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they want to see islamic extremists defeated just as we do. again, moving forward in that way is going to be important. on the other side of the world, , the relationship between the number one and number two economies in the world. china and the u.s.. you mentioned china. present elect trump has shown a desire to shake up arrangements by receiving a congratulatory phone call from the president of taiwan. do you think this was a mistake, or is it time to revisit the one china policy? or is it more of a negotiating gambit that has more to do with trade than security policy. don'tetraeus: i really
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know, without knowing how it was arranged and what the briefings were and whether people consider the pros and cons. i would like to think, and i think there's some foundation that this is shaking it of event. this is a president elect that has said he wants to be unpredictable. you have to be careful because you don't want to be seen as unpredictable in a crisis where they think they need to take the first shot before you do. in some situations, that can be useful. by europeancomments leaders that say, we really do have to get serious about spending more on defense. yes, we were lectured by secretary gates and other u.s. leaders, but this is different. as guys really serious. s guy is really serious. i don't think you want to shake the one china policy, nor do you
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forget the taiwan relations act, which you want to remind people about as well. deft and delicate deft and delicate stuff. i think a little bit of a disturbance of the force is not all bad. but you have to think about what is next and then what do they do and then what do we do and so forth down the road. issue,: another pressing much debated, and now with the new administration will be confronting possibly new realities with iran. should, and more to the point perhaps, do you think the u.s. will withdraw from the iran nuclear treaty? let me put that in context. it is always really good if you a discretes at ths action and put it into context. it seems that our objectives are
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to make sure iran never gets a nuclear weapon and number two, malign activity is countered. that together with our gulf state partners and israel. if you look at the deal, which iran is generally abiding by. there have been two violations of the amount of heavy water they can store, but they quickly got rid of that when it was identified, to be fair, there are positive elements and significant downsides. enriched in rainy them is gone. the plutonium path to a bomb is no longer. the deeply buried site, that one is now a research facility. that is the one that is publicly
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known only the united states could crack. there is a reasonably obtrusive inspections regime. years,ther ends in 10-15 and there is no provision for what happens after that. if you think your way through this, they also have access to frozen assets around the world, reintegrated into the economy once the sanctions that used to cause the sanction on oil exports are off, they are getting a lot more revenue. some of which is without question going to the forced toary guards fuel mischief in the region. eigh that, figure out what we can do to complement the deal, and it is very unclear
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that you could reimpose sanctions if we were the only ones that conclude we should and our observation of that deal. what else can you do? how about the white house and congress, both controlled by republicans, get together and say, we will have a statement of national policy that iran will never be allowed to enrich weapons grade uranium? the iranians shouldn't be bothered by that because they have sworn they would never pursue a nuclear weapon so they no big deal. we maintain the capability that u.s. central command has had and that contingency plan developed during the time i was privileged to command the organization. beyond that, to get together with israel our ally to figure out how we can more effectively
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counter the malign activity of iran. we are not out to start a big war in though gulf. we want to preserve maritime freedom of navigation and the flow of energy resources, even though we are much less dependent on mideast oil than we were before our energy revolution. nonetheless, that fuels the economy of the world which we are part of. it still does matter. we want to preserve that and ensure that is the case. i think that is how i would go forward in this case. i was just out in abu dhabi, riyad and i have a reasonable feel for what is going on out there. there is a degree of uncertainty. a transition of one party to another already. not a huge amount of knowledge about the views in detail of
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those who are going to be in new positions. i think that could be sorted out in short order. michael: i would like to turn to one of the major themes of winston churchill's career and sq how it applies to the and ask you how it applies to the present. are strong ore weak and how are we comparing to china? gen. petraeus: you can take our defense budget, and then take china's, and most of third of .ur budget the next seven or eight and then altogether, you would not equal what we have. there is no question chinese military defense spending has increased dramatically at a time
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when ours was either flat or when down. during sequestration, particularly bad blow. there is fraying of some elements. recapitalization that is needed. you take all of our aircraft carriers and flat decks. that is more than all the rest of the world put together. capability toous read the challenge is we have to operate globally. china and other countries generally focus closer to home, although china is building maritime expeditionary capability that gives them as far as the horn of africa and into the gulf. speaking, there is no question the chinese military is coming up. awayestion ours is far and the finest force in the world. also no question there are
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pockets of readiness challenges for our forces. there is a readiness crisis and other areas. if we can avoid sequestration -- for those who say you love the military, if you really do, and sequestration. that is a horrible way to budget. it destroys management in the department of defense. the second is pass a budget. let us know how much there will actually be. the additional amounts for overseas contingency operations added in. year,nough along in the even before you have started the fiscal year. enough so you can program it out. and do we need to add tens of billions of dollars to the bottom line, noting that is challenging because we want to other- one of the objectives is to keep the debt to gdp ratio going down which it
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has been gradually doing but is projected to go back up in another year or two as entitlement spending increases. we are going to have to come to grips with that. michael: i want to apologize for calling the iran nuclear deal a treaty. i inadvertently promoted it. not ratified. admirer ofare an winston churchill, which partially explains why you are with us evening. i wonder if you could reflect on what his example has meant to you in your life and career. again, i guessed it was the book, "last lion," really captured this individual and the extraordinary achievements. look is what happens
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when preparation meets opportunity. and you think about what he accomplished over the years in varied fields, even when he was performing all these other tasks for government, he was churning out book after book. he used toe quote have about history, but it was basically -- michael: history will be kind to him. gen. petraeus: because i intend to write it. he had a wit that was unbelievable. he could drink all night and all day and still be productive. wine andme a glass of i would be asleep in the chair. he is just extraordinary. i went to his house. just a funny aside. i guess it was when i was the central command commander, we would go to different countries that had forces in our region. i tried to get a couple of hours
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usually. if we were going to be at oxford, let's see this place on the way back to london or wherever we were staying to read one of the times, -- we were staying. one of the times i said, let's go to churchill's home. we come out of oxford and return. i said, this is the way. -- chartwell was his home. great great grandson's actually escorted. sense, this incredible he could paint, probably even after drinking. the literary compliments --\ accomplishments were amazing. he wrote about the field force
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in pakistan. all that stuff still rings true. i would read his work. it is all the same stuff we are still doing. the same customs, traditions, and everything else you are grappling with. to say that he achieved prodigious amounts in every different field he touched would be an understatement. he even managed to coin the phrase is that defined entire eras. the iron curtain. the cold war, all of this. really extraordinary. i have been to westminster and done something there at that great library, which is truly inspirational and educational and fun. and i go back out there in april. this is a guy that is
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exceptional in every regard, except i do think i could out run him. of that i have no doubt whatsoever. his idea of athleticism -- it was pulled low until he had 40. and it was drinking rose after that. the united states has just undergone a dramatic political convulsion and our cultural divisions seem very deep. to some, they seem intractable. are you an optimist or pessimist? i am a rational optimist. case, i teach a course called the north american decades. at north america 21 years into nafta.
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the integration that is so extraordinary. you cannot unwind of that. then you look at for revolutions, in each of which the u.s. is a leader or among the leaders. the i.t. revolution. the energy revolution. the manufacturing revolution, and the life sciences revolution. these are all extraordinary. they are all gathering momentum. some are ahead of others. examples of what has made america great in the past and i think what will make it great again in the future. combinations of factors. there is never a single factor that will explain it. whether you are a fan of fossil fuels or not, the fact is we did something extraordinary by going from 6 million barrels per day to 9.6 million barrels per day production in the space of about five years.
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that is unprecedented. no country has done anything like that. if you look at why that is, noting a lot of this is getting oil out of shale, also, by the way, natural gas. come to pass? china has double or more the amount of will and gas. in yet it only happened appreciable amounts in the united states. we invented the technology. deep directional drilling because you have to go horizontally. hydraulic fracturing. seismic big data, tying into the i.t. revolution. we have capital markets that are agile. we have small and medium enterprises that can vary rapidly build up technology. and can be fueled by these capital markets. we have property rights laws that allow owners to sell or lease the mineral rights
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under their lands. we have reasonable infrastructure for pushing around pipelines. all of these factors come together uniquely in the united states. yes, we are fortunate and blessed to have will and gas in the shale and water nearby, in most cases because it is liquid intensive process. only here has that happened. that gives me a degree of rational optimism. i steal that title from a book by matt ridley who writes about the sweep of mankind and time after time, mankind is confronted by a seemingly insurmountable obstacle. , the 30atever it may be years war, the black plague, finds a way to go around it or resolve it.
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rationalense, i am a optimist. the challenge for our country is we do have policy headwinds. there are shortcomings that can only be resolved by policies. one of these is infrastructure and investment. we very much need to improve productivity. you've got to increase that in particular. there are a lot of economists worried you cannot get that high growth because we just don't have the kinds of dramatic productivity gain that have been associated with previous times of high growth. to educate the workforce of the future. one of the challenges of the manufacturing revolution is technological displacement. we are talking about bringing manufacturing back to america. manufacturing output is at the highest of all time. it is here and it has come back in a number of ways.
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the jobs have not necessarily come back. manufacturing employment has gone like that. that is because of the rise of the robots. there is displacement from those kinds of jobs. and yet there are millions of jobs lacking people, and we got to train those the best we can. in some cases, you are not going to be able to do that. there ison reform, double the applicants every year for the h-1b visas. we should come to grips with that. we ought to come to grips with going to do with the 10 or more million people here without proper documentation. there needs to be a pathway for unskilled labor to come to the country legally and perform the tasks we don't have enough labor here in the u.s. agriculture and a variety of other fields. those are a handful of examples we talked about.
