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the g20. it goes by fast. before i take your questions, let me put into context what we have done over the course of all of these g20 meetings. i think back to april, 2009 when hundreds of thousands of americans were losing their jobs and their homes each month and unemployment was on its way to 10%. around the world, for the first time in a generation, the global economy was contracting. the international financial system was nearly frozen. by several key measures, the global economy was on a worse
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trajectory than the great depression. the size and the scope of the crisis was not what made that london g20 historic, what made historic with the speed and magnitude of our collective response. one nation cannot solve the problem alone so together, develop and developing nations alike took a comprehensive and unprecedented set of actions to prevent another depression and set the stage for recovery. most important was to create jobs and growth estimate we can demand across our economies. america led the way. by then, and just my first 10 or so weeks as president, we have passed the recovery act. set in motion plan to rescue our auto industry. stabilize the banks. jump start loans to small businesses and lunch programs to help homeowners -- launch programs to help homeowners refinance and stay in their homes. to stabilize the global coming, we rejected the protectionism. we cooperated to keep markets open and trade finance opening. bolster the financial system lending capacity to respond to country searching the most. and, to prevent super -- future crisis, we took steps to reform the financial regulatory system including the historic austria
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hectlosee in that allowed us as the global recovery progressed, we took further actions to strengthen the global economy and that is what we came to do. we have had like debates over the years about the best way to promote sustained growth. america's voice has always been one of the old action. -- bold action. since 2010, america's businesses have created more than 50 million new jobs. we have -- 15 million new jobs. we have cut and by half. -- the unemployment rate by
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half. one of the things we have learned is that our economies are interconnected. we have more work to do together to keep the global economy growing.e tomore t wages faster, shrinking equality faster, give everybody a shot at opportunity and security in a changing economy. that should be the way forward for the g20 to make sure the benefits of trends like globalization and technological process progress -- progress are shared probably. -- broadly. that is what we did at the summit. we committed to using all our policy tools to promote robust growth creates opportunity for young people and the middle class they are working to join. we focused on making sure that businesses can compete fairly in
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all working families and take advantage of the prospects that a digital become a creates. he reaffirmed our commitment to support emerging economies through an array of development initiatives. we also discussed ways to unlock the benefits of trade and keeping it fair for workers and keeping the plainfield level for businesses. that includes high standard trade agreements that benefit the middle class like the tpp. that includes working together to abstain from unfair currency practices and address corruption. and it includes our agreement to establish any form to address the market distorting policies that have hurt workers and businesses. we also added amended to the fight to protect our planet for future generations. on saturday, the u.s. and china formally entered the paris agreement. today, the g20 welcomed efforts to enter the paris agreement enforced by the end of the year.
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legitimizes his approach on the issue? >> i just cannot of a long day of meetings. i just heard about some of this. i have seen some of those colorful statements in the past. clearly he is a colorful guy. what i have instructed my team to do is talk to their philippine counterparts to find out if this is in fact the time
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where we can have some constructive conversations. obviously, the filipino people are some of our closest friends and allies. the philippines is a treaty ally of ours. i always want to make sure that i'm i'm -- i am having a meeting that is productive. we recognize the significance -- significant burden that the drug trade plays not just in the philippines, but around the world. biking narco trafficking is tough. ightnarco fickinh. drugs in a way that is consistent with basic
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international norms. undoubtedly, if and when we have a meeting, this is something that will brought up. my expectation is that it could be dealt with effectively. i will have my team discussed this. i have a whole bunch of folks that i will be meeting with over the course of the next several days. as i said, our relationship with the philippines is one of our most important. my relationship with the philippine people has been extra nearly -- extraordinarily warm and productive. i expect that will continue. i want to make sure that the setting is right and the time is right -- timing is right to have the best conversation possible. >> [indiscernible]
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pres. obama: what is certainly true is that the issues of how we approach fighting crime and drug trafficking is a serious one for all of us. we have to do it the right way. michelle kaczynski. >> same subject as the colorful guy. what can you tell us about this 1.5 hour meeting you had with bladder peyton -- glad near -- vladmir putin? and send to read cited intelligence information when suggesting that russia was meddling with our campaign. do you think russia's trying to influence u.s. elections are hacking? --through hacking? pres. obama: president clinton is less -- putin is less colorful.
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the tone of our meetings are candid, blunt, businesslike. d acseta and russia's foreign minister about ways in which we can institute a meaningful serious, verifiable cessation of hostilities in syria. our capacity to provide humanitarian relief to families, children, women who are suffering enormously under the burdenhat
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as you will recall, we initiated the cessation of hostilities in a while back. initially, it did lessen some of the pilots. then, slowly -- violence. then, slowly, it unwound. we are back in the situation where the assad regime is bombing with impunity. we think that a strengthening the capacity of nisra to recruit. they now view anyone who is fighting against a solid -- this odd legitimized. that is a dangerous dynamic. -- assad is legitimate. that is a dangerous dynamic. this would allow the net states and russia to focus on common enemies like isil. but given the gaps of trust that exist, that is a tough negotiation.
