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climate change is real so we can debate what we can do to mitigate climate change and reduce it and hopefully turn this back one day. a real issue. again, we talk about the drought, that israel. we talk about the wildfires that are now the new normal we see every year, that is because of i'm a change. moving, in a smart way, toward renewable and cleaner energy resources -- sources. i support secretary clinton and present net obama's moving in this direction. there is no reason we cannot be the superpower for clean energy. do not disagree but i think it is worthwhile to point out everything should be about balance. it cannot be at the expense of what human beings on the planet need now. while i support renewable and cleaner energy sources, i also support coal and petroleum and , using those
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resources as we move toward a new cleaner energy paradigm. >> let's move on to public safety and gun control. have been critical of the number of permits issued by the sheriff. if your daughter is at school and there is a gunman on campus, would you rather have someone on campus with a concealed weapons permit or wait for the police to arrive? >> i would rather have those with gone to the training take care of it. i worry about someone having a permit pull out the gun and start shooting. the issue of community safety and gun violence is hotter than that. this is a problem in congress because they will not allow people to go out and collect data. maybe it does make a safer and maybe it does not, but we ought what is the impact of
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laws like the assault weapons ban and the a ban on clips. we ought to be studying it. right now, republicans in congress will not let us pass a bill to allow us to collect it and allow cdc to study the data. california stepped up to the plate. , they willegislators start doing that study. we have got some of the best doctors and scientists here locally. let's actually do what we need to do to keep the community safe. >> would we be all safer with guns? >> me thousand people will be safer. about thebeen made quantity i issued. it might lead someone to conclude i just want to put a gun in someone's hand. nothing could be further from the truth. we took 400 guns out of the hands of bad guys.
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i screen everybody and that them as well as i can. they have to go through courses and safety much like a drivers license. from thatart continued course of good decision-making or conduct, then your driver's license gets revoked. i am one of the few sheriffs in the state that continue to monitor folks with good decision-making after they get their permit, but at the end of the day, i gave a thousand people he ability to protect themselves and their families in a can -- and increasingly dangerous world. >> i would be curious how those folks got through the >>. -- through the cracks. a weapon that can be used for
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mass -- mass killing's. this is not about second amendment. days, weo wait five ought to do the same background checks with folks with concealed carry permits. >> 2-3 month, sometimes zero, sometimes five. i have a process where continue to monitor people afterwards. can only make a decision based on what i have not otherwise legally prohibited, they demonstrated good decision-making to the extent we can investigate, if they can demonstrate personal safety. it does not mean it is carte blanche. i will be quick to revoke them. move to the next
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subject. >> you have expressed reservations about dashcam video. you support the release of officer-involved shooting's and what do you -- have you done to make -- more transparent in this regard? >> we are doing testing, body cameras deployed right now. , like i toldight the governor, they need to stay out of this. body cameras will happen as a without theution need for the legislature to intervene. the problem, it is very expensive. $7 million per year to store the video. that means less other services and fewer deputies. the other problem is the question of whether they are public record or not. noise on both of
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sides that they want to be private as part of a criminal .nvestigation until the question is resolved, it will be difficult for me to go to body cam. people deserve privacy rights as well. >> i am all in favor of body cameras tear the more information we have, the better. the men and women out there protecting the community have a difficult job and they have got to make split-second decisions. they can get it right 99% of the time but the 1%, we have to be transparent and we have to learn from that. that is what we do in the medical profession. everything right 99% of the time that the one part -- the one mistake, you have got to be transparent and learn from it. otherwise you would road public trust. that is what bothers me.
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this is really disturbing and it the circle the lack and keeping information from coming that is the wrong thing to do. let's look at this and learn from it to prevent the next accident. >> a slightly different opinion. have the additional burden of maintaining the integrity of the investigation. it is not just what our emotional sense would have us do . while it might be beneficial for the department or people clamoring for the release of a video and one case, it should not make policy. thepolicy should be for entirety of the profession and not what feels good at the time. during thety investigative process should be maintained. >> very good. time for one more question.
