tv Discussion Focuses on U.S.- Turkey Relations CSPAN September 3, 2016 4:25pm-5:26pm EDT
viously, the ypg has not tolly withdrawn yet. the grt fear is that turkey gog wt gfurther, that turkey might nto there, or ght want to go sohwest well below the borde tolo a possibility of the two parts t kurdish-held area linking of. u th iwh the turkish me into jarabulus iabt. iabout blockingheur omei able to link t two salitswhh they currently hold anif they do thabyust staying alg eiboer, it n rk, and the rsoto be skeptaland then the great danger is that the ana of the tuis kurdi btlefield has iny widened a t chaos
sya,e just added another larfaym it. mr. misztal: before we go to esons from theudncha , aru. picy options here? do we ill thk tkeas a countrth we ne, pecially when we e alg threa, but it is a cotrth is not lining up with ourntesan objectives there. it is a country trying tsh us that we neethem more an ey need usand at the same meavg this democratic cris aho. what suld u. prioriebe i meanwhat shoulu. iean, whatbe, - shld u.spriorities be that long list of issu we have with tury,nd maybe, al, given your background,ha shouldongress be thinkin ou mr. makoky: let me talk about policyptnsbeuse a t of times, exeti ideaso come om congress. so regarding syriai ink we
bacally veo find some wa to manage thiselionship because turkeyoereinery importt. it is member of nato there no provision for exllg anyone fm nato, no would we wt . turkey is stratecay located, and it is in our interestoet ong with them as much as ssible ey have, hever, co a problematic ally. i inwead no choice but to try to mage it do thinkusas we ve a ro-btom need for turke they also ha a rocboom needorat whatever theonelti of eir military igog b i thinth are goingo nt to associated with nato rath anitrussia or some other kindf eurasianrouping. reover, we over half of tuey's ade isith the west. i think turk wl ilbe lied strongly to thees b
weilineasingly s a turkeyhatrs to express sovereigy th tt western context. do not think tres mac rma except to try toak re that the turks do not pk a fight thhe kurds, d to ur turkey toitraas soo asosble. noonr-rmi think weo haveo ck witth possibility, again i am not being oitbut we need to reck wh e ssily that rhs unprectle turkey llltimately move outf e stn orbi and we ha t lo ceflyt alternatives e se foranyears -- im sorr im goinon a bit here, but througho t cd war,
tuey's stragivalue tt itadhe longest borr th e viet union sie e ld warits poan w summed up the by the late richardoloo when w assistant secretary f roanffrs in 1994. he said turkey is at the cte ofve iuef importance t thunedtas on the euraanontine. thatas reay enhe rationale wi o ratns withury ncthen. weavto prepare a plan an kindf okor other aas thate n rk on eurasian problems fm. mrmita any suggestio erthat might be? mr. kokyeaern europe certainlhas poibilities. kn there are issues ou r 97rey withussia. am not a lalxpt. t seems to me from e y i re it, there is the
possibily r ses in bulgaria andomiabecause e tuiohachged since 1997. lel authorits d ssn exrtneed tlook at it carelly. in addio wkn the krg, e iraqkus, would love have u. presce ey would be delighd. thk is a ryricky infous to range in the currenciumans, particular wh r baghdad focus. . szl:ic maybe you can talk abo t vuef mocracy, and wt c dto trtotachhe losses er mr. daor: i would giby sang -- cking up on what al sd ithat there is
the uel irony cspac thri about howhenid at ibendhis coup, at rehan anything else in turkey, moreha democratization,orth a pane againstsis what the , united states hacoteon is maiaing a sblance of stability in tury se. d with theoup atmp tt wathe first me wheret tuly seemedike there is the frightening possibitof disruptive, destabiling violence, which s en been rtred by the resgee e r agait e pkk. and e tt kd lki foarisomhi that will prccupy policymakers moran more, is the rl ssibility destabiziowiin turkey. w th that said, there mit be a tendency to lk tt as sera fm the estionf decry. obously, we do not nesri feel that y. therarreal rso to thk that t coup tet iel
wagog to be diupvet , prend e ggest threat tourkey's stability,ut unrtately inevab, er ishe possibityhatue's sponseo e attempt will be in itself destabilizg,ilbe intsf that to demoac d thheouattempt now overth iththreat that turkey ifangnd thehreat that the peoplinhe unid states have toeltuey fac unrtaty, think so r thunedtas,he administrati's meagg has ennconsient. redays after the cou t unit steraed the issue of towg rk out onato cause of the doccy requemts. whh idoesn't and it was not the ialimtori this up. after ising these coerns, in iedte point wre they wereotiky be helpful, a montana lfat, biden nto rkey, this aft
showin sport f turkey fo the past monthth mht hav be t oornity to start rainsome of the ncns, anthvi president sai noinabt any of our coer aut the extent t purgeshawe gng on, about attemp tprece ading kuish politil gus. sohis isoi to be -- e quti tsuort turkish democrizio aa strae and difficulti ian evitab difficult onebuso r e prch has bee muddd enou tt i doot ink its ceary lpg. mrmita thank you. with that lemeurit oveto e dience queio. ea be sure to state your mend affiliation andakit questi. s,n e co r here. >> i am anntesd tin. would someone pln is map ea? mr. misztaur veryuilyheelw areas , are ars thatreurntly
ldy ri kds . koky: byheayi id light green. o pointi was loli. rrabout at. hereas iblk are held by is. the eainreen a hd by ansstmt of syrian rebel groups, and e heareas e he bthsyrianege. the pi os,es the syrianege. ye mr. koky: cod just qukladd? at was trying to illtre the gat turkish concernis athe two kdi salients will link up eith aturkeymmiately feedhroughapref jabulus and then sprdi in the syria borderer or to theou. thk e inwe actuall ha to watch is wth t turkish liryoeinact ve southwe ttrto block mo carly any ph.