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we have not yet closed the gaps in a way where we think it would actually work. be. wnv -- syrian conflict. we also spent time talking about
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avio president putin. wiess the par lot get some of countries around the world, including through our g20 process to adopt these norms. we have to make sure we are observing them. all right. william. >> thank you. heading into laos, what are the main things you can operate -- offer its lea and whaedma
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innocent kids running through a field or a farmer trying to clear a field or a business tried to get set up, that they are not endangered by the possibility of an explosion. likewise, we have deep commitments accounting for those who were lost during that war. as was true with vietnam, to the
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extent that we are able to find out more about our missing in action and our pows, that not only provides enormous comfort and meaning for families and is consistent with our traditions, but it also ends up being a show of good faith on the part of the country and away for us to move into a next phase of the relationship. a lot of the conversation i think we'll start their but it does not end there. we have had an initiative of helping other countries along the delta there to find ways to harness developing and the with environment of issues. that is something we have been
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doing throughout the course of several years now. for us to be able to expand some of that work will be important. establishing people-people exchanges is another area that has been supporting -- important. i do think laos seen the enormity of the economic progress will make them interested in finding ways in which they can advance into the global economy and help themselves grow. i think we can be a useful partner there. i think there will be a rod based agenda -- broad base agenda. if you think about the visit i made to coach them on city -- hoachiman city and driving through the seats -- streets and enormodwilat you saw, that started with some of
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the same kinds of steps we are going to take with laos. i think we can do it faster. make more progress faster than we did over the course of 10-15 years because we have learned some things. laos is very eager to engage with us and we are eager to engage with them. i look forward to visiting what i hear is a beautiful country. christi parsons. >> thank you. on the transpacific partnership, how do you plan to sell this to these asian leaders who still have work to do in their own countries and with some -- the politics are not easy and maybe they do not want to do it. it seems like the future is cau -- dplanconvey ievit --do el
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but they eventually get done. it is my intention to get this done because on the merits, it is smart for america to do it. i have yet to do a persuasive argument from the left or the right as to why we would not want teate a trade framework that raises labor standards, raises environmental standards, protects intellectual property, levels the playing field for u.s. businesses, brings down tariffs, it is indisputable that it would create a better deal for us than the status quo. nobody has been able to describe to me, with all the general criticism of the trade that you hear coming out of some quarters, nobody has been able
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to track -- described to me how this would not be a significant improvement for u.s. workers and u.s. businesses. compared to the status quo. quarters, nobody has been able i intend to make that argument. i will have to be less persuasive here because most people already understand it. back home, will have to cut through the noise once election season is over. it is always a little noisy there. in terms of mr. kaepernick, i have to confess i have not been thinking about football while i have been over here. i have not been following this closely.
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gumentryin thinklole whongagn te rough ey ce parts has a point- he around certain concerns about justice and equality. that is how we move forward. sometimes it is messy.
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you know, it is the way democracy works. last one. angela of bloomberg. thehe g20 group discussed importance of fairness and consistency among countries. for you, how much of that was centered around the eu's decision? how do you allen's your efforts to ensure global tax fairness with your desire to protect u.s. companies and shders how would you assess the likelihood of actions taken today in making a difference in overcapacity? president obama: great questions. the issue of tax avoidance and evasion is something that we
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ane actively promoted as issue for the g20 to tackle. we have worked with not only the g20 countries but also some of organizationsal to refine how we can approach these problems. it is a complicated piece of business. we did not bring up the specific case of apple. do not want rule, i to bring up a single case in a forum like this, where we are trying to shape broader policy. but at home, we have been focused, whether it is on the forward, rules we put the proposals we put forward to define who the beneficiaries are
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behind the veil so that we can catch people avoiding their ta xes, we are doing a bunch of stuff at home. we want to coordinate better norms internationally. the one thing we want to make sure we do is to move in concert with other countries. because there is always the danger that, if one of us acts unilaterally, it is not just a matter of u.s. companies being impacted. impact ino have an terms of our ability to collect taxes from the company. you might end up with a situation where they pay into the u.s. treasury is shortchanged. if there is not some coordination, you get a problem
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there. in the same way, we think there -- to be some coordination even some of our closest allies racing towards the bottom in terms of how they enforce tax policies in ways that can lead to revenue shifting and tax avoidance in our country. so this is not something that i think will be sorted out overnight. if we are toat, regain the trust of ordinary people that the system is not these and deal with inequalities, we have to make sure we tackle this issue in an effective way.
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we have made some progress, but not as much as we need to. that it is recognized that it is in the interest of all countries, whether in loping countries, to work together to put a stop to this. developed countries are losing revenue. r tax base andei ability to educate kids, built university and infrastructure. it also wallops developing countries. often times, tax avoidance goes hand-in-hand with corrupt processes that impede development. in terms of overcapacity, this is an issue we wanted on the agenda. we got it on the agenda in my bilateral conversations with president xi. there is an agreement we would make progress on dealing with steel overcapacity, which, by
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the way, is consistent with the plans president xi has had to so that ite economy is not heavily dependent on e-owenterpd esatngdariatre distorted in
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a well functioning market, that needs to be fixed. was one of a number of examples that was not always sexy and do not attract wherenes fo whe -- of issues we have raised get adopted. the following year, we start seeing action and strengthen and build up international norms. look at the issue of i.t. and the digital economy. we were able to get the g20 to adopt a range of principles that an open internet, net neutrality, making sure that, vendors, businesses and
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and providers are not discriminated against across borders, reflecting a lot of the foundational principles that have led to this digital in theion -- revolution past two years. that will, in turn, generate new work. there will still be conflicts about how people deal with censorship or cyber security issues. is over time, what you get sturdier international norms that will help all countries grow and people prosper. my parting words at the g20 were, having watched this process over the last eight year s, i think we all have to recognize these are turbulent times. seen of countries are
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volatile politics. you read the headlines and can get discouraged about whether the international community and leadership are able to shape solutions fast enough for the scale of the problems, whether it is migrants or refugees or climate change or, you know, theorism or making sure international economy is working for everybody. but then when you look back over sturdiese oft ng
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it is not just because of us. it is the g20. agreement insal which all countries are having to strengthen capital requirements and put in place basic safeguards to prevent what happened. that is true across the board. i would like to see but i am cautiously optimistic about the progress we have made. i tell my staff when they feel worn out sometimes that better is always good. it may not be everything that needs to get done, but if it is better than before we started, we will take it. all right? thank you very much, everybody. thank you, guys. got to go. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute,
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which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] >> president obama is the first u.s. president to visit the southeast asian nation of laos. the three-day visit is part of the southeast asian nations conference. the president will give a speech on the efforts to improve the u.s.-asia-pacific relationship. coming up on c-span, our road to the white house coverage continues with hillary clinton and tim kaine campaigning in cleveland on labor day. after that, remarks from libertarian candidate gary johnson in iowa. later, jill stein speaking to supporters in detroit. angress returns tuesday from seven-week summer break.