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one of the exciting -- the markets have taken an upswing because they think there is a real prospect for reduction in corporate tax rates, the third or fourth highest in the developing world. because of the prospect of a tax trillion inthe 2.9 profits firms will not bring back because the tax rates are so high. you won't get all of that, it is not all liquid. if you get 1.5 trillion of that. 15%, that isimes hundreds of billions of dollars for infrastructure investment right there and that is before you do public-private partnerships and other initiatives. these are the kinds of initiatives that are being talked about. speaker ryan has a whole host of these. again, working through those to
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attorneys policy headwinds into policy tailwinds enable us to capitalize in these four revolutions are opportunities for what is very much still the greatest country in the world. michael: i would love to open this to questions from the audience. we have a microphone over here. if you would like to ask the general a question, we would like to ask you to come to the microphone and ask your brief question. >> i have one question for you. u.s. were tohe come to a negotiation table for a grand bargain, what do you think are the realistic offers they could give to each other. when iran could offer to the u.s. and the u.s. could offer to iran. gen. petraeus: i think what was hoped,very cautiously the iran nuclear deal, the joint
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comprehensive land of action would lead to further achievements and other fields. it obvious we did not have any effect on the malign activities iran is pursuing. it certainly hasn't slowed their missile program. if anything, each of those has accelerated. those are areas of huge concern to our partners and allies in the region. into the coalition that we are part of in the fight against the islamic state in that region. i think this administration reached out and open hand on a number of occasions. i think president obama went above and beyond in trying to establish dialogue with the supreme leader and various talks with government officials. the challenge with iran is you cannot forget this is a state
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that is really two states. there is the traditional president that is elected, and this happens to be the quote moderate. they eliminate some of the real moderates, the council that approves whether you can run or not. but he is, compared to the others that were running, there were ministers and army navy, air force, and so forth. rhetorics in reasonable. and then you have the deep state, the revolutionary guard, the quds force, overseas individuals carrying out often very nefarious officials. you're not going to see another revolution on the streets of tehran.
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that state has actually gotten stronger during the period of sanctions. it is hard to see how that would ever relax its control. it has the support of the supreme leader who's up to her with some of the people over who's up here with some of the councils that surround him. the people over here, and there are tens of thousands of iraq on aouring into daily basis because there are i reallys, think this administration worked very hard to try to build bridges. to try to establish reasonable dialogue.
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maybe it is just our perspective, but i did not think we were asking for great deal. but clearly, iran is bent on achieving a degree of regional very least.the solidifying a shia crescent from damascus to lebanon, increasing their political control. ize iraq. lebanon aresunni militia that trained and equipped by iran with the quds force commander sometimes on the ground. that is very with very worrisome. they are -- they are very, very worrisome. they are led by individuals who
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were in detention centers who for murder and are individuals and they are in some cases members of parliament. you may leave iraq, but iraq will never leave you. there are certain very special attributes to the land of the tigris and euphrates that there are also maddening aspects of it, too. >> good evening and thank you for your service. you talked about private property rights being a boon to american innovation. some folks may not know but congress passed legislation and the president signed into law legislation that will recognize private property rights in outer space. gen. petraeus: can you rent or sell the mineral rights? >> billions and billions of
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dollars. you talked about the rise of robotization. terms ofary in unmanned systems has been on the forefront of that. people talking about thinking machines. where do you see that going in the years to come? gen. petraeus: let me just note that you raised a point that i think has not been recognized as fully as it might have been. i think there is a real revolution ongoing in the way we are is to conduct at least the kinds of wars we are engaged in in the greater middle east. it has been made possible by the enormous increase in unmanned aerial vehicles. in particular, the u.s. air force predators and reapers. in particular there because they have roughly 150 people as their end that fly it, payload
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it to read signals interpretation, the communication architecture to fly it from the u.s., bo uncing it off of satellites. ,f you take seven days a week 24 hours a day, that means it is multiple platforms and three plus shifts of these people performing these important tasks. this is really extraordinary. this is what is enabling us to fight in a very different way. we are enabling the iraqi security forces, not fighting on the front lines for them. andre doing training assistance, training and advice. equipping. we are certainly helping them with planning and a variety of other tasks. at the end of the day, they are the ones who are fighting and dying on the front lines for their country. i think that is what they want
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as well is what we want. there are five important lessons i think we should take from the middle east, the last 10-15 years. one that is very relevant, the first is ungoverned spaces in the north africa middle east central asia will be exploited by islamic extremists. it is a question of when. las vegas rules do not apply, what happens there will not stay there. spew violence, extremism, refugees. not just in neighboring countries but in some cases all the way to nato allies. the third is in responding, u.s. leadership is absolutely vital. in part because of the military assets, which are so incomparably greater than all the others put together, unmanned aerial vehicles times six or seven. and all the other capabilities.
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but we do want a coalition. churchill was right on this one, too, when he said the only thing worse than fighting with allies is fighting without them. coalition maintenance is hugely intensive work to read is worth it. we especially want islamic countries because this is a class that is existential for them. it is more of a clash within their civilization then between civilizations. in responding, there is a paradox. countering terrorist forces like the islamic state requires more force operations. you have to have forces on the ground. reconciliation, politics, local governments. basic service restoration. rule of law, communication. now we are able to help them do asrather than do it for them
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we had to do during the surge which i believe was absolutely vital or the country truly would have gone up in flames. now we can do this a different way. that is crucial because of the fifth lesson, recognizing we are in a generational struggle. this is not a struggle of the decade, surfing out of a few years. we will put a stake through the state, that islamic re has never been a question about that. it is just a question of how to do it without killing civilians and infrastructure. which is white is going slowly. wehas to be sustainable and have developed something that is sustainable because of the assets we have. the two metrics that matter most our blood and treasure. we have reduced dramatically the
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loss of life. very reduced. when youditure, compare to what we have spent in a single year in the surge in iraq or afghanistan, it is very reduced. these are sustainable. for those who say democracies , weot fight long wars have been added for 15 years and afghanistan. e situation is more fraught than i would like. we restricted the rules of engagement overly much. that has actually been relaxed now. this is actually, this is quite a dramatic development. the nextd of the day, steps will be what you are talking about. it is artificial intelligence. you are going to get to systems
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that are semi-autonomous. your wing man may be -- maybe you have a couple of wingmen. you will have that kind of situation. there will be situations in which will give conditions in a sense to the machines. as we do now to men, who are controlling machines. target, identify the there is no collateral, there is this, there is that. the political situation is ok it is not going to imperil our campaign, take the shot. i can see the day where you might do that to a machine that will be able to check those blocks because of its optics, because of its information. that is not too far down the road necessarily. it is really quite breathtaking what is happening in the space and also what is happening in cyberspace. wheel may'm afraid
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have time for one more question. >> thank you for your service. what is happening in the media and democratic party makes me go back to one of the highlights of the 2012 debate when obama kind of mocked romney. when he said he thought. utin, russia was our biggest enemy. what can you say obama failed to do or did do where these people are saying, putin picks the president. gen. petraeus: there is a very important development this afternoon. the dni and the director of the a pi have joined the director and the cia concluding together there is no question the russians seek to influence this election and do it to favor one candidate, obviously. that is quite important.
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it would have been nice if they had come forward and done that earlier. at least it has happened now. i think that is quite significant. backnk history will look and ask whether, could we have been more firm at a particular juncture? this is an individual who does keep pushing. if you can keep penetrating further, it seems as if he keeps on going. russia supported separatists in southeastern ukraine. againsty ran up ukrainian forces, they realize the cost was too high. we can look back and ask, should we not have given shoulder launched and i take missiles -- i-tank missiles?
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it is that kind of question we will look back at and wonder, could we have done that? to run tot going moscow with this thing on your shoulder. it comes down to those kinds of issues, i think. certainly there are others having to do with syria. ensuring there is no doubt in a mindtitor's or adversary's is that there will be a consequence for an action is awfully important. when we have not done that at various times, it has rebounded in the wrong way. all for yourk you excellent questions and for coming out this very cold night to the national churchill library and center. i hope you will return when we includingture guests the creator of house of cards, michael dobbs.
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mi six chief john scarlett and others. aeus.hanks to general petr [applause] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit]
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>> this weekend on american history tv, providence college history professor patrick breen examines the life of net turner. for slavery billion he led in 1831 and the uncertainty in the aftermath. in body the dramatic differences that existed in the black community.
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as some, including artists, decided to support the revolt while others elected to support the whites. >> than at 8:00, the evolution of advertising and marketing as a profession in the early 20th century and how consumer experiences changed. of just selling an automobile as a means of transportation, you can sell a car as prestige. >> and just before 9:00, the career of aar ii foroonist during the war the u.s. army stars and stripes magazine. >> he had avoided ideological outbursts and never allow the force in politics into careers. back home, he jumped into the fray with both feet.
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>> one of my favorite documents in the gallery is a draft version of what became the bill of rights. we usually refer to this as the senate markup. the senate took the amendments passed by the house and change them into 12 amendments. after the conference committee, sent to theendments states for ratification. 10 of the 12 were ratified by the states. >> at work of the national archives exhibit marking the 225th anniversary of the ratification of the bill of rights. >> now, president elect donald trump speaks at a retrieved victory rally in orlando, florida. he is introduced by florida governor scott and vice president elect mike pence.
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this is about an hour. ♪ >> good evening. this is a great night for the great state of florida. we have governor elect mike pence and governor elect donald trump here tonight. [applause] elect.r scott: president are you ready for jobs? are you ready to take back our country? are you ready to make america great again? back in 2010, my race was like donald trump's. insiders said you are a businessman, you cannot win. said, youl media cannot win. you in 2010, proved the pollsters wrong. you proved the pundits wrong.
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you got out and elected donald trump and made the state red. you said, we are going to have a fighter in the white house. a fighter for jobs. a fighter for the military. a fighter for law enforcement, taxpayers. we are not going to have somebody in the white house that kowtow's to the d.c. elite. we are going to have a president that will do what we have done in florida. jobs. job growth rate doubling e the national average in florida. you have made all of this happen. now we have the white house, somebody that is going to fight for the forgotten man and the forgotten women. you have done it day after day and you made it happen. now we have a president that is
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a good friend of mine, a businessman, a successful businessman. a father, a grandfather, a husband. he is going to turn this country around. drain the swamp. but i first get to introduce the vice president elect. somebody who has fought against obama knows what it is like to , be a governor. your vice president elect, mike pence. [applause] mr. pence: hello, florida. thank you, governor scott. i am mike pence.