mr. misztal: a sfa-- i thk important thi tnote isnef the ass that i believe thturkish milita deded to movishakurdis foesad moved into e euphrates ver ancaptured a to, which -- mrmavsky: withur suprt mrmita with the u.s. asnghem to do this, which mo othtwyellow areas vi closetother. d what youavse ithat turkey has notusstped cauring jarabulus, wchs an is-hd wn th a movinsouth, and the fear ith will fighting noisis, but e ri kds anwe will have alliefiti ea oeratr than fightin r realnemiesn syri yes. >> would lik-- ndceib]
nely dnoage th manyf uromnt let me sreomofy thouts about syria. no hde and [indisrnle it is xewi t p, ic is trostrgizio th he ntuous aess to terrorist gazationin turkey. theres cilarn rkey. kk- [indceib] we believe ware inarership thhe.sinhis fight agait rrism, s coopation pofhawe are resolvedo continue ouright ait rrism in that see. crs wdo not associate ont e rris orgazaon we do t have any good orad teort gazations, we do noha a partn trorist orgazaon so thfit
authorities to aclike that. rk will ntue to be a al of the u. is ay,,t d it wl aal. wexpt the s.o act like at. thk u. . sztal:ha y for yr mmts. over here. mrit. if wcod itorhe crho cinto you. lu: ne ly. i hearhe are so many teortsn rk, but i wod keo ghght one bjt. when lerion of- happed tk so many crice. welshad u. vunteers who joinedhepganth a de rightowanwere itg r em to meack. wavlo of lo as kurd aamerics. and enurkey went to ralu iseemed like mac -- eryindippeared, isis went awa a rhtow is e a huniri csi
chic wpons have ense byheursh govnmt ainst vians. vianha been lled. at is methinth ian you tk abouth. . sztal:ha you. iimrtt highlight couple tng the k a u.sdesigned rrist orniti. e g not. althought welcoided that there a lksetween the two ganization mrmakovsky: ybi llum inuily. e g n ou. terrost li. i coulsewhthturks would see that as a t aiction. e d,itwhh e g is sociated, it is a syanursh polical party that h i ogi ithpkk.
it venat eog. uno it isnderstandable th turkewould e it apa of the p, wer,t s not en attacki turkey, at least t untith rent, ts irmish of colef days ag a wn turk eer jabulus. itaseea very effti fiti fcegainstsis for the it stes anthefe a very iorntarern getting riofsis. its in turkey's test to oicoli wh e g. as forhe jarul teor, ifhait does help tcrte the ciumans r e expulsion is fromyr, it is a great thi.