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it has until september 30 to extend current spending to prevent a government shutdown. in the house at 2:00 eastern, members work on a bill that would allow library of congress to collect video and audio recordings from gold star family's for historical purposes. another would establish victims rights for sexual assault cases. the senate returns on 3:00 eastern with military programs on the agenda, along with zika prevention funding. live coverage of the house on c-span. the senate, on c-span2. c-span's washington journal, live every day with news and policy issues than that you. coming up, the senior staff writer for roll call and a washington post reporter discuss the issues facing the house and senate as the return to work this week. and the senate correspondent for the national journal hotline will talk about the latest
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analysis and predictions about this fall's key senate races. she will discuss how the trump or clinton candidacy could affect down ballot races in november. be sure to watch law and can journal -- washington journal tuesday morning. join the discussion. >> hillary clinton and tim kaine spoke to supporters on labor day in cleveland. the campaign rally was part of the 11th annual congressional district parade and festival. this is 40 minutes. and festival. this is 40 minutes. [applause] ♪
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♪ sen. kaine: wow. are we going to climb that mountain and make history? [applause] absolutely. cleveland does rock. it is so good to be here, especially on labor day when we acknowledge all the hard work and all the history that has been made by unions, labor, and working people in this country. give it up for unions, give it up for labor. [applause] it takes a lot of great people to get this together. isn't she the best? she did such a good job, so great to have her here.
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we were doing thank you's and photo's. she told us everything about everyone in 7.5 seconds. i have never seen a presentation for congresswoman, in the u.s. senate, i have no better friends, sitting right there. [applause] you are so lucky to have sharon and you are going to be lucky on the evening of november 8 one -- when you add another great democrat, ted strickland to the , united states senate. my friend, we were governors together and spent a lot of time together and it is great to be here with you. congressman, thank you so much. give it up. [applause] and your mayor. so good to be with you. [applause]
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thank you. what a treat to be standing here on stage with great labor leaders, what a great friend. i got to know him, we got a big mineworkers presence in virginia. he has always told it straight and has always had my back and i cannot tell you how much i appreciate your leadership. thank you. give them a round of applause. [applause] raise your hand if you are an educator so we can give you all a round of applause. [applause] our educators. then, your hometown guy, give it up for lee. [applause] i know there are others. think tim ryan might be here. i think he was here earlier. this is a big day.
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labor day starts the home stretch of the campaign. do we feel battle tested and ready for the home stretch so we can make history and elect hillary clinton on the eighth of november? ohio, going to be there, right? you guys have a habit of being there because you know how to do it. you know how to make the grassroots work so we have progress moving forward and that is what we will do on november 8 with hillary. i will talk for a few minutes and then i will bring her out. i know we are really here for her but i want to tell you how proud i am to be on the ticket. i want to tell you something about hillary. when she called to ask if i would be on the ticket, she said something important that tells you the way she thinks about the job she will have to do. i started to say yes and she
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said no, the quiet i have not , told you why yet. she said look. the test of a clinton administration will not be a bill signing, or the margin by which something passes in the house or the senate. that will not be the test. the test will be, do we do something that makes a classroom better for a teacher who wants to teach and a child who wants to learn? that will be the test. can we do something that will make it safe easier for parents -- safer in the neighborhood or make it easier for parents around the table as they talk about college for their kids. can we do something that will make it safer, the test will be, can we make a tangible and significant difference in the lives of everyday americans?
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that will be the test. that tells you something about who hillary clinton is. she is focused upon every day folks. she is running against the guy who has been sitting up in the penthouse and does not understand the lives of everyday folks and he is not focused on making the lives of everyday folks even better. she said you have been a mayor and a governor and a senator, i think you can help me figure out how to make sure that what we do impact people in their daily lives. needless to say, i am proud to be on the ticket with a woman -- the woman who is the most qualified person to be president that either party been nominated for a long time and probably ever. [applause] can i tell you something that made me mad today? donald trump put out a tweet about our nominee for president which essentially said, she does not
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look presidential, does she? listen to that again. she does not look presidential, does she, fellas? does she, fellas? here is my prediction. at the end of the second term of presidency,ton's donald trump will still be saying that very same thing hawking bottled water somewhere and we have forgotten he'd ever run for president of the united states. [applause] it is important that we are here on labor day. i grew up in a labor house. a quick story. iron working shop. some people have heard me tell the story. five employees in a good year, -- bad year 12 employees in a
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, good year, plus my teedo's brothers and me and my mom. my dad taught me that business judgment would put his workers through school but he always taught my brothers and me in the artistry of iron workers will put you boys through school. it is about teamwork and working together and shared prosperity. that is what the country is built on and that is what the party stands for. shared prosperity, the value of hard work, and the fact that we can do more and we are stronger together. since the convention when i got added to the ticket, the first thing we did was go right out on a bus tour through pennsylvania and ohio, talking about an economy that works for everybody. that will be the number one test of the clinton administration. working together. brochuret put it in a
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or advertisement, but can we implement it and do it so people all over the country see that they have a ladder to climb? that they have a ladder to climb to prosperity. thank goodness president obama out of the worst recession since the 1930's. [applause] you all know he had to do that without one party in congress lifting one finger to help him. it was very difficult to create 15 million new jobs. retirementns and accounts worth something again. we go into president obama to thank him for what he has done. however, we also know in ohio and virginia and everywhere, there is more to do. too many people, might the inner-city or rural america, might be in indian country, too many people do not look out and
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see they have a ladder they could climb to success. what we have to do, will be have promised to do is work together with congress to try to put some important new policies in place so people see the ladder and we told you what works for all. that is why we have going around the country since the convention talk about what we will do. we will invest in manufacturing and infrastructure and labor will be key to making those investments and making them work. we will invest in education and skills from early childhood education, giving our teachers the tools and flexibility they need to succeed in the classroom without a lot of top-down in washington. we will make college affordable and debt-free for americans. free community college for people who cannot afford it and we will reinvigorate because you do not just need a college degree to succeed. union apprenticeship programs,
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career and technical education are a path to success in the 21st century and we will focus on that. [applause] we will focus on equity. raising the minimum wage so you do not work full-time in this country to be below the poverty level. equal pay for women. what a novel concept that would be. [applause] child care tax credits for working parents to have a good job without spending too much of their money on high-quality child care. we will do that. it is about investment in education and equity and knowing that small businesses are the backbone of our economy. two thirds of jobs in this country created by small businesses. hillary knows that from her family background and i do, too. that is the we are going to do. hillary clinton will be a "you are hired" president. who wants that? [applause] obviously. you know what kind of president donald trump will be.