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we will modify the time allowed for the answer so we have time for your closing statements as well. the question goes to bob. killing one ofto sheriff joan -- jones'deputies as well. should the death penalty the be allowed in california or should cap appointment be left to the federal government? >> if i was sitting there, i would want justice here justice can be informative -- of the death penalty. the problem is the death penalty does not bring closure to family spirit people sit on death row for years on end. we're talking about potentially life in prison without the possibility of parole. that could bring closure much quicker. i will ask the
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question generally and not with the suspect of my deputy press is murder. no one is on death row by accident. they all and their way to death row. you are right that the system is broken on death row and the initiative to inform the death penalty is so important. it shortens the time and andires them to work reduces the cost for everybody. the death penalty needs to be a tool but it needs to be reformed by the initiative. mr. bera: i agree the death penalty as it currently exists is broken. part of the reason why i look at reforming the death penalty and i look at life in prison without the possibility of parole, i do think it will help families find closure. it will bring a resolution much quicker. saveones: i would rather
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it for closing arguments. >> very good. it is that time in the broadcast for closing statements. by coin toss, sheriff jones, you have the opportunity to go first and you have 90 seconds. >> this is not a race of unknowns. in many respects, is a race among to incumbents. four years in congress and six years as sheriff. the best predictor of future performance is past performance. i have run one of the largest sheriffs departments in the country. i'm in charge of over 2000 men and women and a half $1 billion budget. cutting tens of millions of dollars in wasteful spending and operating costs, i have create a the first ever youth services and community relations unit during that time and i've come up with innovative technological programs that were the first of their caught -- first of their
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kind in the nation to use my political platform to stand up for what is right and what is best for public safety. evenst the governor and against the president, it was necessary. during that time, the constant has not enjoy that much success. he has not done a bill out of the committee, the first step in the legislative process. best protector of future performance is past performance. i have a demonstrated record of success and leadership in the sheriffs department that i will take with me to washington. i want to thank you for hosting and thank our sponsors for asking questions and thank my wife and daughter in the audience and my two sons. onook forward to your vote november 8. those watching at home, thank you. those in the audience. campaigns are about choices and there are two clear choices in the campaign.
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the sheriff talks about saving money but what about the $10 million? a jury did not believe you and they ruled against you. repeatedly, yesterday, another lawsuit that was settled. we saw a lawsuit that was settled. there is a pattern. you proud of the four years have served. what we have accomplished here is remarkable. we are trying to break through the gridlock and get democrats and republicans working together. we have grown the caucus to close to 100 members of congress, democrats and republicans. work wely proud of the have done here in the district. that is where the focus has been. nearly 7000 individuals, others, veterans, and
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getting social security benefits, medicare benefits. is about making a difference in people's lives. a has been an honor to be member of congress for the last four years. to have be my honor your vote on november 8. thank you. >> thank you so much for sharing your views tonight. we covered a lot of ground. thank you of course to the studio audience for remaining quiet the entire time. we appreciate it. if you want to applaud, now is your chance. [applause] thank you to our panelists and and thankournalists you to everyone at home watching online and watching on the broadcast and listening on the radio. election day is just weeks away and your last day to register to vote in california is monday,
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october 24. thank you for joining us. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016] ♪
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a debate for the new hampshire senate seat here now until election day, follow key debates from the house, senate and governor races from the c-span network, c-span.org, and the c-span radio app. history unfolds daily. debate between the candidates running for governor of delaware. they discuss school funding, the death penalty, and climate change. this is about an hour. >> live at the university of delaware, this is delaware debate. >> good evening.
