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tv   Electoral College Meets to Vote for President of the United States  CSPAN  December 19, 2016 8:00pm-8:19pm EST

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today members of the electoral college cast ballots confirming their victory for president-elect donald trump. tonight we look at the vote from pennsylvania, illinois, new york and michigan. first we hear from a reporter on the process. a 2016 campaign that began more than two years ago today moved to its final stages as electors met in state capitals around the country. 538 electors meeting in 50 states and here in washington d.c. to give donald trump a 270 plus votes that he needs to become the 45th president. to be sworn in on jan 20th. let's look at the popular results. donald trump, republican states in red. hillary clinton, democratic states in blue.
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and tree key states. pennsylvania, michigan and wisconsin. according to the founder and the u.s. constitution, the electorates slal meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for president and vice president, one of whom should not be an inhabitat. they should name the person voted for as president. and the person voted for as vice president. and should list the persons voted for as president and all persons voted for as vice-president and a number of votes for each. and they shall sign and certify by the government of the united states and directed by the senate. taking place in early january. joining us from the newsroom. politico steven shepherd. thank you for being was. >> good to be here, steve. >> put this into context. it's required by the constitution, we saw the process
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unfold in many state capitals. some predicted surprises. were there any? >> not really. donald trump won 306 electoral votes in that map that you just showed. and you mentioned michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin. the thought was if they could get 37 of donald trump's 306 electors to vote for somebody else other than trump. that would deny him the majority of the electors, and it could go to the house of representatives, despite a furious campaign to do that. we accident see that. you mentioned pennsylvania, wisconsin, all the electors in the state voting for donald trump, we saw a few democratic electors. some of them it was an effort to join with potential republican defectors. in washington, colin powell got three votes. not because they wanted colin powell to be president. they were hoping to deny donald trump, and an elector voted for
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another candidate because they didn't want to go for hillary clinton. this is more than we sa seen. you have to go back to 2004 to find another that didn't vote for the candidate. it's not a widespread kind of defection that would have threatened trump's chances to be the next president. >> and yet we saw the effort by the hamilton electors, we saw chris in texas, one of the faceless electors, a republican that you pointed out is key, keating a lot of attention, too much media attention basted on what happened today? >> i don't know if it's too much media attention, i think it draws attention to the system by which we elect the president in the united states. the electoral college, when it began, in some states the electors fulfilled the will of the peep or the people allowed to vote at that time. and some say the people didn't have - there was no popular vote and the college chose who they wanted. in this case we have a system
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where it's 51 vividual state elections in the district state of columbia, it sheds light on the process. that said, look, obviously this was - if you read the coverage and thought it was in doubt. maybe it got too much coverage. by and large it wasn't in doubt. it shed light on quirks of the system. >> as you watched what was happening and we were live in new york, michigan, pennsylvania, and illinois, there was a majesty and simplicity to the process, putting the paper ballots. in each state, that's what it looked like. >> the pageantry is the word i'd use to describe it. we'll see the same thing in jan 6th. when a joint session of congression convenience to count the votes, it's not the last step in the process, the last step in the rose is to send the votes to washington and have them examined and counted before a joint session of the new
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congress in early january. vice president joe biden will preside over that session. there's more pageantry to come. this is how we do things every four years. the reality of the election, first, one that got more attention than any election, and more closely followed than other elections in the past. the other thing is the historic nature of it. the candidate who losses the popular vote by a wide margin, but wins the electoral college by a wide margin as well. where we have the unique situation, and i think that has drown more attention on this process. >> i'll come back to today's development. but at politico.com you got a story about the transition or hollywood period, based on the point you made, which is that the nation and we hear it in the calls on c-span, the nation is divided. very divided. donald trump, in his best polls,
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his percentage of americans that view him favourably are the same as few him unfavourably, he had the benefit of the doubt from a lot of democrats. donald trump does not have that this year, creating a tricky situation. all levels of government in d.c. controlled. especially once a supreme court justice joins the court. look at public opinion over the first 100 days over the first six months, a lot get a honeymoon period. >> donald trump doesn't go in with that. how far is he able to push the envelope given that he encounters resistance. the debate from election night
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until monday in december, as you mount. it's been a fantasy. there's no way to see the revolt. >> we posed the question. over the weekend. didn't find a large appetite to oversurgeon the results. that said, you talk about shedding light. americans think we saw lect the president according to the vote. it's difficult to amend the constitution, we have seen a movement in a number of states over the past couple of decades. to get them to join with other states, vote by way of the popular vote. and if an upstate does that, they can rig the electoral college. it will be interesting in the years to come, how many