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a you're fired president. there is poetic justice to the fact that when we think about donald trump before he ran for president, we knew him as a guy known for the two words, you are fired. when they tell you they are, pay -- who they are, pay attention to it. that is who he is, that is the kind of president he will be. you see it with everything he has done, building casinos and golf course headquarters and small businesses like my dads would get the contract to do the work and they would do the work and pay employees and pay material costs and they would say i am done, what do you think, and they would be told, yes, the work -- the work is great, and then they would stiff them. hundreds of businesses, he would not pay. some had to go into bankruptcy because he knew he was a big guy and he thought he could just push aside the little guys. they got hurt because they trusted donald trump. the students who gave him thousands of dollars to go hit
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university got hurt. never got the condos because they trusted donald trump and donald trump wants us to trust him? are you kidding me? are you kidding me? he is doing a job interview, that is what this is. out doing a job interview, you are interviewing us. he is coming out and says i want this job. you say, every president since nixon has produced their tax returns. he will not. -- he will not. how about giving information about your health, medical records, no, i'm not going to do it. how about information about whether you owe money, no, i will not do it. if somebody came to your office and they wanted a summer job and
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you ask them questions that are important, would you give them a job? >> no! sen. kaine: then you cannot give a job to -- you cannot do it. we just can't do it. he must think we are gullible. he must think we are chumps. we are not. ohioans are not gullible. virginians are not gullible. americans are not gullible. that is why we are not going to elect donald trump. we will support the you are hired president, hillary clinton. [applause] the last thing i want to say this is important to me. , i made my career before i got into politics as a civil rights lawyer. i was doing housing litigation all over virginia and other states in the south. turned away from housing because of race or disability. i would take the case and represent them in court. often they cannot find anybody
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else to represent them. i did it because housing was so important and everyone is entitled to be treated fairly regardless of the color of their skin. hillary clinton got out of law school and she could have gone to wall street that she went to work with the children's defense fund. the juvenile justice system in south carolina, education system in alabama. this is what i did early and what hillary did early. let me tell you about trump us -- trump's early career. he came into a family business and shortly after he got deeply involved, he got sued by the justice department for discriminating against people based on the color of their skin. a massive housing lawsuit brought by the justice department and the evidence was when applications would come in, and somebody had dark skin, latino or often -- african-american they would , put a c on an application which would be the signal for that person to get second-class treatment.
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we do not need a president who thinks any american should get second-class treatment. we are all equal and deserve -- in this country and we all deserve first-class treatment. we need a president who understands that. before i introduce hillary, i want to say this. this is the home stretch. a number of us have done multiple labor day events already. labor day is the start of the home stretch campaign. that is when the focus is on and the spotlight is the greatest and that is when we have to do our best work. you said thanks for coming to ohio, no, i am thinking you for -- thanking you for coming out when we come to ohio. we have to come to ohio. you all know this. you are used to this. you are used to the fact that one of the two or three or most important states of any election going back since there were presidential elections.
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that is why we are here with you. here is what we know about the next nine weeks, you are going to see a lot of negative advertisements on tv. you know the deal. a group can form and get money from millionaires or billionaires and call themselves citizens for apple pie, they do not tell you who they are, they put out negative advertisements and say things that are largely false and they will not tell you they are, that is what campaigning has come to these days. but we democrats know how to do this because we learned how to do it from labor. we can beat all the negative advertisements, consultants, and we can beat them by doing person-to-person. isn't that what ohio knows how to do? that is how we win. even in a nation of 330 million people. i will tell you something i , think people tune out the negative advertisements.
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sherrod had a ton of that money spent against him but people tune it out. people kind of tune it out. i do not know. they are not sure they can believe. but what they do believe, what people believe deeply, they believe in the word from somebody they care about and trust, a neighbor, someone in their church, someone they go to school with or work with. if you reach out and talk to them, you can persuade someone who is undecided or persuade someone who is decided, that this is a very important election for the future of the country. are you willing to do that, make that person to person effort? i [applause] i will tell you something else. they do not even have to know you. if you knocked on their door and say i'm a volunteer for hillary clinton, they will hear volunteer. they did not have to do this. they do it because they are passionate about it.
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our citizens who are trying to decide, they want to hear from somebody who can answer a question, you have the ability to make a difference and get people to take it seriously and see the consequences and you know how to do it because i bet becausese all ohio -- ohio always figures out how to do it. between now and november 8, we are asking, raise your hand if you are already volunteering or the campaign. [applause] give them around of applause. that is great. for anyone not yet volunteering, you can do it. text "together" to 47246. that's all you have to do and you will be brought into the campaign and we will work hard to make history november 8. the real work starts making history every day after november eighth with president hillary clinton. i've had the wonderful honor to be on the ticket for hillary. we did an interview and somebody asked, what have you learned
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about her and i said, i will tell you something i suspected that i have now learned. this is a lady who never back s down. this is one lady who never backs down. from the time she was a teenager in a methodist youth group, she has been focused on the success of families and kissed -- kids. whether in officer out, whether -- office or out, whether she is winning or losing, whether she is getting something fast or having the other side knock it back, she does not forget where she came from or what motivates her. that is why i am so proud to say i'm with hillary and we are with hillary and we will make history with hillary here it is welcome hillary clinton the next , president of the united states. [applause] ♪
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ms. clinton: hey, cleveland! happy, happy labor day. [applause] when we were trying to figure out where we could be, we said, let's go to cleveland. i want to thank the congresswoman marcia fudge for hosting us. [coughing] [chanting "hillary!"] every time i think about trump, i get allergic. [applause]
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boy, we have 63 days to go. well, thank you. [coughing] you just heard the next vice
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president, didn't you? in addition to thanking marsha, we also thank great senators. excuse me. also two other great members of congress. tim ryan. [applause] and your mayor, jackson. [applause] and i hope, i hope that ohio will send ted strickland to the senate.