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i am from indiana. in 34 days from today, because of your support, your hard work, and your prayers, i am deeply humbled to report i will raise my right hand and take the oath to become the 48th vice president of the united states of america. i came here tonight on a very personal level, just to say thank you. thank you for giving us the opportunity to serve. mostly, mostly i am here tonight as a fellow american. to say thank you, thank you to the people of america for voting -- the people of florida for voting to make america great again. thank you for doing your part here in the great state of florida to elect donald trump to become the 45th president of the
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united states of america. thanks to you. thanks to you, we will have a president who will rebuild our military. restore the arsenal of democracy. give our soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines," gourds the airmen,s and -- marines, coast guard' the training they need to accomplish their mission. we will have a commander in chief that will destroy and hunt down isis at its source. thanks to you, thanks to you we will finally have a president of the united states who will support the men and women in law enforcement across this nation at every level. and thanks to you, 34 days from today, we will have a president who will fight every day to put america back to work and make
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the american economy great again. we will have a president who will repeal obamacare, lock , stock and barrel. and replace it with free market reforms and more choice. we will have a president who will cut taxes, roll back excessive regulation, and we will have our president who will repeal every single unconstitutional executive order that barack obama signed into law. and thanks to you, thanks to you we will have a president who will renegotiate nafta, get us out of the transpacific deal, and he will make sure that trade means american jobs first. and thanks to you, we will have a president that will enforce the laws of this nation for the
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citizens of this nation and all who are legally here. we will build a wall. [applause] >> build the wall. build the wall. mr. pence: we will build the wall, we will uphold our laws. we will have a president who will end illegal immigration once and for all. and thanks to you, florida, we will finally have government as good as our people. government that works every day for the people and not the special interests. we will reform our ethics laws. and this president will drain the swamp. and thanks to you, florida, thanks to you we will have a president of the united states who will make appointments to the highest court in the land. that will uphold the sanctity of
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life, our second amendment, and all the god-given liberties enshrined in the constitution of the united states. thanks to you. so i'm here, men and women of florida, just to say thanks. thanks from the bottom of my heart. thank you for giving america a new president whose strength, whose vision, whose leadership will make america great again faster than you could possibly imagine. so i say with a grateful heart, it is my high honor and distinct a privilege to introduce to you a the president elect of the united states of america, donald trump. [applause]
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♪ [proud to be an american] mr. trump: thank you. let's start by saying, merry christmas. merry christmas. i am here for one reason. to say thank you to the incredible people of florida. what a group. as you know, florida is my second home. in many ways it is my first home.
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i love this state. i love the people of this state. you propelled a grassroots movement, like the world has never seen before. look at these people. how many people are here? man. that is a lot of people. [applause] mr. trump: they say we broke the record tonight. we broke the record. incredible. incredible people. the patriots in this audience stood up to the global special interest and delivered a historic win for the american worker. american worker. mr. trump: with your votes -- [cheers] mr. trump: friend or foe? friend or foe?
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i think it is friend. friend.friend b loud the citizens of this country declare to the world that from now on it will be america first, america first. [applause] mr. trump: let me also take a moment to really recognize and thank our terrific governor rick scott for being here tonight. and pam bondi. who is in the audience someplace. she is an incredible person. these are truly amazing people. i love you too, darling. i even love the guy that said i love you. what can i say? he is a rough looking dude down there. i also want to give a special thanks to you, the men and women in the united states military.
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[applause] mr. trump: we are in your debt, and we will never let you down. now you know, we did very well with many different groups. we did fantastically well with the african-american community. we did fantastically well with the hispanic community. we have a lot of people here tonight from the india community, hindus. we did great with the hindus. in fact, where are they? we have a big group. there they are. i want to thank you. you folks were amazing. they went out and voted and they were fantastic. and we did well with women. women. [applause]
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mr. trump: but you know, we -- by the way, how about the evangelicals? how good was that? a world record. evangelical christians, we set the all-time record in the history of elections. evangelicals. we are going to honor our troops and it really begins with restoring respect for our great american flag. is that right? we are going to defend the flag . our heroes fought and died for to protect. i want to tell you, i do not like when i see people burning our flag. i do not like it. i do not like it. i do not like it. you do not like it. and we are going to try and do something about it. we are going to do something about it. we're also going to rebuild our badly depleted military. we have the greatest people in the world in our military and we
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are going to rebuild our depleted military and we are going to finally take care of our great, great veterans. where are the veterans tonight? [cheers] mr. trump: america -- >> usa, usa, usa. mr. trump: america pursues this vast military power in the hopes that we do not have to use it, but will be prepared if we have to. there has rarely been a time when we need military power more than it is right now, and we will have it. it will be peace through strength. peace through strength. at the same time, our foreign
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policy needs a new direction. we have spent $6 trillion in the middle east and now it is in worse shape than it has ever been before. years of horror. and look at what is happening over there now. and look at what happened. it is a horrible thing. we are going to do everything we can and we will get it straightened out one way or another. but just think of it, all of that money, all of those lives. and i mean lives on both sides, tremendous lives, tremendous numbers of people. and we have nothing. it is 15 times worse than it was when we started. we will start using our head and we will do things right and try to patch that up. we are going to help people. we will build safe zones. we are not having them come over. we are going to build safe zones
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in syria. we will build safe zones. and we are going to get the gulf states to pay for the safe zones. and we will try to help the people. meanwhile, at home, our infrastructure is crumbling. our schools are failing, and our workers cannot find good paying jobs. you know that. we are going to change that so fast, your heads are going to spin. instead of rebuilding foreign nations, it is time to rebuild our nation and that is what we are going to do. for too long, we have been moving from one reckless intervention to another, countries that most of you have never even heard of before. it is crazy. and it is going to stop. a trump administration will
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focus on the united states. that means, crushing isis rapidly and defeating radical islamic terrorism. importantly, america will also stand with the cuban people in their long struggle for freedom. i want to appreciate -- i tell you what, their support has been unbelievable. their support has been unbelievable. thank you. the cuban people. we know what we have to do. and we will do it. do not worry about it. the numbers have been incredible. in fact, they gave me prior to the election, the bay of pigs award. let me tell you, that was a great honor for me. so i want to thank the people, the cuban people. to be a strong nation, we must also be a rich nation. a wealthy nation. and we will be. whether it is exploring curing
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-- exploring space or curing disease, we want the next generation of innovation and production to happen right here in america and right here in our great state of florida, right? and you know, speaking of florida. i don't know if you want to hear this. should i discuss one day, a day in the life, should we do that? i always say, should we do it? everyone's wants to do it. you probably heard it before but we will make it florida oriented, because this was a big win. we won easily and we won by a tremendous number of votes and if you watch television and these dishonest people back here -- [boos] mr. trump: man, is that a lot. [chanting]
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mr. trump: well, first of all, maybe before we start. i am looking back there and you that is a lot of people. i tell you, that is a lot of people back there. let's see if we can get the cameras to turn around and capture the size of this audience. they won't do it. let's give it a shot. that is a big crowd. you know what was we should have done, we should have had thousands of people behind the camera, we should have the cameras back and the people forward. we are wasting our time with
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these people. we should have had the cameras back. do that next time. move the cameras back. you know, the equipment is so great nowadays, they can microscope and we can get it nice -- they could be in the back and it would not make a difference for television. [chanting] mr. trump: they are screaming, move them back. can you believe it? >> move them back, move them back. mr. trump: here is the bottom line, they are very dishonest. they have written dishonestly about all of us. it is a movement like they have never seen. and yes, we won. we won, right? [applause]
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mr. trump: you see the other side is complaining. they are all complaining. before the election, when they thought they were going to win. i tell you, that final week was magic. every place we went, we had crowds like this. and we have 22,000 people here tonight and thousands outside that cannot get in. that is pretty good and you cannot get inside to the field. i spoke to the fire marshal and i said, can't you let more people in? i said, why? they said it is stampedes. seriously, that is how many people we have. they are worried about a stampede. at least we know it will be a friendly stampede, right? i really appreciate you being here. this is incredible. this is really, i had this idea, we won very easily. remember they said, he cannot get to 270.
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there is no path to 270. i went to maine four times, because i wanted to get one vote. i needed it because i believe these people. so what happened? we went out and we watched the media and we believed the media and the media is very dishonest. they were even dishonest in the exit polls. what is the purpose of being dishonest and exit poll, when he will find out the truth? what were they doing. other than tormenting us, because we got for 2-3 hours we were going to lose. it started three months before the election, when we heard the great state of texas, which i
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thought we were doing great in, and georgia, what a great state. you heard it, georgia is in play. that means, you know, i could lose it. you lose georgia as a republican and you are in big trouble. he is even. i thought i was way up. texas is in play. i said, this is not good. and then we had the exit polls, and my daughter and son-in-law called and they said, it is not looking good. and i really thought, i was already preparing in my mind -- well, that is the way it is. but they were faulty polls. they said ivanka -- has anybody heard of her? she said, dad, i'm telling you, do not worry about it. it is ok.
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i said, i cannot believe it. i have seen the crowds, it is not make sense. bottom line, the polls close and they go, donald trump has won the great state of texas. in like, two minutes. donald trump, breaking news, donald trump has won georgia. donald trump has won utah. they were saying for two months that we were even. in fact in utah, there was a character that nobody ever saw before. nobody ever heard of him before. and i said to my wife, that is his name, do you believe this? or something like that. i never heard of this guy. nobody did. and the polls said, he is even with donald trump. my wife said, he is not even with you. believe me. he is not even.
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anyway, so we win. is melania great? she is. she is a great person. she loves you and she is enjoying herself. it is much better to win than to lose. so utah is announced very early. breaking news, donald trump has won utah. we did not just when it. and evan, this person, remember he said, we think we can win the election. but you will only win maybe utah. and maybe -- it did not turn out that way because we had plenty of everything. but all -- [laughter] mr. trump: i do not know if he is a lightweight. we should not say that. do not ever called a person like that a lightweight. what a group. only in florida could this
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happen. but, we won utah by law. a real lot. and it was -- and evan did not even come in second. hillary came in second. i really believe it was dishonest polling. who knows. who thinks it was dishonest by the media? so we open up with that. all of a sudden, ohio, where they had us down for two months, as even. we win it by almost 10 points. so, we were supposed to win by one point or maybe two point, and i had a hostile environment.
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the governor that was not like a great, rich guy. [boos] mr. trump: i said, how do you win a state when you do not have the support of a governor. i think i did better that way. so they go out and they say, breaking news, donald trump won ohio and with a very big number. and breaking news, donald trump won iowa by more than 10 points. that is unheard of. then we come down to this beautiful piece of land, surrounded by the ocean. surrounded. surrounded by beautiful seas. it is a place called florida, have you ever heard of it? has everybody heard of florida? i love florida. so, all night long it is even. it is going even. and then they get to the panhandle. i do not know who lives in the panhandle. did i blow them out of the panhandle or what?