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states join that effort. if we see a popular movement. >> earlier we talked about it. it's available on the website. what would it take, and the historical perspective on why it was put in play. i want the reaction on albany new york, a former president casting the vote for his wife. who won new york, but lost the vote. here is a seen soed. we are honoured to be at the proceeding, involved citizens from across the state and a special new yorker that we call
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friends. it's my honour. [ clapping ] they having carried motions at the ballot. when the president and united states president begins, we may proceed to voting. i invite president clinton to join us in casting the first
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ballot. [ clapping ] >> and just one of the moments in new york as bill clinton, former president casting the ballot for hillary clinton and
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senator tim kaine, two separate boxes, and that scene was reported in state capitals around the county, a box for hillary clinton and donald trump and a box for senator tim kaine or mike pence. a story posted today some democrats criticizing hillary clinton for not embracing an effort to stop donald trump on this day. >> some of the - you mentioned the hamilton electors who wanted to try. by choosing another candidate palatable, trying to overturn the electoral college and results. they were looking for a signal from the clinton campaign that this was an acceptable and desired outcome. we didn't see that. that's why you saw a handful of democratic electors. that's why i mentioned the three votes that colin powell got in the united states. i think there was a clear effort starting with hillary clinton's
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contested speech, a day after the elections, an effort to move on publicly and not mount a serious change. they only tangentially joined a recount pushed for in the three states mentioned. michigan, pennsylvania and wisconsin. we have seen a couple of statements. you hear them when hillary clinton and bill talk privately. they talk about the letter from the federal bureau of investigation, james kony, how they thing that turned the election, and there is a bit of bitterness and regret. publicly, as far as the public stance we have not seen anything that jeopardizes this result. >> and the other argument that we heard from those trying to block the electoral college vote for donald trump, the russian hacking, what happened with the d.n.c. wiki leaks, and that russia interfered. we sense there'll be a
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congressional hearing. but that seemed to fall on deaf ears leading up to the vote. >> a number of electors partitioned to get an intelligence briefing, access the classified information that obviously their status - just as electors, they don't have security clearances and don't have access to the information. so they can see it before casting their vote. they were democratic electors, they were not people who were ready to vote for donald trump in the electoral college. the chairman called for the briefing. intelligence officials declined to do that. while it is a source of concern for a lot of people. a lot of americans at home. it was not something that the trump electorses as we could see by the vote. 306 republican electors today.
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it wasn't something they considered on the whole. a day for opportunities to understand the process, and you have been following the story. doing the survey. what questions have you been asking or others been asking you about the electoral college process. the one thing that all reporters heard in conversations with friends and family, and notes from readers, is is there any - you heard it a lot. some people on both sides, is there any chance. people that want the electoral college. who want them to overturn the election. people who didn't. if there was a chance this could happen. you mentioned the civics lesson. it happens. by and large we don't pay a lot of attention when the result is not in doubt orembroiled in
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controversy. it's important for americans to under the systems by which we elect the president. if they are unhappy. they can fight to change it. there's a lot of voters that go to the polls where the election is suspended. you may not have a presidential campaign in your states, it's important to be cognitive. sooner or later. probably sooner. we'll talk about the next presidential election and americans will focus on that closely. in final questions, your colleague who we talked to wrote a piece - who are the electors, as we see in the coverage today, they are all citizens. very few public officials. every state has a different layer of choosing who the electors are. some are chosen by the state party. some of them - this is a system
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that buries so much state by state. kyle did a great job over the past few months digging into who these people are. some in washington state had bernie sanders supporters are among those that didn't vote for hillary clinton, obviously that was not decisive. this much is something people can do. you can try to sign up at home. it's not only for the politically well connected. >> steven shepherd, joining us from the political newsroom. thank you for putting the events into perspective. we appreciate it. >> my pleasure. >> our campaign coverage in the electoral college vote is available on our website at
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cspan.org here is the scone from the texas capital in austin, where electors put donald trump over the 220 vote to win the presidenties, 36, 1 and 1 for trump, on poll with john kassig. >> ladies an gentlemen, let's call that to order. our votes for president have been tallied, we have for president donald trump 36 votes. for ron paul 1 vote and for john kassig 1 vote. by the way texas now puts donald trump over the top.
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[ cheering and applause ] >> congratulations texas electors. >> now, pennsylvania electors cast their vote for president and vice president at the state capital. donald trump and mike pence received 20 electoral college votes. pedro cortis and governor wolf spoke at the proceedings, this is an hour and 10

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