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[applause] now behind me, in front of great labor leaders of our country, randy, lee saunders, rich. [applause] i'm proud to be on the same stage with them. they are always fighting for working families. once i get over my my allergic -- mileage of reaction let me , say we are here in part because we know how important this election is to ohio. it is not just, as tim said,
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that ohio is one of those radel -- battleground states you hear about every four years, it is that ohio represents everything that is great about america. and all of the challenges and opportunities that we face. that is why this election is critical to every person in this state. is ii want to emphasize know we can't face our problems alone. we have to work together. we believe we are stronger together. that is in stark contrast to donald trump. remember what he said at his convention. he said i alone can fix it. think about what that leaves out, my friends. that leaves out all of our
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troops on the front line, police officers and firefighters. doctors and nurses who care for us. it leaves out teachers and educators who care for the most important people in our lives, our children. leaves out everybody except him. when he says i alone can fix it, that clearly demonstrates he does not understand how america works. how we got great and why we are great today. and what we need to do together to face the future. our campaign is about, we will fix it together, we will work together, we will bring our country together. [applause] that areer example of our labor unions? they are built on the principle of solidarity. they look out for each other,
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they fight for fair wages and collective bargaining for safe working conditions. just last week, we learned once again because another study came out that confirms what we already knew. when more workers are in union, -- unions, wages are higher. not just for union members, but for all workers. [applause] that is why we will say no to attacks on unions, note rolling -- no to rolling back collective bargaining, no to unfair trade tpp, no to pension cuts that deny a secure retirement that you have earned. note to write to work because right to work is wrong for workers and wrong for america. but we are not just about saying no.
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we are saying yes to standing up for workers rights, yes to good jobs and benefits, yes to the american dream. it is big enough for everyone to share the promise. so that is why during the campaign, i have been running a campaign based on issues, not insults. [applause] i believe anyone who asks for your vote should tell you what they are going to do. starting tomorrow, you can read about the plan tim and i have. we are putting out a book. does someone have a copy of that book? we are putting out a book called "stronger together" it is more than a slogan for the campaign. that is a guiding principle for
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the future we want to build and it is exactly what we want to do. some will say we have got so many plans are you all right, i -- plans, you are right. i do have plans. i want you to know what i want to do to help you and what kinds of results we will work to achieve. i have an old-fashioned idea that if you are asking somebody to vote for you, they ought to tell you what you want to do and hold you accountable when you are elected. [applause] i will tell you what, our plans start with a very simple idea, that we will get the economy to work for everyone. not just those at top. we will do it, a big investment in new jobs that we have had since world war ii. more infrastructure jobs, advanced manufacturing jobs, clean renewable energy jobs,
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anyone willing to work hard should have a job that can support them and their families. a job with dignity, with only a future to be proud of, not to worry about. we will offer new solutions for families. families are different today than they were in the 1950's for heavens sake. we need to make sure we help support families the way they are today, not back then. helping people support and balance family and work, earned sick days, affordable childcare. finally guarantee pay for women's work. -- equal pay for women's work. [applause] here is our book. it is called, "strong together" for a reason.
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you can read on what we want to do on the economy and everything else. it will be available starting tomorrow. the choice for families has never been clearer. just look at donald trump's track record when it comes to hard-working men and women. i know, i'm allergic to it too. there may be people you know who are thinking about voting for him. friends don't let friends vote for trump. [applause] here's what you can tell, among many things he hired a unionbusting firm to break up an organizing campaign at his hotel in las vegas. he built his career on refusing to pay workers, plumbers, painters, glass installers, people who did work for him. he stiffed small businesses like my dad. had small tim's dad
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businesses. it gave us a good middle-class life. my father got a contract from donald trump. and i am grateful. my dad worked hard, he printed drapery fabric. i would go help them sometimes. there would be a long table. and the fabric would be rolled out and the silkscreen would be laid down and then you pour the paint on then you spread across. you lifted it up and go all the way down. when he finished, he would load the drapery fabrics in that car. i don't know what would have happened to my family if he had done a big job thinking it was a good deal and the trump people say, we are not going to pay you, and then after harassing, may be they say ok we will pay you $.30 on the dollar. he has driven hard-working people into bankruptcy.
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and taken six bankruptcies himself. here in ohio you know that a president makes decisions that affects people's lives and livelihoods. when millions of jobs were on the line in the auto industry, president obama made the right decision to save the auto industry. [applause] i know we have some uaw members here. i was proud to support them and even prouder now that the auto industry had its best year ever. think how differently things could have turned out. i know this would be hard to imagine if donald trump was in the oval office. last year he said it didn't matter whether or not we save
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the auto industry. either way would have been acceptable. he said we couldn't just let it -- could have just let it go, never mind the 850,000 people in ohio and millions more across the country, whose jobs and paychecks were tied to the auto industry. what else could we expect from someone who's most famous words are, "you're fired. this is the kind of difference that this election poses. people like tim and me, who want to create good jobs with rising wages and benefits for anyone willing to work hard, that is the basic bargain of america. and somebody who stiffed people to bankruptcy and laid off people. one of his bankruptcies put 1000 people out of work. every time you hear him talk
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about how he knows how to create jobs, just look at the facts. educate yourself and your friends and your colleagues. the kind of wild claims he makes about everybody and everything, don't stand up to any scrutiny. the same is true in whether or -- when it comes to whether we keep our country safe. stronger together means working with our allies and partners. we are not just electing a president, we are electing a commander in chief. when donald trump says, i quote, i know more about isis than the generals do. when he claims that our armed forces are a disaster or he insults a gold star family, that
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is not just wrong and defensive, -- offensive, that is dangerous. our military is a national treasure. and the president must respect the men and women who risk their lives and wear the uniform of our country. some of you know tim kaine's son is deployed right now. he is a marine. [applause] tim and i will not only respect our men and women in uniform, we will protect them and we will ensure that they are given the resources that they need to do the dangerous missions we ask them to do on our behalf. [applause] last week we saw even more evidence that trump is temperamentally unfit and totally unqualified to be president. in just a few hours he managed
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to turn his trip to mexico into an embarrassing international incident. he even got into a twitter war with the president of mexico. and then he delivered his most hate filled speech yet. doubling down on his absurd plan to send a deportation forced to roundup 16 million people -- deportation force to round of 16 million people. you can't make this stuff up. he can try to distract with divisive rhetoric and fool voters into thinking he's not as harsh and humane -- inhumane as it seems, but it is too late. when you see what he has said and done in this campaign, when you see what goes into a -- when you see him go into a foreign
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country and get into a public feud with the president, the answer is clear. donald trump does not have the temperament to be our commander in chief. [applause] imagine him in a real crisis. i have said it before and will say that again, a man who cannot tweak cannotith a be trusted with nuclear weapons. i know that these elections are always tight and hard. i am not taking anywhere -- taking anyone anywhere for granted. that is why we are here today. we need your help. we need to make sure we have an validates the positive future that will make life better for the people of ohio. and empty promises will not do that.