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on behalf of delaware public media on the senate for communication, would like to welcome you to the delaware debate, 20 16. these debates are made possible with the financial support and additional support -- joining me to co-moderate the hoffman, dr. lyndsay associate director of the center for political communication at the university of delaware and james dawson, politico -- political reporter. our first debate this evening is -- the the candidate candidates this evening. includes democrat john carney and republican colin panini --bn bonini. openingg a one minute
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, limited to one minute and 30 seconds, a one minute rebuttal the opportunity afterwards for follow-up discussions. the university of delaware and we are taking -- online questions from members of the public. responses in this portion are limited to one minute. each candidate will have a minute for closing statements. our live audience here on the university of delaware campus understands there will be no applause during tonight's's debate. a coin dos -- a coin toss earlier to determine the order to determine the order. we will begin with colin bonini who has the first opening statement. mr. bonini: we get very strict instructions before the debate and i noticed in one of the
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instructions come it's a free hairstyle and makeup would be available. i am here only for the free makeover. i do appreciate that. i think the choice in the election is very clear. , oran do more of the same we can change course. i would argue delaware must change course. at our economy, public schools, crime in the downstate, i think delaware is facing extraordinary isllenges and my contention simply doing more of the same as voting for more of the same, you will get more of the same. i think the choice tonight is very clear. you can vote for more of the same, and we have a really good candidate here, a good guy, or i am kindly ask you to support strong change and i kindly ask you to support me for governor. thank you very much. mr. carney: good evening.
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for a lot of us, delaware is a great place to live and work and raise our families. for too many of our neighbors, the opportunities are too few. i grew up in claymont and most of my neighbors worked in the industrial facility along the delaware river. todayare so few out there . the first priority for the next governor has to be creating jobs for working families. talk about the strength of our state without talking about the strength of the largest city. the violence in wilmington is terrell -- terrorizing families and making it difficult to have a positive business climate downtown. part of the solution has to be schools. we have jumped from one reform to the other for too long. the most important thing we can strategy andick a stick to it. i am running for governor
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because our state needs somebody with the vision and courage to lead our state. thank you for coming tonight. >> we will get started with questions. , wilmington has been referred to as murder town usa since 2011, 765 people have been shot and 132 of them have died from gun violence pair what will you do as governor to reduce the number of deaths and injuries from gun violence? >> whatever is necessary. if there has been a greater failure in our political >>, and this is not a party thing, in the violence in wilmington, i would like to know what it is. i think we need a governor and general leadership up and down this ise who will say unacceptable. if we have to combine police forces, you do it.
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if you have to in state police, you do it. you have to build substations in those communities, you do it. the bottom line here is, i think the first thing that has got to change this we need the courage to say that this is unacceptable. i think greater enforcement is the answer. .hatever that solution is combining police forces, bringing state police and, we need more police in those neighborhoods integrated into the community so the violence will stop. wilmington cannot make progress until the people feel safe. theink it is one of greatest failures of our political culture here in delaware and we need to elect a governor who will say this was not no matter what i have to do. >> one minute for a rebuttal. this is a big problem and it has got to be a top priority. need a different approach for
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law enforcement and i have been in the neighborhoods and approached these kids. we need to do a better job with law enforcement and a different approach and more of a community-based approach where law enforcement and police are working with members of the community. we have to importantly address root causes of these problems and that is academic failure early on in school. we have to make sure the kids in wilmington get a much better education than today. the problem has gone back generations. withed a governor to work legislatures and all the school districts involved to put in place -- put in place a plan for the city so every child in neighborhoods in the city of wilmington gets a good education and an opportunity to participate in the increasingly difficult and more competitive economy that we have today. >> at this point, i have to cut you off for time, >> there is a
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slight disconnect. >> 15 seconds, we will move to stop. you have 15 seconds and then it will say stop. now for a time follow-up conversation and i want to encourage you to have the conversation and we will be here. i will turn it back to lindsay huffman. >> we have talked a lot of out wilmington so far. a report from the department this year shows crimes like robbery and burglary and assault and weapons law violations are on the rise in this city. what will you do can to combat crime? >> we will come back to you. mr. bonini: exactly right -- >> exactly right. smaller scale in smaller communities. in the case of dover, just like