soo is pointt uld b i thk eris every rsofo tuey to elt lge a sues wh iwoise is sing tuisfoeso ut maybe,e do not kw exactly whatapned, may that s cause kurdh rc wt nort atompot,e expect the ypg wi move t et the euras ve ty oicoli, as the rkh fee nier said tk's te, d turkeyta angtsorr, th ihi it is a plus. wt pps,owerishe ttfid betwn rk a the kurdsilyprdsrom rkey a iq syriath e rkh intervenons intoe seen as a ve ris gaveoryr, for
u.s.ntests, r e gh ait is, anfoulmaly r rk ielf. . miszl:t iornto pot out thats r crent u. sategy cceedth ragywhh s als raqq the is pil in syria, t rd tt pital sposed to be op bth yp a t rd goeso ypg-he triry syan kur he idndhe u.asaith iis not the le for syrn rdtoak raqqa. it is largely sunni ty hangccretake tt city ulste ctiatensio. t r ragys rrtl lyg tinthat rd, so y llout tween s.nd the pg bau o fiti bwe turkish and kurdish rc wlderus
in danger ats e timate goalf s. mison mrmavs: e rkish governntnd theurkish pridt s id -- d is ncwi wt im rr i dinocah ur nam-- >>indiscnie] mrmakovs: do nothi i t rht. 'm o g, bad arg. i thk syncs witwh y idtuey's als t ly to go afr is butlsafr the d. sof ft turkey pursu that goal aggrsilythe are gointoe oblems on many lels, includg t fht agnst is. mr. mita l's seif we haveth qstnsn the audience yes, on thsendow ba tre. brkethk u. ne bok lling fromheast tw comments,'m ndinwh a tue's objectiv isya gog aie? is iwiin t y iba
acsshe eupat? is igog burtherha at is it en isisracad? at what inarthe ow ojt gng to aieved? givehaiteqreth bng syriaonr anss i ghngebs other caon when has hypoetally consodated its power d taisd self a anndurinfoe,ou aad beillingo tertaianidea ofury,f ctiinso sort of conflict in thnoh -- ju cious, rongho questis t. mrmavs: ryrilyyour first queson answers itself. tue's itl al- e u. spo w f t ppo of expelli is,hi has been accomplisd. what woulde thk eafr
evyo's pot vw tt th turshresyanrmy ales -- if they are capae -shoulde e one holdg jabus,ndheurkish mita, if possie,hould widr. thk at wou remova al frti point, thpotentl frti pointetenurkey d e kurd after l,heursh tn is right across the bordefr jabus. tuey could reallruthgs from there ithe fr sian ar is cablof holding ings. gardina teia opatn or claboraon syria, doan not al s ipese as youroblkn, erwas so fhtg tween ri gornment tros and e ypg -- a ltlbioff thma
fuheout in the yellow saen ani ulnorule out ctalooraon agasthe rdift meoi -- if hse that h ierest. h h an unlating laonipith the kus,t tis working moreloselyit emanatim fing off thhe t thk thatou bth lyreofottial llaborion. . szl:ur ithba ere. h ndceib] my questiowod be,here we nyllatnsgast tury, athewere hping is, daish. thissue was avinfr tueyo ri
d w after thidr aist lu do yothk -- becae we he someewan theyreayg at figerof e sue, of is, e gettg into theeb gupthat turkeysuprtgs is , evtuly going tdisappr, or do u inth are going useure d fect eop asel bi: ll jones, amith amstinrnatiol. th inoanmnestyueio t erisuc--t em th wn talk outh tuisar, we' tki abt ems if they rehi unie tetr force. anwh ithste t turkh my do abo kw ts int?
. szl:xcelle question. t'- y gs nt t keho t qstnsan then wha twr u founel mrmavs: y n'i it d enou i llake yo qstn, bil beusits syo swer. i n kw. but i ulsathis -yo knowwh ior yr estion isheacth ith afrmh t coup tet, we over % t fg office, the genelsnd adra othe turkis milita, ve eitr en arrest oreve ats shocki aunof rneror a mity. d i do tnkneey oecve of the incsi io rabulu was to send thmeag wth it is accurater t,erps
ti wl lltoend a meagth t tkish milita is stl mar power in the regn. i ulsay one other in ouit r lo te a this we knownlfr pssepts and thki ogossipe l hear fr o fends and sourc - foa longim erdog had been ierted inheilar movingntsya,ndhe lirytsf appantly had sied it seems psie at l o threstceamfrom liryeadershoreo longerart ofheilitar-- . szl:hich would incle, i wldoi o, e mmder ofheecond my the k,heomnd of th spiafoesthcommanr th abase, so all iortant sionth would have haan important role to ayn y opatns nick, nal thoughts? mrdanforth: answer yo quti a this gger issue
thrhetor has been ratcte to anbsd vewhe you have one se yi tt turkey isuprtg isis and theth sideaying that the pkk and the ypg are e ral eqvalent of isis. neither of tsetaments help psuing ration pic that canri t uted states antuey togher to prerv --ure at ihink erye reiz ithultima goal, ich is a sustaable pital soluti to do tursh kurdish question. and we he said nber of things and written authi s rtnly incumbe on the ited states to make rehat itpocyn syria does not empower the g,hepd in y atak a fair political ttlement in turkey posbl t has me it more difficult ent ems li aturshidis no long test ithe political
selentitr. mr. mita tnkou, thanyoevyby r coming toy. as i am rehiwill n be the lastaj develme that weavinury, i encouge you to folloouwritin analys a partispolicycent.o. u n ll alan at the ceeror american progre. we hoptoeeou all soon. thank you. mr. makovsky: thk u ry much. [alause] lawmakers making the stf
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