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neither will racist attacks. it will not get your family a job, it will not keep our troops safe, it will not heal the divide in america. i spent my life fighting for kids and families. during the fight for health reform, some of you remember, powerful interests blocked our way. i did not give up. i work with republicans and emma kratz to pass the children's health insurance program that covers 8 million kids today. [applause] that is how you deliver real results. you can never give up, you can never quit. you have to start with the right values and principles. you have to believe in our country, you have to believe in the american people. i'm asking for your help in these next two months. i'm asking you to reach out to your friends and neighbors.
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everybody can possibly touch. i'm asking you to join this campaign. you can go to hillaryclinton. com. we want to win ohio. [applause] we don't want to win it just for the sake of winning it, we want to win it so we can go onto the white house next january and get to work for you. [applause] we want to win it so we can take all the plans and ideas that will improve your lives. that will get the economy working for everybody, not just those at the top, which will help make education affordable, so colleges are within reach of everyone, and to help pay back your student debt. we want to defeat isis, keep our alliance strong, we want to
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break down the barriers. that is why we are running. we are not running because it is and i think to do after you have a reality tv show. do after young to have a reality tv show. we are running because between tim and i, we have a lot of years of public service. we believe what we can do together. we believe we can make our country even greater. please join the campaign, be part of us having an american future that is better than the past, that creates the opportunity for every single man, woman, and child. thank you and god bless you. [applause] ♪
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♪ >> the moderators for the upcoming presidential debates have been announced. theer holt will moderate september 26 debate at hofstra university. martha raddatz and anderson cooper will moderate on october and chrisngton wallace of fox news will moderate on october 19 in las vegas at the university of the batter. -- nevada. 's "washington journal" every day, news, impacting you.
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historical purposes. at 2 p.m.nate returns eastern with military construction and the a programs on the agenda along with zika prevention pending -- funding. the senate on c-span2. >> the c-span radio app makes it easy to continue the best to follow the 2016 election. it is free to download from the apple app store or google play. get up to the minute schedule information for radio and timession plus podcast were popular public affairs book and history programs. stay up-to-date on all the election coverage. c-span's radio app means you always have c-span on the go. >> libertarian presidential candidate terry johnson is also on the campaign trail addressing in desand supporters
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moines, iowa last saturday. he talks about a range of issues including marriage equality, health care, immigration, and the legalization of marijuana. he also discussed the importance of being included in the presidential debate at how social media is helping him attract more supporters. [applause] ♪ [applause] gary johnson: so many places to be on a saturday afternoon, you are here you honor me. ,thank you very much. wow. [applause] is this the craziest election ever? we know how crazy it is.
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i'm going to meet next president of the united states, that's how crazy it is. [applause] gary johnson: you know, people ask me all the time, it's got to be cool to be a former governor. what's that like? in new mexico, i kid you not, people wave at me with all five fingers and not just one. [laughter] gary johnson: beyond my wildest dreams, bill weld is my running mate. [applause] gary johnson: he has served one term prior to my taking office and then i got elected. he was known as the smartest governor in the room. everybody acknowledged bill weld as the smartest governor. brainy bill. brainy bill, honest gary -- that is what we are going to try to apply our nicknames ahead of time. [applause]
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gary johnson: but the two of us coming together, two former republican governors that served two terms each in heavily democrat states, fiscally conservative, over-the-top, socially inclusive, i think i've just described the majority of americans in this country. [applause] gary johnson: i would also like to add that i think the majority of citizens in this country also have a real skepticism about our foreign military policy that has us as the world's policeman as opposed to, look, if we are attacked, we are going to attack back. and that in fact, we do have to have an invincible national defense and military superiority, but being the world's policeman has come at a great cost.
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i've always lived my life believing that if you tell the truth, you do not have to remember anything. it's really easy. [applause] gary johnson: and success in life is a really dictated by how we deal with failure. failure is something that presents itself all the time. i mean, every single day we come up against it. and every single day, figuring that anything that can go wrong will go wrong, that is life. anything that could go wrong will go wrong. do we curl up in a ball, declare ourselves victims? or do we get a smile on our face and realize this is part of the process, and get up tomorrow and deal with it? well, let's have a smile on our face, get up tomorrow, and deal with it because it's how we deal with success that ultimately determines failure.
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i have one bit of advice for everybody here today. and my advice is worth exactly what you are paying for it, which is nothing. [laughter] gary johnson: but my advice is that whatever it is you do, whatever it is that you know, apply it entrepreneurally. the will never be a greater -- there will never be a greater reward than creating your own job or creating jobs for other. government can play a role in reducing the barriers for you and i to be able to do that. right now, there is one area in our lives that creates equal andrtunity for all of us, that is the internet. we have the ability, each and every one of us, to compete with anyone in the world individually. i have to tell you right now that the government is poised to pass a whole bunch of legislation.
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they're going to pass legislation under the guise of equality, but the reality is that it is going to restrict a lot of us from being able to do that. bill weld and i will stand up against that infringement on equal opportunity that will exist. [applause] gary johnson: i do think that the model of the future is uber everything. uber electrician, uber doctor, uber accountant. where the middleman is eliminated to allow you as the provider of goods and services , to directly deliver those goods and services to a user, who is going to pay less for it. you're going to make more eliminating the middleman. i think it is really exciting. i think we have just seen the tip of the iceberg of the sharing economy. airbnb -- is there a better place to visit than iowa in the
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summer? no, not really. there isn't. too hot. [laughter] gary johnson: i'm thinking of the lakes. anyway, it is a beautiful state, but airbnb. i'm talking to a young lady in baltimore. she is 26 years old. she got her phd in science and said, i have these horrible student debts and i figured out a way to pay back the student debts -- airbnb. renting out my place, making enough money to pay back my student debt. guess what? the city of baltimore came in and said no to airbnb. this is politics. this is crony capitalism. this is when the government injects itself in the economy , and unfairly takes away opportunity that you and i could have competing with others. believe me, this presents itself
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all the time. as governor of new mexico, i saw this legislation that passed all the time that gave unfair advantage to those who had money and influence, and it gave them more money and influence. bill weld and i are not looking to get elected king or dictator. we are looking to get elected president and vice president or -- and we are planning a partnership, really something unique, getting two for the price of one. i think it's a real positive, but what you can count on, us being president and vice president, is certainty. and there will be certainty when it comes to tax policy. the taxes will get simpler. we will always sign on to making taxes simpler. [applause] gary johnson: we will always sign on to reducing taxes and reducing taxes is money out of
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your and my pockets that we could be spending on our lives as opposed to government knowing best. and then rules and regulations. contrary to what most people think, world and regulations -- rules and regulations benefit those that are already in places of power and influence and dissuade those of us who would like to compete with them ultimately. back to this equal opportunity level playing field. there are three scenarios in this upcoming election. let's see -- we elect trump. we elect clinton. [booing] does anybody believe that the polarity that exists between democrats and republicans today -- they want to kill each other. does anybody believe that's going to get any better given an election of trump or clinton? no, no way.
