks, the everglades, for example. do you believe seismic testing causes no harm to the everglades' ecosystem? >> i don't think it causes no harm/ i think there can be harm from that type of activity. we are in litigation over that right now. so, we cannot go into the details of that specific case, but it is something that, when we have a split state and individuals have rights to explore that state, it puts us in a bind.
>> on the same subject, what threat does mining, or any threat if at all, does mining pose to the parks system. for example, gold and uranium exploration near yellowstone and the grand canyon. >> as he know, secretary salazar withdrew one million acres adjacent to the grand canyon for a 20 year withdrawal for uranium mining. without getting down in the weeds too deeply, the concept of how you mind for uranium is you drill down and as you do, you penetrate the permeable geologic layers and allow water to filter through. when you stand on the grand canyon and look across, you can see where the water comes out. the potential for uranium mining is tha uranium radioactive ore could move
downstream into the water systems of millions of people and the southern half of the colorado river systems. so, mining on adjacent lands can have significant impact on the national parks. my homestay,om as well as in maine -- this is from my home state, as well as in maine. what assurances can you give local residents accreting a national park would be a benefit to them? >> you know, it is interesting. if you look historically at the establishment for many of these parks, there was always a fight. there was a fight over the grand canyon. ultimately, the president had to use the antiquities act to protect the grand canyon because there were many people opposed to establishment early on. i think if you look at history
and past practice, and i was just recently in seward, alaska. those of you that were around during the alaska land act days, the city of seward passed a resolution, total opposition of the national park. recently, the city council rescinded that resolution unanimously in support of the national park. parks,you look at these even forks, washington, you will see communities that have benefited economically, quality of life, the kids can find work, all of that, from the establishment of national parks adjacent. >> this questioner wants to know, the organization he or she works for is ready to present the parks service with a
petition with over 200,000 signatures with citizens who feel the order number 21 will over commercialized our parks. if you could quickly explain what director's order number 21 is, and when will the final decision be made? >> it is the policy document that governs the relationship with private philanthropy, both corporate, individual, and foundation philanthropy and how that is recognized. i have a citizens advisory board, the national parks advisory board. i commissioned them to give us a state-of-the-art report on how philanthropy is done in this country today, how donor recognition is done. they made a recommendation to me for a revision of the director's order 21, so the parks service could consider a range of options to increase the potential for philanthropy, but
do it in a way that is respectful of the stewardship we have for these places. and they have done so. we have taken public comment on that. we are in the process of finalizing the and we will have directors order 21 completed and signed by the end of the year. >> thank you, sir. tougher questions. on bothof congress sides of the aisle have criticized the parks service for complaints of sexual misconduct, harassment, and other behaviors. what have you done to address those concerns? >> i think most of you know there was an inspector general report relating to the grand canyon river district, where there was a horrible sexual harassment by our parks service employees. we fully recognize and admit to that. there have been other cases that have emerged here most recently in a few other parks around the system. so, a couple things we have done right away to address this.
in the canyon specifically we have a new superintendent on the ground, chris leonard's, the first woman in the history of the grand canyon as the new superintendent. i traveled out there with the secretary last week and introduced her to the staff. she was the former superintendent at golden gate and will do a fantastic job there, first and foremost addressing right in the canyon, how they both root this out and restart of the relationships with the communities and their employees. >> we have engaged a number of other organizations that have been dealing with this, specifically the department of defense, who has had both its own troubled history around harassment and abuse. we have learned a lot from them. first and foremost, we need to establish a baseline of understanding of how prevalent this is in the national park service. i honestly don't know and we are
not going to know until we do a well-crafted survey of all employees. that is done with the protection of anonymity. once we establish that baseline, then we can understand more specifically how to take action. we are jumping on top of any obviously, reports right now. i set a standard with my senior leadership on how i expect implement a zero-tolerance policy, in terms of quick action, protection of the victim, and zero-tolerance for this work, for this horrible act. i will say that our employees will be stepping up once they see that we are taking action. i expect the numbers of reported not that to increase, there are more cases, but i think employees are now feeling more empowered to speak up and step up. i expect that to occur, not only at the national park service, but within other agencies that
have seen what has happened to the park service and are following our lead. >> to follow that up. are there protections and have you communicated those protections to whistleblowers, people who have been victims of this to make your they can raise their concerns above the person who may be stationed above them? >> we are in the process of setting up an anonymous hotline, theh will allow people ability to go around the chain and get immediate response. year, the this interior department of inspector general fall that you personally about writing a book about the national parks. useful that without getting the clearance from ethics officials, even though you were not benefiting financially. why would you not go through the ethics officials to write this book. >> good question. apologized to the
department of interior, to my employees, and to the secretary for that lapse in judgment. 20 hindsight is often perfect. i would ask next time. talk about the effects of climate change on any specific national parks or monuments, and what can be done, if anything, to address those concerns? >> i have said many times that climate change is probably the most threatening aspect to the future of the national parks. we can already see a direct affect on specific parks and i can give you an example. i was the superintendent at mountaineer national park. that cascades right outside of seattle and typically historically, if you look at records or mount rainier there is a lot of snow.