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you know why? because the panhandle wants its jobs back. the panhandle was unbelievable and we won florida big. big. so they go, and you know you have the other side, they were being interviewed, saying we will win florida. we expect to win it easily. breaking news, donald trump wins the state of florida. right? [applause] mr. trump: and then we went south carolina. and then we have north carolina. north carolina was supposed to be close. very hard for republicans to win. many reasons for that. but we worked hard.
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my children were there, everybody was there and working hard. then it comes out. the tar heels. it comes out very strongly that donald trump is looking good in north carolina. and then my opponent, i will not mention names, but my opponent, they spent a fortune. they spent a fortune in north carolina and their people got on television -- [chanting] up." her mr. trump: oh, that is so terrible. you know, this is what is happening. i noticed, because i did ohio, iowa, north carolina, we did all over. last night, hershey, pennsylvania. did you see that crowd? it is like, thank you florida. thank you, pennsylvania. we are doing a thank you tour. we have more imagination than anybody. we are doing this. we are not politics. i tell you what i noticed.
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we go to ohio where we go to iowa and the crowds are incredible. thank you. thank you. thank you. [chanting] mr. trump: thank you. amazing people. here is what i noticed. four weeks ago, prior to the -- always prior to, you vicious people were screaming, we want the wall. screaming, prison. lock her up. you are going crazy. i mean, you are nasty, mean and vicious and he wanted to win, right? now, same crowd, that is right, whatever happened to the deplorables?
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they are not so deplorable. they are not so deplorable anymore. the other side is figuring out how to get some of those deplorables to our side. now, now, it is much different. now you are laid-back, you are mellow, right? you are basking in the glory of victory. and we are already getting to the mark. we are saving a lot of jobs in many places. we have a lot of things going on. we sort of have to wait until we get into office, don't you agree? i am having a hard time waiting.
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you cannot move. but, but now you are mellow. you are cool. and you are not nearly as vicious or violence, right? because we won, right? now you are sort of laying back, although this does not sound like a totally laid-back crowd, but that is ok. so, the other side goes out and they say, donald trump cannot win north carolina. that is our firewall. remember, this is our firewall. ladies and again on, breaking news, donald trump has won the state of north carolina. [applause] mr. trump: then you look at pennsylvania. pennsylvania was always the state, they say the bride that got away. every republican for 38 years, they left. before the election, everybody thought, everybody thought he -- she was going to win pennsylvania. it did not work out that way. and we were campaigning in pennsylvania, getting the biggest crowds they have ever seen, by far. and i said, we're going to win this state. and i remember, they said over
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and over, republicans do not win it. and they would not denounce these crooked people back here. they would not. first of all, first of all, they were in a state of panic. now we win florida. and we won ohio by summit then -- by so much more than we were anticipated to win. and then we won iowa and in florida so much bigger than they thought. and by the way, by the way, just to go back a few months, how good did we do in florida in the primary, right? how good was that? oh, that was good. i do not want to talk about that anymore. so, now they are getting nervous on television.
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and you see the anchors and they are sweating and crying and throwing up all over the place. and you know, a couple of them -- john king, he is very good, now he is getting a little -- they are saying, there is no path to 270. now what happens? we are leading pennsylvania. 306 is right. we are leading pennsylvania by a lot and we have 1% and in the 99%. we are there for hours. i considered it a win because the 1% was not nearly enough votes. what happened? instead of announcing it at 11:00, they waited until 3:00 in the morning. i think they did it for commercials, if you want to know the truth. but a couple of things happened
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that were surprising. we have breaking news, ladies and gentlemen, donald trump -- now they will say something, they are ready to throw up all over, donald trump -- this came out and these people are incredible. donald trump has won the state of wisconsin. wait a second, where did that come from? where did that come from? right after, ladies and gentlemen, donald trump has won the state of michigan. michigan? it has not been won in 38 years. and now, the gentleman with the map, looking so red. remember the map? there was a lot of blue and he
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-- it got knocked to hell. i will tell you that. it was pouring red. they said, you cannot break the blue wall. but my candidate, right? -- up by canada, right? we heard this for months. to believe guys like walter cronkite. this is a different world. so we are listening to these people, dishonest as hell, and what happened is they are telling all of us, you cannot break the blue wall. what happens is, not only did we break it, we shattered the hell out of it. right? now we win wisconsin. and now what happens? we win wisconsin, we win michigan. i knew we were going to win michigan, because i was talking about cars going out of michigan
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and into mexico. i had been talking about it. i got the man of the year award in michigan. and i said, you can let your factories go. you cannot do this. and they remembered, they remembered all of this. in michigan. so now what happens, he is up with the red. and his hands start to shake. he cannot breathe. he is choking like a dog. for months he said, i had no path to victory. many people probably believed in. and they do not go out to vote. it is called depressing the vote. you love donald trump, but he said, he cannot win. i believe these people.
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they say he has no path to victory. mandated we have a path to -- man, did we have a path to victory. so he puts down red for wisconsin, red for michigan. now i do not even need the rest of the state. in fact, they took all the glory away from pennsylvania. they should have called it hours earlier. and he goes, ladies and gentlemen, and he is going - huh? there is no path to victory for hillary clinton. [cheers] mr. trump: there is no path. [cheers] mr. trump: there is no path. incredible.
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and then he said, donald trump is the next president of the united states. it is huge. it is huge. it was an amazing evening. [chanting "trump"] mr. trump: thank you. and congratulations to you. they never gave pennsylvania that glamour of victory. they should have. those people were so incredible. i was with them last night, i said, they took it away from you. but then pennsylvania came in and others came in. we ended up with 306. it could have been more than that. it was an amazing evening. they say the most historic ever. but you know what is more
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important now, that we altogether do a great job. that is what is next, ok? we are going to do a great job. for years, the jobs and wealth have been ripped out of our country. foreign powers have gotten rich bleeding america dry. but that is all about to end and it is going to end rapidly. the american worker is finally going to have a chance. -- finally going to have a champion in the white house. a champion for you. our economic agenda can be summed up in three beautiful words, jobs, jobs, jobs. that is why we are going to lower our business tax rate from 35% down to 15% and you watch what happens. we are going to bring it from
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the highest in the world, to one of the lower rates in the world. maybe someday we will get it to the lowest. you watch what is going to happen. it is also why we are going to eliminate job killing regulations. a disaster. and we're going to lift restrictions on the production of american energy, including of american energy, including shale, oil, natural gas and clean coal. another critical element of our jobs plan is a $1 trillion investment in our very bad and crumbling infrastructure. it is time. our bridges are deficient, our roads are in disrepair, our airports are like third world
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countries, our schools are a disaster. we had no choice. it is time. i am asking congress to support the construction of new roads, bridges, tunnels and roadways across this nation and we will put people back to work in the process. believe me, it will be our people. it is time to help get america off of welfare and back into the labor market, rebuilding this country with american hands by american workers. my administration will follow two simple rules, buy america and hire american. at the center of the agenda is fixing our absolutely terrible trade deals. they are so bad. i have studied them. i like reading trade deals.
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can you believe this? you do not want to read them. they are so bad. i can tell you, how bad are they? really bad. and we will make them really good. and we have the great people to do it. the media has been saying, the people who are negotiating the trade deals are very rich, but isn't that what we want? they said, why is it that the people protecting our borders are generals? that is what we want, we want generals. i do not need an mba at the border and i do not need a general negotiating a trade deal. now we have general kelly. you know general kelly, he will be watching over our borders. he is amazing. and as you know, we had general mad dog mattis, secretary of defense. we are not playing games. we are not playing games. no more games. do we agree? we have been playing games for
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20 years, no more games. that is right. that is right. pretty good. [chanting] mr. trump: we are going to have strong borders and will make great trade deals. you will be proud of your country again. you watch. america is now running an $800 billion trade deficit. think of it. $800 billion. our country has lost one third of its manufacturing jobs since nafta. we have lost thousands of factories since china joined the world trade organization. 70,000 factories we have lost, can you believe it?
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it is hard to believe. i thought it was a typo. it is the greatest jobs theft in the history of the world. we are going to turn it around fast, faster than you think. we are not going to be taken advantage of by other countries anymore. right? [applause] mr. trump: our goal is to bring back that wonderful phrase, remember some of you that are a little bit older, made in the usa? remember that? we used to have on the cards, made in the usa. we're going to start putting, made in the usa, right? what do you like better? made in the usa or made in america? hold it.
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[chanting "usa"] >> usa, usa. mr. trump: ready, who like made in america? who likes made in the usa? [cheers] mr. trump: i think so. wait, one more, this is like doing a vote. a lot of people would spend $1 million for that. these are the people that led our country. they would do a poll that would cost $1 million. here is another one. time magazine and the financial times, big deal, just gave the person of the year. person of the year. ok. they should give it to you, this
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is not me. although, we do have a good messenger. do we agree? are you ready? in the past it was called man of the year. now it is called person of the year. here is a question, what do you like better -- do you like person of the year? [boos] do you like man of the year? [cheers] mr. trump: that is the women, too. well, they want to be politically correct. i have heard for so many years, man of the year. they have to be politically correct.
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but i have an idea. what do you do if it is a woman -- right? if it is a man, you go man of the year. if it is a woman, like this incredible woman down here, maybe you go woman of the year or person of the year, right? should we speak to the people at time magazine and said next year -- say next year, maybe we want, man of the year next year. no, it is a great honor. we have to justify it. we will withdraw from the transpacific partnership. they are going to renegotiate the worst trade deal ever made anywhere in the world, nafta. we are going to stand up to foreign cheating and i correct -- and fight for every last american job. if a company wants to fire workers and leave florida for another country and then shop --
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ship their products back, there president-elect trump: it is not going to happen anymore. fire workers, they close their plans, they moved to mexico or someplace else and they sell the product back in with no taxes, so we end up with unemployment and losses. they end up with everything. it is a one-way street. it is not going to happen anymore. from now on, we will warn them that they will pay a 35% tax if they want to leave, or something substantial. you know what will happen, they will not leave. it is simple. why didn't the politicians do this 15-20 years ago? why didn't they do it? for two reasons. two reasons. you know what the two reasons are? either they are stupid, or they get paid off by campaign
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contributions. that's all. very simple. but to be a rich nation, we must also be a safe nation. the murder rate has experienced its largest increase in the united states in 45 years. the press does not tell you that. the murder rate in orlando doubled last year. we are going to support the incredible men and women of law enforcement. and we are going to bring this terrible crime wave to a rapid end. [chanting] mr. trump: one of the greatest public safety issues is open borders.