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wilmington, you are talking about local police and law enforcement that have that as the primary responsibility. you talk about the delaware state police and officials report to the governor and they have to provide the leadership of and down the state to move more toward a community-based approach to policing, where law enforcement is seen as somebody notng in to a neighborhood to occupy or approach everybody is if they are a criminal, but to work with the community to address the unique crime problems in each of the small towns. >> the crime and over is close to my heart. , there is ar shooting within two or three blocks of my oma matter. it seems like every month now. is we need more
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police. not be thehat might clinically correct thing to say you cannotth is, better yourself until you feel safe in your communities. of the rural areas, we need more state troopers. they have been understaffed for years. the trial 911, it might be fortified minutes before you see a trooper. i did government has a responsibility to provide resources. quickly, on the right track here, prosperity solves so many of the problems. and feelle are working safe and their families will be safe in economic environments, they are getting up and going to good jobs, solves a lot of the crime and drug outcomes. thaterity and policies
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drive the economy -- >> we will visit the issue moving forward and we want to stay track and move forward to another topic. i do not know if an hour would be enough to discuss wilmington. james will be posing this question to mr. carney. >> the corporations continue to pull jobs from delaware headquarters were moved to boston and they laid off recently. is it worth giving out millions of dollars of tax break to these companies were should the state's more on local businesses? priority fore top the next governor and the legislator, to help with the transition of delaware's economy to more of an industrial age like the jobs on the delaware river, to more of an innovation economy. university of delaware has to be
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right at the forefront in developing some of those venues here, and we just cut a ribbon earlier the week -- earlier in the week with the innovation center there. rely is that we can long gone. i think it probably had 35,000 employees in our state when i was a kid. when the announcement was made in december that they would to 66 they were down hundred and right after that announcement, they announced the release of 1700. we are less than 5000, very successful in getting the headquarters of two of the three companies would spin out, headquartered here, but the economy for the future, it will be more about small businesses, that is aboutd creating a climate where businesses can be successful and thrive. government does not create jobs. they create a climate where
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businesses can be successful. they fund infrastructure so businesses can get their products to market. university of delaware state talentity, the businesses need increasingly, it is about talent and workforce in terms of where the jobs will go. delaware is not a place where people are bringing their businesses and there is a reason. i believe ceo's's and business leaders were asked why are you not bringing her jobs to delaware, and her answers were your government is too big, your public schools are not good enough and utility rates are too high. to do toxactly what bring jobs to delaware and a strong governor could help fix all of those problems. i think john is right that the economy is changing. anare looking at more of arch and style. i do not give up on those jobs. a state government would
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create an environment where the business folks want to grow their jobs, taking those issues specifically, i think we could do it. i am excited, if we get strong leadership, that we will create an environment where businesses will come here. it is not happening now. >> let's get into the follow-up conversation. saidat relates to what you in the opening statement, an opinion piece written in the past sunday's news journal. put the blame for a stale economy on those currently in office. that goes to both of you because both of you have been in office for a long time. he said that new blood is needed and fresh thinking to revive a stale economy. he may be advocating for more republicans to merge in leadership, what should voters do to bring change instead of more of the same? you too can discuss from there. mr. carney: i have been clear
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about the plans to improve the public education system, starting with quality, urgent -- early education for all kids, particularly from disadvantaged backgrounds in our state. it includes getting resources in the classrooms so the teachers have the resources a need and the students have what they need to be successful. the focus is on making sure every student, the career and college ready at graduation and graduates from school and puts a premium on higher education as part of that. same thing with jobs in the economy. we have an extensive plan. i recommend those in the audience listening to us and watching us maybe on tv, to look at our plan for growing the economy. you have to compete every day. you are telling me to stop it i do not see any -- >> this is a moderated discussion. you can converse with each other as much as you please. >> i thought there was a clock.
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the point about ready to work, of all the employers that have come to us and talked about setting up a facility, i have never heard the issue of you are not a right to work state so we will go to somewhere else. i do not know whether that is the solution. >> it is because those companies are in south carolina, and georgia, and tennessee, and i got into a very interesting with a strong at forget for labor unions. he was screaming at me about right to work and try to physically intimidate me, which is funny because i'm a big guy. we did not agree on this finally asked him, what is the average wage of an auto worker in delaware. he said autoworkers make less money than -- in right to work states the non-right to work states.