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now there is a third scenario. two former republican governors, libertarians, getting elected president and vice president down that big six lane highway down the middle, hiring a bipartisan administration, democrats, republicans. [applause] libertarians. [applause] gary johnson: everybody is going to be libertarian-leaning. bipartisan administration calling out both sides to come on and let's deal with the problems that this country is facing. i think that third scenario has the possibility of actually succeeding. [applause] gary johnson: i agree 100% with hillary clinton's number one
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issue in this campaign. i agree 100% with donald trump's number one issue in this campaign. i would not vote for trump if i were clinton, and i would not vote for clinton if i were trump. [applause] gary johnson: libertarians -- common sense. keep government out of my bedroom. keep government out of my pocket book. and stop supporting regime change that has made the world less safe and not more safe. [applause] gary johnson: fiscally conservative -- why be fiscally conservative? why balance the federal budget?
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bill and i -- not dictator, but pledging to submit a balanced budget to congress over the first 100 days. the reason to balance the federal budget is for future generations. my generation has screwed it up for those that are young and we have got to fix it. to balance the federal budget, that is about the future. that is about dealing with the entitlements -- medicaid and medicare. neither donald trump nor hillary clinton say they are going to do anything regarding either of them, other than hillary saying she is going to expand them. the only way we're going to fix medicare and medicaid is to devolve those functions to the state, 50 laboratories of innovation and best practice, where there would be fabulous innovation that would get emulated, and i believe in my heart of hearts, having been governor of new mexico, if the
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federal government would have granted the state of new mexico a fixed amount of money less for medicaid, then i could have drawn good eligibility to pass a -- 's of eligibility pass a safety , net, and save that amount of money. the only way we could have saved medicare is to do the same thing, something that is currently the federal government, but devolve that to the state. same scenario. washington is incapable of one-size-fits-all. we cannot dig our heads in the sand either about social security. it is headed to insolvency. we have to address social security. it's not about cutting social security, but it is about reforming it so that it will be around for future generations, and that means raising the retirement age, for one thing. you could have a very fair means testing when it comes to social security. should you get back more money than what you paid in, given a certain level of income? like i said, i think there could
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be a very, very fair means of testing. and you cannot cut the federal government by 20% if you are not going to cut military by 20%. [applause] gary johnson: and that is not compromising the military. we need to have an invincible national defense. we have to maintain military superiority, but the pentagon itself in the mid-1990's advocated that 25% of bases could be closed, but there has not been the political will to do that. bill weld and myself, neither of us have served in any other political capacity other than governors of our state. we did not know the sacred cows existed. it was coming in and really starting over from scratch, creating budgets that actually
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accomplished things and scrapping things that didn't. when it comes to the military, why is it that we always add and add and we never reevaluate , because there is much excess in the federal government? immigration -- we should be embracing immigration in this country. we are a country of immigrants. [applause] gary johnson: the wharton school of business -- that's where donald trump got his degree, wasn't it? the wharton school of business did publish three weeks ago in "the wall street journal" the economic impact of restricting immigration. it was going to have a negative impact on our economy. they analyzed allowing more high
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-skilled workers into our country. the impact was going to be very slight positive to our economy. the last scenario was increasing immigration dramatically, which would have a very overwhelming positive impact on our economy. i am speaking as a border state governor. the deportation of 11 million undocumented workers is based in untruth and misunderstanding completely. they are not taking jobs that u.s. citizens want. they are hard-working. they are the cream of the crop when it comes to workers. statistically, they commit less crime than u.s. citizens. you know, donald trump was watching the olympics very closely. how high do the mexican pole vaulters go? [laughter] gary johnson: he is talking
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about how he will make sure there are no tunnels underneath. look, these are hard-working individuals. if you or i were in the same position, which was that there are jobs across the border that u.s. citizens don't want, i want to take care of my family, but i cannot get across the border to take these jobs because there is no line at all to actually be able to cross legally. we should just make it as easy as possible for somebody that wants to get into this country and work to be able to get a work visa. and a work visa should entail -- [applause] gary johnson: should entail a background check and a social security card that taxes get paid. i do believe in free market. free markets is devoid of government interference. crony capitalism is government getting involved, picking winners and losers.
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unfortunately i think that the , majority of americans have come to associate crony capitalism and free market as one and the same when in fact they are opposite. hillary clinton, with this pay to play thing, for the longest time i was wondering about bill clinton and the fact that he was getting these enormous speaking fees. i always thought that was payola for him having been president, when to find out over the last couple weeks, these were really speaking fees that were tied to contracts that were literally signed the next day by hillary as secretary of state to grant preference in countries, and i speak to haiti specifically. look, this is not right. this is not ethical. term limits -- i do believe that term limits is a silver bullet. [applause]
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gary johnson: if we had term limits, i think we would do the right thing as opposed to whatever it takes to get reelected. if we had term limits today, we would not have a $20 trillion national debt. i said earlier we are not getting elected king. we are not getting elected dictator. if i could wave a magic wand regarding tax policy, i would abolish income tax. i would abolish corporate tax , and i would replace it with one federal consumption tax. believing that -- by the way who , pays for corporate tax? we pay for corporate tax. let's not kid ourselves. with zero corporate tax, tens of millions of jobs would get created in this country for no other reason than zero corporate tax.
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i believe that 80% of washington lobbyists would get issued pink slips because that is why they are there, to garner tax favors. [applause] gary johnson: what is needed when it comes to health care? by the way, president obama's affordable health care act -- i have to agree with chief justice roberts that it is a tax. my health insurance premiums have quadrupled and i've not seen a doctor in three years. it is a tax. what do we need to reform health care in this country? what we need to reform health care in this country is a genuine free-market approach to health care. something that, by the way, is about as far removed as it possibly can be from free market currently.