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this is horrible what is going on with the borders, and the drugs pouring into our country and poisoning our youth and other people. poisoning our youth. pouring in like water pours in. i have a message for this drug dealers, big gang members, and the criminal cartels terrorizing our cities, our locations, our citizens -- your days are numbered. we are getting you out. and we are getting you out fast. [cheering] we willt-elect trump: build a great wall and we will stop the illegal immigration once and for all. >> build that wall, build that wall. president-elect trump: we're going to build the wall.
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the border patrol agents, the ice agents endorsed me. we are going to build a wall. it is going to be a great wall , and it is going to have big, beautiful doors and it because , we will have people coming into the country, but they will come into our country legally. we were also work to keep our country safe from terrorism. the attack on pulse nightclub in orlando was the worst mass shooting in american history. assault on thest lgbtq community in history. we have seen islamic terror attacks from paris, to belgium, to san bernardino. one after another, again and again. we are going to stop it. so let me state this as clearly as i can, i am going to keep
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radical islamic terrorists the hell out of our country. [cheering] president-elect trump: that includes suspending immigration from regions where it cannot be safely processed or vetted. and that is a term i have devised, extreme vetting. nothing will come before the safety and security of the american people. ethics reform will be a crucial part of the plan. we are going to drain the swamp of corruption in washington dc and stop government officials from trading favors at your expense. we face many challenges, but this is truly an exciting time to be alive. the script is not yet written. we do not know what the page will read tomorrow.
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for the first time in a long time, what we do know is that the pages will be authored by each and every one of you. [cheering] you, the-elect trump: incredible american people, will be in charge. your voice, your desires, your aspirations will never again fall on deaf ears. the forgotten men and women, by the way, they are not forgotten anymore, are they? they do not know what hit them. oh, those forgotten people, they are not forgotten. they are not forgotten. they are still writing stories about it. they are saying, what happened? they came out to vote bigly, didn't they? these are smart people, hard-working people, these are people that sometimes have not voted in a long time.
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but you know what, they saw, day heard, they wanted what we were all doing, and we were doing it together. they came out and these people had no clue what the hell happened. so i just want to tell you thank you, and you are going to be very happy with the results. thank you. [chanting] you aret-elect trump: going to be very happy. together, we will raise incomes and bring jobs, wealth, and opportunity to our poorest communities. we will repeal the disaster known as obamacare and create new health care, all sorts of reforms that work for you and your families, and we are going to be doing it properly. and we will not spend $5 million
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for a website, ok? remember. and we will not spend $4.2 billion for an airplane so i can fly around, all right? $4.2 billion for air force 1, i don't think so. we will reestablish the rule of law, defend the second amendment, protect religious liberties, and appoint justices to the united states supreme court who will uphold and defend the constitution of the united states. we will heal our divisions and unify our country, our country is very divided. we will bring the country back together. we will love everyone, everyone, not small groups or big groups, we will love everyone in our country. when americans are unified, there is nothing we cannot do, no task is too great, no dream
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too large, no goal beyond our reach. my message tonight is for all americans, from all parties, all beliefs, all races, all walks of life, whether you are african-american, hispanic american, asian-american, whatever the hell you might be, ok? [applause] [applause] we arent-elect trump: all americans and we are all united by one shared destiny. so i am asking everybody to join this incredible movement. i am asking you to dream big, dream bold, big and bold and , i love that, andriy and big and bold and daring, for your families and your country. big and bold and daring. i am asking you to believe in yourself, and i'm asking you to believe once again in america.
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and if we do that, then altogether we will make america strong again. we will make america wealthy again. we will make america safe again. and we will make america great again. thank you very much, florida. thank you, florida. god bless you. merry christmas. god bless you. thank you. incredible support. ♪ [you can't always get what you want playing] >> ♪ you can't always get what you want you can't always get what you want you can't always get what you want but if you try sometimes you might find
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for higher education discusses results from a recent study that shows a decade-long stagnation in the number of high school graduates, and predicts even fewer students will graduate in 2017. watch c-span's washington journal, join the discussion. >> saturday, ohio state university is the site for a public celebration of the life of john glenn. at the age ofer 8 that will be at 2:00 p.m. 95. eastern.eastern. live at 4:00 p.m., president-elect trump speaks at a rally in mobile, alabama. watch both events here on c-span. >> hawaiian representative colleen hanabusa
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spoke to c-span about her return to congress. she vacated the seat to run for the u.s. senate, and was elected back to her old seat in november. she immediately assumed office of a vacancy caused by the death of mark takai. congressman tokai unfortunately passed from pancreatic cancer. it is one of the saddest things i have had to contend with, but before he decided to withdraw his name from the election
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process, he called and asked me it i would run for my seat again , so that is what brings me back, the people of the congressional district overwhelmingly voted for me and that it is a nice feeling to be and it is a nice feeling to be supported, but extremely bittersweet. >> why is it you said yes to the late congressman? rep. hanabusa: he did not want as his legacy to be a situation democrats, soboth we may have lost the seat, and more importantly than that, he wanted somebody to continue in congress who had a sense of what it was like to be here so the district would not lose anything , miss a beach so to speak, and what the reason was, honoring his wish. >> what about his legacy will you pick up and carry on, and what about your previous work here that you want to pick up again and try to fight for your
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in washington? rep. hanabusa: mark really wanted to continue in the armed services area. , and thert of the card armed services committee was something i served on for four years, and for myself, one of the issues i was passionate about before i left the congress was what did it mean when president obama said we are visiting to asia-pacific. asia-pacific is critical. we are the most forward of the states, but more importantly than that, what they called the pacific command area of responsibility is 55% of the earth's surface, and i told everyone don't forget what is right smack in the middle of the pacific, it is hawaii. all of the military services are in district one in some form or another, so it was very important, and i believe we shared that, but for me and
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particular, it was something i look forward to. president obama said the 21st century would be defined by and then secretary of state hillary clinton said let's not forget that hawaii is the gateway to asia-pacific, so that has been something that has driven me, and it is not only for what we called the 10 of it, which people think is a military pivot, but it is not that. it is one of the greatest peace movements that we have, and in addition to that, diplomacy and a military presence in the area. since since you left the house, what have you been doing? rep. hanabusa: i was teaching at the university of hawaii law school as well as the university of hawaii's political science department, and in addition, i on variouso sit
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boards. on various boards. so it was only a matter of 18 months, but during that time, it was a wonderful experience to reunite with people, and there are so many different types of issues that hawaii was faced with. all of it related to our native group, indigenous people, the native hawaiians, so i was able to keep abreast of a lot of the issues just because it wasn't long enough to be a way to do best the major issues -- to divest the major issues facing our community. >> anything you would do differently from your previous years in the house? rep. hanabusa: i feel that having been here four years before is that you can hit the ground running, and you are also able to look at things and know what to do. i jokingly tell people i don't know ho have to know where the bathrooms are, i know where they are. it is also having the relationship. i tell people that no matter
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what anybody says, congress is no different than any other local government or local is alature, what it is matter of relationships, so we may have partisan labels on us, but the bottom line it is the relationship and trust you build, and i am so fortunate i built i lot of them and they are ,ll here, so because of that it's not can we get along. you know who you can rely on, and that is the greatest difference and how i can better serve the constituency. >> do have a -- here in washington? rep. hanabusa: i did. senatorr was in daniel kane who passed in 2012. since then, senator acosta who retired in 2012, he is somebody i see all the time in hawaii, but senator neu has probably taught me the best lessons and what it means to be bipartisan. year, the joint,
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sort of like an appointment at the daniel k know hesince then,o institut neu visiting scholar. my topic was civil liberties in that time of national crisis, and that is also something i feel passionate about, especially given the fact we are coming up on the 75th anniversary of the attack on pearl harbor, and the result of that which this series brought out with the internment of japanese-americans, so having watched what he went through or went through an understanding that he always felt the most important thing was never forget who you represent, and never forget the power structures swings back and forth, so you need to have those relationships, because without those relationships, it is your constituency that really suffers, so that is what i walk who from, a very great man
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knew very well that to be bipartisan and understand the needs of all the various states, never losing your concentration on your own state, was what this was really all about. to our c-spann washers, congresswoman, thank you very much for your time. rep. hanabusa: thank you for having me. aloha. this weekend, c-span cities tour will explore the literary life and history of scottsdale, arizona. westernd the west most town. on book tv on c-span2, here about life on route 66, known as america's mother road, route 66 was one of the original u.s. highways between illinois and southern california. in his book, the 66 kid raised on the mother road, the author
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recalls his life in kingman, arizona, which is located on route 66, and the many things he observed are hoping his father run a gas station. a callears ago i got from a writer and he said i read about your article on your father's gas station and i would like to interview you. i said sure. his first question, the very first thing he asked me is, what was it like growing up in such a historic place. -- whichsit specializes in civil war history and america,. >> my mother love the civil war but was also enamored with the women in the west so i'm sure they came up with guidon books. >> been on c-span3, here about the founding of scottsdale from marshall trimble. mr. turnbull shares the story of winfield scott, a civil war hero
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who saw potential in the arizona salt river valley. tohe had just graduated seminary school when the civil war broke out, and lincoln called for volunteers, and he wanted to get into it, so he went back to his hometown in new york and he started recruiting and raising his own company of soldiers, and i think he recruited about 33 of his own cousins, and his bible study class, and even recruited the town band. home will visit the winter of architect frank lloyd wright. >> a real example of how to live in the desert southwest. it was a building that flank lloyd wright used as a laboratory. working to create a new kind of architecture for america. workingcities tour,
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with our cable affiliates and visiting cities across the country. now, president obama reviews his administration's achievements. he also talks about syria, russian hacking, and the integrity of the u.s. election process. this is about 90 minutes. pres. obama: alright, everybody.