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the average is zero. there are not any. the bottom-line is, right to work does not have to be statewide. we can negotiate what it looks like. right to work is a component of it, but i think the entire argument, and your initial point was who'd is to blame and it is all of us. republicans controlled half the general's assembly for a while. it is all of us. i do not think there is an evil plan. we have created an environment where businesses do not feel well the delaware and we have to work together to change that perception. i think having a conservative leaning governor who is pro-business i think would go a long way. >> we could talk about this for a while but we have other topics and this one i think is quite
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important. we are moving on to the issue of education. james will be posing this question. >> mr. bonini, school funding remains an issue, with the improvement commission advocating waving funding for schools. believe a company as of look at schools is needed? why or why not? >> yes, absolutely, and the bottom line is that every dollar in the public education system should follow the student wherever the student is. resources in the higher priority resources, absolutely. problem toignificant real education reform is our funding system. from university
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of delaware and have a degree in science, you probably cannot figure out what the funding system is. it is difficult and complex and the money frequently does not get down to the classroom where everyone believes it belongs. the short answer is absolutely. we need to look at fundamentally changing our public education funding system. the bottom line is the money should follow that student down to the classroom. mr. carney: >> a one minute rebuttal. mr. carney:in delaware, we do not have an underfunded education system. could we use additional resources and classrooms with a high percentage of disadvantages students, -- disadvantaged students, we could. and the principal and the needs of that population. atalked to the principal booker t washington in dover and , if he were given
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additional educational dollars and he got some, what would he do with it? he said he would put in place a day program and they did that their kids alone. i asked dr. brown what he would do and he said he would hire social psychologist because he had so many kids that came to the classroom with problems and trauma. different schools have different needs. it is frankly fairly well funded. >> i would invite mr. bonini to participate unless panelists have a follow-up. we are not underfunded. we are in the top 10 in most of it comes from the state. it is not a resource issue. the key here is getting those resources down to the classroom. when i tell people, who should
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be responsible for school reform and i say it is parents, teachers, input -- and principles in that order, and john's gave two good examples, they know exactly what the true issues the students are facing is. those resources out of the well-intentioned programs and bureaucracies we have created and get them into i think you will start to see tremendous progress. >> what is your position on state funding for higher education that goes beyond workforce development? >> i am sorry. let him answer first. >> someone asked me the other day, and i have the working as a member of congress on behalf of the people of delaware to address college affordability. we have seen the cost of higher education going up on almost an annual basis.
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to keephe best ways college tuition for delaware students is to make sure the legislature and the governor put money in the budget to support institutions. delaware state university, delaware technical and community college. the institutions will be the drivers of the economy of the future. we talked about the incubator going in down there. a lot of things are happening at delaware state university. only way they can do that is if they are well resourced. bituniversity has quite a of capacity to attract private dollars from donors and private individuals, which delaware state does not quite have. sure we follow through on the commitment to higher education when we know the economy five years from now will be dependent as
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much as the success of our institutions of higher education. >> john is dead on right and my campaign manager will hate it and i say this. i will include private education as well. i think we can be proud of higher education culture in delaware and i think they are part of the solution. real quickly, the cost of college has got to be addressed. me, hess quoting, tell went to dartmouth with $6,500 and it is now $60,000. despite his gray, he is not much older than i am. >> let's move onto the next topic. we are moving on to environment and energy at this point. this question to john carney. it is coming. >> i have the opposite one.
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thank you. >> and easier one. [laughter] >> there is an essay to follow. you have said one of the most serious threats facing the state is climate change and the seat let -- sealevel rise. what would you introduce to reduce these threats? >> it is a tough issue. you need really national and international policy. that is where the economist has gather behind a plan in the administration on the issue internationally. we have had recent agreements which for the reduction -- for on the focus has to be coastal resiliency.