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if we had a free market for health care, you and i would not have insurance to cover ourselves for ongoing medical needs. we would have insurance to cover catastrophic injury and illness , and we would pay as we go in a system that would be very, very affordable. how affordable? my guess, 1/5 of what it currently costs. we would have advertised pricing. we would have advertised outcomes. we would have gallbladders 'r us. we would have stitches r' us. we would have x-rays r' us. it would be very, very competitive and government can play a role in really bring about competition. wellness to our health care system as opposed to dealing with the end result. right now when we go to a doctor, we have no idea what it's going to cost. the person at the desk has no
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idea what it is going to cost. when we get the -- [no audio] >> you can't silence gary! [laughter] >> let gary speak! let gary speak! let gary speak! [chanting] gary johnson: oh, there we go. [applause] gary johnson: so health care. [laughter]
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gary johnson: we have no idea what it's going to cost. when we get the bill, we know that nobody is actually going to pay that bill, right? libertarians always coming down on the side of choice. that you and i as individuals should be able to make choices in our lives that are going to affect our lives as long as those choices don't adversely affect others. as governor of new mexico, i was more outspoken than any other governor in the country regarding school choice, that we should bring competition to public education. in my opinion, if we could unleash a million educational entrepreneurs on our educational system, i think it would have profound dramatic impact on our educational system. [applause]
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gary johnson: but what is the one thing that the federal government could do to improve on education? it would be to abolish the federal department of education. [applause] gary johnson: and it is all a dollars and cents things. i think we think that the department of education was established under george washington. it was established under jimmy carter. the federal department of education -- iowa gives washington $.13. it is your money. you give washington $.13. bureaucratic wash and dry cycle, and iowa gets back $.11. how do you like that trade? then when they give you back the $.11, they tell you that you have to do a, b, c, and d to get your $.11 and it cost $.15 to accomplish $.11.
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why doesn't iowa just keep the six cents in the first place and apply it to the classroom? i daresay that decisions are always best at the local level. decisions are always best when you and i are making those decisions. [applause] gary johnson: so there are a couple of other agencies that come to mind. one is the department of commerce. i think that is all about crony capitalism, although there is intellectual rights and copyrights in the department of commerce. i do not know if that requires an entire agency. there's also housing and urban development, which has completely outlived its usefulness. homeland security? why do we have homeland security in this country? wasn't that the fbi? couldn't that be folded in?
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homeland security vehicles on the road, you have to see a few of them these days. what in the hell do they do? [laughter] i have no idea. do you? do you have any idea what they do? i don't. gary johnson: personal choice. marriage equality -- supporting marriage equality. i know that iowa really took the lead on all that. [applause] gary johnson: how can there be a more difficult decision in anyone's life other than abortion? when i say anyone's life, i'm talking about the woman involved and her decision-making. who but that woman involved should be making that choice other than the woman involved? [applause] marijuana -- let's legalize marijuana in this country. [applause]
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gary johnson: there are tens of millions of americans who are convicted felons that but for our drug laws would otherwise be tax paying, law-abiding citizens. we have the highest incarceration rate of any country in the world, and i refuse to believe that we are any less law-abiding in this country. it has to do with our drug laws , it has to do with mandatory minimums. the main category of prisoner in federal prison today is the individual who has sold small amounts of drugs on numerous occasions and been caught. let's bring an end to the war on drugs. [applause] gary johnson: let's first and foremost recognize drugs as a health problem, not a criminal justice problem. [applause]
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gary johnson: let me say this -- all lives matter. all lives matter. but black lives matter and here's why. blacks are being shot at six times the rate than if you are white. if you are of color, there is a four times more likelihood that if you are arrested, it there is a better chance you are going to end up in jail than if you are white. we have had our heads in the sand over this issue. i count myself as the first one to have my head in the sand over this issue. we have to come to terms with this. we have to recognize that there is discrimination that exists and we have to end this discrimination in our country. [applause]
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mr. johnson: i absolutely support the second amendment to the constitution, our ability to own firearms. [applause] mr. johnson: but we should be open to a debate on how we keep debates and discussion on how we keep firearms out of the hands of the mentally ill. we should also be open to a discussion and debate on how we keep guns out of the hands of would-be terrorists. as president of the united states, i would love to know what transpired between the fbi and the shooter in orlando. obviously, the system worked up to a certain point, but then it broke down. i bet the fbi has some real suggestions on how we might move forward on that issue. the death penalty -- i've been asked many times, did you ever change your mind on a major issue? i changed my mind on the death penalty and here's the reason why. it costs more money to keep a
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person on death row or to sentence a person to death row than it does to lock themselves up for the rest of their lives , because of the appeals that go along with being on death row. when you find out that someone is released because they are categorically proven to be innocent, what value can you put on attorney fees associated with that? that value is limitless. there is estimated to be up to a 4% error rate in the death penalty. i don't know about you, but i do not want to punish one innocent person to punish 999 that are guilty, much less put to death for 96 that are guilty. when i was governor of new mexico, governor ryan of illinois ordered a review of 36 inmates on death row. over 20 of them were released
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, because they were categorically shown to be innocent because of dna testing. so, as public policy, the death penalty is flawed. [applause] there was a pull -- poll among active military personnel three weeks ago on who they favored for president of the united states. by the way, thank you to all veterans. thank you to everyone who has served this country in this audience. [applause] thank you. we had a debt to all of you. every one of you. but in that poll of active military personnel, i won. i was through. [applause] -- i was first.
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[applause] gary johnson: i would like to think it is based on what i am saying, which is let's have judicious use of our military. if we are attacked, we are going to attack back. we should have an invincible national defense. we should demonstrate military superiority, but when we involve ourselves in regime change, it results in a less safe world. and in my lifetime, i cannot think of one instance where we inject ourselves in a civil war and it turns out for the better. we have a regime change in iraq. we wipe out al qaeda, saddam hussein. now we have a void that was created, and as of two years ago, we had never heard of isis. but along comes isis to fill that void. and they exist in libya and syria. and this is not intentional, but this is hillary clinton and barack obama. they supported regime change in

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