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good afternoon. this is the most wonderful press conference of the year. i have a list of who has been naughty and nice to call on. let me first make a couple of points and then i will take questions. typically i use this year in press conference to review how far we've come over the year. today, understandably i am going to talk a little bit about how far we have come over the past 8 years. as i was preparing to take office, the unemployment rate was on its way to 10%. today it is at 4.6%, the lowest in nearly a decade. we have seen the longest streak of job growth on record and wages have grown faster over the past few years than at any time in the past 40. when i came into office 44 , million people were uninsured, and today we have covered more than 20 million of them. for the first time in our history, more than 90% of americans are insured. in fact, yesterday was the biggest day ever for, more than six
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670,000 americans signed up to get coverage and more are signing up by the day. we have cut our dependence on foreign oil by more than half, enacted the most sweeping reforms since fdr to protect consumers and prevent a crisis on wall street ever again. none of this has a stifled growth. the stock market has tripled. and i thought obamacare into law in business and have added 15 million new jobs. the economy is more durable than the day when we relied on oil from unstable nations and banks took risky bets with your money. add it all up and the poverty rate fell at the fastest rate in almost 50 years, while the median household grew at the fastest rate on record. in fact, income gains were larger for the household at the bottom and middle than for those at the top. and we did this while cutting the deficit by nearly two thirds
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and protecting vital investments to grow the middle class. in foreign policy, when i came into office, we were in the midst of two wars, now nearly 180,000 troops are down to 15,000. bin laden, rather than being at large, has been taken off of the battlefield along with thousands of other terrorists. over the past eight years, no no foreign terrorists organization has successfully executed an our homeland that was directed from overseas. through diplomacy, we have insurance that iran cannot obtain a nuclear weapon without going to war with iran. and when opened up a new chapter with the people of cuba and we have brought 200 nations together around a climate agreement that could very well save this planet for our kids.
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and almost every country on earth sees america as stronger and more respected today than they did eight years ago. in other words, by so many measures our country is stronger and more prosperous than it was when we started. it is a situation that i am proud to leave for my successor. and it is thanks to the american people, the hard work you have put in, and the sacrifices you made for your families and communities the businesses you , started or invested in, and the way that he looked out for one another. and i could not be prouder to be your president. of course, this does not mean we are not mindful of how much there is to do. in this season in particular, we are reminded that there are people who are still hungry, people who are still homeless, people who still have trouble paying the bills or finding work after being laid off. their communities are still
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mourning those who have been stolen from us by senseless gun violence, and parents who are still wondering how to protect their kids. after i leave office i intend to continue work with organizations and citizens across the country on these and other pressing issues to build on the progress we have made. around the world as well, there are hotspots where there where disputes have been intractable, conflicts that have flared up, and innocent people are suffering as a result. and nowhere is this more terribly true than the city of aleppo. for years, we have worked to stop the civil war in syria and it alleviate human suffering. it has been one of the hardest issues i have faith as president. the world as we speak is united horror at the savage assaults on the city of aleppo. we have seen deliberate strategy
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of surrounding and a starving innocent civilians. we have seen relentless targeting of humanitarian workers and medical personnel, entire neighborhoods reduced to rubble and dust. there are continuing reports of civilians being executed. these are all violations of international law. responsibility for this the assadlies with regime and its allies, russia and iran, and blood is on their hands. we all know what needs to happen, there needs to be an impartial international force in aleppo that can help coordinate and orderly evacuation through safe corridor doors. there has to be full access for humanitarian aid, even as america continues to be the largest donor to the syrian people. and there needs to be a proper
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cease-fire that will serve as a basis for a political, rather than military solution. that is what the united states will continue to push for, with partners and regretfully, but unsurprisingly, russia has repeatedly blocked the security council from taking action on these issues, so we will keep pressing the security council to improve the delivery of aid to those who are in such desperate need and ensure accountability, including continuing to monitor any potential use of chemical weapons in syria. and we are to work in the u.n. general assembly as well, both on accountability and to advance a political settlement, because it should be clear that although you may achieve a tactical victory over the long term, the assad regime cannot slaughter its way to legitimacy. that is why we will continue to press to a transition for more representative government, and that is why the world must like
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-- not ever our eyes to the terrible events that are unfolding. the syrian regime and its russian and iranian allies are trying to obfuscate the truth. the world should not be fooled, and the world will not forget. so, even in a season where the incredible blessings that we know as americans are all around us, even as we enjoy family and friends and are reminded of how lucky we are, we should also be reminded that to be an american involves bearing burdens and meeting obligations to others. american values and american ideals are what will lead the way to a safer and more prosperous 2017, both here and abroad. and the way, if you embody those
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ideals like our brave men and women and their families. i want to close by wishing all of them a very merry christmas and a happy new year. with that, i will take some questions, and i will start with josh letterman of ap. reporter: thank you, mr. president. there is a perception that you are letting president putin to are letting president putin to get away with interference with the u.s. election. are you prepared to call out president putin by name, and do you agree with what we are -- hillary clinton now says, that the hacking was partially responsible for clinton's loss? -- the smooth transition of power that you promised. president obama: first of all, with respect to the transition, i think they would be the first
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to acknowledge that we have done everything we can to make sure that they are successful, as i promised, and that will continue. and it has just been a few days since i last talked to the president-elect about a whole range of transition issues. that cooperation is going to continue. there has not been a lot of squabbling. what we have simply said is the facts, which are that based on uniform intelligence assessments, the russians were responsible for hacking the dnc and that, as a consequence, it is important for us to review all elements of that and make sure that we are preventing that kind of interference through cyber-attacks in the future. that should be a bipartisan issue. not a partisan issue. and my hope is that the
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president-elect is going to similarly be concerned with making sure that we don't have potential foreign influence in our election process. i don't think that in -- any american wants that. and that should not be a source of an argument. i think that part of the challenge is that it gets caught up in the carryover from election season, and i think it is very important for us to distinguish between the politics of the election and the need for us, as a country, both from a national security perspective, but also in terms of the integrity of our election system and our democracy, to make sure that we do not create a political football here. now, with respect to how this thing unfolded last year, let's
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go through the facts quickly. at the beginning of the summer, we were alerted to the possibility that the dnc has been hacked, and i immediately order law enforcement as well as our intelligence teams to find out everything about it, investigate it thoroughly, to brief the potential victims of this hacking, to brief on a bipartisan basis the leaders of both the house and the senate and the relevant intelligence committees, and once we had clarity and certainty around what, in fact, had happened, we publicly announced that in fact russia had hacked into the dnc. and at that time, we did not
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attribute motives or any interpretations of why they had done so. we didn't discuss what the effects of it might be. we simply let people know, the public know, just as we had let members of congress know, that this had happened. and as a consequence, all of you wrote a lot of stories about both what had happened and then you interpreted why that might have happened and what effect it was going to have on the election outcomes. we did not. and the reason we did not was because in this hyper-partisan atmosphere, at a time when my primary concern was making sure that the integrity of the election process was not in any way damaged, at a time when anything that was said by me or
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anybody in the white house would immediately be seen through a partisan lens, i wanted to make sure everybody understood we were playing this thing straight. that we were not trying to advantage one side or the other, but let people know that this had taken place and so if you started seeing effects on the election, if you were trying to measure why this was happening and how you should consume the information that was being leaked, that you might want to take this into account. and that is exactly how we should have handled it. imagine if we had done the opposite. it would have become immediately just one more political scrum, and part of the goal here was to make sure that we did not do the work of the leakers for them i raising more and more questions about the integrity of elections right before the election was taking place, at a time, by the way, when the president-elect
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was raising questions about the integrity of the election and, finally, i think it is worth pointing out that the information that was already out. it was in the hands of wikileaks. that was going to come out no matter what. what i was concerned about in particular was making sure that that wasn't compounded by potential hacking that could hamper vote counting, affecting the election process itself, and in early september when i saw president putin in china, i felt that the most effective way to ensure that that didn't happen was to talk to him directly and tell him to cut it out, there were going to be some serious consequences if he did not. and in fact, we did not see further tampering of the election process. but the leaks through wikileaks had already occurred.
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so when i look back in terms of how we handled it, i think we handled it the way it should have been handled. we allowed law enforcement and the intelligence community to do its job without political influence. we briefed all parties involved in terms of what was taking place. when we had a consensus around what had happened, we announced it, not through the white house, not through me, through the intelligence communities that had actually carried out these investigation, and then we allowed you and the american public to make assessments as to how to weigh that going into the election. the truth is there was nobody here who didn't have some sense of what kind of effect it might have. i am finding it a little curious
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that everyone is suddenly acting surprised that this looked like it was disadvantaging hillary clinton, because you guys wrote about it every day, every single leak, about every little juicy tidbit of political gossip, including john podesta's email. -- lesotho -- email. this was an accession that -- obsessing -- obsession that dominated the news coverage. so i do think it is worth reflecting how it is that a presidential election of such importance, of such moment, with so many big issues at stake in such a contrast between the candidates came to be dominated by a bunch of these leaks. what is it about our political system that made us vulnerable to these kinds of potential manipulations, which as i said,
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were not particularly sophisticated? this was not some elaborate, complicated espionage scheme. they hacked into some democratic party emails that contained pretty routine stuff, some of it embarrassing or uncomfortable because i suspect that if any of us got our emails hacked into it -- there might be some things that we would not want appearing on the front page of a newspaper, a telecast, even though there was not anything particularly illegal or controversial about it, and then it just took off. and that concerns me, and it should concern all of us. but the truth of the matter is, is that everybody had the information.
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it was out there, and we handled it the way we should have. now, moving forward, i think there are a couple issues that this raises. number one is just the constant challenge that we are going to have with cyber-security throughout our economy and throughout our society. we are a digitalized culture. and there is hacking going on every single day. there is not a company, there is not a major organization, there is not a financial institution, there is not a branch of our government where somebody is not going to be fishing for something or trying to penetrate or put out a virus or malware, and this is why for the last eight years i have been assessed , how do we continually upgrade -- obsessed with how do we continually upgrade our cyber security systems. and this particular concern around russian hacking is part of a broader set of concerns about how do we deal with cyber
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issues being used in ways that can affect our infrastructure, affect the stability of our financial systems, and affect the integrity of our institutions like our election process. i just received a couple weeks back, it was not widely reported on, a report from our cyber security commission that outlines a whole range of strategies to do a better job on this. but it is difficult, because it is not all house -- the target of cyber attacks is not one entity, but widely dispersed and a lot of it is private, like the dnc. it is not a branch of government. we can't tell people what to do, but we can inform them on best practices.