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we can argue about what is causing global warming but it is in this -- indisputable. most of our energy and resources in my view, and some of this is already going on, into coastal resilience projects. we had a big project with what was a freshwater wetland, overwhelmed by salt water because of through the dunes. result ofartly the storms and the rising sea letters -- sealevel spear that is where we ought to put our resources. >> regardless of what one thinks and the reality is we have to one dramatic challenges thing is that the state has to get its act together. i have a community in my district that the department of
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national resources 20 years ago will be underwater. it is not underwater. they approved a line out to it. talk about the mixed messages of, we have got to pull back and stop development and be tremendously concerned about rising sea letter -- sea levels. i think the state government needs to be more clear about what is going on, and the bottom line is the folks who are -- those of my district -- beach replenishment is vitally important. i do believe we should have the resources focused on those areas. i believe money has been spelt -- i believe the money that has been spent in these areas doesn't make sense to me. >> where do you stand on climate change and will you adapt as governor? proof one: is there
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way or another? i think the truth is mostly out, that is one way or another. regardless of how we got there, the stream is lower than it used to be. -- there's noing question about it. we can have an argument until the cows come home. me bottom line is that to means the resource we have in state government needs to be focused on those communities. if you look at the department of natural resources and other places, there are a lot of well-intentioned programs but the bottom line is the resources we can generate that a rebuilding beaches, that rebuild barriers that stop erosion, that stop sea water drainage in
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professional areas, happens all the time in my district, and the bottom line the state governments cruel is to fund that infrastructure. >> i think james would like to throw a new issue out there. >> this goes for mr. carney. you mentioned this earlier, but agriculture being delaware's largest industry, what do you see being the state's role in coping with -- and what comes of those conditions. carney: if you look inland the bayused to be there, you have the contamination of foreign land with salt water incursion. places just face the music. i think that is what the fish and wildlife plan for that area, they have reestablished -- they
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are going to let nature takes take its place. that is going to be a freshwater or a salt water bay or part of the delaware bay. in farmers and landowners that area, you have to look out using the presentation. >> you have bay. -- you have me. the'm going to move onto next topic. james is going to take us to the issue of refuse spending and balancing the state budget. recent budget forecasts indicate the state made significantly less money to spend next year. the secretary of finance that it is a wake-up call for the next
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general assembly. if elected, what tough choices will you be willing to make to balance the budget? that is one of the reasons to elect me. i'm not afraid to make those choices. and i think anyone who has taken more than five minutes to look at my record no i'm willing to take the tough stance. and i may be wrong -- the bottom line is delaware has a spending problem, not a revenue problem. we bring in per capita some of the highest amounts of money for the entire country. our problem is spending, not revenue. i will tell you we have to have an adult conversation about spending, and spending is about 70% give or take, maybe less of our operating budget. it is in state employees who benefit and medicaid.
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any adult conversation about budget issues who do not address those two things quite frankly i don't think is being honest. i put together proposals on both of those issues. people say you really want to reduce the workforce, yes you do. i think we need to standardize how medicaid and state employee health care is track. i think we can save anywhere from 10 to 5% -- 10 percent to 25%. i think our solutions are almost exclusively -- >> i would argue this is the for people to vote for me. -- rep. carney: i would argue this is the best reason to vote for me.
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it has been a revenue and a spending problem. manages the cost of health care and that is a big number. and it has been growing at a rate -- we have to manage those calls better. over $1 spending is billion per year. on a $4 billion budget. it has to be better managed. while colin has been in the senate, a company revenue is going away. $400 billion to $500 billion number. haven't voted for state budget in 22 years. the first question is why and if selected when you sign? two reasons, one is
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we spend too much money. i proposed a bill in the mid 90's that put caps on spending and quite frankly if we had passed that bill and lived by -- stick -- lived by the lived by those standards -- i think there is each amend its lack of transparency in how we do the budget. we pass the budget for billion -- $4s late in june billion late in june. we create an entire bureaucracy for animal control. nobody was even in there. reasons are it is too expensive and i think it lakhs transparency. can respond or we can move to another topic. >> i would just underscore the
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point that health care costs alone are becoming the budget because they're growing at a rate that is unsustainable. frankly when you are losing revenues like the state is currently. then you have a big problem. the next governor's going to come in on day one and have a 253 hundred million dollar deficit, and that is going to be hard to deal with. >> i am going to table this discussion as well. but from the bottom line, let's go to politics and the personal. we will pose this question to mr. carney. markeleight years of the administration. the state had its last republican governor in 1993. if elected how a you differentiate your administration from proceeding and where you go from here? >> obviously i talked a minute carney: obviously i
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released a plan -- i want to move from the industrial age to an age of innovation. i tried this before. i ran for governor eight years ago. i am better prepared today then i ran eight years ago to address the economic challenges that the state is facing. the budgetary challenge that the state is facing, the health care challenge that the state is facing. understand better than ever how competitive we have to be economically. we have to be playing at the top in public education, in higher education, in the quality of our infrastructure. about at every level, and the workforce has to be second to none.
