tv Political Strategists Speak at the Washington Ideas Forum CSPAN October 3, 2016 10:00am-10:16am EDT
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it is by definition impossible for immortals to fulfill without humility and attention to its purposes to the constitution of the united states. >> watch any time on c-span.org and listen a :00 p.m. eastern on the app. >> it will be lightning round. we will do 13, i think. we will see. who saw the last debate? who will watch the next debate? great to have both of you. what will happen in the next debate?
>> we are the last ones between them and lunch. >> they are here because they want to know what we know but i saw to -- in debate one we donald trump talking about guide, and hillary really studied up but benghazi did not come up and e-mails did not come up. people in thetant campaign's. is he going to beat hillary next time? alex: they can be just as dull and uninteresting as the first debate. what is there to do? i thought hillary's debate strategy was very sharp, very smart. these are two candidates with 75% unfavorable ratings. they are working to get them up to about 150% unfavorable ratings.
however the debate is about is losing. hillary let the debate be about donald trump. i think donald trump let the debate be about donald trump. it is much better if the debate is about the american people in the future. one a debate is about the future, guess what happens. it drives change. the desire for change. 70% think the country is on the wrong track. what does donald trump have to do? make the debate about where hillary clinton would take this country and why that is more of the same and why we can't afford that and why eight more years i take the country in the wrong direction. that i think is a debate strategy. steve: what would you say to him to get his act together? alex: i don't think you can apply for that job. hilary: yeah. when you look at donald trump
platform, he positions himself as a populist. he has a very traditional republican doctrinaire platform. it is tax cuts for the wealthy, to eliminate the estate tax, ban immigration, anti-choice, anti-lgbt writes, climate change is a hoax. he has had trouble consolidating the republican base because he has been focused on those sorts of things. i think from hillary's perspective, people are talking possibly too much about her personality, her issues and the like. when you pull the american people on the issues, like the ones i just named, you get 60% agreement with hillary's positions than trump's positions.
whether or not it ends up being about issues is beyond, but when you think it might be -- for the last two days we've been talking about donald trump's treatment of women and if he is fat shaming girls. i have a 17-year-old daughter and i'm horrified by this conversation. donald trump must have a man mirror. i look fantastic today. [laughter] that is a man mirror. i would rather talk about it in hillary clinton other talk about, actually, the affordable care act equalized health care for women. childcare is an issue.
instead we talk about whether girls are too fat. it is appalling. steve: are you surprised the moderator, lester holt, did you expect e-mails, goldman sachs in benghazi to come up in future rounds? how do you think that will -- hilary: i am sure they will. he objectively lost every opportunity to push on her. i don't think goldman sachs that he can attack her for her wealth, i don't think so. [laughter] e-mails, i thought her answer was great. it was short and sweet. he did not hit much beyond that.
i think whatever problems, and i would be cure on alex's view, and i can't believe this guys helping trump. i love him so much. close friends for a long time. steve: do you remain friends? alex: we will see about another few weeks. hilary: with donald trump there are 1000 things to go at. with hillary there is sort of one. alex: i have a longer list. hilary: we had one issue with e-mails playing over a thousand times. we have a thousand issues playing once. imagine the -- steve: let me get alex a chance to talk about the targets of hillary. you wrote a great line. i want to ask a you square all this. we're all friends. you wrote, if you're angry and alone you are more likely to be a trump odor. if you have to declare your support at your child's third-grade class picnic if becoming embarrassing. you know embracing donald trump and overcoming that difficulty and embarrassment. tell us about the journey and about the target you think hillary represents. alex: isn't that inconvenient
when you write something, it last forever. you have evolved. alex: my candidates lost in the primary. donald trump won. as republicans we need to learn something from that. at the end of the day i have a binary choice. if someone can tell me this election is not urgent, that it does not matter, that we can let the country continued to drift along in the same direction for four or eight more years, i might consider other options. there are a lot of republicans willing to let this election pass. i don't think we can do that because i do think it matters. i do think that $20 trillion debt, a world that seems to be dissolving, the center does not hold, the metastasizing threat coming to our shores increasingly. and we seem to be unable to do that. a weaker country, the less optimistic country.
we are losing faith in the future and i don't become europe. i don't want to become -- it is too far down the road to turn back. my great hope and belief is that donald trump will be the -- not necessarily the future of the republican party as and this is the beginning of a new direction, but i do hope is the turnaround ceo who comes in here, cleans up the books, fires the people who need to be fired, and he is good at that.
then stopped our competitors from kicking sand in our face. steve: i have to go a little deeper on that one. alex: i think the idea of bringing a lot of business people in the government and cleaning out the establishment in both parties -- i think it's a good idea. [laughter] alex: i work for the super pac. hilary: do you think once donald trump is controlling the government people pay taxes to it? alex: i think anyone to bring up -- [applause] alex: i am sure you pay more taxes than you have to. hilary: i'm sure i pay more taxes than donald trump. alex: i don't think you do. who in the audience -- that's a great idea to pay more taxes than you are required to by law. since we are going to talk about corruption, why do we talk about the corrupt empire of the clinton foundation, the clinton global initiative, speeches? steve: short form, what with the targets the of hillary clinton's? hillary said there was one. i think -- alex: loading on more negatives onto hillary clinton about our dishonesty, which the american people have made judgment about and rightly so, about her lack of character in that sense.
the self-serving aspect of her quest for political power. i don't think you can burn down the same house twice. if you keep making those arguments, you may hold her where she is but i don't think that necessarily locks the election. she is more of the same. nothing will change. don't we deserve something a little better than this? should we take a shot at opening up this economy, not closing it? growing the economy -- america's economy instead of washington's? steve: i would ask you one the question each. one of the things i have been hearing more and more is that
because of bernie sanders the challenge, the things that come up, the terrain in the country seems to have changed. a lot of people think they know hillary clinton. can hillary be hillary if she wins? will she be able to maintain the level of international engagement? what has happened with bernie sanders challenge and whatnot changed that? i'm interested if hillary can be hillary. hilary: for 15 or 20 years she was one of the top two or three most admired women in the world. it was only when she actually sought political power for herself that all of a sudden no, no, go away. we don't like you anymore. [applause] she hasn't changed. i do think the perception of whether or not it is ok for her
to be unapologetically and a pantsuit seeking power -- let me finish. then you can trash me. i do think she has a kind of broad-based optimistic view of our engagement in the world. alex said the country is feeling dismal. the most optimistic population in the country are 15 to 30-year-olds. if they want to measure ourselves by the way the children feel, we should feel we are on the right track. that doesn't mean there isn't a lot to fix whetherr