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do, and -- on a bilateral basis, warned other countries against these kinds of attacks. and we have done that in the past. so, just as i have told russia and indicated there will be consequences when they do it, the chinese have in the tax engaged in cyber directed at our companies to steal trade secrets and proprietary technology. i had to have the same conversation with president she -- the president. what we have seen is, some evidence that they were reduced, but not completely eliminated. of the use cutouts, one problems with the internet and cyber issues is there is not always a return address and by ,he time you catch up with it
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attributing what happened to a particular government can be difficult. not always provable in court, even though our intelligence communities can make an assessment. what we have also tried to do is start creating some in order tol norms prevent a cyber arms race. we have offense of capabilities as well as defensive capabilities. my approach is not a situation in which everyone is worse off because folks are constantly attacking each other back and forth, but putting guardrails of nationavior states, including our adversaries just so they understand that whatever they do to us, we can potentially due to them. we do have special talent -- challenges because oftentimes, our country is more vulnerable
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particularly because we are a wealthier nation and more wired than some of these crushed -- countries. and we have an open society. controln age of less and censorship over what happens on the internet, which is part of what makes us special. last point. and the reason i am going on is because i know you guys have a lot of questions about and i have addressed all of you directly about it. with respect to response, my principal goal leading up to the thation was making sure the election its self went off was not ahitch, target and that it did not feed thatense in the public somehow tampering had taken place with the actual process of voting. and we accomplished that.
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mean that we are not going to respond. it simply meant that we had priorities leading up to the election that were of the utmost importance. our goal continues to be to send a clear message to russia or others not to do this to us because we can do stuff to you. but it is also important for us to do that in a thoughtful, methodical way. some of it we do publicly. some of it we will do in a way that they know, but not everybody will. i know there have been folks out there who suggest that somehow we went out there and made big announcements and thumped our chests about a bunch of stuff, that somehow that would spook the russians. but keep in mind that we already have in norm us sanctions
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against the russians. hasrelationship between us deteriorated sadly, significantly over the past several years. and how we approach an appropriate were -- response that increases cost for them for behavior like this in the future, but does not create problems for us is something that is worth taking the time to think through and figure out. that is exactly what we have done. so at a point in time where we have taken certain actions that we can divulge publicly, we will do so. there are times when the message will go -- be directly received and notussians publicized. i should point out, by the way, part of why the russians have been affected by this is they don't -- effective is they don't go around announcing what they are doing. putting's going
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around the world -- vladimir putin is going around the world saying look at what we did. wasn't this clever? he denies it. the idea that somehow public shaming is going to be effective doesn't read the thought process in russia very well. ok? have -- let the pundits have a political discussion on what happened the selection. there will be a lot of books written on it. what is important for the democratic party going forward, rather than try to parse every , and iof the election said before, i couldn't be prouder of secretary clinton,
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her outstanding service. she has worked tirelessly on behalf of the american people and wasn't treated fairly during the election. i think the coverage of her and but,ssues was troubling having said that, what i have been most focused on, appropriate for the fact that i am not going to be a politician in about 32 days. 31? 34? [laughter] when i have said is i can give counsel to the democratic party and the thing we need to spend the most time on because it is the thing we have the most control over, is how we make sure we are showing up in places aree democratic policies needed, where they are helping, where they are making a
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difference, but where people feel as if they are not being heard? and where democrats are characterized as coastal liberal , politically , weect out of touch folks have to be in those communities. and i have seen that when we are in those communities, it makes a difference. that's how i became president. i became a u.s. senator, not i was in chicago, because i was driving up and down illinois and going to fish fries and sitting in halls and .alking to farmers i didn't win every one of their votes but i -- they heard what i was talking about that i was for working people, for the middle
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class, the reason i was interested in strengthening unions and increasing the minimum wage and rebuilding our infrastructure and making sure that parents had decent childcare and family leave was family's history wasn't that different from theirs, even if i looked a little bit different. same thing in iowa. and so the question is, how do we rebuild the party as a whole? county in anyt a red, -- i don't care how where we don't have a red, where we don't have a presence and are making the argument. because i think we have a better argument. but that requires a lot of work. it has been something i have been able to do successfully in my own campaigns. it is not something i have been to candidateser in midterms and build a
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sustaining organization around, would'veomething i liked to have done more of. but it is also hard to do when you are dealing with a bunch of issues here in the white house. and that doesn't mean it can't be done. i think there are going to be a lot of talented folks out there, a lot of progressives who share my values were going to be leading the charge in the years to come. michelle, cnn. reporter: we briefly heard hillary clinton talk about how the director's most recent announcement made a difference in the election. we also heard in an op ed, something being deeply broken within the fbi. talking about the investigation early on was lax at a sickle --
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do you think there is any truth to this comments? is there a danger there, but they are calling into question the integrity of institutions in a similar way that donald's teams have done? in the second part, donald giving them was indication that the investigation of the russian hack, as well as retaliation, might not be such a priority once he is in office. so what do you think the risk is there and are you going to talk to him directly about some of those comments he made? on the lattera: , the, as i said before transition from election season to governing season is not always smooth. it is bumpy. or are still feelings that are -- raw out there
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there. there are people who are thinking about how things unfolded and i get all of that. but when donald trump takes field of office and is sworn in as the 45th president of the united states, he has a different set of responsibilities and considerations. have said this before. i think there is a sobering process when you walk into the oval office. previously private conversations i have had with the president-elect. i will say they have been cases, havein some involved me making some specific suggestions about how to ensure that regardless of obvious ,isagreements about policy maybe i can transmit some thoughts about maintaining the
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effectiveness, integrity, cohesion of the office, our various democratic institutions, and he has listened. i can't say he will end up implementing, but the conversations themselves have been cordial, as opposed to defensive in any way. and i will always make myself available to him, just as previous presidents have made themselves available to me as issues come up. with respect to the fbi, i will tell you that i have had a chance to know a lot of young agents. i know director comey. they take the job seriously. they work really hard. they help keep us safe. and save a lot of lives.
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and it is always a challenge for law enforcement when there is an intersection between the work that they are doing and the political system. it is one of the difficulties of democracy, generally. we have a system where we want our law enforcement investigators and our prosecutors to be free from politics, to be independent, to play it straight. but sometimes that involves investigations that touch on politics and particularly in this hyper-partisan environment we have been in, everything is suspect. everything you do one way or another. done is tohat i have be pretty scrupulous about not investigation
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decisions or prosecution decisions or decisions not to .rosecute i have tried to be strict in my about preserving the independence of law free from my own judgments and political assessments in some cases. i don't know why would stop now. mike, of bloomberg. reporter: thank you, mr. president. aleppo, your views of what happened there, responsibilities of the russian government, the iranian government, the assad .egime do you as president of the united states, leader of the free world feel any personal
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moral responsibility now at the end of your presidency for the carnage we are all watching, which i'm sure disturbed you. aleppo, europe made clear with your -- your --ctical disagreements president-elect trump has said last night that he wants to create -- do you feel in this transition, you need to help them towards implementing that? was that not something you should be doing? mike, i always: feel responsible. responsible when kids were being shot by snipers. i felt responsible when millions of people had been displaced. murderresponsible for
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that has taken place in south sudan that is not being reported there isbly because not as much social media being generated from their -- there. there are places around the world where horrible things are happening and because of my , because i am president of the united states, i feel responsible. i ask myself every single day, is there something i could do that would save lives and make a difference? who doesn'tme child deserve to suffer. that is a starting point. thee is not a moment during course of this presidency were i haven't felt some responsibility. that is true, by the way, for our own country. when i came into office and
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people were losing their jobs and their homes and their pensions, i felt responsible. and i would go home at night and asked myself, was there something better that i could do or smarter that i could be that would make a difference in their life? that would relieve their suffering and relief their hardship. so with respect to syria, what i have consistently done is taken to best course that i can while end the civil war having also to take into account the long-term national security interests of the united states. -- drop this process throughout this process, based on hours of meetings. if you tallied it up, days or weeks of meetings where we went
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in painfulry option detail with maps and we had our military and we had our aid agencies and we had our diplomatic teams. sometimes we would bring in outsiders who were critics of hours -- ours. whenever we went through it, the challenge was, short of making -- putting large numbers of troops on the ground, uninvited, without any international law mandate, without sufficient , at a timem congress when we still have troops in afghanistan and still have troops in iraq and had just gone through a decade of war and spent trillions of dollars and
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when the opposition on the ground was not cohesive enough to necessarily govern a country and you had a military superpower in russia prepared to do whatever it took to keep its client-state involved and you had a regional military power in iran that saw their own vital strategic interests at stake and were willing to send in as many of their people or proxies to support the regime, and in that circumstance, unless we were all in and willing to take over syria, we were going to have problems and that everything , else was tempting because we wanted to do something and it sounded like the right thing to do, but it was going to be impossible to do this on the cheap. and in that circumstance, i have
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to make decision as president of the united states as to what is best -- i'm sorry. what's going on? somebody's not feeling good? all right. why don't we have -- we got -- we can get our doctors back there to help out. somebody want to go to my doctor's office and just have them -- all right. where was i? so we couldn't do it on the cheap. now, it may be -- >> can we get a doctor in here? can that be arranged? president obama: can somebody help out, please, and get doc jackson in here?
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somebody grabbing our doctor? >> thank you, mr. president. -- thank you, mr. president for stopping. president obama: of course. in the meantime, just give her a little room. doctor will be here in a second. you guys know where the doctor's
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office is? so just go through the palm doors. it's right next to the map room. there he is. all right. there's doc jackson. ok. the doctor's in the house. so -- and i don't mean that -- i mean that with all sincerity. i understand the impulse to want to do something, but ultimately what i've had to do was to think about, what can we sustain, what is realistic? and my first priority has to be, what's the right thing to do for america? and it has been our view that
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the best thing to do has been to provide some support to the moderate opposition so that they could sustain themselves and that you wouldn't see anti-assad regime sentiments just pouring into al-nusra and al qaeda or isil and we engage our partners in order to put pressure on all the parties involved and to try to resolve this through diplomatic and political means. i cannot claim that we have been successful, and so that's something that, as is true with a lot of issues and problems around the world, i have to go to bed with every night.