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these are different conditions that they were eight years ago. there are some things -- there are a lot of things the administration has put in place to we will build on. >> you have one minute. mr. bonini: i think the bottom line is we had 20 years of a one-party rule in the governor's office, and i think it is going to be very difficult. it is going to be difficult for any democratic governor to make the decisions that need to be made, because my argument has obviously been why weren't they made in the last 24 years? i think delaware has to change course. and i am very up front in telling people this is a bright whot guy, a friend of mine is absolutely competent to be delaware's next governor.
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the bottom line is we have to change course. i think the bottom line here, like i said in my opening statement, do we want more of the same and i think i'm representing a big significant change. rep. carney: i said how i would do things differently, and the fact of the matter is it is a very different world. economy is different than it was eight years ago, certainly wil different than when i was growing up as a kid. do things differently. sameat they can have the opportunity of kids to grow up in the suburbs, then we have to do things differently.
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most importantly the next governor has to be able to work with the legislature. i see a lot of legislatures here as well to do things differently , and to do things that will be effective in educating kids. >> you may jump in. is it isi: my point going to be very difficult, regardless of how take on theoned -- teachers union, take on the trial lawyers, and i have a friend and a former speaker of the house in oklahoma. oklahoma is already. .- all red they have the same problems. the issue is giving this political freedom of movement to accomplish things. and it means picking fights with people you don't want to pick fights with. fighterwe need a street
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governor. i think john is absolutely sincere but i think it is going to be difficult -- >> let me add something. carney: i don't think it is about picking fights. i have worked in congress for the last seven years. represent in delaware, they expected me to go down there and make friends on both sides of the aisle and get things done. and we were able to do that in a congress that was incredibly partisan were not very much got done. addressnk we have to the presidential election going on right now. you are an early supporter of presidential candidate donald trump, endorsing him at a harrington rally in april, since then a lot has changed. do you still support mr. trump for president?
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mr. bonini: the answer is yes, and what he said is unacceptable. time in lockerf rooms, it is absolutely inappropriate. but the bottom line for me is two core messages that i think are critical and i think this country needs to talk about. one is that our government is broken in a lot of ways, and i think in washington that is absolutely true. our government is broken. second is people are out of touch with experiences of the average person. rep. carney: i think hillary clinton will make a great president. i think we need a woman to be president, that will be special and different. hillary clinton knows how to walk across the aisle, notwithstanding all the animosity that she captured from the other side. >> now we are going to hear from
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our students and online questions. thank you for fielding those questions. in this section you have one minute for an answer. the first question comes from from thege, a senior university of delaware. marijuana has been decriminalized for the past couple of years. what is your stance? mr. bonini: i actually favor legalization. the reason i favor legalization is because we basically already have. we have decriminalized marijuana in delaware, possession and delaware where it is to fact factal -- where it is the -- it is defacto legal. let's regulate it and get junk dealers out of business. by the way i didn't agree with
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that policy, but that is the policy we have and i think we need to be adults about it and understand that the message, the public policy decision on marijuana has been made, and if we do that we can keep it out of the hands of kids and quite reducet -- quite frankly the jug trade. rep. carney: i don't support legalization, i support the current status of decriminalization. i will remind people the program is not up and running. it seems to me before we take the step to recreational marijuana, we have some states that are doing it right now, we ought to see with the experiences. friends in the congress is from colorado. they have some unintended consequences with respect to being on the cutting edge with respect to that. i would like to see medical marijuana up and running before

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