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but i continue to believe that it was the right approach given what realistically we could get done. absent a decision, as i said, to go into much more significant way, and that i think would not have been sustainable or good for the american people because we had a whole host of other obligations that we also had to meet, wars we had already started and that were not yet finished. with respect to the issue of safe zones, it is a continued problem, a continued challenge with safe zones. as if you are setting up those zones on syrian territory, then that requires some force that is willing to maintain that
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territory in the absence of consent from the syrian government and now the russians or the iranians. it may be that with aleppo's tragic situation unfolding that in the short term, if we can get more of the tens of thousands who are still trapped there out, that so long as the world's eyes are on them and they are feeling pressure, the regime and russia concludes that they are willing to find some arrangement, perhaps in coordination with turkey, whereby those people can be safe. even that will probably be temporary, but at least it solves a short-term issue that's going to arise. unfortunately, we are not even
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there yet because right now, we have russians and assad claiming that basically all the innocent civilians who were trapped in aleppo are out when international organizations, humanitarian organizations who know better and who are on the ground said unequivocally there are hundreds of thousands who are trapped and are prepared to leave under any conditions. right now our biggest priority is to put pressure wherever we can to try to get them out. ok. >> notwithstanding -- >> mike, i can't have too much -- >> responsibility notwithstanding -- to move in that direction and help president trump -- president obama: i will help president trump, with president-elect trump with advice, counsel, information that we can provide so that he, once he's sworn in, can make a decision.
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between now and then, these are decisions that i have to make based on the consultations that i have with our military and the people who have been working this every single day. peter alexander. peter: mr. president, thank you very much. can you, given all the intelligence we have now heard, assure the public this was once and for all a free and fair election? and specifically on russia, do you feel any obligation now as they have been insisting that this isn't the case, to show the proof that it was, put your money where your mouth is and declassify some of the intelligence, some of the evidence that exists and as it relates to donald trump on this very topic, are you concerned about his relationship with vladimir putin, especially given some of the recent cabinet picks, including his selection for secretary of state, rex tillerson, who toasted putin with champagne over oil deals? president obama: i may be getting older because the
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multipart questions, i start losing track. [laughter] i can assure the public there was not the kind of tampering with the voting process that was of concern and will continue to be of concern going forward that the votes that were cast were counted, they were counted appropriately. we have not seen evidence of machines being tampered with, so that assurance i can provide. that doesn't mean that we find every single, you know, potential probe of every single voting machine all across the country, but we paid a lot of attention to it. we worked with state officials, etc., and we feel confident that
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that didn't occur and that the votes were cast and they were counted. so that's on that point. what was the second one? declassification. look, we will provide evidence that we can safely provide that does not compromise sources and methods, but i'll be honest with you, when you are talking about cyber-security, a lot of it has been classified and we are not going to disclose it because the way we catch folks is by knowing certain things about them that they may not want us to know and we are going to monitor this
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stuff going forward, we don't want them to know that we know. so, this is one of those situations where, unless the american people genuinely think that the professionals in the cia, the fbi, our entire intelligence infrastructure, many of whom by the way served in previous administrations and who are republicans, are less trustworthy than the russians, then people should pay attention to what our intelligence agencies say. this is part of what i meant when i said that we have got to think about what is happening to our political culture here.
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the russians can't change us or significantly weaken us. they are a smaller country, they are a weaker country, their economy doesn't produce anything that anyone wants to buy except oil and gas and arms. they don't innovate. but they can impact us if we lose track of who we are. they can impact us if we abandon our values. mr. putin can weaken us, just like he is trying to weaken europe, if we start buying into notions that it is ok to intimidate the press or lock up dissidents, or discriminate against people because of their
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faith or what they look like. and what i worry about more than anything is the degree to which, because of the fierceness of the partisan battle, you have started to see certain folks in the republican party and republican voters suddenly finding a government and individuals who stand contrary to everything we stand for, as being ok because that's how much we dislike democrats. i mean, think about it. some of the people who have historically been very critical of me for engaging with russians -- the russians and having
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conversations with them also endorsed the president-elect, even as he was saying that we should stop sanctioning russia and being tough on them and work together with them. against our common enemies. and was very continent tree of -- complementary of mr. putin personally. that wasn't news. the president-elect, during the campaign, said so. and some folks who had made a career out of being anti-russian didn't say anything about it. and then after the elections, suddenly they are asking, why didn't you tell us that maybe the russians were trying to help our candidate? come on. there was a survey some of you
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saw where -- now this is just one poll but a pretty credible source. 37% of republican voters approve of putin. over one third of republican voters approve of vladimir putin, the former head of the kgb. ronald reagan would roll over in his grave. and how did that happen? it happened, in part, because for too long, everything that happened in this town, everything that is said is seen through this, does this help us or hurt us relative to democrats it --ative to present
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president obama? and unless that changes, we are going to continue to be vulnerable to foreign influence because we have lost track of what it is we are about and what we stand for. with respect to the president-elect's appointments, it is his prerogative, as i have always said, to appoint who he thinks can best carry out his foreign-policy or his domestic policy, it is up to the senate to advise and consent. there will be plenty of time for members of the senate to go through the record of all his appointees and determine whether or not they are appropriate for the job. reporter: mr. president, i want to talk about vladimir putin again.
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just to be clear, do you believe vladimir putin himself authorized this hack and he authorized that to help donald trump? and on the intelligence, one of the thing donald trump sites is -- cites is saddam hussein and the weapons of mass destruction, that they were never found. can you say unequivocally that this was not china, that this was not a 400 pound guy sitting on his bed as donald trump says, and do these types of statements -- tweets and statements from donald trump in bolden -- embolden russia? president obama: when the report comes out before i leave office, that will have drawn together all of the threats. and so i don't want to step on their work ahead of time. what i can tell you is with the
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intelligence i have seen, gives me great confidence in their assessment that the russians carried out this hack. the hack of the dnc and the hack of john podesta. now, the -- but again, i think this is why i want to report out so everyone can review it. ,and this has been briefed and the evidence in closed session, has been provided on a bipartisan basis not just to me, , it has been provided to the leaders of the house and senate and the chairman and linking -- ranking members of the relative committees. and what you have already seen is some of the folks who have seen the evidence don't dispute the basic assessment that the russians carried this out. >> but -- >> well, martha, i think what i
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want to make sure of is, i give the intelligence community the chance to gather all the information. but i make a larger point, which is -- not much happens in russia without vladimir putin. this is a pretty hierarchical operation. last i checked, there is not a lot of debate and democratic deliberation, particularly when it comes to policies directed at the united states. we have said, and i will confirm, that this happened at the highest levels of the russian government and i will let you make that determination as to whether their high level -- there are high level russian officials who go off rogue and
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decide to tamper with the u.s. elections without vladimir putin knowing about it. >> so i wouldn't be wrong in saying the president thinks vladimir putin partook in the russian hack? president obama: i said what i am going to say. your second question? reporter: do tweets and statements by donald trump in -- embolden russia? president obama: i think the president-elect is still in transition mode from campaign to governance. he hasn't gotten his whole team together yet, he still has campaign spokespersons sort of filling in and appearing on cable shows, there is just a whole different attitude and not in power are as when you are in power. rather than me characterizing the appropriate or inappropriateness of what he is
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doing at the moment, i think what we have to see is how will the president-elect operate and how will his team operate when they have been fully briefed on all of these issues, they have their hands on all the levers of government and they have to start making decisions. one way i do believe that the president-elect can approach this that would be unifying is to say that we welcome a bipartisan, independent process that gives the american people an assurance -- that not only votes are counted properly, the elections are fair and free but we have learned
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, lessons about how internet propaganda from foreign countries can be released into the political bloodstream and we have got strategies to deal with it for the future. the more this can be nonpartisan, the better served the american people are going to be. which is why i made the point earlier, and i am going to keep repeating this point, our vulnerability to russia or any other foreign power is directly related to how divided, partisan, dysfunctional our political process is. that's the thing that makes us vulnerable. if fake news that is being released by some foreign
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government is almost identical to reports that are being issued through partisan news venues, then it's not surprising that foreign propaganda will have a greater effect. because it doesn't seem that far-fetched compared to some of the other stuff folks are hearing from domestic propagandists. to the extent that our political dialogue is such where everything is under suspicion, everyone is corrupt, and everyone is doing things for partisan reasons and all of our institutions are full of malevolent actors.
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if that's the storyline that is being put out there by whatever party is out of power, then when a foreign government introduces that same argument with facts that are made up, voters who have been listening to that stuff for years, who have been getting that stuff every day from talk radio or other venues, they are going to believe it. so, if we want to really reduce foreign influence on our elections, then we had better think about how to make sure that our political process, our political dialogue is stronger than it has been.
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mark? reporter: thank you, mr. president. i wonder if i can move you from russia to china for a moment. president obama: absolutely. reporter: the president-elect spoke with the president of taiwan over the phone briefly and declared he wasn't sure why the united states needed to be bound by the one china policy. he suggested it to be used as a bargaining chip for more cooperation with china or north korea. just today, the chinese have evidently seized and underwater drone in the south china sea. do you agree our china policy could use a fresh set of eyes and what is the big deal about having a short phone call with the president of taiwan? or do you worry that these kinds of unorthodox approaches are setting us on a collision course
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with our greatest political adversary? -- geopolitical adversary? president obama: i am somewhere in between. i think all of our foreign policy should be subject to fresh eyes. i have said this before. i am very proud of the work i have done and i am a better president now than when i started, but if you are here for eight years in the bubble, you start seeing things a certain way and you benefit from the -- democracy benefits, america benefits from new perspectives. and i think it should be, not just the prerogative, but the obligation of a new president to has beenverything that done and what doesn't. that is what i'd did when i came in and am assuming any new president would undertake the
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same exercise. given how much is it at stake in terms of the world economy, national security, our presence in the asian pacific, china's china's increasing role in international affairs, there's probably no bilateral relationship that carries more significance and where there's also the potential if that relationship breaks down or goes into full conflict mode that everybody is worse off. i think it's fine for him to take a look at it. what i have advised the president-elect is that across the board on foreign policy, you want to make sure that you're


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